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Daughter of Time
15th January 2017, 19:08
Hello kindred spirits,
I am a member of Facebook. Every person who works in the arts pretty much has to have a Facebook page. My colleagues communicate via Facebook. There's no getting away from it for someone in my position.
I have been receiving PMs on Facebook asking me (demanding of me) to do something which absolutely disagrees with me.
On the eve of January 20 or early morning of January 20, it has been requested that I replace my profile picture with one of the following:
- a photo of Obama and family saying "thank you for being the best president and the best first family ever!
or
- a photo of Trump saying "not my president!"
I have, so far, ignored these messages which are insidiously going to people's private messenger boxes and not on the wall for others to see so that it will be a surprise and I've been asked to commit to doing this, which I've also ignored.
This is a quiet conspiracy, a quiet attack, so that millions of people on Facebook will change their profile photos to send this message to Obama and/or to Trump.
I will not comply!!!
While I am not a hypocrite by nature, I feel I must not express my true opinion to these people as they are 99% pro Hillary (still!!!) and 99% anti-Trump! And while none of them holds any power over me, some of them could, potentially, prevent work from coming to me.
I can simply ignore everything but after the 20th, i will most likely receive messages asking me why I refused to comply. What will I say?
While these people are not evil, they are extremely ignorant. They follow MSM. They believe all the lies that are fed to them. And while they think they are highly intelligent (creative) they are completely asleep! I feel like a complete outsider but cannot sever ties due to my profession. They can also be very vengeful if someone turns against them!
One option would be to stay signed out of Facebook and ignore all messages and find an excuse when the time comes to justify my (in)action.
What would you do if you were me?
Advises appreciated!
Thank you!
Daughter of Time
Spellbound
15th January 2017, 19:17
Facebook is the devil, imo. I've never been on it, nor will I ever.
Dave - Toronto
DeDukshyn
15th January 2017, 19:31
Ignore it. it will go away. I assume these people are your "friends" due to you business or something similar? If anyone asks why you don't support this approach say that "simply being a puppet of another's intentions is no strategy to make things better on planet earth". When people try to pressure me with their political alignments I simply say with an audible laugh "you aren't still falling for that left / right wing smoke and mirrors thing are you?" -- that almost always shuts them up. :)
Omni
15th January 2017, 19:39
What is wrong with these people, you can't just say you disagree with the images?
Hervé
15th January 2017, 19:41
Well, since you are an artist you can invoke freedom of expression at expressing ... nothing! ... once the wave of group-think has come and gone.
Daughter of Time
15th January 2017, 19:43
What is wrong with these people, you can't just say you disagree with the images?
Unawake and unaware people who work in the arts believe that a left wing government is always better than a right wing one. And while this has been true in Canada because the arts receive more funding from a Liberal government than from a Conservative one, when it comes to America, there are greater things at stake!
What is wrong with these people is that they are ignorant! Highly educated ignorant people!
Hervé
15th January 2017, 20:02
...
Highly educated ignorant people!:clapping:
Now, that's a real sad state of affairs :facepalm:
enfoldedblue
15th January 2017, 20:05
If it were me I would just say "Sorry I use facebook to promote my work, not my politics"
Eram
15th January 2017, 20:13
I can simply ignore everything but after the 20th, i will most likely receive messages asking me why I refused to comply. What will I say?
Since this is some sort of extortion scheme, you are allowed to say (lie) almost anything to avoid being damaged by their wrath.
Say that you don't like to engage in politics for instance. Or whatever fits the bill.
Lying is just a tool that can be used to accomplish both good and evil.
It is just the Church who ingrained the "lying is a sin" into our subconscious over the centuries that makes us think that we must never lie.
These people have no right to put you into a position where you feel forced to make a choice between doing something that you don't feel like doing, or risking to damage you business.
Flash
15th January 2017, 20:15
If it were me I would just say "Sorry I use facebook to promote my work, not my politics"
and this one from Dedukshyn is good too "you aren't still falling for that left / right wing smoke and mirrors thing are you?" It puts the thinking back in their court.
Another one would be: I am a Canadian and therefore do not have much to do nor much impact on American politics.
or: My moto is love, I have friends on all sides, and want to respect and love everyone, understanding the different views.
or: I love you guys, how does it matter in the long run? on a one to one basis?
You are creative, you will find the best wording for any situation.
or
I can't stop loving even those who disagree with me. So i decided to post nothing that shows division, but instead go for unity in all situations.
mgray
15th January 2017, 20:17
Simply say I have no dog in this fight since I am Canadian.
NancyV
15th January 2017, 21:26
I can simply ignore everything but after the 20th, i will most likely receive messages asking me why I refused to comply. What will I say?
Since this is some sort of extortion scheme, you are allowed to say (lie) almost anything to avoid being damaged by their wrath.
Say that you don't like to engage in politics for instance. Or whatever fits the bill.
Lying is just a tool that can be used to accomplish both good and evil.
It is just the Church who ingrained the "lying is a sin" into our subconscious over the centuries that makes us think that we must never lie.
These people have no right to put you into a position where you feel forced to make a choice between doing something that you don't feel like doing, or risking to damage you business.
I totally agree with Eram. Figure out the lie they would most like to hear and tell it to them. Lying is NOT evil or a "sin" when circumstances warrant that you use a lie as a tool or tactic.
lilac
15th January 2017, 22:07
I thought about this for awhile, being Canadian, nice, and not a patron of fb.... not sure if this insert will work, but my favorite on the list is the knock, knock joke (scroll down). Even if you don't use one of these, it's a pretty good chuckle:bigsmile:
http://distractify.com/trending/2015/07/01/friendliest-canadians-of-all-time-ever-1197803110...http://distractify.com/trending/2015/07/01/friendliest-canadians-of-all-time-ever-1197803110
lilac
15th January 2017, 22:20
I googled "Canadians are nice" and found plenty of grist for the mill. It is not to say that this huge, divisive horror show has not affected me, my community, my home and family - it has! But I have also spent time pondering WhiteLove's post about an "esoteric discovery" involving unconditional love. It's a wonderful thread and I agree that unconditional love is Truth. Daughter of Time - this issue that you are dealing with is a challenge. I hope you will find a way to stand in your Truth. Sometimes what is called for, is humor.
Gillian
15th January 2017, 22:23
White light the problem, then ignore it, and even though it might harm your business, be prepared to withdraw from Facebook if it comes to that. Makes you something of a hero; like those people who sacrifice their careers to do the right thing.
If it helps, I am presently unemployed (although I would dearly like/need the income) because I will no longer be in slavery to a ruthless unethical money-lusting employer. I am watching help wanted ads for an (almost) ethical employment situation which I will apply for. Unfortunately, I have yet to see one of these businesses that is looking to hire.
Ewan
15th January 2017, 23:09
What is wrong with these people, you can't just say you disagree with the images?
Unawake and unaware people who work in the arts believe that a left wing government is always better than a right wing one. And while this has been true in Canada because the arts receive more funding from a Liberal government than from a Conservative one, when it comes to America, there are greater things at stake!
What is wrong with these people is that they are ignorant! Highly educated ignorant people!
There's your answer right there. "I'm Canadian." (Not that you need to respond to them at all.)
bluestflame
15th January 2017, 23:11
be strong , be you , it's blatant emotional manipulation
Bill Ryan
15th January 2017, 23:12
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If I understand this situation correctly, it's just intimidating spam. (Can you report it?)
If I received stuff like that, it'd immediately be added to my long lost of things simply to ignore. :)
Daughter of Time
15th January 2017, 23:14
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If I understand this situation correctly, it's just intimidating spam. (Can you report it?)
If I received stuff like that, it'd immediately be added to my long lost of things simply to ignore. :)
No, it's not spam! It's from colleagues who think they know what they're doing and who think I'm on the same page as they are.
I don't communicate anything personal on Facebook so my artist "friends" assume i have the same political views they have.
Charles Harris
15th January 2017, 23:16
You could use this opportunity to say something truly relevant. You are an artist after all.:silent:
Daughter of Time
15th January 2017, 23:19
You could use this opportunity to say something truly relevant. You are an artist after all.:silent:
That would require very careful thinking as i don't wish to make enemies.
I'm an artist, but so are they, and artists are usually very political but sometimes misguided, as these are!
Working in the arts makes for a precarious living to begin with. Making enemies is professional suicide.
bluestflame
15th January 2017, 23:19
in the face of division , promote unity
in such a way they'd be tripping themselves up if they opposed it
close the loopholes
cos i've noticed you can't correct imbalance with another imbalance , the pendulum only has to swing one complete cycle to show us where the balance is
opposing views only keep the pendulum swinging
meet me in the middle
Bill Ryan
15th January 2017, 23:20
.
If I understand this situation correctly, it's just intimidating spam. (Can you report it?)
If I received stuff like that, it'd immediately be added to my long lost of things simply to ignore. :)
No, it's not spam! It's from colleagues who think they know what they're doing and who think I'm on the same page as they are.
I don't communicate anything personal on Facebook so my artist "friends" assume i have the same political views as they have.
Well, it's spam if you don't know who it's coming from — even though you know the group of colleagues you believe are responsible.
If you do know the person it's from, then dialog with them. (Of course Trump isn't your President. You're not an American. :) )
The very fact this is being scatter-blasted at lots of people (including Canadians!) means it's hit-or-miss spam. That's the definition. Unwanted, unrequested messages being sent to a LOT of people in the hope that someone will bite on the hook. And that should be illegal on Facebook, for sure. (If anyone did that kind of thing here, they'd be unsubscribed as soon as it was reported.)
Daughter of Time
15th January 2017, 23:23
.
If I understand this situation correctly, it's just intimidating spam. (Can you report it?)
If I received stuff like that, it'd immediately be added to my long lost of things simply to ignore. :)
No, it's not spam! It's from colleagues who think they know what they're doing and who think I'm on the same page as they are.
I don't communicate anything personal on Facebook so my artist "friends" assume i have the same political views as they have.
Well, it's spam if you don't know who it's coming from — even though you know the group of colleagues you believe are responsible.
If you do know the person it's from, then dialog with them. (Of course Trump isn't your President. You're not an American. :) )
The very fact this is being scatter-blasted at lots of people (including Canadians!) means it's hit-or-miss spam. That's the definition. Unwanted, unrequested messages being sent to a LOT of people in the hope that someone will bite on the hook. And that should be illegal on Facebook, for sure. (If anyone did that kind of thing here, they'd be unsubscribed as soon as it was reported.)
I do know every single person who has sent it to me. I don't know how it originated but these are people i personally know and have worked with. Not spam! That's why it's concerning me.
Anyhow, I think I will just ignore everything and stay signed out of Facebook until this passes. It might be the wisest thing.
Daughter of Time
15th January 2017, 23:55
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this, so i must.
The title of this thread now has an appendage (intimidation on Facebook) which is not the title I gave the thread.
Facebook did not send me this invitation (intimidation) to post a message in favor of Obama or against Trump. These invitations came from people I know who are politically misguided and unaware of anything other than what MSM feeds them. Yes, I'd like to shake them up! But I need my energy for my own survival and I don't know if I have enough to try to salvage those who are unsavageable.
While I am aware that Facebook is one of the greatest spies on the internet, perhaps second only to google, I must expound that there are groups on Facebook which are actually doing good things.
I don't mean to derail my own thread here, but I must mention that some good can come out of Facebook. There are a number of private groups that defend Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, where demonstrations have successfully been organized and executed. A number of petitions have been made available on these closed groups and the petitions have been filled. And while petitions don't usually solve any problems, they do exhibit support for the person. One of the Facebook groups that defends Julian Assange has over 13,000 members and growing. Nothing in those groups is censored. These closed groups have more nasty things to say about TPB than I've encountered on PA.
What I meant to say is that Facebook is not the culprit here. The messages came though Facebook but they are not from Facebook. The culprit is the brain washing of citizens by MSM.
Lifebringer
16th January 2017, 00:00
Don't do it. Heck Bernie was my choice and they cheated him so, America will this time reap what they've sown.
bettye198
16th January 2017, 00:04
There is a massive movement to undo what has been done from this election. I have not seen it on instagram but FB seems a target, and like others, I have never been a member of that.
If these are your colleagues and maybe more than just that, friends, I agree with the others, ignore. I have a sister who is VP of a global company and she cannot open her mouth about Trump because of the movement against him in wide circles. I have had patients who learned of our allegiance to Trump who have dropped out of our care. These were honest true blue very long term friends/patients for over 25 years. They had liberal family members on one side in San Francisco who whispered in their ear. I have had siblings who had friends dissociate with them. It was the most shocking unbelievable thing to happen. Many of us have gone thru many Presidential elections and speaking for myself, never encountered this kind of behavior. So yeah, this is a movement, well orchestrated to tear at your emotions and the very thread of your value system.
It IS a lesson in letting go.
Houman
16th January 2017, 00:07
DoT: Your mental energy is too precious to be wasted on the people sending you these kind of messages.
Since you asked, if I were you I would either (i) ignore the message or (ii) explain my position if I care about the person sending the message. Once this is done, no more energy should be wasted... I would also watch my thoughts and if they keep coming back to the messages I would ask myself why I am not at ease with just ignoring them... oftentimes the answer comes from giving too much importance to what other people think (in that situation you would be giving them a remote control with your emotions as buttons)... the best answer is then to accept that people are free to think whatever they want, not react if they become judgemental,
learn to quiet the mind, enjoy the moment, learn to be in a high/meditative state, and focus mental energy on things that make us grow...
bobme
16th January 2017, 00:17
Although I am not an Artist in the formal term of speaking, I see artistry in everyone. I have no answer for your personal predicament. I do not do face book, or text, or any of the things most do now days. You do facebook as a must do for your currant occupation. As many do now days. What is your career though? Artist of what? Is the problem tied to future income? We are all tied to the ball and chain of income somehow. Although I am not by any means considered succesful, by the systems definition of success, I am my own person of individuality. It is a hard road to be on, yet very rewarding. You will be you. And that will also be outstanding. All will be well in the end.
Dennis Leahy
16th January 2017, 00:18
You can't win in a game of emotional extortion with people that will remain in your circle (in this case, business circle.)
Your best option - in my opinion - is to continue to ignore them.
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If I understand this situation correctly, it's just intimidating spam. (Can you report it?)
If I received stuff like that, it'd immediately be added to my long lost of things simply to ignore. :)
No, it's not spam! It's from colleagues who think they know what they're doing and who think I'm on the same page as they are.
I don't communicate anything personal on Facebook so my artist "friends" assume i have the same political views as they have.
{edit, to add}:
You could send them to my faceboog page. :) No one is left wondering what I think of obummer, or killery, or sandy the sheepdog... or trump. Nor do those that have ignored obomber's mass murder spree get a pass - the same way g w bush and his followers didn't get a pass.
I cuss and scream and rake my fingers over the chalkboard and clank my tin cup on the prison bars over at faceboog - behavior unbecoming of an Avalon member, at Avalon. I consider Avalon to be intellectual, modified by emotion, but zuckerpunch's cia-funnel (a booger on the face of humanity, which is why I call it "faceboog") is mostly emotion, tempered by emotion, flamed by emotion. To me, faceboog is more like a barroom brawl than a cocktail party in a gentleman's livingroom. If you want something intellectual at fb, then there are fb "groups."
If I was afraid to post at faceboog, or to even have an account there, then I would be afraid to connect my computer to the Internet and type anything at all. Since every keystroke is collected by the NSA, why do I care if it is collected here, or on fb, or on any other site? In fact, I want human beings from the NSA to read what I write. Sometimes I write directly to them.
Due to the fb algorithm that only shows your post to 10% to 15% of the people on your 'friends' list, plus 'followers', and the fact that is is a classic "bulletin board" where content goes down the list, off the page, and into a black hole, faceboog is a terrible venue for having conversations. It is better suited to meme posters, and drive-by prose "slams."
I should say, don't go to my fb page if you are even mildly bothered by cussing - I rarely post without adding expletives, because I am posting emotional content for an emotional crowd.
Helene West
16th January 2017, 02:02
Hi Daughter
Any so-called 'neutral' political response, or seemingly non-committal response may likely be seen as leaning towards Trump. You could start getting a funny vibe there in the office.
I would use something like claiming a computer problem prevented you from changing gifs or whatever, like you opened an attachment and now you keep getting ads popping up or, something i use - play stupid! Oh my God, how stupid am I! did u say the 20th!? I thought it was the 19th or 3p.m., or 12 p.m.,..." or something like that.
I'm sickened by this... all these malicious bullying antics say to me - what will next election be like? I think it will actually be worse than this one, these creeps will work themselves into a lather in the next 4 years they will be like bats out of hell...
CurEus
16th January 2017, 04:35
34812
I am using this as my profile picture and I'll use something similar for my cover photo.
CurEus
16th January 2017, 04:36
I'd prefer to use this picture but.......some people are VERY sensitive :)
34814
betoobig
16th January 2017, 10:13
HArd situation, here is what i would do, if i were you.. with the data you gave us, and the Little i know you...
1-do not lie
that´s it. so you dont support niether Obama nor trhump, so dont put the picture of Obama saying you support him, put the Trhump photo saying you dont support him. You wont be lieying and you finish this thing up. DOnt give those people a chance to f*** you. Not a chance to wont be able to put your work out.
Do you support trhump, no you dont, so just do it and move forward.
i love you
Juan
Ernie Nemeth
16th January 2017, 12:35
I agree, ignore.
Of course, if it was me I'd ream them a new one for being so ignorant, and misguidedly insistent. Then never talk to them again. And I'd not care about what that does to my life or lifestyle.
I will not budge from my stance and I will not hide or ignore or conform! Either I get my way and win the good fight or to hell with the entire world. Nothing else matters - not my comfort or even my life.
I'm living proof of that. So far...
DNA
16th January 2017, 13:28
Here is a decent picture. :)
https://grrrgraphics.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/big_club_print-web.jpg?w=640&h=458
Mark (Star Mariner)
16th January 2017, 13:58
Hi Daughter of Time, there's another possibility not yet mentioned I think.. Is it at all possible that some of these colleagues of yours were also 'intimidated', and changed their pictures because they feared what would happen if they didn't, just as you are fearing now? In which case you might not be alone in this.
Rather than not log into facebook (this could go on for a long while), and rather than blindly conform as they have, hit back - take a stand, and say what you really feel. You never know, many of your colleagues might feel the same way as you about Trump/Hillary, but chose not to take a stand.
(disclaimer: I might be completely wrong of course, and they really are all brainwashed, but it's just something to consider :)).
A Voice from the Mountains
16th January 2017, 16:48
Hello kindred spirits,
I am a member of Facebook. Every person who works in the arts pretty much has to have a Facebook page. My colleagues communicate via Facebook. There's no getting away from it for someone in my position.
I have been receiving PMs on Facebook asking me (demanding of me) to do something which absolutely disagrees with me.
On the eve of January 20 or early morning of January 20, it has been requested that I replace my profile picture with one of the following:
- a photo of Obama and family saying "thank you for being the best president and the best first family ever!
or
- a photo of Trump saying "not my president!"
I have, so far, ignored these messages which are insidiously going to people's private messenger boxes and not on the wall for others to see so that it will be a surprise and I've been asked to commit to doing this, which I've also ignored.
This is a quiet conspiracy, a quiet attack, so that millions of people on Facebook will change their profile photos to send this message to Obama and/or to Trump.
I will not comply!!!
While I am not a hypocrite by nature, I feel I must not express my true opinion to these people as they are 99% pro Hillary (still!!!) and 99% anti-Trump! And while none of them holds any power over me, some of them could, potentially, prevent work from coming to me.
These people are bullies and idiots. If they want to destroy all of their relationships over their own stupidity then I say allow them to do it, because history is not going to be on their side and they are going to look like fools in the end.
When people learn the truth of what the Clinton Foundation and its partners have been doing, they will all be shoving their foots straight in their mouths, because we've already had 16 years of true encroaching fascism and most people were too ignorant to even realize it. Trump had the entire machine thrown against him and he broke it. It's over for their communist vision of world government.
They may still feel like they have the power to bully people into submission to their political views, but they're going to realize soon enough that they are only exposing themselves for the children that they are.
If people lose jobs or relationships they should forge new ones with people who are genuinely compassionate, motivated, pro-business and optimistic for the future. These are the people who are going to best move forward in the coming years, and will take their friends and family with them.
sheme
16th January 2017, 19:51
Publish their request- Tell your truth.
Ewan
16th January 2017, 20:36
Having read through the thread again today I think...
This (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95462-Request-for-advice&p=1127642&viewfull=1#post1127642)
...is the best solution.
in the face of division , promote unity
in such a way they'd be tripping themselves up if they opposed it
close the loopholes
cos i've noticed you can't correct imbalance with another imbalance , the pendulum only has to swing one complete cycle to show us where the balance is
opposing views only keep the pendulum swinging
meet me in the middle
scanner
16th January 2017, 22:02
Correct me if I'm wrong ,but you must have been hacked or had a problem with your system of late . You may have lost control of your FB page until after the 20th . May be an option for you :bigsmile: A holiday perhaps , away from all the techy stuff , you need a brake :rolleyes:
Daughter of Time
16th January 2017, 22:16
Correct me if I'm wrong ,but you must have been hacked or had a problem with your system of late . You may have lost control of your FB page until after the 20th . May be an option for you :bigsmile: A holiday perhaps , away from all the techy stuff , you need a brake :rolleyes:
No, I have not been hacked. I have total control of my FB account. And I don't do much on FB except when I get messages from a "friend" who requests a reply from me. These requests came from people I know who want their political agenda advanced by getting others on their band wagon. And politics are very divisive which is why I have to be careful how i handle the situation.
When someone leaves a private message, that message goes directly to the person's personal e-mail account, otherwise someone who doesn't frequent FB but is a member would never know that they have a message. So one doesn't have to sign in into FB in order to get a message from an FB "friend". One does have to sign in in order to reply.
I have decided to simply ignore all these FB messages about changing my profile photo and do nothing at all unless confronted.
TigaHawk
16th January 2017, 23:58
What about a picture of a square box, inside both Trump & Obama Smiling. A bunch of cartoon figures around it pointing to it with speech bubbles containing gibberish but makes it obvious they're arguing over the two.
Surrounding that place images of real world issues that need addressing but are being ignored to favor the whining / arguing / distracting that's taking place by those two.
They get the picture of Obama / Trump. You make a point that it's irrelevant to you and that they should wake up and smell the reality.
happyuk
17th January 2017, 02:07
Does Zuckerberg or anyone else expect us to believe that this pro Obama bilge is benevolence or altruism? Seriously. We know he is trying to establish Faecesbook as an essential utility and make it a de facto service to which we are all bound. To hell with Facebook, not doing it. It's 99% puerile trash anyway, why compromise net neutrality for the sake of a pile of puerile trash? There are other ways for people to use the internet and the web to stay in touch without having to kiss the backside of a giant corporation and wade through piles of sewage.
turiya
17th January 2017, 05:33
Hello kindred spirits,
I am a member of Facebook. Every person who works in the arts pretty much has to have a Facebook page. My colleagues communicate via Facebook. There's no getting away from it for someone in my position.
I have been receiving PMs on Facebook asking me (demanding of me) to do something which absolutely disagrees with me.
On the eve of January 20 or early morning of January 20, it has been requested that I replace my profile picture with one of the following:
- a photo of Obama and family saying "thank you for being the best president and the best first family ever!
or
- a photo of Trump saying "not my president!"
I have, so far, ignored these messages which are insidiously going to people's private messenger boxes and not on the wall for others to see so that it will be a surprise and I've been asked to commit to doing this, which I've also ignored.
This is a quiet conspiracy, a quiet attack, so that millions of people on Facebook will change their profile photos to send this message to Obama and/or to Trump.
I will not comply!!!
While I am not a hypocrite by nature, I feel I must not express my true opinion to these people as they are 99% pro Hillary (still!!!) and 99% anti-Trump! And while none of them holds any power over me, some of them could, potentially, prevent work from coming to me.
I can simply ignore everything but after the 20th, i will most likely receive messages asking me why I refused to comply. What will I say?
While these people are not evil, they are extremely ignorant. They follow MSM. They believe all the lies that are fed to them. And while they think they are highly intelligent (creative) they are completely asleep! I feel like a complete outsider but cannot sever ties due to my profession. They can also be very vengeful if someone turns against them!
One option would be to stay signed out of Facebook and ignore all messages and find an excuse when the time comes to justify my (in)action.
What would you do if you were me?
Advises appreciated!
Thank you!
Daughter of Time
Hey DOT - I've come across something on Twitter that may have a connection to what you are describing... As of today this Twitter account has been going berserk due to Project Veritas video that was published today... tell me if there is a connection... This Lacy MacAuley (https://twitter.com/lacymacauley?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eser p%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) is one of the central figures involved with this...
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/656896608584339456/dWEavgTl.png
DisruptJ20 Twitter Account Link: https://twitter.com/hashtag/DisruptJ20?src=hash
There are several Anarchist groups out there with an agenda to create chaos on 20-January, Inauguration Day... in D.C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZSfhd1X_8
Daughter of Time
17th January 2017, 17:23
Hello turiya,
Thank you for your post.
I don't think these are related. I watched the video and it's truly appalling what these people are planning to do. I have to wonder whether they are simply deranged or whether they've been paid to create this gross disturbance.
What these people are planning is far worse than what some people on FB are planning since on FB it is just a virtual demonstration while the above could seriously damage a number of people. The FB attack is silent and can be avoided if one does not sign into FB on the 20th and for a couple of days afterwards.
Strangely, all the requests (demands) to change my profile picture for Obama or against Trump came the same day. I haven't had any requests since. Hopefully there will be no more.
We'll see what the 20th brings. It will undoubtedly go down in the history pages. I will stay away from FB in spite of any requests I may receive and will probably be on PA.
turiya
17th January 2017, 21:43
Hello turiya,
Thank you for your post.
I don't think these are related. I watched the video and it's truly appalling what these people are planning to do. I have to wonder whether they are simply deranged or whether they've been paid to create this gross disturbance.
What these people are planning is far worse than what some people on FB are planning since on FB it is just a virtual demonstration while the above could seriously damage a number of people. The FB attack is silent and can be avoided if one does not sign into FB on the 20th and for a couple of days afterwards.
Strangely, all the requests (demands) to change my profile picture for Obama or against Trump came the same day. I haven't had any requests since. Hopefully there will be no more.
We'll see what the 20th brings. It will undoubtedly go down in the history pages. I will stay away from FB in spite of any requests I may receive and will probably be on PA.
Thanks for getting back. And its good to hear that this was a different group.
I have to wonder whether they are simply deranged
or whether they've been paid to create this gross disturbance.
Yes, I'd say both is what it is... In fact, the Part II video was released today & there was talk about feeding some homeless people at a certain location as a way of rewarding them if they would participate in helping to block D.C. traffic.... I'm sure you've heard of the Hungarian billionaire who's known as George Soros - he's supposedly involved with paying the organizers of these various groups - though, its tough to nail him with evidence of that.
Well anyways, it seems you've found a good place to come to find some sane people to communicate with. Good work! Hope things continue to settle down for you. Life is meant to be enjoyed. So, have at it.
Best regards...
Daughter of Time
18th January 2017, 16:37
Just when I thought I could relax and just ignore the requests and demands for it shall soon pass, something happened and this is much worse!
Last night, just before signing out, I received another message on FB and this was an invitation to join the Canadians who will be going to Washington to protest Trump's inauguration! WTF?!?
What rights does a Canadian have to protest the inauguration of an American president? I ignored it but went to this person's FB page to read more. This is a colleague as well. It would seem that my colleagues are mostly idiots!
From what I've read on this person's wall, it seems groups of Canadians have been organized to go to Washington where they will join Americans in the demonstrations against Trump's inauguration and unless arrested, will pretend to be Americans themselves!
Instructions are given such as: Do not carry purses or bags or anything important that could be lost. Write important information like name, blood type, next of kin on one's arm with a sharpie, try to not engage in any conversations with anyone you don't know etc., information on where to meet and re-group if lost would be given by PM only. Since I chose to ignore the invitation then I don't have this information.
Most importantly, they state to be very careful whenever signs of violence begin to erupt because even though this is supposed to be a peaceful demonstration, they know there will be Republicans who will incite violence and make it look like it was all the Democrats who did it!
Are these people delusional? Insane? Or do they actually believe everything they're saying?
And the insanity continues...
DeDukshyn
18th January 2017, 16:57
I know what you mean .. if I get one more request to play Candy Crush from my friends that know I will never play that game ... I'm going to lose it!!!
I think your frustrations may be partly blamed on FB mass messaging system. Most people use the "spam" method to send/share invites (because that is Facebook's default, I believe), rather than carefully selecting the people that might be best fit. The "Spam" method sends them out to everyone on the friends list - and more often than not it is annoying as hell.
It really is safe to ignore these invites / shares ...
Jules
18th January 2017, 19:31
Well, you could go with the philosophy that my grandma went by. It is not polite to discuss religion or politics, nor to ask how much money that someone makes. Asking others to participate in political views on Facebook goes my against personal beliefs and etiquette. Since what I put on Facebook is out there forever, what if I change my mind about political opinions? What if Obama is convicted of treason, or Donald Trump is better than the others, or maybe not... Why do people have such dogmatic approaches to corrupt politicians anyway? Only extreme, rude people would resort to such madness.
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