View Full Version : A Nazi/UFO Base in the Argentine Sea
Mecklenburger
18th January 2017, 13:26
In 2011 under a pen name I authored a book entitled "The Secret Alliance" still in print with Sharkhunters International of Florida, the leading U-boat website and organization. The evidence I presented set out to prove the cooperation between Argentina and the Third Reich during the Second World War and subsequently.
After completing my postings here in "Parallel Civilizations" regarding the Neuschwabenland map I noted a remark made by Harry Cooper, President of Sharkhunters: "There are two possibilities: either there was a place at Neuschwabenland, or this is a cleverly crafted disinformation by the Germans and the Russians to make people think they went to Antarctica when they actually went to some other place in South American waters - I would love to prove this one way or the other."
The Chilean author Professor Waldemar Verdugo Fuertes wrote an article some years ago about his research into UFO's at Punta Arenas. He spoke with the family Villegas Gómez who lived there in the 1940's and with several fishing families. Gómez told Professor Fuertes that at the war's end many Aryans arrived in southern Chile and were given lodgings locally. Hundreds of German families came down. From the island of Madre de Dios near the icefield they were apparently collected by U-boat. German U-boats were common in the area in the Hitler period. Gómez thought that the destination was Antarctica and added that the first UFO's did not begin to be a common sight over the Punta Arenas region until 1946-1947.
In my opinion it would not have been possible to convey all these hundreds of German families through the sub-glacial tunnels below Neuschwabenland in voyages lasting up to a fortnight in midget U-boats able to carry two passengers: and with a Soviet base standing by watching it all.
For that reason I look back at my earlier research and find that as before I suspect what are called Inconstant Islands as the Nazi/UFO base or bases.
An Inconstant Island is an island or group of islands discovered by some naval expedition centuries earler, claimed by that country, visited and mapped which then vanished inexplicably only to reappear at the same coordinates at some much later time.
There are two such island groups in the South Atlantic.
(1) The three Aurora islands, now absent from charts for well over a century, lie halfway between the Falklands and South Georgia island. They were discovered in 1763 by the Spanish barque Aurora, and their presence confirmed in 1795 by the Spanish Navy's Malaspina Expedition. They were seen quite frequently between then and 1870 when they disappeared once more never to return.
(2) The inconstant Sanson Islands close to the Argentine coast have always interested me for reasons which I shall explain in my next posting.
Cardillac
18th January 2017, 21:13
add Antarctica to this concept (as so many have); we're provided with a different concept wilder than our 'stupidest' dreams;
British archeologist Graham Hancock believes Antarctica was previously Atlantis but was located 2500 miles more northward than it is now-
Larry
Sequoia
19th January 2017, 02:39
Wasn't the whole conflict in the Falkland Is in the 80's because of aliens? Instead of the official lies we were told.
Mecklenburger
19th January 2017, 13:29
Re: The Falklands 1982. I have lived 20 years in Argentina and I am pretty sure that the invasion of the Falklands was dictated by purely local political circumstances. The only probable intervention by a UFO of which I am aware during the campaign was the sinking of HMS Broadsword(? was it) when a UFO caused the escort frigate to adopt a protective position which exposed the escorted warship to attack by Argentine fighter bombers. Apart from that I am not too well up in British naval history.
POSTING TWO
The Sanson y Patos islands were discovered by Alonso de Santa Cruz, Spanish cosmographer to the Court of Spain, in 1536 and were also mapped by Magellan. (Islario general de todas las islas de mundo, 1541)
They could be seen from various points of what is now the Argentine coast at the southern edge of Golfo San Jorge and so their precise position was plotted by simple compass bearings:
SSE from Cabo Blanco (47º17'S)
ESE from Rio Deseado
ENE from entrance to San Julian (49º18'S)
A group of five islands was seen. The largest was estimated in size at 5 x 3 leagues (one Spanish league= 2.6 miles, therefore about 13 miles long x 8 miles across). Since these islands are not marked on charts from the second half of the 16th century it is assumed that they were inconstant Islands which disappeared. There are no other islands along that long stretch of coast.
In December 1683 the English privateer Captain William Ambrose Cowley commanding the 40-gun Batchelor's Delight arriving from Guinea, West Africa approached the coast of modern Argentina at 47º40'S where he sighted an uncharted and unpopulated large island which he named Pepys in honour of the secretary to the Duke of York.
"We were heading SW and at latitude 47ºS we saw land to the west," Cowley wrote. "This land until then unkown is an uninhabited island. It has an excellent harbour where certainly one thousand ships can anchor in safety. It has a considerable number of birds and the coast is probably rich in fish since the bottom is stone and sand. The violence of the wind was such that it was impossible to enter for fresh water. The island had a pleasant aspect: we saw woods, in fact one can say it was totally forested. On the SW coast was the harbour. Another island appeared during the next afternoon..."
It was high summer. The wind was so violent that the ship was unable to anchor near the island. Fierce winds and electrical storms are a feature of inconstant islands in the process of dematerializing or reappearing. A second island was reported on the second afternoon. This island was likely to have been one of the other four materializing.
Since Cowley had orders to proceed elsewhere he sailed on.
In 1764, no less than eighty years later, the British Admiralty decided to occupy the large island and sent Commodore John Byron to seize it. He was unable to find the island, nor was Captain Cook successful in either of his two voyages afterwards. The British therefore concluded that Cowley "must have confused them with the Falklands" (at 51ºS and which have no woods).
The concluding part follows.
Debra
19th January 2017, 14:54
The Sanson y Patos islands were discovered by Alonso de Santa Cruz, Spanish cosmographer to the Court of Spain, in 1536 and were also mapped by Magellan. (Islario general de todas las islas de mundo, 1541)
They could be seen from various points of what is now the Argentine coast at the southern edge of Golfo San Jorge and so their precise position was plotted by simple compass bearings:
SSE from Cabo Blanco (47º17'S)
ESE from Rio Deseado
ENE from entrance to San Julian (49º18'S)
A group of five islands was seen. The largest was estimated in size at 5 x 3 leagues (one Spanish league= 2.6 miles, therefore about 13 miles long x 8 miles across). Since these islands are not marked on charts from the second half of the 16th century it is assumed that they were inconstant Islands which disappeared. There are no other islands along that long stretch of coast
Very interesting material, thank you.
I was wondering if you have managed to view these co-ordinates through Google Earth?
Also, the reference to the materialisation and dematerialisation of the Inconstant Islands .. could you just clarify what you mean exactly by these terms?
Thanks again. Would certainly like to know what got you started on this investigation.
Cheers, Debra
Frenchy
19th January 2017, 19:39
Re: The Falklands 1982. I have lived 20 years in Argentina and I am pretty sure that the invasion of the Falklands was dictated by purely local political circumstances.
Hi 'M' ,
fwiw, Bases Project, infers both the Falklands and the Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig Explosion ; implicated " Sentient Fluid or 'Black Goo' ".
With The Mexico Gulf, incident, it is claimed that, it was like 'Rush-hour ' around the 'blow-out', with French, Russian et al, trying to obtain samples ?
With the Falklands, also inferred was an access Tunnel on --------- island... [apology forgot name ! ]
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79256-Black-Goo
exohuman | Mystery of the Sentient Black Goo
www.exohuman.com/wordpress/2015/11/black-gooCached
‘BLACK GOO’ is an intelligent nano-tech ‘sentient’ liquid rumoured to have been the real cause of the Falklands War & the reason behind the Deepwater Horizon ...
Mecklenburger
20th January 2017, 13:54
The most famous of all Inconstant Islands is "San Borondon", known since the time of Ptolemy and which appears from time to time (nowadays three or four days per century) about thirty kilometres west of La Gomera and La Palma in the Canaries. It has also been seen by ships approaching from the west and circumnavigated in recent times. Before his famous voyage, the diary of Columbus records that he attempted to raise funds to search for San Borondon.
Electrical storms with fierce winds always accompany these materializations. San Borondon has been visited but one must not be on the island when it dematerializes, for then there is no return.
When one looks at the official board of enquiry report regarding the disappearance of the five Avenger aircraft on a practice navigational flight from Fort Lauderdale in December 1945 it is clear that they unknowingly entered the same other world as San Borondon and were unable to find the way out.
POSTING THREE (Final)
In his book Informe sobre los visitantes extraterrestres y sus naves voladores (Buenos Aires 1974), the well-known Argentine UFO investigator Antonio Las Heras wrote (p.58):
"...we think that certain kinds of UFO use submarine bases as centres of coordination to disperse later: that dispersion would commence well south of Bahia Blanca (37ºS), this being why the abundance of sightings occur there.
"It is well known in Argentina that there are two routes used habitually by UFO's, the second being from the coastal area of Patagonia northwards up to the province of Buenos Aires and continuing north from there.
"We believe in the existence of extraterrestrial submarine bases in the Argentine Sea close to the shores of Patagonia. Sightings have been legion over the years in which the coastal populations of our territory, very sparse in that region we should add, have looked on fascinated as luminous objects effect curious manoeuvres and turns before submerging in the waters; on other occasions the phenomenon is reversed and the UFOs are seen to emerge, rise above the surface of the sea, change direction and take off at a variety of speeds on a heading northwards or perhaps NW.
"Based on the records compiled by SIFI (the author's monitoring organization 'Sociedad Investigadora de Fenómenos Insólitos') it would come as no surprise to us to discover that there are underwater UFO bases in the Gulf of San Matías (between 41º-43ºS) and San Jorge" (between 45º-48ºS, at the south end of which were once seen the Sanson Islands).
In February 1998, Professor Ronald Newton, a Canadian, was hired by the Argentine Goverment in Project CEANA to report on: "Actividades clandestinas de la Marina Alemana en aguas argentinas 1930-1945 (Clandestine activities of the German Navy in Argentine waters 1930-1945).
With regard to the subject under discussion he wrote: "In May 1941 an informant told the US Embassy in Santiago de Chile that there were two U-boat bases in Patagonia. According to this "habitually reliable source" one of these bases was on the "Golfo Nuevo/San Matías coast" and the other along Santa Cruz province about five miles north of the mouth of the river Deseado, an area of numerous caves.
Deseado is one of the three points from where the Spaniards could see the Sanson Islands in 1539, and five miles north is Cabo Blanco, from where the Spaniards also took bearings..
During the war, the German Navy had refuelling points at Thetis Bay and Aguirre Bay on Tierra del Fuego, and a big base at Astra, 20 miles north of Comodoro Rivadavia in the Gulf of San Jorge.
The interesting thing about German U-boats in Argentine waters during the war is that despite all these refuelling points, no U-boat ever visited these waters officially and no attacks were made on Allied shipping there. Therefore the purpose of a fair number of unknown U-boats being along this coast is unknown, and the nature of the U-boat base suspected to exist opposite the largest of the Inconstant Sanson Islands remains an interesting mystery.
U-boats with passengers entering islands in the other world in collusion with UFO operations raises very many ideas
Justplain
20th January 2017, 21:38
Admiral Byrd's Operation Highjump apparently stirred up a hornet's nest since that fleet was apparently attacked by ufo's off antarctica. That being the case, the evidence seems to indicate a nazi base in that region:
http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/operation-highjump-18223476/
What your research indicates is that there were further nazi bases in the Argentina area, which sounds quite plausible.
What is most fascinating is what the nazi's actually established and whether they found access to the interdimensional inner earth. Wouldnt you like to be a fly on the wall in those places?
amor
21st January 2017, 04:21
There is nothing interdimensional about the inner earth. It is merely inside and we are outside. This term is merely used to confuse people about the fact that the inner earth civilization exists.
Sunny-side-up
21st January 2017, 13:14
Thanks for your post Mecklenburger
All very interesting additional info to a vast subject.
Just connecting some dots, imaging:
Mysterious materialising/dematerialising islands reminds me of the Conquistadors seeing/reporting giant 'Flying-Golden-Cities'.
These I have always thought of as the last big/hidden 'Ancient-Civilisation' tech and or ET-Flying-Mother-Cities.
I could imaging them being held just outside our visual/material reality, either cloaked or due to there active status.
If cloaked that might be multi staged IE:
totally hidden, seen as an island projection, seen as a flying city.
These if real could now be the root of the some hidden underground bases?
As well as above I do believe settlement sized bases have been man-made/built down south, and can quite well believe some where helped by off planet and or ancient Earth beings.
Mecklenburger
21st January 2017, 18:08
Amor
The concept of Inconstant Islands is not Inner Earth but an adjacent alien environment which surrounds this one all around up to about the altitude of Saturn. Thus inconstant islands retire to the unknown regions from whence they came but as H G Wells wrote, "They are as close as the nose on your face."
The idea is fully explained in various works of plasma physics and being proposed by scientists in that field is difficult to argue against.
In 2006 the Russian Federation produced a documentary Third Reich Operation UFO in Russian (but with English subtitles) which was compulsory viewing for Russian citizens then and remains so for Russian students annually. The documentary is 44 minutes well worth watching. Ideas put forward by the Russians make us think that Inconstant islands may well exist in another time and intrude very occasionally into the Earth plane.
As to Sunny-Side-Up I would mention the immense fabulous golden City of the Césars (César was the leader of a group sent to reconnoitre) first reported by 16th century Spanish explorers to have been visited somewhere in South America: the group were all "deemed mad" when the returned with their fanastic story. There is a 1932 book on the subject.
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