Hillary Clinton: Population Control Will Now Become The Centerpiece Of U.S. Foreign P

[irishspirit]

During remarks that she made for the 15th Anniversary of the International Conference on Population and Development, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced the launch of a new program that according to Clinton will now become the centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy. This new program is known as the Global Health Initiative, and it is being incredibly well-funded at a time when the U.S. government is drowning in debt. According to Clinton, 63 billion dollars will be spent by the U.S. to prevent pregnancies and to improve "family planning" services around the globe over the next six years. In other words, the new centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy is all about eugenics and population control

http://howtohelpsavetheenvironment.com/archives/hillary-clinton-population-control-will-now-become-the-centerpiece-of-u-s-foreign-policy

[Ammit]

Sorry, did I read that bit correctly......
"According to Clinton, 63 billion dollars will be spent by the U.S. to prevent pregnancies and to improve "family planning" services around the globe over the next six years."

Cheeky cow


Ammit

[sygh]

Wait a minute... rather than being snuffed out, isn't it better to control ourselves? Doesn't this make sense, or is this supposed to have ulterior motives? America already practices birth-control.

[Ahkenaten]

The herd, not knowing how to manage itself, must be managed. This is what Clinton's proposal is all about.....................it seems strange to me that for all the so-called advances in human intelligence and development humans do not self-regulate population as other species do in nature. There are many factors involved in this of course but it is very lamentable and noticeable. To take the wolf as one example, reproduction is not a "right" of each member of the pack. In fact reproductive behavior is strictly regulated with rules severely enforced. The reasons for strict enforcement seem to be 1.) insuring survival of the species by producing optimal offspring and 2.) regulating births to correlate with environmental conditions and food supply. Now is it not puzzling that creatures many humans look down on as being "mere animals" are able to regulate their reproductivity? This is just one example. When the numbers of any creature get out of hand a phenomenon we call the bell curve comes into play...........................that is, the numbers peak at a certain level, and then suddenly drop off. Nature has its own severe way of culling excessive populations when other self-regulating mechanisms do not work. For one thing (and I know this is pretty controversial) humans have placed other meanings on human sexuality than reproduction. This is not to denigrate the powerful and profound forces of the urge to procreate, of course those are the most powerful and profound of human emotions - along with the forces of destruction and death!! But once sexuality took on other meanings for humans, they stepped outside the bounds of nature - i.e. left the Garden of Eden, and lost their ability to naturally self-regulate populations as well as naturally regulate their deepest urges.

All of this goes back to the root problem, the fundamental crisis we face today - the split in the human psyche that has resulted in an inherent schizophrenia playing out on all levels.

What can be done to heal the split in the basic nature of human beings?

First we must WAKE UP to the problem. It is within our deepest selves. We are split and divided in our basic nature. We must reintegrate ourselves and become whole, conscious people again in order to survive and develop.

But first we must WAKE UP!

[Snowbird]

There will always and forever be two or more sides to the issue of global over-population. This is an extremely touchy subject. This is also a subject that needs to be discussed in the open whereby people begin to open their hearts and minds to change.

This change should never be forced upon people. However, these same people need to open their minds to new and different ways of living, surviving and thriving on Mother's planet. These same people need to become responsible for their actions and attitudes in response to their global citizenship.

I do not respect or agree with China's policies. I do not agree with force being used to curb global population. I do believe in education being initiated and financed and utilized as the driving effort behind preventing over-population.

The quotes below stem from the article linked in the opening post.


We live in a world that is becoming more evil all the time. Every person on this planet has a fundamental right to have as many children as they want, but the truth is that this right is being stripped away from an increasing number of people.

This so-called right,should be stripped away and replaced with logic and reason. People do not have a fundamental right to have as many children as they want. This attitude, in light of the current population overload of our planet, borders on irresponsibility. This attitude also stems in part, from an historical and current teaching from the pulpits of religions around the world. This belief essentially brings unplanned and more acutely, unwanted children into the world who are forced to fight and scrape for survival. Just because a man and a woman have the capability to produce offspring, does not in any way mean that they will be responsible and caring parents that provide the very best for their children. Unwanted children having unwanted children is a blaring example of this. Where is the education in this mind set? Where are the personal limitations set and adhered to? How will these children know and understand the consequences of their sexual actions if there are no educational standards?


We live at a time when even our most fundamental liberties as human beings are under attack. Let us hope that America wakes up and starts saying "no" to these kinds of policies.

Bringing unplanned and unwanted children into the world is NOT a fundamental liberty.

[Ahkenaten]

The notion of rights has been subverted and perverted...............it is well to understand that every right asserted confers obligations on others.

[instead]

This is a complicated topic indeed. I agree with parts of both sides. In the end I believe a resource based economy is part of the solution.

Having children that can't be properly cared for is an irresponsible act.

[norman]

I tend think that many of the world's current problems stem from a long term 'fund raising' program that got going around about the time of the National Security Act in the US.

They needed to raise large amounts of money "off the balance sheet" and unaccountable to the congress or the people.

The huge surge in the use of ilegal drugs, and possibly the entire 60s cultural 'revolution' can probably be put down to that.

The way they "SELL" sex isn't doing much to help the 'problem' Clinton is refering to either.

During a long telephone conversation I recently had with an old mate from years back, he said "well there IS a population problem in the world". My response to him was that there may be a problem with the impact the human race is having on the world but that could very well be due the 'way' we are living, not on the total population number. We could keep the 'system' and cull the people or we could change the system and keep the people. It's not hard to see which option the 'elite' are choosing.

[Snowbird]

During a long telephone conversation I recently had with an old mate from years back, he said "well there IS a population problem in the world". My response to him was that there may be a problem with the impact the human race is having on the world but that could very well be due the 'way' we are living, not on the total population number. We could keep the 'system' and cull the people or we could change the system and keep the people. It's not hard to see which option the 'elite' are choosing.

I have stopped thinking about them as the elite because they are no such thing. I now call them controllers because that is what they are, and I also call them a number of other names that I am not allowed to post. :eyebrows:

[Etherios]

Why is everyone still believe that we have overpopulation problems? All the west is in population decline. West is spending 10-20 times more per person that the REST of the world all together. We always go for more/faster/cheaper/more profit. Its not about how many ppl we have its about how we are being raised/educated/programmed. We dont need huge houses and 3 cars and holiday villas.. We dont need to "waste" enough materials/energy(enough feed wole villages in asia) to eat in "high" class restaurants that serve TINY pieces of food and through away the rest. We dont need to use so much "protection" so we can ship the food from all around the world producing more waste that products...

I can go on and on and on. If you guys really believe that this HUGE place called earth cant support the human race as it is at the momment or as i may become (if they let us) then you are just wrong. Earth cant support our ever growing "desire" for more profit, for more money, for more products, for more more more. This awesomely beautiful planet cant support the sick and twisted societies we have created. WE ARE NOT A PARASITE... the "way of life" some have implanted in our mind since birth is the parasite that eats away this planet and the human race.

NO we can survive the way we are cause we have run out of places to pillage and exploit. Africa is dieing, east Europe is totally messed up, Asia is exterminated (legal slavery)... there are no more ppl to steal from so the beast (growth) turns on its own flesh and we say its overpopulation... if still now ppl are not sure about this.. we are doomed.

[Snowbird]

Why is everyone still believe that we have overpopulation problems? All the west is in population decline. West is spending 10-20 times more per person that the REST of the world all together. We always go for more/faster/cheaper/more profit. Its not about how many ppl we have its about how we are being raised/educated/programmed. We dont need huge houses and 3 cars and holiday villas.. We dont need to "waste" enough materials/energy(enough feed wole villages in asia) to eat in "high" class restaurants that serve TINY pieces of food and through away the rest. We dont need to use so much "protection" so we can ship the food from all around the world producing more waste that products...

I can go on and on and on. If you guys really believe that this HUGE place called earth cant support the human race as it is at the momment or as i may become (if they let us) then you are just wrong. Earth cant support our ever growing "desire" for more profit, for more money, for more products, for more more more. This awesomely beautiful planet cant support the sick and twisted societies we have created. WE ARE NOT A PARASITE... the "way of life" some have implanted in our mind since birth is the parasite that eats away this planet and the human race.

NO we can survive the way we are cause we have run out of places to pillage and exploit. Africa is dieing, east Europe is totally messed up, Asia is exterminated (legal slavery)... there are no more ppl to steal from so the beast (growth) turns on its own flesh and we say its overpopulation... if still now ppl are not sure about this.. we are doomed.

Etherios, you make a very valid point. I, personally, am not against people. I happen to like them. What I am against is the fact that because of the heinous control that the controllers have over this earth, we cannot feed, house, educate and protect several billion people. This does not mean, however, that I believe that they should be slaughtered and starved to death. I don't.

I do believe that people who continue to mindlessly procreate, need to seriously consider change.

And, I also support the right to die for adults who are of sound mind, who have made the choice with several diagnoses from physicians, to end their lives. They should be able to make this decision based upon their personal medical situations. I figure that if any government can send the young of their country into profit-making wars simply to be harmed and killed, they have no right to prevent someone from making the decision to end their own life with dignity.

[Jonathon]

63 billion? That's a helluva lot of condoms...

[sygh]

Etheros,

I mean no disrespect but I have to say -yes, I do think we have an over-population problem. There is a balance to all things and we are out of balance on a myriad of levels, as we are well aware of. Do I think all of us, that is 7.5 billion people can fix the mess we have made? Yes, I agree with you, we could but it means that we would all have to work together. We'd have to have a plan, and there would have to be people in charge keeping things focused. Over-population or not, we need to clean up our filthy ways of living, and it will probably take a majority of us to do it. But we still must face the fact that we are overpopulated. We know human nature; ask the animals what they think.

We'd have to start planting floura and fauna, stop using poisons, pestisides and nitrogen. We'd need to start fish farms and release them into the oceans, etc, etc, etc... We'll need technological advances of the sort that are eco-friendly and we will have to be happy with a roof over our heads and food in our bellies. We'd have to change the way we live and where we live.

Which, when I start thinking like this, always brings me to the same point: What do we eat? In this body, we are eaters. That has been on my mind for a long time. Meat doesn't fit well into the human equation, if it ever did. What do ETs eat? What do the beings of light eat? Why did we enter into matter to begin with?

Culling the human herd? Would any of us want to be wearing those shoes? What person, or people on this earth have the right to make that call? I'm sure there is a group who have been allocated to, and feel responsible for that task. We certainly have the means. What bothers us most is that it is the same group of people who are responsible for leading us into this pit. Why didn't our leaders have the foresight and the fortitude we seem to have in hindsight? Where were the words of wisdom that flow out of every sacred book? How did religion go so astray? Our religious books were written as warnings for future generations, not idol worship, or absolution. The words of higher consciousness and the signs of warning are still there, even if they have been obscured by time and general concensious.

It hurts to wake up, to realize you've been asleep, depending upon someone else to make all the decisions in the big picture, only to find that it's the population that screams humans have rights that reach far beyond all other living creatures on this earth. We lost sight of what was really important. And for all of us who have been awake for some time, it really is up to us to take the lead, or point out the way to those who are more capable of putting a decent plan into action, and then following through. More on this subject needs to be heard by the general populous in main stream media. Although I find it hard to imagine this coming from current talking heads. But it would be refreshing, wouldn't it?

[Ahkenaten]

It is an interesting exercise to look into the recent history of the environmental movement..............which began in the US as the "conservation movement" arising out of the emergence of landscape art, specifically the Hudson River School of landscape painting. Supporters of this movement have historically been the educated upper classes raised to appreciate the aesthetic values of art, and thus, the multi-level values of the environment - and by the way they are often the descendants of landed aristocracy in Europe. It came as somewhat of a shock to me reviewing this history, to discover that the aristocratic values underpinning the so-called 'environmental movement' were not only parallel to, but in many cases were IDENTICAL with old values in which the lands were seen not as commons owned by the public, but rather as the exclusive playgrounds of the rich. It is well to recall that in olden times, not only was (and still is, in Merrie Olde England) the land owned by the Crown, but the penalties for commoners found poaching on Crown lands were severe...............not only the land, but all living things occupying the land, i.e. the plants and animals, belonged to the Crown. Only the King, his relatives and appointees, had the "right" to hunt on the land. Fast forward to today..........................like it or not, the environmental/conservation movement in the US is an aristocratic movement that has engaged the support and attention of many well-intended but not too aware people from the lower classes who love the earth. The purpose of the movement is to preserve the open spaces and environmental assets, NOT for the general public, but for the wealthy upper classes who feel that it is their BIRTHRIGHT to control the assets of the earth which are theirs, and moreover it is their sacred obligation to PROTECT AND DEFEND the earth and its assets from the ill-mannered, rude, rapacious masses. This is how CONTEMPT for humans (meaning the masses) is a value built into the environmental movement in the US. It would appear that to those classes espousing environmental protection, any animal is more valuable than most humans (meaning the masses)...........which would seem contradictory if one failed to grasp that the elites wish to preserve the earth for THEM and THEIR PROGENY, not for the ignorant dirty slaves that only THINK they have any rights whatsoever!

I digress. My point in bringing up this issue is to shed some light on the whole discussion about the earth, its assets, its support capacity for human beings, and what the values are that underpin major movements afoot today to reduce the world's population, returning it to an idyllic massive park in which the elites envision themselves in sort of a gigantic garden of EDEN, served of course by those of us who are permitted to survive their planned carnage as pliable, benign, SERVANTS. Picture them jetting across verdant landscapes unsoiled by the dirty vile masses of humans, from one crystalline citadel to another, for this is how they regard us. They will then let the animals and plants they have carefully preserved out onto a landscape freed from the burden of massive human populations. The entire planet, after some temporary upheavals and messiness, will revert to the state they desire - a WORLD PARK PARADISE presided over by them and their descendants.

This is somewhat of the vision they have in mind..........................bear in mind the well-being or survival of the vast masses of humanity is not their concern at all.