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Skywizard
4th February 2017, 00:01
http://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Baalbek.jpg
Located in present-day Lebanon, this millenarian city is one of the most important
archaeological sites of the near east.
It was one of the most important ancient Roman cities in the Near East and was previously occupied by the Greeks. Some archaeologists argue that it was consecrated by the Phoenicians to the worship of the god Baal. No one knows the origin of the city although numerous theories have been proposed.
According to conventional archaeologists, it was a Phoenician sanctuary dedicated to the god Baal; it was a Greek City called Heliopolis (City of the Sun) and since the time of Emperor Augustus, it was a Roman colony. The truth is, the exact age remains a mystery, but some researchers consider this ancient megalithic site as being at least 12.000 years old but could be over 20,000 years old.
Among the most intriguing of these megaliths is the Trilithon, and here is the cool part: three colossal blocks measuring 22 meters in length, 4.5 m high and 3.5 m wide. Their weight ranges between one and two thousand tons. These three huge megaliths tons on a row of six blocks of granite that measure each, 10 meters in length and 4 height and weighing over 300 tons.
Baalbek is an ancient city out of this world.
Source: http://www.ewao.com/a/5-ancient-cities-whose-origin-remains-profound-mystery/
http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/p/peace/graphics-peace-740037.gifpeace...
DeDukshyn
4th February 2017, 00:07
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YSP5Px-bwWA/UzQtCvJeNhI/AAAAAAAAATI/sEqPob5MrXk/s1600/xgfhfxghfhfhfhfh.jpg
Supposedly carved from solid stone by "cavemen" -- if our paradigmatic timeline of human history as our "experts' see it is to be believed ... Just more blatantly ignored evidence of past advanced civilizations ...
An alternative theory as to "how" these huge stones were carved ... some have considered that these huge stones were "cast" somehow like we would do with concrete these days to build an overpass. The ultimate question remains - why use a giant, impossible to use / move / create structure, when using smaller stones would be much easier and achieve the same effect ???
Either A) they had tech, know-how, engineering skills, etc and it was NOT hard for them to create and wield these massive blocks or ...
B) It was incredibly difficult, and we can't possibly imagine the motivation for why they would need such structures.
Same with all the pyramids.
EFO
4th February 2017, 07:06
Part of a "stone" at mountain Shorya
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_arqueo/megalithicrussia_06.jpg
All stones in one web site:
http://megaliths.org/
and some flavor :)
Trovanti Museum Natural Reserve. Romania
Posted on: 06.08.2016 / Comments: No comments / Categories: Europe
This unusual phenomenon proves once again that nature is a living organism, in which even stones can move and grow in the truest sense of this word! These living stones are called trovants. Trovanti Museum Natural Reserve, a place of accumulation of such strange stone beings, is located in the south of Romania, among the sand quarries of the Vâlcea district near the village of Costeşti. For the first time, local residents paid attention to them when have noticed that the rounded stones grow up a little after each new rainy day. Size of trovants ranges from a few grams to several tons, and the largest of the samples reach a height of 10 meters. It is worth noting an important detail – these huge boulders were just small stones many years ago.
Interestingly, the smaller the stone, the faster it grows. Trovant growth process can be compared with the formation of pearl around a speck of dust fallen into the shell. Thus, on a place of cleavage of boulders, you can detect a concentric zonation resembling tree rings. As a rule, the stones have a rounded or streamline shape. However, they are growing unevenly, and so often take the most bizarre forms. But these stones are not just growing like mushrooms, some trovants, like the famous sailing stones of Death Valley in California, change their location sometimes and move from place to place. Moreover, they are able to multiply! Such a form of life seems to be inexplicable or even extraterrestrial! Creepy!
Geologists do not console themselves with an illusion that trovants are living creatures. They explain growth of the stones due to high content of various mineral salts under their shell. When the surface is wet, the chemical compounds begin to expand and press on sand, causing the stone to “grow.” Thus, at a certain moment, the bulge, which is formed on the surface of the stone from the side which gets wet, is gradually increasing. And when this bulge reaches a relatively large size, under the force of earth’s gravity it leaves the parent stone.
So, a young separated tovant already has a developed kernel covered with a thin layer of sand – that is, it doesn’t differ from any other trovant now. And even if the researchers were able to explain the expansion of stones, the division of the solid kernel remains an enigma to this day.
The process of reproduction of trovants can be compared with budding. Summarizing, we can list – these stones grow; small stones grow faster than larger ones; these stones multiply; these stones move in any direction for considerable distances, even uphill. All of these factors make us believe that the stones are really alive, and represent a kind of inorganic form of life.
Today, Trovanti Museum Natural Reserve – is one of the most important attractions in Central Romania. Tourists from all over the world come to gaze at the unusual stones. Resourceful Romanians make cute souvenirs and ornaments from small trovants, so you can bring a piece of stone miracle from the trip to Vâlcea. Many owners of such stones souvenirs argue that little trovants, when wet, start to grow, and even sometimes move around the house arbitrarily that produces quite an eerie impression.
Similar stones can be also found in other countries of the world, for example, in Russia, in the village of Andreevka (Oryol Oblast).
Source with images:https://feel-planet.com/trovanti-museum-natural-reserve-romania/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFX_5fAEbc&t=62s
uzn
4th February 2017, 08:19
Some more Pictures in this Thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89530-Why-is-the-Smithsonian-hiding-history&p=1059091&viewfull=1#post1059091
enigma3
4th February 2017, 17:21
Some of the stones at Mt Shoria are considerably larger than those at Baalbek. I have read estimates that some are 3 times as heavy as the stones at Baalbek. Upwards of 3000 tons. And Mt Shoria is truly out in the boondocks. The stones at Shoria are also several layers tall.
We must acknowledge that our ancient ancestors all over the world knew how to easily move massive stones that we do not know how to do. How did they cut them to such precise dimensions and then move them with such ease? Boggling.
As a child we played an interesting parlor game. Someone would sit in a chair and one person on each side of the chair would then try to lift the chair and person into the air . Very difficult to do. Then the two people on each side of the chair would put their hands on top of the sitter's head for at least 30 seconds and say a simple chant. I don't know if the chant is necessary or just part of the parlor game. Then, quickly, the two lifters would again attempt to lift the chair and whomever was in it. It was always much easier, and I do mean much easier, to do the lift. I suspect some technique like that was used to lift the stones. Just another theory.
It is unfortunate that virtually no advanced machinery has been discovered. Could have been done with machines. After reading the Christopher Dunn book I would love to get a peek at the Egyptian machine that was used to drill granite so fast. Or the machine that was used to dress the stones at Baalbek before moving.
Baalbek is on my bucket list.
EFO
4th February 2017, 21:29
As a child we played an interesting parlor game. Someone would sit in a chair and one person on each side of the chair would then try to lift the chair and person into the air . Very difficult to do. Then the two people on each side of the chair would put their hands on top of the sitter's head for at least 30 seconds and say a simple chant. I don't know if the chant is necessary or just part of the parlor game. Then, quickly, the two lifters would again attempt to lift the chair and whomever was in it. It was always much easier, and I do mean much easier, to do the lift. I suspect some technique like that was used to lift the stones. Just another theory.
.
What you wrote about Mt. Shorya is true.There also a short movie om youtube with a Russian professor (the man with the beard and camo jacket in posted photo) which make studies on that "buildings".
We are also played that game in Romania,but I didn't play it personally.The difference was that we didn't do the chant.We simply put the hands (palms) above the top of the kid from the chair,as you did,but counting to 10 and the weight almost vanish.
uzn
4th February 2017, 22:29
Cool Thread about Mt. Shorya:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68946-Megaliths-found-in-Southern-Siberia&p=820986&viewfull=1#post820986
in the meantime take a look at this little fella ;)
http://jcourt.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/shoria002-18.jpg
ElfeMya
5th February 2017, 11:03
As a child we played an interesting parlor game. Someone would sit in a chair and one person on each side of the chair would then try to lift the chair and person into the air . Very difficult to do. Then the two people on each side of the chair would put their hands on top of the sitter's head for at least 30 seconds and say a simple chant. I don't know if the chant is necessary or just part of the parlor game. Then, quickly, the two lifters would again attempt to lift the chair and whomever was in it. It was always much easier, and I do mean much easier, to do the lift. I suspect some technique like that was used to lift the stones. Just another theory.
.
What you wrote about Mt. Shorya is true.There also a short movie om youtube with a Russian professor (the man with the beard and camo jacket in posted photo) which make studies on that "buildings".
We are also played that game in Romania,but I didn't play it personally.The difference was that we didn't do the chant.We simply put the hands (palms) above the top of the kid from the chair,as you did,but counting to 10 and the weight almost vanish.
Wow EFO, now you got me super interested and curious and I definitely would love to try this !
Some of the stones at Mt Shoria are considerably larger than those at Baalbek. I have read estimates that some are 3 times as heavy as the stones at Baalbek. Upwards of 3000 tons. And Mt Shoria is truly out in the boondocks. The stones at Shoria are also several layers tall.
We must acknowledge that our ancient ancestors all over the world knew how to easily move massive stones that we do not know how to do. How did they cut them to such precise dimensions and then move them with such ease? Boggling.
As a child we played an interesting parlor game. Someone would sit in a chair and one person on each side of the chair would then try to lift the chair and person into the air . Very difficult to do. Then the two people on each side of the chair would put their hands on top of the sitter's head for at least 30 seconds and say a simple chant. I don't know if the chant is necessary or just part of the parlor game. Then, quickly, the two lifters would again attempt to lift the chair and whomever was in it. It was always much easier, and I do mean much easier, to do the lift. I suspect some technique like that was used to lift the stones. Just another theory.
It is unfortunate that virtually no advanced machinery has been discovered. Could have been done with machines. After reading the Christopher Dunn book I would love to get a peek at the Egyptian machine that was used to drill granite so fast. Or the machine that was used to dress the stones at Baalbek before moving.
Baalbek is on my bucket list.
Enigma, would you care to share the chant you said as a kid ?
Thanks for shring those informations !
Sunny-side-up
5th February 2017, 11:43
All totally mind stretch images, great OP
This image below could hold some clues.
If it was possible to excavate down along the side, exposing the burred portion and the stratification of soil layers. we could see how it has become burred one end.
I mean was it natural or some mistake in moving it.
Could see if it was a dug hole or vibrations caused it to sink?
might give some insight.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YSP5Px-bwWA/UzQtCvJeNhI/AAAAAAAAATI/sEqPob5MrXk/s1600/xgfhfxghfhfhfhfh.jpg
Seeing stones of this size and wondering how they where moved, always make me think of Thaumaturgy.
Moving a large object by making and moving small version made from the big object.
Working with the principles of
'Once together-always together'
and
'like attracts like'.
Sounds a bit like 'Entanglement ha!
I think they where masters of sound and resonance.
EFO
5th February 2017, 12:56
As a child we played an interesting parlor game. Someone would sit in a chair and one person on each side of the chair would then try to lift the chair and person into the air . Very difficult to do. Then the two people on each side of the chair would put their hands on top of the sitter's head for at least 30 seconds and say a simple chant. I don't know if the chant is necessary or just part of the parlor game. Then, quickly, the two lifters would again attempt to lift the chair and whomever was in it. It was always much easier, and I do mean much easier, to do the lift. I suspect some technique like that was used to lift the stones. Just another theory.
.
What you wrote about Mt. Shorya is true.There also a short movie om youtube with a Russian professor (the man with the beard and camo jacket in posted photo) which make studies on that "buildings".
We are also played that game in Romania,but I didn't play it personally.The difference was that we didn't do the chant.We simply put the hands (palms) above the top of the kid from the chair,as you did,but counting to 10 and the weight almost vanish.
Wow EFO, now you got me super interested and curious and I definitely would love to try this !
Some of the stones at Mt Shoria are considerably larger than those at Baalbek. I have read estimates that some are 3 times as heavy as the stones at Baalbek. Upwards of 3000 tons. And Mt Shoria is truly out in the boondocks. The stones at Shoria are also several layers tall.
We must acknowledge that our ancient ancestors all over the world knew how to easily move massive stones that we do not know how to do. How did they cut them to such precise dimensions and then move them with such ease? Boggling.
As a child we played an interesting parlor game. Someone would sit in a chair and one person on each side of the chair would then try to lift the chair and person into the air . Very difficult to do. Then the two people on each side of the chair would put their hands on top of the sitter's head for at least 30 seconds and say a simple chant. I don't know if the chant is necessary or just part of the parlor game. Then, quickly, the two lifters would again attempt to lift the chair and whomever was in it. It was always much easier, and I do mean much easier, to do the lift. I suspect some technique like that was used to lift the stones. Just another theory.
It is unfortunate that virtually no advanced machinery has been discovered. Could have been done with machines. After reading the Christopher Dunn book I would love to get a peek at the Egyptian machine that was used to drill granite so fast. Or the machine that was used to dress the stones at Baalbek before moving.
Baalbek is on my bucket list.
Enigma, would you care to share the chant you said as a kid ?
Thanks for shring those informations !
Hi ElfeMya,
In the following I'l try to be more accurate as possible.I don't know if this play is aplicable to mature,but it worth a try.
We use a classic wooden four legs chair and 29 kids with close ages.
- 1 kid is sitting on the chair;
- 4 kids hold the lowest part of each chair's leg;
- 4 kids hold their each both hands uspide down above the head of the sitting kids,forming a stack/pile of hands one above the other,but not touching it.When this formation is on position these 4 kids start to count loud to ten in the same time.When the count is ready,instantly they withdraw their hands and the other four kids,in the same time,lift the chair almost instantly when the kids withdraw their hands.
In 99% of the cases they succeed. :)
The other 20 kids are watching and joking and laughing and all the other stuff... :)
Perhaps the our counting replace enigma3's chant.
I hope this info was helpful.:)
Sort of this kind of chair
http://cdnimg2.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/large/78973/894809.jpg
Hands
http://secondlifechattanooga.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Collaboration-1.jpg
EFO
5th February 2017, 16:16
Ok,I found the interview (subtitled in English)...
Gornaya Shoriya, Georgy Sidorov interview - Горная Шория, Георгий Сидоров интервью
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upKOjZYzGAQ
Foxie Loxie
5th February 2017, 16:40
Thank you, EFO, for posting this most amazing video! :highfive:
regnak
5th February 2017, 18:50
The stones are actually concrete made by pouring rock and lime into it. That is why there is no gap between the rock layers all the ancient sites blocks are made this way. To those who say not true the proof is the weight of the rock it is 1/10 the weight it should be there were made using baskets to pour the rock .
The Great Wall is not that ancient why because it was built using bricks if it was ancient the bricks would be Poured with no gaps between the layers.
There are power points around the world on the harmonic grid Stonehenge is built on one and the giants causeway in Northern Ireland these are power points like pressure points of the body .there is a lot to this topic and I do not know it all look up tesla and Bruce Cathie .
EFO
5th February 2017, 19:09
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3a/5c/60/3a5c60676d8a1f0e43ee0789749dd4a4.jpg
regnak
5th February 2017, 19:26
You make the world
Much more beautiful
I think English is better :) to understand anyway :) for me :)
uzn
5th February 2017, 21:43
The stones are actually concrete made by pouring rock and lime into it. That is why there is no gap between the rock layers all the ancient sites blocks are made this way. To those who say not true the proof is the weight of the rock it is 1/10 the weight it should be there were made using baskets to pour the rock .
With Baalbek I have to disagree. No pouring and no 10th of the Weight here !!!
The Stone of the pregnant Women (حجر الحبلى Hadschar al-Hubla) or sometimes Stone of the South wheights 1000 tons (1.000.000 kg) and is still in the querry where it has been cut out (Sandstone). The Querry is about 900 meters away from the Temple Platform.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Baalbek-stoneofpregnantwoman.jpg
the same goes for her Sisterstone that was discovered 1990 and wheights unbelievable 1242 tons (1.242.000 kg).
19,5–20,5 m length 4,34–4,56 m broad 4,5 m high typical Sandstone and still in the quarry:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Baalbek-_largest_stone.jpg
In 2014 a Libanese-german Team found another Monolith made out of sandstone in this Quarry that weights 1650 tons (1.650.000 kg). This one is 19,6 m length, 6 m broad and 5,5 m high. sandstone of Course. It´s called: The Stone Of Janeen. It´s the heaviest cut Stone that is officially recognised.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_the_Pregnant_Woman#Second_monolith
regnak
5th February 2017, 23:43
read WHy the pharods built the pryminads with fake stone
by joseph davidovits
All the ancient sites were built this way using a small basket instead of a crane
they actually built a wall using this method in france to prove it all the stone are fake basically concrete from
every country around the world
i think i read that a team of hundred built them in couple weeks why so slow it take time for the concrete to set so they built it up in stages the designers were
very skilled .
i saw a tv program were they could not even build a small pryminad with rollers ramps and lots people i think in the end they brought a small crane and equipment
Justplain
6th February 2017, 01:00
There is evidence that some ancient stone work is poured, but the baalbek stones were quarried, as were most of the egyptian works. NewEarth vids show a quarry near the black sea that clearly shows cut marks in the stone that are thinner and more precise than anything we produce today.
Another startling thing about ancient megalithic structures are the underground communities, some which appear to be older than we would ever believe
Megalithic structures point to civilizations dating back over possibly millions of years:
http://earthbeforeflood.com/who_and_when_constructed_underwater_underground_terrestrial_megalithic_complex.html
Sunny-side-up
6th February 2017, 14:21
Yes some poured, some chiselled and some very finely cut with very thin blades?
I still think by some ways we now not!
So not ALL this way or that, a mixture.
It's not just the moving of these items that is amazing, they had to be cut (those not poured that is) from the bedrock?
How to do that?
If cut in a horizontal position I would guess the item would have to be cut free underneath first, installing supports as they go (also giving it a finished surface as they go).
Next digging away the sides and last the top.
Then move it???
All really mind boggling 0.o
PS
read WHy the pharods built the pryminads with fake stone
by joseph davidovits
BTW I don't think they did build them in the first place :sun:
regnak
6th February 2017, 18:32
Khemit built the pryminad they are the last of Africa great civilisation most of the really old Africa civilisations come from the south of Africa because in ancient times all of North Africa was desert .
The great pryminads in Egypt had a practical function as a water pumping station the queen chamber was covered in salt and many of the early explorer of the pryminads drowned most of these tunnels are closed and they are both deep and shallow a small child can walk through these tunnels easily but a adult cannot .
Khemit recently and it fell because it opened its mystery schools to Europeans who invaded the history goes back around 200,000 years for the older ones .
shaberon
6th February 2017, 23:57
As a child we played an interesting parlor game. Someone would sit in a chair and one person on each side of the chair would then try to lift the chair and person into the air . Very difficult to do. Then the two people on each side of the chair would put their hands on top of the sitter's head for at least 30 seconds and say a simple chant. I don't know if the chant is necessary or just part of the parlor game. Then, quickly, the two lifters would again attempt to lift the chair and whomever was in it. It was always much easier, and I do mean much easier, to do the lift. I suspect some technique like that was used to lift the stones. Just another theory.
I never tried that as a child--but I did do it with my college physics class, whom, you may imagine, were pretty skeptical about such things. It worked flawlessly. It was a non-traditional school, so everyone ranged from above the usual college age to almost 40. We actually lifted the person sitting, not the chair.
I believe it worked because it was done to a living person, and whatever is going on with these rocks is probably a little bit different.
Skywizard
7th February 2017, 04:29
Among the most intriguing of these megaliths is the Trilithon, and here is the cool part: three colossal blocks measuring 22 meters in length, 4.5 m high and 3.5 m wide. Their weight ranges between one and two thousand tons.
Friends...
Sit back and imagine in your mind our ancient ancestors dragging a 72'241" long x 14'9165" high x 11'575" wide carved near perfect granite slab, weighing 1,000 to 2,000 tons across the dessert, then stacking it at least 20' on top of other blocks in perfect alignment. To me, this defies all human logic! Either our ancestors knew a hell of a lot more than we give them credit for or they had some divine intervention.
Miracles like this is what keeps me knee deep in Ancient Archaeology ... just can't get enough ...
http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/p/peace/graphics-peace-740037.gifpeace... 'the Wizard'
regnak
7th February 2017, 15:10
Sky wizard they were. Poured fake stones or concrete they are simply to big to move even now with today technology so how did Stone Age people drag 2,000 tone blocks hundreds of miles and not one block but hundreds and thousands.
DeDukshyn
7th February 2017, 15:53
Sky wizard they were. Poured fake stones or concrete they are simply to big to move even now with today technology so how did Stone Age people drag 2,000 tone blocks hundreds of miles and not one block but hundreds and thousands.
Not all these stones were poured - if a slab is granite - it had to have been carved. You can't make concrete out of granite - and if the cave man did it, we'd want to know their technological secrets for pulverizing thousands of tonnes of granite to make concrete (and their motivation to do so), because even with today's technology and machinery that would be a massive laborious task just to get a couple tonnes.
Also consider that some of these structures seem to be 10,000 years old plus, and some possibly up to 30,000 years old, and it looks like solid stone - not concrete at all. Our best modern concrete can last how long? Maybe 500 years? Another consideration that if some of these stones were cast, imagine the "form" (concrete casting term) that would be required to hold 100 tonnes of concrete. How was the form even built?
Lot's of mysteries ...
uzn
7th February 2017, 16:03
Isn´t that fantastic: One book to explain it all ! That Sounds an awful lot like the cathollic church.
I heard of that pouring theory about 15 years ago. At that time it was a russian Researcher that promoted that idea. It intriged me at that time. So I did something totally not usual. I researched on my own and made my own conclusions. If your pouring theory would have been right everything should fit to it. But Research lead me to the conclusion that it was just a neat try to explain the unexplainable. Some Point that dont fit your "One book explains it all" pouring theory:
1. Why on earth would they pour their Stones in a quarry 900 meters away from the temple ? Where they keen on carrying them through the sand ? If they could they would have poured them on site.
2. In nearly every Sandstone used in ancient buldings there are Little seashells and other fossiles embedded. Clearly indicating its natural sandstone that formed at the bottom of a sea millions of years ago. Or did the Pouring Masters add some seashells and fossiles just to fool us in the future ??? To hide their secret pouring ways ? That sounds a lot like what hardcore Christians say about the dinosaur bones. God just hid them everywhere to test their faith ;)
3. What about the heaviest Stones used in the Pyramids for example ? The big Granite Blocks above the "kings chamber" ? Did they also pour Granite Stones ???
4. The biggest Obelisk in Egypt. Half cut out of a sandstone bedrock. Still resting in a quarry ? Or did they pour the hole bedrock just to cut out the Obelisk afterwards ? And carry it for hundreds of Kilometers to some big City?
I could go on and on, but I stop here.
The only interesting Thing I heard while reserching the pouring theory was that some Amazon tribe told an english Explorer (forgot the Name) that there is a plant in the Amazon that could soften Stone at the outher edges. That researcher got possessed by that idea and spend years searching in the Amazon after that plant and finally was never seen again. A bit like the Eldorado Tale that so many spaniards went mad over.
regnak
7th February 2017, 16:47
While I believe the fake stones theory my only other theory is that civilisation rises and falls throughout history if your looking for really ancient highclass human civilisation search the deserts for there are the remains of a very high class human civilisation which fell to Stone Age.
There is evidence of a nuclear conflict between Indian and Arab in ancient times and I do believe climate can cause extinction level events knowledge survived but only bits and pieces . Traces of this conflict were found in Ireland as well and probably other countries around the world .
India has tales of flying machines viminas they are called and conflict with Sri Lanka in which they built a bridge to the island evidence has been found of this bridge by archologist. They also speak of nuclear weapons and people using them also they speak of the engine of these flying machines which is mercury .
In Tibet have you heard a tale of the singing or. Flying rocks in a monastery high in the mountains of Tibet a western observed some monks make huge rocks fly by playing musical instruments true . A video was made of this demonstration and precise meserments of the distances and number of people and musical instruments involved . The tape was taken by western governments classified top secret awesome stuff .
uzn
7th February 2017, 20:08
I dont dismiss the pouring theory, it just dont explain all ancient Buildings. Some where definitly done with cut natural Stone. I also think that there has been several high cultures before us with advanced Technology. The Indians speak of 6 previous cycles.
The Mayans for example used concrete to build several of their temples. As did the Romans. The Colluseum was build using ancient concrete in just 4 Years.
Example for Mayan Concrete use: Governor's Palace at Uxmal:
http://www.reed.edu/uxmal/galleries/Full/Uxmal/NunneryEast/Uxmal-NunneryEast-74.htm
Skywizard
7th February 2017, 20:58
my only other theory is that civilisation rises and falls throughout history...
My theory exactly!!
http://img.theepochtimes.com/n3/eet-content/uploads/2016/10/04/castellar_de_meca_49-2-676x450.jpg
12 Million-Year-Old Vehicle Tracks Found in Stone, Claims
Geologist
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah82/skywizard11/toycar2_zpsnheuqegt.jpg?1486960464978&1486960465812
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah82/skywizard11/toycar_zpsu9veblkn.jpg?1486960464976&1486960465811
Could This 7500-Year-Old Discovery Be The Earliest Evidence
Of The Wheel?
Hummmmmmm.......
http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/p/peace/graphics-peace-740037.gifpeace...
Foxie Loxie
8th February 2017, 17:11
Where were these "wheel" tracks found? I know there are some on Malta. :confused:
EFO
8th February 2017, 19:59
my only other theory is that civilisation rises and falls throughout history...
My theory exactly!!
http://img.theepochtimes.com/n3/eet-content/uploads/2016/10/04/castellar_de_meca_49-2-676x450.jpg
12 Million-Year-Old Vehicle Tracks Found in Stone, Claims
Geologist
http://www.messagetoeagle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/toycar.jpg
http://www.messagetoeagle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/toycar2.jpg
Could This 7500-Year-Old Discovery Be The Earliest Evidence
Of The Wheel?
Hummmmmmm.......
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"Extremely Ancient Cities and Vehicles of Spain" Series of Documentaries (trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JoEeTyyfio
EFO
8th February 2017, 20:06
More about stones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmCOFm0nTn0
Bob
9th February 2017, 01:29
Where were these "wheel" tracks found? I know there are some on Malta. :confused:
http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/
"Cart Ruts Malta – the islands of Malta and Gozo are the most famous location of these mysterious and ancient paired grooves in the rock (also known as Cart Tracks)."
There are more Cart Ruts being discovered in other countries in Europe and America.
The most popular area in Malta for them is Clapham Junction (Misrah Ghar il-Kbir as it is known by the Maltese) due to the high number in total, multiple pairs beside each other for some unknown reason and that they even intersect each other in crazy spaghetti junctions.
How were Cart Ruts in Malta formed? Were they made by vehicles like wooden sleds or wheeled carts? Are they natural? Were they created for or by aliens/UFO’s? There are no records or mythology left by those who were around when these meandering paired tracks were created.
http://earth4all.net/russian-geologist-says-fossilised-tracks-are-proof-prehistoric-race-used-all-terrain-vehicles/
"Dr Alexander Koltypin, director of the Natural Science Scientific Research Centre at Moscow’s International Independent Ecological-Political University, recently returned from a field trip in the Phrygian valley of central Turkey. Upon his return he has made some very bold claims about a number of strange stone formations that are present in the area. It is his statement that what he has observed were fossilised vehicle tracks from an advanced wheeled vehicle that operated in the area over 12 million years ago."
http://earth4all.net/wp-content/uploads/map.jpg
http://earth4all.net/wp-content/uploads/MaltaTracks-500x375.jpg
After the "cart tracks" there is this
http://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/290-million-year-old-footprint-Ancient-Code.jpg
290 million year old human footprint..
The discovery of the 290 million year old footprint was made in New Mexico by paleontologist Jerry MacDonald in 1987. In the vicinity of this mysterious footprint there are fossilized impressions of birds and other animals.
The discovery of the human impression has left MacDonald particularly puzzled and not he or anyone who has seen and studied the impression has not been able to explain how this modern footprint could have been located in the Permian strata, which according to scholars dates from 290 to 248 million years, a time period which occurred long before man or even birds and dinosaurs existed on this planet, of course, that is according to modern science and scientific thinking.
EFO
9th February 2017, 07:33
After the "cart tracks" there is this
http://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/290-million-year-old-footprint-Ancient-Code.jpg
290 million year old human footprint..
The discovery of the 290 million year old footprint was made in New Mexico by paleontologist Jerry MacDonald in 1987. In the vicinity of this mysterious footprint there are fossilized impressions of birds and other animals.
The discovery of the human impression has left MacDonald particularly puzzled and not he or anyone who has seen and studied the impression has not been able to explain how this modern footprint could have been located in the Permian strata, which according to scholars dates from 290 to 248 million years, a time period which occurred long before man or even birds and dinosaurs existed on this planet, of course, that is according to modern science and scientific thinking.
And a "younger" one (200 millions years) from South Africa.Doing math is a 90/42 millions year of civilzation.How old is "our" civilization accordin to science?
2:59 min by Michael Tellinger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuxw-nZoJw
Bill Ryan
12th February 2017, 12:55
More about stones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmCOFm0nTn0
:bump:
Recommending this fascinating Russian video, which has a very competent English narrative translation.
It presents overwhelming evidence that high-technology tools, akin to cutting and grinding wheels, were used to work ancient stones. Some of these were clearly huge, but it's shown how occasionally errors were made, as if the tool slipped a little, or strayed from a straight line.
Evidence is also shown how some stones were softened or 'plasticized', using some totally unknown technology. Many readers will be aware of all this, but the visual evidence presented on camera, almost continually through the film, from sites all over the world, is fascinating and compelling.
EFO
12th February 2017, 20:21
Evidence is also shown how some stones were softened or 'plasticized', using some totally unknown technology. Many readers will be aware of all this, but the visual evidence presented on camera, almost continually through the film, from sites all over the world, is fascinating and compelling.
An other interesting technology could be found at 20:49 mark and an effect could be heard (better with headphone,the best with a 7.1 audio system) at 23:16 mark . :)
59:31 min
Lost Ancient Technology Of Egypt Before The Pharaohs: Part 2 Of 2 by Brien Foerster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfC_75LJzro&t=170s
49:28 min
Lost Ancient High Technology Of Egypt Before The Pharaohs Part 1 by Brien Foerster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmWum2RKwW0&t=1546s
Foxie Loxie
13th February 2017, 01:01
What a treat to get to visit all those places in Egypt & see things close up! :sherlock: Thanks, EFO! :highfive:
uzn
15th February 2017, 23:07
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah82/skywizard11/toycar2_zpsnheuqegt.jpg?1486960464978&1486960465812
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah82/skywizard11/toycar_zpsu9veblkn.jpg?1486960464976&1486960465811
Could This 7500-Year-Old Discovery Be The Earliest Evidence
Of The Wheel?
Hummmmmmm.......
http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/p/peace/graphics-peace-740037.gifpeace...
Butmir culture existed in Butmir, near Ilidža, Bosnia and Herzegovina, dating from the Neolithic period. It is characterized by its unique pottery, and is one of the best researched European cultures from 5100–4500 BC.[1][2] It was part of the larger Danube civilization.
The Butmir culture was discovered in 1893, when Austro-Hungarian authorities began construction on the agricultural college of the University of Sarajevo. The finds caused interest among archaeologists worldwide. They were largely responsible for the International Congress of Archaeology and Anthropology being held in Sarajevo in August 1894. The most impressive finds were the unique ceramics, which are now found in the National Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
https://vieilleeurope.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/131.jpg
https://ancientarchives.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/the-3500-year-old-dupljaja-chariot-serbia.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/96/21/3a/96213aae9847bfc38b3c47a45af0cf8c.jpg
Foxie Loxie
15th February 2017, 23:28
Is it my imagination, or are the heads on these persons like the ones in the Horyu-ji Temple in Japan & the ones found in Al Ubaid, Iraq? Of course, one can't help but notice the swatzika as well! Thanks for posting these!
conk
17th February 2017, 17:37
Some of the mystery may be solved by watching the videos about the gentleman who built the large stone structures at Coral Castle in Florida. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=coral+castle+florida
There is some very compelling evidence in a few of these videos. One has our good friend Graham Hancock (or Christopher Dunn - always get them mixed up) providing his take on such feats. Obviously there were methods that are just beyond the grasp of 99% of us.
Sound is used today to levitate very light objects in laboratory settings. It's not a huge stretch to imagine lost technology that may have been employed in lifting or moving much larger objects. And there are many stories of monks or indigenous groups moving stones with horns. What was the story in the Bible, blow the trumpets and the walls came tumbling down?
Inversion
25th October 2023, 21:55
This four-part series by Hugh Newman covers the megalithic site in Baalbek, Lebanon. The site dates back some 7,000 years. Yousef Awyan (https://www.youtube.com/@brienfoerster/search?query=yusuf) is in it and also in videos in Egypt with Brien Foerster.
Part#1 (04/02/18)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0P3jSOY4-w
Part#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmFYmFYejd4
Part#3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vee3g_LGmjc
Part#4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrPlrwuBiJk
Bill Ryan
25th October 2023, 22:57
Do see this fascinating thread as well:
Gigantic Unfinished Stone Structures: the Yangshan Quarry in China (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96911-Gigantic-Unfinished-Stone-Structures-the-Yangshan-Quarry-in-China)
Some of the giant blocks there are much larger than the Baalbek stones, hard as that may be to believe. One weighs over 16,000 tons.
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