Trump: The Great American Reset

[turiya]

The Grey Champion and the Fourth Turning (http://dougtjaden.com/grey-champion-fourth-turning/)
I had planned to write this week about the role technology will play in the coming Reset. However, sometimes you come across an article that explains something important and you simply must pass it on. Part 1 of this article fits the bill. The rise of a “grey champion” during The Fourth Turning has significant implications for the Great American Reset.


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Please do not construe my passing on this article as some form of “doom and gloom” forecast. Part 1 is a very good summary of our present situation and that is why I am recommending it. Part 2 identifies many of the challenges we face. However, the author of this article believes a dark outcome is our only option and frames those challenges as insurmountable. I don’t agree. However, we also have to be realistic in that some of it isn’t outside of the realm of possiblity.

I read The Fourth Turning (http://www.fourthturning.com/) several years ago. As it says in this article,

“The saecular winter [Fourth Turning] can hurry or wait, but history warns that it will surely be upon us.” It may be short or long, harsh or mild. A lot of that depends on how we respond.

So… what is the Fourth Turning?

“This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”
Sound familiar?

This is another way of describing the Great American Reset.

The article points out that the rise of “The Grey Champion” occurs just as the Fourth Turning enters its crisis phase. Please don’t dismiss the election of Trump in this context. It’s explains a great deal about the cycles of history and how they are repeating before our very eyes.

If you read Part 2, please know that I firmly believe that working together, we can change the weather and shorten the winter.
The Grey Champion Assumes Command (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/19/grey-champion-assumes-command-part-one/)

[turiya]

X22 Report update on Trump's Travel Ban.... Fake Polls... Filing Lawsuits Funded by Soros... Trump's Voter Fraud Probe moving forward...


Truth Bombs Are Exploding All Over The Place
Leaving The Media & Elite Scrambling Like Chickens
Episode 1197b
(Published on Feb 6, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoI1tcMWyks___________________________

Everything Is Almost In Place, The
Economic Crisis Is About To Begin
Episode 1198a
(Published on Feb 7, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXzBPVcBSPo___________________________

[Fellow Aspirant]

“This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”

Sound familiar? "

More than familiar. It's blindingly obvious that the winter is now upon America, and that there is hope that after the Great Orange One lays all of its institutions to waste, the citizens will find common cause and rebuild their once beautiful country.

Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!

B.

[turiya]

“This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”

Sound familiar? "

More than familiar. It's blindingly obvious that the winter is now upon America, and that there is hope that after the Great Orange One lays all of its institutions to waste, the citizens will find common cause and rebuild their once beautiful country.

Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!
B.

The "Grey Champion" isn't necessarily just one individual, it could be more than one, it could be a group... One thing is that whoever it is, will appear to be against the status quo.

By the way, I've heard Bernie now praises Donald Trump for his ability to win the election. Note the New York Post Headline / Article below...


Bernie Sanders heaps praise on Donald Trump (http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/bernie-sanders-heaps-praise-on-donald-trump/) -- NY Post

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FOURTH TURNING: CRISIS OF TRUST
PART 2 (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/09/14/fourth-turning-crisis-of-trust-part-2/)
In Part 1 (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/09/10/fourth-turning-crisis-of-trust/) of this article I discussed the catalyst spark which ignited this Fourth Turning and the seemingly delayed regeneracy. In Part 2 I will ponder possible Grey Champion prophet generation leaders who could arise during the regeneracy.


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The nearly seven year reign of Barack Obama has resulted in furthering wealth inequality, in spite of his socialistic rhetoric. Notwithstanding his Nobel Peace Prize, military spending is at all-time highs and we are engaged in actual and proxy wars across the Middle East and in the Ukraine. Race relations have never been worse. Poverty levels have never been worse. Real median household income is lower than it was in 1989. Real hourly wages are at 50 year lows. Home ownership has plunged to 50 year lows, as middle class workers have been kicked out of their homes and young people are saddled with so much student loan debt and bleak job opportunities they will never have an opportunity to own. The ownership society pushed by Clinton and Bush, with the proliferation of Wall Street created “exotic” subprime mortgages, peddled to people incapable of paying their mortgages, blew up the world in 2008, and the fall out will last for decades.

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Meanwhile, Wall Street banks have reaped $700 billion of ill-gotten profits since 2010 as the Federal Reserve has handed them trillions of interest free funds to gamble with, while rigging the financial markets, and paying their executives obscene bonuses. The hubris and arrogance of the Wall Street titans is appalling, as they buy politicians, write toothless financial regulations (Dodd Frank) for their bought off politicians to pass, report fraudulent financial results with the stamp of approval from the FASB, blatantly rig interest rate, currency, stock and commodities markets, and use deception and propaganda to distract and mislead the public through their corporate media mouthpieces – dependent upon Wall Street advertising revenue to thrive.

And still, Obama has not prosecuted one banker for the largest control fraud in world history, as he assumed the role of useful puppet to the vested financial interests. I’m sure he will be paid handsomely after he leaves office in 2017, just as Bill Clinton, Alan Greenspan, and Ben Bernanke have been richly rewarded by their Deep State benefactors for a job well done.


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Illegal immigrants are pouring over our borders with encouragement from the Obama administration. Obamacare has proven to be a giveaway to health insurance conglomerates, hospital corporations, and drug companies, as insurance costs are driven higher, care deteriorates, and deficits soar ever higher. The welfare state has grown to immense proportions, with 46 million Americans remaining on food stamps, proving the reported unemployment rate of 5.1% to be a fraud. The labor participation rate of 62.6% is at levels last seen in 1977 and far below the 67.1% rate achieved from 1997 through 2000. The politicians and corporate media applaud $600 billion deficits as an achievement, while 10,000 Boomers turning 65 per day is guaranteed to drive future deficits back over $1 trillion per year.

Laurence Kotlikoff, economics professor at Boston University, reveals the truth about our true fiscal mess. Our unfunded liabilities are too damn big and our current deficits are a lie:

“I told them the real (2014) deficit was $5 trillion, not the $500 billion or $300 billion or whatever it was announced to be this year. Almost all the liabilities of the government are being kept off the books by bogus accounting. The government is 58% underfinanced. Social Security is 33% underfinanced. So, the entire government enterprise is in worse fiscal shape than Social Security is, but they are both in terrible shape. So, how much is America on the hook for in the future? If you take all the expenditures that the government is expected to make, as projected by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), all the spending on defense, repairing the roads, paying for the Supreme Court Justices’ salaries, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, everything and take all those expenditures into the future and compare that to all the taxes that are projected to come in, and the difference is $210 trillion. That’s the fiscal gap. That’s our true debt.”
We now know for sure Barack Obama is not the Grey Champion of this Fourth Turning. He has only worsened the three core elements of this Crisis – debt, civic decay, and global disorder. Since his ascension to power, U.S. and global debt has expanded at an astounding rate never seen in world history. Class, race, political and cultural divides have grown to vast proportions. The world is exploding in violence, refugees flooding over borders, civil wars, proxy wars, riots, currency wars and economic depressions caused by U.S. military interventions and monetary policies.

The world is becoming increasingly chaotic and the American people are seeking a leader who can bring order, make tough decisions, and capture the zeitgeist of this moment in history. They are in search of a prophet generation (Boomer) Grey Champion, whose arrival marks the moment of darkness, adversity and peril as the Fourth Turning careens towards its climax. The Grey Champion doesn’t necessarily have to be a good person, but they must lead and display tremendous confidence in their cause and path. Franklin, Lincoln, and FDR have many detractors, but during their Fourth Turnings, they most certainly led, casting aside obstacles (sometimes illegally) and enduring dark days and bleak prospects for success. Is there someone of that stature ready to lead the American people now?


Grey Champion?
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“Americans have always been blind to the next turning until after it fully arrives.

Most of today’s adult Americans grew up in a society whose citizens dreamed of perpetually improving outcomes: better jobs, fatter wallets, stronger government, finer culture, nicer families, smarter kids, all the usual fruits of progress. Today, deep into the Third Turning, these goals feel like they are slipping away. Many of us wish we could rewind time, but we know we can’t – and we fear for our children and grandchildren.

Many Americans wish that, somehow, they could bring back a saecular spring now. But seasons don’t work that way. As in nature, a saecular autumn can be warm or cool, long or short, but the leaves will surely fall. The saecular winter can hurry or wait, but history warns that it will surely be upon us.

We may not wish the Grey Champion to come again – but come he must, and come he will.” – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&) – Strauss & Howe – 1997
When Strauss and Howe wrote these words eighteen years ago, halfway through the Unraveling, the American Dream was already turning into a nightmare. Perpetually improving outcomes have turned into a perpetually declining standard of living for most Americans. Fear for the futures of our children and grandchildren were warranted. Millennials have been lured into and enslaved by $1.3 trillion of student loan debt, left with limited job opportunities and low pay, priced out of the housing market, and handed a $200 trillion bill by their elders. Despite factual data showing that default rates on for-profit student loans were even three times as high as subprime mortgages in the early 2000s, the government took over the student loan market in 2009 and proceeded to dole out $500 billion (taxpayer money) in new debt over the next six years to anyone that could fog a mirror and scribble an X on a loan document.

The criminal enterprises known as for profit colleges such as: University of Phoenix, Corinthian, ITT Tech, Strayer, and Devry, have absconded with the money, provided dreadful education, graduated about 20% of enrollees, and left millions of suckers with billions of debt. With default rates now exceeding 50%, students are angry, demanding relief from their own stupidity. Hard working taxpayers who have struggled to put themselves and their kids through college are angry they will foot the bill for defaults that anyone with a high school diploma could see would happen. Trust in the government’s decision making process and motives have been rightfully shattered.

It is clear the Obama administration purposely enslaved young people in debt to artificially lower the unemployment rate for political purposes. The issuance of colossal amounts of subprime auto loan debt (begun by Ally Financial when it was owned by the Federal government) has also been politically motivated to artificially increase GDP figures and pump up the financial results of the US automakers (GM, Chrysler) saved with taxpayer funds in 2009. There are no free markets left. Everything is manipulated for a political reason or to benefit a particular constituent. The average American pays the price, while the connected .1% are further enriched.


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When young people protested against the true enemies of the people on Wall Street in 2011, they were maced, beaten, tear gassed, trampled by horses and imprisoned by the enforcers of the surveillance police state. The working middle class has seen their real wages stagnate for the last 50 years, as the dollar was unpegged from gold, politicians were free to run up the national debt with no short term consequences, and citizens were turned into consumers through media propaganda, the peddling of debt by Wall Street, and the complete and utter failure of our educational system.

While working class Americans have seen no advancement in their real wages in almost a half century, the cost of their food, energy, education, healthcare, housing, and taxes have risen astronomically. It is no coincidence the Wall Street bankers stepped in to offer prodigious levels of consumer debt in the form of credit card, mortgage and auto loans to allow Americans to pretend their standard of living hasn’t fallen. Excessive levels of debt leads to excessive profits for the moneyed interests. The last 35 years have been a grand national delusion.


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Trust in the economic system, financial markets, political parties, mainstream media, and generational social contract has been destroyed. Rampant irresponsible fraud, abuse, deception, and deceit by the moneyed interests, lackey politicians, their government apparatchiks, media mouthpieces, and legal system have shattered the illusion the establishment is looking out for your best interests. The revelations by Edward Snowden of illegal mass surveillance, militarization of local police forces, military exercises in US cities, attempts to roll back the 2nd Amendment, and trying to control the internet has revealed the true nature of the corporate fascist state. The disintegration of trust began slowly after 9/11 but accelerated rapidly over the last three years. Our leaders have done the exact opposite of what needed to be done after 2008. Everything they have implemented has failed. The average American is worse off than they were in 2009 at the depths of the recession.

The highly educated, white collar, sociopath masters of the universe have captured the levers of power in this country. The world is enthralled and mesmerized by a gray haired academic troll-like figure who will ascend her monetary throne and pronounce whether her and her fellow central bank lackeys will raise an obscure inconsequential interest rate from 0% to .25%. This is nothing but a meaningless diversion as her owners (Wall Street banks), their corporate brethren, captured politicians, pliable judiciary, and media mouthpieces rig the financial markets to enrich themselves while impoverishing the masses and drowning current and future generations in un-payable debt. Harry Markopolos, who uncovered Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme, while the SEC and criminal co-conspirator Wall Street bankers willfully ignored the blatant easily identifiable fraud, captures the essence of why trust in our economic, financial, regulatory, political, judicial and journalistic systems has collapsed:


“Government has coddled, accepted, and ignored white collar crime for too long. It is time the nation woke up and realized that it’s not the armed robbers or drug dealers who cause the most economic harm, it’s the white collar criminals living in the most expensive homes who have the most impressive resumes who harm us the most. They steal our pensions, bankrupt our companies, and destroy thousands of jobs, ruining countless lives.” – Harry Markopolos, Congressional Testimony
The men who retain the levers of power are the same men who were in command when the Crisis struck in 2008. They are even more powerful and rich today than prior to the financial collapse provoked by their unbridled greed and avarice. They believed they could engineer a recovery by promoting confidence in the Wall Street banks through the issuance of prodigious amounts of debt to solve a crisis caused by too much debt. Total debt outstanding in the U.S. rose from $52 trillion in 2009 to $59 trillion today, at the behest of the government and their Federal Reserve cohorts.

While rational thinking Americans have continued to pay down their mortgage debt and reduce credit card usage, the Federal government through their insolvent (if using mark to market accounting) entities Fannie and Freddie, along with their monopoly on student loan issuance, and their massive deficit spending, have accounted for more than 100% of the $7 trillion increase. Total global debt approaches $230 trillion, up approximately $70 trillion since the crisis began.


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The mood change in the country is palpable as economic misery besets the middle class; race wars break out in urban ghettos across the land; push back against the police state intensifies; distrust of a rigged financial system keeps people out of the market; young people are priced out of the housing market by Wall Street price manipulation; productive good paying jobs dwindle; government bureaucrats prove themselves inept at everything they attempt; illegal immigrants pour over the southern border overwhelming the social safety net when it is already stretched thin; and faith in both political parties is close to zero. The regeneracy has been delayed, but this has allowed the anger, bitterness, and dismay with the government to grow to staggering proportions. The country is growing desperate for someone to lead. Ignoring the debt, civic decay and global disorder is no longer acceptable. It’s time for someone to step forward and tell the people the truth.


“Soon after the catalyst, a national election will produce a sweeping political realignment, as one faction or coalition capitalizes on a new public demand for decisive action. Republicans, Democrats, or perhaps a new party will decisively win the long partisan tug of war. This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice. Where leaders had once been inclined to alleviate societal pressures, they will now aggravate them to command the nation’s attention. The regeneracy will be solidly under way.” – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&) – Strauss & Howe – 1997
The Grey Champion is likely to be elevated through an election, but it isn’t a requirement. Ben Franklin and Samuel Adams were the intellectual and firebrand Grey Champions of the American Revolution. They inspired the revolutionaries through writings and oratory. Lincoln and FDR were elected Grey Champions, but Lincoln only won 40% of the popular vote in a four way race, while FDR won in a landslide with 57% of the vote over Hoover. It was clear Lincoln didn’t have a mandate, as Southern states began seceding after his election. No one can argue Franklin, Adams, Lincoln or FDR united everyone in a common cause. They actually aggravated the societal pressures that had been ignored or deferred by their predecessors. Compromise was not an option for these men. They were going to lead based upon their own criteria. You were either with them or against them. And many were against them.

It is widely believed only 20% of colonial Americans were strong supporters of the American Revolution, with 20% Loyalists, and the rest sitting on the fence. Franklin’s own son remained a Loyalist throughout the fight. Half the country departed the Union upon Lincoln’s election and his support in the North was lukewarm at best. Lincoln captured 55% of the vote in the 1864 election, with only northern states voting. Even though FDR won landslide popular vote victories in 1932 and 1936, his detractors and enemies were many. FDR’s confiscation of gold and antagonism toward big business convinced a number of wealthy businessmen to approach General Smedley Butler to lead a coup against FDR and install a fascist regime to run the country. So, it is clear Grey Champions are not universally loved or supported. They have the ability to ignore the complexity of life and focus on one simple imperative: society must prevail.

Until three months ago the 2016 presidential election was in control of the establishment. The Party was putting forth their chosen crony capitalist figureheads – Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. They are hand-picked known controllable entities who will not upset the existing corrupt system. They are equally acceptable to Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve, the military industrial complex, the sickcare industry, mega-corporate America, the moneyed interests, and the never changing government apparatchiks. The one party system is designed to give the appearance of choice, while in reality there is no difference between the policies of the two heads of one party and their candidate products. But now Donald Trump has stormed onto the scene from the reality TV world to tell the establishment – You’re Fired!!!

As Hillary’s crimes and lies catch up to her and Jeb Bush drowns in a sea of irrelevance, low energy, and passionless rhetoric, Trump and Bernie Sanders have surged ahead in the polls. The country is tired of the Clinton and Bush dynasties. They are tired of the existing ruling authority. My initial reaction to Trump’s entering the presidential race was scorn. He’s a bloviating, egocentric, self-promoting, reality TV parody of himself. After seeing him in action for the last three months it has become apparent the country deserves a president like Trump.

He represents everything we’ve become as a nation. Sound bites, no substance, self-involved, boastful, and in constant attack mode are the qualities necessary to lead America today. Facebook twitter nation merits a president like Trump. Bill Clinton playing sax on Arsenio and Obama’s weekly guest appearances on the Daily Show or Jimmy Fallon Show has already tainted and made a mockery of the office of the president.

Trump was born in 1946 putting him in the Boomer Prophet generation, so he fits the mold of Grey Champion from a generational perspective. Hillary and Jeb are also Boomers, with Sanders from the Silent generation. Trump has struck a nerve with a wide swath of middle class America with his anti-illegal immigration rhetoric, disdain for the elitist mainstream media, unflinching assessment of his second string GOP opponents, and exuberant confidence in his own abilities.

Building a wall on our southern border, going after billionaire hedge fund managers, cutting government spending, and negotiating trade deals that don’t ship American jobs overseas, are resonating with fed up households across America. Some polls show Trump with significant support among blacks and Hispanics. The linear thinking supporters of the status quo are flabbergasted and outraged by Trump’s popularity. The ruling classes never anticipate the mood shift of the peasants as they look down on the masses from their gated estates and penthouse suites. The country is looking for someone who can tear down the entire fetid, corrupt, rotting structure.

The moneyed interests are still betting on Hillary or Jeb, but they are getting nervous. There is still time for them to pull the old Ross Perot play by threatening Trump or his family with harm or making him an offer he can’t refuse in financial terms. But, with the Middle East awash in blood, refugees flooding into Europe, China experiencing an epic meltdown, oil producing countries suffering depressions, emerging market economic systems collapsing under the weight of unpayable promises, the Federal Reserve panicked as recession approaches with interest rates at zero bound, and stock, bond and real estate bubbles approaching the inescapable pin, the stars are aligning for a 2nd crisis more perilous and catastrophic than the 2008 catalyst event. The onset of phase two of this Crisis in 2016 will produce a populace more desperate, less trusting of the establishment and likely to turn towards someone like Trump, in despair.

No matter who is elected in November 2016, there is no turning back. Winter is here and Spring is many years away. Grim times will befall the world. The potential for tragic consequences is growing by the day. The storm clouds are gathering on the horizon. There will certainly be famine, chaos, death, destruction, and war. Let’s pray our Grey Champion can lead us through the valley of death to a new High.

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“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0767900464&adid=0VTFPQQFCAV7FYWEMDZT&)
In Part 3 I will try to assess which channels of distress are likely to burst forth with the molten ingredients of this Fourth Turning, and lastly make some educated guesses about potential climaxes.

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/09/14/fourth-turning-crisis-of-trust-part-2/)

[Helene West]

“This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”

Sound familiar? "

More than familiar. It's blindingly obvious that the winter is now upon America, and that there is hope that after the Great Orange One lays all of its institutions to waste, the citizens will find common cause and rebuild their once beautiful country.

Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!

B.

Good joke, lol....

[wnlight]

Donald Trump is attempting to play the part of a "Great American Reset" and yet, he is looking to me to be more and more like more Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc. He is beginning to look like another pick of TPTB. If you have any doubts, just review his cabinet. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that Trump is choosing denizens of the swamp - banksters. Is that what he means by "drain the swamp"?

I still am happy that he won the election because it will take some time for him to build up to the criminal activity level of his predecessors. Sadly, it will take him no time at all to resume/continue the wars of his predecessors, and start new ones.

Perhaps I missed a point. That the "Great American Reset" central to this thread is TPTB which is out to destroy ALL nations of the world. But if they truly succeed, how will America rebuild?

[spacejack]

Bernie was just a broke bum who sold out. trump is the closest thing you have to a hard reset. Control, alt, delete.

[Nikola Tesla]

sorry of topic but so funny and ask anyone its true ;-)
America first Croatia second
VMANy15nYNM

[DNA]

Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!

B.


Please enlighten me if I'm wrong, but Bernie doesn't seem to understand the real state of the nation. I've never heard Bernie talk about what is really going on.
Free college for everyone is not going to fix the globalist agenda aiming for the final piece of the General Wesley Clark Middle East tea set. Even now Trump's secretary of defense James Mattis is quoted as saying that Iran is the greatest threat to the world in so far as Terrorism is concerned. Now Trump has shown a spine in so far as the CIA is concerned. And we may have hope in so far as Trump NOT following suite with Israel and attacking Iran.
The final pieces are in place. There is no way I would have hope right now if Bernie was president. Bernie does not appear to have the guile and understanding to reject the CIA's leash.
We are on the doorstep. We are on the thresh hold of world war III.
We are on the doorstep of the globalist depopulation agenda.
We are on the doorstep to hell on earth.

Bernie was just a broke bum who sold out. trump is the closest thing you have to a hard reset. Control, alt, delete.


I've got to agree with this as well. Bernie knows Hillary stole the election from him, and yet like an idiot he would rather stick with the party line and support Hillary, even though her dishonesty and absolute lack of character is undeniable.
If Bernie is going to stick to the democratic party line even though he was brutally robbed by the DNC then there is no way he would have had the balls to break rank with the CIA.



Donald Trump is attempting to play the part of a "Great American Reset" and yet, he is looking to me to be more and more like more Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc. He is beginning to look like another pick of TPTB. If you have any doubts, just review his cabinet. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that Trump is choosing denizens of the swamp - banksters. Is that what he means by "drain the swamp"?

I disagree wnlight. Trump stomped the life out of the TPP as soon as he had the authority to. Right out the gate. The TPP was the brainchild of Goldman Sachs and JP Mogan CHASE. Goldman Sachs dumped ALL of their money into the Hillary campaign because they KNEW Trump was not their man.
In the NFL teams are always willing to take a player from another team who was cut after training camp, especially if they are in the same division because that player knows the other teams play book. I can't help but to think Trump is doing the same thing here. These people may have aspired to work for the most powerful banking institution in the world, but after having seen how the sausage is made, they may just be willing to help destroy this evil institution.

[turiya]

Donald Trump is attempting to play the part of a "Great American Reset" and yet, he is looking to me to be more and more like more Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc. He is beginning to look like another pick of TPTB. If you have any doubts, just review his cabinet. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that Trump is choosing denizens of the swamp - banksters. Is that what he means by "drain the swamp"?

I still am happy that he won the election because it will take some time for him to build up to the criminal activity level of his predecessors. Sadly, it will take him no time at all to resume/continue the wars of his predecessors, and start new ones.

Perhaps I missed a point. That the "Great American Reset" central to this thread is TPTB which is out to destroy ALL nations of the world. But if they truly succeed, how will America rebuild?
Not sure if you're familiar w/ Joel Skousen, but he would disagree with your assessment that Trump is controlled by the so-called TPTB, or anybody else for that matter. Joel says that all he would need is to spend just 1 hour with Donald Trump to fill him in on what the real situation is...

Just keep in mind... if the system is going to utterly collapse, which includes the international banking cartel, you just might need some of these people to jumpstart another system... perhaps, a system that run differently than one that would eventually crash & burn...

just saying...


Joel Skousen Interview:
"I Would Only Need One Hour with Trump"
(Tuesday January 31st 2017)

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TRUMP VERSUS THE DEEP STATE




As the second week in Donald Trump’s presidency comes to a close, it was inevitable that Trump would run up against some of those elements of the deep state firmly entrenched in government. When he reached out to shut down government employees from tweeting against him, they had a fit. When he instructed them to stop promoting the Climate Change agenda, they threatened to quit, and ran to the media to complain. About 100 statist employees and ambassadors within the State Department refused to serve under Trump or Tillerson, his choice for Secretary of State. Administration bureaucrats announced to the media that Trump would honor Obama’s last minute promise to Australia to bring thousands of Muslim refugees from an Australian island to the USA. Apparently no one consulted Trump who balked. But the biggest threat has come from those within the Defense department and CIA that are still supplying Syrian terrorists with weapons, hoping that Trump won’t stop them. To receive a one-time free sample copy of the brief, email us at editor at worldaffairsbrief.com

[Helene West]

I think DNA and Spacejack are being too kind to Sanders.
I watched him with initial interest and ultimately came to see him as a well remunerated asset to the clinton campaign.
They knew the millenials didn't like clinton and his purpose was to lure them with the freebie heaven on earth socialist rap which he did successfully. After the strong, fiery, wise grandpa figure excites and corrals the young together he completely dumbfounds many by transforming to an old, tired, weak man that didn't have a strategic bone in his body and doesn't confront clinton or demand recounts of the primaries which he could have won.
In the end he turned to his flock and gave them the inevitable coup d'grace - we fought a good fight, now Go vote for clinton. Which I believe was his purpose all along....

What ticks me off additionally is that Sanders could have paved the way for viable third party candidates in this country which we have needed for a long time. He may have been the most successful third party candidate in our history and it was all a hoax.

Sanders was the most cruel of all the candidates.

[turiya]

I think DNA and Spacejack are being too kind to Sanders.
I watched him with initial interest and ultimately came to see him as a well remunerated asset to the clinton campaign.
They knew the millenials didn't like clinton and his purpose was to lure them with the freebie heaven on earth socialist rap which he did successfully. After the strong, fiery, wise grandpa figure excites and corrals the young together he completely dumbfounds many by transforming to an old, tired, weak man that didn't have a strategic bone in his body and doesn't confront clinton or demand recounts of the primaries which he could have won.
In the end he turned to his flock and gave them the inevitable coup d'grace - we fought a good fight, now Go vote for clinton. Which I believe was his purpose all along....

What ticks me off additionally is that Sanders could have paved the way for viable third party candidates in this country which we have needed for a long time. He may have been the most successful third party candidate in our history and it was all a hoax.

Sanders was the most cruel of all the candidates.

Pretty much agree with your assessment of Bernie. Add to that, his overly attachment to the Socialist element. And on top of it, was totally brainwashed with the Global Warming "Fake" Science that was found with so-called "Climate-gate".

The icing on the cake is when I heard him attribute Global Warming as the reason why there is terrorism. In other words, Global Warming created ISIS, al Qaeda, al Nusra... ISIL, etc. That was really showing his true state of logic.... and totally a believer in what the Deep State propaganda machine has been brainwashing people to believe...


Bernie Sanders: 'Climate Change Is Directly
Related To The Growth Of Terrorism'
(Published on Nov 14, 2015)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojFfyQFIINc

And it recently came out that the notion of Global Warming was concocted to take down Capitalism... So, it would not be any wonder why Bernie "The Socialist" Sanders was a Global Warming enthusiastic freak!


U.N. Official Breaks Silence & Admits What's
Really Behind The Global Warming Agenda
(Published on Feb 3, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HlLlD1YPKw

[turiya]

Another x22 Report... I'm getting to really like this news connection...


The World Is Waking Up
And The Elite Do Not Like It
Episode 1198b
(Published on Feb 7, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOdZn0cOM4

[Baby Steps]

It is concerning that Joel Skousen and Steve Bannon think war with China is inevitable. I would like to ask Bannon how does that view qualify him to occupy a governmental position where avoiding that conflict is one of the key priorities....

Hulsman is not optimistic:


Forget Russia: Trump’s China trade war risks breaking Asia’s fragile peace

John Hulsman

Over the past 500 years, when an emerging power (such as China) has collided with a status quo power (such as the US), in 12 of the 16 past cases, the result has been bloodshed (Source: Getty)

“I see myself as an instrument of the Almighty and go on my way, regardless of transient opinions and views.” – Kaiser Wilhelm II, 1910

While he was diabolically poor at follow-through, former President Barack Obama has the makings of a first-rate political risk analyst. Early on in his term, Obama keenly saw that Asia was where most of the future growth in the world would come from, but was also the region where most of the global geopolitical risk lay. This basic insight was the motivation for his ill-starred Pivot to Asia, where the region was to rightly receive more strategic involvement from America.
Risk has been dangerously bubbling up in Asia for two basic reasons. First, and unlike in Europe where Russia is kept at bay and Germany caged, there is no multinational military organisation like Nato that both deters revisionist powers (in this case China) and keeps potentially frightening allies (in this case Japan) on the reservation.

This is largely because of the hugely counter-productive insistence of Japan’s elite to regularly pray at what my staff have come to call “The War Crimes Shrine” at Yasukuni. Japan’s grudging failure to come to terms with its barbarism in World War II has alienated would-be allies such as South Korea, making the formation of a Nato-like organisation to keep the peace – and to keep America’s allies on the same page – impossible.
Second, the rise of China has created a state of being problem in East Asia; the United States is the dominant power there, and the Chinese wish to re-claim their traditional historical dominance in the region. This basic fact – and the obvious tensions that flow from it – can simply not be wished away.

In typical business-like fashion, the Chinese leadership commissioned a study to look at historical examples over the past 500 years of what happened to the world when an emerging power (such as China) collided with a status quo power (such as the US). The doleful conclusion of the Thucydides study – so named for the geopolitical rivalry between Athens and Sparta that ignited the Peloponnesian War – was that, in 12 of the 16 past cases, the result has been bloodshed. Given that historical reality, the structural peril to the present world is so great only a statesman of great ability and subtlety is likely to buck the odds.
Instead of this, we have newly-inaugurated President Donald Trump, who so far has passed his audition to be the neurotic Kaiser Wilhelm of this era with flying colours. Whereas under Obama the US and China increasingly engaged in a strategic competition in East Asia in the South China and East China Seas, Trump seems intent on increasing the danger by adding an obviously harmful trade war to the menu.

Given that – unlike the Cold War where the Soviet and Western economies were strikingly separate – China and the US are inextricably linked economically, this is bound to hurt both countries, and nobble the world’s hopes for decent rates of growth. Beyond even this, it is pouring gasoline on the open fire of the inevitable Chinese-American competition in East Asia, making avoidance of the Thucydides trap infinitely harder.
Far worse still, Trump is heading into his showdown with China having just greatly alienated his many prospective allies in the region, in his breathtakingly counter-productive abrogation of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), an ambitious trade pact that would have welded America economically closer to key allies such as Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Singapore.
Instead, by unilaterally walking away from the meticulously negotiated pact, Trump’s White House has allowed Beijing to whisper the poisonous words to America’s Asian allies, “The US is not to be trusted”.
So in his Wilhelm II audition – a vainglorious bumbler who bluffed the world into an avoidable conflict – Trump seems a cinch for the part. He is taking China on over the wrong issues (macro-economics not geo-strategy), with the wrong balance of power (having just spurned America’s regional allies), at the wrong time (when the world desperately needs all the growth that it can muster).

Under Obama, the US was firm but business-like with China, defending freedom of navigation in the seas there but working with the Chinese where it could, and furthering joint economic links that make it ever harder for Beijing to turn its back (due to its vast economic interests) on an American-dominated order. The results were impressive strategically, with much of East Asia openly and increasingly siding with the US over the neighbourhood bully.
Trump’s Kaiser Wilhelm impersonation throws all this out the window, imperilling America’s favourable strategic position. As was true when Obama came to power, Asia is once again the region in the world to watch, but for far more terrifying reasons.


http://www.cityam.com/257519/forget-russia-trumps-china-trade-war-risks-breaking-asias

[Chester]

I think DNA and Spacejack are being too kind to Sanders.
I watched him with initial interest and ultimately came to see him as a well remunerated asset to the clinton campaign.
They knew the millenials didn't like clinton and his purpose was to lure them with the freebie heaven on earth socialist rap which he did successfully. After the strong, fiery, wise grandpa figure excites and corrals the young together he completely dumbfounds many by transforming to an old, tired, weak man that didn't have a strategic bone in his body and doesn't confront clinton or demand recounts of the primaries which he could have won.
In the end he turned to his flock and gave them the inevitable coup d'grace - we fought a good fight, now Go vote for clinton. Which I believe was his purpose all along....

What ticks me off additionally is that Sanders could have paved the way for viable third party candidates in this country which we have needed for a long time. He may have been the most successful third party candidate in our history and it was all a hoax.

Sanders was the most cruel of all the candidates.

In the Town Hall done a few days ago, a local small business owner (hair salons) told Sanders that she was unable to afford to expand her business to 50 or more employees because of the Obamacare requirement that mandated she supply health insurance to her employees. A mandate that she saw would be unaffordable where she would not only lose any reasonably attractive profit margin, she probably would lose money as a business which, of course, would cause her to either raise her prices and risk losing too many customers or she would have to close or risk failure. She stated that because of this she has intentionally stayed at 5 locations and under the 50 employee threshold despite that she has been successful with her business and knows she could otherwise remain successful in expansion without this draconian mandate. Note: she started out with one location and now had five.

Guess what Sanders said? He essentially stated that his opinion was that it is moral duty of businesses to pay for their employees' healthcare (implying that it is governments duty and responsibility to make sure they do, "because we know the greedy business owners would never do this unless we make them do it." Sanders then added that she was unfairly competing against the larger businesses in her same field by offering a more competitive price implying she was the bad guy!

Small business is the heart and soul of what folks from around the world call "the American Dream."

So let me give a real world example of this - My wife just immigrated legally to the US from Colombia. She is an artist. In Colombia, she was faced with having to sell her paintings without her name on them. She was faced with having to sell the paintings to galleries who put on her art the names of "artists" they were "selling" (some who didn't even actually do art)! They offered her a small amount over her costs of the materials to create the art and yet were selling these pieces of art for over four times what they would pay to Cristina and with someone else's name on the art! This was Cristina's only option in getting her paintings into galleries and she lived in the huge city of Medellin!

At least now and here in the US, she has the ability to create and perhaps sell her art with her own name on it, establish a name for herself which in time might (and clearly as long as her art is appreciated) allow her prices to rise too. We have already found interested parties who are willing to display her art for sale in their shops under her name and for a much fairer commission percentage. We also have found a web designer that is willing to help her create a website for displaying and selling her art, a very small investment on our part to make this happen.

The things that Sanders and the extreme left stand for is to kill the American Dream.

I thank "God" (the Universe, my lucky stars, etc.) every day that at least for now, there's a chance the American Dream, which supports entrepreneurial dynamics, may be restored and preserved as opposed to destroyed as it clearly has been (see turiya's posts).

I also pray its not too late.

[Bruno]

I seem to be constantly on a different page around here.:facepalm:

I won't pretend to have a clue about how Obamacare works (is there a greater burden on the business owner? than in Canada or elsewhere?), but I strongly believe in universal healthcare and I am proud to live in a country that believes in it too.

[Chester]

It's good we all have things we believe in. It's good when what we believe in is acted upon by those we empower to do so.

Here's the latest poll numbers (https://morningconsult.com/2017/02/08/trump-approval-rating-slides-despite-support-travel-ban/) from Morning Consult with regards to many of Trump's EOs -

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I would far prefer they don't much like Trump (His approval rating is 47% to 46% from this same polling company data release), yet approve of what he's already getting done.

Imagine... a President that actually accomplishes what folks want... accomplishes what they actually support... and the above data doesn't even include the daily jobs outlook changing for the good before our very eyes.

Isn't it all about substance?

[turiya]

I seem to be constantly on a different page around here.:facepalm:

I won't pretend to have a clue about how Obamacare works (is there a greater burden on the business owner? than in Canada or elsewhere?), but I strongly believe in universal healthcare and I am proud to live in a country that believes in it too.

All I really know, or have heard, about Obamacare is that its simply a form of tax that squeezes the individual to extract $$$ from. As for businesses, they get hit a tax for going over a certain number of full-time employees. Thus, to avoid such a thing businesses hire more part-time workers. This also makes the jobs stats & unemployment statistics look better for the Ex-President Obama's Legacy that he has touted about so much.

Late Add
For me, I just don't like doctors, I very much try to avoid doctors by taking care of my own health. And because I am self-employed, I don't work for an employer. For a time, I kept receiving forms in the mail that I was suppose to sign & return, but would just promptly throw them in the waste can.

Then, I started receiving Social Security payments (small amounts for the few times I was an employee - paying SS payments). But then, I knew it would come, sooner or later... the government started taking out about $125 each month for Obamacare. Without my choosing... they are just ripping me off. Its the same 'ol ponzi scheme, just comes through the back door. Its a damn tax for growing older!

[turiya]

Clif speaks of the "Awakening Wave"... ATMs / Credit Freeze coming soon ==> mid-March 2017...


Clif High: This Is Not A Drill!
The Economic Crisis Will Start
This Year & Last For 5 Years
(Published on Feb 8, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYFsxfmnmo

[Chester]

All I really know, or have heard, about Obamacare is that its simply a form of tax that squeezes the individual to extract $$$ from. As for businesses, they get hit a tax for going over a certain number of full-time employees. Thus, to avoid such a thing businesses hire more part-time workers. This also makes the jobs stats & unemployment statistics look better for the Ex-President Obama's Legacy that he has touted about so much.

This specific component of Obamacare is -


The ObamaCare Employer Mandate / Employer Penalty, originally set to begin in 2014, was delayed until 2015 / 2016. ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” is a requirement that all businesses with 50 or more full-time equivalent employees (FTE) provide health insurance to at least 95% of their full-time employees and dependents up to age 26, or pay a fee.

This "fee" is penalty, determined to be legal because it was called "a tax."

It is a gun held to the head of small businesses who wish to grow past the 50 full time employee number.

insane - see here (http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-employer-mandate/)

...and yes, the result is that a ton of folks would get 29 hour jobs and thus had to get two just to make it and would be burdened with having to commute to two jobs and would face having nowhere to go in either one! Great idea huh? Thanks Obama.

[turiya]

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'Majority in Leading EU Nations Support
Trump-Style Travel Ban'
Poll of more than 10,000 people in 10
countries...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xS8NRWgAEScGK.jpg

1:46 PM - 8 Feb 2017




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'Trump administration seen as more truthful
than news media'
bit.ly/2k4b0imEmersonPoll (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/318514-trump-admin-seen-as-more-truthful-than-news-media-poll) …

2:07 PM - 8 Feb 2017




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Sen.Richard Blumenthal, who never fought in
Vietnam when he said for years he had (major
lie), now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch
told him?

3:57 AM - 9 Feb 2017






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Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen.
Blumenthal, never asked him about his
long-term lie about his brave "service" in
Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!

5:19 AM - 9 Feb 2017






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Sen. McCain should not be talking about the
success or failure of a mission to the media.
Only emboldens the enemy! He's been losing
so....

5:26 AM - 9 Feb 2017






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...long he doesn't know how to win anymore,
just look at the mess our country is in - bogged
down in conflict all over the place. Our hero..

5:31 AM - 9 Feb 2017






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[Chester]

... and part three of the three part tweet...

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[turiya]

Tom Fitton, President of Judicial Watch weekly update.... Oh look, 'new' Clinton emails [@8:00]... was in D.C. court I believe on Tuesday - will have update tomorrow...


Tom Fitton discussing the left's attack
on Trump, and the rule of law.
(Published on Feb 3, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YekqI32BX4s___________________________

Live updates: 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals
will decide on Trump travel ban TODAY! (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-live-updates-9th-circuit-arguments-trump-travel-ban-2017-htmlstory.html)
(I got a feeling about this :happythumbsup: )

JUDGES
http://www.trbimg.com/img-589a48da/turbine/ct-trump-travel-ban-hearing-20170207/600

________________LATE ADD________________

Court Of Appeals Unanimously Rejects Trump's Travel Ban: Full Ruling (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-09/court-appeals-rules-against-reinstating-trumps-immigration-executive-order)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/trump%20face%203_23.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-09/court-appeals-rules-against-reinstating-trumps-immigration-executive-order)
"We hold that the government has not shown a likelihood of success on the merits of its appeal, nor has it shown that failure to enter a stay would cause irreparable injury, and we therefore deny its emergency motion for a stay."

Feb 9, 2017 6:25 PM
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[Fellow Aspirant]

Well, if your feeling is that the 29 page judgment by three bi-partisan federal judges will be a unanimous and total rejection of Trump's Executive Order, then you'd be correct.

Off we go to the Supreme Court!

B.

[Chester]

Over 80% of the rulings made by the 9th circuit that went to the Supreme Court over the last several years were...

...overturned.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g279/samuelchesterhunter/2017-02-09%20-%20Trump%20Tweet%202_zpssfqj3djh.jpg

[turiya]

Well, if your feeling is that the 29 page judgment by three bi-partisan federal judges will be a unanimous and total rejection of Trump's Executive Order, then you'd be correct.

Off we go to the Supreme Court!
B.

Well, nobody's perfect... And yes, will see you in court!


_________________Late Add_________________

Napolitano On 9th Circuit Ruling:
'Intellectually Dishonest'
(Published on Feb 9, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5l_fOMFBRY

[robinr1]

dave from x22 is great. if you enjoy him might I recommend sgt report as another very quality youtube channel along the same line of thinking





Another x22 Report... I'm getting to really like this news connection...


The World Is Waking Up
And The Elite Do Not Like It
Episode 1198b
(Published on Feb 7, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOdZn0cOM4

[waves]

....
All I really know, or have heard, about Obamacare is that its simply a form of tax that squeezes the individual to extract $$$ from. As for businesses, they get hit a tax for going over a certain number of full-time employees. Thus, to avoid such a thing businesses hire more part-time workers. This also makes the jobs stats & unemployment statistics look better for the Ex-President Obama's Legacy that he has touted about so much......

I suggest you look at the issues stemming from Obamacare through a much bigger lens. It was FOREMOST about deepening the hooks of CONTROL in crucial ways, way besides the financial hooks, and especially, as a major cog in the wheel of the big brother dossier on an individual applying the technological advances now available. I was shocked at all the irrelevant to health personal questions on the Obamacare application, it's a major data mining ploy. The benefits stemming from this crucial information cog to the controllers are monstrous.

Through the connection of all technologies... your personal habits are recorded/tracked through your phone, internet and cable, there are chips in your car, on your license and credit cards (and you if you're vaccinated), the 'smart' meters are tracking far more than your electricity and gas - but those patterns alone are revealing, your finances are tracked with the IRS, and then the big cog - your health, dna, vaccine history and family history are now also tied in with the data entered on you through forced Obamacare - all in one big dossier containing EVERYTHING with your name anywhere near it.

This is very, very dangerous in the wrong hands. A lot is now inescapable if you want to live in society, but the less you can contribute the better. At least Trump is proposing taking the mandatory enrollment out.

[Helene West]

Re: the ruling

While our indoctrinated and excitable left continue their war against their Bogeyman the rest of us monitor for signs to assess just how entrenched globalist representatives have been planted in our country/government.

The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman.

[Helene West]

Waves
Thank you for bringing up the subject of Smart Meters. most appliances today are smart chipped, capable of being activated or shut off remotely. There's still enough folks who will resist that degree of control but obviously there is a belief amongst the ruling class who have ordered this technology roll-out that they intend us to be that controlled. There are parts of the country where the utility company comes accompanied by someone in law enforcement to insist the homeowner get the smart meter.

So many don't understand that RATIONING will be a large part of the (new and improved) world order. If the left gain ascendency they will acquiesce to this type of control. That is when their identity politics will be used against them/us. If the masses, and this includes everyone, whites and non-whites, don't acquiesce to the rationing of resources (electricity, water, food) they could be accused of acting like Privileged White people who selfishly don't care about nature and other people, blah, blah, and you don't want to act like them, lol!! I have no doubt there will be a big irony to identity politics down the road in forcing various control techniques.

People take flicking an electric switch for granted, running water for granted.... The guy about whom the movie The Big Short was largely created (played by Christian Bale) only has ONE asset he now invests in - Water. Why is that?

[Fellow Aspirant]

"The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman."

Some day, SOME DAY, Trump supporters will have the scales fall from their eyes and realize that their 'champion' has sold them out to the moneyed interests of globalism. When the legions of 'plundermonkeys' (Steven King's term) have destroyed the environment, driven the lower classes into destitution with slave wages and unaffordable health care and when only the children of the rich are able to attend decent schools, there will come a time - a "What have we done?" moment of horrified awareness. Then and only then will America be prepared to come together and start the rebirth of their stricken nation.

Right now, the Trump supporters are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their 'champion'.

B.

[turiya]

dave from x22 is great. if you enjoy him might I recommend sgt report as another very quality youtube channel along the same line of thinking



The World Is Waking Up
And The Elite Do Not Like It
Episode 1198b
(Published on Feb 7, 2017)
video= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOdZn0cOM4

Will take you up on that, Helene...


2017: The Year of TRUTH BOMBS -- Bill Holter
(Published on Feb 5, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz8HOEJCD3k

[Helene West]

"The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman."

Some day, SOME DAY, Trump supporters will have the scales fall from their eyes and realize that their 'champion' has sold them out to the moneyed interests of globalism. When the legions of 'plundermonkeys' (Steven King's term) have destroyed the environment, driven the lower classes into destitution with slave wages and unaffordable health care and when only the children of the rich are able to attend decent schools, there will come a time - a "What have we done?" moment of horrified awareness. Then and only then will America be prepared to come together and start the rebirth of their stricken nation.

Right now, the Trump supporters are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their 'champion'.

B.

so obsessed with a bogeyman, so viciously focused on personality - The left is like reacting to a person walking their dog, the dog takes a poop on their property so you shoot the dog owner. Whatever stupid things bogeyman said initially the reaction of the left has been 100x worse. Complete overreaction and Overkill, and overkill is always mental instability.

So many who voted for trump, did so hesitantly, not having any other choice other than to continue voting for the end of the american republic, which the left has been self-destructively fashioning for decades, including both witting and unwitting destroyers. I wish I had a 'champion' as you put it. He was a gamble that I still don't regret and still has much to reveal. If he is being totally controlled that remains to be seen but we already know what is controlling the left. If the left succeeds in assisting the globalists to end america for their new world that remains to be seen as well.

The non-left monitors the actions of the international ruling class, the left obediently obsesses over a bogeyman.

[Ewan]

Waves
Thank you for bringing up the subject of Smart Meters. most appliances today are smart chipped, capable of being activated or shut off remotely. There's still enough folks who will resist that degree of control but obviously there is a belief amongst the ruling class who have ordered this technology roll-out that they intend us to be that controlled. There are parts of the country where the utility company comes accompanied by someone in law enforcement to insist the homeowner get the smart meter.

So many don't understand that RATIONING will be a large part of the (new and improved) world order. If the left gain ascendency they will acquiesce to this type of control. That is when their identity politics will be used against them/us. If the masses, and this includes everyone, whites and non-whites, don't acquiesce to the rationing of resources (electricity, water, food) they could be accused of acting like Privileged White people who selfishly don't care about nature and other people, blah, blah, and you don't want to act like them, lol!! I have no doubt there will be a big irony to identity politics down the road in forcing various control techniques.

People take flicking an electric switch for granted, running water for granted.... The guy about whom the movie The Big Short was largely created (played by Christian Bale) only has ONE asset he now invests in - Water. Why is that?

What Is Michael Burry Doing Today? Jan 5 2016 (https://www.bustle.com/articles/133631-what-is-michael-burry-doing-today-the-big-short-character-is-still-weary-of-the-financial)


"Fresh, clean water cannot be taken for granted. And it is not — water is political, and litigious. Transporting water is impractical for both political and physical reasons, so buying up water rights did not make a lot of sense to me, unless I was pursuing a greater fool theory of investment — which was not my intention. What became clear to me is that food is the way to invest in water. That is, grow food in water-rich areas and transport it for sale in water-poor areas. This is the method for redistributing water that is least contentious, and ultimately it can be profitable, which will ensure that this redistribution is sustainable. A bottle of wine takes over 400 bottles of water to produce — the water embedded in food is what I found interesting."

[turiya]

What is wrong with the 9th Circuit Ruling? ...According to the Constitution (which is the true Champion for The People)....


Jay Sekulow outlines problems
with travel ban court ruling
(Published on Feb 9, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M38FBIE12E_____________________________

Stephen Miller: Travel ban
is lawful and necessary
(Published on Feb 8, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns0JdlYKz14_____________________________

Sekulow, Bondi talk legality
of temporary travel ban
(Published on Feb 8, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWI6_SiW_-M_____________________________

Why the president has the authority
to put the ban in place
(Published on Feb 7, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0m4rUQMzgs________________Late Add________________

[wnlight]

"In the NFL teams are always willing to take a player from another team who was cut after training camp, especially if they are in the same division because that player knows the other teams play book. I can't help but to think Trump is doing the same thing here. These people may have aspired to work for the most powerful banking institution in the world, but after having seen how the sausage is made, they may just be willing to help destroy this evil institution."

DNA, Your statement, above, is the most optimistic that I have ever read on any PM posting. I certainly hope that you are correct. I had supported Trump only because Clinton is far worse. What little hope I had for Trump evaporated when I saw his Goldman Sachs picks for his cabinet. Also, Trump seems to be in love with Netanyahoo. (Misspelling on purpose.) Now we must be concerned about a Trump war on Iran.

[turiya]

"The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman."

Some day, SOME DAY, Trump supporters will have the scales fall from their eyes and realize that their 'champion' has sold them out to the moneyed interests of globalism. When the legions of 'plundermonkeys' (Steven King's term) have destroyed the environment, driven the lower classes into destitution with slave wages and unaffordable health care and when only the children of the rich are able to attend decent schools, there will come a time - a "What have we done?" moment of horrified awareness. Then and only then will America be prepared to come together and start the rebirth of their stricken nation.

Right now, the Trump supporters are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their 'champion'.

B.

Your writing... this, shows in what you speak. It shows a blissful unawareness, or better to say - a forgetfulness (like so many), that the True Champion of the American people is the Constitution... it has been undermined & subjugated by the False song of Globalism...

Oh, but I see you are but a Canadian, a closer colony of the Commonwealth 'Queen'... the Queen of Globalism... Canada only lay in the shadow of America... in the shadow of an American Constitution... as such, your viewing this Great American Reset from the bleacher seats of a globalist stadium... I would suggest to your Justin Trudeau to be wary of the Sauron in George Soros who he has welcomed into your nation with open arms...

I would suggest to you: Turn your eyes upon your own nation, rather than cast judgement as to what is taking place below your southern border.


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The Sauron, George Soros
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Trump: I will not surrender Americanism
to the false song of globalism.
(Published on Apr 27, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOyma_8dFm0

[turiya]

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[turiya]

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Video News Release: Chris Farrell Soundbites/Transcripts
On the Issue of Voter Fraud
FEBRUARY 10, 2017
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch will host a special educational panel on Thursday, February 16, 2017, from 12 noon to 1 pm ET to discuss “The Voter Fraud Crisis.” The panel will be shot live in studio with a nationwide feed. Expert panelists will address the voter fraud and election integrity debate.

A key member of the panel is Chris Farrell who is the director of investigations and research, and has been a member of the Board of Directors since September 2003. Chris served as a Military Intelligence Officer – specializing in Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence. He is a specialist in national security matters, specializing in unconventional warfare and terrorism.

Cut One:

Take-Away: “Voter fraud and voter registration fraud are real. It’s proven both statistically by sampling data from voter registration numbers and census numbers. There’s one county in Mississippi that has 240% more people registered to vote than actually live there.” [25 seconds]



Chris Farrell: 'Voter fraud and
voter registration fraud are real'
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CFHeMLVk1g__________________________________Cut Two:

Take-Away: “Interestingly, we’ve had to fight the Obama administration concerning voter integrity. We have also had to sue sitting Republican secretaries of state. So in Indiana and Ohio, we filed lawsuits because Republican secretaries of state and Republican voting administrators weren’t terribly interested in coming up with a plan because it’s real work. You have to go in – and they are not well staffed and they might not be well funded – but they have got to go in and go through the rolls, and find duplicates, find people, and if you are looking at dates of birth and you have someone who is listed on the rolls as 115, they probably are not a legitimate voter, they probably should have been removed.” [52 seconds]


Chris Farrell: 'We have also had to sue
sitting Republican secretaries of state'
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87jfhmN6kVY__________________________________

Cut Three:

Take-Away: “There’s two parts of the national voter registration act. Section 7 talks about going out and registering everybody who’s eligible – that’s a good thing – it casts a wide net. Because we want to make sure there is a lot of participation and that if you are eligible to vote you should go out and vote. Section 8 though – right behind that – says that the secretaries of state and the county officials and voter registration offices must purge their voter rolls, check them, and make sure they are complete and accurate. In large part you see a lot of folks on the left are very excited about Section 7 of the law, they are not too excited about Section 8. They are not interested in having complete and accurate voter rolls. They just want everyone under the sun to get out and vote. But to really have some integrity to the process, to really have confidence in our voting system, you need to go out and try and enroll everyone that is eligible but in the very same breathe you need to make sure the voter rolls themselves are accurate, true and correct.” [1:19]


Chris Farrell: 'There’s two parts of the
national voter registration act'
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URDEQ_hoO8

[turiya]

An Alleged Muslim Spy Ring –
Why Rex Tillerson Was Right
To Clean House (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/10/an-alleged-muslim-spy-ring-why-rex-tillerson-was-right-to-clean-house/#more-143011)
Originally Posted at
Free Market Shooter (http://fmshooter.com/alleged-muslim-spy-ring-rex-tillerson-right-clean-house/)

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Shortly after Trump took office, and before Rex Tillerson was even confirmed as Secretary of State (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-confirmed.html), a slew of State Department officials were removed from their positions (or were forced to resign) as part of an effort to “clean house” at the State Department. The whole affair was haphazardly covered by the media, especially by Jeff Bezos’s blog (http://fmshooter.com/wapo-finally-issues-half-ass-retraction-just-time-hillary-jump-fake-news-debate/), which insinuated that the departures were (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/?utm_term=.19bd8e72b597) “an ongoing mass exodus of senior Foreign Service officers who don’t want to stick around for the Trump era.”

Further analysis revealed that the officials were actually removed from their positions (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-26/entire-senior-management-team-state-department-just-resigned) shortly after Tillerson visited the State Department office in Foggy Bottom prior to his confirmation:

“Any implication that that these four people quit is wrong,” one senior State Department official said. “These people are loyal to the secretary, the President and to the State Department. There is just not any attempt here to dis the President. People are not quitting and running away in disgust. This is the White House cleaning house.”
And, just a few weeks after the fact, it appears we know why Tillerson was so quick to purge existing staffers: he just didn’t trust them. It also appears his mistrust was more than justified.

On January 29th, United States Special Forces executed an operation inside Yemen, against al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), with the aim of gathering intelligence and killing leaders of the group. The raid was planned under the Obama administration, but the decision to execute the raid was “punted” to Trump (http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/03/former-obama-staffer-its-b-s-to-say-obama-approved-yemen-raid/), using the pretext of waiting for a “low loom” (moonless) night to execute the raid with maximum secrecy:

While the operation had been proposed, it was never green-lighted. Kahl said Obama felt going the mission would mark a “significant escalation” in Yemen and should be left to the next administration to decide.

“Obama … believed this represented a significant escalation of U.S. involvement in Yemen, and therefore … thought the next administration should take a careful look and run a careful process,” he told the WSJ.
In addition, defense officials expected the Trump administration to be more willing to approve dangerous missions (https://www.stripes.com/news/us/in-deadly-yemen-raid-a-lesson-for-trump-team-1.451862), something that was almost certainly known by any remaining personnel who stayed on after Obama left office:

While seemingly indicative of a more aggressive stance by Trump, one official described the raid and new proposal as an outgrowth of earlier Obama-era operations that have pushed al-Qaida militants from their sanctuaries into areas and provided more opportunities for U.S. strikes.
“We expect an easier approval cycle [for operations] under this administration,” another defense official said.

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Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens

Though the Trump administration attempted to push the raid as a success, at very best, the mission was anything but, resulting in the death of Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens, as well as injuries to three other servicemen. While the commandos did everything necessary to maintain the element of surprise, it appears as though AQAP adversaries on the ground had advance warning of the attack (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-went-wrong-inside-yemen-seal-raid-n716216):

“Initial reports are always wrong, but it doesn’t appear to be a failure of planning or intelligence,” said the former special forces officer.

Almost immediately, the raiding force on the ground took intense fire, according to the briefing paper and a senior military official. Occupants of the targeted house and its compound, along with their guard force, moved to a separate cluster of houses nearby where families, including women and children, were staying. Armed women fired on the U.S. and Emirati forces.

“There were a lot of female combatants who were part of this,” said Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, the Pentagon’s chief spokesman, on Monday. “We saw during this operation, as it was taking place, that female fighters ran to pre-established positions — as though they had trained to be ready, and trained to be combatants — and engaged with us.”
While most know about the Yemen raid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakla_raid#cite_note-14), most do not know about the dismissal of the three Aman brothers, Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan. On February 2nd, they were abruptly removed from their positions of managing information technology for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Though they were initially suspected merely of stealing equipment, a connection with the previously-hacked computers of Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/14/the-cascading-blunders-of-the-dnc-fbi-and-white-house-invited-hacking/) (D-FL) revealed something far more sinister (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/):

Three members of the intelligence panel and five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs were among the dozens of members who employed the suspects on a shared basis. The two committees deal with many of the nation’s most sensitive issues and documents, including those related to the war on terrorism.
As Mad World News reported (http://madworldnews.com/trump-obama-muslim-navy-seal/), the Aman brothers were hired by the Obama administration, and access to top secret information regarding military operations (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/). The committees they allegedly worked for had access to “the most sensitive and secretive government intelligence, including covert anti-terrorism activity… including the Yemen operation”:


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The House Oversight Committee

The brothers were assigned access to three members of the intelligence panel and five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs along with dozens of congressmen who employed the suspects on a shared basis. This gave them direct access to our military secrets, like missions carried out by Navy SEAL Team Six.

They retained their jobs after Obama left, which is not unheard of since their positions were not seen as political appointments. However, they were fired by Trump’s administration within hours after Navy SEAL William Ryan Owens was killed in Yemen during the top secret raid on Al-Qaeda operatives.
So, in case you’ve gotten lost, here’s a recap of the timeline of events:


Jan 20 – Trump takes office, and DoD officials are expecting him to be more willing to approve dangerous missions
Jan 26 – Rex Tillerson visits State Department headquarters prior to his confirmation, and either terminates or forces the resignation of many existing State Department personnel
Jan 29 – The botched Yemen raid is executed, resulting in the death of Navy SEAL Owens
Feb 1 – Rex Tillerson is confirmed by President Trump as Secretary of State
Feb 2 – The Awan brothers are terminated on suspicion that they accessed congressional computers without permission

As Mad World News previously stated...

“…it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to connect the dots. The firing of the Awan brothers is linked to the Yemen raid where al-Qaeda knew we were coming, and it tragically ended with Navy SEAL Owens being killed in action.”
The mainstream media seemed far more interested in obfuscating the details regarding the Tillerson terminations than they were in covering what could be one of the most dangerous intelligence leaks in years, of which there has been but a peep out of any major news outlet. Captain Joseph R. John (Navy-Ret.) has stated that he believes the Muslim Brotherhood “fifth column” has “infiltrated U.S. Government,” (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/30/capt-joseph-john-muslim-brotherhood-fifth-column-infiltrated-u-s-government/) and if he is correct, the Awan brothers could very well be a part of this infiltration.

Yet, there as been but a peep of information about the Awan brothers from nearly all major news outlets. Are they in jail? What are they accused of? Does the Trump administration suspect them of leaking details about military operations to terrorist organizations? And most importantly, if so, did these three men directly or indirectly contribute to the death of Owens during the Yemen raid?

One thing is for certain – as Politico seemed to take delight in stating (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-aides-distrust-confusion-leaks-234550), “Trying to nail down who the leakers are is like trying to count the cockroaches under the couch.” However, it seems most of the “leaks” are coming from Obama holdovers. Which makes Tillerson’s “cleaning house” look like not just the correct move, it leaves you wondering if he did enough cleaning house.

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Just don’t expect to hear that from the mainstream media anytime soon.

SOURCE (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/10/an-alleged-muslim-spy-ring-why-rex-tillerson-was-right-to-clean-house/#more-143011)

[turiya]

Trump Says New Immigration Action Coming: "You'll Be Seeing Something Next Week" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/trump-reportedly-redrafting-travel-ban-executive-order-after-9th-circuit-defeat)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/Trump%20Exec%20Order_0.JPG (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/trump-reportedly-redrafting-travel-ban-executive-order-after-9th-circuit-defeat)
"We’ll be doing something very rapidly having to do with additional security for our country; you’ll be seeing that sometime next week"

Feb 10, 2017 1:59 PM



_________________Late Add_________________

One may well wonder if 'The Donald' has listened to another Judge as to what his next move should be....


Judge Napolitano to Trump: Rescind the
executive order, issue a new one
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwyrbjFiJlc_________________Later Late Add_________________


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Source: MichaelPRamirez.com (http://michaelpramirez.com/index.html)

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Jason Chaffetz Utah Town Hall Disrupted By Swarm Of Angry Protesters - "Do Your Job" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/jason-chaffetz-utah-town-hall-disrupted-swarm-angry-protesters-do-your-job)

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A Town Hall meeting hosted by the Chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Jason Chaffetz, in his home state of Utah last night came under attack from a mob of angry liberals demanding that he "Do His Job."

Feb 10, 2017 1:25 PM


Chaffetz Accuses Paid Protesters Of Being "Shipped In" To Cause Chaos At Republican Townhalls (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-11/jason-chaffetz-accuses-paid-protesters-being-shipped-disrupt-republican-townhalls)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/chaffetz%20teaser.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-11/jason-chaffetz-accuses-paid-protesters-being-shipped-disrupt-republican-townhalls)
Jason Chaffetz said the protesters who disrupted his Thursday town hall were a group of "shipped in" professional protesters, "a paid attempt to bully and intimidate." He noted that "you could see it online a couple days before, a concerted effort in part to just cause chaos."

Feb 11, 2017 1:50 PM



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[turiya]

Stefan Molyneux, a very astute, keen, intellectual type of individual, offers his take on Trump's Travel Suspension Executive Order... and, his statement about all the particle physiciologists from Somalia that are prevented from entering the U.S. to go to school has me falling off my chair... lol...


Court Ignores Law, Affirms Ban on
President Trump’s Immigration Restrictions
True News
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRjz56wtkF8___________________________

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Judges Keep Falsely Saying No Terrorists
Came From Countries Affected By Travel Ban (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/judges-keep-falsely-saying-no-terrorists-came-from-countries-affected-by-travel-ban/)
By Alex Pfeiffer
(http://dailycaller.com/author/apfeiffer/)Reporter (http://dailycaller.com/author/apfeiffer/) | 11:17 AM 02/08/2017

Federal judges hearing the case regarding Trump’s travel ban continue to falsely state that no terrorists have come from the nations affected by President Trump’s executive order temporarily barring immigration from seven majority-Muslim nations.

Not only have the judges been incorrect in these statements but the attorneys for the Department of Justice have been unprepared.

In a hearing last week, Judge James Robart, of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington State, asked Justice Department lawyer Michelle Bennett, “Have there been terrorist attacks in the United States by refugees or other immigrants from the seven countries listed, since 9/11?” Bennett was not able to give Robart a response.

The federal judge then said, “Let me tell you. The answer to that is none, as best I can tell.” Robart subsequently issued an order which halted Trump’s executive action nationwide. The Daily Caller, however, reported (http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/30/at-least-20-alleged-terrorists-since-2014-came-from-countries-affected-by-trumps-immigration-ban/) days before Robart’s ruling that at least 19 alleged terrorists since 2014 have come from the countries affected by Trump’s travel ban. This includes two stabbing attacks that left 21 people wounded. The Washington Examiner reported (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2614043?platform=hootsuite) Monday that at least 60 alleged terrorists came from these countries between Sept. 11, 2001 and 2014.

The Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security have kept the immigration status of terrorists hidden, and these figures are based off publicly available information. This means the number of terrorists from these nations could be much larger and that the DOJ lawyers arguing the cases should have access to the complete picture.

Robart wasn’t the only judge to spout this fib. On Tuesday, the United States Circuit Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit heard arguments regarding the DOJ’s request for a stay. Judge William Canby asked DOJ attorney August Flentje, “How many federal offenses have we had being committed by people who came with visas from these countries? The answer was there haven’t been any.”

Flentje wasn’t able to firmly tell Canby that he is lying, and instead said, “These proceedings have been moving quite fast and we’re doing the best we can.”

Correction: There have been at least 19 alleged terrorists since 2014.

SOURCE (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/judges-keep-falsely-saying-no-terrorists-came-from-countries-affected-by-travel-ban/)
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Did The Judges Lie: New Report Finds 72 Terrorists Came From Countries Covered By Trump Ban (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-11/did-judges-lie-new-report-finds-72-terrorists-came-countries-covered-trump-ban)

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The federal judge who halted President Donald Trump's travel ban was wrong in stating that no one from the seven countries targeted in Trump's order has been arrested for extremism in the United States since the 2001 terrorist attacks. In fact, as a new report finds (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-72-terrorists-came-from-7-muslim-countries-trump-targeted/article/2614582), 72 individuals from those countries have been convicted of terrorism since 9/11.

Feb 11, 2017 5:59 PM




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[turiya]

Greg Hunter with his weekly news wrap-up...


Greg Hunter-Weekly News Wrap-Up
(2.10.17)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGOnNWP-qKU_____________________________

The Economic Crisis Is Going To Be
Alot Worse Than Originally Thought
Episode 1199a
(Published on Feb 8, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shr-ZIaEBYQ_____________________________

As We Approach The Economic Crisis
The Government Will Start To Breakdown
Episode 1199b
(Published on Feb 8, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CS2dEWlgs

[A Voice from the Mountains]

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Source: MichaelPRamirez.com (http://michaelpramirez.com/index.html)


Jefferson was not a Democrat in any way. He called himself a republican, in the original sense of the word, while the founding fathers associated Democrats with Jacobins and populists/radical mobs.

Jefferson favored a strict limited interpretation of the Constitution and only sought to maintain the status quo of the aristocratic rule in his home state of Virginia. The Democratic Party didn't even exist until after Jefferson had retired from politics. What we have today is heavily influenced by the political theories of Marxism, which came even later.

[turiya]

https://www.johndenugent.com/images/paul-craig-roberts-banner-march-2016.jpg (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/)

Zionist Neocons Have Trump
In Their Sights (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/09/lendman-reports-trump-appoint-zionist-israel-sahmir-says-stabbed-trump-back/)
— Paul Craig Roberts
February 9, 2017 | Guest Contributions
Both Israel Shamir and Stephen Lendmen are Jews who are more loyal to Truth than to Zionism.

Israel Shamir Explains (http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-futile-efforts-of-donald-trump/) That Zionist Jews Have Stabbed Trump In The Back


Neocon Elliot Abrams for Deputy Secretary of State?
by Stephen Lendman

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Neocon Elliott Abrams

Trump is considering Elliot Abrams for the department’s number two position – perhaps an especially powerful one, while Rex Tillerson transitions from Big Oil to diplomacy.


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Trump's transition advisor, James Carafano, believes Abrams is “pretty close to being named” – best known for his role in the 1980s Iran-Contra affair. It involved covertly selling arms to Iran to fund Contra anti-Sandinista terrorists in Nicaragua. The Boland Amendment prohibited it.

For his role in the scheme, Abrams [faced indictment] for lying to Congress, pled guilty to two lesser offenses of withholding information from Congress to avoid a trial, possible conviction and imprisonment.

On Christmas night 1992, GHW Bush pardoned him and other Iran-Contra defendants – their high crimes forgiven, not forgotten.

In 1998, Abrams and other PNAC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century) members urged “decisive action” to replace Federal Republic of Yugoslavia President Slobodan Milosevic with pro-Western leadership. The nation’s 1999 rape followed, one of many Clinton administration high crimes. [Milosevic was framed by the criminal Clinton regime and its NATO vassals with the complicity of the Western presstitutes fake news service. After his death, Milosevic was found innocent and exonerated by the International Criminal Tribunal. See here (http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/01/the-exoneration-of-milosevic-the-ictys-surprise-ruling/) and here (https://www.rt.com/op-edge/354362-slobodan-milosevic-exonerated-us-nato/).

The same year, Abrams was one of 18 PNAC signatories in a letter to Clinton, urging war on Iraq and removal of Saddam Hussein, calling him a “hazard (to) a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil.”

In the GW Bush administration, he was one of its architects. He drafted a proposal for seizing Iraq’s oil fields. The US installed puppet regime maintained control.

During Reagan’s two terms, Abrams held three State Department positions, including Assistant secretary for Inter-American Affairs from July 17, 1985 – January 20, 1989.

He later served as GW Bush’s Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor, supervising White House Middle East policy.

He was instrumental in the aborted two-day coup attempt to replace Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez with puppet leadership serving US interests.

In 2007, he was part of a black operation to destabilize Iran, using disinformation and manipulation of its currency, aiming for regime change.

He was a Project for the New American Century (PNAC) signatory (now called the Foreign Policy Initiative (http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Policy_Initiative)), established in 1997, comprised of neocon extremists, dedicated to seeking US global dominance through endless wars of aggression.

He’s currently connected to the neocon American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute), the Heritage Foundation, the Council on Foreign Relations, and various other hardline groups.

He’s a notorious Zionist zealot, opposed to sympathies toward Palestinians, fundamentally against Israeli concessions to achieve conflict resolution.

He’s interventionist, pro-endless wars of aggression, advocating nation-building, what Trump said he opposes.

If appointed State’s number two, will neocon foreign policy continue unabated? Will endless imperial wars rage?

Will confrontation with China and Iran follow, risking possible nuclear war? Will hope for improved relations with Russia be dashed? Will Congress prevent it anyway?

Will dirty business as usual remain unchanged, especially US imperial madness, or will Trump manage to go another way?

America needs more peacemakers, fewer warriors. It’s not the way things usually work out.

sjlendman.blogspot.com (http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/)


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Oh, but wait.... this just in a few hours ago.... I think everybody can breath big sigh of relief...


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Trump Overrules Tillerson,
Rejecting Elliott Abrams
for Deputy Secretary of State (http://https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/politics/trump-wall-21-billion-dollars.html?_r=0)
Mr. Trump overruled his newly minted secretary of state, Rex W. Tillerson, and rejected the secretary’s choice for his deputy at the department, two people briefed on the decision said Friday.

The deputy’s job was denied for Elliott Abrams, a conservative who had served under President Ronald Reagan and President George W. Bush, deals a blow to Mr. Tillerson in his first week on the job. The rejection of Mr. Abrams leaves Mr. Tillerson without a sherpa to help guide the first-time government official around the State Department headquarters.

More at the link (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/politics/trump-wall-21-billion-dollars.html?_r=0)

Whew! Now, that was worrisome...
I can start smiling again...






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[Eram]

Trump gave Abrams the boot. :happythumbsup:



Trump Passes on Elliott Abrams for State Dept., Throwing Open Selection Process
The White House continues its search for an experienced hand after the president rejected a controversial neoconservative.
President Donald Trump is no longer considering Elliott Abrams to fill the State Department’s No. 2 slot due to critical comments the former Bush administration official made of Trump during the campaign, GOP aides said.

The turnabout, first reported by CNN, creates a surprise shakeup in a selection process for a deputy who is seen as key in providing a steady hand to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, an ex-CEO who lacks Washington experience and whose foreign policy credentials are thinner than many of his predecessors.

It also underscores Trump’s reluctance to bring into the fold GOP establishment figures who criticized his candidacy during the presidential race, despite their willingness to serve in his administration or the expertise they may provide.

Trump so far hasn’t tapped for key administration posts any of the more than 150 Republicans national-security professionals who signed onto so-called “Never Trump” letters during the campaign.

With Abrams out, the field is now reopened to previously-rumored candidates such as Paula Dobrianksy, a former Bush administration official, and Richard Haas, president of the Council on Foreign Relations. Jim Jeffrey, who served as deputy national security adviser under President George W. Bush, was also under consideration.

Abrams, a controversial figure given his enthusiastic support for the Iraq War and involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, had nevertheless won the blessing of Tillerson and even some Senate Democrats given his deep knowledge of the State Department apparatus. (Abrams was convicted, and later pardoned, for withholding evidence from Congress during the Iran-Contra affair. He also supported repressive governments in Central America.)

Tillerson, the former CEO of ExxonMobil, entered Foggy Bottom with no previous government experience. And given the forced departure of key management personnel at the State Department such as Under Secretary of Management Pat Kennedy, Republicans have urged the president to select a deputy with broad knowledge of the building.

That could have been Abrams, who had also reportedly earned the support of Trump’s chief of staff Reince Priebus. However, a GOP Senate aide noted that Abrams broke the golden rule.

“Outspoken critics of Trump and the ‘Never Trump’ crowd of the Republican party need not apply,” the aide told Foreign Policy.

Abrams did not sign two prominent “Never Trump” letters that have set back the careers of several national security Republicans now eager to enter the administration. However, he did harshly criticize Trump prominently in a May 2016 op-ed in the neoconservative magazine The Weekly Standard in which he declared that Republicans have “nominated someone who cannot win and should not be the president of the United States.”

Asked by FP on Friday if he regretted making those remarks, Abrams said he “won’t be commenting at all.”

Abrams’s fall from grace was mourned by fellow neoconservatives, such as Eliot Cohen, a former Bush administration official who called the snub a “deliberate humiliation.” Others noted that Abrams didn’t have an unblemished public record going into the selection process. “These are dark days when the foreign policy community’s best hopes — now dashed, yet again — were pinned on a convicted perjurer,” tweeted Andrew Exum, a former Obama administration official.

Republicans still enjoy a bench of foreign policy professionals with knowledge of the State Department, but there is no clear frontrunner for the position. According to State Department sources, the Trump administration is considering Beth Jones, a former acting assistant secretary for Near East Affairs, for the No. 3 position in the building, under secretary of state for political affairs. Jones, who remains somewhat controversial in Republican circles for serving during the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, also brings extensive knowledge of State Department operations, according to sources


http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/10/trump-passes-on-eliott-abrams-for-state-dept-throwing-open-selection-process/

edit: oops, had not yet read the end of your last post Turiya

[turiya]

Hannity w/ the Steve Gern video...


Retired Marine's message about
travel ban goes viral
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

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What Voter Fraud? - Mexican Citizen Sentenced To 8 Years In Prison After Illegally Voting In Texas (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/what-voter-fraud-mexican-citizen-sentenced-8-years-prison-after-illegally-voting-tex)

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Rosa Ortega, a Mexican citizen, has been convicted of voter fraud and sentenced to 8 years in prison in Texas after inadvertently admitting to election officials that she had been voting in Dallas County for years.

Feb 10, 2017 10:15 PM


The Reason The Elite Hate Trump So Much: He Is Opposed To The One World Agenda Of The Globalists (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/reason-elite-hate-trump-so-much-he-opposed-one-world-agenda-globalists)

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Have you ever wondered why the elite hate Donald Trump so much?

Feb 10, 2017 9:50 PM

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[turiya]

And the next hurdle to cross-over... Foreign Entanglements - another war for Israel? ...this one w/ Iran... will Donald get sucked in??? ... and more...


Jeff Rense and Gerald Celente
Has Trump Duped America?
Shocking Developments
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

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China, Russia And Iran Are Dumping
The Dollar And Increasing Gold Purchases
Episode 1200a
(Published on Feb 9, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m--Dg3DhZ0_________________________________

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Assad Dismisses Report on
Mass Hangings in Syria as ‘Fake News’ (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/10/assad-dismisses-report-highlighting-depraved-atrocities-government-fake-news/)

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10 Feb 2017
Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad has denounced as “fake news” a report by human rights watchdog Amnesty International highlighting depraved atrocities his regime allegedly authorized, including “mass hangings” and torture of prisoners.


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However, Amnesty International is not the only organization that has decried Assad for human rights violations and war crimes.

Since the civil war started in Syria, governments, the United Nations, NGOs, and the media have condemned Assad’s record on freedom and human rights.

The recently issued Amnesty International report (http://www.amnestyusa.org/research/reports/human-slaughterhouse-mass-hangings-and-extermination-at-saydnaya-prison-syria) — rebuked by Assad as “fake news” in an exclusive interview (https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-defiant-assad-tells-yahoo-news-torture-report-is-fake-news-100042667.html) with Yahoo News — highlights “the Syrian government’s calculated campaign of extrajudicial executions by mass hangings at Saydnaya Prison.”

According to the report, “Between 2011 and 2015, every week and often twice a week, groups of up to 50 people were taken out of their prison cells and hanged to death. In five years, as many as 13,000 people, most of them civilians believed to be opposed to the government, were hanged in secret at Saydnaya.”

Titled “Human Slaughterhouse: Mass Hangings and Extermination at Saydnaya Prison,” the report notes that Assad has been “deliberately inflicting inhuman conditions on detainees at Saydnaya Prison through repeated torture and the systematic deprivation of food, water, medicine and medical care.”

“The report documents how these extermination policies have killed massive numbers of detainees,” it adds.

Amnesty International accuses the Assad regime of extrajudicial executions and “sadistic” torture and inhuman treatment at the Saydnaya Prison.

In total, more than 30,000 have died in prisons across Syria as a result of the inhumane conditions and torture since the Syrian civil war began in 2011, reports the human rights watchdog group.

The report describes the Syrian government practices inside its prisons as war crimes and crimes against a humanity authorized at the highest level of the Assad regime.

Human rights violations and war crimes by the Assad regime have been a recurring theme in the Syrian civil war.

In October 2016 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-defiant-assad-tells-yahoo-news-torture-report-is-fake-news-100042667.html), the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein referred to the siege and bombing of Aleppo by Russia and Iran-backed Syrian forces as “crimes of historic proportions” and described the besieged city as a “slaughterhouse.”

The U.N. human rights chief urged the International Criminal Court to prosecute the Syrian government.

In the city of Aleppo alone, the Syrian government reportedly committed various human rights violations, including civilian casualties, interference with the delivery of humanitarian aid, and interference with efforts to evacuate civilians from the city.

Aleppo had been at the epicenter of the Syrian conflict until it fell into the hands (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/12/12/pentagon-announces-deployment-200-troops-syria-aleppo-collapses/) of the Assad regime late last year,

The Syrian Network for Human Rights (SNHR) (http://sn4hr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/detainees-and-enforced-disappearances-monthly-reports/) has documented thousands of arbitrary arrests cases in the course of the ongoing war in Syria, including 11,953 in 2015 and 10,047 last year.

“SNHR possesses lists of more than 117,000 detainees, including children and women, [and] it should be noted that we estimate that the actual number of detainees [has] exceeded 215,000; 99% of them are being detained mainly by Syrian regime forces,” notes the human rights group (http://sn4hr.org/blog/2017/01/05/30813/).

Moreover, the Assad regime has used chemical weapons (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/26/watchdog-syrias-assad-still-chemical-weapons/) against its enemies and civilians in violation of international law and U.N. resolutions.

In November 2016, activists accused Assad of dropping chlorine-filled barrel bombs in a district in Aleppo, reported Sky News (http://news.sky.com/story/activists-accuse-syria-regime-of-chemical-attack-in-aleppo-10690402).

An investigation by the U.N. and an international chemical weapons watchdog (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/09/07/assad-troops-accused-dropping-chlorine-bombs-aleppo-wounding-80-including-children-women/) revealed at the time that the Syrian regime had dropped chlorine bombs in at least three attacks (http://news.sky.com/story/syrian-army-responsible-for-third-chlorine-gas-attack-un-inquiry-10627072)over the past two years.

The U.K.-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=26305), which uses a network of ground sources to monitor the Syrian conflict, has also documented abuses by the Syrian government throughout the ongoing civil war.

In July 2015, the Observatory reported “more than 1,000 children” had been killed “in airstrikes carried out by the Syrian government in the ongoing civil war,” adding that the “4,879 civilians in total” had “died in aerial bombardments by [regime] warplanes and helicopters.”

Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International (https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/syria/report-syria/), and other human rights advocates have accused dictator Assad of violations since the Syrian war started in 2011.

Various human rights organizations and press freedom groups have also documented the Assad regime’s execution of many journalists throughout the war. Syria (http://www.france24.com/en/20161219-rsf-slams-information-black-hole-syria-remains-worlds-most-dangerous-country-journalists) is considered one of the top most dangerous countries for media personnel.

Last year alone, SNHR (http://sn4hr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/media-freedom/) reported that the Syrian regime killed 41 “media activists who died due to torture.”

BREITBART (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/10/assad-dismisses-report-highlighting-depraved-atrocities-government-fake-news/)

[turiya]

"Panic" Spreads Among Hispanics After Hundreds Of Illegal Immigrants Arrested (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-11/panic-spreads-among-hispanics-after-hundreds-illegal-immigrants-arrested)

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Hispanic organizers are struggling to tamp down panic in their communities as federal authorities arrest hundreds of illegal aliens as part of President Trump's executive orders on immigration.

Feb 11, 2017 7:48 PM



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Trump Administration Prepares to Execute
“Vicious” Executive Order on Deportations (https://theintercept.com/2017/02/09/trump-administration-prepares-to-execute-vicious-executive-order-on-deportations/)
By Ryan Devereaux
February 9 2017

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Mexicans Vow To Fight Trump By "Jamming US Courts" As Deportations Set To Surge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-11/deportations-begin-mexicans-vow-fight-trump-jamming-us-courts)

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In response to the launch of deportations of illegal aliens following Trump's executive order, influential Mexicans are pushing an aggressive - and risky - strategy to fight the increase in deportations of their undocumented peers in the U.S.: "jam U.S. immigration courts in hopes of causing the already overburdened system to break down", as the Mexican government warns citizens to "take precautions."

Feb 11, 2017 10:10 AM



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Weekly Update: Refugee Secrets (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/refugee-secrets/)
FEBRUARY 10, 2017


JW Files Suit For ‘Refugee Travel Loans’ Information
(http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/refugee-secrets/#anc1) Mexican Drug Cartel Operating in U.S. Suburb More than 1,500 Miles from Border (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/refugee-secrets/#anc2)
California Crony Corruption Costs Taxpayers (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/refugee-secrets/#anc3)
Be Sure to Watch: ‘The Voter Fraud Crisis’ (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/refugee-secrets/#anc4)


JW Files Suit For ‘Refugee Travel Loans’ Information

Tightening our immigration and refugee programs is a matter of national security (despite what some out-of-control judges (http://video.foxnews.com/v/5318047949001/?playlist_id=930909813001#sp=show-clips) may think), and it is also a matter of cost.

In this regard, we have filed a lawsuit against the State Department for records on the number of “Refugee Travel Loans” issued by State’s Bureau for Population, Refugees, and Migration to the United Nation’s International Organization for Migration from 2010 to the present.

We are also seeking the number of loans defaulted upon and the amount of money written off on each defaulted loan. We filed the suit on January 24, 2017, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-state-immigration-loans-complaint-00157/) (No. 1:17-cv-00157)).

Judicial Watch filed the suit after the State Department failed to respond to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on February 5, 2016, seeking the following:

All records reflecting the number of Refugee Travel Loans furnished by the State Department’s Bureau for Population, Refugees, and Migration (PRM) to the International Organization for Migration (IOM) per year; the number of travel loans that are defaulted upon per year; and the amount of money written off per defaulted loan.

The Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration provides funding for aid and relief work abroad and the bureau’s admissions office handles settling refugees in the United States. According to the agency’s website (https://www.state.gov/j/prm/about/265944.htm), it spent nearly $545 million “to provide new beginnings to the world’s most vulnerable refugees” in 2016 and more than $2.8 billion to “humanitarian assistance overseas.” It provided $103 million directly to the UN’s International Organization for Migration.

The International Organization for Migration, headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, has an annual budget of $1.4 billion (http://www.iom.int/organizational-structure) and (as of 2014) a staff of 9,000 throughout the world. According to the International Organization for Migration website (https://www.iom.int/countries/united-states-america), the organization provides interest-free loans “furnished by the Department of State” to “all refugees arriving in the United States:”

All refugees arriving in the United States are offered interest-free travel loans by IOM. Refugees who accept these travel loans are required to sign a promissory note prior to departure, committing themselves to repayment of the debt within 46 months after arrival in the United States.

IOM arranges for refugee travel using funds furnished by the Department of State, and is mandated to subsequently effect collections on behalf of the Department of State. Repayments made by refugees toward their loans are returned to the Department of State for use by the Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration (PRM) to defray the cost of future refugee travel.

In July 2016, the United Nations General Assembly unanimously adopted a resolution (http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/international-organisation-for-migration-ban-ki-moon-united-nationas-un-2935899/) making the International Organization for Migration (http://www.iom.int/organizational-structure) part of the UN.

Even The Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/faith-based-groups-earn-millions-on-refugee-loan-commissions/2015/12/01/87cd5110-9860-11e5-aca6-1ae3be6f06d2_story.html) that the nine resettlement agencies (http://www.unhcr.org/en-us/588a14fc4) contracted by the State Department to help resettle refugees in the U.S. actually make more than $5 million a year in commissions on refugee debt collection.

The State Department has stonewalled our request for refugee loan information and associated taxpayer losses for a year – an unlawful delay that screams “cover up.” This is an opportunity for the Trump State Department to come clean and clean up this refugee welfare program.

And there’s a lot more for the Trump administration to clean up when it comes to “refugee loans.” In June 2016, Judicial Watch reported (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/06/u-s-doesnt-track-millions-biz-loans-refugees-public-assistance-repaid/):

The U.S. government gives refugees on public assistance special “loans” of up to $15,000 to start a business but fails to keep track of defaults that could translate into huge losses for American taxpayers, records obtained by Judicial Watch reveal. The cash is distributed through a program called Microenterprise Development run by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Refugee Resettlement.


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HHS is not the only government agency doling out huge sums of cash for this cause, though its focus on refugees appears to be unique. Others, such as the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_International_Development), the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Labor (DOL) also dedicate hundreds of millions of dollars to various microenterprise causes. For instance, in one recent year alone USAID spent $223 million on microenterprise development activities, according to figures released by the agency. The USDA also allocates large sums to provide loans and grants to microenterprise development through a special “Rural Microloan Revolving Fund” and the DOL regularly pours lots of money into various microenterprise projects that are promoted as workforce investments in areas with high rates of poverty.

So the debate about refugees is more than about keeping dangerous refugees out, but there is also the matter of asking just how much it costs to make politicians to feel good about themselves by using our tax dollars to provide special assistance to these foreign nationals.




Mexican Drug Cartel Operating in U.S. Suburb More than 1,500 Miles from Border

President Donald Trump made it clear during his campaign that one of the reasons for building a wall along the Mexican border is to disrupt the flow of heroin into the United States. This heroin is killing Americans in record numbers, according (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6450a3.htm) to the Centers for Disease Control.

The crisis isn’t limited to areas adjacent to the border; it has now spread to communities far beyond, as our Corruption Chronicles blog reports (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/02/mexican-drug-cartel-operating-u-s-suburb-1500-miles-border/) this week:

Illustrating that the Mexican drug crisis is having a far-reaching impact on the U.S., a heroin ring operated by a Mexican cartel was recently busted in an American suburb more than 1,500 miles from the southern border. In the last few years Judicial Watch has reported extensively on the massive amounts of drugs—especially heroin—that get smuggled into the U.S. by Mexican traffickers who later use street, prison and outlaw motorcycle gangs to distribute them throughout the country. Undoubtedly, these enterprises benefitted tremendously from the Obama administration’s open border policies.

Now we have confirmation that these illicit drug operations have penetrated areas far from the border. This case comes out of Rowan County, North Carolina, where a local news report (http://www.wxii12.com/article/three-people-with-ties-to-mexican-drug-cartel-arrested/8669735) reveals that authorities began targeting large-scale heroin distribution in 2013. Last week three people with ties to a Mexican drug cartel were arrested in the county. Large quantities of heroin, handguns, a rifle, ammunition, numerous telephones, cash and drug paraphernalia were confiscated by police. Authorities say the Mexican heroin trafficking ring was based in the Charlotte-Matthews area and has been supplying heroin to Rowan County for more than a decade. “Over the past two months, investigators purchased large amounts of heroin from two people working for this Mexican National Drug Trafficking Organization,” the news report states.

This is hardly earth-shattering news. A number of federal audits have documented the enormous amounts of drugs that annually enter the U.S. through the porous southern border, even as Obama’s Homeland Security Secretary famously proclaimed the region to be as secure as it’s ever been. One report, published just a few months ago, referred to western states as a “heroin transit zone” (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/08/mexican-drugs-enter-u-s-record-rates-western-states-heroin-transit-zone/) because Mexican cartels move such large amounts of drugs through the Southwest border. That government assessment disclosed that there at least eight major Mexican drug trafficking organizations operating in the United States with the Sinaloa Cartel being the most active. Heroin is the most popular drug and it’s entering the country through Mexico in record numbers. From 2010 to 2015 heroin seizures in the Mexican border region more than doubled from 1,016 kg to 2,524 kg, according to government figures.

The trend mirrors the increase in overall seizures throughout the U.S. as well. For instance, federal arrests and prosecutions of heroin traffickers have skyrocketed with 6,353 heroin-related arrests in 2015. Additionally, the number of individuals sentenced for heroin trafficking offenses in federal courts has increased by almost 50%, the government confirms. In 2015 the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) issued a report (https://www.dea.gov/docs/2015%20NDTA%20Report.pdf) disclosing that the majority of illegal drugs in the United States come from Mexico and Mexican traffickers remain the greatest criminal threat to the United States. They’re classified as Transitional Criminal Organizations (TCOs) by the government and they’ve long smuggled in huge quantities of heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine and marijuana.

A big part of the problem is that the drug trafficking is being leveraged by corrupt public officials in the U.S., a years-long Judicial Watch investigation has found. Undoubtedly, cartel violence is real but truckloads of drugs are getting across the country because U.S. officials at the municipal, state and federal level are turning a blind eye or actively participating and cooperating with cartels. As part of an ongoing probe, Judicial Watch has provided the Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley with evidence, including the sworn testimony of law enforcement officers, of this corruption and criminality in all levels of government. Learn more about Judicial Watch’s probe here (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/video-chris-farrell-reveals-shocking-new-details-mexican-heroin-cartels-invasion-america/).

Do not imagine that our porous border is a problem for someone else because you don’t live there. The quadrupling of deaths from heroine overdosing has occurred (http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/08/19/the-heroin-epidemic-in-9-graphs) in every part of the country and among every race and age group. We have covered this extensively, as you can see here (http://www.judicialwatch.org/?s=heroin), and we will not let up.



California Crony Corruption Costs Taxpayers

Americans of almost every political stripe – liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican – hate the “revolving door,” which is the shuttling of former government officials into private jobs where they use their formerly official connections to enrich themselves.

This week, we released documents that the Washington revolving door extends all the way to Sacramento, California, and back again. JW pried loose records (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/california-records-production-holder-1-2017/) from the California Legislature Joint Rules Committee revealing that the legislature will pay former Attorney General Eric Holder’s law firm $25,000 a month for 40 hours of work each month for providing “legal strategies regarding potential actions of the federal government that may be of concern to the State of California.” The contract precludes requiring the Holder firm to do any other litigation or advocacy work.

The records came in response to a January 9, 2017, Legislative Open Records Act request (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-seeks-eric-holder-contract-document-california-legislature/) for:

All contracts between the California Legislature and former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. or Covington and Burling.

All communications between the California Legislature and former U. S. Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. or Covington and Burling about the Legislature’s retention of Holder and/or Covington and Burling.

On January 4, California legislative leaders announced (http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Calif-legislature-hires-Eric-Holder-to-fend-off-10834911.php#photo-12135995) that they had hired Holder to assist them in anticipated federal challenges to several state policies, including those on climate change and immigration.

In a statement (http://sd24.senate.ca.gov/news/2017-01-04-california-legislative-leaders-hiring-former-us-attorney-general-eric-h-holder-jr), Kevin de Leon, California Senate President Pro Tempore said, “With the upcoming change in administrations, we expect that there will be extraordinary challenges for California in the uncertain times ahead.” The California attorney general, who represents the State’s interest in court, already has a budget (http://www.lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3487/10) of $190 million. So, yes, taxpayers are being double-charged for lawyers they don’t need!

In the Covington contract provided to Judicial Watch, Holder’s firm limited its activities to providing “legal strategies” and stipulated that it would require a “new engagement letter” for any activities beyond providing such advice:

We are pleased to confirm that we will serve as Special Counsel to the California State Senate and the California State Assembly (collectively “the Legislature”) in helping the Legislature develop legal strategies regarding potential actions of the federal government that may be of concern to the State of California…

Should the Legislature wish to retain us to work on any particular litigation or other matter or public policy advocacy work, that would not fall within the scope of this undertaking and would require a new engagement letter.

Holder was one of Obama’s longest-serving and most crooked Cabinet members. On June 28, 2012, he became the first U.S. Attorney General to be held in contempt of Congress (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/28/house-holds-holder-contempt.html) on both civil and criminal grounds. The contempt charge came in connection with Holder’s refusal to turn over documents on Operation Fast and Furious (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-sues-atf-for-fast-and-furious-records-detailing-communications-between-atf-and-obama-white-house-official/), the Obama administration’s gunwalking scandal. Judicial Watch has since exposed (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-fast-furious-crime-scene-photos-phoenix-2013-gang-style-assault-rifle-supplied-obama-justice-department/) numerous atrocities (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-justice-department-documents-reveal-widespread-use-fast-furious-weapons-major-mexican-drug-cartels-linked-least-69-killings/) associated with this scandal (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-statement-release-enormous-trove-doj-fast-furious-documents/).

Under Holder the Justice Department dismissed its voting rights case (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/political-appointee-involved-obama-justice-department-decision-drop-black-panther-case/) against the New Black Panther Party. The Justice Department originally filed its lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party following an incident that took place outside of a Philadelphia polling station on November 4, 2008. According to multiple witnesses, members of the New Black Panthers blocked access to polling stations, harassed voters and hurled racial epithets. A video of the incident, showing a member of the New Black Panther Party brandishing police-style baton weapon, was widely distributed on the Internet.

In March 2011, we sued the Holder Justice Department for records (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/jw-sues-doj-for-records-detailing-contacts-with-naacp-about-dismissal-of-new-black-panther-party-voter-intimidation-lawsuit/) detailing its contacts with NAACP about the dismissal of the lawsuit.

In 2013, the Holder Justice Department was caught spying on The Associated Press (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/05/even-liberals-call-dojs-ap-spying-unacceptable-abuse-of-power/) by collecting months’ worth of phone records of reporters and editors. Fox News’ James Rosen was among those targeted (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/documents-show-obama-white-house-attacked-excluded-fox-news-channel/) by Holder’s Justice Department. Holder left the Justice Department in 2015 to rejoin Covington & Burling.

So you can see why many are outraged. California state legislators are wasting tax dollars to bankroll another corrupt politician – Eric Holder – under the pretense of attacking the Trump administration. This expensive contract is crony corruption pure and simple.

The swamp of public corruption has taken over California.
We aren’t finished with our investigation, so stay tuned.



Be Sure to Watch: ‘The Voter Fraud Crisis’

The issue of voter fraud is now out in the open, and you will want to join us for next week’s special panel titled “The Voter Fraud Crisis.” We’ll be joined by a raft of experts:



Cleta Mitchell
Partner and Political Law Attorney
Foley & Lardner LLP

Hans von Spakovsky
Manager, Election Law Reform Initiative
Senior Legal Fellow, Meese Center for Legal and Judicial Studies
Heritage Foundation

Robert Popper
Senior Attorney
Head of Election Integrity Project
Judicial Watch

Professor Jesse Richman
Political Science & Geography
Old Dominion University

It will be my honor to moderate as this group of distinguished experts enlightens us. You can watch it live here next Thursday, February 16, from 12 noon – 1:00 pm ET.

JUDICIAL WATCH (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/refugee-secrets/)

[turiya]

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http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/830751875578355713)
While on FAKE NEWS @CNN, Bernie Sanders
was cut off for using the term fake news to
describe the network. They said technical
difficulties!

4:14 AM - 12 Feb 2017




________________________________

CNN Cuts Feed When Bernie Sanders
Jokes About 'CNN Fake News'
(2/12/2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC3nefsZfk4_____________________________

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-D9zyZsduxcU/WJzswB0S3tI/AAAAAAAAblI/Qb9AZY4flQwb2S9icL7jIGvayk-v4b-5ACLcB/s1600/TrumpBias-1.jpg

_________________Late Add_____________________________




Maduro Kicks CNN Out Of Venezuela, Accuses It Of Spreading Fake News (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/maduro-kicks-cnn-out-venezuela-accuses-it-spreading-fake-news)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/maduro%20pres.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/maduro-kicks-cnn-out-venezuela-accuses-it-spreading-fake-news)
While tensions between President Trump and CNN dying down, a new scandal has erupted for the cable news network after Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro said on Sunday he wanted CNN out of the country, accusing it of spreading fake news, misrepresenting the truth and meddling in issues that are not of its concern.

Feb 13, 2017 12:44 PM


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[turiya]

The Latest scuttlebut is that Reince Priebus will be replaced... I would hope so!


Trump's friend on Priebus:
'There's a lot of weakness
coming out of the chief of staff'
(Published on Feb 12, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbsJ_b1glkQ_____________________________

Jerome Corsi: Priebus linked to Soros? ...Wow, that's a new one... Trump is being opposed by GOP establishment... nothing new...


Report: Trump Looking
For New Chief Of Staff
(Published on Feb 9, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVs7cOidtvk

[DNA]

Thanks Turiya, Robert David Steel was talking about Priebus being a traitor so I really hope if Priebus is in fact a traitor that Trump replaces him. Also it was efn hilarious the Trump tweet you posted showing how Sanders tried a "fake news" joke on CNN and CNN cut off Sanders. I love how Trump tweeted about it and brought attention to it. CNN is not a joke they are treasonous disinformation to the American people.
Keep it up Turiya.

[turiya]

Piers Morgan has not been one of my favorite "to go to" people in the past... but his presence on the Bill Maher program had revealed something that I really did not expect... nor was it expected by another so-called "left-wing progressive - liberal"...


Piers Morgan told to "foock off" on
Real Time for defending Trump
(Published on Feb 11, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaRhb4JP_vc

[turiya]

Trump should try to pickup Catherine Austin Fitts as a top advisor... imo


Catherine Austin Fitts-Trump
Taking On Corruption & Lawlessness
(Published on Feb 11, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4lPBznVCJU

Goes with what Catherine had
said in the Greg Hunter Interview
https://patrick.net/content/uploads/2017/01/oc4vxr4.jpg

[Chester]

heard stated by someone today on FOX News -

"The media is the unaccountable fourth branch of the government"

Thankfully this is becoming less and less true and I do not mean with regards to their unaccountably... I mean with their reach and impact.

[turiya]

Okay... most of these comedian talk shows are unrelenting when it comes to Trump, but here is one that I found acceptable to post...


Gutfeld: Appeals court chose popularity over facts
(Published on Feb 11, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0RCiQKUaoM

[turiya]

NEWS HEADLINES FROM ZEROHEDGE

China "Seriously Concerned And Opposed" After Trump Backs Japan Over Disputed East China Sea Islands (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/china-seriously-concerned-and-opposed-after-trump-backs-japan-over-disputed-east-chi)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/trump%20abe%20big.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/china-seriously-concerned-and-opposed-after-trump-backs-japan-over-disputed-east-chi)
China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said China was "seriously concerned and resolutely opposed", after Japan got continued U.S. backing for its dispute with Beijing over islands in the East China Sea during a meeting with Trump, adding that the islands had been China's inherent territory since ancient times.

Feb 13, 2017 9:22 AM


Why Donald Trump Needs The Next Recession To Start As Quickly As Possible (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/why-donald-trump-needs-next-recession-start-quickly-possible)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170213_trumpcession.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/why-donald-trump-needs-next-recession-start-quickly-possible)
A new recession is coming, and Donald Trump needs it to begin sooner rather than later...

Feb 13, 2017 8:23 AM


Trump Meets Trudeau: Key Events In Washington Today (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/trump-meet-trudeau-key-events-washington-today)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/trump%20trudeau.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/trump-meet-trudeau-key-events-washington-today)
"We're going to talk about all sorts of things we align on, like jobs and economic growth, opportunities for the middle class - the fact that millions of good jobs on both sides of our border depend on the smooth flow of goods and services across that border," Trudeau said.

Feb 13, 2017 7:18 AM


"No News Is Good News" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/no-news-good-news)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/trump%20abe_1.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/no-news-good-news)
"The media may refer to the Trump-Abe bromance, but the fact of the matter is that this week’s strong start to markets isn’t driven by any particular positive catalyst. The two leaders delivered no surprises. Instead, this rally is largely based on the absence of new negative catalysts. The fact that Trump met another major world leader and didn’t create an international incident is now a notable event."

Feb 13, 2017 7:03 AM


Trump, Bannon Said To Weigh Firing Mike Flynn Over Russian Phone Calls Scandal (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-12/trump-bannon-said-weigh-firing-mike-flynn-over-russian-phone-calls-scandal)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/flynn%20teaser.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-12/trump-bannon-said-weigh-firing-mike-flynn-over-russian-phone-calls-scandal)
The White House is reviewing whether to retain National Security Advisor Mike Flynn amid a furor over his contacts with Russian officials before President Donald Trump took office. Bannon’s view is to keep him in the position but “be ready” to let him go, the WSJ added.

Feb 13, 2017 5:44 AM


"It Was A Deer In Headlights Moment": Japan Dumps Most US Treasuries Since May 2013 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-12/it-was-deer-headlights-moment-japan-dumps-most-us-treasuries-may-2013)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/Japan%20bond%20sales%20teaser.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-12/it-was-deer-headlights-moment-japan-dumps-most-us-treasuries-may-2013)
In December, Japan - the largest holder of Treasuries following China's recent sharp selloff - saw domestic investors dump their holdings of by the most since May 2013. “It was a deer in the headlights moment,” said Zoltan Pozsar, a research analyst at Credit Suisse, and it may be about to get much worse.

Feb 13, 2017 4:35 AM


Paying Them Not To Kill Us? (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-12/paying-them-not-kill-us)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170212_islam.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-12/paying-them-not-kill-us)
"Did you know the Department of Homeland Security takes millions of your tax dollars and hands it over to Muslim organizations in America so they can try and convince their minions not to conduct a jihad against us? But now that they are turning down the money because of Trump, does that mean they will encourage their junior jihadists to violently oppose our society."

Feb 13, 2017 4:00 AM


Trump's Right - NATO Is Obsolete For The US (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/trumps-right-nato-obsolete-us)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170212_trump.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/trumps-right-nato-obsolete-us)
Trump’s approach to NATO has been forced on the US by the Europeans. NATO doesn’t work as an alliance. It is a group of sovereign nations that will respond to American requests as they see fit. The US knows this and at some point, someone was going to point out that NATO is obsolete.

Feb 13, 2017 2:00 AM


ZEROHEDGE (http://www.zerohedge.com/)

[turiya]

X22 NEWS REPORTS on
GEOPOLITICAL issues & the ECONOMIC COLLAPSE....


Something Dark Is Looming
And It's Headed Our Way
Episode 1200b
(Published on Feb 9, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SEEsby5Wl4____________________________

Current Economic Collapse News Brief
Episode 1202
(Published on Feb 12, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbVMkz-MGOQ____________________________

A New Report Projects The West
Will Become The New 'Third World'
Episode 1201a
(Published on Feb 10, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRkXSo5lt_c

[turiya]

FED Insider Danielle DiMartino Booth X22Report Spotlight Interview... "the FED is not working in the best interest of the People"...


Fed Insider Danielle DiMartino Booth :
We Have Been Put On Notice,
The Debt Is Unsustainable
(Published on Feb 13, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkGIsk5nZkY___________________________

[turiya]

A NEW JACKSONIAN ERA? (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/12/a-new-jacksonian-era/#more-141933)



“Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)


http://historynewsnetwork.org/sites/default/files/162259-aaseffhg.jpg



“There is nothing the political establishment will not do, and no lie they will not tell, to hold on to their prestige and power at your expense. The Washington establishment, and the financial and media corporations that fund it, exists for only one reason: to protect and enrich itself. This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not We The People reclaim control over our government. The political establishment that is trying everything to stop us, is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration, and economic and foreign policies that have bled this country dry.

The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs, as they flee to Mexico, China and other countries throughout the world. It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.” – Donald Trump

Andrew Jackson was a bigger than life figure who lived from the early stages of the American Revolution until the country was on the verge of splitting apart over slavery and states’ rights issues. Born in the Carolinas shortly after his father died in an accident, he acted as a courier during the Revolutionary War. Andrew and his brother Robert were captured by the British and held as prisoners and nearly starved to death in captivity.

When Andrew refused to clean the boots of a British officer, the officer slashed him with a sword, leaving deep scars on his left hand and head. His brother died of smallpox and his mother from cholera in 1781, leaving him an orphan at the age of 14. He blamed the British for their deaths and held an intense hatred of the British for the rest of his life.

Jackson was a grudge holder. He was a courageous military hero, nicknamed Old Hickory by his troops because of his toughness. He was combative and vindictive. He was a self-made lawyer, military leader and statesman. He was a wealthy plantation owner and merchant. Over one hundred and fifty slaves worked on his plantation.

He fought Indians, the British, politicians, and bankers. He was scorned and ridiculed by the press. Establishment politicians cheated him out of a presidential victory, but that loss motivated him to crush his political enemies in the next election. He was a devoted dependable friend to his compatriots and a steadfast adversary to those who crossed him.

If you think the fake news media and vitriolic political campaigns, personally attacking the families of candidates was a modern day phenomenon, you would be badly mistaken. American politics sinking into the sewer and sensationalistic journalism existed from the earliest days of our country. Jackson’s controversial marriage to Rachel Robards made Jackson resentful towards any attack on her honor. He had mistakenly married her before her divorce was official. An attack on their honor published in a local Nashville newspaper led Jackson to challenge Charles Dickinson to a duel.

Charles Dickinson was considered an expert shot. Jackson decided to let Dickinson fire first, betting his aim might be off in his haste. Dickinson did fire first striking Jackson just below the heart. The musket ball remained lodged in his lung for the rest of his life. Under the rules of dueling, Dickinson had to remain still as Jackson took aim and killed him. Jackson’s behavior in the duel outraged men of honor in Tennessee, who called it a brutal, cold-blooded killing and saddled Jackson with a reputation as a violent, vengeful man. As a result, he became a social outcast.

Jackson’s wound didn’t keep him from becoming a national military hero nine years later by leading his outnumbered troops to an overwhelming victory over the British at the Battle of New Orleans during the War of 1812. His hatred for the British going back to the Revolutionary War likely motivated him to defend New Orleans to the death. Jackson took command of the defenses, directing 5,000 militia from various Western states. He was a strict officer but was popular with his troops. Jackson’s soldiers won a crushing victory over 7,500 attacking British soldiers.


http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2013/11/battle-of-new-orleans-H.jpeg

The British had 2,037 casualties: 291 dead (including three senior generals), 1,262 wounded, and 484 captured or missing. The Americans had 71 casualties: 13 dead, 39 wounded, and 19 missing. This victory propelled him to national prominence and spurred his presidential aspirations. The common man saw Jackson as a populist hero. He continued to build his militaristic resume by defeating the Seminole and Creek Indians in Florida, who were secretly supported by the British and Spanish.

In another example of history rhyming, the 1824 presidential election was far more dysfunctional and corrupt than the most recent election campaign. There was essentially one political party, the Democrat-Republican Party. The states put forth four candidates: Andrew Jackson, William Crawford, John Quincy Adams, and Henry Clay. In a hotly contested campaign, filled with nasty accusations and condemnations, Jackson won the popular vote and a plurality of the electoral votes, but not a majority. Therefore, the decision went to the House of Representatives. As an establishment outsider, Jackson was at a disadvantage.

In what became known as the “Corrupt Bargain”, Henry Clay, the current Speaker of the House, convinced Congress to elect Adams, who then made Clay his Secretary of State. For the next four years Jackson and his supporters railed against the Adams administration calling it illegitimate and tainted by corruption and an aristocratic governing style. The Jacksonians rightly denounced the Adams administration for its pork barrel spending and rewarding of special interests. Jackson’s defeat burnished his political credentials as many voters believed the “man of the people” had been robbed by the “corrupt aristocrats of the East”.



“I weep for the liberty of my country when I see at this early day of its successful experiment that corruption has been imputed to many members of the House of Representatives, and the rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

He learned from his mistakes and built a coalition of support in 1828, with John C. Calhoun as his running mate and Martin Van Buren as a key ally. He created the Democratic Party and when his opponents referred to him as “jackass” he embraced the insult and used it as a symbol for his campaign. The donkey later became the symbol of the Democratic Party. The campaign was mean and personal with insults and accusation flying in the press. It reached a low point when the press accused Jackson’s wife Rachel of bigamy. Jackson won the election in an electoral landslide. Rachel died suddenly on December 22, 1828, before his inauguration, and was buried on Christmas Eve. The stress of the election led to her heart attack. He blamed Adams and his cronies for her death.

Jackson’s eight year presidency marked a turning point in American politics. He rode a wave of populism to victory and it marked the first time political power had passed from establishment elites to ordinary voters based in political parties. Jackson’s philosophy as President followed much in the same line as Thomas Jefferson, advocating Republican values held by the Revolutionary War generation. He attempted to conduct his presidency with high moral standards, but ultimately fell short.

He attempted to limit the Federal government, but when South Carolina opposed the tariff law he took a strong line in favor of nationalism and against secession. He also used the power of the Federal government to forcefully relocate Indian tribes to west of the Mississippi. He despised the moneyed interests and dismantled the Second Bank of the United States. His actions indirectly led to the Panic of 1837.

In another occurrence with similarities to Trump’s cabinet selections, Jackson believed the president’s power was derived from the common man. Instead of choosing hand-picked party cronies for his cabinet, he decided choosing businessmen, who would get things done and follow his lead, was the better course. Having headstrong businessmen with huge egos and vicious gossip mongering wives in his administration would have fit in nicely in our present day degraded Kardashian selfie culture. Salacious rumors and sex scandals led to bitter partisanship between Eaton, Calhoun and Van Buren. Jackson was forced to fire and revamp his entire cabinet in 1830.

The issue which most reflected Jackson as the president of the common man versus the vested interests was his struggle against Nicholas Biddle and the Second Bank of the United States. It was chartered in 1816 by James Madison in an effort to restore an economy ravaged by the War of 1812. Biddle attempted to renew its charter in 1832 and successfully got the renewal through Congress.

Jackson, believing that Bank was a corrupt monopoly whose stock was mostly held by foreigners, vetoed the bill. Jackson used the issue to endorse his democratic values, contending the Bank was being run by a den of vipers for the benefit of the wealthy elite. Jackson stated the Bank made “the rich richer and the potent more powerful”. He never stopped fighting for the common man.

“You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

His veto became the primary issue in the 1832 presidential campaign against Henry Clay, as his opponents rebuked his veto as the work of a demagogue, claiming he was using class warfare as a ploy to get the support of the common man. Proving a populist message brought directly to the people can defeat an establishment machine, Jackson crushed Clay in the election, with 55% of the popular vote and receiving 219 electoral votes to Clay’s 49. He warned the people against allowing central bankers to take control of the government. We didn’t heed his warning. Whether Trump has the courage of Jackson in taking on the Central banker den of vipers is yet to be seen.

“The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government … are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

Jackson knew powerful banking and corporate interests were the antithesis of how a government by the people, for the people and of the people should function. He also knew debt and fiat paper created a speculative gambling economy, not beneficial to the common man over the long-term. Giving away the power of the people to bankers and corporations created as much havoc and suffering in the 1830s as it has today.

“The mischief springs from the power which the moneyed interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges which they have succeeded in obtaining, and unless you become more watchful in your states and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of government have been given or bartered away.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

After disposing of the Bank of the United States in 1833, Jackson removed federal deposits from the bank and the money-lending functions were taken over by the multitude of local and state banks across America. The national economy boomed as the federal government coffers overflowed with revenue from tariffs and the sale of public lands in the west. In January 1835, Jackson paid off the entire national debt, the only time in U.S. history that has been accomplished. He rightfully saw the national debt as a curse, only benefitting the moneyed interests.

“I am one of those who do not believe that a national debt is a national blessing, but rather a curse to a republic; inasmuch as it is calculated to raise around the administration a moneyed aristocracy dangerous to the liberties of the country.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

I find it amusing historians of a Keynesian persuasion blame Jackson’s dismantling of the central bank in 1833 for the Panic of 1837 and the subsequent four year depression. The true cause of the Panic and depression was reckless land speculation by the rich, financed by state and local bankers who failed to exercise due diligence, risk management or restraint on their lending practices. Does that sound familiar (2008 Financial Crisis)? Bankers have been the perpetual cause of financial crisis since the inception of this country.

Jackson was forced to rein in the rampant credit bacchanal by issuing the Specie Circular, which required buyers of government land to pay in specie (gold or silver coins). This was another example of when the tide goes out you see who was swimming naked. The credit speculators had no gold or silver and bank losses threw the country into panic and depression. Just as the Fed induced housing boom and the Wall Street mortgage and derivatives control fraud were the cause of the 2008 financial crisis, it was banker fueled land speculation which caused the 1837 Panic. Jackson was just the pin popping the bubble before it got even bigger.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3h0jsWWIAE0cGm.jpg

The non-stop speculation about assassinating Trump as the left wing solution to losing a fair election has reached epic proportions on social media. Of course, cowardly social justice warriors, who don’t believe in free speech, election results, the Constitution, or the rule of law, are good at making hollow threats and causing destruction within their liberal enclaves of hate, but they don’t have the balls to actually attempt an assassination. Back in Jackson’s day of duels and face to face justice, there were no safe spaces and trigger warnings.

The first assassination attempt on a sitting president occurred in 1835 outside the U.S. Capitol when Richard Lawrence, an unemployed house painter from England, aimed two pistols at President Jackson as he was leaving the East Portico after a funeral. Both pistols misfired. As Lawrence was disarmed and restrained by, among others, Davey Crockett, Jackson attacked him with his cane. Lawrence blamed Jackson for the loss of his job.

Afterwards, due to public curiosity concerning the double misfires, the pistols were tested and retested. Each time they performed perfectly. Many believed Jackson had been protected by the same Providence they believed also protected their young nation. The incident became a part of the Jacksonian mythos.


http://a2.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTMzMTkyMTA1MTEwNTc1NTgy.jpg

There is no doubt Jackson and Trump have similarities in their confrontational natures, blunt talk and fiery tempers. Historian H.W. Brands noted how opponents were terrified of his temper in his autobiography of the iconic figure:

“Observers likened him to a volcano, and only the most intrepid or recklessly curious cared to see it erupt…. His close associates all had stories of his blood-curling oaths, his summoning of the Almighty to loose His wrath upon some miscreant, typically followed by his own vow to hang the villain or blow him to perdition. Given his record – in duels, brawls, mutiny trials, and summary hearings – listeners had to take his vows seriously.”
If twitter had existed in the 1830s, Jackson would have surely been hurling insults at his opponents and the feckless press. Jackson used his reputation for rage and fearsomeness to achieve his policy goals by intimidating his opponents. If you think Trump’s insults hurled at Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush and Chuck Schumer have been too un-presidential like, consider Jackson’s final thoughts about his two most hated political opponents.

“After eight years as President I have only two regrets: that I have not shot Henry Clay or hanged John C. Calhoun.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

It is fascinating how the intellectual elites of Jackson’s time had the same level of contempt for the common man as the arrogant ruling elite have for the “deplorables” inhabiting the towns and hamlets of flyover America today. Alexis de Tocqueville, a pretentious French intellectual, and contemporary of Andrew Jackson, treated Jackson, his presidency, and his supporters disdainfully in his book Democracy in America, written during Jackson’s presidency. The haughty condescension of the rich and powerful elite towards the plebs has spanned the ages, with the NYT, Washington Post and CNN scornfully filling the role of Tocqueville today.

“Far from wishing to extend the Federal power, the President belongs to the party which is desirous of limiting that power to the clear and precise letter of the Constitution, and which never puts a construction upon that act favorable to the government of the Union; far from standing forth as the champion of centralization, General Jackson is the agent of the state jealousies; and he was placed in his lofty station by the passions that are most opposed to the central government. It is by perpetually flattering these passions that he maintains his station and his popularity. General Jackson is the slave of the majority: he yields to its wishes, its propensities, and its demands–say, rather, anticipates and forestalls them.

General Jackson stoops to gain the favor of the majority; but when he feels that his popularity is secure, he overthrows all obstacles in the pursuit of the objects which the community approves or of those which it does not regard with jealousy. Supported by a power that his predecessors never had, he tramples on his personal enemies, whenever they cross his path, with a facility without example; he takes upon himself the responsibility of measures that no one before him would have ventured to attempt. He even treats the national representatives with a disdain approaching to insult; he puts his veto on the laws of Congress and frequently neglects even to reply to that powerful body. He is a favorite who sometimes treats his master roughly.” – Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America (https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-America-Alexis-Tocqueville/dp/0226805360/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=b713a3bf4242780b11fac16d17fe4694&creativeASIN=0226805360)

Andrew Jackson was most certainly a flawed human being, with a multitude of personal tragedies coalescing to form his persona and worldview. His hardscrabble upbringing, fighting nature, contempt for republican elitism, and disdain for the greedy acolytes of wealth and privilege, formed his political philosophy and popularity among average citizens. Jackson’s goal was to rid government of class preferences and shred the credit driven advantages of the wealthy minority, whose only concern was their personal wealth.

He dedicated himself to ridding the government of those who exploited the majority to benefit the few. Equal rights and limited government while ensuring the wealthy establishment cronies could not enrich themselves at the public trough by capturing the governmental levers of power and plundering the nation’s wealth, was the vision espoused by the Jacksonians.

By demonizing the moneyed aristocracy and supporting the common man, Jackson broadened electoral participation to include an overwhelming majority of white men. Jackson’s success in democratizing the political process works when an educated involved civic minded electorate is active in the process. As time passed and the electorate expanded, our democracy has devolved into a vote buying exercise of who promises the masses the most. Huge portions of the electorate are feeble minded, free sh¡t seeking ideologues, with no concern for the long-term sustainability of the nation. The voice of the people had been silenced by Deep State special interests until Trump’s unlikely victory in November.

The Jacksonian Era of operating government for the benefit of the people was short lived, as the power of the elites reconstituted among the Northern business interests and Southern planters – ultimately leading to the Civil War resolution and further expansion of Federal government power and control. Jackson’s efforts were noble but ultimately a failure. Will Trump’s rhetoric of taking back government for the people ultimately fail? Can the rich and powerful vested interests be defeated? The odds are heavily against Trump, but we are in for a spectacular fireworks display as history unfolds.

“It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their selfish purposes. Distinctions in society will always exist under every just government. Equality of talents, of education, or of wealth cannot be produced by human institutions. In the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society—the farmers, mechanics, and laborers—who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

In Part Two of this article I will ponder whether the Trumpian Era will see Trump’s populist agenda successfully implemented or whether we experience a spectacular failure.

THE BURNING PLATFORM (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/12/a-new-jacksonian-era/#more-141933)

[turiya]

Personally, I am sorry to see Lt Gen. Mike Flynn being 'pushed' out of his role with the Trump Administration... guess, we'll just have to see how this will go... Petraeus would be a bad, bad idea for his replacement, imo...


What Flynn flap reveals about
President Trump's inner circle
(Published on Feb 13, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwpitY8Faxc________________________

Krauthammer on Flynn:
This is a cover-up without a crime
(Published on Feb 13, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfXJJpabUIo________________________


Trump Security Team "In Turmoil" After Flynn Resignation, Russia Accuses US Of "Paranoia" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/trump-security-team-turmoil-after-flynn-resignation-russia-calls-it-internal-matter)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/flynn%20out.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/trump-security-team-turmoil-after-flynn-resignation-russia-calls-it-internal-matter)
Less than a month into the new administration, President Trump security team has been plunged into "turmoil (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-14/flynn-departure-leaves-trump-national-security-team-in-turmoil)" following last night's unexpected resignation announcement by his now former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn.

Feb 14, 2017 7:55 AM






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http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/831510532318429184)
The real story here is why are there so many
illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will
these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea
etc?

6:28 AM - 14 Feb 2017




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Trump Responds To Flynn Resignation: "The Real Story" Here Are The Illegal Leaks (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/trump-responds-flynn-resignation-real-story-here-are-illegal-leaks)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/trump%20face%203_27.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/trump-responds-flynn-resignation-real-story-here-are-illegal-leaks)
The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

Feb 14, 2017 9:47 AM



How can Trump combat the
determined enemy from within?
(Published on Feb 13, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm3DuSQxH0A


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[DNA]

So Joy Villa. yea the girl who had the balls to wear that amazing Trump dress to the Grammys. Bad-Ass right?

https://media.glamour.com/photos/58a0fa556e98bffb63815405/master/h_625,c_limit/JoyVilla-2.jpg


Anyway, I thought I would post her song, the video is dirt cheap, but the song isn't bad in so far as modern music is concerned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEVrGRcSoaY
PEVrGRcSoaY

[turiya]

So Joy Villa. yea the girl who had the balls to wear that amazing Trump dress to the Grammys. Bad-Ass right?

lol! Good one, DNA...

Gutfeld on the hypocritical double standards of the MSM....


Gutfeld: Media double standard
over immigration raids
(Published on Feb 13, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do4njusyPs8

[turiya]

Watch Sean Spicer Explain What Trump Knew (And When) About Mike Flynn - Live Feed (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/watch-sean-spicer-explain-what-trump-knew-and-when-about-mike-flynn-live-feed)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/Sean%20Spicer.JPG (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/watch-sean-spicer-explain-what-trump-knew-and-when-about-mike-flynn-live-feed)
After a rather turbulent 24 hours for the Trump administration, Sean Spicer will take the podium momentarily to address questions from a press pool that will undoubtedly be eager to reveal and exploit new details about what Trump knew about Flynn's conversations with Russia and when he knew it.

Feb 14, 2017 1:16 PM


Press Briefing with Press Secretary Sean Spicer
(Actually Begins at 41:00)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be4-srnD5Lk



GOP Chair Of House Oversight Committee Declines Calls To Investigate Flynn Situation (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/house-oversight-committee-declines-calls-investigate-flynn-situation)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/Jason%20Chaffetz_1.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/house-oversight-committee-declines-calls-investigate-flynn-situation)
"I think that situation has taken care of itself..."

Feb 14, 2017 11:56 AM



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[Cidersomerset]

I've kept off here Turiya as I get a bit post happy sometimes but this is one
of the issues I've been waiting on , it may just be to keep the press happy ?
but it is pretty sharp.....

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I just posted this on the other thread..... (Spicer: Trump asked for Flynn's resignation)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1134233&viewfull=1#post1134233






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Mod edit from Bill: Thanks for acknowledging that you do indeed 'get a bit post happy sometimes'. (I acknowledge that you do, too.)

It's fine to cross-post — but within reason. When the cross-posts are long, and contain often more than one video, this really does cause


pages to load slowly sometimes, and
some members, who are following both threads anyway, to become irritated.

My suggestion is to do as above (as per my edit), which is to just post the link to the original post, with a very brief content summary. THX. :handshake:

[turiya]

Thanks Cider... I agree that you get a bit "post happy." And, what you've just now posted has already been posted in Post #65 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1134210&viewfull=1#post1134210) (above your post) starting at 41:00... Please stick to posting on the other thread.
I've left it entirely in your hands.
Thanks again.
Best regards...


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https://www.johndenugent.com/images/paul-craig-roberts-banner-march-2016.jpg (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/)

The Neocons and the “deep state” have
neutered the Trump Presidency (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/03/can-trump-fix-the-economy-in-2017-paul-craig-roberts/)
— Guest Post by The Saker
February 14, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns
Less than a month ago I warned that a ‘color revolution ‘ was taking place in the USA (http://thesaker.is/a-color-revolution-is-under-way-in-the-united-states/). My first element of proof was the so-called “investigation” which the CIA, FBI, NSA and others were conducting against President Trump’s candidate to become National Security Advisor, General Flynn. Tonight, the plot to get rid of Flynn has finally succeeded and General Flynn had to offer his resignation (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38965557). Trump accepted it.

Now let’s immediately get one thing out of the way: Flynn was hardly a saint or a perfect wise man who would single handedly saved the world. That he was not. However, what Flynn was is the cornerstone of Trump’s national security policy. For one thing, Flynn dared the unthinkable: he dared to declare that the bloated US intelligence community had to be reformed. Flynn also tried to subordinate the CIA and the Joint Chiefs to the President via the National Security Council. Put differently, Flynn tried to wrestle the ultimate power and authority from the CIA and the Pentagon and subordinate them back to the White House. Flynn also wanted to work with Russia. Not because he was a Russia lover, the notion of a Director of the DIA as a Putin-fan is ridiculous, but Flynn was rational, he understood that Russia was no threat to the USA or to Europe and that Russia had the West had common interests. That is another absolutely unforgivable crimethink in Washington DC.

The Neocon run ‘deep state’ has now forced Flynn to resign under the idiotic pretext that he had a telephone conversation, on an open, insecure and clearly monitored, line with the Russian ambassador.

And Trump accepted this resignation.

Ever since Trump made it to the White House, he has taken blow after blow from the Neocon-run Ziomedia, from Congress, from all the Hollywood doubleplusgoodthinking “stars” and even from European politicians. And Trump took each blow without ever fighting back. Nowhere was his famous “you are fired!” to be seen. But I still had hope. I wanted to hope. I felt that it was my duty to hope.

But now Trump has betrayed us all.

Remember how Obama showed his true face when he hypocritically denounced his friend and pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.? (https://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/obama-condemns-pastors-statements/?_r=0) Today, Trump has shown us his true face. Instead of refusing Flynn’s resignation and instead of firing those who dared cook up these ridiculous accusations against Flynn, Trump accepted the resignation. This is not only an act of abject cowardice, it is also an amazingly stupid and self-defeating betrayal because now Trump will be alone, completely alone, facing the likes of Mattis and Pence – hard Cold Warrior types, ideological to the core, folks who want war and simply don’t care about reality.

Again, Flynn was not my hero. But he was, by all accounts, Trump’s hero. And Trump betrayed him.

The consequences of this will be immense. For one thing, Trump is now clearly broken. It took the ‘deep state’ only weeks to castrate Trump and to make him bow to the powers that be. Those who would have stood behind Trump will now feel that he will not stand behind them and they will all move back away from him. The Neocons will feel elated by the elimination of their worst enemy and emboldened by this victory they will push on, doubling-down over and over and over again.

It’s over, folks, the deep state has won.

From now on, Trump will become the proverbial shabbos-goy, the errand boy of the Israel lobby. Hassan Nasrallah was right when he called him ‘an idiot’ (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/224872).

The Chinese and Iranian will openly laugh. The Russians won’t – they will be polite, they will smile, and try to see if some common sense policies can still be salvaged from this disaster. Some might. But any dream of a partnership between Russia and the United States has died tonight.

The EU leaders will, of course, celebrate. Trump was nowhere the scary bogeyman they feared. Turns out that he is a doormat – very good for the EU.

Where does all this leave us – the millions of anonymous ‘deplorables’ who try as best we can to resist imperialism, war, violence and injustice?
I think that we were right in our hopes because that is all we had – hopes. No expectations, just hopes. But now we objectively have very little reasons left to hope. For one thing, the Washington ‘swamp’ will not be drained. If anything, the swamp has triumphed. We can only find some degree of solace in two undeniable facts:

1) Hillary would have been far worse than any version of a Trump Presidency.

2) In order to defeat Trump, the US deep state has had to terribly weaken the US and the AngloZionist Empire. Just like Erdogan’ purges have left the Turkish military in shambles, the anti-Trump ‘color revolution’ has inflicted terrible damage on the reputation, authority and even credibility of the USA.

The first one is obvious. So let me clarify the second one. In their hate-filled rage against Trump and the American people (aka “the basket of deplorables”) the Neocons have had to show their true face.

By their rejection of the outcome of the elections, by their riots, their demonization of Trump, the Neocons have shown two crucial things:

first, that the US democracy is a sad joke and that they, the Neocons, are an occupation regime which rules against the will of the American people. In other words, just like Israel, the USA has no legitimacy left.

And since, just like Israel, the USA are unable to frighten their enemies, they are basically left with nothing, no legitimacy, no ability to coerce.
So yes, the Neocons have won. But their victory is removes the last chance for the US to avoid a collapse.

Trump, for all his faults, did favor the US, as a country, over the global Empire. Trump was also acutely aware that ‘more of the same’ was not an option. He wanted policies commensurate with the actual capabilities of the USA. With Flynn gone and the Neocons back in full control – this is over. Now we are going to be right back to ideology over reality.

Trump probably could have made America, well, maybe not “great again”, but at least stronger, a major world power which could negotiate and use its leverage to get the best deal possible from the others. That’s over now. With Trump broken, Russia and China will go right back to their pre-Trump stance: a firm resistance backed by a willingness and capability to confront and defeat the USA at any level.

I am quite sure that nobody today is celebrating in the Kremlin. Putin, Lavrov and the others surely understand exactly what happened. It is as if Khodorkovsy would have succeeded in breaking Putin in 2003. In fact, I have to credit Russian analysts who for several weeks already have been comparing Trump to Yanukovich, who also was elected by a majority of the people and who failed to show the resolve needed to stop the ‘color revolution’ started against him. But if Trump is the new Yanukovich, will the US become the next Ukraine?

Flynn was very much the cornerstone of the hoped-for Trump foreign policy. There was a real chance that he would reign in the huge, bloated and all-powerful three letter agencies and that he would focus US power against the real enemy of the West: the Wahabis. With Flynn gone, this entire conceptual edifice has now come down. We are going to be left with the likes of Mattis and his anti-Iranian statements. Clowns who only impress other clowns.

Today Neocon victory is a huge event and it will probably be completely misrepresented by the official media. Ironically, Trump supporters will also try to minimize it all. But the reality is that barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle, it’s over for Trump and the hopes of millions of people in the USA and the rest of the world who had hoped that the Neocons could be booted out of power by means of a peaceful election. That is clearly not going to happen.





I see very dark clouds on the horizon.

The Saker (http://thesaker.is/the-neocons-and-the-deep-state-have-neutered-the-trump-presidency-its-over-folks/)

UPDATE 1: Just to stress an important point: the disaster is not so much that Flynn is out but what Trump’s caving in to the Neocon tells us about Trump’s character (or lack thereof). Ask yourself – after what happened to Flynn, would you stick your neck out for Trump?

UPDATE 2: Just as predicted – the Neocons are celebrating and, of course, doubling-down:


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/SAKER_ARTICLE_IMAGE_FLYNN_IS_GONE.png (http://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Neocon-double-down-1024x545.jpg)

[Eram]

Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

not good.

[turiya]

Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

not good.

Yep... read my post above yours.
Thanks.

[Eram]

Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

not good.

Yep... read my post above yours.
Thanks.

I read that Saker article from Herve already some hours back in another thread and still hoped that other explanations might offer a more hopeful perspective. Perhaps some facts that we were still unaware off.

In any case, let's not loose all hope at once.

Let's see how the coming weeks will unfold.
.. and! who will be the successor for Flinn.

[turiya]

Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

not good.

Yep... read my post above yours.
Thanks.

I read that Saker article from Herve already some hours back in another thread and still hoped that other explanations might offer a more hopeful perspective. Perhaps some facts that we were still unaware off.

In any case, let's not loose all hope at once.

Let's see how the coming weeks will unfold.
.. and! who will be the successor for Flinn.

Hi Eram - if you noticed in the above Saker article, I underlined the statement:



..."barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle..."
If you've been following the Trump Saga like most of us, here... Trump seems to be well-protected. Almost, as if there is some guiding force that's got his back. He's been a phenomenon that most have been unable to understand how he has things happen for him... Totally Unpredictable... Overcoming tremedous odds => The election win - the Democrats - his own Republican Party - the Media - the Deep State.

My Higher Source tells me that this man is not done! as The Saker article says.

Its truly been an awesome thing to watch - this Trump thing - its a truly remarkable journey to be on, just watching this...

So, I just say, hang on to your hat(s), because the show is, still, just getting started...

[PurpleLama]

http://www.voltairenet.org/article195279.html

[AutumnW]

Yep, Turiya, the show is just getting started. I would lay odds that what is happening is Trump is just being himself. He doesn't know what is going on in the world so is very vulnerable to manipulation along those lines. He has proclaimed recently that he wants Russia to give Crimea back to the Ukraine. Is this an about face? No, the man probably had no idea where and what Crimea is or was, who it belonged to, or any of those other 'nuances.'

Trump supporters have been projecting their own diligent understanding of foreign affairs onto Trump and creating a narrative where good is battling evil. In fact, aside from his ego, Trump is kind of vacuous and blank. He stands for nothing at all, other than for himself.

[turiya]

Oh! And, here's another one that's hit the 'ignore' list... you guys ought to get together & play some Pinochle, as I can rightly assume playing Hearts is beyond possible... :)


Hillary Trolls Michael Flynn On Twitter With PizzaGate Reference (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/hillary-trolls-michael-flynn-twitter-pizzagate-reference)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/Hillary%209-11_3.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/hillary-trolls-michael-flynn-twitter-pizzagate-reference)
"Dear Mike Flynn & Mike Flynn Jr., What goes around COMETS around."

Feb 14, 2017 2:15 PM


Meet The Man Most Likely To Replace Mike Flynn (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/meet-man-most-likely-replace-mike-flynn)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/harward.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-14/meet-man-most-likely-replace-mike-flynn)
Meet Vice Admiral Robert Harward: former deputy commander of the U.S. Central Command and Chief Executive Officer for Lockheed Martin in the UAE, who has emerged as the front-runner to replace Michael Flynn as the White House national security adviser.

Feb 14, 2017 2:37 PM


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[bettye198]

Another media example that takes one bad apple, throws away the case and inflicts harm on the apple picker.
I for one, do not listen to propaganda and make my enjoyment watching bullies fling mud at each other. Especially when No One has the real facts or the real story.

[turiya]

Another media example that takes one bad apple, throws away the case and inflicts harm on the apple picker.
I for one, do not listen to propaganda and make my enjoyment watching bullies fling mud at each other. Especially when No One has the real facts or the real story.
From my view, Lt. General Michael Flynn had done well in his attempt to convince the Obama administration NOT to fund & equip the so-called "moderate" rebels in Syria (much to the joy of war mongering Neocons John McCain & Lindsay Graham). In an interview (https://youtu.be/SG3j8OYKgn4) with noted award winning journalist Mehdi Hasan, Flynn showed that he, at least, understood that the direction that the Obama administration had taken was ill advised, while ignoring the "intelligence" that he provided, as being head of DIA.

In this regard, Flynn fell short in understanding that it is the Deep State / CIA lay at the very root with its creation of the Radical Islamic Terrorism - See George Webb videos, regarding the Rat Lines that involve Dyncorp (CIA) & several military generals feeding Stinger missiles to the ISIS / terrorists.

So, now that Flynn has been pushed off the Trump Team, that leaves the door open for Trump to receive better intelligence as to what is really going on with the crap that underlies, not only ISIS in Syria, but what has been going on with the coup in Ukraine.

Time will tell...

In the meantime, there's this X22 Report...


Is Obama Creating An Army Of Agitators
To Go Up Against Trump?
Episode 1203b
(Published on Feb 13, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt2KW57kquA

[Helene West]

Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

not good.

Yep... read my post above yours.
Thanks.

I read that Saker article from Herve already some hours back in another thread and still hoped that other explanations might offer a more hopeful perspective. Perhaps some facts that we were still unaware off.

In any case, let's not loose all hope at once.

Let's see how the coming weeks will unfold.
.. and! who will be the successor for Flinn.

Hi Eram - if you noticed in the above Saker article, I underlined the statement:



..."barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle..."
If you've been following the Trump Saga like most of us, here... Trump seems to be well-protected. Almost, as if there is some guiding force that's got his back. He's been a phenomenon that most have been unable to understand how he has things happen for him... Totally Unpredictable... Overcoming tremedous odds => The election win - the Democrats - his own Republican Party - the Media - the Deep State.

My Higher Source tells me that this man is not done! as The Saker article says.

Its truly been an awesome thing to watch - this Trump thing - its a truly remarkable journey to be on, just watching this...

So, I just say, hang on to your hat(s), because the show is, still, just getting started...


I have to admit I'm becoming a wee bit dependent on Turiya optimism!
I've been for many years one of probable millions of 'alt' pessimists that had already given up hope, not seeing enough aware and strong people around. I had assumed years ago we will be latinized and islamified, made more violent, stupid, amoral, poor and controlled.

I didn't expect him to be elected let alone expect miracles from him and I won't condemn him like some 'alt' folks already have in finding that, surprise, surprise, he will probably be coerced in several areas. Why will that be shocking and so disappointing? We've been under the thumb of globalists for over a century. I've often wondered if they threatened Woodrow Wilson's family to get him to sign the Federal Reserve Act.

If this man is able to put five fingers in five cracks in the dam, considering the reach and power of the oligarchs, that in my book will be a lot.

[turiya]

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(1/10/2017)
Hour 1 - Attorney Jonathan Emord -
Sanctuary Cities & Dem Obstructionism

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Jonathan Emord Website (http://www.emord.com/)
Topics:



Trump is doing more than expected to Strengthen this country
Eastern Europe & American dominance over NATO
Establishing a check on Russia desire to expand world domination
North Korea destabilization
Ruddy Reince Preibus as Chief of Staff (Daily Caller article)
Ninth Circuit totally wrong - Irresponsible Decision
John DeStefano selected as Director of presidential personnel
Some problems
ObamaCare & the Republicans
Immigration & another EO - Three Options - Saudi Arabia
Mindless Open Border Policy
Sanctuary Cities - Mindless Obstructionism



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Catherine Austin Fitts Interview... Insightful...


Jeff Rense & Catherine Austin Fitts -
Brilliant Explanation Of What Trump…
And We…Are Now Facing
(Published on Feb 1, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx9_paDhpQs
Topics:

Billionaire Steve Wynn (https://i2.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/wynn_trump.jpg?fit=632%2C575): Now Head of RNC:

“I look forward to helping President Trump and his Administration make America greater again for the people who work hard every day,” Wynn said in a press release. “Our goal is to bring together people of all backgrounds to meet the challenge of making a better life for all Americans.” -- Forbes Staff (http://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2017/02/01/trumps-rival-turned-pal-billionaire-steve-wynn-named-rnc-finance-chair/#600a782c2a17)



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In retreat
The multinational company is in trouble (http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21715660-global-firms-are-surprisingly-vulnerable-attack-multinational-company-trouble)
Global firms are surprisingly vulnerable to attack
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Jan 28th 2017
AMONG the many things that Donald Trump dislikes are big global firms. Faceless and rootless, they stand accused of unleashing “carnage” on ordinary Americans by shipping jobs and factories abroad. His answer is to domesticate these marauding multinationals. Lower taxes will draw their cash home, border charges will hobble their cross-border supply chains and the trade deals that help them do business will be rewritten. To avoid punitive treatment, “all you have to do is stay,” he told American bosses this week.

Mr Trump is unusual in his aggressively protectionist tone. But in many ways he is behind the times. Multinational companies, the agents behind global integration, were already in retreat well before the populist revolts of 2016. Their financial performance has slipped so that they are no longer outstripping local firms. Many seem to have exhausted their ability to cut costs and taxes and to out-think their local competitors. Mr Trump’s broadsides are aimed at companies that are surprisingly vulnerable and, in many cases, are already heading home. The impact on global commerce will be profound.

The end of the arbitrage

Multinational firms (those that do a large chunk of their business outside their home region) employ only one in 50 of the world’s workers. But they matter. A few thousand firms influence what billions of people watch, wear and eat. The likes of IBM, McDonald’s, Ford, H&M, Infosys, Lenovo and Honda have been the benchmark for managers. They co-ordinate the supply chains that account for over 50% of all trade. They account for a third of the value of the world’s stockmarkets and they own the lion’s share of its intellectual property—from lingerie designs to virtual-reality software and diabetes drugs.

They boomed in the early 1990s, as China and the former Soviet bloc opened and Europe integrated. Investors liked global firms’ economies of scale and efficiency. Rather than running themselves as national fiefs, firms unbundled their functions. A Chinese factory might use tools from Germany, have owners in the United States, pay taxes in Luxembourg and sell to Japan. Governments in the rich world dreamed of their national champions becoming world-beaters. Governments in the emerging world welcomed the jobs, exports and technology that global firms brought. It was a golden age.

Central to the rise of the global firm was its claim to be a superior moneymaking machine. That claim lies in tatters (see Briefing). In the past five years the profits of multinationals have dropped by 25%. Returns on capital have slipped to their lowest in two decades. A strong dollar and a low oil price explain part of the decline. Technology superstars and consumer firms with strong brands are still thriving. But the pain is too widespread and prolonged to be dismissed as a blip. About 40% of all multinationals make a return on equity of less than 10%, a yardstick for underperformance. In a majority of industries they are growing more slowly and are less profitable than local firms that stayed in their backyard. The share of global profits accounted for by multinationals has fallen from 35% a decade ago to 30% now. For many industrial, manufacturing, financial, natural-resources, media and telecoms companies, global reach has become a burden, not an advantage.

SOURCE (http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21715660-global-firms-are-surprisingly-vulnerable-attack-multinational-company-trouble)
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August 25, 2016
The Broken Chessboard:
Brzezinski Gives Up on Empire (http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/25/the-broken-chessboard-brzezinski-gives-up-on-empire/)
by Mike Whitney (http://www.counterpunch.org/author/mike-whitney/)

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[turiya]

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CIA broke the law to take out
its critic General Flynn

February 14, 2017
By Thomas Lifson (http://www.americanthinker.com/author/thomas_lifson/)
Make no mistake: we have just witnessed an operation by members of the CIA to take out a high official of our own government. An agency widely believed to have brought down democratically elected governments overseas is now practicing the same dark arts in domestic American politics. Almost certainly, its new head, Mike Pompeo, was not consulted.

Senator Chuck Schumer, of all people, laid out on January 2 what was going to happen (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/312605-schumer-trump-being-really-dumb-by-going-after-intelligence-community) to the Trump administration if it dared take on the deep state – the permanent bureaucracy that has contempt for the will of the voters and feels entitled to run the government for its own benefit:

New Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (http://thehill.com/people/charles-schumer) (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump (http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) is "being really dumb" by taking on the intelligence community and its assessments on Russia's cyber activities.

"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.

"So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this."
Or, as the old rueful saying has it, "you've got to go along to get along." This means that we the people had better acknowledge that the bureaucrats have turned into our masters, and the old expression "public servant" is as ironic as anything Orwell came up with. Schumer knows this and likes it, because the deep state wants a bigger, more powerful government, just as he does.

Note that the law was broken by whoever leaked the transcripts to the media. Not only is the crime underlying the "scandal" being ignored, but the criminals are being hailed. On Morning Joe's first hour today, the host, a former congressman (i.e., a lawmaker) himself, called the leakers "heroes."

This interference in domestic politics by the CIA should be regarded as a major threat to our democracy, but of course our Trump-hating domestic media are reveling in a major point scored against the new president.

David P. Goldman (aka Spengler), writing on PJ Media (https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/02/13/the-cia-really-is-out-to-get-general-flynn/), explains the level of hatred the CIA has for Flynn for daring to take on its spectacular failures:

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… the CIA has gone out of its way to sandbag Flynn at the National Security Council. As Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mike-flynn-nsa-aide-trump-234923) reports: "On Friday, one of Flynn's closest deputies on the NSC, senior director for Africa Robin Townley, was informed that the Central Intelligence Agency had rejected his request for an elite security clearance required for service on the NSC, according to two people with direct knowledge of the situation." Townley held precisely the same security clearance at the Department of Defense for seventeen years, yet he was blackballed without explanation. At DoD, Townley had a stellar reputation as a Middle East and Africa expert, and the denial of his clearance is hard to explain except as bureaucratic backstabbing.

... Gen. Flynn is the hardest of hardliners with respect to Russia within the Trump camp. In his 2016 book Field of Fight (co-authored with PJ Media's Michael Ledeen), Flynn warned of "an international alliance of evil movements and countries that is working to destroy us[.] ... The war is on. We face a working coalition that extends from North Korea and China to Russia, Iran, Syria, Syria, Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua." The unsubstantiated allegation that he presides over a "leaky" National Security Council tilting towards Russia makes no sense. The only leaks of which we know are politically motivated reports coming from the intelligence community designed to disrupt the normal workings of a democratic government – something that raises grave constitutional issues.

Flynn is the one senior U.S. intelligence officer with the guts to blow the whistle on a series of catastrophic intelligence and operational failures. The available facts point to the conclusion that elements of the humiliated (and perhaps soon-to-be-unemployed) intelligence community is trying to exact vengeance against a principled and patriotic officer[.] ... The present affair stinks like a dumpster full of dead rats.
Note that the suspicions eagerly being raised by the media center on Trump being a pawn of Putin and Flynn secretly pledging fealty or some such absurd subordination. In other words, suspicions of treasonous behavior by the new president are being cultivated in the general public. We can expect the media to fan these flames at every opportunity.

Spengler also explains why the Logan Act references are insulting:

Senior officials speak to their counterparts in other countries all the time, and for obvious reasons do not want these conversations to become public. The intelligence community, though, was taping Flynn's discussions, and the transcripts (of whose existence we are told but whose contents we have not seen) were used to embarrass him.
This last point is critical. The entire "scandal" is based on innuendo. Flynn tripped over his own feet by misinforming Vice President Pence on the nature of his call and allowing the veep to issue a too sweeping denial of any discussion. If Flynn had said in his conversation with the Russian ambassador that we will discuss the sanctions after Trump takes office, he might well have told Pence that they did not discuss the sanctions. And the CIA leakers could have used the appearance of the word "sanctions" in their transcript to brand Pence a liar. We don't know, and for some reason, nobody is gaining access to the actual transcripts so that we may see the content. Perhaps the congressional investigations to come will gain access. But Flynn is now gone, and media memes have been firmly planted in the public mind.

The Flynn Affair is a huge scandal, all right. But the media are misdirecting our attention toward the lesser dimension while they studiously ignore the real threat to our democracy.

SOURCE (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/02/cia_broke_the_law_to_take_out_its_critic_general_flynn.html)





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[turiya]

Gerald Celente brings his many cents worth on the Michael Flynn take-down...
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Gerald Celente-Debt
Crisis Builds-Buy Gold
(Published on Feb 14, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OORHlfOTpYk

[turiya]

A NEW JACKSONIAN ERA?
(PART TWO) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/13/a-new-jacksonian-era-part-two/)


In Part One (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/12/a-new-jacksonian-era/) of this article I documented the populist administration of Andrew Jackson and similarities to Donald Trump’s populist victory in the recent election. I’ll now try to assess the chances of a Trump presidency accomplishing its populist agenda.

The Trumpian Era



“But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their own selfish purposes.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)

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“For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered, but the jobs left and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. And while they celebrated in our nation’s capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land. What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th, 2017 will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.” – Donald J. Trump – Inaugural Speech


It is not a coincidence the painting in the oval office behind President Trump’s desk is of Andrew Jackson. He has promoted his presidency as a Jacksonian quest to return government to the people. His chief strategist Steve Bannon, a student of history, helped mold Trump’s speech with echoes of Jacksonian populism:

“It was an unvarnished declaration of the basic principles of his populist and kind of nationalist movement. It was given, I think, in a very powerful way. I don’t think we’ve had a speech like that since Andrew Jackson came to the White House. But you could see it was very Jacksonian. It’s got a deep, deep root of patriotism there.”

Jon Meacham, the author of the 2008 biography of Jackson “American Lion,” (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461) said the moment in which the 45th president was taking office was “unquestionably Jacksonian.” Meacham notes the similarities between Jackson and Trump as outsiders who shook up the establishment status quo. Their pugilistic natures struck fear into the hearts of Washington insiders, upending their insular corrupt scheme of rewarding themselves at the expense of the common man.

“Jackson was the first president who was not a Virginia planter or an Adams from Massachusetts. The establishment at the time saw his election as a potentially destabilizing democratic moment in what was largely a republican culture.”
Jackson had pledged to sweep corruption out of Washington, comparing it to the herculean task of mucking out a “giant Augean stable.” Trump’s pledge to “drain the swamp” in Washington DC parallels Jackson’s rhetoric. The establishment of the 1820s was still focused on Britain, the king and their own aristocratic schemes until Jackson was elected by the “mob of peasants”, shattering their comfortable insular existence. The arrogant privileged establishment has treated Trump with contempt and scorn during his entire run for the presidency.

Their fear and loathing has reached epic proportions as their ill-gotten favored status is in danger of being obliterated by Trump’s ascension to power through an overwhelming victory propelled by “the deplorables”. The establishment never goes down without a fight. The establishment has survived for two centuries like cockroaches who can’t be exterminated, as the commoners have proven to be easily manipulated and always open to bribes. Our descent into democracy has made each election is an advance sale on stolen goods.

Most new presidents, including Barack Obama, receive a honeymoon period where they are allowed to pick their cabinet and set an agenda with only token opposition from their political opponents. The people have spoken and the country usually comes together to support the new president. Both Trump and Jackson did not receive that courtesy. Jackson was confronted by a hostile Congress during his entire eight year presidency. His agenda of fighting against the powerful entrenched interests in Washington DC, while expanding presidential powers and the radical agenda of giving more power to the people, immediately provoked a hostile response from the vested interests.

History is not only rhyming this time, but the response from the fetid establishment creatures of both parties inhabiting the swamps of DC is identical to the response received by Jackson almost 200 years ago. Trump’s honeymoon didn’t last 5 minutes, as Soros and his well paid domestic terrorist organizations have waged non-stop violent protests on behalf of the corrupt establishment. The level of disgruntlement and faux outrage from the left-wing establishment, right-wing neo-cons, and their corporate media mouthpieces, with the results of the election is historic in its level of intense hatred, dishonesty, and blatant disregard for facts.

The Deep State ruling elite are quite happy with the existing nomenclature of pillage, obfuscation, and propaganda which has kept them in control for decades, if not centuries. Despite popular support for his agenda, Trump will be met with non-stop resistance from the rich liberal elites, globalist billionaires, Hollywood nutjobs, left wing media fake news outlets, low IQ social justice warriors, and a myriad of other useful idiots manipulated by Soros and his cronies. It is going to be a long tough slog, with a high likelihood of civil chaos in the streets. Even Jackson didn’t meet this level of resistance.

The issue providing fodder for the hypocritical left wingers, who never protested for one second in the last eight years as their Nobel Peace Prize winning savior Barack Obama droned and killed thousands of innocent Muslims in the Middle East, is a temporary travel ban from seven failed states in the Middle East and the construction of a border wall to stop the mass of illegal immigrants pouring across our southern border.

Our already fraying social welfare safety net cannot withstand the addition of millions more illegal immigrants and Muslim refugees unwilling to assimilate and incapable of being productive tax paying members of society. The pandemonium, crime and terrorism engulfing Europe are as clear a warning as any critical thinking person should need. But their appears to be no critical thinkers on the left.

Islam is a religion of hate and the only religion where their zealots kill in the name of their god. They do not assimilate into our society, learn our language, respect our Constitution or obey our laws. Sharia law is their only law. The feminazis, genderless activists, communist judges and other left wing bomb throwers express outrage and rage towards Trumps executive actions.

Their hypocrisy and obtuseness is a wonder to behold as the Saudis and other Muslim nations treat women like dogs, while imprisoning and killing gays. Obama droning Muslim wedding parties, blowing up a Doctors Without Borders hospital, and causing a refugee crisis in Libya, Syria and Yemen didn’t generate a peep from the left wing, but a temporary travel ban from a few countries brings hundreds of thousands into the streets to protest the racist, misogynist, xenophobe Donald Trump. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

Trump’s divisive illegal immigration stance and rhetoric to send them back to Mexico echoes the most controversial issue of Jackson’s presidency – the Indian Removal Act of 1830. The Indian “issue” had plagued the country even before sovereignty from Britain. Previous administrations had tried to ignore the issue as settlers moved westward and clashed with Indian tribes in the South and North. Jackson was not one to ignore problems. The Act authorized the President to negotiate treaties to buy tribal lands in the east in exchange for lands farther west, outside of existing U.S. state borders. Jackson did not have a high opinion of the Indian tribes he relocated.

“That those tribes [the Sac and Fox Indians] cannot exist surrounded by our settlements and in continual contact with our citizens is certain. They have neither the intelligence, the industry, the moral habits, nor the desire of improvement which are essential to any favorable change in their condition.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)
More than 45,000 American Indians were forcibly relocated to the West during Jackson’s administration. He is blamed for the Cherokee Trail of Tears, where 4,000 Indians died during their journey westward. This was a human tragedy that could have been alleviated by a more humane relocation plan. This actually happened in 1838 under the Van Buren administration.

Historians are divided regarding Jackson’s treatment of the Indian tribes. There was no stopping the western expansion of white settlers. Violent clashes between Indians and white settlers were a growing problem. Further fierce conflict was inevitable. By moving these tribes west of the Mississippi, some contend Jackson saved more Indian lives than were lost on the journey. It will always be regarded as the most controversial issue of Jackson’s presidency.

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The major difference between Trump’s plan to relocate Mexicans back to their country and keep more from entering the country, is they are here illegally. The Indians were on their land first. The government forcefully seized their land and used the military to relocate them outside of the current borders. Trump’s moral standing is higher than Jackson’s. Spineless politicians have ignored the illegal immigration issue for decades, but the law is clear. Without the rule of law and enforceable borders, our country will die a slow death. Time will tell how history judges Trump’s policies regarding illegal immigrants and refugees.

Jackson’s vow to purge the government of corruption and reduce the influence of moneyed interests echoes Trump’s campaign promises to drain the swamp. Jackson launched presidential investigations into all executive Cabinet offices and departments. Jackson believed appointees should be hired on merit. Jackson was truly a reformer as he asked Congress to restructure embezzlement laws, reduce fraudulent applications for federal pensions, streamline revenue laws to prevent evasion of custom duties, and strengthen laws to improve government accounting. Like Trump, Jackson was a strong supporter of veterans. The Service Pension Act of 1832 provided pensions to veterans while another act enabled widows of Revolutionary War soldiers, who met certain criteria, to receive their husband’s pensions.

Trump filling his cabinet with billionaire business people is his Jacksonian attempt to breathe competence and accountability into government departments. Trump’s theory is successful business people who can’t be bought off by special interests will be able to reform their departments and bring a business-like atmosphere to a dysfunctional bureaucratic government establishment. It’s guaranteed Trump’s administration will not be like any before it. Success would infuriate the left and provide elation to Trump’s everyday normal American supporters. The danger with all administrations, as Jackson warned, is factions are formed which endanger the liberties of the people.

“It is from within, among yourselves–from cupidity, from corruption, from disappointed ambition and nordinate thirst for power–that factions will be formed and liberty endangered. It is against such designs, whatever disguise the actors may assume, that you have especially to guard yourselves.” – Andrew Jackson (https://www.amazon.com/AMERICAN-LION-Andrew-Jackson-White/dp/0812973461/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=8d0d436e26dedfbf4dbaaa4dc107146c&creativeASIN=0812973461)
Jackson’s theory regarding rotation of office with competent administrators generated what would later be called the spoils system. The political realities of Washington, however, ultimately forced Jackson to make partisan appointments despite his personal reservations. Ultimately, his effort to reform government and make it operate more efficiently and for the benefit of the people failed. Introducing ethics into an unethical corrupt system is doomed to failure.

It is very likely Trump’s billionaire, high performing, large ego, results oriented cabinet members will grow increasingly frustrated with the Washington bureaucracy, back stabbing and gridlock. It won’t be anything like running a business and most will resign before the first term is over. This would also echo Jackson having to replace most of his cabinet during his first term.

This brings us to the two most crucial aspects of any president’s success or failure –foreign policy and monetary policy. Trump’s campaign rhetoric sounded much like Bush Junior’s bombast during the 2000 presidential campaign. No nation building, no invading sovereign countries, stop provoking Russia, and defending our southern border were his campaign promises.

Even though Jackson was a military hero, his eight year presidency was peaceful, with absolutely no armed conflict with any other countries. It seems men who have known the horrors of war tend to utilize the use of military force as a last resort. Obama and Bush, having not faced death on the battlefield, used the military to kill indiscriminately across the globe. Jackson promoted trade with other nations, rather than confrontation.

The U.S. has been at perpetual war since the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. Trump’s oratory during the campaign was reminiscent of Ron Paul’s non-interventionist doctrine. He declared we would no longer attempt to fix broken countries through military intervention. In his first three weeks in office he has surrounded himself with war-like advisors who have already provoked Russia and China.

Trump has threatened Iran and North Korea with retaliation for missile launch tests. Despite Trump’s desire to reduce the number of conflicts he has our military responding to, the military industrial complex and their neo-con supporters in Congress continue to provoke conflict around the globe. His efforts to normalize relations with Russia will be met with resistance every step of the way. Trump’s chance of an eight year presidency with no major foreign conflict is very low.

It seemed improbable that Andrew Jackson, a one-time land speculator, slave trader, opponent of debtor relief and wartime nationalist, would become the voice of the common man. By the 1820s Jackson’s personal business experiences had transformed his opinions about speculation and paper money, leaving him everlastingly mistrustful of the credit system in general and banks in particular.

Jackson most certainly walked the talk when it came to purging the government of the undue influence by unelected private bankers over the economy and government. His war on Second Bank of United States and ensuing hard money policies were a victory for the average man against the moneyed aristocracy. His victory was hollow, as Jackson was unfairly blamed for the subsequent depression and ultimately the bankers regained their capture over the economic and political levers of power in this country.

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While on the campaign trail Trump railed against the Federal Reserve and Janet Yellen. He declared the central bank was politicized and responsible for the past and ongoing bubbles in the financial markets. He asserted, without equivocation, the ridiculously low interest rates kept in place in perpetuity by the Federal Reserve were a major cause of the non-existent economic growth and the ongoing malaise infecting the economy. He stated the stock market was a bubble about to burst again, for the third time in the last sixteen years.

Of course, he was absolutely correct, but his tone and relative silence on the matter since his election may tell a different story. When the stock market went to new all-time highs after his election he hailed it as an endorsement of his economic plan. I haven’t heard him asking for higher interest rates to pop the multiple bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate. Presidents seem to acquire tunnel vision when it comes to acknowledging bubbles during their reign of power.

Anyone with a grasp of history knows the Federal Reserve’s mandate of maintaining stable prices has been an undeniable catastrophic failure. The “goal” of 2% inflation is not stable prices, it’s inflationary prices. The rate of inflation during the Jacksonian era was virtually 0%. From the founding of the country, except for periods of war, through the industrial revolution the country experienced mild deflation. This all ended in 1913 when a few corrupt politicians handed over the power of currency debasement and debt creation to private banking interests.

Central banks and wars go hand in hand. The U.S. would not be able to wage perpetual war without the man-made inflation and debt production by the Federal Reserve bankers. Since the creation of the Federal Reserve prices have risen fourteen-fold, destroying the working middle class and shoving tens of millions to the brink of poverty.

http://yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Tim-IaconoInflation-Before-and-After-the-Federal-Reserve-2013-03-04-001.png

Trump knows the score. One wonders whether every new president is ushered into a room by the Deep State controllers and issued their marching orders when it comes to Wall Street, the Fed, and the military industrial complex. With a $20 trillion national debt and $200 trillion of unfunded welfare liabilities, Trump has no choice but to support the Fed’s near zero interest rate policy and continuing the falsification of inflation data to keep the sheep in the dark as they are led to slaughter. His selection of alumni from the Vampire Squid on the Face of America (aka Goldman Sachs) as his key financial advisors does not bode well for the common man who elected him.

He doesn’t appear to have the courage and fortitude of Jackson when it comes to taking on the vested financial interests who have engineered a silent coup over the last few decades. Without their support, his tax cuts, border wall, infrastructure plans, and rebuilding the military would be DOA. His plans require more debt issuance and low interest rates. He will play along to get what he wants.

There will be no routing out of central bank thieves and vipers during Trump’s watch. He also won’t be paying off the national debt anytime soon. With social welfare programs on automatic pilot, tax cuts, tariffs, and new spending initiatives, annual deficits will approach $1 trillion again. There is nothing Jacksonian about that. Trump is handcuffed by a financial house of cards created over decades.

If he chose to take on the financial interests who rule this country, they would create an economic collapse like the world has never seen and/or remove Trump from office through legitimate (impeachment) or illegitimate (assassination) means. I know he is less than one month into his presidency and his intentions on a plethora of crucial issues are well meaning, but the odds are overwhelming stacked against him somehow making government work for the people.

The law of large numbers works against Trump, while not hampering Jackson. The national debt was $60 million and the population was less than 13 million when Jackson took office. With a national debt of $20 trillion and deeply divided, relatively ignorant, and mostly apathetic population of 330 million, Trump doesn’t have the financial flexibility or popular mandate to accomplish making America great again. That ship has sailed. He appears destined to govern during a time of civil chaos and ultimately financial collapse. And the climax will likely be a major global conflict involving Russia and/or China.

A major difference between the Jacksonian Era and the Trumpian Era is Jackson governed during the Second Turning Transcendental Awakening period. His populism and reforms were welcomed by the majority of the country. The mood of the country was awakened to social progress and utopian experiments to improve society. Trump has come to power in the midst of a Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=d6cd192b4cc272d505e09dc3abec15be&creativeASIN=0767900464). Conflict, chaos, and crisis drive events during a Fourth Turning (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=thebur01-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=d6cd192b4cc272d505e09dc3abec15be&creativeASIN=0767900464). There will be no overwhelming acceptance of any reforms put forward by Trump. Everything he attempts will be met with resistance. Despite his desire for peaceful relations with other nations, he is destined to be a wartime president.

Trump will most certainly accomplish the relatively easy stuff – cutting taxes, building a wall, increasing funding for the military, spending more on infrastructure, and repealing Obamacare. If he wanted to leave a legacy on par with Andrew Jackson’s he would break up the Too Big To Trust Wall Street banks; reinstate the Glass-Steagal Act; clamp down on, if not dissolve, the activist Federal Reserve; eliminate all income based taxes and replace with a consumption tax; tackle the unfunded social benefit issue head on and make the programs smaller but viable over the long-term; drastically reduce the size of every government agency, if not eliminating many altogether; pass term limit legislation for the House and Senate; and lastly, stop policing the world while dramatically reducing our military presence across the globe. Will Trump have the courage to do any of the hard stuff? If not, the decline of the American Empire is inevitable.

http://www.quotesvalley.com/images/15/one-man-with-courage-makes-a-majority-8.jpg

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/13/a-new-jacksonian-era-part-two/)

[KiwiElf]

Trump Must Execute the Nuclear Option—There’s No Other Way
Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:00

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2017/02/trump-must-execute-the-nuclear-option-theres-no-other-way-2885473.html

(Before It's News - sublinks in purple at OP link above)

THE MILLENNIUM REPORT: Reporting the Most Important News in the World Today

Trump Has Only One Alternative… …If He Is To Deliver On His Crucial Campaign Promises, And Really Make America Great Again


The 3 Pillars of Deep State Must Be Knocked Down Post Haste

• The Mainstream Media must be shut down.
• The Central Intelligence Agency must be dissolved.
• The Federal Reserve System must be taken over by the U.S. Treasury

State of the Nation

SOTN was the first Alt Media news platform to describe Donald Trump as a wrecking ball.

This Internet moniker was chosen after great deliberation as it became clear that the Obamanation needed to be completely destroyed if the American Republic was to be saved.

In fact, The Donald made his way slowly but surely all the way to the Oval Office by wrecking everything in sight. This is his signature MO, and exactly what was needed throughout the most divisive and violent campaign season in U.S. history.

Post Inauguration

It is now clear that Deep State will not — under any circumstances — allow President Trump to deliver on his many campaign promises. Nor will the NWO globalists permit him to be POTUS.

BEWARE: The Purple Revolution Comes To America……Courtesy of George Soros,the Clinton Crime Family,and the Obama Administration

Every day that goes by it becomes evident that the Purple Revolution in running in the background—full bore. 99% of the sedition and subversion associated with this soft coup is taking place completely under the radar. And, yet, the 1% that everyone does see and hear has gotten so ugly and intolerable that some folks now understand that the Titanic is about to hit the iceberg. Barring a deus ex machina event, Trump is being set up as the Titanic.

The current trajectory of the Trump Administration is such that it may actually be sunk by the Ides of March. That’s how fast and organized this soft coup really is. And only a very few are talking about it. That’s the real problem here—a general lack of awareness due to so much MSM propaganda and prevarication.

The MSM-CIA-FED Triad Must Be Terminated

For every sober and sane patriot, it has become obvious that the destructive forces within the MSM-CIA-FED Triad must be dealt with decisively and firmly. There can be no sovereign American Republic as long as these three seditious entities retain their power and influence over the affairs of the nation. CASE CLOSED!

At the risk of sounding redundant, as long as the MSM, CIA and the FED seditiously operate as they have for many decades, this once constitutional republic is anything but. To call the United States of America a grotesque misrepresentation of the Founding Fathers original intention would even be a gross understatement.

These three entities — MSM-CIA-FED — are the very pillars which hold up the temple of Deep State. While there are many other integral components such as the entire Military-Industrial Complex, these 3 malevolent institutions form the backbone which allow the BEAST (aka Deep State) to make so much mischief both here and abroad. This triad also forms the skeleton of the current Purple Revolution being waged by the Soros-funded globalists, the Democratic Party and the Sultans of Silicon Valley.

In view of this rapidly devolving predicament, there is now only one alternative for President Trump in order to salvage his presidency. Before his administration is taken down one cabinet secretary at a time, he must take executive actions similar to those that even President John F. Kennedy took against the FED, and was prepared to take in the early 1960s against the C.I.A. And that was 55 years ago when the C.I.A. had not even perfected its soft coup strategies or violent revolution tactics. Ergo, the C.I.A. must be dissolved post haste.

CIA & Company: The Real Plotters Behind JFK’s Assassination

Likewise, if President Trump is to really move forward, the Mainstream Media must be held accountable for the non-stop treason and sedition that is has been proven to be guilty of. The massive ongoing cover-up of the false flag 9/11 terror attacks alone is enough to take them down for good. So is the highly coordinated and continuing cover-up of the assassination of President Kennedy. Therefore, the MSM must be shut down and reconstituted under new corporate charters with appropriate regulation (i.e. prohibited from committing treason and sedition on a regular basis).

9/11 VERDICT: Mainstream Media Guilty Of The Biggest Coverup In US History

Thirdly, the Federal Reserve System has repeatedly demonstrated that it functions as an international banking crime syndicate, accountable to no one in the U.S. Federal Government. The volumes of evidence which are now available in the public domain does indicate that the FED answers to foreign powers, international financiers and wealthy elites who do not have the best interest of the American people anywhere on their priority list. The Federal Reserve Bank is such an incorrigible criminal banking entity that it must be taken over by the U.S. Treasury with all deliberate speed.

The Federal Reserve – The Deep State’s Central Bank

Where is this all going? What can be done?

There is a palpable acceleration of transparently subversive plots coming out of Deep State. As a matter of historical fact, the American people have never witnessed so much soft power projected and insurrection instigated by a political party against a sitting president. Alarmingly, the Purple Revolution is getting more real by the day as it plays out in living color and during prime time.

DEEP STATE Fired NSA General Michael Flynn

In light of the most recent developments whereby Deep State fired NSA General Michael Flynn, Trump has shown that things are truly out of control. Senior Counselor to the President Stephen Bannon and Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway are next on the list, as is Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Such Executive Branch attrition and unwarranted attacks have never occurred in U.S. presidential history so close to Inauguration Day.

If ever there was a time for the American people to respond to a very real revolution — a Purple Revolution — being surreptitiously carried out, it is now. But how can the body politic of these United States of America most effectively do this? Very simple!

Both individually and collectively, the true patriots across the land must resolve themselves to first (i) take back their power from those who have systematically stolen it; secondly (ii) stand firmly in their own truth and newfound power; and thirdly (iii) speak that infallible truth to power like never before. In this instance speaking is used to mean writing, videotaping, tweeting, facebooking, blogging, and, yes, speaking truth to power whenever and whenever necessary.

Conclusion

The vast majority of those elected representatives who occupy seats in the U.S. Congress are dangerous career criminals, as well as outright traitors to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. President Trump has access to enough evidence to imprison most of them for life.

PIZZAGATE: The Scandal That Will Take Down the Clintons, the Democratic Party and the U.S. Federal Government

The President’s real trump card, however, is Pizzagate. Deep State only exists in its current demonic incarnation through the sheer power of blackmail and bribery, coercion and intimidation. Because so many in Congress, the 17 intelligence agencies, the super-secret services, as well as throughout the leadership of Corporate America, have been seriously compromised from their involvement with either Pizzagate or the global Pedogate, virtually every major power-player is totally owned by The Company (also known as the C.I.A.)

PIZZAGATE: A Special Report on the Washington, D.C. Pedophilia Scandal

Given this worsening state of affairs, the American people are being challenged as never before to take back their country. Hence, either the US citizenry uses it (their civic power) or they will lose it for a very long time. Either the governed collectively withdraws their consent from those organs within the federal government which have proven to be treasonous and unworthy of existence, or the people will be irreversibly crushed by them (e.g. MSM, CIA, FED).

Lastly, it must be acknowledged by all concerned citizens that each administration prior to the present one has profoundly violated the public trust and irrevocably broken the social contract. In so doing they have rent asunder the sacred covenant which ought to exist between the governed and the government. With so many highly consequential betrayals of the American people over the past century, there can only be one outcome.

Let’s get busy!

State of the Nation
February 5, 2017

Editor’s Note

This article was posted with great urgency. The citizens needed to come together, as never before, to present a powerful countervailing force to Deep State. This massive show of unity and strength and resolve must be so overwhelming that members of Congress become more afraid of We the People than they are of Deep State. Do you get it? Only when the countless agents of Deep State fear the wrath of the citizenry more than the retribution of the C.I.A., the FBI and the MSM, will things start to really change. Hence, there needs to be an historic demonstration of people power and raw force. What comes to mind is a 10-million strong assembly of [armed] patriots surrounding the Capitol Building shouting “GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE!”

VIDEO: GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE

Recommended Reading

The C.I.A. And Deep State Conspiracy Finally Exposed

Three Factions of the CIA that Control the World

Reference

MAINSTREAM MEDIA: The True Enemy Of The People

PIZZAGATE: A Special Report on the Washington, D.C. Pedophilia Scandal

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[turiya]

Sean Spicer - Security Leaks a big concern...


Was Michael Flynn politically assassinated?
(Published on Feb 14, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqMKCOlueyY_____________________________

Trump on Flynn...


Trump on Flynn: Documents,
papers were illegally leaked
(Published on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzgkwb2ExQ0_____________________________

Hannity also sees it for what it is...


Hannity: The DC swamp is rising
to take down Trump
(Published on Feb 14, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmCouKJ7BYQ_____________________________






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The real scandal here is that classified
information is illegally given out by
"intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!

5:13 AM - 15 Feb 2017






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Columnist: Flynn's ouster will
embolden Trump's opponents
(Published on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wymzDn-c2XI_____________________________

Karl Rove: White House leaks
are 'political payback'
(Published on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR7oPIjZbw8_____________________________

Targeting of Flynn 'should be
alarming to everyone'
(Published on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAFDNoXInYo

[Eram]

What will happen if Trump gets taken down?
If they succeed in their efforts to isolate him and eventually get him impeached or some other means to definitively shut him up?
Will the US stand for it?
Will it descend in a full scale civil war?

by now, I guess large parts of the military, the police and intelligence agencies are pretty much up to speed about what's really going on and the monster that Trump is fighting.

I just cannot see a Trump impeachment (or worse) end without a civil war.

Last night, I dreamed that I bought a big rifle and flew to the US to join the militia in defense of Trump and basically, this is how I feel about the situation.
All the while being a idealistic pacifist lefty by nature.
Go figure. :wacko2:

But seriously, could it be possible that Trump gets taken out of power without some major blow back from the patriot movement in the US?
All I can see is some sort of civil war as a next stage.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

The medical establishment is pissed, and the MSM is expressing outrage on their behalf.


De Niro, Bobby Kennedy son offer $100K for anti-vaccine journalism

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Robert De Niro insist they are pro-vaccine. But their Washington press conference Wednesday has sickened science advocates.

“The event was a showcase of some of the most thoroughly discredited claims about vaccines, from the notion that they cause autism, to the suggestion that vaccines are a huge source of mercury that’s making kids sick,” Vox reported. “Kennedy also suggested journalists and the government have been colluding to cover up the truth about vaccine safety, and that the shots have ‘caused the autism epidemic.’”

But Kennedy and De Niro write: “Both of us had all of our children vaccinated and we support policies that promote vaccine coverage. We want vaccines that are as safe as possible, robust transparent science and vigorous oversight by independent regulators who are free from corrupting conflicts-of-interest.”

Their World Mercury Project is offering $100,000 “to the first journalist, or other individual, who can find a peer-reviewed scientific study demonstrating that thimerosal is safe in the amounts contained in vaccines currently being administered to American children and pregnant women.”

They said a “cascade of recent science” confirms that thimerosal is a “potent neurotoxin that damages children’s brains.”

Vox quoted Peter Hotez, a pediatrician and vaccine researcher at Baylor College of Medicine, as saying: “There is no link between thimerosal — mercury that was previously found in vaccines — and autism.”

“The only major thimerosal exposure to children is during maternal immunization with multidose flu vaccine, he added, but a large recent study in JAMA also found no link with autism,” Vox added.

http://mynewsla.com/hollywood/2017/02/15/de-niro-bobby-kennedy-son-offer-100k-for-vaccine-journalism/

They must just be using this as an opportunity to draw attention to and broach the subject because the research already exists and has existed for years.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/72/04/8d/72048dfc65ddd13a2638aa4e190bf753.jpg


Autism as a diagnosis didn't even exist until after vaccines were introduced in the US.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2c/28/a9/2c28a93b2d1db76d43d7f79da229f54a.jpg


Parents generally are more concerned for the health of their children, and know them better, than their doctors do. The fact that most doctors double as pill salesman and get kickbacks from that are proof enough of that.

So polls like these are also interesting:

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-g6copot/product_images/uploaded_images/autism-immunization-graph.jpg

Parents seem to be noticing the pattern, Trump, Kennedy and De Niro no doubt included.

[turiya]

What will happen if Trump gets taken down?
If they succeed in their efforts to isolate him and eventually get him impeached or some other means to definitively shut him up?
Will the US stand for it?
Will it descend in a full scale civil war?

by now, I guess large parts of the military, the police and intelligence agencies are pretty much up to speed about what's really going on and the monster that Trump is fighting.

I just cannot see a Trump impeachment (or worse) end without a civil war.

Last night, I dreamed that I bought a big rifle and flew to the US to join the militia in defense of Trump and basically, this is how I feel about the situation.
All the while being a idealistic pacifist lefty by nature.
Go figure. :wacko2:

But seriously, could it be possible that Trump gets taken out of power without some major blow back from the patriot movement in the US?
All I can see is some sort of civil war as a next stage.

No one can know for any certainty what could happen.
The country is so divided.

The Dems are so butt-hurt and just can't get over the fact that Hilllary Clinton lost the election - [poor babies].
The minds of the youth are quite malleable... the is basic understanding in human psychology. The Deep State / CIA knows this - they are mind control experts - they have used this in their methods to stir up the color revolutions in the Balkans, the Arab Springs in the Middle East.

The millenial-left is so affixiated... and so easily manipulated... the youth have the most energy in being young... they have more energy than older people. Its more easily to excite these type people. With the help of MSM constant repitition of the various memes - just look at how long they've been having "The Russians did it" meme going... repeating it over & over & over. They are literally hypnotizing the masses - to the point that the masses (especially the youth) are autohypnotizing themselves, and unconsciously creating the very police state that they've been led to believe that Donald Trump represents.

The media is most assuredly behind the pumping up of the emotional discharge.
Have a read of a Scott Adams article I previously posted on the other thread...


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The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/)

http://www.drr.mdfsa.lk/images/WebSlides/DRR-Web-Slide-A6.jpg

Be Careful What
You Wish For
(especially if it is Hitler) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/01/29/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-especially-if-it-is-hitler/#more-141973)

Posted on January 29, 2017
Guest Post by Scott Adams
As a trained persuader, I’m seeing a dangerous situation forming that I assume is invisible to most of you. The setup is that during the presidential campaign Trump’s critics accused him of being Hitler(ish) and they were sure other citizens would see it too, thus preventing this alleged monster from taking office.

They were wrong. The alleged monster took office.

Now you have literally millions of citizens in the United States who were either right about Trump being the next Hitler, and we will see that behavior emerge from him soon, or they are complete morons. That’s a trigger for cognitive dissonance. The science says these frightened folks will start interpreting all they see as Hitler behavior no matter how ridiculous it might seem to the objective observer. And sure enough, we are seeing that.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/09/20/3A367FDA00000578-0-image-a-4_1478724158125.jpg

To be fair, Trump made it easy this week with his temporary immigration ban. If you assume Trump is Hitler, that fits with your hypothesis. But of course it also fits the hypothesis that he’s just doing his job. We’re all seeing what we expect to see.

But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one.

And this gets me to my point. When millions of Americans want the same thing, and they want it badly, the odds of it happening go way up. You can call it the power of positive thinking. It is also the principle behind affirmations. When humans focus on a desired future, events start to conspire to make it happen.


http://tracara.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/donald-trump-the-simpsons-e1470214689185.jpg?0a86e3

I’m not talking about any new-age magic. I’m talking about ordinary people doing ordinary things to turn Trump into an actual Hitler. For example, if protesters start getting violent, you could expect forceful reactions eventually. And that makes Trump look more like Hitler. I can think of dozens of ways the protesters could cause the thing they are trying to prevent. In other words, they can wish it into reality even though it is the very thing they are protesting.

In the 3rd dimension of persuasion, the protesters need to be proven right, and they will do whatever it takes to make that happen. So you might see the protesters inadvertently create the police state they fear.

If you are looking for the tells that this dangerous situation is developing, notice how excited/happy the Trump critics seem to be – while angry at the same time – that Trump’s immigration ban fits their belief system. If you see people who are simply afraid of Trump, they are probably harmless. But the people who are excited about any Hitler-analogy-behavior by Trump might be leading the country to a police state without knowing it.

So watch for that.
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/4CHAN_SMILEY_FACE1.png


The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/01/29/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-especially-if-it-is-hitler/#more-141973)
http://www.longislandguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/14488313_1778294529118676_429539408690020352_n-288x190.jpg

[Chester]

In post #56 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1133882&viewfull=1#post1133882) I stated the following -


heard stated by someone today on FOX News -

"The media is the unaccountable fourth branch of the government"



Bill Still heard it too... Ben Stein

8nMpAWC7u24

[KiwiElf]

Those Pedogate arrests can't come fast enough!

[turiya]

Another Saker article...


https://www.johndenugent.com/images/paul-craig-roberts-banner-march-2016.jpg (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/)

Will Falling Dominoes
Knock Over Trump? (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/15/will-falling-dominoes-knock-trump/)
— Paul Craig Roberts
February 15, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns

Gen. Flynn’s removal as National Security Adviser is a domino that is likely to knock over other Trump appointees and perhaps Trump himself. Stephen Lendman seems to think that Kellyanne Conway is next in line: Article (http://sjlendman.blogspot.com)


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Wednesday, February 15, 2017
Kellyanne Conway Bashing Targets Trump (http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/)

by Stephen Lendman






Ousting Michael Flynn was all about harming Trump. The same goes for Conway, Counselor to the President, a key White House position.

A previous article discussed her harmless faux pas on Fox News, saying “(g)o buy (Trump daughter) Ivanka’s stuff…It’s a wonderful line. I own some of it. I'm going to give a free commercial here. Go buy it today.”

It was a minor indiscretion of no consequence in response to Nordstrom dropping her line, possibly at odds with US law, prohibiting “use of public office for private gain,” including “endorse(ments) (of any) product, service or enterprise.”

Conway’s comment wasn’t intended for personal gain, so the whole business should have amounted to much ado about nothing.

Not in Washington, especially with Trump bashing so intense. The Office of Government Ethics (OGE) wants her investigated, disciplinary action following if warranted.

You can’t make this stuff up whatever comes of this. Attacking her is solely meant harm Trump. She, Flynn and likely other administration officials to follow are punching bags.

Trump’s the target. The strategy is weaken him by going after key administration officials, wanting him delegitimized - the end game either harming him irreparably or driving him from office by impeachment, trial and conviction, resignation or more sinister means.

OGE director Walter Shaub called Conway’s action a “clear violation” of ethics rules, saying “there is strong reason to believe (she) violated the Standards of Conduct Act…”

He requested the White House to investigate the matter, then send its findings and any proposed disciplinary action to OGE by end of February.

Whoever put Shaub up to this wants Conway either ousted or heavily tarnished to harm Trump. Lots more dominos may fall.

Taking them out or damaging their reputations enough weakens their ability to serve effectively.

If this dirty game continues relentlessly, the last domino to fall may be Trump. That’s what it’s all about.

First eliminate or discredit his key people. Then take him out or force total capitulation to longstanding deplorable policies. In the meantime, Washington’s imperial agenda continues without missing a beat.

Stephen Lendman (http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/)
Paul Craig Roberts:
Now that speaking to Russians is a cause for removal, Trump’s agenda of normalizing relations with Russia is dead. Trump himself now reportedly has said that Russia should return Crimea to Ukraine. Flynn’s reported likely replacement, Robert S. Harward, is CEO for Lockheed Martin in the United Arab Emirates. Lockheed Martin is part of the military/security complex that needs an enemy, and the “Russian threat” is a large enough enemy to keep about 1,000 billion dollars of the taxpayers’ money flowing into the military/security complex.

The Saker spells it out for those who were unable to follow his first article on the subject (below).


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The anti-Flynn ‘deep state’ coup –
spelling it out in the clearest way possible (http://thesaker.is/the-anti-flynn-deep-state-coup-spelling-it-out-in-the-clearest-way-possible/)
February 14, 2017
By The Saker





Okay, my sense is that a large number of commentators are misunderstanding the nature of what is going on. So, this time, rather than writing an analysis, I will spell it out, ‘talking points’ – style and, hopefully, do a better job about making my point. So, here we go.


THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN. Let me repeat that once more. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!! Please don’t come and tell me that Flynn was wrong on Iran, on Islam or on China. I agree. But,
==>>THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!!<<==

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THIS IS ABOUT POWER. As in, who is boss? Who is number one? Who is the alpha dog? The President or the ‘deep state’? That is what this is all about – showing everybody who is in charge.

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FLYNN WAS A SYMBOL. He was the symbol of the entire notion of draining the Washington swamp, which is mostly the 3 letter agencies + Pentagon anyway. Flynn was the guy who dared defy the thought police and be friendly with the Russians. Flynn was the man who wanted to bring the CIA and JCS back under White House control. And Flynn was the guy with contacts with SOCOM and JSOC. Flynn had to be brought down.

***
FLYNN WAS ALSO A CORNERSTONE. For better or for worse, it is absolutely evident that Flynn was the brain behind Trump’s entire foreign policy. On some stuff Flynn was great (Russia), on some stuff he was okay (Takfiri terrorism), on some stuff he was ridiculous (China) and on some stuff he was terrible (Iran). But that is not what matters here. Listen to Kucinich (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtDFVziBW60) who clearly says that this is not about Trump or Flynn, but about a coup against the Presidency by the US ‘deep state’. Now that Flynn has been brought down, there is no “Trump foreign policy” left.

***
FLYNN IS ALSO A DOMINO. Okay, this is crucial, pay attention now. Putin has often been criticized for protecting his friends even when these friends are guilty of wrongdoings. Now let me ask you a simple question: would you rather stick your neck out for Trump or for Putin? Exactly. If Trump was a loyal kind of person he could have called Pence and Flynn to the Oval Office, told Flynn to apologize and told Pence to shut up. But he did nothing of the kind. By accepting Flynn’s “resignation” Trump showed that he does not protect those who fight for him. There will definitely be a domino-effect now as everybody who matters has now understood: Trump is weak, the Neocons got him by the balls, and Trump will leave you hanging when the sh¡t hits the fan.

***
FLYNN’S DOWNFALL IS A MESSAGE. A message to all those who hate Trump and what Trump represents. And that message is simple: we are back in control and the party is on! Now that Trump has been humiliated and broken, now that he lost his only high-IQ and powerful ally in the White House, the Neocons are the deep state are smelling blood and they will double-down and resume their attack with increased intensity. The next highly symbolic sacrificial victim might be the much-hated Steve Bannon. The bottom line is simple: the hunt is on for anti-deep-state ‘crimethinkers’.

***
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S CHARACTER. That was the big unknown, right? Nobody really new what kind of President Trump would make. Everybody, including yours truly, enjoyed speculating about his ego, his lack of political experience, the fact that he owed nothing to anybody, that he was a deal maker, a common sense pragmatist. Well, we still don’t know what kind of President Trump will be, but I am afraid that we now know what kind of President he will NOT be: he will NOT drain the swamp, he will NOT change the subordination of US national interests to the AngloZionist Empire, he will NOT forge a historical partnership with Russia and he will NOT send the Neocons down to the basement from which they crawled out 24 years ago.

Whether Trump lacks brains, spine, or balls is anyone’s guess, but it is now painfully clear that he has much more in common with Yanukovich then with Putin.

As I said, it’s over. Not because of Flynn’s views on Iran or Islam. But because Trump has caved in, he has been broken and now all that’s left is a painful 4 year long agony. That’s assuming that the Neocons don’t impeach him just to bask in their arrogance and sense of supremacy.

Frankly, my heart goes out to all those who sincerely hoped that Trump will be the man to free the US from the Neocons and restore the power of the “basket of deplorables” over the many minorities and special interests. Some will now indulge in a lot of “I told you so” but they will be wrong. To hope for the best was the right thing to do. Those who voted for Trump did the only thing in their power to prevent Hillary from occupying the White House. That was the right decision, they did the right thing, both morally and pragmatically.

But now we also need to gather our courage and accept the reality of what has taken place. Minimizing the implications of this deep state coup makes no sense whatsoever, neither morally nor pragmatically. And the reality is this:
It took the Neocons and the US deep state less than a month to overturn the results of the Presidential election.

Trump now declares that he “expects Russia to return Crimea (https://youtu.be/9C4LrbBgL4I?t=7m4s)“.
It’s over folks – welcome (back) to the war between Russia and the Empire.
The Saker

PS: one more thing. Trump himself was always, of course, the candidate of one part of the ‘US deep state’. Trump did not appear ex nihilo, and neither did Flynn. It is taking place is one faction of the deep state fighting against another faction of the deep state. The US elites have been split for a while now. But since Trump now has legal authority and those trying to color revolution him do not, I speak of the deep state vs the Presidency.

The Saker (http://thesaker.is/the-anti-flynn-deep-state-coup-spelling-it-out-in-the-clearest-way-possible/)



#CivilWar2 Kucinich Pins Flynn
Leak on Intel Community
(Published on Feb 14, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtDFVziBW60

[Helene West]

What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
it's all getting over my paygrade....

[turiya]

What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
it's all getting over my paygrade....

Not sure if this will help... but it may be time for Steve Pieczenik to pipe in, here...






The Dispensable Mike Flynn!
February 14, 2017 (http://stevepieczenik.com/the-dispensable-mike-flynn/)
Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, MD, PhD (http://stevepieczenik.com/author/pieczenik/)

http://stevepieczenik.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Unknown-21.jpeg

The Dispensable Mike Flynn!


The recent firing of Mike Flynn is par for the course of any new administration. When a new POTUS comes into office, he must evaluate the performance of his subordinates.

Even more difficult is the fact that POTUS must insist that their performance and integrity [whatever that might mean] meets the standards that POTUS has set for himself and his WH.

Lt.Gen. Mike Flynn has been a loyal soldier. He did what he was supposed to do in order to facilitate Trump’s ascendancy into the WH. However, rumors were floating around that the National Security team in the WH was fragmented and not properly synchronized.


http://stevepieczenik.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Unknown-2-2.jpeg

I emphasized the need for a strong national security leader in one of my former blogs. However helpful and effective Flynn may have been in the past, he became a liability in the present and for the future of Trump’s tenure.

Whether Flynn did or did not consort with the Russians or whatever other narrative is offered to the press is completely irrelevant. What does matter is that whatever POTUS decides is best for his WH becomes the sine qua non of any present or future actions that he might have to take.

The dismissal of Flynn underscores a salient point that I have repeatedly stated about all politicians, leaders, and operatives. They are dispensable.

The president has to make swift decisions in trying moments without having access to the full picture. Trump works at warp speed consistent with ruthless businessmen who are usually very successful. He may or may not allow one or two mistakes to be made.Trump will not hesitate to bring the ax down when necessary.


http://stevepieczenik.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Unknown-22.jpeg

Please rest assured that Trump has built a very strong phalanx of operatives at the cabinet level who are effectively manning the key national security positions. In time, one must expect that more civilians and others will be dismissed. That is the nature of a vibrant capitalistic democracy where no one is guaranteed a livelihood or a sinecure.

Many civilians in the massive USG bureaucracy should be frightened. They too realize that they are disposable.That’s why we elected the “Fixer” Donald Trump to create a smaller federal government and a larger private sector.

Remember the Republic is intact and quite healthy. Heads will roll in order to make the USG more streamline and productive for the 21 st century. Thank you POTUS Trump!

Steve Pieczenik (http://stevepieczenik.com/the-dispensable-mike-flynn/)


https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M547b14456b191739ad2256ec4df4339co0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300 (http://stevepieczenik.com/the-dispensable-mike-flynn/)

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[turiya]

Alex Jones Guest with Steve Pieczenik comes on @ 2:08:30... Roger Stone... Leo Hohmann...


Alex Jones Wednesday:
Roger Stone, Leo Hohmann, Steve Pieczenik
( 2/15/17)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mK9OrwP134

[A Voice from the Mountains]

What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
it's all getting over my paygrade....

The overwhelming support of patriots from all walks of life helped him get in and now he's in the middle of the Washington swamp. He's still got a lot of support, particularly from the military and rank-and-file intelligence people, but still not the media, or the establishment of the Republican and Democratic parties, or Hollywood or the deep state military/intel network or the globalists. It's a pretty massive machine he's beating back.

I think Trump is making progress. It's just going to be very painful and look very messy while it's happening. This was something that Steve Bannon said he discovered during the campaign: whenever the media makes things seem the most chaotic, is when the Trump team is in reality the most focused and on-target. When the media is breathlessly freaking out is when the Trump team is "in the zone" peeling back the traditional power bases.

[turiya]

What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
it's all getting over my paygrade....

The overwhelming support of patriots from all walks of life helped him get in and now he's in the middle of the Washington swamp. He's still got a lot of support, particularly from the military and rank-and-file intelligence people, but still not the media, or the establishment of the Republican and Democratic parties, or Hollywood or the deep state military/intel network or the globalists. It's a pretty massive machine he's beating back.

I think Trump is making progress. It's just going to be very painful and look very messy while it's happening. This was something that Steve Bannon said he discovered during the campaign: whenever the media makes things seem the most chaotic, is when the Trump team is in reality the most focused and on-target. When the media is breathlessly freaking out is when the Trump team is "in the zone" peeling back the traditional power bases.

Thank you, AVFM.

At 2:08:30 of the above Infowars video in Post #92 has Steve Pieczenik coming on and assuring Alex that everything is under control, as part of the previous 'soft coup' that has already taken place. Lt General Mike Flynn had already known, for some time prior, that he would not remain in the Trump Administration for very long. All the emotional tirades that are taking place - in the media, Hollywood celebs, Michael Moore, etc., are like small infants pooping in their pants while still throwing their ongoing tantrams over having lost the election.

I will be posting the 18-19 minute segment of the Wednesday, February 15, 2017 Alex Jones Show containing the interview quite soon. The re-establishment of the Republic will be forthcoming... no worries, according to Steve Pieczenik.


Steve Pieczenik on Lt General
Mike Flynn's Resignation
(Published February 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-80k7ANVQzc

[MorningFox]

I'm a member of a few other forums, not to do with alternative information, and I'd say about 95% of the people on all of them are utterly against Trump in the most forthcoming way. The same apparently on my Twitter feed. Also here in England almost everyone I have spoken to is utterly against Trump. Except a select few, every single one of my friends, and friend's friends, seems to have totally bought in to the idea that Trump is by far the worst President to ever step in to the whitehouse. These are for the most part very intelligent, seemingly open minded people.

Personally I'm on the fence. It certainly seems that he is by no means a saint, and frankly quite possibly a bit of a fool, certainly in the way he seems to conduct himself, the way he speaks, and the way he writes... and tweets. It certainly is a little embarrassing for someone in his position. This, however, is no reason to hate him and certainly doesn't mean that he isn't a good person with good intentions for his presidency and country.

Certain things he has said would suggest he's against the establishment, but there are other things that would suggest not.

My question is, what are some of the things he has done so far that truly benefit the people? Things that he has done that truly show that he is a good guy? I'm yet to have really seen anything, but maybe they do exist...?

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Why don't you take some time to read the thread MorningFox. Less than a month in office and he's already acting on many of his campaign promises, something which is so unprecedented that the media is shocked that he is actually doing what he said he would. He's already initiated planning for the Mexican wall, killed TPP, gutted Obamacare mandates, produced pledges for over a million new jobs from companies ranging from Sprint to Toyota to Japanese and Chinese entrepreneurs (which don't manifest overnight), and the stock market is on its longest upward trend in decades on nothing but the fumes of optimism from the fact that Trump has pledged to cut taxes and reduce regulations across the board. And the vaccine commission, to review vaccine safety, which is something that a lot of people have been concerned about for a long time. I could sit here and think of more but the man is a workaholic and every day he's doing something else. If people don't see what Trump has already done it's only because they haven't really been paying any attention to it.

Just on the topic of Obamacare, from what I've heard Nigel Farage say, I don't think you Brits truly realize the horrendous disaster that was Obamacare. It effected much more than peoples' health care, though it adversely effected peoples' health insurance costs too. But maybe more importantly it resulted in reduction of hours and mass lay-offs all over the country because of mandates requiring companies to pay for full-time workers' health care, increasing unemployment and reducing earnings of people who continued working. Just gutting Obamacare alone is a great thing.


I'm watching the Trump news conference right now and he's going over what all he's done since Jan. 20th, so I'll list what he says for you here too.

- Withdrawal from TPP
- Elimination of job-killing regulations
- For each new regulation, 2 old regulations must be lifted
- Expedited approval for manufacturing permits
- Hiring freeze on non-essential federal bureaucratic jobs
- Creation of a task force for reducing violent crime in places like Chicago
- Cracking down on drug cartel crime coming across the Mexican border
- Planning for the wall is already underway
- Crackdown on "sanctuary cities" and removal of violent illegal migrants
- End of Obama's "catch and release" policy which had resulted in unnecessary murders, etc.
- Extreme vetting of refugees and other immigrants coming into our country from terrorism-ridden countries
- We're moving forward on the Dakota pipeline to inc
- New 5 year ban on White House officials becoming lobbyists
- New lifetime ban on lobbying on behalf of a foreign government
- Gutting Obamacare mandates, pushing Congress to repeal and replace
- Presentation of a tax reform plan that would cut taxes across the board, which also must now go through Congress
- Movements to fair trade, not "free" trade
- American and even foreign automakers are announcing rebuilding their factories in the US now
- Nominated a strict Constitutionalist for the Supreme Court who was previously appointed by a 95-0 vote in the Senate to the federal courts

He didn't list everything (like the vaccine comission) but I don't blame him because he's hard to keep up with.

[Eram]

I'm a member of a few other forums, not to do with alternative information, and I'd say about 95% of the people on all of them are utterly against Trump in the most forthcoming way. The same apparently on my Twitter feed. Also here in England almost everyone I have spoken to is utterly against Trump. Except a select few, every single one of my friends, and friend's friends, seems to have totally bought in to the idea that Trump is by far the worst President to ever step in to the whitehouse. These are for the most part very intelligent, seemingly open minded people.

Personally I'm on the fence. It certainly seems that he is by no means a saint, and frankly quite possibly a bit of a fool, certainly in the way he seems to conduct himself, the way he speaks, and the way he writes... and tweets. It certainly is a little embarrassing for someone in his position. This, however, is no reason to hate him and certainly doesn't mean that he isn't a good person with good intentions for his presidency and country.

Certain things he has said would suggest he's against the establishment, but there are other things that would suggest not.

My question is, what are some of the things he has done so far that truly benefit the people? Things that he has done that truly show that he is a good guy? I'm yet to have really seen anything, but maybe they do exist...?

I'm in the same situation Morning Fox.
I come from a background and family of left minded intellectuals (or wannabees at least).
All my friends and family loath Trump. They abandoned common sense and are whipping themselves up into an almost psychotic frenzy.
People who normally plaster the facebook page with pacifistic ideologies and memes are now crying out for him to be murdered.

Are these people aware that there is something more at steak here then just the projected image of a US president?

Trump immediately pulled the US back out if the TPP negotiations and intends to renegotiate NAFTA.
Have your friends any idea about the implications of this policy?
Mine don't.
Most of them don't even know what NAFTA is.
Do they understand the risks involved of the game that is played toward Russia?

Besides that, the left intellectuals these days seem to be stuck in freedom of thought intolerance. They just cannot bear the idea of other people with different ideas about how to form a society having some power.

I'm glad that I have been able to do my homework and have actually been fortunate enough to skim through books like "Tragedy and Hope (http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf)" and many other sources of information to come to the conclusion that there is indeed an Anglo/Americain plot to form a global society, dominated by Anglo Americain forces. Technocratic, trans humanistic, and fully elitist.

I often feel powerless and frustrated with them, since I don't know what to say to them to get them to start thinking for themselves. To do some proper research and to question their own convictions about their life and world views.

All I know how to do so far is make it very clear to them that I have a different opinion on the matter and that I see other things in play here.

Edit to add: I'm not (like you) on the fence of course, but I guess that much became clear throughout my post. ;)

[Helene West]

I'm a member of a few other forums, not to do with alternative information, and I'd say about 95% of the people on all of them are utterly against Trump in the most forthcoming way. The same apparently on my Twitter feed. Also here in England almost everyone I have spoken to is utterly against Trump. Except a select few, every single one of my friends, and friend's friends, seems to have totally bought in to the idea that Trump is by far the worst President to ever step in to the whitehouse. These are for the most part very intelligent, seemingly open minded people.

Personally I'm on the fence. It certainly seems that he is by no means a saint, and frankly quite possibly a bit of a fool, certainly in the way he seems to conduct himself, the way he speaks, and the way he writes... and tweets. It certainly is a little embarrassing for someone in his position. This, however, is no reason to hate him and certainly doesn't mean that he isn't a good person with good intentions for his presidency and country.

Certain things he has said would suggest he's against the establishment, but there are other things that would suggest not.

My question is, what are some of the things he has done so far that truly benefit the people? Things that he has done that truly show that he is a good guy? I'm yet to have really seen anything, but maybe they do exist...?

Hi Morning Fox, thanks for your human and humane comment and inquiry. Yours was refreshing because everyone is an Expert on Donald trump today whether they live here in the States or in the Aleutian Islands.

Eram’s response to you was wonderful.
I would also add that because of trump we have been given a breather, a small reprieve from the tyranny of ‘identity politics’ which for me is nothing more than mind control and the new racism (against whites) and the new sexism (against alpha males) with its ancillary hates, against Christianity and religious people in general, the traditional family, et al…
Eight years ago one of the first things I remember learning about obama was that he liked to play golf and he liked to watch sports with his male companion, reggie love. With trump it was the 1st or 2nd day after inauguration he freed us from the TPP as Eram pointed out. We saw we had a real worker bee in the white house and it gave many a sense of security. It also infuriated others I believe out of jealousy for his work ethic.

I’ve been through many elections here in the U.S. but I’ve never witnessed anything the likes of what is going on today. It’s like being in the midst of an epidemic where the nature of the disease replaces the human brain with some sort of primitive reaction syndrome, a syndrome very narrow in its demonstration, mainly of rage and malice.
Well, that’s some two cents from me, gotta get back to work, thanks again…

[Helene West]

AVFM
Thanks for listing of accomplishments, should be printed in the NY Times.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

I’ve been through many elections here in the U.S. but I’ve never witnessed anything the likes of what is going on today. It’s like being in the midst of an epidemic where the nature of the disease replaces the human brain with some sort of primitive reaction syndrome, a syndrome very narrow in its demonstration, mainly of rage and malice.

If you look back through history you'll see this is how the Bolsheviks and Chinese Communists came to power too. Mob mentality takes over, it's all emotion, rational discussion is shut down and the media is used to fuel all of this.

A whole group of leftists like that slob Michael Moore are openly calling for an illegal coup against the duly elected president to install Hillary by force, and in the next breath they accuse Trump of fascism. If you wrote a fictional novel with characters this stupid no one would be able to suspend their disbelief. More than cognitive dissonance, it's some form of sociological mental disorder and just happens to be how Marxists usually take over countries. But it's not going to happen here.

[turiya]

MorningFox,

Trump February 16, 2017 News Conference can be seen here (http://video.foxnews.com/v/5325996040001/?#sp=show-clips).

Will just add a couple videos. The second is a Jeff Rense interview with Constitutional Attorney Jonathan Emord expressing his thoughts on the what is taking place with the Trump presidency... have a listen...


Malkin: Where was the mainstream
media the past 8 years?
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_bEPX5wtco_______________________

Jeff Rense & Jonathan Emord
Sanctuary Cities & Dem Obstructionism
(Published on Feb 14, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuz2JwyBzFo

Jonathan Emord: I think that he [Trump] is establishing himself to be an extremely strong chief executive, who has a rather clear vision of what he expects from the rest of the world & from the United States.

I think the reality of the governance is that once he gains access to the Intelligence & realizes the real situation the United States is in, he's obliged to take certain steps, and I think he's taking them.

I mean, I am very pleased with what he has done, thus far. And I think that he's probably doing more to enhance the strength of the United States, and its image in the world, than could have reasonably have been expected by this time in his presidency.

Rense: Its a very short time, indeed. Let me ask you to cast your gaze on Eastern Europe, though. Why is he continuing the policy of Obama, who sent over 4,000 tanks, and I don't know how many tens of thousands of troops - they're still going! A whole other load just arrived last week. So, what is he trying to accomplish there? This is obviously anti-Russian in the extreme.

Jonathan Emord: One of the things that I was actually worried about was that some of the rhetoric he had about Vladimir Putin suggested in the campaign that he might be less willing to take steps to protect American interests versus Eastern Europe & maintaining the strength of NATO against Russia. And I think, in fact, what he has done - and I think this is largely because of the Intelligence that he has received - to the extent that the NATO alliance was in jeopardy - is reinforced the American dominance over NATO, and a strong protection interest against Russia. I think, the reality is Russia is looking to expand wherever possible to rebuild a Soviet empire.

Rense: mmmm... Interesting, I missed that, but please go ahead.

Jonathan Emord: I think that Putin is interested in establishing, wherever he can, influence through intimidation, or expansion, into Easter Europe and the Ukraine, into Korea, and into Syria, destabalizing...

Rense: Would the Chinese let him [Putin] step into their North Korean storefront, at all? I wouldn't want to see him anywhere near Kim's rockets.

Jonathan Emord: Well, I think that N. Korea is a loose cannon for China. And, actually, to the extent that N. Korea does what it does do - which is insane - it actually limits the ability of China to overtake the influence of the Soviet Union [Russia] in that part of the world. I think the destabilizing effects of North Korea are to the benefit of Putin - in checking the expansion & influence of China.

So I believe, in many respects China is an ally of Russia, but ultimately, if China is successful, it would overtake Russia's influence and expand probably to a much greater extent than would be acceptable to Putin. So, its important that China be in a state of political difficulty in maintaining total dominance over Asia. And I think that Russia looks to that destabilizing force to North Korea as a benefit.

Rense: Interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on those items. Here's one more quickie: The Daily Caller article - about what Chris Ruddy (claims to be well-connect to Donald) had said about seeing weakness in the Chief of Staff, Reince Priebus - in short - Reince is a problem.

Jonathan Emord: I think he has it all wrong, frankly, because Donald Trump is setting the agenda. Its not Reince Priebus. And Reince Priebus is implementing that agenda. And the notion that somehow Reince Priebus is the source of whatever problems this fellow [Ruddy] perceives is just naive.

Donald Trump is running the White House and the Executive Branch with a tremendous amount of direction & control. And to the extent that there are problems - I mean, people elected Donald Trump to shake things up in Washington. And they elected someone who is a person who is not willing to follow the game of politics as usual in Washington.

When he put out his Immigration Ban... If you read the Immigration Ban, I think you would be hard pressed to say there's something wrong with it. In implementing it,

Rense: There's nothing wrong with it, except he left out Saudi Arabia & Pakistan... that would be nine countries.

Jonathan Emord: I would agree with that.

So, they took a rather conservative approach in moving forward, in that they only identified those countries that had previously been identified by the prior administration as sources for terrorism. So, the challenge to the Immigration Ban should have been upheld. And there would be no way, but at least a hundred-some-odd people would be inconvenienced by implementation of it, no matter how you implemented it, if you were to do it efficiently. Now, if you did the way prior administrations would have been expected to do it, it might take you three months just to get it off the ground, by which time you would already have had it expire.

So, I think the decision in Washington State was flat wrong. I think the Ninth Circuit decision is grossly in error. And I think if we would have followed precedence, here, this would have been upheld, easily. So, I don't see any problem with this thing. And I think the Daily Caller has it all wrong.

Rense: Okay. The other thing about Priebus fill many WH (600) positions, regarding Johnny DeStefano, Director of White House personnel (allegedy hiring Republican establishment-biased people)... Any comment to this?

Jonathan Emord: Well, each of these people who's hired into the White House, for whatever purpose, comes with their own particular background. Again, if someone is going to be hired for a position, it ultimately has to be approved by the President. And what the president has shown thus far is a proclivity to hire people that are very powerful deregulators and opponents of the status quo throughout the government, thus far.

So, the details of hirers at the regulatory level are largely un-addressed to this date - we don't know who is going to be the head of the FDA, or the FTC - we have acting head there - and, we don't know who's going to be the head of various other agencies. We do know EPA, and a couple of other agencies...

Rense: We have Treasury, now...

Jonathan Emord: Yes, but as far as administrative agencies are concerned, there's alot of work being done there. The choice, however, thus far, that he's made have been strongly pro-deregulation, and he has been unwavering in his commitment to roll-back 75% of regulations put in place Executive Orders calling for two regulations to be removed for every regulation that is adopted & has in place. Right now, at least a freeze on the production of any new regulation - his actions on deregulation are the most dramatic of any administration since the Reagan era - and exceed the Reagan era in that commitment - to limit 75% of regulation.

So, the people I talk to are, frankly, amazed at the strength of conviction exercised by the president. Because, most people that get into the White House back away from these deregulation commitments, because they are accommodating the 'old guard' & maintaining politics as usual. He's not doing that. He's shaking up Washington, as he said he would. And he is adamant about deregulation, which is a delight to the outsiders he is bringing in.

Rense: Right. The problem that I think (sigh) that surrounds these issues is that the corrupt, rotten, vile - criminal Main Stream Media - is not transmitting what your visions, views & analyses are to the People. Not that they necessarily have to come from you. But if this was common knowledge in the Capital - along the 'Beltway' - we ought to be hearing some of it, and we're not - as you know - not that I go to these people (MSM) for my news.

But unfortunately, they are the Main Stream Media. Its a problem. We are not getting a fair & accurate portrayal of President Trump doing what he's doing, yet at all. Its only been a couple weeks, but still, I think this is going to continue. I don't think the Main Stream Media is ever going to 'turn over a new leaf'. They are what they are & I don't think that most people understand that.

Jonathan Emord: You know, there are problems. There are some major problems that are distressing some leading members of Congress who have established that he's bona fide on these issues, that are in the minority. And they're worried right now that the commitment to get rid of ObamaCare - to repeal & replace Obamacare - is consciously being derailed by a majority of Republicans in the United States Senate. They fear that those members will not eliminate all the Obamacare taxes. And, they're going to keep in place most of Obamacare, unwilling to fulfill their campaign promises to get rid of it. That is compounded by the fear that the White House will not move rapidly enough to dismantle Obamacare. But will instead, agree to the complaints that are coming from these people that actually have an ulterior motive in keeping it - in that, they will say, or are saying, you cannot repeal Obamacare without a full plan for replacement... that you've got to delay implementation of measures that would repeal Obamacare, keeping in place most of it, if you wish to fulfill the president's statement that he will keep in place the coverage for children of covered adults. And also, the care for those who are suffering from terminal illness, and insurance coverage for the terminally ill.

And the problem is that, as is seen by these leading Republicans - who are leading in the sense that they are interested in serious change - if you don't hurry up & get rid of the taxes that are going to come into place, and have a significant adverse effect on the effort to revitalize the economy, and is also going to steal the momentum necessary to achieve a complete repeal... leaving the system in place for many years - so, that is a big concern.

On the positive side, they say that there is a consensus on Capitol Hill to implement a major overhaul of the tax code - simplifying and breaking it into essentially two to three rates on the individuals side & lowering it - bringing down the top rates & eliminating some people from the bottom of the tax system, and then, engaging in corporate reform. The efforts to derail the tax movement, which are not gaining enough traction, fortunately - they are overwhelmed by those that are serious, including Paul Ryan on taxes, is the movement to separate corporate tax reduction from individual tax reduction, push through the individual tax reduction, and essentially never come through with the corporate reduction, which happens to be the most important part of it in order to revitalize the economy. He wanted to bring it down to 30-32%.

Rense: Okay... the immigration story... the judge, and then the Ninth Circuit... The president is talking about bringing another Executive Order forward this week. Do you hear that? And is that going to happen?

Jonathan Emord: I think he will. But I believe this is the strategy... you have a number of options. One is to persistently, and doggedly pursue the existing order through the Appellate System, or a hearing at the district court level. You have a terrible district court judge, who made a decision, by the way of this Executive Order, within 15 minutes of oral argument. Its an irresponsible decision. The Ninth Circuit Court decision is ridiculous because its predicated on something that isn't there - its not a Muslim ban. It doesn't matter what Trump said on the campaign trail, its what he wrote in what is the Order. The Order itself applies to these countries & has nothing to do with whether someone is a Muslim or not. Its focused on limiting immigration from these countries or banning them altogether. And that is the prerogative of the president consistent with the power delegated by Congress by statute to the president. And the decision by the Ninth Circuit doesn't even make reference to the statute, although it was presented by the Justice Department in oral argument.

The case could go before the Supreme Court - it could be considered on an expedited basis - that would be one option. The other option would be to take up the matter on the district court level, because the ultimate proof has not been presented. This is a temporary restraining order, not a permanent injunction. The problem with both of those options is that briefing & decision making take another 30-40 days, and the ultimate outcome is uncertain. The third option is to pursue a new Executive Order, but at the same time, expedite the revisions to the vetting program for extreme vetting, and put those in place so that it won't matter, ultimately, whether the Executive Order is upheld - it will buy you a period of time for the implementation that should already be under way for the extreme vetting. And once that's in place, it won't matter whether the Executive Order is upheld, or not. It would already be implemented through DHS (Homeland Security) - it becomes irrelevant.

So, I think that is what he's going to do - put in place an Executive Order that addresses some of the concerns or articulated by the district court of the Ninth Circuit, even though the decision doesn't put much credence on those decisions, while at the same time accelerating the process of implementing the program for extreme vetting, so they can minimize the potential for terrorists to come into the country as refugees, or otherwise, come into the country with an inadequate amount of vetting taking place in the countries of origin that are listed.

The reason why they didn't list Saudi Arabia is there has been, thus far, a significant amount of cooperation between the Saudi Arabian government and the Americans in vetting Saudis coming to this country. It may be, for all I know, the Saudis are committed to increasing the vetting consistent with the extreme vetting program - I just don't know.

Rense: Well, Mr Pompeo gave the Saudis a medal for combating terrorism, which is kind of funny on the face of it - gotta laugh.

Jonathan Emord: Well, that's where most of the 9/11 terrorists came from. The Saudis are important to the United States strategically so we can make use of their facilities in the event of a need for that & the expansion of our activity in the Gulf. But they've been very unreliable in many respects - and it merely a question of what is in the best interests of the United States. If they will cooperate with the extreme vetting, that's much better than if they become more steadfast in opposition to what we want. So its a difficult situation, but I do believe the Secretary of Defense, the DHS Secretary, are people that are level-headed, good strategic thinkers, and are giving good advice to the president.

The real source of the argument against Trump is a rather mindless open border policy which has been Merkel's view. It is a globalist view that really stems from another repudiation of American exceptionalism & nationalism. The notion that somehow we should be open to the world - and this is something that feeds into this Ninth Circuit decision - which effectively, granted American Constitutional rights to individuals that are foreign alien that have no claim to citizenship in this country. They've extended the protection of due process clause of the Constitution to individuals far beyond permanent resident aliens to anyone essentially in the world. This is unprecedented & so grossly in error that it conflicts with the Constitution - that was the three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit.

Rense: Sanctuary Cities is another lunacy on the landscape of our republic.

Jonathan Emord: It is. I think its indicative of the so-far-Left that you've fallen off the planet. The people that are endorsing this whole approach of obstructionism, whether it is to avoid any interaction with Donald Trump, if you're in the Congress - to vote against everything that he recommends, regardless of the merits of the particular thing - to just be an obstructionist to resist, no matter what it is - resist - mindless obstructionism - is the perfect opponent for anyone that is a Republican. If you wish to achieve success, you would really have to ask for an opponent who would be idiotic in their opposition to anything that is potentially productive - and that is what they are doing.

On the Sanctuary Cities front, there are thousands of places around the United States that call themselves Sanctuary Cities that have been harboring, not only illegal aliens, but also criminal illegal aliens. And the Trump Administration has authorized ICE to apprehend, rapidly prosecute, send from this country, illegal aliens who have a criminal record is the first priority in enforcing the immigration laws. And I believe, they underestimate Donald Trump. I can't imagine why they would. He frankly doesn't care what popular opinion is associated with ensuring the immigration laws are enforced. He intends to enforce them. And with these Sanctuary Cities, he has threatened to cut off federal funding for them if they won't abide by the law and don't allow those who are committing crimes, who are illegally there, to be arrested by the Feds. And if they obstruct that, he will - he will cut off the funds. I think he is quite serious about that. I find it interesting that a number of cities have changed their tune, after insisting that they would remain Sanctuary Cities - they've confirmed to the fed that would not remain Sanctuary cities any more. Then there are those that are rather moronic in their demand that they will see this through to the end - like DeBlasio, Rahm Emanuel. And that's just great. Let them experience being cut off from federal funding.

It would be a great savings. It would help balance the budget - lower the amount of expenditure & they're so stupid, they don't realize the consequence of not cooperating with the feds - the funds will be cut off - it will be enormously harmful to their core constituents, which will immediately react to those political figures, much more than they will against Donald Trump. They'll attempt to blame Trump for all of the consequences, but in the end, they're going to be cannibalized by the people in their own party. They are going to say that they defended the interests of illegal aliens over constituents in need...

And you may guess how long these politicians will last after this occurs...

[turiya]

Trump did not cause the deep division
in the country - It caused him (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/16/internal-secession-and-the-road-to-ruin-two-countries/)

Guest Post by Fred Reed (http://fredoneverything.org/author/fredreed/)
Trump did not cause the deep division in the country. It caused him.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3lswIV8f7c

There are two very different Americas. I suspect that the half of the country that voted for Trump, that voted with wild enthusiasm, that roared at huge rallies, was not so much voting for Trump as against the other America. It was just that they had never had a chance before. The two countries have little in common and do not belong on the same geography.

Whether Trump proves to be the catastrophic buffoon he apparently aspires to be, the current protests illuminate a stark difference between his supporters and Hillary’s. The chasm is far deeper than just politics, embracing culture, taste, manners and morals. The groups are distinct and incompatible.

The difference begins with manners. Throughout the campaign Trump’s partisans forgathered in huge rallies, applauded, calmly went home, and later voted. At the same time we saw on Clinton’s behalf mobs of ill-bred, worse mannered, loutish, perennial adolescents blocking highways, shutting down rallies, engaging in vandalism and physically attacking supporters of Trump. Cars were destroyed, fires set, ATMs smashed. Black Lives Matter, always ghetto predators, were worst, but low-grade college students and their equally dismal professors joined in. They were obscene, infantile.

And naive: They apparently believe that they harm Trump though of course their behavior drives people in the other direction. I am no fan of Donald , but I look the foregoing and think Anything else.


http://istoriya.online/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/e179db4a3b2b2ace864375645d16d2d1.jpg

The desire to shock of the eternally pubescent. Smirk, smirk, look at me, smirk, smirk.

We saw Ashley Judd (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/21/ashley-judd-im-not-as-nasty-as-white-privilege-or-as-using-little-girls-like-pokemon/), apparently an actress, addressing the “Women’s March.”

“I am not as nasty as racism, fraud, conflict of interest, homophobia, sexual assault, transphobia, white supremacy, misogyny, ignorance, white privilege. I’m not as nasty as using little girls like Pokemon before their bodies have even developed. I am not as nasty as your own daughter being your favorite sex symbol, like your wet dreams infused with your own genes.”



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghVSZNYPXtw

The astonishing thing is not that some foul-mouthed twit came up with such cloacal gush, but that the “Women’s March” sponsored her, did not eject or even censure her.

Can you imagine any of Trump’s middle-American supporters accusing Obama of lusting for incest with his daughters? The two camps are different peoples. Half of the country seems culturally dominated from the ghetto. The other half embodies standards of behavior that have usually been thought congruent with civil society. While Trump himself is crass, making menstrual jibes on the air at Megyn Kelly for example, his supporters are not.

Any number of arguments can be adduced against Trump but so much of the outpouring of hostility, even from the intelligent, lacks thought. Thisaphobe, thataphobe, Nazi, misogynist. Putin’s Bitch. Most seem not to know what the words mean, or care.

Wild thought: We may be seeing Darwinian regression. The intellectual nanoparticles waving placards, the sobbing talking headesses may represent the return of the procaryote IQ. They give us a living paleontological record of what life looked like before it evolved. Think “Cambrian Implosion.” I imagine Rachel Maddow with twelve body segments and compound eyes.

Different peoples. I would like to see a comparative poll: How many women who voted for Trump would allow themselves to be associated with Ms. Judd’s remarks? None, I suspect. How many women voting for Trump would parade around in “pussy hats”? How many fathers voting for Trump would allow their daughters, have raised their daughters, to behave as the

“Women’s Marchers”? Their children to copy Black Lives Matter?

Different civilizations. Virtually no overlap.

The media are decidedly of the Clinton America. In Washington at least some journalists donned pussy hats and jointed the demonstrators. Trashy behavior has seeped into many in the professional classes. Trump recently sued (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/melania-trump-libel-suit-blogger-234263) a journalist and the London Daily Mail for describing Melania as “a high-end escort”–i.e., a take-out call girl, a prostitute. Can you imagine a conservative paper–say, the Washington Times, The American Conservative, National Review–describing Michelle Obama as a whore? Or Trump’s fans wearing scrotal hats?

There is a brattyness in the apparent belief of the Clinton Americans that they are entitled to the electoral result of their choice. When they don’t get it,they act like spoiled two-year-olds. Poor widdle fings! It is embarrassing. If Hillary had won, would disappointed Trumpists be squalling and posing in genital headgear or looting and burning? Whatever the merits of the politics of either side, the two have little in common culturally.

The divide is far deeper and more general than the heat of the election. The sprawling class from which the protesters come, not just in Washington or just recently, opposes the bedrock of our approximation of democracy. It is not an economic divide. On American campuses almost everywhere “students,” most of whom do not have the intelligence for college, use the tactics of Brown Shirts to shut down speeches by anyone who does not agree with them. They have no conception of reasoned debate, toleration of disagreement, or respect for law. Rather than promote assimilation to the American norm, or what was the American norm, the only hope to keep the country from devolving into warring tribes, they promote identity politics. They do not, for example, disavow the depredations of Black Lives Matter. Any behavior is acceptable, even admirable, if engaged in by their side.

Decorum and its lack are recurrent themes. I have no hard evidence, but suspect that the Other America believes that men should behave as gentlemen and women, ladies; that sex should be a private matter and in particular that children should not be too early exposed to it. Clinton’s America leans more to the view that sexual language is authentic and natural. Hemorrhagic tuberculosis is natural, but perhaps not to be encouraged. And so from a mainstream performer, Beyonce (http://www.fuse.tv/2013/12/beyonce-new-album-raunchy-sexy-lyrics), the lyrics

“Can you lick my Skittles, it’s the sweetest in the middle/ Pink is the flavor, solve the riddle”

Painfully cute. Can you imagine Billie Holiday singing this? Ella Fitzgerald? From rappers there is far more explicit, scatological, and sadomasochistic “music.” Whether you think this is people’s art, the authentic expression of an oppressed race, or something that should be scrawled on the wall of a public toilet, tracks with who you voted for. Again, two countries.


http://www.anarchistagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/920x1240-2-570x381.jpeg

“Berkeley (http://ktla.com/2017/02/02/uc-berkeley-protests-of-breitbarts-milo-yiannopoulos-caused-100000-in-damage/)Protests of Breitbart’s Milo Yiannopoulos Caused $100,000 in Damage”

“Protests that erupted at UC Berkeley ahead of a planned Wednesday appearance by right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos caused $100,000 worth of damage to the campus, the school said Thursday.”

These vandals are the storm troopers of the Clinton America. I cannot imagine the Other America behaving thusly because of the scheduling of any speaker whatever.

For whatever reason, those who regard themselves as liberals are far more given to demonstrating and rioting than conservatives, and far more vulgar. I say “regard themselves as liberals.” Their behavior is opposite to classical liberalism. Vulgarity is not liberalism. Neither is arson. Neither is suppression of free speech. All of these are now the norm on campuses, in the media, among both students and professors. And among the protesters.

Another country.

Protests as such give little to deplore. Demonstrations are both legal and constitutionally protected if well behaved, and the women in Washington were. It is the values they represent that marks them as another country. The self-satisfaction appalls, the belief that they represent the universe. Coming together in vast shared tantrums, endlessly reaffirming each other on Facebook, may give them an exaggerated impression of their numbers. Thus the frequent use of the phrase “we the people.” Actually they are “we, quite a large number of the people.” As I write Trump’s approval stands at 52%. My guess is that the man’s unending truculence will lower his numbers, but it hasn’t yet. And a complete failure of his presidency will not change the fact that half of the country is thoroughly sick of the other half.

Where does this lead?


The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/16/internal-secession-and-the-road-to-ruin-two-countries/)
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[A Voice from the Mountains]

Big development. Tillerson just gutted the 7th floor shadow government of the State Department:


State Dept. carries out layoffs under Rex Tillerson

While Rex Tillerson is on his first overseas trip as Secretary of State, his aides laid off staff at the State Department on Thursday.

Much of seventh-floor staff, who work for the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources and the Counselor offices, were told today that their services were no longer needed.

These staffers in particular are often the conduit between the secretary’s office to the country bureaus, where the regional expertise is centered. Inside the State Department, some officials fear that this is a politically-minded purge that cuts out much-needed expertise from the policy-making, rather than simply reorganizing the bureaucracy.

There are clear signals being sent that many key foreign policy portfolios will be controlled directly by the White House, rather than through the professional diplomats.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-dept-layoffs-under-rex-tillerson-being-carried-out/

[AlanPage007]

People who expect fast action for them on their issues without deep inspection of consequences will always be part of the problem.
I suggest you checkout the Adaptive Program for Agriculture that is archived at the Carnige Foundation. It documents the take down of rural communities by those who could benefit from reduction of the independence of self reliant small farmers. The story goes global with John Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hit Man. This problem spans the gammut of all persuasions. Be very careful!

[Eram]

At 2:08:30 of the above Infowars video in Post #92 has Steve Pieczenik coming on and assuring Alex that everything is under control, as part of the previous 'soft coup' that has already taken place. Lt General Mike Flynn had already known, for some time prior, that he would not remain in the Trump Administration for very long. All the emotional tirades that are taking place - in the media, Hollywood celebs, Michael Moore, etc., are like small infants pooping in their pants while still throwing their ongoing tantrams over having lost the election.

I will be posting the 18-19 minute segment of the Wednesday, February 15, 2017 Alex Jones Show containing the interview quite soon. The re-establishment of the Republic will be forthcoming... no worries, according to Steve Pieczenik.


Steve Pieczenik on Lt General
Mike Flynn's Resignation
(Published February 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-80k7ANVQzc

I just don't get the game that Pieczenik plays on the infowars shows.
I didn't get it during last summer when he talked about the counter coupe and I don't get it now.

All I see that he addresses facts, but in a way that seems totally out of touch with reality to me, or at least does not fit into the picture that exists in my mind about the situation.

For instance: The firing of Flynn gets downplayed three times by Pieczenik with the words: "It was always anticipated that Flynn was not going to stay on for a long time" (paraphrasing). As if him being fired was somehow not connected to the firestorm over the phone call and withholding info on Pence. As if this was al part of some larger plan.
What is he talking about? To me it seems clear that the deep state is fighting the Trump administration and won a battle.
How can he just downplay on that?



Meanwhile, Obama seems to have dug in into some sort of bunker type mansion, only two miles from the white house and is setting up a civil army in order to counter Trump.
This is unheard of.
An outgoing president who actively engages in a counter movement to the incoming president.
Unheard of and I think a real and present threat to the Trump administration.

To me it seems like the precursors for civil war are well underway, Ukraine style.

LMgNsrO636E

[7alon]

So what do you guys think? Is this another reference to Trump 'cleaning house' ?

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1487319495229.png

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1487320639716.png

[turiya]

I just don't get the game that Pieczenik plays on the infowars shows.
I didn't get it during last summer when he talked about the counter coupe and I don't get it now.

All I see that he addresses facts, but in a way that seems totally out of touch with reality to me, or at least does not fit into the picture that exists in my mind about the situation.

For instance: The firing of Flynn gets downplayed three times by Pieczenik with the words: "It was always anticipated that Flynn was not going to stay on for a long time" (paraphrasing). As if him being fired was somehow not connected to the firestorm over the phone call and withholding info on Pence. As if this was al part of some larger plan.
What is he talking about? To me it seems clear that the deep state is fighting the Trump administration and won a battle.
How can he just downplay on that?

Meanwhile, Obama seems to have dug in into some sort of bunker type mansion, only two miles from the white house and is setting up a civil army in order to counter Trump.
This is unheard of.
An outgoing president who actively engages in a counter movement to the incoming president.
Unheard of and I think a real and present threat to the Trump administration.

To me it seems like the precursors for civil war are well underway, Ukraine style.



So what do you guys think? Is this another reference to Trump 'cleaning house' ?



Try listening to the Catherine Austin Fitts interview from Post #78 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1134305&viewfull=1#post1134305)... she has a good explanation on this. I think you may figure out what side of the fence that Pieczenik sits on... with regard to the Deep State... He had put out a video (or it could be one of the Alex Jones interviews) whereby he explained that he was determined to be the spokesperson to the American public, this is probably because of his frequent interviews done on the Alex Jones show...


VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx9_paDhpQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx9_paDhpQs)

[BMJ]

Eight years ago one of the first things I remember learning about obama was that he liked to play golf and he liked to watch sports with his male companion, reggie love. With trump it was the 1st or 2nd day after inauguration he freed us from the TPP as Eram pointed out. We saw we had a real worker bee in the white house and it gave many a sense of security. It also infuriated others I believe out of jealousy for his work ethic.

Yes Trump is a very busy little bee.

Trump works an 18 hour day, sleeps 4 hours a day seven days a week thats super human commitment.

Trump receives no salary as President.

Has an effective pragmatic business style of presidency.

Is probably at least 2 moves ahead of the game on most issues.

Coupled with the results that really should tell you about the "heart" and the "mind" of "The Don".

[Eram]

Thanks Turyia,

I already listened to the interview some time ago.

But what are you saying exactly?
Are you not worried by recent developments?

Firing of Flynn.
Trump making adjustments to his former statements on wanting to get closer to Russia
Obama in his bunker and creating an army of agents provocateurs


Do you think everything is going according to plan and there is no need for alarm?

[turiya]

Thanks Turyia,

I already listened to the interview some time ago.

But what are you saying exactly?
Are you not worried by recent developments?

Firing of Flynn.
Trump making adjustments to his former statements on wanting to get closer to Russia
Obama in his bunker and creating an army of agents provocateurs


Do you think everything is going according to plan and there is no need for alarm?

I comfortably sense that everything is on track with Trump in the White House... However, this does not mean that the ride will be a smooth one.... the Democrats - Schumer, Pelosi, etc... - the economy, the dollar, the MSM, the banksters, Michael Moore & George Soros's paid rioting youth...

[Eram]

I sure hope you are right Turiya.


I will not forget that you already where right about Trumps election, against all odds, but from what I'm able to see, things look unstable and the executive powers of Trump diminishing by the hour.
I think the Trump administration needs to go into the counter offensive and deal with the threats head on and with a clear, truthful message.

[turiya]

I sure hope you are right Turiya.

I will not forget that you already where right about Trumps election, against all odds, but from what I'm able to see, things look unstable and the executive powers of Trump diminishing by the hour.
I think the Trump administration needs to go into the counter offensive and deal with the threats head on and with a clear, truthful message.

Seems to me that Trump's got some help with this. Pieczenik & the people he is connected with will be monitoring this instability & will ultimately be defining where the limits are to be drawn on this.

Pieczenik from the previous Alex Jones interview video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-80k7ANVQzc):

Pieczenik:

When people are ineffectual, and they have been Ace'd out - which is what happened to Hillary, its what happened to Bill Clinton, its what's happened to the entire left, it happened to the Democratic Party - they didn't know how fast we were moving in & how quickly we could eviscerate them.

They are eviscerated! Everything else that's occurring is nothing but a bunch of sheeps bleating out & complaining, but it has absolutely no effect, whatsoever.

If however they continue to make pronouncements, like the following:
That Trump is crazy - which he is not... That Trump is mad - which he is not. And this is made by psychologists, then I strongly recommend that Trump & the Administration file suit against the American Psychiatric... against the American Psychological Association... and against every physician who has positively stated that on TV, including the comedians - Bill Maher, Steve Colbert, Jon Stewart or anyone else that makes that pronouncement - that is beyond the Freedom of Speech. That has to do with slander of the personality... Its also medical malpractice. When I saw a group of psychologists - 30 of them, none of whom I knew - state categorically that Trump had mental illness, that was grounds for debarring & delegitimizing their academic credentials.

There is no reason, whatsoever, for anyone to make that kind of diagnosis unless they have seen Trump, they have gone & talked with him, and I can guarantee that is not the conclusion that they would come to.

However, this kind of hysteria, which is really created by the Left, and by the frustration, & impotence, of the comedians, and of the politicians, is what we can expect. But there will be limits that will be set.

Now, let me go back into why its important that Flynn left...

[Whiskey_Mystic]

What we are seeing with Trump being indignant at every question, calling everyone fake news, pathological lying, etc.

This is a person who has spent his entire life in extreme privilege and has never been questioned or accountable to anyone. He has done and said whatever he likes his entire life. And now he has stepped outside of the bubble and is baffled by these people questioning him. A spoiled child throwing tantrums constantly. The Man-Baby in Chief.

He is an unknowing and unwitting pawn who has no idea what he is doing. It continues to astonish me how many people drink the kool-aid.

[turiya]

Dear Whiskey_Mystic
I Hope you have received my PM that I've sent to you with a request that you please place your negative Trump messages onto another more appropriate thread - take for example, the Trump is NOT the answer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer) thread. You will find commradery there with others that also feel the same as you.

Best regards....

In the meantime, enjoy Trump's latest Press Conference... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5a7Xni67Ho) :)


Donald Trump press briefing
lasts more than an hour
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5a7Xni67Ho

[turiya]

Title says what it is...



Greg Hunter-Weekly News Wrap-Up 2.17.17
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD-j9TX8lZ4__________________________

SR #1501: Obama Coup D’état -
Gen. Flynn’s Leaker Will Be Caught
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG4C2UkL-I

[Rocky_Shorz]

Dan Olmsted leading autism expert killed the day before he was to meet Trump...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/atat7.jpg



He did a study finding Amish didn't have Autism, because they never vaccinate their children.

CDC says it's because they don't use electricity...

RIP my friend, we won't let your fight for truth die.

[Helene West]

I sure hope you are right Turiya.


I will not forget that you already where right about Trumps election, against all odds, but from what I'm able to see, things look unstable and the executive powers of Trump diminishing by the hour.
I think the Trump administration needs to go into the counter offensive and deal with the threats head on and with a clear, truthful message.

Eram
I've been feeling similar to you until yesterday when I actually watched the press conference. It was such a different experience than reading all the articles of intrigue of late. He was cool and collected. Handled the press like a pro. Didn't seem razzled, confused, burnt out or anything untowards. Seemed centered in the moment to me. I'm not a psychic and he could be a very experienced actor in front of the camera but I don't think so cause we all have seen him get emotional in front of the camera. I felt better listening to him.

I listened to the BBC interview posted afterwards with one of his staff and listening to the BBC guy you have to wonder are we listening to the same press conference, watching the same person? They used the word 'unhinged' again. Have these people ever observed an unhinged person? I'm just in awe of the blatant dishonesty of trump haters. I'm convinced they are capable of any capital or criminal offenses. Their pure malice makes me agree with you that trump better handle these people straight on and in no uncertain terms as they are very dangerous to all of us. He acknowledged the hate towards him and showed some bewilderment at the DEGREE of the hate when he watches CNN et al. Acknowledgment is good but it is still not handling it. We all need him to Handle it decisively.
More shall be revealed....

[A Voice from the Mountains]

What we are seeing with Trump being indignant at every question, calling everyone fake news, pathological lying, etc.

This is a person who has spent his entire life in extreme privilege and has never been questioned or accountable to anyone.

So much for your theory on that one. I grew up poor and I would have had much worse to say to the media. You must be living in an alternative universe in Los Angeles or something, somewhere like a living Jerry Springer circus 24/7, to actually sympathize with the media in this country and believe they have any legitimacy as journalists. You should do a Google search on how many 100% fake stories CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WSJ, etc. etc. have published lately.

One guy asked Trump if (rightfully) attacking the press wasn't undermining the 1st Amendment. No, a mainstream media controlled by the deep state is undermining the 1st Amendment. Making up total malicious lies and peddling them around as truth is undermining the first amendment. What they are doing is treasonous and they should all be shut down as hostile foreign entities, because they are all owned or are taking money by international globalists.



I listened to the BBC interview posted afterwards with one of his staff and listening to the BBC guy you have to wonder are we listening to the same press conference, watching the same person? They used the word 'unhinged' again. Have these people ever observed an unhinged person? I'm just in awe of the blatant dishonesty of trump haters.

It's my hope that as all of this progresses, more and more people will be shocked awake by the huge gap between reality and media portrayals of reality. It's total gaslighting.

[Eram]

Eram
I've been feeling similar to you until yesterday when I actually watched the press conference. It was such a different experience than reading all the articles of intrigue of late. He was cool and collected. Handled the press like a pro. Didn't seem razzled, confused, burnt out or anything untowards. Seemed centered in the moment to me. I'm not a psychic and he could be a very experienced actor in front of the camera but I don't think so cause we all have seen him get emotional in front of the camera. I felt better listening to him.



I saw the press conference too and it did not comfort me to the extend that you describe.


His remark that nobody will be tougher on the Russians, combined with the UN Ambassador's claim that Russia is attacking Ukraine forces in the disputed Eastern Ukraine territory, combined with his remark of late that Russia better turns back Crimea to Ukraine makes me think that Trump is making compromises on his very common sense attitude toward Russia (we'd better be friends) during his election campaign.
Why would he do that other then an attempt to win over the hearts and minds of the forces within the GOP and outside of it that are opposing him?

There are other signs that he still tries to win over the total of the GOP to his side.
Same goes for the press.

This is a strategy that will lead him nowhere fast imo and it denies the reality that these opposing forces will keep undermining him and will go on until they got what they want, his resignation.

I agree with the Robert Steel assessment that Trump is very likely isolated in the white house and is not getting the right information.
People like Priebus who are feeding him wrong and poisoned advice.

I get the very strong sense that Trump is confused about certain issues and is at the moment unable to make the decisions that might lead to overcoming all the obstacles that are in his way.



PS: Turyia, It's clear to me now that you are not particularly keen on me posting such worries on this thread.
It's a pity to me that you feel that way, because i feel the need to communicate with others about these worries and I can't think of a better place to do so then your Trump Threads.
But.. Unless you change your mind, this will be my last post here about any worries regarding Trump and his presidency.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Looks like the all the leftist race-baiting identity politics is starting to backfire on them:


Black Trump Supporter Blasts Sanctuary Cities: “All the Jobs Are Going to Illegals!”

"When my people do a crime, they get three strikes, your people do a crime, they get amnesty"

Video footage from a town hall meeting in Cudahy, California shows an African-American Trump supporter passionately slamming sanctuary cities as a racist assault on the black community.

“Sanctuary cities are racist – black communities have been destroyed by illegal immigration,” says the woman, adding that the situation called for a “second civil rights movement.”

Tracing her ancestry back to slave ships, the woman said, “I’m not going anywhere….sanctuary cities are racist, all the jobs are going to illegals….that is wrong, you’re not going to be allowed to get away with it….the black community has been destroyed by racist illegal immigration and we’re not gonna have it.”

“When my people do a crime, they get three strikes, your people do a crime, they get amnesty, they get benefits and they’re not paying taxes,” she added.

“Thank God for Trump, thank God for Sessions and you should be ashamed of yourselves, how dare you?” roared the woman, questioning why illegals were allowed to claim benefits for people living back in Mexico, while her own family members struggled in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

Trump has threatened to cut off federal funds to so-called “sanctuary cities” that prevent law enforcement from apprehending illegal aliens. Polls show that 56 per cent of Hispanics support Trump’s policy of deporting illegal immigrants with criminal records.

President Trump’s promise that he would help the inner cities and get back jobs that illegals have taken away from African-Americans is one of the reasons why Trump outperformed previous Republican candidates.

He beat Romney’s share of the black vote by 7 points also did better than Romney with Latinos by a margin of 8 points.

Polls found that 58.5 percent of Hispanic voters supported Donald Trump’s immigration policy compared to 32.9 percent for failed Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

http://www.infowars.com/black-trump-supporter-blasts-sanctuary-cities-all-the-jobs-are-going-to-illegals/


Steele is saying that the Soros minions are planning an Arab Spring-style "American Spring" as soon as the weather warms up, and how much do you want to bet that if this happens, the millions of illegal immigrants in this country are going to be front and center in the rioting and violence that ensues. I get that people come here for better living conditions but these are literally criminal foreign nationals in the US and California even lets them vote in our elections. If you want to immigrate here you have to do it through legal means just like in any other civilized country. We can't handle this overwhelming number of foreign nationals in our cities.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Dear Whiskey_Mystic
I Hope you have received my PM that I've sent to you with a request that you please place your negative Trump messages onto another more appropriate thread - take for example, the Trump is NOT the answer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer) thread. You will find commradery there with others that also feel the same as you.

Best regards....



No.

Avalon is not a place where voices that you do not wish to hear are censored and silenced. It is a forum of discussion and dissenting opinions.

Threads on Avalon are not private playgrounds that you personally moderate and control.

If you just want an echo chamber where everyone repeats your own opinion back to you, I am sorry but I cannot help you.

[turiya]

X22 Reports... interesting youtube channel for news updates...


Is There A Hidden Message In
Michael Flynn's Resignation Letter?
Episode 1205b
(Published on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRjoZTuGKTg__________________________

Janet Yellen Just Revealed Something Huge
But No One Is Listening
Episode 1205a
(Published on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Q0kqNCUpU__________________________

U.S. Not So Innocent, CIA Involved In Espionage
Leading Up To The French Elections
Episode 1206b
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxxpMorSCPo__________________________

Greek Bank Runs Begin Again,
Bankers Go On Alert
Episode 1206a
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knjWrm2JgWE__________________________

[Helene West]

Eram
I hope you don't stop expressing your 'worries' here. Your worries are rational and polite and especially since you mentioned previously that you come from a solid left leaning family, et al but yet you are able to step back and reason and observe on your own I find interesting. I cannot speak for Turiya but I've not gotten the impression that he objects to your posts. I've only seen him suggest to a trump hater that there are more appropriate threads for him to express himself.

As far as my reaction mentioned above to trump's press conference yesterday I just meant it made me feel better than I had been. It didn't shoo away all my anxiety by a long shot but yeah, I just felt a little better.

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Whiskey_Mystic
I Hope you have received my PM that I've sent to you with a request that you please place your negative Trump messages onto another more appropriate thread - take for example, the Trump is NOT the answer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer) thread. You will find commradery there with others that also feel the same as you.

Best regards....



No.

Avalon is not a place where voices that you do not wish to hear are censored and silenced. It is a forum of discussion and dissenting opinions.

Threads on Avalon are not private playgrounds that you personally moderate and control.

If you just want an echo chamber where everyone repeats your own opinion back to you, I am sorry but I cannot help you.


I agree with this response from Whiskey. If differing opinions are discussed with intelligence, detail and courtesy, this can genuinely help readers who may be undecided or even confused about an issue.

One of the forum's functions is to assist others in exactly this way. We're not a propaganda platform, but a bunch of friends — ideally! — discussing important things over a shared pot of coffee and a large pile of cookies. :)

Having said that, (this @Whiskey, whom I respect) please do add grounded value to the discussion. I'd venture to suggest that this...
What we are seeing with Trump being indignant at every question, calling everyone fake news, pathological lying, etc.

This is a person who has spent his entire life in extreme privilege and has never been questioned or accountable to anyone. He has done and said whatever he likes his entire life. And now he has stepped outside of the bubble and is baffled by these people questioning him. A spoiled child throwing tantrums constantly. The Man-Baby in Chief.

He is an unknowing and unwitting pawn who has no idea what he is doing. It continues to astonish me how many people drink the kool-aid.

... read like more of an emotional response than a detailed, well-argued one.

I personally disagree with your summary, on the basis of what I feel I know and understand, but if you can convince me you're correct, I'll be listening. That's the important thing.

:focus:

[onawah]

The extreme polarization that is in evidence now on the planet is a sure sign that the agenda of the elites is working, and it's working on this forum as well, especially re Trump.
Divide and conquer has long been their motto.
I post mostly on the Trump is Not the Answer thread about Trump not because I was ever a fan of Hillary or because I think Trump is the worst POTUS yet, but because I'm not 100% convinced, as Turiya apparently is, that he is a great hero who is going to save the day, though he may have been the only man for the job at this particular time simply because no one else better was running.
Though I still like Bernie, I'm not convinced that he could have done the job without a fortune like Trump's behind him, and most of his followers are still much too naive.
I don't see the Trump is NOT the Answer as a thread for Trump haters, but the best place so far for an unbiased discussion.
(He's NOT the answer to a LOT of problems, which should be obvious to even the biggest Trump lover, but no POTUS ever was or likely ever will be.)
Perhaps a new thread, or a new name for the Not the Answer thread would help to neutralize some of this friction.

[ThePythonicCow]

I agree with this response from Whiskey. If differing opinions are discussed with intelligence, detail and courtesy, this can genuinely help readers who may be undecided or even confused about an issue.

One of the forum's functions is to assist others in exactly this way. We're not a propaganda platform, but a bunch of friends — ideally! — discussing important things over a shared pot of coffee and a large pile of cookies. :)
While Bill was composing and posting this specific response, on this thread, to these concerns, I was busy composing a more general response to such questions, over on the new moderators' resource (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95964-A-new-moderators-resource-that-we-think-will-help-everyone&p=1134957&viewfull=1#post1134957) thread.

I came, on my own, to much the same conclusion as did Bill. I too welcome the participation in, and contributions to, this thread that have been made so far.

[turiya]

Thank you, Bill & Paul for clarifying. Understand what you are saying.
I also would welcome a discussion to allegations that are well-grounded with some factual information.
Otherwise, it is rather difficult to debate a purely emotional response on the basis of a difference in personality types.
At the very least, Whiskey's post can be perceived as a thread 'bump'.

Thanks again, and...
Best...


________________________________

Moving right along.... Paul Joseph Watson gives his 2 cents worth regarding the sacking of Lt. General Mike Flynn...


Flynn Resignation A Deep State
Sabotage Of Trump
(Published on Feb 14, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfkRsc6tL4s________________________________

Robert David Steele interview begins at 5:30



Former CIA Operative: Trump
Is Battling Pedophile Network
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1PShWvO5U________________________________


Robert Steele: Memorandum for the President – Warning
on a Violent American Spring, Eight Actions for
Donald Trump to Make America Great Again (http://phibetaiota.net/2017/02/robert-steele-memorandum-for-the-president-warning-on-american-spring-riots-eight-actions-to-make-america-great-again/)

Categories:

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Robert David STEELE Vivas


MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT

WARNING: You have 30 days to settle the country. A violent “American Spring” looms.

You are under attack on three fronts:





The Extreme Left & the controlled “fake news (http://phibetaiota.net/?s=fake+news)” MSM
US Neo-Conservatives led by Dick Cheney (http://phibetaiota.net/2007/01/vice-dick-cheney-and-the-hijacking-of-the-american-presidency-7/), funded by foreigners
The Deep State (http://phibetaiota.net/?s=Deep+State) of entrenched senior officials combined with Senators and Representatives being blackmailed and bribed to betray the Republic.

You are not under attack from Iran or Russia – all your existential fights are right here.

There are four things you need to do immediately in order to survive:


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Our President, Under Siege!




Switch out Preibus and Flynn — smart choices for the transition, they are undermining you now, Tillerson and Mattis probably agree they both need to go. You need a loyal Chief of Staff who can manage complexity, and a National Strategy Advisor with balance.
Introduce the Electoral Reform Act of 2017 (http://phibetaiota.net/2016/10/robert-steele-rigged-twelve-ways-the-two-party-tyranny-rigs-the-us-electoral-system-to-block-out-independents-small-parties-and-70-of-the-eligible-voters/) and demand that it go through – this is the only way you will survive the looming demise of the Republican Party; the only way you legitimize your accidental 27% presidency with a majority of the public; and the only way you free Members from foreign and financial community bribery and blackmail.
Create the non-profit educational Trump Channel (http://phibetaiota.net/2016/12/robert-steele-throw-the-press-out-of-the-white-house-create-the-presidential-media-open-source-intelligence-center-trump-channel/) backed up by an Open Source Agency (http://robertdavidsteele.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/D3C-Presidential-Innovation-Memorandum-3.3.docx). Clear the existing press area in the White House, turn that into Trump Studios, and offer a daily fireside chat as well as short daily briefs by your principals in turn on each threat, each policy, each budget – bypass the fake news media, educate the public, and use PollMole (http://www.pollmole.vote/) to see what 200 million think on a Presidential Dashboard.
Unleash the FBI, with NSA support, against the Deep State. You may have already started this, the Republican and Democratic Party pedophiles are the Achilles heel. We can isolate 500 other embedded traitors (financial, religious, ideological) in 90 days.



There are four things you can do to be the greatest President in modern history.




Diversify your senior team – adding Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich – and Ralph Nader and Jesse Ventura in some capacity – will strangle the extreme left and open up the middle. Take your diversified team on the road – 50 states in 30 days.
Organize a Grand Strategy Summit, televised for public consumption – the ultimate reality show. The last one was done in 1953 by Ike Eisenhower. Address all high level threats and all Cabinet policy domains in context of achieving a balanced budget.
Organize a Revenue Summit, televised for public consumption, in which you invite Dr. Edgar Feige of Wisconsin to brief his idea of an Automated Payment Transaction Tax (http://bigbatusa.org/balanced-budget/a-tax-revolution/) that allows you to eliminate all other taxes, especially income taxes. This fractional tax puts the tiny burden where it should be: on Wall Street instead of Main Street. Allow the public to scrutinize the alternatives you have been considering. You will be a hero.
Invite every citizen in debt to sign a Debt Renunciation Pledge (http://phibetaiota.net/2016/09/debt-renunciation-as-a-presidential-race-card/) on a non-profit website, authorizing you to negotiate, on their behalf, a reduction of the three trillion dollars in student debt, elderly medical debt, and small business and family credit card debt. This will connect you to 150 million or more citizens and empower you against Wall Street.



Background: Former CIA Spy Has A Surprising Message For Trump (http://themindunleashed.com/2016/12/former-cia-spy-surprising-christmas-message-trump.html)
Talk To: Robert David Steele (http://robertdavidsteele.com)
PRINTABLE DOC (1 Page): MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT (http://phibetaiota.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MEMORANDUM-FOR-THE-PRESIDENT-6.docx)
UPDATE: 30 minute audio with Dr. Dave Janda, recorded Sunday, 12 February 2017 (http://www.davejanda.com/guests/robert-david-steele/sunday-february-12-2017).

_______________________________________

Phi Beta Iota: The primary thrust of the Earth Intelligence Network (EIN) for the past several years has been a combination of electoral reform, intelligence reform, and governance reform. The above letter by EIN Chief Enabling Officer (CeO) Robert Steele, who serves without salary, is intended to support the existing legitimate President of the United States of America with strategic perspectives not now available to the President from those who surround him and filter information to favor their own individual agendas.

All of these ideas were offered to Bernie Sanders (eight times), Martin O’Malley, Michael Bloomberg, and John Kasich. Donald Trump, “the great disruptor,” won against all odds, and is the only person in the US Government (USG) who could conceivably lead a national consensus toward these needed reforms. We pray for his survival and his success. He is literally our only hope at this time — if combined with an earnest outreach program across all 50 states, with a diversified senior team, there is every reason to believe that these reforms are achievable, and that these reforms will Make America Great Again.

There is nothing wrong with America the Beautiful that cannot be fixed, and fixed quick, by restoring the Constitution (including an end to “presidential wars” not authorized by Congress) and by restoring integrity to every aspect of our electoral, intelligence, and governance systems.

See Especially:

Robert Steele with Joseph Hagmann (YouTube 50:17): A Message to Donald Trump (http://phibetaiota.net/2017/02/robert-steele-with-joseph-hagmann-youtube-5017-a-message-to-donald-trump/)
Robert Steele: Donald Trump, The Accidental President — Under Siege! A Soft Coup Rages within a Closed Rigged System… (http://phibetaiota.net/2016/11/robert-steele-the-accidental-president-will-he-resign-the-closed-system-is-still-rigged-and-likely-to-remain-so/)
Robert Steele: RIGGED – Twelve Ways the Two-Party Tyranny Rigs the US Electoral System to Block Out Independents, Small Parties, and 70% of the Eligible Voters (http://phibetaiota.net/2016/10/robert-steele-rigged-twelve-ways-the-two-party-tyranny-rigs-the-us-electoral-system-to-block-out-independents-small-parties-and-70-of-the-eligible-voters/)
See Also:

Preibus @ Phi Beta Iota (http://phibetaiota.net/?s=Preibus)
Trump @ Phi Beta Iota (http://phibetaiota.net/?s=Trump)

SHORT URL: http://tinyurl.com/Memo4Trump (http://tinyurl.com/Memo4Trump)

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[Helene West]

i like listening to Steele but am also taking him with some grains of salt like everything else going on. What puzzled me in his bullet points above particularly is this one:
"...*Diversify your senior team – adding Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich – and Ralph Nader and Jesse Ventura in some capacity – will strangle the extreme left and open up the middle. Take your diversified team on the road – 50 states in 30 days."

Didn't Dennis Kucinich seem to hate trump?? Ralph Nader is 82 years old! And Jesse, well his specials on underground tunnels and the Denver Airport, etc are entertaining but there is something too progressive/celebrity and diva-like about him that I just can't see him being loyal to trump or much of a hard worker, he'll start passive-aggressive undermining trump and make things about him, IMHO. Just thought in the batch of mostly good ideas this was a weird one that gives me pause.

What I did really like was the vid hosted by Bill Still presenting Hannity talking to Joe DeGenova, obviously a big name lawyer in Washington DC who says the leaks are definitely an attempt at Coup d'etat and if the Attorney Gen puts together a Grand Jury they will find the leaker. Of everything going on now to me that is the most important thing, find that treasonous dog leaker and life imprisonment. Grand Jury!!!

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Steele also contradicts Pieczenik on the state of the two-party system. Steele says that the Republican party is collapsing. In reality Republicans now control more positions in state and federal government than any other time in modern history, and this is a widely-recognized fact that even the Democrats acknowledge. Absent pedophilia busts that will equally hurt the Democratic party, I have no idea what he is talking about on that one.

Pieczenik, on the other hand, says that the Democratic party has been progressively eviscerated since 2008, which actually fits with all of the very obvious data from elections and who is now sitting in political positions. Democrats have been steadily losing seats in state and federal government since 2008 and are now outnumbered in state legislatures as well as the US House and Senate, and soon to be Supreme Court. These are all easily verifiable public facts.

Steele has said some other things that I find very questionable, but Alex Jones trusts him and says he has known Steele for over 10 years, and from what I've learned of body language and the inimitable "singing" that the body does when telling the truth, he does seem to be saying what he believes to be the truth. I just can't reconcile some of the things he says with all other available information, including what other insiders are saying.

Everybody is their own person though, even in intelligence. If they all thought and felt the same things they'd be robots instead of human beings. I say that in spite of the saying "once CIA, always CIA."

[turiya]

i like listening to Steele but am also taking him with some grains of salt like everything else going on. What puzzled me in his bullet points above particularly is this one:
"...*Diversify your senior team – adding Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich – and Ralph Nader and Jesse Ventura in some capacity – will strangle the extreme left and open up the middle. Take your diversified team on the road – 50 states in 30 days."

Didn't Dennis Kucinich seem to hate trump?? Ralph Nader is 82 years old! And Jesse, well his specials on underground tunnels and the Denver Airport, etc are entertaining but there is something too progressive/celebrity and diva-like about him that I just can't see him being loyal to trump or much of a hard worker, he'll start passive-aggressive undermining trump and make things about him, IMHO. Just thought in the batch of mostly good ideas this was a weird one that gives me pause.

What I did really like was the vid hosted by Bill Still presenting Hannity talking to Joe DeGenova, obviously a big name lawyer in Washington DC who says the leaks are definitely an attempt at Coup d'etat and if the Attorney Gen puts together a Grand Jury they will find the leaker. Of everything going on now to me that is the most important thing, find that treasonous dog leaker and life imprisonment. Grand Jury!!!

Yeah, my initial feeling about Steele was he seemed a bit too much into himself - agressive, belligerent type - when I first heard him on the Truth Jihad Radio w/ Kevin Barrett... I did not like how he came off - demanded to not be interrupted by Kevin asking questions - in that particular interview, doesn't seem to mind Alex Jones' interruptions - too much of himself, its gotten into his physical appearance from what I now see of him.

From what Robert David Steele says, that treasonous dog you speak of looks to be the former CIA John Brennan, although seems he would be working for that top, top treasonous dog Dick Cheney... amazing he has not kicked the bucket as of yet!

I agree with your sentiments regarding Ralph Nader (maybe getting a bit feeble-minded). Also Jesse Ventura has always had a swelled ego about himself, may end up in conflict with Trump's direction.

Kucinich, on the otherhand, has always been pretty moderate - well situated away from the extremes of the Left. From what he's said recently, I think he would serve Trump well, imo.

[Helene West]

For me a maybe on Kucinich but no on nader and ventura.

I have to sneak peaks on the forum at work and don't have time always to mull things over. Now it is hitting me of the importance of these leaks. If the Pres can't make a secure phone call, how can he rule???
Now I'm getting why the dems are insisting on diverting attention to Russia hacks, it's taking away from the real issue of the leaks. At first I thought it was just part of their hysterics but no, it's more sinister.
I'm also understanding why Eram in some posts above said he wasn't as impressed with trump's conference yesterday as I was. In retrospect, I'm now rerunning it and he was too calm in speaking to the press about the leaks. I think I was just relieved that he didn't appear frazzled or burnt out. He had said to them, and I'm paraphrasing, that his calls to mexico and australia were not really heavy duty but he calmly asked the press what if they were classified info that were security risks to the country - he asked them 'would you publish those also'?? he had said it kind of calm and conversational so I overlooked it at the time. Now I feel he should have been hammering them on their duplicity with the treasonous leaker and not going on about Fake News.

Forgive this gross aside, but you mention how is Dick Cheney, who has had 5 heart attacks (!) still kicking. He has always given me the creeps and makes me wonder if he could be one of those for whom so many of our young are abducted and murdered, benefiting from their cells, blood or however the heck the super rich use the young for to keep themselves alive.

But back to the leaks - I had around 24 hrs of a lessening of anxiety after listening to the press conference but now it's back up there and so is my anger....

[BMJ]

If however they continue to make pronouncements, like the following:
That Trump is crazy - which he is not... That Trump is mad - which he is not. And this is made by psychologists, then I strongly recommend that Trump & the Administration file suit against the American Psychiatric... against the American Psychological Association... and against every physician who has positively stated that on TV, including the comedians - Bill Maher, Steve Colbert, Jon Stewart or anyone else that makes that pronouncement - that is beyond the Freedom of Speech. That has to do with slander of the personality... Its also medical malpractice. When I saw a group of psychologists - 30 of them, none of whom I knew - state categorically that Trump had mental illness, that was grounds for debarring & delegitimizing their academic credentials.

Also smells like a case of both professional negligence and defamation by the psychologists. And defamation by the comedians it could all turn into a tide little income stream for "The Don". Which he would probably donate to charity. :cash: :sun:

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Ventura has passion but his political philosophy lately has been terrible. Just check out his recent interviews with Alex. He is against the wall and apparently has no conception of the immigration problem the US is facing. The fact that he now lives in Mexico may have something to do with that, but the men and women he sees in Mexico must not be the drug cartels, human traffickers and other organized crime coming across the border into the US. He also seems to me to be half socialist, and Marxist philosophies are exactly what globalists like Soros push.

[BMJ]

The extreme polarization that is in evidence now on the planet is a sure sign that the agenda of the elites is working, and it's working on this forum as well, especially re Trump.

My own opinion on that is that the division, and I respect your opinion Onawah, is caused by one group of people whom see and are coming to terms with the truth.

Versus those whom have had their paradigm questioned and are finding it difficult to come to terms with the truth about such things as:
MSM being fake;
Powerful people abusing their office, position and public trust;
Prominent and powerful people being involved in pedo/satanic stuff. etc

This second group is lashing out in part in frustration because what they hold as true is no longer so and they are not coping.

[Eram]

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:

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[onawah]

It's not just two groups; the divisions are many and the fractures go deep because they've been forming and growing for a long time, fed by a number of causes.
I keep thinking that this might be when whoever wrote the script for The Day the Earth Stood Still ( or whoever or whatever planted that idea in the script writer's mind) might have foreseen as the perfect time for something like that to happen to awaken planetary consciousness in humanity.
Not a false flag event like Ronald Reagan was no doubt used by the controller to ready us for, but a real one (not that I think an AI operated weapon of mass destruction such as was presented in the movie0 is the answer to world peace...)
The classic 1951 version I saw as a kid had a much stronger impact on me than the 2008 version with Keanu Reeves, or many other remakes taken from those simpler times.
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The extreme polarization that is in evidence now on the planet is a sure sign that the agenda of the elites is working, and it's working on this forum as well, especially re Trump.

My own opinion on that is that the division, and I respect your opinion Onawah, is caused by one group of people whom see and are coming terms with the truth.

Versus those whom have had their paradigm questioned and are finding it difficult to come to terms with the truth about such things:
MSM being fake;
Powerful people abusing their office, position and public trust;
Prominent and powerful people being involved in pedo/satanic stuff. etc

This second group is lashing out in part in frustration because what they hold as true is no longer so and they are not coping.

[onawah]

Good grief! How can anyone think that returning to coal burning (not to mention more fracking) is going to be good for anything at all?

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:

[Tinman]

No.

Avalon is not a place where voices that you do not wish to hear are censored and silenced. It is a forum of discussion and dissenting opinions.

Threads on Avalon are not private playgrounds that you personally moderate and control.

If you just want an echo chamber where everyone repeats your own opinion back to you, I am sorry but I cannot help you.

Amen my brother. The Trump Kool-Aid drinkers here continue to baffle me. And this coming from someone who didn't want Hillary in office either, but. I refuse to stop calling out this spoiled brat's lies, just as I would call out anyone's provable lies!

[BMJ]

The Trump Kool-Aid drinkers here continue to baffle me. And this coming from someone who didn't want Hillary in office either, but. I refuse to stop calling out this spoiled brat's lies, just as I would call out anyone's provable lies!

Tinman can you please enlighten the members whom frequent this thread with your provable lies backed by links to credible sources, that will verify:
- we the members are drinking Trump Kool-Aid;
- that Trump is a brat; and
- Trump is a liar.

Thank you. :ROFL:

Edit, if you have evidence from any credible sources that can verify that Trump is a:
- racist; &
- sexist.
This would also facilitate a better undertanding of your perspective on Trump and allow us to make a more informed decision as to whom Trump is.

Thank you.

An aside, it must be getting lonely and boring on "The Trump Is Not the Answer" thread. :facepalm:

[Chester]

from this source (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2017/02/kucinich_intelligence_leaks_point_to_possible_trap_set_by_washington_post)


Former Ohio U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich agreed with President Trump’s assessment yesterday that intelligence leaks to the media are more worrisome than the sudden resignation of now former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

Kucinich said he feared the intelligence community is trying to influence foreign policy during an appearance yesterday on Boston Herald Radio’s “Adriana Cohen Show.”

“When you look at the way the Flynn episode unfolded it’s very clear that his communications were taped, they were transcribed, they were given to the media with specific timing involved,” Kucinich said. “This was clearly a trap that was set for him.”

Kucinich went on to say that The Washington Post — the paper that first published the story on Flynn — may have gained the intelligence through ties its owner, Jeff Bezos, forged while working as CEO of Amazon. The online retailer, he noted, sealed a multimillion-dollar cloud computing contract with the CIA around the same time he bought the Post.

“I have a problem with The Washington Post having as a business partner the Central Intelligence Agency,” Kucinich said. “I’m not charging collusion by any means — but I’m saying this presents some questions that may relate to ethics and also national security.”

Kucinich stressed that there is no evidence suggesting Trump played a part in Russia’s attempt to hack the election.

“We want to know who is really running the United States of America and we sure don’t want it to be a cadre of intelligence officials who are trying to use headlines and innuendo to upend a new administration,” he said.

For me, the saddest thing of all about the above is knowing that there are folks... just regular everyday folks who, in some cases, because the result of what Kucinich strongly suggests happened - “This was clearly a trap that was set for him.”... that this result created the scenario where Michael Flynn ended up making his mistake of not being honest with the Vice President, Mike Pence... which in turn achieved the likely larger goal of, once again, bolstering some of the public's already negative view of President Trump... there are so many of these regular folks who simply don't have the time to spend achieving an "actual clue" as to what is "actually" going on with their government, how their government's actions effect not just the US, but the world... folks who have yet to understand the immense impact the shadow government, "deep state" has upon everyone's lives... who sit back and cheer on their couch the "Flynn is out! Trump stopped again."

Isn't it sad that some of those who might read this post might actually be saying to themselves, "I am glad that if these intel human resources and these journalists are doing this, that they are in fact doing this!" I would make odds pretty high some actually are glad despite that if so, laws are being broken and basic human rights are being violated. See, if it harms Trump (in their eyes) then anything goes and in fact, is cheered.

What is really sad is knowing there are quite a few folks out there like this who, while operating almost fully blind, allow themselves to be whipped up into furies and actually root for folks like Charles Blow when they see something like this -

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... something like the above that when I saw it, I felt bad for him... I felt bad that he has reached this state of being that he would actually react as he did in the above 1 minute video...

I feel sad knowing that the folks I want to believe are more aware... not just a little more aware, maybe even much more aware... are compelled to use the lowest forms of verbal and written (and in some cases destructive action as...) communication of their desire that others join them in experiencing DTS (Donald Trump Syndrome... what has become an actual recognized psychological condition)...

I am even more sad that some of the folks who participate in this forum... folks who otherwise show so much wisdom... when it comes to Trump, dip so clearly below the line... clearly below acceptability... clearly out of character from the persona they had, in some cases for years, previously demonstrated on this forum.

I am further sad to have experienced what happened to someone (a member no less) who has spent almost a year (and hours upon hours of work and effort) putting together a thread that had such an obvious, well produced, well presented consciousness stream such as Turiya had done with his "Transition into Trump" thread... and almost as if a switch were turned on the day Trump won (go look at that thread if you don't believe me) we who appreciated his thread had to experience his thread become diluted down so heavily by so many obviously outside of the thread theme's direction "posts"... posts so loaded down with mostly mainstream videos barely having anything to do with the thread's established consciousness stream - whether for or against where in cases that might be against were there rarely any details that showed any relationship to the thread's theme...

...just dilution... but massive... load times for one page on my 200 meg connection took over a minute sometimes, imagine how that killed viewership for those who have much slower connections??... and if the efforts could be called "dissenting views" I only experienced it all as pure distraction which created a such a "thread flow break" that the actual end result was (and is) thread derailment... derailment of that thread's energy and destroyed the thread.

And a few weeks ago that someone, Turiya, took the high road as best as any single individual could... especially when one considers the occasional ganging up his threads have experienced... and now (again) had to have assistance from staff to stop what was about to start once again... something I, as a member, am very sad had to even happen as I just somehow expect veteran members here to have a little court awareness and respect... but then now, Turiya has to, once again, go through this experience here in the only thread of its kind on this forum... a thread with a true, very apparent, well developed and well presented consciousness stream...

... and folks who I thought were actually a bit more awake, a bit more aware... sadly once again prove they cannot show a little court awareness, cannot show understanding for this...

...cannot show basic decency and respect.

Its a shame.

Just one thread cannot achieve this... Those who may wish to post opinions that are nothing but opinions, have no facts to back their opinions... just use the lowest forms of "still passable" (I guess) opinion making cannot see the decency and respect in doing so by starting their own thread or going to threads which might already have established that sort of theme.

Its just a terrible shame.

So here's my opinion -


[name withheld], you are right in what you recently wrote to me in relation to humanity on Earth as it is today.

[Chester]

Just in case some of you missed it (probably by paying attention to MSM)

EXCLUSIVE: President Trump has done more for illegal immigrant children in two weeks than Obama did in two years (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4227354/Trump-immigrant-children-Obama.html)

Lawyer Matthew Kolken said that a memorandum issued after Trump took office ended the Obama-era practice of prioritizing children for deportation
Kolken said that he thought that the President 'has a heart' when it comes to children who cross the border from Mexico on their own
Obama deported more people than any other President, earning him the nickname 'Deporter in Chief' among critics
2.5 million people were kicked out of the country between 2009 and 2015 during the Obama Presidency
Kolken said that under Trump children 'are being put to the back of the line for scheduling of cases'
'This means it could be a long time before they have to have a hearing before a judge,' he added



President Trump has done more for illegal immigrant children in two weeks than President Obama did in two years, a prominent immigration lawyer has claimed.

Matthew Kolken said that a Justice Department memorandum issued after Trump took office ended theObama-era practice of prioritizing unaccompanied children for deportation.

Kolken said that he thought that the President 'has a heart' when it comes to children who cross the border from Mexico on their own.

Kolken called for a reexamination of President Obama's record on immigration and said that Democrats were guilty of 'unbridled hypocrisy' for criticizing President Trump when his predecessor was so harsh on migrants.

Despite remaining popular among Latinos, President Obama deported more people than any other president, earning him the nickname 'Deporter in Chief' among critics and activists.

According to government data some 2.5 million people were kicked out of the country between 2009 and 2015 during the Obama Presidency.

One of the most controversial programs was a memorandum from March 2015 which prioritized the fast-tracking of cases for children and families which became known as the 'rocket docket'.

According to a report from Syracuse University, in New York, nearly 40,000 immigration cases used this system and 43 per cent were children who did not have access to a lawyer.

On January 31st after Trump became the president, that was changed.

The memorandum was signed off by MaryBeth Keller, the chief immigration judge for the Executive Office for Immigration Review, and said that unaccompanied children are 'no longer the highest docketing and processing priority'.

Kolken, an immigration lawyer and the managing partner of Kolken & Kolken, located in Buffalo, New York, said that the memorandum meant that children 'are being put to the back of the line for scheduling of cases'.

He told DailyMail.com: 'This means that it could be quite a long time before they have to have a hearing before a judge.

'Maybe the President has a heart when it comes to unaccompanied children. There's no other explanation'.

He added: 'President Trump in two weeks has already done more for unaccompanied refugee children than Obama did in two years'.

Kolken said Obama's prioritization of unaccompanied children for deportation was 'easily the most inhumane immigration law in the last 20 years'.

He said: 'Democrats who are horrified (at Trump) could allow President Obama to act in the most unlawful way out of any president I have seen in my lifetime'.

Trump has made immigration a key theme of his Presidency and has promised to build a wall on the border with Mexico, which the Mexicans will pay for.

But of course, you will hardly ever know about something like this... something that demonstrates the possibility that President Trump has far more heart than a plethora of folks could possibly bring themselves to imagine...

Unless, of course, you might stumble upon this thread and actually read a post like this.

And of course, who could possibly trust someone like Mathew Kolken to actually have a clue what he's talking about - I mean surely he has to be a plant, a fake... probably someone created by the Russians or "the Uber Wealthy Cabinet members"...

http://www.kolkenandkolken.com/?src=gendocs&ref=Our_Immigration_services

[turiya]

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http://www.micahmorrison.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Micahs-Masthead-680x338.jpg

The Flynn Edge Of The Wedge (http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/flynn-edge-wedge/)

FEBRUARY 15, 2017

http://feeds.thetimes.co.uk/web/imageserver/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F0499c270-ad6c-11e6-bf75-8dcf2cf16a22.jpg?crop=3080,1733,132,41&resize=600
So, National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has become the first casualty of the Russian connection. Not counting Paul Manafort and Carter Page, thrown off the Trump Train during the presidential campaign. Not counting two Russian intelligence agents arrested for treason (http://www.rferl.org/a/russia-fsb-agent-arrested-u-s-election-hacking/28261397.html), who may or may not have been involved in hacking the U.S. election, who may or may not have been assisting the CIA. Not counting Christopher Steele, the former MI-6 agent and author of the notorious Russian dossier (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html), currently in hiding.

So call Mike Flynn the first high-level casualty of the Russian connection. He’s likely the thin edge of the wedge. His Monday night resignation—ostensibly for misleading the vice president about conversations he had with a Russian official before Mr. Trump took office—has revved up the investigative axis in Washington. What did Mr. Trump and his aides know and when did they know it? Did Mike Flynn just take a bullet for the president?

Before the circus moves on from the spectacle of Flynn fallen in the arena, it’s worth noting that he served his country with honor and distinction for thirty-three years in the United States Army, rising to the rank of lieutenant general. He led dangerous intelligence missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Later, apparently the same qualities that made him a successful battlefield intelligence leader got him in trouble as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

In the wake of the Flynn resignation, Democrats are calling for an “independent investigation” of the Russian connection. What they mean by that is not entirely clear, probably a specially charted commission (https://www.cardin.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/senators-cardin-feinstein-leahy-carper-klobuchar-introduce-legislation-to-create-independent-nonpartisan-commission-to-investigate-russian-interference-in-election), a special select committee or a special prosecutor. In any case, none of that is going to happen, at least not anytime soon.

First, the institutional probes will play out. The FBI, CIA, NSA and Treasury are up to something (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html), according to the New York Times—an inter-agency task force, a “working group,” whatever. President Trump owns the executive branch for the moment and you can be sure this FBI-led effort is under tremendous pressure. John Schindler reports (http://observer.com/2017/02/donald-trump-administration-mike-flynn-russian-embassy/) that the intelligence community is “starting to push back” against the president, a move with enormous implications.

In Congress, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Intelligence Committee have opened broad investigations (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/top-senate-republican-blunt-says-congress-should-probe-flynn-situation/2017/02/14/8abbcad4-f2d5-11e6-a9b0-ecee7ce475fc_story.html?utm_term=.a7b125cb6ea5). The Senate Armed Services Committee, led by John McCain, will take a run at cyber-threats (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russian-hacking-senate-investigation-20170125-story.html) and Russia, before handing off the matter to a new cyber-security subcommittee. Elsewhere, major media groups are tasking reporting teams on the issue and the internet is alive with freelancers and interested parties—cue the usual carnival of conspiracy theories, dangerous craziness and occasional wisdom.

The essential investigative question for all these inquiries is the same. How deep? How deep into the U.S. electoral system did Moscow penetrate? And how deep is the Kremlin into Donald Trump?

Getting answers won’t be easy. Kremlin-linked hacking activities and related intelligence activities are a wilderness of mirrors. Mr. Trump has a long history of dealings in Russia and with Russians, and so far has resisted detailed disclosure. Cynics will say that Jim Comey will roll over one more time for Team Trump, but I don’t buy that. The inter-agency investigation led by the FBI, in my view, is the one to watch.

For the media and the internet gang, the temptation to chase rabbits down holes will be irresistible. The Trump Administration has decided to make the media the enemy, so expect relentless attacks on “fake news” and the like. But as the Flynn episode demonstrates, the media have an ally in the U.S. intelligence community. If you’re keeping score at home, Mr. Flynn’s resignation was forced not so much by his speaking with the Russians, but by public disclosure of those conversations, most likely through IC leaks. Look for the media and leaks to drive story. More evidence of that came last night with a New York Times disclosure that Trump associates “had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials” in 2016. President Trump fired back this morning, tweeting that the “real scandal” was the leaking of intelligence information.

Congress will struggle with its investigations, mainly because it’s a Republican-led institution investigating a Republican president. The institutional pressures to back off will be intense. The executive branch will slow-roll document production and balk at providing witnesses. Congressional subpoenas are basically useless and anyway the Republicans won’t go there. The minority Democrats have limited options. Kicking and screaming only gets you so far.

Congressional investigations often are tripped up by their dual mandate. They’re supposed to get to the bottom of something—Benghazi, Fast & Furious, Lois Lerner and the IRS, Whitewater, Iran-Contra, etc.—but they also have a public information role. Tell us what happened. The most successful congressional investigations have focused on telling the story. Based on what we already know—a tumultuous election, foreign intelligence hacking, sensational charges and presidential politics—the Russian connection reports should read like thrillers.

In the public information role, Congress should be hearing from Messrs. Flynn, Manafort and Page, along with top Trump aides Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, on what they knew about the Russian connection and when they knew it. And what, if anything, they told Mr. Trump. As I noted (http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/the-russian-connection/) in December, unusual Russia-connected episodes unfolded through the presidential campaign and mark Mr. Trump’s business history. Mr. Trump’s tax records are a Rosetta Stone to the Russian connection, at least as it relates to the president’s financial ties to the country. IRS Commissioner John Koskinen would handle any congressional directive to produce the records for confidential intelligence committee reviews. Or not. Mr. Koskinen cut a private-sector business deal with Mr. Trump back in 1975 and they have been friends (http://www.taxanalysts.org/content/koskinens-future-irs-not-broached-transition-team) ever since.


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Micah Morrison is chief investigative reporter for Judicial Watch. Follow him on Twitter @micah_morrison. Tips: mmorrison@judicialwatch.org (mmorrison@judicialwatch.org)
Investigative Bulletin is published weekly by Judicial Watch. Reprints and media inquiries: jfarrell@judicialwatch.org.

Micah Morrison's Investigative Bulletin (http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/flynn-edge-wedge/)

[Helene West]

Good grief! How can anyone think that returning to coal burning (not to mention more fracking) is going to be good for anything at all?

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:


I have 2 siblings unemployed. I have a mediocre paying job yet I'm trying to keep them afloat and I won't be able to much longer. Caring about the environment (whether real caring or righteous pseudo/political caring) is a luxury for people who are not looking at the abyss of homelessness.
Only a job has meaning to poor people. That is the rock bottom line. When you have food in your stomach and a roof over your head consistently, and you're far from the bad neighborhood of losing your kids, apartments, homes, cars, etc., then you can worry about things like the environment.

[Helene West]

The Trump Kool-Aid drinkers here continue to baffle me. And this coming from someone who didn't want Hillary in office either, but. I refuse to stop calling out this spoiled brat's lies, just as I would call out anyone's provable lies!

Tinman can you please enlighten the members whom frequent this thread with your provable lies backed by links to credible sources, that will verify:
- we the members are drinking Trump Kool-Aid;
- that Trump is a brat; and
- Trump is a liar.

Thank you. :ROFL:

An aside, it must be getting lonely and boring on "The Trump Is Not the Answer" thread. :facepalm:

Hey BMJ
Can u add to your list to him to prove trump is a racist also? I've asked people for specifics but can't get specifics, only the same tired record over and over, he's a racist, sexist, blah, blah...
What COWARDS these people are. Eight years of obama catering to Wall Street, catering to the intelligence community allowing them to amass blackmail portfolios on everyone especially politicians and businessmen with their huge data collection facilities and software, catering to the neocons as they droned thousands of innocents - not a peep in 8 full years from the trump hating malice crowd. They wouldn't say anything cause they were afraid of being called racist if they were white or traitors if they were black. Now that there is a white guy it's psychological OVERCOMPENSATION TIME for the cowardice that they didn't want to face about themselves. They feel safe now. From cowardice to self-righteousness!... As an old commercial used to sing-song, "Oh, what a relief it is!"...

[BMJ]

Hey BMJ
Can u add to your list to him to prove trump is a racist also? I've asked people for specifics but can't get specifics, only the same tired record over and over, he's a racist, sexist, blah, blah...

Hi Helene,
I have updated my post to reflect your valid concerns about Trump, hopefully we will receive a prompt fact verifiable response from Tinman. :sun:

Kind Regards BMJ

[AutumnW]

Good grief! How can anyone think that returning to coal burning (not to mention more fracking) is going to be good for anything at all?

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:


I have 2 siblings unemployed. I have a mediocre paying job yet I'm trying to keep them afloat and I won't be able to much longer. Caring about the environment (whether real caring or righteous pseudo/political caring) is a luxury for people who are not looking at the abyss of homelessness.
Only a job has meaning to poor people. That is the rock bottom line. When you have food in your stomach and a roof over your head consistently, and you're far from the bad neighborhood of losing your kids, apartments, homes, cars, etc., then you can worry about things like the environment.

Helene,
What you describe is so bleak and so true. When people are in dire straits they are going to be more concerned with feeding themselves than they are about a rare toad on the endangered species list.

Environmental concerns are butting right up against basic human survival issues, even among those who would otherwise prioritize the environment. How can anybody criticize those who are merely trying to live? I understand what Onawah is saying here but my first concerns are for humanity.

I hope things improve for you and your siblings, my thoughts are with you.

[turiya]

Hey KiwiElf...


http://blog-imgs-97.fc2.com/v/a/c/vacsgela/thDLBH3ZKZ.jpg

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Angry Protesters Demand That Trump "STOP Attacking Women, Muslims, Immigrants, LGBTQ+, Journalists..." (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/angry-protesters-demand-trump-stop-attacking-women-muslims-immigrants-lgbtq-journali)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/2017.02.17%20-%20Trump%20Protest.JPG (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/angry-protesters-demand-trump-stop-attacking-women-muslims-immigrants-lgbtq-journali)
STOP the authoritarian assault on our fundamental, constitutional rights, the very principles that have truly made America great; STOP attacking and victimizing women, Muslims, immigrants, racial and ethnic groups, the LGBTQ+ community, working families, journalists, and all who offer criticisms of the Administration’s policies including the U.S. judicial branch;

Feb 18, 2017 8:00 AM

[turiya]

Jay Sekulow: Obama Should Be "Held Accountable" For The "Soft Coup" Against Trump (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/jay-sekulow-obama-should-be-held-accountable-soft-coup-attempt-against-trump)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/sekulow.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/jay-sekulow-obama-should-be-held-accountable-soft-coup-attempt-against-trump)
"This change that the president put in place, signed off by the way by James Clapper on December 15, 2016, signed off by Loretta Lynch the Attorney General January 3, 2017, they decide that now 16 agencies can get the raw data and what that does is almost creates a shadow government."

Feb 18, 2017 11:15 AM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLfUXH20Od8____________Late Add____________

Obama is the Source of the Coup (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/19/obama-is-the-source-of-the-coup/#more-143628)
Guest Post by Martin Armstrong (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/obama-is-the-source-of-the-coup/)
Feb 19, 2017

https://armstrongmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/obama-trump-meeting.jpg (https://armstrongmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/obama-trump-meeting.jpg)


The Obama administration intentionally set the stage knowing what they were doing was designed to undermine and cripple the Trump Administration. This appears to me to be an intentional plot by Obama to allow his supporters within the intelligence community to topple Trump if they can. Obama waited until he had just 17 days left in office to sign an executive order to expand the power of the National Security Agency (NSA) allowing it to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies BEFORE any application of top secret or privacy protection would be attached.

Obama never did this while he was in office. Whenever a politician does something like this, there is ALWAYS a hidden agenda. This Obama executive order changed everything with regard to national security that was put in place by an executive order dating back to Ronald Reagan. Obama opened the flood gates and this I personally believe was a treasonous act showing the Democrats adopted a strategy to under,mine Trump from the outset and to create massive civil unrest.

Trump MUST reinstate the national security procedures that have been in place since Ronald Reagan and fire everyone in intelligence appointed by Obama. Clean the swamp must start right there and NOW! Obama knew he would set up a shadow government and refuse to leave Washington. He seems to be working harder now while as President he may have played golf more than any other president.

https://armstrongmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Obama-Tweet-2-17-2017.jpg (https://twitter.com/BarackObama?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email&iid=f074da9d60454cb8b9ebefa04034dd85&uid=331287203&nid=244+272699405)

Proof that Obama is behind the civil unrest is the fact he has taken to Twitter. He states boldly to believe in that the people can bring about change through their own action. He is implying to rise up and create civil unrest on a massive scale.

Obama has been behind this entire affair of creating civil unrest and I believe is deliberately undermining national security with his moles strategically placed within the intelligence community to undermine the government. That is unquestionable TREASON and the press will only attack Trump and never defend the country. When Obama won, you did not see the other 46% set fires and try to bring down the government. The left always demands it is their way or no way. This is why we will move into civil war in the years ahead. Independents just say live and let live – don’t bother me and I will not bother you. Leftists say you can live only as they command – they cannot sleep at night worrying what independents are doing. It’s like the Hunger Games – suppress all freedom is their agenda.

Martin Armstrong (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/obama-is-the-source-of-the-coup/)


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[turiya]

Put Up Or Shut Up: Judicial Watch Sues FBI, NSA, CIA For Flynn Records (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/put-or-shut-judicial-watch-sues-fbi-nsa-cia-flynn-records)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170216_flynn_1.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/put-or-shut-judicial-watch-sues-fbi-nsa-cia-flynn-records)
"We should be treated as adults and allowed to see the actual conversation if it’s going to be made into a story of such huge national importance..."

Feb 17, 2017 4:40 PM





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The unprecedented FBI/DOJ investigation of
Flynn and @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) transition reeks of corruption. @JudicialWatch (https://twitter.com/JudicialWatch) investigating.

12:33 PM - 14 Feb 2017




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Judicial Watch Planning to Sue FBI, NSA, CIA
for Flynn Records

7:00 AM - 18 Feb 2017




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From Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/16/judicial-watch-planning-sue-fbi-nsa-cia-flynn-records/):

“Conservative foundation Judicial Watch is planning to sue several government agencies if they do not hand over records related to the wiretapping of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. The group filed Freedom of Information Act requests for the records weeks ago but are planning to sue by next week for the records if they do not receive anything by then.

Judicial Watch filed the requests with the FBI, NSA, CIA, and Treasury Department, according to the group’s Director of Investigations and Research Chris Farrell.”
Below is a tweet from Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton on the National Security Advisor scandal.

Furthermore: In an article titled “DOJ is also a target of President Trump’s probe into leaks (http://circa.com/politics/doj-also-target-of-president-trumps-call-for-investigations-into-leaks)” by the publication Circa (http://circa.com/), Chris Farrell was quoted saying, “it would be a very narrow universe of persons who would have had access to that classified material. Even the number of persons who would have access should be definable. That sort of communication intelligence, or comment collection activity is very specific. The list of people is narrow.”


Rest assured, Judicial Watch is committed to uncovering the truth and holding those individuals accountable who may have broken the law.

JUDICIAL WATCH (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/in-the-news/judicial-watch-planning-sue-fbi-nsa-cia-flynn-records/?utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=recommended%20news&utm_medium=social)



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.@realDonaldTrump should think about rehiring General Flynn.

7:39 PM - 17 Feb 2017




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[AutumnW]

The extreme polarization that is in evidence now on the planet is a sure sign that the agenda of the elites is working, and it's working on this forum as well, especially re Trump.
Divide and conquer has long been their motto.
I post mostly on the Trump is Not the Answer thread about Trump not because I was ever a fan of Hillary or because I think Trump is the worst POTUS yet, but because I'm not 100% convinced, as Turiya apparently is, that he is a great hero who is going to save the day, though he may have been the only man for the job at this particular time simply because no one else better was running.
Though I still like Bernie, I'm not convinced that he could have done the job without a fortune like Trump's behind him, and most of his followers are still much too naive.
I don't see the Trump is NOT the Answer as a thread for Trump haters, but the best place so far for an unbiased discussion.
(He's NOT the answer to a LOT of problems, which should be obvious to even the biggest Trump lover, but no POTUS ever was or likely ever will be.)
Perhaps a new thread, or a new name for the Not the Answer thread would help to neutralize some of this friction.

I'll start a new thread, sometime today, Onawah and I thank you for your ongoing comments on the, Trump is Not the Answer thread.

It's really important that people on both sides very clearly hear what the other side has to say, without diminishing and deriding them on a public forum. I have found that when you get right down to it, very few people on the right or left conform to the standard stereotypes. Most people are somewhere in the middle.

What would you suggest as a title for the thread?

[turiya]

How about a PM? :gossip:

[KiwiElf]

PIZZAGATE - A Special Report on the Washington, D.C. Pedophilia Scandal
Posted on December 25, 2016 by State of the Nation

Full (detailed and lengthy) Report and sublinks at link below - crossposted on the Pizzagate thread

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=60679

The Cover Is Blown Off The Ongoing Worldwide C.I.A. Black Pedo-Operation

P E D O G A T E
A Global Child Exploitation Crime Syndicate* Pizzagate Represents Only a Single American Franchise Within a Worldwide Child Trafficking Operation Known As Pedogate

PizzaGate Citizen’s Investigation Cyber-conference
State of the Nation

*It should be understood that, wherever the C.I.A. is referred to in this report, Israel’s MOSSAD, the United Kingdom’s MI6, France’s DGSE and Saudi Arabia’s GID are also heavily involved in the same “Global Child Exploitation Crime Syndicate”. There are many other intelligence services around the world which closely monitor the national Pedogates occurring in their respective countries as well.

Special Note:
This important message is meant for members of the Seen.life Pizzagate public group, the VOAT Pizzagate investigation, the former contributors to the Pizzagate sub-reddit, and the many citizen journalists, researchers and investigators dedicated to exposing Pizzagate truth. The following “Special Report” provides a big picture context that is necessary to correctly understand what Pizzagate is really all about. What has been uncovered thus far is certainly HUGE by any standard. However, compared to the global Pedogate crime syndicate, Pizzagate is just one of many similar pedophilia rings that dot the globe. The crucial point is that now that Pizzagate has been blown wide open as a CIA operation, it is time to direct precious time and attention to the many other pedophile scandals around the world. Yes, Pizzagate is the key, but they have cleaned up that particular crime scene so much that further clues will be more difficult to unearth. That was the very purpose of the false flag gunman who showed up at Comet Ping Pong–to provide cover for law enforcement to scour the premises of any evidence that might be found by an on-site investigator. Nevertheless, every journalist ought to be aware that it is Pizzagate that will ultimately take down World Shadow Government that unlawfully controls the US Government and every other Western power.

Full Report at link

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=60679

[Helene West]

Good grief! How can anyone think that returning to coal burning (not to mention more fracking) is going to be good for anything at all?

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:


I have 2 siblings unemployed. I have a mediocre paying job yet I'm trying to keep them afloat and I won't be able to much longer. Caring about the environment (whether real caring or righteous pseudo/political caring) is a luxury for people who are not looking at the abyss of homelessness.
Only a job has meaning to poor people. That is the rock bottom line. When you have food in your stomach and a roof over your head consistently, and you're far from the bad neighborhood of losing your kids, apartments, homes, cars, etc., then you can worry about things like the environment.

Helene,
What you describe is so bleak and so true. When people are in dire straits they are going to be more concerned with feeding themselves than they are about a rare toad on the endangered species list.

Environmental concerns are butting right up against basic human survival issues, even among those who would otherwise prioritize the environment. How can anybody criticize those who are merely trying to live? I understand what Onawah is saying here but my first concerns are for humanity.

I hope things improve for you and your siblings, my thoughts are with you.

Thanks a lot, Autumn, I appreciate it...

[Chester]

Good grief! How can anyone think that returning to coal burning (not to mention more fracking) is going to be good for anything at all?

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:


The "how" is easy...

One investigates the matter and considers it along with all related matters that make up the big picture. Then, when one considers the the openly stated goal of Donald Trump, that the US becomes energy independent such that foreign governments no longer have an ability to leverage the United States' need for energy supplies from unfriendly nations... where energy costs can be brought down such that us little guys actually experience some actual financial relief... such that when a little guy like me considers the many moves Trump is making (and God willing... that congress will make) such that the lives of my terribly struggling children can actually experience a glimmer of hope they won't forever remain in their formerly hopeless trajectory...

...and then one comes back to coal, and one investigates the actual plan with regards to coal... a plan to use the cleanest techniques currently technologically availble for reviving this job providing industry... knowing that there are nations like China who are over 75% dependent on coal and who are far less likley to be forced or compelled to use these cleaner techniques... a nation than gains every unfair advantage it can in shifting economic power into their hands... and all this going on because of people (and a former president) in the US who want the US to participate in and adhere to "the Paris Climate agreement" when now we have an actual high level NOAA Data Science, Climate and satellites consultant - John J. Bates - blowing the whistle (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html) about the "cook data" which has been relentlessly used to push this ridiculous accord when plain ole folks like myself and a few others on the forum here are hip enough to know the actual goal is to implement complete, total control over every single aspect of each of our lives...

...considering all these things that I just shared right out of my head, much less considering the plethora of fact based, experience based data found just on this forum alone that supports the "how"...

...this, onawah, is "how."

And I haven't even touched fracking yet.



On another note: my 22 year old son who woks 60 hours a week to bring home about $900 a week for his wife and two year old daughter (and himself)... whose company stays under the 50 employee limit so as not to have to get Obama care (both a job killing component of Obamacare as well as making it impossible for my son to afford healthcare), had to go to the "free" hospital last night (the one that will take him even with no money and no insurance) because of the following issue -

He got a root canal when he was 15 years old. Sadly, they only extracted three roots. The remaining one became infected and about a year ago he had to have emergency surgery as an infection such as this and the location of the infection creates a danger that the infection could spread to his brain which would disable him at best or kill him. Well, so he has been having off and on ear ache pains on that same side of his dead as this issue... having it off and on for months... always thinking it was just an ear ache and his immune system would deal with it.

Well, its gotten worse so he finally "bit the bullet" and went to the "free hospital" last night around 8 PM. He waited 7 hours and they never even got to him. He was hoping to work today as that essentially represents about $250 in income (as this would be overtime - time and a half) but he just didn't have the energy to go.

Update: he just told me that the "other" hospital is telling him him its just allergies... He doesn't believe it, he knows what he has been dealing with and for how long. He has no extra money to pay for this, he can't afford the $1,000 a month Obamacare (would eat up 1/4th of his whole income) which wouldn't provide him a dime in benefits until he would reach the $6,500 annual deductible... something that maybe benefits him if in fact his brain did get infected and he ended up in the silly "$5K a day" US medical treatment protocol where he would likely be untreatable by that point anyways.

And this is just ONE of dozens of ways regular folk like my son and his young wife and baby have been screwed by this lovely government... a government that hasn't functioned to the real benefit of regular folk who actually try and work, try and make a difference by doing a job that benefits others (my son repairs foundations of houses and buildings) and who try to earn enough to take basic care of their family and who have little or nothing left over for anything other than saving up for the next big negative surprise when they get the next lovely piece of paper in the mail that tells them they better pay this or that or... lawyers or police are the next thing to expect come knocking at their door.

[onawah]

The poor are the ones who are most heavily impacted by toxins.
I have lived at the poverty level all my life, and most of that time as an unemployed disabled person and I have struggled with health issues all my life resulting in large part from toxins in our food, medicine, air, water and environment.
However, I have not allowed poverty to keep me in ignorance about how big business has consistently and unnecessarily sacrificed the health of the public and of the environment for the sake of their own vested interests, or to be blind to the fact that this is not just an issue involving endangered species, humanity is going to be at the top of that endangered list before long if we don't stop trashing and cannibalizing this planet.
In the case of coal burning plants, there are no excuses left for continuing the practice, and there haven't been for some time now.
Sustainable and renewable sources are consistently proving to be far superior, and of course, that's not even counting zero point technologies, and they can provide more and better jobs than coal.
It's a matter of investing in life instead of death, and that gets into much more than economic policy, that gets into very dark Deep State policies like the kind of population control that the one percenters are so intent on.
If you are really unaware of how coal burning affects the poor, here are a couple of good links which will quickly enlighten you if you care to take the time to read.
https://www.edf.org/climate/reports/mercury-alert-cleaning-up-coal-plants
An excerpt from the above:
Coal-fired power plants are the primary source of toxic mercury air emissions in the U.S. Mercury pollution contaminates our land and waters, causing serious human health impacts.

The title says it all: Renewable Energy 'Creates More Jobs Than Fossil Fuels'
http://www.ecowatch.com/renewable-energy-creates-more-jobs-than-fossil-fuels-1881968419.html

In Mercury Alert: Cleaning up Coal Plants for Healthier Lives
In the [PDF] https://www.edf.org/sites/default/files/EDF-mercury-report-27mar2011-revised.pdf
...Environmental Defense Fund identifies the top 25 emitters of mercury from the electric sector.
Key report findings
A large amount of toxic mercury pollution is released from a relatively small number of plants.
These 25 plants alone are responsible for nearly a third of all mercury emissions in the power sector, while providing only eight percent of our electricity.
Twenty of them are located within 50-100 miles of some of the largest metropolitan areas in the country, including Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St. Louis and Austin.


From: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-06/wind-and-solar-are-crushing-fossil-fuels

Meanwhile, fossil fuels have been getting killed by falling prices and, more recently, declining investment. It started with coal—it used to be that lower prices increased demand for fossil fuels, but coal prices apparently can't fall fast enough. Richer OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) countries have been reducing demand for almost a decade. In China, coal power has also flattened. Only developing countries with rapidly expanding energy demands are still adding coal, though at a slowing rate.

From:http://www.psr.org/news-events/press-releases/coal-pollution-damages-human-health.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

Coal Pollution Damages Human Health at Every Stage of Coal Life Cycle, Reports Physicians for Social Responsibility Washington, DC - November 18, 2009 – Physicians for Social Responsibility today released a groundbreaking medical report, "Coal's Assault on Human Health," which takes a new look at the devastating impacts of coal on the human body. By examining the impact of coal pollution on the major organ systems of the human body, the report concludes that coal contributes to four of the top five causes of mortality in the U.S. and is responsible for increasing the incidence of major diseases already affecting large portions of the U.S. population. A copy of the full report can be found at http://www.psr.org/coalreport.

"The findings of this report are clear: while the U.S. relies heavily on coal for its energy needs, the consequences of that reliance for our health are grave," said Alan H. Lockwood, MD FAAN, a principal author of the report and a professor of neurology at the University at Buffalo.

"These stark conclusions leave no room for doubt or delay," says Kristen Welker-Hood, SCD MSN RN, PSR's director of environment and health programs. "The time has come for our nation to establish a health-driven energy policy that replaces our dependence on coal with clean, safe alternatives. Business as usual is extracting a deadly price on our health. Coal is no longer an option."

Also participating in the report's release were the American Lung Association and the American Nurses Association.

Coal combustion releases mercury, particulate matter, nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide, and dozens of other substances known to be hazardous to human health. This report looks at the cumulative harm inflicted by those pollutants on three major body organ systems: the respiratory system, the cardiovascular system, and the nervous system. The report also considers coal's contribution to global warming, and the health implications of global warming.

Viewed in this way, the totality of coal's impact on health becomes clear. Coal pollutants affect all major body organ systems and contribute to four of the five leading causes of mortality in the U.S.: heart disease, cancer, stroke, and chronic lower respiratory diseases.

Respiratory Effects: Air pollutants produced by coal combustion act on the respiratory system, contributing to serious health effects including asthma, lung disease and lung cancer, and adversely affect normal lung development in children.
Cardiovascular Effects: Pollutants produced by coal combustion lead to cardiovascular disease, such as arterial occlusion (artery blockages, leading to heart attacks) and infarct formation (tissue death due to oxygen deprivation, leading to permanent heart damage), as well as cardiac arrhythmias and congestive heart failure. Exposure to chronic air pollution over many years increases cardiovascular mortality.
Nervous System Effects: Studies show a correlation between coal-related air pollutants and stroke. Coal pollutants also act on the nervous system to cause loss of intellectual capacity, primarily through mercury. Researchers estimate that between 317,000 and 631,000 children are born in the U.S. each year with blood mercury levels high enough to reduce IQ scores and cause lifelong loss of intelligence.
Global Warming: Even people who do not develop illnesses from coal pollutants will find their health and wellbeing impacted due to coal's contribution to global warming. The discharge of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere associated with burning coal is a major contributor to global warming and its adverse effects on health and wellbeing worldwide, such as heat stroke, malaria, declining food production, scarce water supplies, social conflict and starvation.
In addition to the impacts from pollutants emitted during coal combustion, the report pinpoints negative health consequences at each step of the coal life cycle. Coal mining leads U.S. industries in fatal injuries and is associated with chronic health problems among miners. In addition to the miners themselves, communities near coal mines may be adversely affected by mining operations due to the effects of blasting, washing, leakage from "slurry ponds," the collapse of abandoned mines, damage done to streams and waterways, and the dispersal of dust from coal trucks during transportation. Slurry injected underground can release arsenic, barium, lead and manganese into nearby wells, contaminating local drinking water supplies. The storage of post-combustion wastes from coal plants also threatens human health. There are 584 coal ash dump sites in the U.S, and toxic residues have migrated into water supplies at dozens of sites. While every stage of the coal life cycle impacts human health, the combustion phase exacts the greatest toll.



Good grief! How can anyone think that returning to coal burning (not to mention more fracking) is going to be good for anything at all?

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:


I have 2 siblings unemployed. I have a mediocre paying job yet I'm trying to keep them afloat and I won't be able to much longer. Caring about the environment (whether real caring or righteous pseudo/political caring) is a luxury for people who are not looking at the abyss of homelessness.
Only a job has meaning to poor people. That is the rock bottom line. When you have food in your stomach and a roof over your head consistently, and you're far from the bad neighborhood of losing your kids, apartments, homes, cars, etc., then you can worry about things like the environment.

[QUOTE=AutumnW;1135132

I'll start a new thread, sometime today, Onawah and I thank you for your ongoing comments on the, Trump is Not the Answer thread. It's really important that people on both sides very clearly hear what the other side has to say, without diminishing and deriding them on a public forum. I have found that when you get right down to it, very few people on the right or left conform to the standard stereotypes. Most people are somewhere in the middle.
What would you suggest as a title for the thread?[/QUOTE]


Perhaps "Finding Middle Ground"?

[Chester]

The extreme polarization that is in evidence now on the planet is a sure sign that the agenda of the elites is working, and it's working on this forum as well, especially re Trump.
Divide and conquer has long been their motto.
I post mostly on the Trump is Not the Answer thread about Trump not because I was ever a fan of Hillary or because I think Trump is the worst POTUS yet, but because I'm not 100% convinced, as Turiya apparently is, that he is a great hero who is going to save the day, though he may have been the only man for the job at this particular time simply because no one else better was running.
Though I still like Bernie, I'm not convinced that he could have done the job without a fortune like Trump's behind him, and most of his followers are still much too naive.
I don't see the Trump is NOT the Answer as a thread for Trump haters, but the best place so far for an unbiased discussion.
(He's NOT the answer to a LOT of problems, which should be obvious to even the biggest Trump lover, but no POTUS ever was or likely ever will be.)
Perhaps a new thread, or a new name for the Not the Answer thread would help to neutralize some of this friction.

Let me share a thought about "polarization."

If there are two people... one who is fed a lie... fed that lie for years and years... and that individual has reached a state where their opinion is that everything about the lie is actually "true"...

and then you have the other who, maybe they might have been swayed by the lie for awhile, but at some point "smelled the rat" and did so enough to actually go and research and dig and question, both without and within as to what may actually be the truth...

...and these two people happen to meet along the road of life, then it just makes sense they are divided... at least with regards to their views (which is quite a big deal).

This example above appears to me to be far more the case. It is not that both parties are polarized... it is more that one party simply let themselves, in whatever way, and to whatever degree they might be responsible, buy into lies where of course, one day, they would find themselves at odds with another who would be knowing far more the actual truth.

I don't buy the finger pointing that allows me to avoid my own personal responsibility for doing everything I can to learn the truth, know the truth and live in such a way that my expression of being is founded by truth for I cannot imagine any other way I could ever be better for anyone else than by being this very expression of far more the truth than the lie.

EDIT: ADDED... apologies, BMJ that I had not yet read your post which you posted previously on this thread.



The extreme polarization that is in evidence now on the planet is a sure sign that the agenda of the elites is working, and it's working on this forum as well, especially re Trump.

My own opinion on that is that the division, and I respect your opinion Onawah, is caused by one group of people whom see and are coming terms with the truth.

Versus those whom have had their paradigm questioned and are finding it difficult to come to terms with the truth about such things as:
MSM being fake;
Powerful people abusing their office, position and public trust;
Prominent and powerful people being involved in pedo/satanic stuff. etc

This second group is lashing out in part in frustration because what they hold as true is no longer so and they are not coping.

[AutumnW]

Sure feel free to PM me anytime, Turiya.

[AutumnW]

Onawah -- good idea. Finding Middle Ground. I will try to frame the opening post in such a way that nobody is offended and everybody feels their core values (often universal and positive) are clearly understood.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Here is a page explaining how Flynn was orchestrating a sting against the leaking intelligence community at least since December, when he made that phone call in the first place:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i56ttIQ2hk4J:www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

It's a Google cache because the original page has already been taken down for some reason.

Flynn knew he was being recorded in December. He's an intel expert, former head of military intelligence. Of course he knew what he was doing.

The Trump administration has been giving out different false stories to insiders and seeing which ones resurface in the media, in order to pinpoint where leaks are occurring. That's why Trump said in his press conference that the leaks are real but the stories are false. When Flynn was fired, it was part of the act and emboldened the media who then "smelled blood in the water," as they say, not realizing that they are all being set up. Not only is leaking classified information a crime, but publishing classified info is a crime. The media is not exempt from this law.

It looks like Trump is building a case to prosecute certain figures in the media who are breaking the law by publishing false info. That's the idea I get from his tone when he tweets that the corporate media is the enemy of the American people.

He just has to be careful how to do with without looking like he's cracking down on freedom of the press, which of course does not include the freedom of publishing classified info. But the press is who reports the story so they would tell it in their own completely false way no doubt.

[KiwiElf]

Here is a page explaining how Flynn was orchestrating a sting against the leaking intelligence community at least since December, when he made that phone call in the first place:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i56ttIQ2hk4J:www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

It's a Google cache because the original page has already been taken down for some reason.

Flynn knew he was being recorded in December. He's an intel expert, former head of military intelligence. Of course he knew what he was doing.

The Trump administration has been giving out different false stories to insiders and seeing which ones resurface in the media, in order to pinpoint where leaks are occurring. That's why Trump said in his press conference that the leaks are real but the stories are false. When Flynn was fired, it was part of the act and emboldened the media who then "smelled blood in the water," as they say, not realizing that they are all being set up. Not only is leaking classified information a crime, but publishing classified info is a crime. The media is not exempt from this law.

It looks like Trump is building a case to prosecute certain figures in the media who are breaking the law by publishing false info. That's the idea I get from his tone when he tweets that the corporate media is the enemy of the American people.

He just has to be careful how to do with without looking like he's cracking down on freedom of the press, which of course does not include the freedom of publishing classified info. But the press is who reports the story so they would tell it in their own completely false way no doubt.

Yes, perfect - I believe that's exactly it (and he's ultimately setting up Netanyahu/Israel/Saudis & others ie, the traitors within his own admin, the same way). He's culling the hidden alligators in the swamp ;)

@ Sam - As the old saying goes,...

"It's easier to believe the "truth" that is a lie than it is to believe the "lie" that is the truth"

[Bob]

Update: he just told me that the "other" hospital is telling him him its just allergies... He doesn't believe it, he knows what he has been dealing with and for how long. He has no extra money to pay for this, he can't afford the $1,000 a month Obamacare (would eat up 1/4th of his whole income) which wouldn't provide him a dime in benefits until he would reach the $6,500 annual deductible... something that maybe benefits him if in fact his brain did get infected and he ended up in the silly "$5K a day" US medical treatment protocol where he would likely be untreatable by that point anyways.

And this is just ONE of dozens of ways regular folk like my son and his young wife and baby have been screwed by this lovely government...

The Obama dark state that was setup to harm all of the US citizens Sam.. Trump is trying to get us all out of the mess. God Bless him.

We need to give Trump a chance to sort thru the swamp, deal with the floaters, deal with the slavery induced by Obama and those prior to him.

[turiya]

Here is a page explaining how Flynn was orchestrating a sting against the leaking intelligence community at least since December, when he made that phone call in the first place:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i56ttIQ2hk4J:www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

It's a Google cache because the original page has already been taken down for some reason.

Flynn knew he was being recorded in December. He's an intel expert, former head of military intelligence. Of course he knew what he was doing.

The Trump administration has been giving out different false stories to insiders and seeing which ones resurface in the media, in order to pinpoint where leaks are occurring. That's why Trump said in his press conference that the leaks are real but the stories are false. When Flynn was fired, it was part of the act and emboldened the media who then "smelled blood in the water," as they say, not realizing that they are all being set up. Not only is leaking classified information a crime, but publishing classified info is a crime. The media is not exempt from this law.

It looks like Trump is building a case to prosecute certain figures in the media who are breaking the law by publishing false info. That's the idea I get from his tone when he tweets that the corporate media is the enemy of the American people.

He just has to be careful how to do with without looking like he's cracking down on freedom of the press, which of course does not include the freedom of publishing classified info. But the press is who reports the story so they would tell it in their own completely false way no doubt.

WOW!!! This Yuuge! A Great find, AVFTM. I would be curious as to where? / how? you came up with this?
This is just too, too good to be true...
Does this mean Flynn is still on board the Trump Train?

I see that David Petraeus has dropped out as a Flynn replacement.
With the mention of author, Tom Clancy, within the article, this has the ring of a Steve Pieczenik involvement with this.

Hope you don't mind but I'm posting this, here...


___________________________

Leakers beware: Donald Trump has
utterly defeated the disloyal coteries
of the US intelligence community (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i56ttIQ2hk4J:www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
President Trump has defeated Democrats in the intelligence community (IC) who were leaking classified information to the press. Such leaks have been a problem for many presidents, but Trump is the first who took a proactive approach and set up a sting operation that identified the leakers. It’s highly illegal to leak classified information. It’s also illegal to PUBLISH this information, but Trump is too smart to try and prosecute reporters.

I thought that Trump would fire members of the IC until the leaks stopped, but the president solved the problem with a much more imaginative and deadly approach: He fed the IC false information. When this information was published, Trump was able to identify individual leakers.

How?

Each group or individual who leaked was given a different version of events. This is CLASSIC spycraft. If nine individuals are told nine different stories, and then each of those stories is published, you know the identity of each person who talked to the press.

It’s called a “barium meal,” after the medical test used to detect problems in the gastrointestinal tract. Soft tissues don’t show up on X-rays. Barium salts are “radio-opaque,” meaning that they show up in a radiograph or X-ray.


https://i0.wp.com/www.thomaswictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Barium-meal.jpg?resize=300%2C43 (https://i0.wp.com/www.thomaswictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Barium-meal.jpg)
CLICK TO ENLARGE

Author Tom Clancy called it a “canary trap.” You give multiple sources multiple versions of events. When the sources repeat their version word for word, you can identify each leaker individually.

Magic

In World War II, “Magic” was the code name for the code-breaking done by the US Army’s Signals Intelligence Service (SIS) and the US Navy’s Communication Special Unit. Japanese military code was called “Purple.” Although Magic had been able to break much of Purple, some things were still a mystery.

Magic determined in early 1942 that the Japanese were close to carrying out a major attack. However, the location of the attack—which the Japanese called “AF”—could not be figured out. Therefore the Americans carried out a barium test: Using an underwater cable, they contacted Midway Island, telling the base to broadcast a radio message “in the clear” that the desalinization plant had broken down.

The Japanese immediately sent a coded message to their forces that the desalinization plant at AF had broken down.

Now the Americans knew that the target of the impending attack was Midway Island. The greatest admiral in the US Navy—Frank Jack Fletcher—was sent out to meet the Japanese before they arrived.


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Frank Jack Fletcher

Fletcher was like Donald Trump. He was fearless and imaginative, a man who took massive but CALCULATED risks when given a nearly impossible job. He sank all four of the Japanese aircraft carriers, killing the most experienced officers, sailors, airmen, flight-deck facilitators, and mechanics. Japan never recovered, since there wasn’t enough time to train replacements.

Frank Jack Fletcher was the only flag officer who refused to be interviewed for the official US naval history of World War II. He said that his own actions were unimportant; all that mattered was what his men did. Winner of the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Veracruz (April 21-24, 1914), he died four days before his 88th birthday.

Hiring a hit man

In law enforcement, officers must avoid “entrapment.” A potential criminal must decide to commit the crime him or herself. Officers can’t put the idea into the person’s head. If, for example, a person wants to hire a hit man to murder a spouse, a police officer will pose as a murderer. That officer will ask over and over, “Are you sure you want to do this?”

The officer will describe in detail what he’s going to do, as well as the consequences. The person hiring the hit man therefore makes an informed choice to commit the crime.

Donald Trump posed as a hit man. He made sure that the leakers in the IC knew that their actions were illegal. He WARNED them. Then he launched his sting.
Timeline of the leakers being identified

December 10th, 2015: Retired US Army General Michael T. Flynn attended a conference and banquet in Moscow to celebrate the 10th anniversary of TV news channel RT. It’s claimed that Flynn—a frequent RT paid commentator—was seated next to Russian President Vladimir Putin at the concluding banquet. In reality an empty chair separated the men.


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An empty chair separated the men

Late January of 2016 – General Michael Flynn began unofficially advising Donald Trump on foreign policy.
August 17, 2016 – As the Republican nominee, Donald Trump received his first classified briefing by the IC. The briefing was prepared by Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper. Retired US Army General Michael Flynn sat in.
September 29, 2016 – Time magazine published classified information that the IC briefed Donald Trump that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The source for this claim is an unidentified intelligence official.
October 7, 2016 – The Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence officially accused the Russian government of hacking of the DNC “to interfere with the US election process.”
October 31, 2016 – Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid wrote a letter to FBI Director James Comey, claiming that Comey had “explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government — a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States.”
November 15, 2016 – Donald Trump received his first presidential daily briefing (PDB). He was given highly classified information by members of the IC. Immediately the IC told the press that Trump demanded security clearances for his children. Trump denied the claim. General Michael Flynn sat in on the PDB.

November 18, 2016 – Trump chose General Michael Flynn as his National Security Adviser. A former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Flynn is trained in espionage.
December 9, 2016 – The IC told the press that Trump receives only one PDB per week, at his request. Initially the press did not report that Vice President Elect Mike Pence received the six other presidential daily briefings. Pence is very experienced in foreign policy, having brought multiple Israeli defense contractors to Indiana when he was governor.
The press also did not report the context for Trump receiving one PDB per week: Trump delegates responsibilities. Mike Pence will serve as the president’s surrogate in the foreign policy realm, freeing up Trump to concentrate on domestic policy.
Late December, 2016 – The FBI opened an investigation into the claims that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 US presidential election.
January 10, 2017 – The press began to write about a 35-page dossier put together by an alleged British former spy. The dossier claimed that Russia was attempting to blackmail Donald Trump through the use of sex tapes. Trump denied the allegation.
January 11, 2017 – Trump described his first sting. In order to identify the people leaking classified information to the press, Trump did not tell his staff that the IC was about to brief him. After the briefing, the news was leaked to the press. Trump was therefore able to identify the leakers. He warned them that this behavior is illegal.
January 11, 2017 – DNI James Clapper spoke to Trump by telephone about the leaks. Clapper issued a statement that the leaks are “extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security.”
January 23, 2017 – Having LISTENED TO THE TAPES, the FBI cleared General Michael Flynn of any wrongdoing in his conversations with Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. Flynn did not violate the Logan Act by attempting to influence US foreign policy.
February 2, 2017 – The IC leaked what it said were details of conversations between President Trump, Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. Both Australia and Mexico denied media reports that the calls were acrimonious and that Trump made threats, was rude, and behaved badly.
February 8, 2017 – In an interview with the Washington Post, General Michael Flynn categorically denied having discussed sanctions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Thus we see that the Washington Post had been given classified information by the IC and wanted to get Flynn on record so that they could spring what they thought was a brilliant trap.
February 9, 2017 – The New York Times and the Washington Post published articles claiming that General Michael Flynn discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December of 2016. The articles were very confusing and contradictory. From the Washington Post.


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From the New York Times.


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Why couldn’t the IC tell us if Flynn had broken the law or not? Because everyone had been given a different story.

General Flynn also knew he was being recorded. Therefore we can have no doubt that this was a sting operation coordinated between President Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, General Flynn, the FBI, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).

February 13, 2017 – The IC told the press that in late January, acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates warned the White House that General Michael Flynn may be vulnerable to Russian blackmail, due to his conversations with Ambassador Kislyak. Yates based her opinion on “a report.” Sally Q. Yates is the first of the disloyal Democrats to be passed false information. She never listened to the actual tapes of Flynn’s conversations.
February 16, 2017 – Donald Trump gave a press conference in which he admitted to the sting. He said that the leaks are real, but the news is fake.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiqyafEw7Xc
In other words, the ODNI fed the IC false information that the IC then blathered to the press. The ODNI did this in order to restore to President Trump complete control over the IC so that he can stop the “corrosive and damaging” leaks. Trump also said that the conversations with Australia and Mexico were “almost like a test.”

In reality they WERE a test. No transcripts of the conversations were ever produced, and both Australia and Mexico denied the IC’s claims. The leakers have no access to actual information. They were set up. It’s clear that the Trump sting operation involved PATRIOTIC members of the National Security Agency (NSA) and PATRIOTIC members of the ODNI.

It’s also clear that General Michael Flynn helped create the barium test or canary trap. The CIA hates Flynn due to his criticism of their incompetence. After the major leaks began in September of 2016, General Flynn, Trump, Pence, James Comey, and James Clapper hatched a plan to identify the leakers by giving them false information.

Flynn had to be fired so that the leakers and the press would continue their collusion. This means that Trump has even MORE evidence of their criminality, since they didn’t immediately stop. The firing of Flynn made them overconfident and careless.

“One down, more to go!”

A fake trophy scalp

Flynn was not fired against his will. For some reason people don’t understand that. I’m very surprised. Do you not grasp that Flynn CREATED this operation? The position of National Security Adviser is almost ceremonial. When the leaks began in September of 2016, it was FLYNN who crafted this sting. He hasn’t been sacrificed. Instead, he’s working behind the scenes to root out corruption in the IC.

Today at his press conference, Donald Trump said he thinks the leaks will stop. This is because the leakers are looking at very long prison sentences. Like Tom Cruise in The Firm, Donald Trump now knows everything.

It’s up to the IC whether or not Trump unloads his cargo of information or keeps it at sea forever.


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SOURCE: Thomas Victor (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i56ttIQ2hk4J:www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
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[norman]

Ahhhh....hhhh... that's cheered me up before I go to bed.

UGE !

[KiwiElf]

Re post #159 - 163... I just hope we're not derailing the "sting" by discussing it here (yes, it would mean that Flynn is still onboard - also look at how Hillary responded with her tweet to the Flynn's "What goes around COMETS around");)

Obama was at least right about that, Clinton is careless.

(PS- watch what's happening with Priebus ;))

[Helene West]

Good grief! How can anyone think that returning to coal burning (not to mention more fracking) is going to be good for anything at all?

Just back from my night shift and saw this Bill Still report pop up.
reporting Ryan is changing sides?

what?? :jaw:


The "how" is easy...

One investigates the matter and considers it along with all related matters that make up the big picture. Then, when one considers the the openly stated goal of Donald Trump, that the US becomes energy independent such that foreign governments no longer have an ability to leverage the United States' need for energy supplies from unfriendly nations... where energy costs can be brought down such that us little guys actually experience some actual financial relief... such that when a little guy like me considers the many moves Trump is making (and God willing... that congress will make) such that the lives of my terribly struggling children can actually experience a glimmer of hope they won't forever remain in their formerly hopeless trajectory...

...and then one comes back to coal, and one investigates the actual plan with regards to coal... a plan to use the cleanest techniques currently technologically availble for reviving this job providing industry... knowing that there are nations like China who are over 75% dependent on coal and who are far less likley to be forced or compelled to use these cleaner techniques... a nation than gains every unfair advantage it can in shifting economic power into their hands... and all this going on because of people (and a former president) in the US who want the US to participate in and adhere to "the Paris Climate agreement" when now we have an actual high level NOAA Data Science, Climate and satellites consultant - John J. Bates - blowing the whistle (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html) about the "cook data" which has been relentlessly used to push this ridiculous accord when plain ole folks like myself and a few others on the forum here are hip enough to know the actual goal is to implement complete, total control over every single aspect of each of our lives...

...considering all these things that I just shared right out of my head, much less considering the plethora of fact based, experience based data found just on this forum alone that supports the "how"...

...this, onawah, is "how."

And I haven't even touched fracking yet.



On another note: my 22 year old son who woks 60 hours a week to bring home about $900 a week for his wife and two year old daughter (and himself)... whose company stays under the 50 employee limit so as not to have to get Obama care (both a job killing component of Obamacare as well as making it impossible for my son to afford healthcare), had to go to the "free" hospital last night (the one that will take him even with no money and no insurance) because of the following issue -

He got a root canal when he was 15 years old. Sadly, they only extracted three roots. The remaining one became infected and about a year ago he had to have emergency surgery as an infection such as this and the location of the infection creates a danger that the infection could spread to his brain which would disable him at best or kill him. Well, so he has been having off and on ear ache pains on that same side of his dead as this issue... having it off and on for months... always thinking it was just an ear ache and his immune system would deal with it.

Well, its gotten worse so he finally "bit the bullet" and went to the "free hospital" last night around 8 PM. He waited 7 hours and they never even got to him. He was hoping to work today as that essentially represents about $250 in income (as this would be overtime - time and a half) but he just didn't have the energy to go.

Update: he just told me that the "other" hospital is telling him him its just allergies... He doesn't believe it, he knows what he has been dealing with and for how long. He has no extra money to pay for this, he can't afford the $1,000 a month Obamacare (would eat up 1/4th of his whole income) which wouldn't provide him a dime in benefits until he would reach the $6,500 annual deductible... something that maybe benefits him if in fact his brain did get infected and he ended up in the silly "$5K a day" US medical treatment protocol where he would likely be untreatable by that point anyways.

And this is just ONE of dozens of ways regular folk like my son and his young wife and baby have been screwed by this lovely government... a government that hasn't functioned to the real benefit of regular folk who actually try and work, try and make a difference by doing a job that benefits others (my son repairs foundations of houses and buildings) and who try to earn enough to take basic care of their family and who have little or nothing left over for anything other than saving up for the next big negative surprise when they get the next lovely piece of paper in the mail that tells them they better pay this or that or... lawyers or police are the next thing to expect come knocking at their door.


Sam
I PM'd you about your son and the dental problems that I've had a similar ordeal spanning years myself. I hope I did the PM correctly as I haven't used it before..

Coal is another trigger word for ideologues today. They act like it's the same techniques as in 1930 and they'd rather have people in three states living in tents than use the bloody resource. Feed people first then talk about friggin' toxins...

Re the nightmare you're describing with obamacare, one of my brothers has three kids and they pay close to 8K in deductibles. I don't talk to this brother too often so I don't know the details why but that is what my sister in law told me. That blew me away. I think those obsessed with identity politics as the most important thing in life must be privileged people, maybe mostly single with good jobs? Maybe it works for those below the poverty line? It's robbing the working and middle class families of disposable income to do other quality of life things. But then that was probably the intention all along... it's the families they want to destroy...

[turiya]

NEWS X22 REPORT... No mention of 100,000 California National Guard Troops... John McCain & Lindsay Graham in violation of Logan Act?


The Elite Push Their Agenda To Censor
Those Individuals Who Are Not With Them
Episode 1207b
(Published on Feb 17, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUW-ahx8iJc__________________________

Peter Schiff: The Economy Handed Off To Trump
Is Like A Hand Grenade & It's Getting Ready To Go Off
(Published on Feb 18, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH1bR6fdQ7Y

[Helene West]

Turiya's #162 above! I hope this is real, this is soooo good.... a trump sting operation! please be true...

[Chester]

AVFTM is perhaps the most relentless (and courageous) researcher I have ever gotten to know (Herve and Houman right there too)... AVFTM - an amazing and outstanding member. Your work here, turiya... especially the consciousness stream you have established in your two epic threads, Transition into Trump and now, Trump: the Great American Reset has impacted my life profoundly...

I thank you both.

[KiwiElf]

AVFTM is perhaps the most relentless (and courageous) researcher I have ever gotten to know (Herve and Houman right there too)... AVFTM - an amazing and outstanding member. Your work here, turiya... especially the consciousness stream you have established in your two epic threads, Transition into Trump and now, Trump: the Great American Reset has impacted my life profoundly...

I thank you both.

That goes double for me (and you too, Sam). Great work and sincerest THANKS! :) :highfive:

[Helene West]

Forgive me if this was posted somewhere else but I don't remember seeing it. I just found out 5 min ago that there is going to be marches on March 4th - March4Trump! I hadn't heard a thing! Here is the website with the list of locations!:

https://www.march4trump.com/local-marches/

[BMJ]

It looks like Trump is building a case to prosecute certain figures in the media who are breaking the law by publishing false info. That's the idea I get from his tone when he tweets that the corporate media is the enemy of the American people.

Yes, perfect - I believe that's exactly it (and he's ultimately setting up Netanyahu/Israel/Saudis & others ie, the traitors within his own admin, the same way). He's culling the hidden alligators in the swamp ;)

Yep, thats the exact same thought I have had for at least the last month. Give them enough rope and lets see whom hangs themself.

Furthermore the pedo/satanists have been arrogantly flaunting their lifestyle on social media thinking they are untouchable, "they have had more than enough rope".
I think these pedo/satanists are the achilles heel that will bring down the entire tptw network.
These pedo/satanists will not even be able to find a pebble to hide under soon enough.

[turiya]

Doug Hagmann digging deeper into the Michael Flynn "coverup without a crime"/ resignation.... Sally Yates... Morning Joe Scarsboro... Mika Brzezinski... coup d'etat in America... Podesta data dump... Pizza-gate... Philippe Reines... "What Goes Around Comets Around"... Obama / Hillary foot-soldiers to takedown the American government... Criminal CIA connection with the NYTimes & Washington Post...


Untangling Dyncorp & Dead Bodies With George Webb
(Streamed live on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVc1B5SdMGw______________________________



Meet The Awan Brothers - The (Not-Russian) IT Staff Who Allegedly Hacked Congress' Computer Systems (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-04/meet-awan-brothers-not-russian-it-staff-who-allegedly-hacked-congress-computer-syste)

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In an ironic twist, it appears it may not have been 'The Russians' that hacked America's political system last year. As The Daily Caller reports, (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/) three brothers (Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan) who managed office IT for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and other lawmakers were abruptly relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed congressional computer networks without permission.

Feb 4, 2017 3:20 PM

650,000 Emails Found On Anthony Weiner's Laptop; DOJ Blocked Foundation Probe (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-30/fbi-scour-through-650000-emails-found-weiners-laptop)

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Federal agents are preparing to scour roughly 650,000 emails tha, were discovered on Anthony Weiner's laptop to see how many relate to a prior probe of Hillary Clinton’s email use. Metadata on the device suggests there may be thousands sent to or from the private server that the Democratic nominee used while she was secretary of state.

Oct 30, 2016 9:34 PM


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[ponda]

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[Helene West]

I went to bed feeling upbeat about two things, post#162 and finding out about a March 4 Trump that is supposedly taking place in over 10 cities, but I woke up stricken with - Did I fall for Fake News? lol....

In rereading #162 above I went to the source, a guy name Thomas Victor, who seems like a smart guy but is he some kind of insider or is trump's camp setting a trap for the leakers just a blog theory of this Victor?

I also went back to the March4Trump.com website and don't see anything about who is sponsoring it, just some woman's email who I've written to but haven't received anything back. On Youtube there are vids about it being a psychops fake-out but on Twitter it seems real, lots of folks want to march...
more shall be revealed....

[Hervé]

Remember Trump's Tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/832198588201594880):




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_bigger.jpg Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! They will be caught!

4:02 AM - 16 Feb 2017
41,396 replies 25,006 retweets 121,999 likes ... which means that, by then, the trap(s) had already sprung...

[turiya]

I went to bed feeling upbeat about two things, post#162 and finding out about a March 4 Trump that is supposedly taking place in over 10 cities, but I woke up stricken with - Did I fall for Fake News? lol....

In rereading #162 above I went to the source, a guy name Thomas Victor, who seems like a smart guy but is he some kind of insider or is trump's camp setting a trap for the leakers just a blog theory of this Victor?

I also went back to the March4Trump.com website and don't see anything about who is sponsoring it, just some woman's email who I've written to but haven't received anything back. On Youtube there are vids about it being a psychops fake-out but on Twitter it seems real, lots of folks want to march...
more shall be revealed....

Helene

Here is a Breitbart article about this...


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Exclusive — The Spirit of America:
Conservative Grassroots Leaders Plan Massive
Pro-Trump Demonstrations Nationwide (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/08/exclusive-spirit-america-conservative-grassroots-leaders-plan-massive-pro-trump-demonstrations-nationwide/)
by Matthew Boyle
8 Feb 2017
Washington, D.C.
Conservative grassroots leaders are planning a series of massive pro-President Donald Trump rallies nationwide, Breitbart News has learned exclusively.

On Feb. 27 and March 4, the rallies—dubbed the Spirit of America Rallies—will spring up nationwide in cities and towns across America.

“These rallies are inclusive, non-partisan, and open to anyone supporting President Trump in his efforts to bring back manufacturing jobs to America, put the security of our nation ahead of political correctness, improve our infrastructure, revitalize the inner cities and secure our nation’s borders,” Debbie Dooley (https://twitter.com/Crimsontider?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor), a national co-founder of the Tea Party movement and a key organizer of the Spirit of America rallies, says in a press release obtained by Breitbart News ahead of its public release.

Since President Trump’s election, during his time as president-elect and since his inauguration on Jan. 20, hardcore progressive leftists have been repeatedly protesting him in a sometimes violent manner. These rallies, organizers say, are meant to be a peaceful show of force from the “silent majority” that delivered Trump a landslide electoral college victory over failed Democratic president Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Dooley told Breitbart News that since the anti-Trump women’s march in D.C. after the president’s inauguration, she has received so many calls from Trump supporters–including many, many women Trump supporters–urging her to organize a show of force among the silent majority nationwide in response–that she had to turn off her cell phone so she could get work done. The Spirit of America rallies are not Tea Party rallies, she adds, and she hopes that Democrat groups backing Trump–there were many of them nationwide, forming a collective called the “Trumpocrats”–will get involved and step up to help the president, too. She also notes that the selection of Feb. 27 as the kickoff date of these pro-Trump rallies is significant, since that was the first day of the Tea Party movement back in 2009.

“I am proud to lead the charge here in Louisiana to get supporters of President Trump to show their support of his policy agenda through these Spirit of America rallies,” Col. Rob Maness, a retired Air Force colonel, founder of GatorPAC and two-time conservative Senate candidate in Louisiana who’s also involved in helping the rallies in his home state, added in the release. “Average citizens from across the political spectrum and all walks of life elected Mr. Trump and we at GatorPAC are especially pleased to help him with his national effort to Make America Great Again and #DrainTheSwamp priorities in Washington D.C.”

Ralph King, an elector for President Trump from Ohio and the co-founder of Main Street Patriots, added that he believes “the American electorate spoke loud and clear this past November.”

“These Spirit of America Rallies are a continuation of the collective voice of Americans that embrace President Trump’s policies to put the American workers and citizens first once again,” King said.

Rallies are in the works in states as far-flung as Arizona, Georgia, Colorado, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, New Jersey, Ohio, South Carolina, and Washington state—as well as other states, organizers say. More information is available on the Spirit of America rallies website (http://mainstreetpatriots.us/)

Debbie Dooley Twitter (https://twitter.com/Crimsontider?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

BREITBART (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/08/exclusive-spirit-america-conservative-grassroots-leaders-plan-massive-pro-trump-demonstrations-nationwide/)



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[turiya]

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The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes,
@NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not
my enemy, it is the enemy of the American
People!

1:48 PM - 17 Feb 2017






McCain Responds To Trump's Tweet: "That's How Dictators Get Started" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/mccain-responds-trumps-tweet-thats-how-dictators-get-started)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/mccain%20press.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/mccain-responds-trumps-tweet-thats-how-dictators-get-started)
"If you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and in many times adversarial free press, and without it we'd lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That's how dictators get started."

Feb 18, 2017 3:20 PM

A third response is that if there is indeed a shadow government forming behind the "soft coup" attempt to potentially oust Trump, then McCain is not far from it; yet others have pointed out that despite the escalating tensions between Trump and the press, the former remains the democratically elected POTUS and that the majority of Americans support him in his feud with a media which on numerous occasions has indeed demonstrated to be distributing what is so simplistically called "fake news", which as a reminder is what Trump is "ranting and raving" against, not the concept of a free press, or the First Amendment as much as the corporate-owned press would like to see itself made into a martyr defending these values.

In any case, with relations between the Executive branch and the Fourth Estate at levels never seen before, many wonder what happens next, and whether this latest escalation between the two sides presages an even greater scandal to be revealed in the coming days.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Cb1mr1ByU

[Helene West]

Thx Turiya
I feel better now! It's Real!
It's been ages since I've been to a march. The #1 problem is - well, if there is any kind of turnout - you won't find a bathroom!

[turiya]

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Good one, ponda... make it a Sunday Funnies kind of day...


https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/cb021717dAPC20170217124507.jpg

Chicago is a Sanctuary City... good luck w/ that one...


https://i0.wp.com/comicincorrect.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Rahm-Safety-600-LI.jpg

Looking Elsewhere... in Paris, France...


Muslims and Antifa Have Taken Paris
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF-Lof8Qiy4
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[onawah]

Robbing Peter to pay Paul or "killing ourselves to live" is what coal burning is, just like fracking.
The taxpayers, not the corporations that make the messes, pay for cleaning up after (that which can actually be cleaned up, which isn't much), both in cost to the environment and in health care.
In Arkansas where I live people have been fighting tooth and nail to ban it, and Arkansas is not a rich state.
However, it's a beautiful state with lots of open spaces, known as the "Natural State" and everyone here knows that tourists come here because of that, and because the water has long been known to be some of the purest and most healing water in the world.
Coal mining and burning, along with fracking, fluoridation, spraying of toxic pesticides and herbicides is ruining all that, and the economy suffers, jobs are lost, health care costs go up and children are affected the most.
It's not hard to understand why Arkansans prefer to keep their state clean and beautiful and the tourist industry thriving.
Many communities around the country are dying because their water is so polluted, and the MSM doesn't report that except when they are forced to.
Take a look at Erin Brockovich's Facebook page and website sometime; she's been covering the stories as well as she can, but it would be a full time job for many people, not just one.
"Clean coal" is a myth.
Here's just one very revealing article from Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis: http://ieefa.org/how-a-clean-coal-myth-squandered-hundreds-of-millions-of-taxpayer-dollars-before-it-was-finally-unmasked/

When the U.S. Department of Energy pulled the plug in February on a $1 billion subsidy to build FutureGen, a “clean coal” plant in Illinois, it put a merciful end to a twisted tale that had been unraveling for years. The coal industry peddled influence at high levels among both Democrats and Republicans to move the project forward, but in the end it was killed—and rightly so—by economic realities.

“Clean coal” is an oxymoron used to describe a variety of technological schemes that might be used not to make coal itself—a highly polluting fuel—“clean,” but to remove pollutants that are generated when coal is burned for fuel. Sometimes the term “clean coal” refers to modern air pollution controls that can be added to coal-fired power plants. Sometimes it means trying to capture more of a plant’s harmful emissions by “gasifying” coal before it is burned. FutureGen involved gasification along with an experimental technology known as carbon capture and sequestration in which the carbon dioxide generated from burning coal is stored underground.

FutureGen was first proposed with great fanfare in 2003 by the Bush administration, which described it as a “zero-emissions” coal plant that would rescue the coal industry in the face of potentially broader regulations on emissions. A consortium of coal companies, among them Peabody Energy, Alpha Natural Resources, AngloAmerican, Glencore, and JoyGlobal, formed an alliance and promised to put up $250 million to build FutureGen if the U.S. government pitched in $700 million.

AS ALWAYS WITH SUCH PROJECTS, PROPONENTS DRUMMED UP POLITICAL SUPPORT WITH PROMISES OF AN EMPLOYMENT WINDFALL. News organizations published job-creation estimates at the time that ran the gamut from 1,000 construction jobs and 150 permanent jobs to 11,000 employees and “countless” spin-off jobs. It’s unlikely any of these numbers were verified at the time, but they made for a good sales pitch.

The Bush administration set up a national bidding war to get FutureGen going. Seven states— Illinois, Kentucky, North Dakota, Ohio, Texas, West Virginia and Wyoming—fell all over themselves offering subsidies to woo FutureGen. A June 2006 story in the Washington Post described the pageant like this:

“Illinois has up to $80 million in incentives on the table, from grants to low-interest loans. Ohio is offering twice that, while Texas has passed a law making it responsible for any legal entanglements stemming from the coal-fired plant’s carbon dioxide emissions. Some of the states are ponying up everything from sales-tax relief to free land, pushing the enticements into the hundreds of millions of dollars.”

In December 2007, Mattoon, Ill., was selected as the site for the plant after Gov. Rod Blagojevich (now serving a 14-year prison sentence for corruption) led an intensive campaign to attract FutureGen, lining up support from the state’s political delegation, organizing rallies, and hiring a major D.C. lobbying firm, Cassidy and Associates, at a taxpayer cost of $460,000.

Much to the chagrin of Blagojevich and friends, the Bush administration turned around and cancelled the project in February 2008, citing cost overruns that had increased the price tag from $1 billion to $1.8 billion. Energy Secretary Samuel W. Bodman told the honest truth in explaining that FutureGen was scuttled on “the likelihood that it would fail, leaving the American people with hundreds of millions of dollars in sunk cost and none of the benefits.”

“Not acceptable,” Bodman said.

Not to be deterred, the Blagojevich machine revved up again when a senator from Illinois—Barack Obama—was elected to the White House. The state’s congressional delegation got funding for FutureGen restored in President Obama’s federal stimulus package in 2009, and the Obama administration announced a $1 billion grant for FutureGen in February 2010.

But a funny thing happened on the way to completion. After the Department of Energy spent $116.5 million for work on the power plant itself and $86 million on its underground gasification site, the project stalled out last year. The technology hadn’t taken off the way it was supposed to, echoing similar failures elsewhere. American Electric Power, a company with a much-ballyhooed plan to implement carbon capture and sequestration at its Huntington Plant in West Va., cancelled its project in 2012 after concluding that the technology was unviable on a commercial scale. Today, Mississippi Power Company presses ahead with its Kemper ‘integrated gasification coal combined cycle,” or IGCC plant, although the price of the plant—which will be borne by ratepayers—has now doubled since inception and the long-delayed project is at least a year away from operation. The performance history of Duke Energy’s IGCC plant in Edwardsport, Indiana, suggests Kemper is extremely unlikely to function as promised.

WHEN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION—LIKE THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION BEFORE IT—ANNOUNCED IT WAS CUTTING OFF FUTUREGEN FUNDING, it said it was doing so “in order to best protect taxpayer interest.”

What was left largely unsaid was that the private side of the original private-public partnership had never really stepped up. Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, one of FutureGen’s foremost cheerleaders, did hint that the coal industry had not held up its end of the bargain, saying the “project has always depended on a private commitment and can’t go forward without it.”

FutureGen, in fact, was a taxpayer handout to the coal industry all along. The whole history of the “clean coal” gambit is rooted in a series of federal subsidies, publicly funded bond issues, and university research grants. If the coal industry really believed a miracle technology could be found to burn coal in an affordable and environmentally sound way, it would be investing its own money—earnestly and in great quantities—to make that happen, not just hoping to hoodwink taxpayers into footing the bill.

Sandy Buchanan is IEEFA’s executive director.
Inbound links:
Investors Flap Their Wings, Coal Industry Shudders - Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis : Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis | 29 May, 2015
HECA YEAH! Hydrogen Energy California (HECA) Coal Plant Developer Throws in the Towel | Slantpoint Democrat | 8 March, 2016
HECA Yeah! Hydrogen Energy California (HECA) Coal Plant Developer Throws in the Towel | NEWS7 | 8 March, 2016
HECA Yeah! Hydrogen Energy California (HECA) Coal Plant Developer Throws in the Towel – gXyz.NeWs | 8 March, 2016
HECA Yeah! Hydrogen Energy California (HECA) Coal Plant Developer Throws in the Towel | Green Society | 8 March, 2016
IEEFA Wyoming: Bid to Export ‘Clean Coal’ to Japan Rings False

 - Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis : Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis | 28 July, 2016
Opinion: Wyoming’s ‘clean coal’ plans stir false hopes | Last Best News | 29 July, 2016
Why Jamaica Should Say NO to Coal: Lessons To Be Learned From Elsewhere | Petchary's Blog | 20 October, 2016
http://www.valras-plage.net/antlerx-review/ | 29 November, 2016


Many other articles report more problems from sources including Yale, National Geographic and Popular Mechanics:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a4947/4339171/
There's just one problem with this scenario: Coal will never be clean. It is possible to make coal emissions cleaner. In fact, we've come a long way since the '70s in finding ways to reduce sulfur--dioxide and nitrogen-oxide emissions, and more progress can be made. But the nut of the clean-coal sales pitch is that we can also bottle up the CO2 produced when coal is burned, most likely by burying it deep in the earth. That may be possible in theory, but it's devilishly difficult in practice.

Carbon dioxide is not some minor byproduct of coal combustion. Remember your high school chemistry: When coal burns, oxygen from the air combines with the carbon in the coal in an exothermic (heat-releasing) reaction. Because of the addition of oxygen, the resulting CO2 weighs more than the carbon alone--which means that each pound of coal produces about 2.5 pounds of CO2. Keeping that CO2 out of the atmos-phere requires a process known as carbon capture and sequestration (CCS). It works by forcing the exhaust from a power plant through a liquid solvent that absorbs the carbon dioxide. Later, the solvent is heated to liberate the gas, much the way a bottle of soda releases its dissolved CO2 when opened. The CO2 is then compressed to about 100 times normal atmospheric pressure and sent away for storage.

So far, so good. But CCS has two major hurdles. First, it consumes energy--a lot of it. While estimates vary, a coal-fired power plant would have to burn roughly 25 percent more coal to handle carbon sequestration while producing the same amount of electricity. That would mean a vast expansion in mining, transportation costs and byproducts such as fly ash.

But that's the easy part. The harder challenge would be transporting and burying all of this high-pressure CO2. American Electric Power recently began a CCS project at its Mountaineer Plant in West Virginia. The operation captures a few hundred tons of CO2 a day. That's a start--but a typical 500-megawatt power plant produces about 10,000 tons daily. Collectively, America's coal-fired power plants generate 1.5 billion tons per year. Capturing that would mean filling 30 million barrels with liquid CO2 every single day--about one and a half times the volume of crude oil the country consumes. It took roughly a century to build the infrastructure we use to distribute petroleum products. Could we build an even bigger CCS infrastructure of pumps, pipelines and wells quickly enough to hit the ambitious targets the climate bill envisions? Serious plans to engineer--much less finance--such a vast project aren't even on the table.
Here's a final problem: We don't know if the gas will stay buried. We could easily spend hundreds of billions injecting CO2 into the earth only to have it start leaking out again in a few decades. None of this means that CCS is impossible to achieve. But it is a dangerous gamble to assume that it will become technically and economically feasible any time soon.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/2015/jun/10-reasons-clean-coal-is-a-marketing-myth
http://www.coal-is-dirty.com/top-5-clean-coal-myths
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2014/04/coal/nijhuis-text
http://e360.yale.edu/features/the_myth_of_clean_coal

"Where there is no vision, the people perish."



Coal is another trigger word for ideologues today. They act like it's the same techniques as in 1930 and they'd rather have people in three states living in tents than use the bloody resource. Feed people first then talk about friggin' toxins...

[Chester]

Just like the lovely "global warming" scam...

The IEEFA is a globalist front, onawah.

http://ieefa.org/about/


About

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) conducts research and analyses on financial and economic issues related to energy and the environment. The Institute’s mission is to accelerate the transition to a diverse, sustainable and profitable energy economy and to reduce dependence on coal and other non-renewable energy resources.

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis receives its funding from philanthropic organizations. We gratefully acknowledge our funders, including the Rockefeller Family Fund, Energy Foundation, Mertz-Gilmore Foundation, Moxie Foundation, William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Growald Family Fund, Flora Family Fund, Wallace Global Fund, and V. Kann Rasmussen Foundation.

Surely you cannot expect the veterans around here to take anything a site like this "says is true" to actually be true?


As an example of this type of scam being exposed, maybe you missed this -

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/07/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges.html

Speaking for myself only... a good one to remember is - "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me."


ohhhh, and this post may have been missed -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95959-Know-why-DAPL--the-Dakota-Access-Pipeline--is-going-ahead-anyway...&p=1134318&viewfull=1#post1134318

[turiya]

Priebus: Take Trump Seriously When He Calls The Press "The Enemy" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/priebus-take-trump-seriously-when-he-calls-press-enemy)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/priebus%20face%20nation.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/priebus-take-trump-seriously-when-he-calls-press-enemy)
"The media is willing to run with unnamed sources, apparently false, leaked documents to create stories. I think that the media should stop with this unnamed source stuff, put names on a piece of paper and print it. If people aren't willing to put their name next to a quote, then the quote shouldn't be listed" Trump's Chief of Staff told CBS' Face the Nation in the latest heated exchange between the Trump administration and the "enemy press."

Feb 19, 2017 10:44 AM


_____________________________

The AP Asked Trump's Supporters How Feel About His War With The Press: This Is What It Found (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/ap-asked-trumps-supporters-how-feel-about-his-war-press-what-it-found)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/trump%20supporter.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/ap-asked-trumps-supporters-how-feel-about-his-war-press-what-it-found)
The Associated Press contacted Trump supporters across the country (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f6fa3a4a09874532b9e610535ae463e9/trump-supporters-cheer-his-combative-stance-media)to see how they viewed Trump's latest fued with press. Here are the views of some of those supporters.

Feb 19, 2017 2:18 PM


_____________________________

Democrats Suggest Invoking The 25th Amendment Unless Trump "Gets A Grip" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/democrats-go-there-invoke-25th-amendment-unless-trump-gets-grip)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170219_dems.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/democrats-go-there-invoke-25th-amendment-unless-trump-gets-grip)
After questioning President Trump's sanity earlier in the week (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/democrats-question-trumps-sanity-blasted-weaponizing-mental-health), it appears Democrats have found another narrative to cling to - invoke the 25th Amendment unless Trump "gets a grip."

Feb 19, 2017 12:57 PM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVH3ZpM2S88


Careful Mr Franken & Mr Tapper... According the Steve Pieczenik, slander lawsuits just may be forthcoming...

[onawah]

There is a long list of articles, and they all arrive at the same conclusions--coal burning is a bad idea, with no real foreseeable future--from Popular Mechanics to any number of environmental groups and genuine research facilities. If you base your conclusions on one source, who's the fool?
Even the elite can't hide the truth about coal, so apparently they aren't even trying anymore.
The real issue isn't "global warming", in any case, it's pollution, and the financial disasters that have come from trying to make coal profitable when there are so many other renewable, cheaper and non-polluting sources of energy now that are obviously working in other countries which are smart enough to invest in them.

Just like the lovely "global warming" scam...

The IEEFA is a globalist front, onawah.

http://ieefa.org/about/


About

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) conducts research and analyses on financial and economic issues related to energy and the environment. The Institute’s mission is to accelerate the transition to a diverse, sustainable and profitable energy economy and to reduce dependence on coal and other non-renewable energy resources.

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis receives its funding from philanthropic organizations. We gratefully acknowledge our funders, including the Rockefeller Family Fund, Energy Foundation, Mertz-Gilmore Foundation, Moxie Foundation, William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Growald Family Fund, Flora Family Fund, Wallace Global Fund, and V. Kann Rasmussen Foundation.

Surely you cannot expect the veterans around here to take anything a site like this "says is true" to actually be true?


As an example of this type of scam being exposed, maybe you missed this -

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/07/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges.html

Speaking for myself only... a good one to remember is - "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me."


ohhhh, and this post may have been missed -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95959-Know-why-DAPL--the-Dakota-Access-Pipeline--is-going-ahead-anyway...&p=1134318&viewfull=1#post1134318

[Eram]

Sometimes, support for the Trump train seems to come from unsuspected places.

Anyone familiar with the Health Ranger, Mike Adams from the website: naturalnews.com/?
Apparently, he has been covering Trump for some time now, in an attempt to bring real news about him, instead of the fake news, produced by CNN, NYT, WP and the likes.

Good for him, but that's not the main reason of my post.

Apparently, he has been receiving proposals for bribes and threats even to start gunning for other alternative media sources and Infowars in particular.

Don't know how to include a soundcloud here, so will just post a link to it (https://soundcloud.com/healthranger/health-ranger-threatened-destroy-alex-jones-or-we-will-destroy-you?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fhealthranger%2Fhealth-ranger-threatened-destroy-alex-jones-or-we-will-destroy-you).

Something that we all should become aware of fast.
Attempts to infiltrate the alternative media.

[turiya]

Sometimes, support for the Trump train seems to come from unsuspected places.

Anyone familiar with the Health Ranger, Mike Adams from the website: naturalnews.com/?
Apparently, he has been covering Trump for some time now, in an attempt to bring real news about him, instead of the fake news, produced by CNN, NYT, WP and the likes.

Good for him, but that's not the main reason of my post.

Apparently, he has been receiving proposals for bribes and threats even to start gunning for other alternative media sources and Infowars in particular.

Don't know how to include a soundcloud here, so will just post a link to it (https://soundcloud.com/healthranger/health-ranger-threatened-destroy-alex-jones-or-we-will-destroy-you?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fhealthr anger%2Fhealth-ranger-threatened-destroy-alex-jones-or-we-will-destroy-you).

Something that we all should become aware of fast.
Attempts to infiltrate the alternative media.

Funny, Eram, cuz Mike Adams used to host Alex's show when Alex needed to leave town on various occasions. - thanks for the link.

Late Edit:

Found the youtube that Mike had posted...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sv2oZHPng0

[norman]

Mental Health may turn out to be the central battleground, not just Trump's. The current failing matrix is dependent on defining everything but itself as a mental illness.

[Chester]

There is a long list of articles, and they all arrive at the same conclusions--coal burning is a bad idea, with no real foreseeable future--from Popular Mechanics to any number of environmental groups and genuine research facilities. If you base your conclusions on one source, who's the fool?
Even the elite can't hide the truth about coal, so apparently they aren't even trying anymore.
The real issue isn't "global warming", in any case, it's pollution, and the financial disasters that have come from trying to make coal profitable when there are so many other renewable, cheaper and non-polluting sources of energy now that are obviously working in other countries which are smart enough to invest in them.

Just like the lovely "global warming" scam...

The IEEFA is a globalist front, onawah.

http://ieefa.org/about/


About

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) conducts research and analyses on financial and economic issues related to energy and the environment. The Institute’s mission is to accelerate the transition to a diverse, sustainable and profitable energy economy and to reduce dependence on coal and other non-renewable energy resources.

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis receives its funding from philanthropic organizations. We gratefully acknowledge our funders, including the Rockefeller Family Fund, Energy Foundation, Mertz-Gilmore Foundation, Moxie Foundation, William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Growald Family Fund, Flora Family Fund, Wallace Global Fund, and V. Kann Rasmussen Foundation.

Surely you cannot expect the veterans around here to take anything a site like this "says is true" to actually be true?

As an example of this type of scam being exposed, maybe you missed this -

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/07/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges.html

Speaking for myself only... a good one to remember is - "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me."


ohhhh, and this post may have been missed -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95959-Know-why-DAPL--the-Dakota-Access-Pipeline--is-going-ahead-anyway...&p=1134318&viewfull=1#post1134318

Here's what has been missed. The sources that are funded by the very same folks who are globalists (NWO folks), folks who are the big time owners of anything that will make them money when the globalists get their way, folks who fund the schools and learning materials (like text books) who indoctrinate (ooops I mean teach) our children "what the facts are" are folks who I do not necessarily trust to be telling me or you or anyone else the truth. THAT is the point.

Remember 97% of the scientists are convinced human derived "global warming" is destroying our planet BS?
(http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425232/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle)

and consider how almost all those "scientists" depend on "grants" provided by these same wealthy globalist families and their "foundations"

and then consider how the data they use is selected and shall we say cherry picked so that "their findings" follow the narrative.

and then we have the whistle blower who blew that claim the world was warming right out of the water. (as I posted)


What I am telling you is that the people you are trusting to be truthful and honest are the same people I have learned lie, lie incessantly and do so to fulfill an agneda which, if you knew the truth of, you would probably be rising up in the streets to stop.

so again...


Fool me once...

and imagine... just imagine that one time something these shills might say might actually be true? How is anyone ever supposed to know? Can you trust someone with their track record?

[turiya]

Hilarious Mark Dice piece on CNN as Fake News ...


Don Lemon Called “Fake News”
By Guest - Gets Triggered
(Published on Feb 18, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LulNAEeTsrc

[norman]

I've just heard on tonight's AJ show that 17 days before Obama left he signed an EO making NSA share it's surveillance data ( spying on Trump admin' ) with 16 other agencies BEFORE classifying it and locking it up.

The affect of this is that it feeds a shadow government in opposition to Trump.

It was signed off by Clapper and wotzername the old bent Attorney General.

Why do that just before leaving ? If it was such a good idea, they had 8 years to have done it sooner.

[turiya]

I've just heard on tonight's AJ show that 17 days before Obama left he signed an EO making NSA share it's surveillance data ( spying on Trump admin' ) with 16 other agencies BEFORE classifying it and locking it up.

The affect of this is that it feeds a shadow government in opposition to Trump.

It was signed off by Clapper and wotzername the old bent Attorney General.

Why do that just before leaving ? If it was such a good idea, they had 8 years to have done it sooner.

Norman - Yes, I posted an article by Martin Armstrong in Post #148 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1135117&viewfull=1#post1135117), there. You might have missed it because I filed it as a Late Add, underneath a ZeroHedge Jay Sekulow article headline - just to try to keep things categorized better. Here it is below:


Obama is the Source of the Coup (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/19/obama-is-the-source-of-the-coup/#more-143628)
Guest Post by Martin Armstrong (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/obama-is-the-source-of-the-coup/)
Feb 19, 2017

https://armstrongmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/obama-trump-meeting.jpg (https://armstrongmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/obama-trump-meeting.jpg)


The Obama administration intentionally set the stage knowing what they were doing was designed to undermine and cripple the Trump Administration. This appears to me to be an intentional plot by Obama to allow his supporters within the intelligence community to topple Trump if they can. Obama waited until he had just 17 days left in office to sign an executive order to expand the power of the National Security Agency (NSA) allowing it to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies BEFORE any application of top secret or privacy protection would be attached.

Obama never did this while he was in office. Whenever a politician does something like this, there is ALWAYS a hidden agenda. This Obama executive order changed everything with regard to national security that was put in place by an executive order dating back to Ronald Reagan. Obama opened the flood gates and this I personally believe was a treasonous act showing the Democrats adopted a strategy to under,mine Trump from the outset and to create massive civil unrest.

Trump MUST reinstate the national security procedures that have been in place since Ronald Reagan and fire everyone in intelligence appointed by Obama. Clean the swamp must start right there and NOW! Obama knew he would set up a shadow government and refuse to leave Washington. He seems to be working harder now while as President he may have played golf more than any other president.

https://armstrongmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Obama-Tweet-2-17-2017.jpg (https://twitter.com/BarackObama?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email&iid=f074da9d60454cb8b9ebefa04034dd85&uid=331287203&nid=244+272699405)

Proof that Obama is behind the civil unrest is the fact he has taken to Twitter. He states boldly to believe in that the people can bring about change through their own action. He is implying to rise up and create civil unrest on a massive scale.

Obama has been behind this entire affair of creating civil unrest and I believe is deliberately undermining national security with his moles strategically placed within the intelligence community to undermine the government. That is unquestionable TREASON and the press will only attack Trump and never defend the country. When Obama won, you did not see the other 46% set fires and try to bring down the government. The left always demands it is their way or no way. This is why we will move into civil war in the years ahead. Independents just say live and let live – don’t bother me and I will not bother you. Leftists say you can live only as they command – they cannot sleep at night worrying what independents are doing. It’s like the Hunger Games – suppress all freedom is their agenda.

Martin Armstrong (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/obama-is-the-source-of-the-coup/)

[turiya]

https://www.johndenugent.com/images/paul-craig-roberts-banner-march-2016.jpg (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/)

The Stakes for Trump
and All of Us (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/18/stakes-trump-us-paul-craig-roberts/)
— Paul Craig Roberts
February 18, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns
We need to understand, and so does President Trump, that the hoax “war on terror” was used to transform intelligence agencies, such as the NSA and CIA, and criminal investigative agencies, such as the FBI, into Gestapo secret police agencies. Trump is now threatened by these agencies, because he rejects the neoconservative’s agenda of US world hegemony that supports the gigantic military/security annual budget.

Our secret police agencies are busy at work planting “intelligence” among the presstitute media that Trump is compromised by “Russian connections” and is a security threat to the United States. The plan is to make a case in the media, as was done against President Nixon, and to force Trump from office. To openly take on a newly elected president is an act of extraordinary audacity that implies enormous confidence, or else desperation, on the part of the police state agencies.

Here you can see CNN openly cooperating with the CIA in treating wild and irresponsible speculation that Trump is under Russian influence as if it is an established fact. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46476.htm (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46476.htm)

The “evidence” provided by CNN and the CIA is a “report” by the New York Times that, with little doubt, was planted in the NYT by the CIA.

This is so obvious that it is clear that CNN and the CIA regard the American people as so gullible as to be completely stupid.

Glenn Greenwald explains to Amy Goodman that the CIA is after Trump, because Trump’s announced policy of reducing the dangerous tensions with Russia conflicts with the military/security complex’s need for a major enemy.

“The deep state, although there’s no precise or scientific definition, generally refers to the agencies in Washington that are permanent power factions. They stay and exercise power even as presidents who are elected come and go. They typically exercise their power in secret, in the dark, and so they’re barely subject to democratic accountability, if they’re subject to it at all. It’s agencies like the CIA, the NSA and the other intelligence agencies, that are essentially designed to disseminate disinformation and deceit and propaganda, and have a long history of doing not only that, but also have a long history of the world’s worst war crimes, atrocities and death squads. This is who not just people like Bill Kristol, but lots of Democrats are placing their faith in, are trying to empower, are cheering for as they exert power separate and apart from—in fact, in opposition to—the political officials to whom they’re supposed to be subordinate.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY1MiNfwcRg
“And you go—this is not just about Russia. You go all the way back to the campaign, and what you saw was that leading members of the intelligence community, including Mike Morell, who was the acting CIA chief under President Obama, and Michael Hayden, who ran both the CIA and the NSA under George W. Bush, were very outspoken supporters of Hillary Clinton. In fact, Michael Morell went to The New York Times, and Michael Hayden went to The Washington Post, during the campaign to praise Hillary Clinton and to say that Donald Trump had become a recruit of Russia.

"The CIA and the intelligence community were vehemently in support of Clinton and vehemently opposed to Trump, from the beginning. And the reason was, was because they liked Hillary Clinton’s policies better than they liked Donald Trump’s.

"One of the main priorities of the CIA for the last five years has been a proxy war in Syria, designed to achieve regime change with the Assad regime. Hillary Clinton was not only for that, she was critical of Obama for not allowing it to go further, and wanted to impose a no-fly zone in Syria and confront the Russians. Donald Trump took exactly the opposite view. He said we shouldn’t care who rules Syria; we should allow the Russians, and even help the Russians, kill ISIS and al-Qaeda and other people in Syria.

"So, Trump’s agenda that he ran on was completely antithetical to what the CIA wanted. Clinton’s was exactly what the CIA wanted, and so they were behind her. And so, they’ve been trying to undermine Trump for many months throughout the election. And now that he won, they are not just undermining him with leaks, but actively subverting him. There’s claims that they’re withholding information from him, on the grounds that they don’t think he should have it and can be trusted with it. They are empowering themselves to enact policy.

“Now, I happen to think that the Trump presidency is extremely dangerous. You just listed off in your news—in your newscast that led the show, many reasons. They want to dismantle the environment. They want to eliminate the safety net. They want to empower billionaires. They want to enact bigoted policies against Muslims and immigrants and so many others. And it is important to resist them. And there are lots of really great ways to resist them, such as getting courts to restrain them, citizen activism and, most important of all, having the Democratic Party engage in self-critique to ask itself how it can be a more effective political force in the United States after it has collapsed on all levels.

"That isn’t what this resistance is now doing. What they’re doing instead is trying to take maybe the only faction worse than Donald Trump, which is the deep state, the CIA, with its histories of atrocities, and say they ought to almost engage in like a soft coup, where they take the elected president and prevent him from enacting his policies. And I think it is extremely dangerous to do that. Even if you’re somebody who believes that both the CIA and the deep state, on the one hand, and the Trump presidency, on the other, are extremely dangerous, as I do, there’s a huge difference between the two, which is that Trump was democratically elected and is subject to democratic controls, as these courts just demonstrated and as the media is showing, as citizens are proving.

"But on the other hand, the CIA was elected by nobody. They’re barely subject to democratic controls at all. And so, to urge that the CIA and the intelligence community empower itself to undermine the elected branches of government is insanity. That is a prescription for destroying democracy overnight in the name of saving it. And yet that’s what so many, not just neocons, but the neocons’ allies in the Democratic Party, are now urging and cheering. And it’s incredibly warped and dangerous to watch them do that.” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46476.htm (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46476.htm)

The United States is now in the extraordinary situation that the liberal/progressive/left is allied with the deep state against democracy. The liberal/progressive/left are lobbying for the impeachment of a president who has committed no impeachable offense. The neoconservatives have stated their preference for a deep state coup against democracy. The media obliges with a constant barrage of lies, innuendos and disinformation. The insouciant American public sits there sucking its thumb.

What can Trump do?

He can clean out the intelligence agencies and terminate their license granted by Bush and Obama to conduct unconstitutional activities. He can use anti-trust to breakup the media conglomerates that Clinton allowed to form. If Bush and Obama can on their own authority subject US citizens to indefinite detention without due process and if Obama can murder suspect US citizens without due process of law, Trump can use anti-trust law to break up the media conglomerates that speak with one voice against him.

At this point Trump has no alternative but to fight. He can take down the secret police agencies and the presstitute media conglomerates, or they will take him down. Dismissing Flynn was the worse thing to do. He should have kept Flynn and fired the “leakers” who are actively using disinformation against him. The NSA would have to know who the leakers are. Trump should clean out the corrupt NSA management and install officials who will identify the leakers. Then Trump should prosecute the leakers to the full extent of the law.

No president can survive secret police agencies determined to destroy him. If Trump’s advisers don’t know this, Trump desperately needs new advisers.

Paul Craig Roberts (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/18/the-stakes-for-trump-and-all-of-us/#more-143599)

[onawah]

That's too easy a way out, and gives you excuses to ignore real problems.
Many environmental groups are not shills to the elites, and are in close contact with people who are being poisoned by environmental toxins.
Try Erin Brockovich then and anyone who lives within a couple hundred miles of a coal mine or plant then.
You will find plenty of truth first hand from ordinary people if that's what you need to convince you, but that takes more work.



There is a long list of articles, and they all arrive at the same conclusions--coal burning is a bad idea, with no real foreseeable future--from Popular Mechanics to any number of environmental groups and genuine research facilities. If you base your conclusions on one source, who's the fool?
Even the elite can't hide the truth about coal, so apparently they aren't even trying anymore.
The real issue isn't "global warming", in any case, it's pollution, and the financial disasters that have come from trying to make coal profitable when there are so many other renewable, cheaper and non-polluting sources of energy now that are obviously working in other countries which are smart enough to invest in them.

Just like the lovely "global warming" scam...

The IEEFA is a globalist front, onawah.

http://ieefa.org/about/


About

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) conducts research and analyses on financial and economic issues related to energy and the environment. The Institute’s mission is to accelerate the transition to a diverse, sustainable and profitable energy economy and to reduce dependence on coal and other non-renewable energy resources.

The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis receives its funding from philanthropic organizations. We gratefully acknowledge our funders, including the Rockefeller Family Fund, Energy Foundation, Mertz-Gilmore Foundation, Moxie Foundation, William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Growald Family Fund, Flora Family Fund, Wallace Global Fund, and V. Kann Rasmussen Foundation.

Surely you cannot expect the veterans around here to take anything a site like this "says is true" to actually be true?

As an example of this type of scam being exposed, maybe you missed this -

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/07/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges.html

Speaking for myself only... a good one to remember is - "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me."


ohhhh, and this post may have been missed -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95959-Know-why-DAPL--the-Dakota-Access-Pipeline--is-going-ahead-anyway...&p=1134318&viewfull=1#post1134318

Here's what has been missed. The sources that are funded by the very same folks who are globalists (NWO folks), folks who are the big time owners of anything that will make them money when the globalists get their way, folks who fund the schools and learning materials (like text books) who indoctrinate (ooops I mean teach) our children "what the facts are" are folks who I do not necessarily trust to be telling me or you or anyone else the truth. THAT is the point.

Remember 97% of the scientists are convinced human derived "global warming" is destroying our planet BS?
(http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425232/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle)

and consider how almost all those "scientists" depend on "grants" provided by these same wealthy globalist families and their "foundations"

and then consider how the data they use is selected and shall we say cherry picked so that "their findings" follow the narrative.

and then we have the whistle blower who blew that claim the world was warming right out of the water. (as I posted)


What I am telling you is that the people you are trusting to be truthful and honest are the same people I have learned lie, lie incessantly and do so to fulfill an agneda which, if you knew the truth of, you would probably be rising up in the streets to stop.

so again...


Fool me once...

and imagine... just imagine that one time something these shills might say might actually be true? How is anyone ever supposed to know? Can you trust someone with their track record?

[turiya]

X22 Reports.... More on the On-Going "American Spring" plans by the Deep State / Banking System / NWO elites... VP Mike Pence & Gen. Mattis receiving their info from Deep State... as Trump presently focuses on domestic policy...


Ex-CIA Says Deep State Planning
'Operation American Spring' For May 2017
Episode 1208
(Published on Feb 19, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwbcbLnr69Q______________________________

Bill Still Report #1506.... Rex Tillerson Cleans House...


Bloodbath at the State Department
#1506
(Published on Feb 18, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3HaUZ1Q_3w

[Chester]

I replied to onawah here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96167-Reply-to-a-PA-member...-Perhaps-we-might-be-Big-Picture-oriented-if-we-really-expect-change&p=1135456#post1135456) in a new thread... I don't wish to dilute or derail this excellent thread and my recent back and forth was doing so - apologies turiya and all readers.

[turiya]

BREAKING NEWS from Bill Still & GotNews.com... White House Leaker nailed....


BOMBSHELL - White House Spy Caught,
Still Report #1511
(Published on Feb 19, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euQnci3q-Ms
_____________________________

GotNews.com

BREAKING: @Reince’s Gal & @WhiteHouse
Chief of Staff @KMWalsh_GOP Is Source
Of Trump Leaks To @NYTimes & Others
(http://gotnews.com/breaking-reinces-gal-whitehouse-chief-staff-kmwalsh_gop-source-trump-leaks-nytimes-others/)
Feb 19, 2017 by GotNews (http://gotnews.com/author/gotnews/)

http://gotnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/trumprinsed740-740x400.png
Left: President Donald J. Trump. Right: White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus.
Photographs by Michael Vadon and by Gage Skidmore, Wikimedia Commons.
White House Deputy Chief of Staff and #NeverTrump Republican (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/281133-rncs-katie-walsh-a-behind-the-scenes-leader) Katie Walsh (http://twitter.com/KMWalsh_GOP) has been identified as the source behind a bunch of leaks from the Trump administration to The New York Times (http://twitter.com/nytimes) and other media outlets, according to multiple sources in the White House (http://twitter.com/whitehouse), media, donor community, and pro-Trump 501(c)4 political group.

“Everyone knows not to talk to her in the White House unless you want to see it in the press,” says a source close to the president. “The only question is whether or not she’s doing it at the behest of [White House Chief of Staff] Reince Priebus (http://twitter.com/reince) or if she’s doing it to advance herself in DC media circles.”

One source in particular stands out:

Walsh is close to Maggie Habberman (http://twitter.com/maggieNYT), a New York Times reporter who wrote fawning pro-Republican National Committee stories during the presidential election. Walsh has also planted stories in The Washington Post and Politico.

Walsh is referred to as “Madame President” in the White House, says a senior aide.
“It isn’t a compliment.”

Walsh would have significant access as she controls the president’s schedule. There’s also reportedly a trove of e-mails where Katie Walsh and Reince Priebus discuss how to rid themselves of Trump, according to a former #NeverTrump consultant.

“The president and his allies have been deliberately feeding her fake information in order to find her network,” says a source close to the president’s family. “It’s been going well.”

Walsh was a #NeverTrump Republican during the campaign. Neither Walsh nor her family were supporters during the campaign, says a source from Walsh’s hometown of St. Louis.

A White House investigation is planned into Walsh, who couldn’t be reached for comment. Stay tuned for more.

GOTNEWS.COM (http://gotnews.com/breaking-reinces-gal-whitehouse-chief-staff-kmwalsh_gop-source-trump-leaks-nytimes-others/)

.

[Eram]

Anyone familiar with Douglas Hagman and his news reports?
Is he reliable in his assessments?

He thinks that a civil war is in the making:
pqueE5Xf0uU

[norman]

Obama's entire 8 years in office were about division and inciting and facilitating trouble in America.

He's hardly likely to walk away from it just as his work was about to come to fruition. Events knocked the match from his hand as he was putting it under the blue touch paper.

In a way, we've been lucky that the establishment were taken so much by surprise by the election of Donald Trump. If they had calculated there was a higher risk of losing, their plans would have been far better put in place for this eventuality. However, as each day goes by, the advantage slips away.


edit:

The plan may well have been to fill up the FEMA camps with what has turned out to be Trump supporters 'losing-it' following a Clinton victory.

Which shoe is on which foot ?

Tread carefully Donald.

[Bill Ryan]

Anyone familiar with Douglas Hagmann and his news reports?
Is he reliable in his assessments?



Yes he is... one of the most reliable reporters and commentators out there.

[KiwiElf]

Priebus... the Judas :) Two down, just a few more to go ;)

[turiya]

Kim Jong Nam Assassination Caught On Tape (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/kim-jong-nam-assassination-caught-tape)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/nk%20killing.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/kim-jong-nam-assassination-caught-tape)
Chilling closed-circuit security footage has emerged of the killing of Kim Jong Nam last week, showing two attackers took less than three seconds to carry out the assault on the half-brother of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

Feb 20, 2017 8:29 AM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sXqD_qBEoo_______________________________________

Russian Ambassador To UN Vitaly Churkin "Suddenly Dies" In New York (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/russian-ambassador-un-vitaly-churkin-suddenly-dies-work-new-york)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/churkin%202.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/russian-ambassador-un-vitaly-churkin-suddenly-dies-work-new-york)
Vitaly Churkin, who served as Russia's permanent representative to the United Nations since 2006, "died suddenly" while at work in New York, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced. Churkin died one day before his 65th birthday.

Feb 20, 2017 12:31 PM

Mattis "We're Not In Iraq To Seize Anybody's Oil" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/mattis-tells-iraq-we-are-not-here-seize-your-oil)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/mattis%20iraq.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/mattis-tells-iraq-we-are-not-here-seize-your-oil)
In the latest distancing by Trump administration advisors from recent statements by the President, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis arrived in Baghdad on an unannounced visit on Monday to discuss the war effort against ISIS, and said that the US military is not in Iraq "to seize anybody’s oil."

Feb 20, 2017 9:57 AM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry-JPdzlKyw_______________________________________


Holland's Wilders Slams "Moroccan Scum" As Paris Over-run By Antifa (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/hollands-wilders-slams-morroccan-scum-paris-over-run-antifa)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170219_paris.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/hollands-wilders-slams-morroccan-scum-paris-over-run-antifa)
Following the under-reported chaos in Paris this week, as muslims and Antifa took over the streets following allegations of police brutality, Holland's outspoken anti-immigrant, anti-EU party leader Geert Wilders promised (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-election-campaign-idUSKBN15W2GT) to crack down on "Moroccan scum" who he said were making the streets unsafe and urged the Dutch to "regain" their country as he launched his election campaign on Saturday.

Feb 20, 2017 3:00 AM


Muslims and Antifa Have Taken Paris
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF-Lof8Qiy4



.

[Helene West]

Isn't it an axiom in some spiritual circles that what you put your concentration on becomes true?

Why do I feel that some love the thoughts and imagery of Civil War? Why can't all the hullabaloo be seen as part of cleaning the swamp? Can we not be the calm ones?
Am I the only one living in a big crowded city that doesn't need to be thinking I'll get murdered or assaulted in getting on a public bus or whatever?
If it remains to be seen that we have irreconcilable differences then let's talk secession, not war. But guess what? Secession is actually much harder work than civil war. Humans are easy to kill and maim. But planning for a left and right america would take a lot of hard work using brains, skills, effort, participation and decision making and there are millions that don't want to work in any capacity, physical, mental, emotional, etc. It's easier to go nuts and rampage.

I hope they have found the leak and that would be a good thing - in no way does it have to be cause for a "bloodbath" as I am reading some hysterical press. Calling DC a swamp was an understatement and if it takes half the term to drain it, fine by me. I'm not overly religious but I see for myself I will have to make a point of holding peaceful images of this country in my mind. I obviously have strong political beliefs but I feel I can have them without getting sucked into the horror of civil war imagery.
More importantly I feel it's a decoy that takes us from focusing on the actual work the current administration is trying to actualize.

As far as Doug Hagmann's veracity and this is only my opinion, though he's a good reporter I find him to be like his friend steve quayle who has been seeing civil war in his sleep for two decades, just too apocalyptic for me. He relocated to montana so maybe he feels safe to put war imagery out there and it's a main reason I no longer listen to quayle who is frequently on hagmann. I tend to see these types as a little selfish after they get to their bunkers, safe houses and prep camps and start putting out this imagery. They're another side of the coin of the hysteric press.
Sorry to sound testy, and I'm not trying to nor can I stop anyone from 'reporting' on this type of news, but i see the words civil war and I start getting ticked off on several levels. thx

[turiya]

Isn't it an axiom in some spiritual circles that what you put your concentration on becomes true?

Why do I feel that some love the thoughts and imagery of Civil War? Why can't all the hullabaloo be seen as part of cleaning the swamp? Can we not be the calm ones?
Am I the only one living in a big crowded city that doesn't need to be thinking I'll get murdered or assaulted in getting on a public bus or whatever?
[...snip...]
Sorry to sound testy, and I'm not trying to nor can I stop anyone from 'reporting' on this type of news, but i see the words civil war and I start getting ticked off on several levels. thx

Yes, that 'axiom' comes from...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51cFV6qAX-L._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

But I suppose, that the opposite is also true - The Power of Negative Thought...
Some may call it The Law of Attaction...

Scott Adams has written an article that flows along a similar line... it goes along the line that those left-wing-libtards, who keep rioting with banners of Trump being Hitler, well... they just may get exactly what they wish for... I've placed the article in Post #86 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1134495&viewfull=1#post1134495)... Either click on the highlighted post # or the title of the article (below)...


Be Careful What
You Wish For
(especially if it is Hitler) (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/01/29/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-especially-if-it-is-hitler/#more-141973)

Posted on January 29, 2017
Guest Post by Scott Adams


.

[Helene West]

Yes, thx, the Scott Adams premise is the page i guess I'm on.
and thx for the reminder of NVP.

Instead of dousing the rioters with pepper spray maybe we need to helicopter some Norman Vincent Peale and Dale Carnegie books on them.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Alarmingly, the Purple Revolution is getting more real by the day as it plays out in living color and during prime time.



I immediately reacted to the Clinton's attire at her concession speech and felt it was a clue.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Zt_oGTm4I

[Eram]

Isn't it an axiom in some spiritual circles that what you put your concentration on becomes true?

Why do I feel that some love the thoughts and imagery of Civil War? Why can't all the hullabaloo be seen as part of cleaning the swamp? Can we not be the calm ones?
Am I the only one living in a big crowded city that doesn't need to be thinking I'll get murdered or assaulted in getting on a public bus or whatever?
If it remains to be seen that we have irreconcilable differences then let's talk secession, not war. But guess what? Secession is actually much harder work than civil war. Humans are easy to kill and maim. But planning for a left and right america would take a lot of hard work using brains, skills, effort, participation and decision making and there are millions that don't want to work in any capacity, physical, mental, emotional, etc. It's easier to go nuts and rampage.

I hope they have found the leak and that would be a good thing - in no way does it have to be cause for a "bloodbath" as I am reading some hysterical press. Calling DC a swamp was an understatement and if it takes half the term to drain it, fine by me. I'm not overly religious but I see for myself I will have to make a point of holding peaceful images of this country in my mind. I obviously have strong political beliefs but I feel I can have them without getting sucked into the horror of civil war imagery.
More importantly I feel it's a decoy that takes us from focusing on the actual work the current administration is trying to actualize.

As far as Doug Hagmann's veracity and this is only my opinion, though he's a good reporter I find him to be like his friend steve quayle who has been seeing civil war in his sleep for two decades, just too apocalyptic for me. He relocated to montana so maybe he feels safe to put war imagery out there and it's a main reason I no longer listen to quayle who is frequently on hagmann. I tend to see these types as a little selfish after they get to their bunkers, safe houses and prep camps and start putting out this imagery. They're another side of the coin of the hysteric press.
Sorry to sound testy, and I'm not trying to nor can I stop anyone from 'reporting' on this type of news, but i see the words civil war and I start getting ticked off on several levels. thx

I hope that you are right and that Hagman and others project their own fears on the situation and create a distorted picture with it.

I'm not sure what to make of all the we see happening as a reaction on the Trump presidency, yet logic tells me that Trump made some powerful enemies who are not amused with him at all.
Logic also tells me that at least the globalists don't have a civil war high on the wish list. They prefer stability in the US, since it is their means of power over the rest of the world.

Yet, they want him out, or neutralized. Badly.
He already killed the TPP.

I'm convinced that if they thought to be able to get away with his assassination without causing civil war, they would do it instantly.

[Chester]

Alarmingly, the Purple Revolution is getting more real by the day as it plays out in living color and during prime time.



I immediately reacted to the Clinton's attire at her concession speech and felt it was a clue.


Yep - pretty obvious the message...

see here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1113622&viewfull=1#post1113622) and trace back to Herve's post.

[Helene West]

Oh well, it's getting towards the end of the business day and I thought we'd hear more on the Katie Walsh leak story. Guess it's not her after all? damn....

[Chester]

At this level, its a leverage game... if they have the goods on Katie Walsh, meaning if they have irrefutable proof, they may be leveraging how that info is used... perhaps sitting on it serves a higher purpose.

Of course also... it could be fake news "they" hoped some advocate of importance to the Trump administration would run with so that the stupidity in doing so could then be exploited.

[turiya]

'Rogue' Border Agents Resist Trump Orders, Continue Obama's 'Catch-And-Release' Policy (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/rogue-border-agents-resist-trump-orders-continue-obamas-catch-and-release-policy)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170219_border.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/rogue-border-agents-resist-trump-orders-continue-obamas-catch-and-release-policy)
"We’re still walking people out the door...The catch-and-release policy is still in place in some sectors."

Feb 19, 2017 6:20 PM

Who's Really Behind The Soft-Coup? Obama-Founded Activist Group Offers Anti-Trump Protest "Guide" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/whos-really-behind-soft-coup-obama-founded-activist-group-offers-anti-trump-protest-)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170219_obama.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/whos-really-behind-soft-coup-obama-founded-activist-group-offers-anti-trump-protest-)
A script advises callers to complain: "I'm honestly scared that a known racist and anti-Semite will be working just feet from the Oval Office... It is everyone’s business if a man who promoted white supremacy is serving as an adviser to the president."

Feb 19, 2017 9:50 PM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a46tnnJqG4k

Trump Names Lt. Gen. HR McMaster As National Security Adviser (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/trumps-picks-retired-general-mcmaster-national-security-adviser)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/mcmaster%20teaser.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/trumps-picks-retired-general-mcmaster-national-security-adviser)
President Donald Trump has named Lieutenant General Herbert Raymond McMaster to be his new national security adviser, again turning to the U.S. military to play a central role on his foreign policy team. Trump also named Keith Kellogg, a retired U.S. Army General, as chief of staff to the National Security Council.

Feb 20, 2017 4:13 PM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HfPUpiT4tg__________________________

The NY Times Asks "How Can We Get Rid Of Trump?" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/ny-times-asks-how-we-can-get-rid-trump)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170220_trump.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/ny-times-asks-how-we-can-get-rid-trump)
A desperate cry for help from The New York Times: "is there any way out?"

Feb 20, 2017 11:09 AM

[BMJ]

Yes, thx, the Scott Adams premise is the page i guess I'm on.
and thx for the reminder of NVP.

Instead of dousing the rioters with pepper spray maybe we need to helicopter some Norman Vincent Peale and Dale Carnegie books on them.

An aerial drop of the books would be a good idea it might hit them on the head and knock some sense into them. :happythumbsup:

Seriously, for a "very long time" the media and even the alternative media have been banging on about WW3, civil war in America and a mega financial collapse.

I'm still waiting.

And as you suggested Helene it does seem tptw need our focus to be on those topics to get the ball rolling.

Thankfully the consesus of humanity suggests we are just not at all interested in these concepts.


Thanks for the offer tptw, but no thanks, move along please. :sun:

[turiya]

Obama's Secret Service Director Suddenly Resigns
Still Report #1498
(Published on Feb 14, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cma0Uf4HctE______________________________

Enquirer: Obama's Plan to Impeach Trump
Still Report #1499
(Published on Feb 15, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBYxkO0WOhM______________________________

[turiya]

X22 NEWS REPORTS...


The Economic Recovery Illusion Is About To Be
Exposed Via The Corporate Media
Episode 1209a
(Published on Feb 20, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byG9E3DWlko______________________________

White House Leakers In The
Process Of Being Exposed
Episode 1209b
(Published on Feb 20, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fudNpiePJU______________________________

[BMJ]

Trump The Inspiration Meets The Movement

lqoqQNbJyhk

Eugene was first in line at the Trump Florida Rally, he got there at 4.00am, and he explains as to why he was inspired to do so.

Also the reporter from CNN (Clinton News Network) owns the "Fake News" label.

Question so if CNN now own the label of "Fake News", then would not that make CNN as useful as a refrigerator would be to an eskimo? :sun:

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Seriously, for a "very long time" the media and even the alternative media have been banging on about WW3, civil war in America and a mega financial collapse.

I'm still waiting.

Trump getting elected prevented a civil war. I went with my cousin shopping for guns on election day (he's a security guard and needed a handgun for work). We stopped at two different gun stores and business was booming in both of them. It was because of the election and fear that Hillary would win and move to start taking guns from our citizens, which she made it clear she wanted to do. These people knew she wanted their guns and they didn't look like they were planning to hand them over gently. I didn't have to guess their motives either because they were all talking about it openly.

Conservatives are still going out in camo, killing deer and bears and eating them, as a hobby, all across the interior of America. There is a world of difference there and if I was going to piss one of these groups off, I might have to put up with a lot of mouth, but I'd still rather rile up a bunch of SJWs and metrosexuals than I would a bunch of gun-toting manly men.



Also the reporter from CNN (Clinton News Network) owns the "Fake News" label.

Question so if CNN now own the label of "Fake News", then would not that make CNN as useful as a refrigerator would be to an eskimo? :sun:

This just goes to show how much of a marketing genius Trump is. The corporate media invented the term "fake news" to smear Pizzagate and now most people probably don't even remember that. He has turned that phrase around to utterly destroy CNN's image.


I like Mark Dice's "crap" acronyms too:

CNN = Crap News Network
CBS = Crap Broadcasting Station
ABC = Always Broadcasting Crap
NBC = Nothing But Crap
AP = Associated Piss

:biggrin1:

[turiya]

Alex covers [@ 1:17] the "letting-go" of White House Security Advisor, Craig Deare...


Dr. Jerome Corsi: Polls Are Skewed,
News Are Fake And Media Is Contrived
(Published on Feb 21, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=017M_XIMiBM_______________________________



NSC Official Fired For Criticizing Trump (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/nsc-official-fired-criticizing-trump)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/craig%20deare.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/nsc-official-fired-criticizing-trump)
The Trump admin abruptly terminated a senior National Security Council aide on Friday days after criticizing President Donald Trump and senior White House officials, including son-in-law Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka Trump at a private event hosted by a Washington think tank.

Feb 19, 2017 3:25 PM

What makes the Deare resignation notable is that he is not a holdover from the Obama administration, but came to the NSC after Trump's inauguration from National Defense University, where he had served as the dean of administration and was selected for the role by Michael Flynn, who resigned as Trump’s national security adviser on Feb. 13, resulting in a state of "controlled chaos" among Trump's top security advisors, and leading in a scramble to find a replacement.

According to Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/white-house-nsc-aide-craig-deare-dismissed-235175), at a private, off-the-record roundtable hosted by the Woodrow Wilson Center for a group of about two dozen scholars earlier in the week, Deare harshly criticized the president and his chief strategist Steve Bannon and railed against the dysfunction paralyzing the Trump White House, according to a source familiar with the situation.

"He complained in particular that senior national security aides do not have access to the president - and gave a detailed and embarrassing readout of Trump's call with Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto." Some have speculated that he may have been the source of the leaked conversation between Trump and the Mexican president which led to a media furore several weeks ago.

According to Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-18/nsc-official-fired-after-reportedly-criticizing-trump-top-aides), a second official familiar with the situation said Deare was released from his NSC position but not removed from the U.S. government. He was recruited to the security council, part of the president’s executive office, from the National Defense University and will return to his post there, the official said.

Deare’s biography (http://cisa.ndu.edu/About/Faculty-and-Staff/Article-View/Article/566868/craig-e-deare-phd/)shows he’s been on the faculty of the professional military university since 2001. He joined the university’s College of International Security Affairs in 2010 and most recently served as dean of administration.


_____________________________



.

[BMJ]

Seriously, for a "very long time" the media and even the alternative media have been banging on about WW3, civil war in America and a mega financial collapse.

I'm still waiting.

Trump getting elected prevented a civil war. I went with my cousin shopping for guns on election day (he's a security guard and needed a handgun for work). We stopped at two different gun stores and business was booming in both of them. It was because of the election and fear that Hillary would win and move to start taking guns from our citizens, which she made it clear she wanted to do. These people knew she wanted their guns and they didn't look like they were planning to hand them over gently. I didn't have to guess their motives either because they were all talking about it openly.

Conservatives are still going out in camo, killing deer and bears and eating them, as a hobby, all across the interior of America. There is a world of difference there and if I was going to piss one of these groups off, I might have to put up with a lot of mouth, but I'd still rather rile up a bunch of SJWs and metrosexuals than I would a bunch of gun-toting manly men.

Hi AVFTM, :highfive:
Regardless of politics taking on the largest civilian armed force in world, that is the American people, that is fight you would have to consider very very very carefully before engaging in, as the odds would be staked with the people.

Agreed, Trump is the reason the USA adverted a possible civil war also WW3 with Russia and financial implosion. Putin and Trump want ISIL and not WW3. Hence The Trump Reset, back to topic. :bigsmile:

[turiya]

Trump Slams 'Fake News' Lies That Sweden's Mass Immigration "Is Working Out Just Beautifully" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/trump-slams-fake-news-lies-swedens-mass-immigration-working-out-just-beautifully)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170220_sweden_0.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/trump-slams-fake-news-lies-swedens-mass-immigration-working-out-just-beautifully)
"Give the public a break - The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!"

Feb 20, 2017 9:31 AM


Tucker Carlson speaks out
on Trump's 'Sweden' remark
(Published on Feb 20, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BlKkd21zhI_______________________________________

Sweden's Million-Dollar Refugee Industry
(Published on Feb 20, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYNKufXhWGg_______________________________________

Swedish Citizen: "Trump Is Right About Sweden" |
Fake News Fails Again
(Published on Feb 20, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL18ZztkM58_______________________________________


http://www.billkassel.com/wp-content/uploads/logos/Breitbart-Logo.jpg
Sweden Riots: Looting, Cars Torched, Police Attacked in Migrant Suburb (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/21/sweden-cars-torched-looting-riots/)

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/02/SWEDEN-RINKEBY-RIOTS-FEBRUARY-2017-420x315.jpg (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/21/sweden-cars-torched-looting-riots/)
Riots broke out on Monday night in the suburb of Rinkeby, where a majority of residents were born overseas, just hours after the country’s Prime Minister attacked U.S President Donald J. Trump for linking mass migration with rising violence in Sweden.

by Virginia Hale (http://www.breitbart.com/author/vhale/)
21 Feb 2017

[David Ansible]

Anyone familiar with Douglas Hagmann and his news reports?
Is he reliable in his assessments?



Yes he is... one of the most reliable reporters and commentators out there.

Hmm, I remember him having meetings w/ an individual calling himself "Rosebud" who supposedly worked for DHS and
disclosed imminent collapse or something (that's probably not exactly the scenario; I don't remember all the details). There
was considerable cloak and dagger involved - meeting under lampposts in the dead of night (or close enough). I suspect
significant "artistic license" in the portrayal. The whole thing was very discrediting in my opinion.

[turiya]

Russian hackers prank calls to various establishment Congressional members...


Russian hackers prank phone call
to senator McCain
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqrw2vIvBv0_______________________________

Russian hackers prank call
to senator Lindsey Graham
(Published on Feb 17, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LlSP9b_k-g_______________________________

Russian hackers play phone prank
on fool Democrat Maxine Waters
(Published on Feb 13, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiu7eSSM_4Q

[turiya]

Former CIA Agent Explains Why He Resigned Because Of Trump (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/former-cia-agent-explains-why-he-resigned-because-trump)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170221_CIA.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/former-cia-agent-explains-why-he-resigned-because-trump)
"I didn’t think I’d ever leave the CIA. But because of Trump, I quit."

Feb 21, 2017 9:30 AM


Why I left the CIA: 'There is a strong
feeling of demoralization' under Trump
(Published on Feb 21, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvJFBHPkLUk_____________________________

Rand Paul Blasts McCain Over Perpetual War: "He Would Bankrupt The Nation" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/rand-paul-blasts-mccain-over-perpetual-war-he-would-bankrupt-nation)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170221_mccain.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/rand-paul-blasts-mccain-over-perpetual-war-he-would-bankrupt-nation)
"John McCain’s been wrong on just about everything over the last four decades... He would bankrupt the nation. We’re very lucky he’s not in charge, because I think we’d be in perpetual war,”

Feb 21, 2017 6:05 PM


McCain Criticizes Trump, Rand Paul
Grateful McCain ISN'T President
(Published on Feb 20, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xK66J9hTw_____________________________

DHS Issues Sweeping New Rules On Deportation Of Illegal Immigrants (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/new-dhs-memos-reveal-almost-anyone-living-us-illegally-now-subject-deportation)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/illegal%20aliens.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/new-dhs-memos-reveal-almost-anyone-living-us-illegally-now-subject-deportation)
Almost everybody living in the U.S. illegally is now subject to deportation, and more undocumented arrivals at the southern border would be jailed or sent back to Mexico to await a hearing rather than released into the U.S., under memos issued Tuesday by the Department of Homeland Security.

Feb 21, 2017 5:35 PM


Bannon Breaks With Pence, Delivers Warning To Europe (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/bannon-breaks-pence-delivers-warning-europe)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/bannon%20pence.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/bannon-breaks-pence-delivers-warning-europe)
In the week before VP Mike Pence visited Brussels and pledged America's "steadfast and enduring" commitment to the European Union, Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon met with the German ambassador and delivered a different message. Bannon, according to Reuters' sources, signalled to Germany's ambassador to Washington "that he viewed the EU as a flawed construct and favoured conducting relations with Europe on a bilateral basis."

Feb 21, 2017 12:36 PM


_____________________________








http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_4.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/834181712783560705)
The so-called angry crowds in home districts of
some Republicans are actually, in numerous
cases, planned out by liberal activists. Sad!

3:23 PM - 21 Feb 2017



... In response to...

http://cdn.jabezlebret.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/NPR-Author-Jabez.png
Politics
New York Republican Rep. Tom Reed
Faces Angry Crowds, Deep In Trump Country (http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/516064707/new-york-republican-rep-tom-reed-faces-angry-crowds-deep-in-trump-country)

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/shared/npr/styles/placed_wide/nprshared/201702/516096968.jpg

February 19, 2017 7:58 AM ET
Jessica Taylor


.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Demoralization of the criminal Deep State within the CIA, not the patriotic rank and file who gave Trump the standing ovation when he spoke at Langley.

[norman]

There's a full scale assault going on against everything Trump, including all alt media.

Alex Jones has just lost 3.5 million from youtube advertising. Paul Watson is next....


Alex is spitting feathers, and, unusually for him, dropped a massive F bomb on air.

[turiya]

Demoralization of the criminal Deep State within the CIA, not the patriotic rank and file who gave Trump the standing ovation when he spoke at Langley.
It seems you read my mind, A Voice from the Mountains...
I was going to add my 2 cents to what this guy was expressing, but decided to withhold it.

And that was.... it must have been demoralizing to the blokes that saw the power of the agency being diminished... like sand sifting through one's fingers... This guy, Edward Price, must have been close to the administration officials that did not like their so-called "authority" / "control" positions being put in their proper place.

Yeah, I guess you can call it - "the draining of the swamp!" ...to a certain degree.
Just move along, Ed, and try to make a better life for yourself...

[turiya]

There's a full scale assault going on against everything Trump, including all alt media.

Alex Jones has just lost 3.5 million from youtube advertising. Paul Watson is next....


Alex is spitting feathers, and, unusually for him, dropped a massive F bomb on air.

Yeah, norman... I guess that bribe that was offered to the Health Ranger - Mike Adams - by the libtard-left-Soros funded progressives is coming into fruition... Just hang in there Alex, you got nothing to worry about, imo....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sv2oZHPng0_________________________

More sad ridiculousness....



Florida Teacher "Reassigned" After Facebook Post Praising Trump On Immigration (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/florida-teacher-reassigned-after-facebook-post-praising-trump-immigration)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/2017.02.21%20-%20VF.JPG (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/florida-teacher-reassigned-after-facebook-post-praising-trump-immigration)
"The funny part about immigrants staying home is the rest of us who pay for them are here at work like we've always been. Looks like less mouths to feed today. Have fun while you still can. So glad to hear about massive deportation. Let's make America great again. Thanks Donald Trump!!"

Feb 21, 2017 7:20 PM

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2017/02/21/2017.02.21%20-%20VF%20FB_0.JPG

A Racist Rant... Unbelievable...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6v3LuQKdjE




.

[turiya]

X22 Reports...


Here Are Multiple Signs That Indicate
That The US Is In A Recession
Episode 1210a
(Published on Feb 21, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSYP1TgHatY_______________________________

Is The Deep State Slowly
Eliminating Russian Diplomats?
Episode 1210b
(Published on Feb 21, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRwQCTMhTPE

[turiya]

Trump: 'I Inherited A Mess'
(Published on Feb 16, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npnARPRJIUY__________________________


https://i1.wp.com/comicincorrect.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/A-Mess-NRD-600.jpg


WHAT CHAOS? (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/21/what-chaos/)

http://comicincorrect.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Fine-Tuned-600-LI.jpg
Via Branco (http://comicallyincorrect.com/2017/02/20/what-chaos/)

[turiya]

CLIF HIGH: WE STAND AT THE CUSP,
THE REST IS UP TO US
(Published on Feb 19, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LCi39NgOEAPedo-gate Info:


@ENDIT (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENDIT?src=hash)
@Notmanipulated7 (https://twitter.com/notmanipulated7?lang=en)
@Zanting
(https://twitter.com/zanting?lang=en)
@demexit (https://twitter.com/hashtag/demexit)
@dawngpsalm63 (https://twitter.com/dawngpsalm63?lang=en)
@ThomasBernpaine (https://twitter.com/thomasbernpaine/status/826806397937463297)

[KiwiElf]

Trump Was Right: CNN Forced to Pay Lawsuit Over Fake News
Tuesday, February 21, 2017 18:43

(Before It's News)
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2017/02/trump-was-right-cnn-forced-to-pay-lawsuit-over-fake-news-3252183.html

http://google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?tpl=safari&site=theblacksphere.net&hl=en-us

The media response to President Trump’s accusations of false reporting has been to accuse the president of being against a free and independent press.

Journalist Chris Wallace complained on Fox News Sunday this week that an adversarial press is necessary to the republic. But there’s a big difference between “adversarial” and a press that flatly creates fake news.

A Case in Point
The courts are finally punishing CNN for at least one of their fake news stories that caused real harm.

David Carbone, former CEO of St. Mary’s Medical Center in West Palm Beach, Florida won his lawsuit against CNN for their fake news and false statistics.

Carbone alleged that CNN “intentionally” manipulated statistics and purposely ignored information that would look favorable to the hospital. Because of CNN’s negligence, Carbone was fired.

The statistics in question involved CNN falsifying infant mortality rates at the hospital in order to sensationalize reports.

His attorney L. Lin Wood stated,

“In our case, we contended that CNN essentially made up its own standard in order to conduct an ‘apples to oranges’ comparison to support its false assertion that St. Mary’s mortality rate was 3 times higher than the national average. Accordingly, the case against CNN certainly fits the description of media-created ‘Fake News.’”

Federal District Judge Orinda Evans agreed, and ruled that Carbone’s accusation that CNN “purposely skewed statistics to reflect poorly on a West Palm Beach hospital” had merit.

Fake news has consequences, and frankly should be an embarrassment to the journalism profession.

Judge Evans commented that CNN may have acted with “actual malice.”

Former CEO of St. Mary’s Medical Center wins fake news lawsuit against CNN

As stated earlier, Carbone lost his job. Moreover, it became extremely difficult for him to find new employment in hospital administration because of CNN’s reputation-damaging report.

Wood also declared:

“False and defamatory accusations against real people have serious consequences. Neither St. Mary’s or Mr. Carbone did anything to deserve being the objects of the heinous accusation that they harmed or put babies and young children at risk for profit.”

CNN Lawsuit: Legal Accountability

CNN tried to get the case dismissed. But Judge Evans found grounds for Carbone’s defamation claim. Her order reads in part:

“The Court finds these allegations sufficient to establish that CNN was acting recklessly with regard to the accuracy of its report, i.e., with ‘actual malice.’”

The Clown News Network is losing more than just the public’s trust, they’re finally being held legally accountable as well. At this rate, CNN may find itself on the junk heap of journalism AND broke.

[turiya]

Chris Wallace just doesn't get it!


Chris Wallace GRILLS REINCE PRIEBUS:
"THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE IN DICTATORSHIPS!"
(Published on Feb 19, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uGDXtytihA

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/pmpm9.png

Special CIA insider passed this world shattering report to Warmonger Songbird McCain for his speech to Congress...

[turiya]

Hands Of Kim Jong Nam's Killers Were "Coated With Mystery Poison" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/hands-kim-jong-nams-killers-were-coated-mystery-poison)

http://zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/LOL%20woman.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/hands-kim-jong-nams-killers-were-coated-mystery-poison)
As the Malaysian police pieces together the clues of last week's dramatic assassination of Kim Jong-Un's brother, in a press conference this morning officials said that the two women suspected in the fatal poisoning attack were trained to coat their hands with toxic chemicals, then wipe them on his face,

Feb 22, 2017 8:07 AM
MSNBC Anchor: "Our Job" Is To "Control Exactly What People Think" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/msnbc-anchor-admits-our-job-control-exactly-what-people-think)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170222_msnbc.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/msnbc-anchor-admits-our-job-control-exactly-what-people-think)
During a lively discussion centered on fears that President Trump is "trying to undermine the media," MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski let slip the awesome unspoken truth that the media's "job" is to "actually control exactly what people think."

Feb 22, 2017 8:35 AM

"That's Our Job!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9ce-yMEfc

Trump To Revoke Obama's Transgender Bathroom Rule (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/trump-revoke-obamas-transgeneder-bathroom-rule)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170222_trans.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/trump-revoke-obamas-transgeneder-bathroom-rule)
'He, she, and ze' will be not be happy. The Trump administration is set to revoke President Obama's controversial transgender bathroom rules.

Feb 22, 2017 12:04 PM

A States' Rights Issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glD4G6nHq60

Gallup Finds Americans' Hostility To Russia Soared After Obama's 2012 Re-Election (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/gallup-finds-americans-hostility-russia-soared-after-obamas-2012-re-election)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170221_obama2.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/gallup-finds-americans-hostility-russia-soared-after-obamas-2012-re-election)
No other nation has plunged even nearly as steeply in Americans’ favorability as did Russia, during Obama’s second term. What is especially important to note regarding the plunge in Americans’ approval-rating for Russia is that it didn’t occur only after, but started well before, those events in Ukraine in 2014; it started at the very end of Obama’s first term, in 2012.

Feb 22, 2017 5:00 A
Guess Which Country The Man Behind California's Secession Movement Lives In? (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/guess-which-country-man-behind-californias-secession-movement) (Hint: He's from Russia)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170222_calexit.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/guess-which-country-man-behind-californias-secession-movement) http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/~/media/Images/faculty/Strategic-Initiatives/kppi/2016/12292017-age-of-trump.ashx
“A lot of misinformation goes out about us, such as I know President Vladimir Putin or work in the Kremlin,”

Feb 22, 2017 9:59 AM
Martin Schultz Wants To Give Refugees The Right To Vote In German Election (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/martin-schultz-wants-give-refugees-right-vote-german-election)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20170222%29schulz.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-22/martin-schultz-wants-give-refugees-right-vote-german-election)
The likelihood of Germany dividing North v South is extremely high. This entire refugee issue was bad enough. For the SPD to try to give them votes to take control will set off an internal German civil war.

Feb 22, 2017 9:20 AM


.

[turiya]

Malkin: The left are trying to
criminalize political dissent
(Published on Feb 22, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq5TlkCCvbQ

[Eram]

Former campaign manager for Bill Clinton's second term presidency Dick Morris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris) and now turned harsh criticaster of the Clintons has an interesting analyses of Trumps presidency so far.
Also the way that the left tries to disorganize Trumps presidency and very interesting: His take on why Hillary Clinton and her minions are so quiet! :)

kODEdqJLyw4

Here's Dick morris own youtube channel. (https://www.youtube.com/user/dickmorrisreports/featured)

Edit to add another one of his youtubes.
This one about education secretary DeVos and why the democrats fear her so much.

s3PVDMocrbg

The reason I try to bring Dick Morris to your (the readers of this thread) attention is because I place extra value in people who have worked deep within the system of power (Like Paul Craig Roberts and Ron Paul) and therefore have a better understanding of what, why and how things work and play out in the political arena.

[BMJ]

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/pmpm9.png

Special CIA insider passed this world shattering report to Warmonger Songbird McCain for his speech to Congress...

Well if:
- Pelosi believes Bush is president and does not support him.
- Waters believes that Putin invaded Korea, North or South Korea does not matter it is all the same country.
- McCain might well believe that Putin murdered Jesus. (I realize it is a joke).

I can not believe these people are Senators, I'll give this a William Tompkinson "WOW do you believe that". :facepalm:




Demoralization of the criminal Deep State within the CIA, not the patriotic rank and file who gave Trump the standing ovation when he spoke at Langley.
And alot of these CIA guys came in on their day off, shows you the support and interest the CIA good guys have in "The Don".
By the way the Langley HQ would look better without the columns, (referring to the fifth column), now that "The Don" and the team are taking up the cause and taking the fight to tptw.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Putin created time travel to go bump off Jesus, not wanting anyone from history not even the Messiah to be liked more than him.

Hilary, being a shapeshifting alien sucks the brains from those around her for energy.

Pelocy, Waters and John McCain have all paid a heavy price...

[Chester]

:offtopic:

A kind request - let's please stay on topic...

[turiya]

O'Keefe Drops "Bombshell" Undercover Footage From Within CNN (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-23/okeefe-drops-bombshell-undercover-video-footage-within-fake-news-cnn)

http://zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/keefe%20teaser.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-23/okeefe-drops-bombshell-undercover-video-footage-within-fake-news-cnn)
O'Keefe drops 200 hours of audio footage from inside CNN and offers $10,000 award to anyone who comes forward with legally obtained audio or video footage exposing media malfeasance

Feb 23, 2017 10:04 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-0_dFnl-Y
Bannon Lashes Out At The Media: "They're Not Going To Give The Country Back Without A Fight" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-23/bannon-priebus-speak-cpac-live-feed)

http://zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/bannon%20priebus.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-23/bannon-priebus-speak-cpac-live-feed)
"[Trump] is going to continue to press his agenda as economic conditions get better, as jobs get better, they are going to continue to fight. If they think they are going to give you your country back without a fight, you are mistaken. Every day, it is going to be a fight."

Feb 23, 2017 2:31 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHSlhKc_X8Y

Kellyanne Conway Blasts CNN Reports That She's Been "Benched" From TV Appearances (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-23/kellyanne-conway-blasts-cnn-reports-shes-been-benched-tv-appearances)

http://zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/Kellyanne%20Conway3_1.JPG (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-23/kellyanne-conway-blasts-cnn-reports-shes-been-benched-tv-appearances)
"I’m not. I mean, somebody’s trying to start up trouble. About 5 percent of what I’m being asked to do in this White House counselor role is TV."

Feb 23, 2017 2:27 PM

[Helene West]

I'm a little surprised at the lack of interest in the forum regarding the March 4th upcoming marches4trump.
I just shut off robert david steele, this time on Greg Hunter, this guy is really making the rounds on alt media. the way he describes what he thinks the anti-trump march in May is going to be like, ripping DC apart, trump is as good as resigned.
I believe the type of people who voted for trump are not the demonstrator type, they work really hard and they're tired and though I think the March 4th marches may have a decent turnout they won't be as large as the ones featuring the Soros paid provocateurs and the ignorant youth who seem to have a lot of time on their hands. And the media will probably make the March 4th marches look even smaller than they are and the May anti march huge.

[norman]

I'm a little surprised at the lack of interest in the forum regarding the March 4th upcoming marches4trump.
I just shut off robert david steele, this time on Greg Hunter, this guy is really making the rounds on alt media. the way he describes what he thinks the anti-trump march in May is going to be like, ripping DC apart, trump is as good as resigned.
I believe the type of people who voted for trump are not the demonstrator type, they work really hard and they're tired and though I think the March 4th marches may have a decent turnout they won't be as large as the ones featuring the Soros paid provocateurs and the ignorant youth who seem to have a lot of time on their hands. And the media will probably make the March 4th marches look even smaller than they are and the May anti march huge.

If the Trump supporters stay home, there will only be one group of nutters to fill up the FEMA camps with. Otherwise it will be war in the streets and we all know who would then be the baddies.


And anyway, the media wouldn't cover it, any more than they covered the MASSIVE ! demos by the Syrians in support of their leader.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Police are Trump supporters too and you can bet they'll be both at work and at those marches, at the same time! ;)

They thought they were going to unleash holy hell on the inauguration too and instead you have 200 people arrested on charges such as domestic terrorism, and I think they absolutely deserve it. You can't preach democracy and practice fascism, and destroying a city and beating people for your political ideology is freaking fascism. These people are so brainwashed that they are creating the exact problem they imagine themselves to be "resisting."

[norman]

Police are Trump supporters too and you can bet they'll be both at work and at those marches, at the same time! ;)

They thought they were going to unleash holy hell on the inauguration too and instead you have 200 people arrested on charges such as domestic terrorism, and I think they absolutely deserve it. You can't preach democracy and practice fascism, and destroying a city and beating people for your political ideology is freaking fascism. These people are so brainwashed that they are creating the exact problem they imagine themselves to be "resisting."

Their orchestrators don't care a damn how stupid and hypocritical they all are. They only care about the dynamics, as always. They want to bring about a situation like a third world toppling, where Trump has to concede that the country is ungovernable with him as the President.

[Helene West]

Police are Trump supporters too and you can bet they'll be both at work and at those marches, at the same time! ;)

They thought they were going to unleash holy hell on the inauguration too and instead you have 200 people arrested on charges such as domestic terrorism, and I think they absolutely deserve it. You can't preach democracy and practice fascism, and destroying a city and beating people for your political ideology is freaking fascism. These people are so brainwashed that they are creating the exact problem they imagine themselves to be "resisting."

Agreed on all that but our government is so corrupt and so full of bought pawns there are those that will try to spin something positive about the rioters and leverage them to get rid of trump. I can even see the propaganda press trying to spin the rioters as the patriots, things are that nuts. The rioters in and of themselves don't worry me it's those in authority, politicians and media giants, who will try to leverage the riots that are the worry.
In a way I wish there was not going to be any March4trump marches. Our globalist pedophile aristocracy could pull a false flag shooting at one of them....
Anyhow I always appreciate your optimism...

[Chester]

Police are Trump supporters too and you can bet they'll be both at work and at those marches, at the same time! ;)

They thought they were going to unleash holy hell on the inauguration too and instead you have 200 people arrested on charges such as domestic terrorism, and I think they absolutely deserve it. You can't preach democracy and practice fascism, and destroying a city and beating people for your political ideology is freaking fascism. These people are so brainwashed that they are creating the exact problem they imagine themselves to be "resisting."

Their orchestrators don't care a damn how stupid and hypocritical they all are. They only care about the dynamics, as always. They want to bring about a situation like a third world toppling, where Trump has to concede that the country is ungovernable with him as the President.

A losing belief as there's too many "awake and aware and sane" folks here in the US...

And also, each and everyday, more and more people do see their lives improving.... yes, already improving. So this means each and every day more and more folks are glad Trump was elected and are ready to help in any way they can such that the agenda promises are all fulfilled. Just about everyone knows the score with what is behind these "protests" and why they are happening, why the one's who go too far simply end up with legal problems and why there's not a single reason to worry that any of this will go anywhere.

Today Bret Baier said to Ted Cruz, "To look at the left and the reaction to these first days... it's significant... a big push back." And then he played a clip where Ellison is stating Trump must be impeached... and Baier asks, "And so what do you say to that?"

Cruz replies, "Well, I think a lot of Washington Democrats are... [and he hesitates a sec then continues]... are out of their minds. They are in a state of denial and they're in a state of rage. They're really angry, they're angry not at Republicans... not even at Trump. They are angry at the American people, they're angry at the voters. 'How dare you elect a Republican President and Republican majorities in both houses.' I am calling it Trump Derangement Syndrome... I mean they are out of their minds."

I will post the video tomorrow - Cruz nails it.

This link leads to the video auto-opens (at least for me) -

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/ted-cruz-odds-are-very-good-supreme-court-vacancy-this-summer.html

[turiya]

Steve Bannon & Reince Priebus Panel at CPAC.... a Key Bannon moment...


If You Think They're Gonna Give Your Country
Back Without a Fight, You're Sadly Mistaken
(Published Feb 23, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NipPbo1Jkpc

[turiya]

Cross-posted on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump)...


Trump and the Possibility
of Civil War in America (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/22/neil-howe-on-steve-bannon-trump-and-the-possibility-of-civil-war-in-america/#more-143840)

Hat tip Tommy
Guest Post by Jonathan Roth (http://www.riskhedge.com/author/jonathan-roth)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbXJuWORHag
In a revealing interview, Neil Howe—the co-author ofThe Fourth Turning: What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America’s Next Rendezvous with Destiny (https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-History-Americas-Rendezvous-ebook/dp/B001RKFU4I)—candidly discusses his perspective on Steve Bannon, President Donald Trump’s Chief Strategist and former head of the online news site Breitbart.

Bannon is a proponent of the theory that history generally moves in 80-year cycles, with each cycle ending in a crisis that destroys the old order and ushers in something new. It’s an idea proposed by Howe in The Fourth Turning.

In widely reported remarks (http://www.businessinsider.com/book-steve-bannon-is-obsessed-with-the-fourth-turning-2017-2), Bannon believes the United States has had three “turnings”—the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression/World War II—and is now in the midst of another emanating from the 2008 Financial Crisis.

In an exclusive interview with RiskHedge’s Jonathan Roth, Howe confirms he knows Bannon and they have worked together on documentary film projects in the past. “I didn’t find anything sort of out of the ordinary about him politically,” relates Howe. “Like most other Americans, I didn’t know what alt-right was until I read about it in the media.”

Howe portrays an interesting portrait of the man now advising President Trump.

“I think the main thing people should understand about him, which I think maybe has not been portrayed in the media, is that he’s not so much a policy person or a person with fervent policy or political beliefs; he’s fundamentally a culture person. He has ascetic sensibilities. He’s really interested in sort of how socially and culturally Trump’s coalition hangs together,” says Howe. “I do think that Steve Bannon, along with a few other people on sort of the conservative side of the spectrum, took an interesting lesson from The Fourth Turning and that is our prediction that this era would see the successful merging of economic populism and cultural and social conservatism.”

In the wide-ranging interview, Howe also details his own views about the possibility of civil war in America by discussing the mood in the United States just prior to the Civil War in 1859–1860: “Right up to the end, no one really realistically thought that actual war would happen. It just seemed incredible.”

Listen to the full, informative interview with Mr. Howe above.

The Burning Platform (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/22/neil-howe-on-steve-bannon-trump-and-the-possibility-of-civil-war-in-america/#more-143840)

[Helene West]

Sam
I will look forward to that vid of Cruz saying that about the dems...

[Chester]

Sam
I will look forward to that vid of Cruz saying that about the dems...

done - I placed the link both in my post #243 above and here -

This link leads to the video auto-opens (at least for me) -

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/ted-cruz-odds-are-very-good-supreme-court-vacancy-this-summer.html

[sunpaw]

Sam Hunter, may I ask where you get 'improving' from and also 'more are glad T is President'?

I ask because I get the opposite, on both above (as in: observing, noticing, reading,..). I also (actually) get the opposite from 'aware/sane in the US'.

Thank you.

[Helene West]

Sam
I will look forward to that vid of Cruz saying that about the dems...

done - I placed the link both in my post #243 above and here -

This link leads to the video auto-opens (at least for me) -

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/ted-cruz-odds-are-very-good-supreme-court-vacancy-this-summer.html

thx. the link was troublesome so I went directly to fox which I hate to do but was curious to hear if cruz held a grudge against trump. I love the black dem racist guy and the sycophantic pathetic whites in the audience. The galaxy has never known such sore losers....

[turiya]

Sometimes, support for the Trump train seems to come from unsuspected places.

Anyone familiar with the Health Ranger, Mike Adams from the website: naturalnews.com/?
Apparently, he has been covering Trump for some time now, in an attempt to bring real news about him, instead of the fake news, produced by CNN, NYT, WP and the likes.

Good for him, but that's not the main reason of my post.

Apparently, he has been receiving proposals for bribes and threats even to start gunning for other alternative media sources and Infowars in particular.

Don't know how to include a soundcloud here, so will just post a link to it (https://soundcloud.com/healthranger/health-ranger-threatened-destroy-alex-jones-or-we-will-destroy-you?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fhealthr anger%2Fhealth-ranger-threatened-destroy-alex-jones-or-we-will-destroy-you).

Something that we all should become aware of fast.
Attempts to infiltrate the alternative media.

Funny, Eram, cuz Mike Adams used to host Alex's show when Alex needed to leave town on various occasions. - thanks for the link.

Late Edit:

Found the youtube that Mike had posted...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sv2oZHPng0

Eram

In that Mike Adams video, Mike says that he was offered $50,000 if he was willing to attack Alex Jones. He also says he had a thumb-drive from these people that contained files. It looks like Stephan Colbert just may have "taken the bait" [$50,000], as he just attacked Alex in the below video. I tried to contact Mike Adams to ask him if the files on that thumb-drive were any of what Colbert showed in his recent video that he published... Still waiting for Mike to respond, but not holdiing my breath...

I was sent this video via email from one of my Left-wing progressive clients... of which I promptly replied with the above Mike Adams video, along with the comment... "Looks like Colbert took the bait!"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-HUbdEAxo8

You would have to agree that Alex Jones certainly doesn't make it very easy for him to defend himself... or anybody else to run a defense for him, either.