Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

[onawah]

Oroville 24 April Update Reports are Out!
blancolirio
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Oroville Dam UPDATE 4/25/2017 10:20 PM The Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Lawmakers grill CA water director on Lake Oroville emergency
KCRA News

Published on Apr 25, 2017
The head of California's water agency on Tuesday repeated his assertion that an emergency spillway at the Oroville Dam worked, drawing an incredulous response from a state lawmaker who represents tens of thousands of people ordered to evacuate when it was feared erosion at the spillway could lead to catastrophic flooding.
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[onawah]

This is the webpage for official Dept. of Water Resources updates on Oroville and other locales in CA.:
http://www.water.ca.gov/recent_news.cfm
This is the link for the update for April 25:
http://www.water.ca.gov/news/newsreleases/2017/042517incident_update.pdf
This is their youtube page (but there's no video posted there as yet for April 25's update):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeod6x87Tu6eVFnSyEtQeOVbxvSWywPlx

[Rocky_Shorz]

This one shows em blowing up a hillside, pretty cool...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCLSdBaWLBE

[onawah]

OROVILLE DAM LEAK-- MAJOR LEAK AT DAM DETECTED
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It seems to be quite a revealing conversation, if you can make it out over the din of the running generator :facepalm: but I can't testify as to the veracity (there's still too much fear porn on youtube about the dam).


Paul Preston
Published on Apr 25, 2017
PAUL PRESTON and one of the nation’s leading dam expert Scott Cahill visit Oroville Dam. The visit revealed a major leak in the dam wall above the Hyatt Power Plant. The green area in the dam wall is very wet and is porting water from behind the dam. Sources close to Agenda 21 Radio went to the area on the dam and after an examination of the leak and the embankment material including vegetation speciation reported the leak is a major concern the Department of Water Resources is NOT reporting to the public and if not addressed could lead to catastrophic dam failure.
Sound during the interview with Scott Cahill at the spillway is low due to technical difficulties. All references to water flows are expressed in cubic feet / second (csf).
https://twitter.com/oroville_dam/stat...
Scott Cahill Bio: http://www.agenda21radio.news/2017/03...

[onawah]

Oroville 26 April DWR Reports Explained
blancolirio
Published on Apr 26, 2017

A look at some of the details in the recently released DWR reports.
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[onawah]

Director of DWR explains the current plans to fixing Oroville spillway
Oroville Dam Update 4/25/17

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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 4/27/2017 6:35 PM The Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring New Drone Fly Over
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Tattoo's on a rant because his original youtube page got taken down, so be prepared for that, though there is still good info in this video if you are patient.

[onawah]

Oroville Update 28 April "DWR Grilled in Gridley" - Dam Seep?
blancolirio Published on Apr 29, 2017

The first in a series of public meetings with the DWR regarding the Oroville Spillway disaster.
A look at some of the details in the recently released DWR reports.
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River Valve Outlet System (RVOS) at Oroville Dam Explained 4/29/17
Millie Kay

Published on Apr 29, 2017
This video provides an overview of the River Valve Outlet System (RVOS) at the Oroville Dam. The River Valve Outlet System is one of four ways to remove water from the reservoir. The operation is accomplished via a system of tunnels, pipes, and valves. Credit for photos shown in this video goes to California Department of Water Resources publications as shown at the end of the video. To learn more about the removal of the baffle ring, go to Syblon Ried General Engineering Contractors' Web site at http://www.srco.com/index.php?id=85 .
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 4/30/2017 7:23 AM The Weather FORECAST CA.FL. VIDME
Tatoott1009Reloaded

("Frequency rings" galore!)

Published on Apr 30, 2017
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[onawah]

Oroville 1 May Update Farmers Failed Levees Downstream
blancolirio
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[onawah]

5/3/2017 New Drone Fly Over

tatoott1009
...As the spillway shuts down again. Tattoo's regular youtube page is back up, and he promises to be taking looks soon at other dams which may be in danger.

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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/4/2017 The Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring
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[onawah]

Sacramento Bee article, 4/29/17 Another giant California dam has downstream residents worried
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article147609839.html

BY JANE BRAXTON LITTLE

TRINITY DAM
Deep in the Trinity Alps, 130 miles northwest of the troubled Oroville Dam, local officials are raising alarms about another earthen dam with documented weaknesses and limited capacity for releasing the water that has poured in from storms and melting snow.

Trinity Lake, the state’s third-largest reservoir, was filled to 97 percent of its storage capacity Tuesday, and a snowpack estimated at 150 percent of normal still looms over the watershed.

If the reservoir were to overtop the dam, the results would be catastrophic, said Keith Groves, a Trinity County supervisor representing the district that includes Trinity Dam.

“It would take out bridges … and a big section of (Trinity County) would be wiped off the face of the planet,” Groves said. He said 3,500 people live in the immediate pathway of potential flooding.

More than a month ago, on March 21, the Trinity County Board of Supervisors sent a letter to the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation asking for a public presentation about the safety of Trinity Dam, climate change and the possible need to build another spillway. This week, Groves said the bureau has agreed to make a presentation for the supervisors on June 6.

Bureau officials are aware of the accumulation of snow above the reservoir and the mounting water levels, but they are not concerned about water overtopping the structure, said Russell Grimes, acting public affairs officer for the Bureau’s mid-pacific region in Sacramento.

“Even at 96 percent (of capacity) there’s quite a lot of space for inflow,” he said.

Completed in 1962 as part of the Central Valley Project, Trinity Dam was the largest earthen dam in the world until it was eclipsed by Oroville. It sits on the Trinity River, 45 miles northwest of Redding, and just above Lewiston Lake, which was formed by a second dam 8 miles downstream. A 3-mile tunnel diverts water from the Trinity River Basin to the Sacramento River Basin, providing water for hydroelectric production at four power plants and irrigation to the agricultural industry in the San Joaquin Valley.

Concerns about the dam’s safety date to 1974, when an unseasonably warm storm, known as a “pineapple express,” dropped heavy rain and snow in the Trinity Alps. The water level in the lake rose so high it nearly overwhelmed the dam, said Groves.

At that time, the Reclamation Bureau, which operates the dam, reduced the reservoir level it considers safe to 1.85 million acre feet, around 75 percent of the lake’s total capacity. This week, the reservoir was holding more than 2.3 million acre feet of water.

Although Bureau officials say they aren’t worried, some residents who live below the dam say they are. Glenn Burton, a contractor who owns several vacation rentals, has lived in Lewiston for over 30 years. He remembers the winter of 1996, when flows into Trinity reservoir were 10 times higher than its discharge capacity.

“A dam is not going to fail? Convince those below Oroville Dam of that,” Burton said.

Despite documented hazards, neither Trinity County nor the state or federal government has developed evacuation notifications or procedures, a situation that Burton called “utterly inexcusable.”

Trinity Dam has three ways to release water: an uncontrolled concrete-lined tunnel that starts flowing when the lake gets high enough, a type of spillway often called a glory hole; a concrete-lined outlet at the bottom of the dam, and an outlet associated with the dam’s hydroelectric power plant. Together they can release about 35,000 cubic feet of water per second (cfs). By comparison, the damaged spillway on Oroville Dam was releasing 100,000 cfs in February as the state worked furiously to lower a dangerously high lake level.

Although Reclamation officials never expect any dam to face a maximum flood event, the bureau’s 2000 report says the Trinity Dam could not withstand one should it occur. “The resulting breach would discharge in excess of 1,000,000 cfs,” the report states.

The report also cites a landslide that could potentially block the exit of the glory hole spillway. If that were to happen when the spillway was discharging, the internal water pressures could damage the spillway and surrounding rock abutment, the 2000 bureau report states.

Engineers design spillways carefully to handle possible maximum floods – “the absolutely humungous events” that test dam structures, said Jay Lund, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at UC Davis. Spillways almost always work, he said. And while Lund expressed surprise at how small Trinity’s spillways are, he said the size of the reservoir should be encouraging.

The number of facilities constructed for spilling water from a dam depends on the size of the watershed, said Grimes, the bureau spokesman. Trinity Lake, which drains a 3,000-square-mile watershed, can store nearly 2.5-million acre feet of water. Oroville, which drains a 6,000-square-mile watershed, can store 3.5-million acre feet of water.

Trinity’s relatively large capacity increases the bureau’s confidence in operating it safely, Grimes said. Although the Bureau of Reclamation has not done additional dam safety studies since its 2000 report, Trinity Dam falls within the current guidelines for operation and thus has triggered no new investigations, he said.

That is not comforting to Groves, the county supervisor. Residents of his district watched the crisis at Oroville unfold after damage to the main spillway prompted the state to allow water to flow over the dam’s untested emergency spillway for the first time. The unlined hillside below the emergency spillway quickly eroded, raising fears it could collapse and prompting the evacuation of nearly 200,000 people.

“Our constituents are hyper-sensitive,” said Groves. “They want to know exactly where the dangers are.”

Following the crisis at Oroville Dam, it’s reasonable to expect more inspections and attention to dams, said Lund: “I can understand why people below the dam are on edge after Oroville.”

U.S. Congressman Jared Huffman, who represents the Trinity region, has asked for a new safety review of Trinity Dam that includes consideration of a new concrete emergency spillway. In a March 24 letter to Ryan Zinke, secretary of the Department of Interior which oversees the Bureau of Reclamation, Huffman noted that maximum uncontrolled releases from the dam are about 30,000 to 35,000 cfs. A maximum probable flood is 10 times that – about 400,000 cfs, according to the 2000 technical report.

His letter prompted agency officials to review the conditions at Trinity Dam for public safety, said Grimes. The Bureau remains confident that the facility is being operated safely despite the current high level of water in the reservoir, he said.

About a week ago, the bureau began taking some pressure off Trinity Dam with a series of scheduled water releases that are part of a federally mandated plan to help restore fish populations.



Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/5/17 | 1st Oroviille Dam trouble & Now GIANT Trinity Dam | Lake Oroville Dam
Trump Daily News
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Published on May 4, 2017

First we had the trouble with the Oroville Dam spillway and emergency spillway, now with record snowpack melting and the Trinity Dam capacity percentage in the high 90's, residents around the Reservoir are worried. And the old 2000 safety report isn't making anyone feel better.

God Bless everyone,

Another giant California dam has downstream residents worried

TRINITY DAM
Deep in the Trinity Alps, 130 miles northwest of the troubled Oroville Dam, local officials are raising alarms about another earthen dam with documented weaknesses and limited capacity for releasing the water that has poured in from storms and melting snow.

Trinity Lake, the state’s third-largest reservoir, was filled to 97 percent of its storage capacity Tuesday, and a snowpack estimated at 150 percent of normal still looms over the watershed.

If the reservoir were to overtop the dam, the results would be catastrophic, said Keith Groves, a Trinity County supervisor representing the district that includes Trinity Dam.

“It would take out bridges … and a big section of (Trinity County) would be wiped off the face of the planet,” Groves said. He said 3,500 people live in the immediate pathway of potential flooding.

Bureau officials are aware of the accumulation of snow above the reservoir and the mounting water levels, but they are not concerned about water overtopping the structure, said Russell Grimes, acting public affairs officer for the Bureau’s mid-pacific region in Sacramento.

“Even at 96 percent (of capacity) there’s quite a lot of space for inflow,” he said.

Completed in 1962 as part of the Central Valley Project, Trinity Dam was the largest earthen dam in the world until it was eclipsed by Oroville. It sits on the Trinity River, 45 miles northwest of Redding, and just above Lewiston Lake, which was formed by a second dam 8 miles downstream. A 3-mile tunnel diverts water from the Trinity River Basin to the Sacramento River Basin, providing water for hydroelectric production at four power plants and irrigation to the agricultural industry in the San Joaquin Valley.

Concerns about the dam’s safety date to 1974, when an unseasonably warm storm, known as a “pineapple express,” dropped heavy rain and snow in the Trinity Alps. The water level in the lake rose so high it nearly overwhelmed the dam, said Groves.

“A dam is not going to fail? Convince those below Oroville Dam of that,” Burton said.

Trinity Dam has three ways to release water: an uncontrolled concrete-lined tunnel that starts flowing when the lake gets high enough, a type of spillway often called a glory hole; a concrete-lined outlet at the bottom of the dam, and an outlet associated with the dam’s hydroelectric power plant. Together they can release about 35,000 cubic feet of water per second (cfs). By comparison, the damaged spillway on Oroville Dam was releasing 100,000 cfs in February as the state worked furiously to lower a dangerously high lake level.

The report also cites a landslide that could potentially block the exit of the glory hole spillway. If that were to happen when the spillway was discharging, the internal water pressures could damage the spillway and surrounding rock abutment, the 2000 bureau report states.

And today's update from Tattoott1009
Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/6/2017 9:38 PM The Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/8/2017 4:35 PM 10 DAY Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring
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[pyrangello]

There was an interview in the last few days on caravantomidnight with john wells on this dam, agenda 21, the impact this dam would do if it let go and the negligence on the state govt level , gov. brown and company. It all ties together when you look at the big picture. Had a guy here yesterday that fishes that body of water behind the dam- 25 miles upstream from the dam.A long long way. It was also stated if this burst, southern cal would loose 40% of its water supply immediately.

[onawah]

Thanks Pyrangello. Here is the link for that interview, which starts at about 11:30 minutes in:
https://caravantomidnight.com/ark-midnight-episode-45-failure-imminent-oroville-dam/
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Oroville Update 9 May Construction Fly Over "One Last Spill?"
blancolirio
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Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/9/2017 9:39 PM The Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring
tatoott1009

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[onawah]

Spillway Reopens | New Images | DWR Borrows $500 Million
Lake Oroville Dam Update 5-10-17
Disclosure Media
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[onawah]

DWR shoring up river banks 30 miles downstream of Oroville Dam 5/15/17
Millie Kay
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[geofffxdwg]

I live 2 miles from lake Oroville just above the lake and I have for several years. I have life long friends in the area and living in Oroville. I don't know the real facts about what shape the dam is in but I know for a fact what is really going on at the emergency spillway. I know people very close to the issue. The rumors of gold are true. Here is what I was told by someone working there. When the water flow was stopped and all of the mud was washed into the river. There was an exposed vein of gold on the surface of the hard pan as thick as my leg and as long as a truck. That was what was exposed. The whole area and entry to that area is under very close surveillance. At night trucks are loaded with hard pan, covered with tarps they get on the freeway and leave the area. I don't know which direction they head on 99 nor do I know anyone stupid enough to try to follow them. They are running a covert mining operation at the emergency spillway. I have done this kind of work for many years in this area mainly building slurry walls. When repair work like this is done the dirt is removed then a very very deep trench is dug sometimes more than 100 feet deep or until they hit hard pan and slurry is pumped in the approximate 3 foot wide 100 feet deep trench. That trench is called a slurry wall and it can be more than a mile or miles long depending on the damage. Water will not penetrate it for sometimes 80 years. My point is the dirt work is only temporarily moved close by until the actual repair work is done down at hard pan level and then the dirt is moved back in place. Never have I heard of or seen hard pan and bedrock being hauled away on the freeway to who knows where. This information is very credible and it is a fact. I'm sorry I don't know more about the actual structural condition of the actual dam itself. I have been hearing all the rumors but I cannot substantiate any of it. 5 years ago I had access to everything as one of my closest friends held a very high position in the Army Corp of Engineers but he is retired now. I also know Jerry Brown made a non publicized (secret appearance ) to the dam back when they first discovered the gold vein after the flow of water was shut off at the emergency spillway. Residents of Oroville including some of my close friends saw him there. He went to the emergency spillway. Thats all I know that is fact.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hmmm the plot thickens Geoff if this is true...?



I live 2 miles from lake Oroville just above the lake and I have for several years. I have life long friends in the area and living in Oroville. I don't know the real facts about what shape the dam is in but I know for a fact what is really going on at the emergency spillway. I know people very close to the issue. The rumors of gold are true. Here is what I was told by someone working there. When the water flow was stopped and all of the mud was washed into the river. There was an exposed vein of gold on the surface of the hard pan as thick as my leg and as long as a truck. That was what was exposed. The whole area and entry to that area is under very close surveillance. At night trucks are loaded with hard pan, covered with tarps they get on the freeway and leave the area. I don't know which direction they head on 99 nor do I know anyone stupid enough to try to follow them. They are running a covert mining operation at the emergency spillway. I have done this kind of work for many years in this area mainly building slurry walls. When repair work like this is done the dirt is removed then a very very deep trench is dug sometimes more than 100 feet deep or until they hit hard pan and slurry is pumped in the approximate 3 foot wide 100 feet deep trench. That trench is called a slurry wall and it can be more than a mile or miles long depending on the damage. Water will not penetrate it for sometimes 80 years. My point is the dirt work is only temporarily moved close by until the actual repair work is done down at hard pan level and then the dirt is moved back in place. Never have I heard of or seen hard pan and bedrock being hauled away on the freeway to who knows where. This information is very credible and it is a fact. I'm sorry I don't know more about the actual structural condition of the actual dam itself. I have been hearing all the rumors but I cannot substantiate any of it. 5 years ago I had access to everything as one of my closest friends held a very high position in the Army Corp of Engineers but he is retired now. I also know Jerry Brown made a non publicized (secret appearance ) to the dam back when they first discovered the gold vein after the flow of water was shut off at the emergency spillway. Residents of Oroville including some of my close friends saw him there. He went to the emergency spillway. Thats all I know that is fact.

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[onawah]

There has been a lot of talk about gold on various youtube channels having to do with Oroville.
It could certainly be true, but there is so much speculation about so many subjects connected to the dam, I haven't pursued any but the ones that seemed most credible and generally informative to me.

[onawah]

Oroville 15 May Update -Recovery
blancolirio
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Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/15/2017 10:44 PM Weather West Mims Wildfires
tatoott1009
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[geofffxdwg]

Its very true. I trust information I get from my life long friends before I trust information from anywhere else. I first heard this over a month ago. I have not been to project avalon in a very long time. I saw this post and disclosed what I know are facts about the dam in my backyard. The problem with all of the people covering the dam is none of them live anywhere around here. Some live thousands of miles away or even in other countries. Their information comes from what is online and not from local life long residents or people working on the dam repairs which in my case is a local resident as well. I will not speculate regardless of the fact the information I revealed is true. I only deal in facts.

[onawah]

There are two sources I refer to most often, Tattoott1009 and Blancolirio, who lives downstream from the dam and is quite well informed and intelligent, from what I can surmise.
Tattoott1009 lives in Florida, but is in direct communication with Dutchsinse, and so has good information as to what the weather maps reveal re frequency signals (HAARP), and is keeping a very close eye on what is being reported on youtube and elsewhere.
It's certainly helpful to get further credible info from other sources, of course.
But a lot of what I see on youtube looks like fear porn, and some of the reports are from people who don't even live in the US, so there is a broad spectrum of info to choose from.
What troubles me the most is the fact that few people seem to understand what is at stake insofar as food resources go if the dam fails.
And even as it is operating now, it is having a big impact on farmers downstream.
Since most of the produce in the US (and other countries too) comes from downstream of the Oroville dam, this is a big concern.

[ThePythonicCow]

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Thanks for you excellent update, Geofffxdwg.

I didn't know what a "slurry wall" was, so I looked it up. It's a wall of reinforced concrete.

What you're saying makes sense to me now. If they were just putting in a slurry wall to stop some underground leakage, they'd move the overlying dirt aside only a short distance away, just to get to the underlying hard rock. That they are trucking the dirt a long ways off certainly fits with your report that they're mining for gold there.

[geofffxdwg]

Something else important to think about is the real crisis is the actual dam and its spillway. The emergency spillway was never designed to actually be used. This was the first time it was actually used and it failed. The focus and most of the effort should be on the main spillway. My question is why so much effort on the emergency spillway? I have also heard reports (i have not verified) they have spent upwards of $400 million so far on repairs. If those figures are true I would like to know on what? They don't even have a crew large enough and equipment and material expensive enough to justify those numbers. At this point that is speculation. As I said before, I only deal in facts. I am in total agreement with onawah about the vast agriculture in danger not to mention all of the levees. If there was a disaster it will be much bigger than anyone knows. As far as Tattoott1009 goes. I wouldn't waste my time with his fear porn. He is data fracking to feed the weak minded and his bank account. Unfortunately he is not the only one doing MSN's job for them at his expense. I could go into lots of speculation but I won't about our engineered drought and also other capabilities of HAARP at locating all kinds of precious metals, minerals or even diamonds. I will stick to the facts. I will take a ride down there next week and see if I can find out anything new. If I do I will share it here. Thanks everyone. Here is a couple of photos I took of my two daughters the day the dam breached at the north end of lake Oroville not far from my home. Sorry I cannot seem to figure out how to upload the images.

[onawah]

I wouldn't classify Tattoott1009 as fear porn at all.
He posts statistics, photographs and very detailed commentary on frequency rings from weather maps, just as Dutchsinse does, and he spends a lot of time doing it, so I don't have a problem with him making some money from it, even if he is an unapologetically hillbilly kind of character and there are constant interruptions from dogs, birds, pot belly pigs, etc.; that doesn't bother me, because I think he's sincere.
In any case, it's a contradiction of terms to say that he is posting fear porn and doing the MSM's job for them, since the latter is doing its' best to hide any dangers, while the fear porn posters are doing all they can to magnify them.
And here is his latest:
Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/16/2017 6:30 PM New Frequency Ring
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Additionally, he posted this link, which I found to be quite interesting:
https://vid.me/aF8H
...and which I think is quite old, but in it, Dr. Michio Kaku admits that HAARP has the capability of manipulating the weather with lasers, something conspiracy theorists have been saying for a long time, only to be told we are nutjobs.
To find out what HAARP is doing now, see Dutchsinse's website (and listen to his comments in the vid.me video.

[onawah]

Oroville Dam Damage a 10 on scale of 10 says Expert
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Published on May 15, 2017
State rushing to fix Oroville Dam
The state Department of Water Resources is rushing to make needed repairs to the Oroville Dam.

[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/17/2017 5:15 PM New Drone Fly Over Frequency Ring
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and an interesting comment on that youtube page:


Shieena Living Waters2 hours ago
tatoott1009 If one reads the USDA, It tries to paint a pretty picture. But California states $5 billion Loss California Almonds, Grapes had an unexpected freeze, Lettuce and broccoli drowned, and there may not be avocado, prunes, raisens.

Record rainfall is killing our state’s salad greens, foods it’s a top producer of.

Among other problems, that’s kept bees from pollinating nut trees like they normally would during the nut’s short bloom period. And where are the wild bees? I haven't seen any. Farmers are having to bring them in.

Lavender and sunflower farms are closed for public visits and cuttings.

California almond growers like Olam — the world’s biggest supplier, which owns some 9,000 acres in California — is seeing black mold inside nuts. Same with walnuts.

This is a USA PROBLEM.


Though there are certainly a ton of problems still to be resolved, I don't think anyone can logically conclude, especially judging from the recent flyovers, that millions of dollars worth of work hasn't been done.
That kind of equipment, including helicopters, doesn't come cheap, or the labor to operate it day and night, given their schedule, and it must mean lots of overtime for the operators as well. Not to mention all the engineers and other experts who they have had to consult with.
Whether it's going to resolve the main problems remains to be seen, but that a lot of money isn't being spent in the attempt doesn't seem arguable to me.

[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/19/2017 5:15 PM New Drone Fly Over Frequency Ring
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[geofffxdwg]

I'm not saying millions of dollars of work has not been done. I also said I could not verify the exact amount either. I have been on billion dollar jobs. Have you? As a matter of fact my last employer has been selected to be the primary contractor on this job. That would be Kiewit PKS ( Peter Kiewit & Sons). The last job I was on was the Oakland San Francisco bay bridge and before that The Benicia Martinez Segmental (in the east bay) That started out at $460 million but when we were drilling the footings the bottoms were blowing out at 400 feet deep. They shut down the job claiming it was because of the salmon run but it was actually because they needed more money to drill 800 feet deep. They could care a less about the fish. Do you have any idea how many fish died from the pile driving alone? The price to finish that bridge doubled to almost a billion dollars and the tax payers thought the extra money was for the $12000.00 a day it cost for all of that equipment to sit doing nothing until the salmon run was over but they were waiting for the extra money to be authorized. Before that bridge I helped build the Crockett bridge a few miles to the west by Mare Island Naval shipyard and where Kiewit has their main yard for all of those bridge jobs going on in the bay area. We have 3 crews working around the clock and hundreds of millions of dollars in equipment. I worked on "The General" Its the largest floating crane in the world. It can lift 350 thousand pounds while floating. The block alone weighs 24 tons. So don't try to tell me I don't know my business because I obviously know much more than you. Usually several helicopters and boats and barges and tugs are common place on these jobs. When we build slurry walls the main excavator is brought in by 3 huge trucks that have to be escorted and they need permits to move them across country. They bring in a huge crane to put it together on the job site. Some have 3 tiers on them that can hold 10 or 15 men on each platform. These machines are one of a kind often costing $25 million on up. I know what a half a billion dollar job looks like and how long it takes in this case. You are also dead wrong about tatoot 1009. He is all about fear porn. I was a member of StumbleUpon 10 years ago and that guy joined and friended me and anyone else that accepted. He would send me no less than 10 shares a day and all of them were Alex Jones videos. I politely replied back asking him to please stop sending me this crap. He ignored me and just kept sending more and more crap from Alex Jones. Obviously he didn't read any replies He was just spreading the doom and gloom so I blocked him.I have 3 you tube channels and I am well aware of what he does and the idiots he does it with. He is total fear porn. So you go ahead and use your logic. Thats your choice. I know this work. I know this area because it is my home. I know people working on this job and the chances are, I am going to know many many more that work for Kiewit and General Construction. BTW General Construction is owned by Kiewit. Thats how Kiewit gets around never having injuries on their jobs. If someone gets injured on the job they didn't work for Kiewit, they worked for General Construction. Companies like Kiewit do not get these huge contracts if they have employee injuries on job sites. BTW we haven't had hardly any bees in years. All bees are farmed in. I do have a garden and flowers and fruit trees in my back yard. So you pretend you know what you are talking about with someone else because its not working with me.




Friendly mod note from Bill: Short paragraphs, with frequent breaks, make anything like this MUCH more likely to be read in full by others.

Please take a moment to edit your post so that it's not just one huge block of text. THX.

:thumbsup:

[onawah]

You are quite right, I have no experience in construction nor do I have any personal issues at stake, and I certainly won't argue with you.
But if you have information to share from the perspective of someone who has experience in these types of projects, I'm sure the forum would be interested to hear it.


I have also heard reports (i have not verified) they have spent upwards of $400 million so far on repairs. If those figures are true I would like to know on what? They don't even have a crew large enough and equipment and material expensive enough to justify those numbers.


From the flyovers, it looks to me like a huge amount of work has been done by all kinds of people and equipment but I would not speculate as to what the cost would be to date, as I have no idea (see links below).

He may be into a lot of other conspiracies and posting fear porn about some of those, but when it comes to the Oroville dam (and that is all I have been following from him) he seems to be quite objective, and has actually been expressing how impressed he is by the amount of work that has been done in his latest accounts, so no fear porn there.
In addition, like Dutchsinse, he is making a lot of people aware of frequency rings and weather manipulation, which is a good thing, imho.
For some real Oroville dam fear porn, there is plenty to choose from on youtube, and the differences are fairly obvious, even from just reading the headliners.

You wrote:
As far as Tattoott1009 goes. I wouldn't waste my time with his fear porn. He is data fracking to feed the weak minded and his bank account. Unfortunately he is not the only one doing MSN's job for them at his expense.
To which I responded:

In any case, it's a contradiction of terms to say that he is posting fear porn and doing the MSM's job for them, since the latter is doing its' best to hide any dangers, while the fear porn posters are doing all they can to magnify them.

...If you care to respond to that.



[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying millions of dollars of work has not been done. I also said I could not verify the exact amount either. I have been on billion dollar jobs. Have you? As a matter of fact my last employer has been selected to be the primary contractor on this job. That would be Kiewit PKS ( Peter Kiewit & Sons). The last job I was on was the Oakland San Francisco bay bridge and before that The Benicia Martinez Segmental (in the east bay) That started out at $460 million but when we were drilling the footings the bottoms were blowing out at 400 feet deep. They shut down the job claiming it was because of the salmon run but it was actually because they needed more money to drill 800 feet deep. They could care a less about the fish. Do you have any idea how many fish died from the pile driving alone? The price to finish that bridge doubled to almost a billion dollars and the tax payers thought the extra money was for the $12000.00 a day it cost for all of that equipment to sit doing nothing until the salmon run was over but they were waiting for the extra money to be authorized. Before that bridge I helped build the Crockett bridge a few miles to the west by Mare Island Naval shipyard and where Kiewit has their main yard for all of those bridge jobs going on in the bay area. We have 3 crews working around the clock and hundreds of millions of dollars in equipment. I worked on "The General" Its the largest floating crane in the world. It can lift 350 thousand pounds while floating. The block alone weighs 24 tons. So don't try to tell me I don't know my business because I obviously know much more than you. Usually several helicopters and boats and barges and tugs are common place on these jobs. When we build slurry walls the main excavator is brought in by 3 huge trucks that have to be escorted and they need permits to move them across country. They bring in a huge crane to put it together on the job site. Some have 3 tiers on them that can hold 10 or 15 men on each platform. These machines are one of a kind often costing $25 million on up. I know what a half a billion dollar job looks like and how long it takes in this case. You are also dead wrong about tatoot 1009. He is all about fear porn. I was a member of StumbleUpon 10 years ago and that guy joined and friended me and anyone else that accepted. He would send me no less than 10 shares a day and all of them were Alex Jones videos. I politely replied back asking him to please stop sending me this crap. He ignored me and just kept sending more and more crap from Alex Jones. Obviously he didn't read any replies He was just spreading the doom and gloom so I blocked him.I have 3 you tube channels and I am well aware of what he does and the idiots he does it with. He is total fear porn. So you go ahead and use your logic. Thats your choice. I know this work. I know this area because it is my home. I know people working on this job and the chances are, I am going to know many many more that work for Kiewit and General Construction. BTW General Construction is owned by Kiewit. Thats how Kiewit gets around never having injuries on their jobs. If someone gets injured on the job they didn't work for Kiewit, they worked for General Construction. Companies like Kiewit do not get these huge contracts if they have employee injuries on job sites. BTW we haven't had hardly any bees in years. All bees are farmed in. I do have a garden and flowers and fruit trees in my back yard. So you pretend you know what you are talking about with someone else because its not working with me.




Friendly mod note from Bill: Short paragraphs, with frequent breaks, make anything like this MUCH more likely to be read in full by others.

Please take a moment to edit your post so that it's not just one huge block of text. THX.

:thumbsup:


According to this article, expenditures have been over 4 million per day:
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/09/oroville-dam-dwr-says-repair-cost-estimated-at-4-7-million-per-day/
More here:
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/14/oroville-dam-drags-californias-aging-infrastructure-into-the-open/
and
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/13/californias-oroville-dam-wasnt-on-browns-infrastructure-wish-list.html
and
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2017-05-08/california-borrows-up-to-500-million-to-fix-damage-at-dam

[onawah]

Oroville Update 23 May Demolition Begins!

blancolirio

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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/26/2017 8:50 PM KABOOM Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Frequency rings galore and lots of concrete being blown up
Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/27/2017 12:04 PM KABOOM Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/28/2017 12:24 PM KABOOM
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 5/30/2017 12:00 PM Frequency Ring KABOOM New Drone Fly Over
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Blasting Away the Spillway
Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/1/2017 7:35PM New Drone Fly Over KABOOM ! BLAST IT OUT
tatoott1009

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I missed this one when it came out, so it's older, but Blancolirio gives more detail and explanation re the game plan thus far
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/6/2017 5:35 PM Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Oroville Update 7 June More Blasting, First Pour
blancolirio
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[pyrangello]

very cool video, I have a customer that comes in here that fishes the reservoir behind the dam, 27 miles upstream to give you an idea how big this water is .

[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/10/2017 7:46 PM SIX HOURS OF TIME LAPSE
tatoott1009
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Rings galore!
Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/10/2017 11:19 AM Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/12/2017 7:09 PM Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/14/2017 6:29 PM Frequency Ring New Drone Fly Over
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/15/2017 9:30 PM Frequency Ring, M 4.5 AT Yellowstone
tatoott1009
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Oroville Update 15 June Dental Work and Secant Walls
blancolirio
Skip to about 2:20 in to get to the flyover of the dam.
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam: Here's how things stand now
KCRA News update with DWR Director from 6/13/17
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Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/17/2017 12:02 PM Frequency Ring
Tattoo is on a long rant for the first 20 minutes, then talks about the dam, frequency rings, etc.
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Oroville Update 21 June It's Heating Up!
blancolirio
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Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/21/2017 5:41 PM Frequency Ring 👍 New Drone Fly Over 👍
tatoott1009
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 6/27/2017 9:30 PM Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
At 4 minutes in, a very good shot of the spillway now, showing how much work has been done, also some new photos starting at 15 minutes in.
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[onawah]

Still a very long way to go
Oroville Dam UPDATE 7/1/2017 1:43 PM Frequency Ring New Drone Fly Over
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 7/15/2017 10:48 PM Frequency Rings, M2 class solar flare
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 7/17/2017 11:18 PM Frequency Rings WuohSFfYgJw

[onawah]

Oroville Spillways Community Meeting, Oroville July 18, 2017
California Dept. Water Resources
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Oroville Dam UPDATE 7/19/2017 10:08 PM Frequency Ring

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[onawah]

New Flyover Oroville Dam UPDATE 7/19/2017 10:47 PM Frequency Ring
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[onawah]

Oroville Update 20 July -"Long way to Go, Short Time to get There"
blancolirio

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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 7/22/2017 6:40 AM Frequency Ring New Drone Fly Over
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tatoott1009

[onawah]

Breaking News - 7/22/17 Oroville Dam Update - Spillway Repair - Lake Oroville Dam -Full Video 2017
(Some good new footage from a visitor on the site, with an engineer accompanying him and commenting)
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(The engineer says that the big hole between the two still existing sections of the spillway is going to be filled in with roller compacted concrete.
He didn't say what they will do about the canyon that the water created.
But he did say that the hole and the canyon altogether equal about 1.7 million cubic yards, and so it may be that he was inferring that the canyon will also be filled with concrete. ( Not this year, though, no doubt!)

[joeecho]

From one perspective it is an impressive looking engineer feat they are trying to pull off but on another it has the perspective of a little boy (Nature) dragging a stick through an ant hill and now the ants are all scurrying to repair the damage.

[onawah]

BREAKING - Engineering experts: Oroville dam could be in "SLOW MOTION CATASTROPHIC FAILURE"
From the Sacramento Bee newspaper
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article162801773.html
BY RYAN SABALOW
rsabalow@sacbee.com
JULY 20, 2017


One of the country’s foremost experts on catastrophic engineering failures released a new report Thursday on the troubled Oroville Dam that asks a disturbing question: Is the country’s tallest dam leaking?

State dam managers have insisted for months that there’s no problem, and that persistent green wet spots near the top left abutment of the nearly 770-foot-tall earthen dam are nothing more than natural vegetation growth caused by rainfall.

In response to persistent questions about the wet spots since the February spillway crisis, the Department of Water Resources even has a section of its website devoted to the wet spots. The agency says they’re “caused by rainfall on the face of the dam, allowing vegetation to grow,” and that the spots have been there since before the reservoir was first filled in the late 1960s.

“Oroville Dam is sound and safe,” the website reads.

But in his 124-page report, Robert Bea of the Center for Catastrophic Risk Management at UC Berkeley says he led a team of 14 volunteers, including a group of retired state dam safety and water officials, who reviewed historical photos, videos, and state and federal inspection reports and concluded that something more serious may be going on.

The report warns that the dam may be “facing a breach danger from a serious and a dangerous form of a slow-motion failure mode” from persistent leaks in the main dam, perhaps caused by internal shifting of dam fill. The report notes that the sensors embedded in the dam to detect such problems quit working years ago.

“That’s scary. But it pays to be afraid,” Bea said in an interview. “That doesn’t mean you tremble and quake and crawl in the closet and suck on your thumb, but you have to understand there’s something here that’s potentially very harmful.” Bea is a retired engineer whose credentials include conducting an independent investigation into why the levees around New Orleans failed in 2005 during Hurricane Katrina.

On Thursday, Bea called for an independent investigation into the soundness of Oroville Dam.

Oroville Dam spokeswoman Erin Mellon said the state would make sure Bea’s report is shared with an independent team of experts that has been hired by the state to conduct a forensic study of what caused the spillway to collapse.

Bea’s report doesn’t just sound alarms about potential leaks. It also points to possible problems with the dam’s main spillway that may loom hundreds of feet above where a massive crater formed in the concrete chute in early February. The hole in the spillway set off of a chain of events that eventually led to the two-day evacuation of 188,000 people living below the dam.

The authors say they have evidence of broken and cracked “anchor tendons” that help support the structure that raises and lowers the spillway gates, allowing for water to gush down the chute. The report says two 50-year-old steel anchor tendons have already failed and DWR has data showing that 28 more have “crack indicators” in the steel. There are 384 of the anchor tendons in total, the report says.

The report’s authors also were troubled by a 14-foot crack growing in a massive five-foot-thick concrete pier attached to the spillway’s headworks. The crack has been well-documented in state inspection reports, but the reports don’t address whether or not it poses a safety risk.

“If the structural support and anchorages are inadequate to support the gate loadings, catastrophic failure of the gates could occur with catastrophic effects,” Bea’s report reads.

The report, meanwhile, restates many of the conclusions Bea made in April that shoddy design, construction work and maintenance caused the crater to form in the spillway.

[onawah]

New Drone Fly Over 7/28/2017
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[onawah]

Oroville 27 July- "The RCC is Here!!" (roller compacted concrete)
blancolirio
(Juan Brown makes it clear what the plan is at this point for this season and next season. )

Published on Jul 28, 2017
The MSM continues to make mountains out of molehills while the crews of Kiewit Construction pour on the RCC (Roller Compacted Concrete).
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 3/17/2017 11: Spillway Is Open But WTH Is This ?
tatoott1009
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New Drone Fly Over Oroville Dam UPDATE 8/3/2017 5:45AM last night Frequency Ring
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 8/3/2017 10:00 PM KABOOM Frequency Ring
tatoott1009
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Crews start emergency repairs downstream of Oroville Dam
KCRA News
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 8/5/2017 11:43 PM
Progress ongoing at a good pace
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[onawah]

Oroville Dam UPDATE 11:15PM 8/7/17 Frequency Ring & New Drone Fly Over
Tattoo had this dated 8/8/17, but today is actually the 7th
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[onawah]

"Drill, Fill and Bill" 8/7/17
Juan Brown goes behind the scenes to get the news downstream from Oroville, structural planning and policy making in Sacramento as well as at the Dam itself.
Structural concrete is starting to be poured now.
blancolirio
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KCRA News 8/8/17

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Six months after a nearly 200,000 people were forced to evacuate due to the damaged spillways at Lake Oroville, crews continue to work to rebuild. Construction to repair and rebuild the spillways began in late May. The Department of Water Resources said the expect to finish by Nov. 1, with the peak construction time coming between July and September. Here is an aerial view of the construction so far:
(Some criticism of the accuracy of the reporting in the comment section on the youtube page)

[onawah]

My last post for awhile, as I am going on Sabbatical.
It's easy to find Blancolirio's and Tattoo's youtube videos, if anyone wants to post updates.
It looks like things are under control at the Dam, but you never know, and it's certainly important, as so much produce for the US and the rest of the world has been coming from the farms downstream.
And Tattoo shows good info on his vids about frequencies coming from HAARP which is affecting the weather, giving some insights into what is coming up, weatherwise.
Yuba City Levee Damage Below Oroville and Press Briefing
blancolirio 8/11/17

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Oroville Dam UPDATE 8/11/2017 9:15PM Frequency Ring New Drone Fly Over
tatoott1009
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Oroville Spillway August 10, 2017
California DWR
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[Hervé]

New $500 million Oroville dam spillway already has cracks (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/11/29/unbelievable-new-500-million-oroville-dam-spillway-already-has-cracks/)

Anthony Watts Watts Up With That (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/11/29/unbelievable-new-500-million-oroville-dam-spillway-already-has-cracks/)
Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:47 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/435800/large/oroville_dam_spillway.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/435800/full/oroville_dam_spillway.jpg)
Feb 9th 2017 – concrete collapse at Oroville spillway


Readers may recall that in February 2017, the spillway at Oroville dam eroded and collapsed due to the massive amount of water from El Nino weather pattern induced storms eroding concrete that had cracks in it that had not been properly maintained. The state DWR agency spent an estimated $500 million to rush a new spillway replacement into service by November 1st. Now it appears this rush job has cracks in the steel reinforced concrete, repeating the same start of the scenario that caused the collapse in the first place.

CA Department of Water Resources says: "don't worry", it's "robust".


https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/dwr-letter-cracks.png?w=720&h=412

From ChicoER: Small cracks have appeared in the new concrete in the main spillway at Oroville Dam, but the state says they were expected and nothing to worry about.

An explanation of the "hairline cracks" was called for in a letter the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission wrote to the Department of Water Resources in October. KQED radio in San Francisco first reported the previously undisclosed letter Tuesday.

The Oct. 2 letter from FERC said it understood DWR was concerned when the cracks were discovered after concrete curing covers were removed from some of the slabs poured this year.

It called for a report within 30 days that mapped the cracks, identified potential causes and spelled out remedies, "if necessary."

The state has been rebuilding the spillway after most of it eroded away in February.

KQED also reported Tuesday on the cover letter to the DWR report submitted Nov. 7 in response to the FERC letter. The actual report was not available.

In the cover letter, DWR said it had evaluated the cracks and determined they were caused by efforts to create "a robust and durable structure.
"With the inclusion of these design elements, the presence of hairline cracks was anticipated and is not expected to affect the integrity of the slabs," DWR said. Yeah, sure. Full story here (http://www.chicoer.com/environment-and-nature/20171128/new-lake-oroville-spillway-already-has-cracks).

From KQED:

UC Berkeley civil engineering professor Robert Bea, a veteran analyst of structure failures, said cracking in high-strength reinforced concrete structures is never expected.
"Cracking in high-strength reinforced concrete structures is never 'to be expected,' " Bea said in an email. Even small cracks could increase stresses in the concrete when it is under "service loading" - for instance, when large volumes of water hurtle down the structure at speeds approaching 90 mph.

The cracking "develops paths for water to reach the steel elements embedded in the concrete and accelerate corrosion," Bea wrote in an email. "Such corrosion was responsible for the degradation and ultimate failure of the steel reinforcing in parts of the original gated spillway." DWR inspection and repair records going back to the 1970s documented widespread cracking of the 3,000-foot-long spillway chute - largely because of the thinness of the concrete covering the drainage system below the concrete slab. On at least two occasions, sections of the steel rebar inside the slab were found to be corroded and in need of replacement. After the spillway failed last February, some of the steel rods intended to anchor the slab to underlying rock were also found to be corroded.

More at KQED at their website here (https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/27/feds-ask-state-to-explain-cracks-in-new-concrete-on-oroville-spillway/).


Documents:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4311073/FERC-DWR-Oroville-Concrete.pdf

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4311072-DWR-FERC-Concrete171107.html

[onawah]

Oroville Update 30 November "Hairline Cracks"
blancolirio
Published on Dec 2, 2017
Possibly much ado about nothing....
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[Foxie Loxie]

Good explanation of how YouTube works!!! :cash::cash:

[onawah]

Oroville Update
blancolirio
Feb 24, 2018
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Secant Cut Off wall 95% complete and gets a 'cap beam' structure.

[onawah]

Oroville Update
blancolirio
Mar 16, 2018
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[onawah]

Oroville Storm Update 7 April 2018
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Oroville Update 4 April 18 "The Calm Before the Storm"
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blancolirio
Published on Apr 5, 2018

With the reservoir up to 794' operators are dumping water fast as the forecast for this weekend's storm worsens...
Bonus flyby of Table Mountain Ecological Preserve next to Oroville.
More crosswind landing practice.

Real Time Numbers:
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/dynamicapp/Q...

The following is from a different source, "Thornews" not Blancolirio, but gives a broader perspective of the weather that's been incoming to California, and it's staring this season off with a bang:

Red Alert! California & W Pacific Coast - RECORD Atmospheric River & Wind Inbound
Thornews
Published on Apr 5, 2018
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California just had a 5.3 Earthquake & is now facing a 2 day deluge of rain and wind that will cause major travel trouble, flash flooding & river flooding. We are looking at possibly a record storm here.

articles on situation
https://weather.com/forecast/regional...

Atmospheric River to Pummel California With Heavy Rain and Possible Flooding Late This Week

At a Glance
Heavy rain could cause flooding, rockslides and mudslides in California late this week.
This will be fueled by an atmospheric river originating from the subtropical and tropical Pacific Ocean.
A storm system tapping into an atmospheric river of moisture will pummel California late this week, wringing out heavy rain that could potentially cause flooding, mudslides and rockslides.

This pipeline of moisture will be a classic "Pineapple Express," so named due to the origin of the moist plume in the central Pacific Ocean near Hawaii. The image below shows Friday's forecast of the moisture snaking from near Hawaii to the California coastline.

Helping to pull that moisture into California will be a strengthening area of low pressure pivoting northward offshore of the northwestern U.S. coastline.

Since this moist plume will be warm in nature, it will push snow levels to the highest peaks of the Sierra Nevada, likely 10,000 feet or above. That will result in melting snowpack, which in combination with rain, could cause flooding on streams and rivers.
Moderate to heavy rainfall is expected, mainly Friday into Saturday.
As a result, the National Weather Service has issued flood watches for the Sierra Nevada and much of central California.

One interesting note is that the projected total water vapor transport during this upcoming atmospheric river event is greater than approximately 25 Mississippi Rivers worth of water, according to the Center for Western Weather and Water Extremes. This is actually the average amount of moisture that an atmospheric river transports.

Details on the exact impacts are still uncertain, but here's an overview of what to expect.

California

Timing: Showers will begin to arrive Thursday, but the most intense rain is expected from about midday Friday through midday Saturday.
Where: The heaviest rain will be focused on northern and central California. Lighter amounts are forecast in Southern California, including over recent burn areas, such as the Thomas Fire.
Rain amounts: Much of northern and central California can expect 1 to 3 inches of rain Thursday through Saturday. Foothill and mountain locations will see heavier totals in the range of 3 to 6 inches (locally 8 inches). Less than an inch of rain is expected in most of Southern California.
Flooding potential: Streams and rivers likely will rise rapidly given the heavy rain and snowmelt, potentially resulting in some flooding. Urban locations and other poor-drainage areas could also see flooding. The best chance of flooding will be between the San Francisco Bay Area northward to northern California and along the front range of the northern Sierra.
Landslides: As is typical during heavy rain events in California, rockslides and mudslides could occur. The burn areas from last October's wildfires in the North Bay region could be prone to mudslides depending on the intensity of rainfall in that region.
Snow: Snow levels will be high much of this event, initially preventing any travel impacts on passes. Colder air will filter into the Sierra Nevada Saturday night, allowing a few inches to accumulate before the precipitation ends.

Gusty winds are also possible across the region. In addition, a few thunderstorms also cannot be ruled out.

Oregon and Washington

The Pacific Northwest will also get periods of rain from this storm system Thursday through Saturday, but the largest concern of flooding will remain to the south in California.

Strong winds could also impact the coasts of Washington and Oregon. Depending on the track of the offshore low-pressure system, gusty winds are a possibility farther inland, as well.

A total of 1-3 inches of rain may pour down on the communities of Redding, San Francisco, Sacramento and Santa Rosa, heightening the risk of urban and flash flooding.

Airline passengers with flights through San Francisco International Airport should anticipate delays, while drivers along Interstate 5 can expect times of reduced visibility and slow travel.

Motorists should turn around and find an alternate route if standing water is encountered on the roadways. Some roads may be closed due to high water or debris.

For those who aren't certain why this warrants attention, California is the source of a large percentage of food for the rest of the country (and elsewhere), and if waterways and highways are flooded and non-operational, there will be food shortages, not to mention lots of even more serious problems for Californians, with lots of snowmelt to contend with again this season as there was last year, causing record flooding.

[avid]

The latest progress report from Blancolirio. Juan entertaining and informative as ever.
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[onawah]

Here's what happens when dams aren't maintained:
Colombian President Admits Dam Failure Risk High! US Experts Confirm
6/4/18
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Hidroituango Dam Colombia SA UPDATE
blancolirio
Published on May 19, 2018
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[ThePythonicCow]

Hidroituango Dam Colombia SA UPDATE
blancolirio

blancolirio is definitely the "go to" guy to be reporting on this to us.

[onawah]

Still very much a work in progress...
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Oroville Incidents and Injuries
blancolirio
Published on Jun 9, 2018
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[onawah]

Oroville Update - 'DONE!' plus construction time lapse and press briefing shenanigans

blancolirio
Published on Nov 3, 2018

"Congratulations for sticking with the Blancolirio Channel throughout this amazing story of disaster and record breaking reconstruction. This story is not over yet...stay tuned."

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[avid]

Thanks Onawah for posting this. I love Juan’s positivity, the science, facts and historical detail - and especially his lovely music! Seems like this has been fixed, at last. He pulls no punches, great reportage.

[ThePythonicCow]

Oroville Update - 'DONE!' plus construction time lapse and press briefing shenanigans
Blancolirio's da bomb (http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/da-bomb) ! :)

[onawah]

Oroville UPDATE Jan 1 2019 Happy New Year!
blancolirio
Published on Jan 1, 2019
"Get caught up on the latest on the Oroville Spillways project in the Mighty Luscombe plus an exciting new project announcement..."
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[onawah]

Oroville UPDATE - When will the new Spillway be Used?
blancolirio
Published on Mar 3, 2019
Update in the Mighty Luscombe after heavy rains and snow in Feb. 2019.
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[Eric J (Viking)]

3-18-19
The $1.1 billion spent to repair Oroville Dam is failing as water is seeping through the rebuilt spillway threatens new mass evacuations over the risk of the dam collapsing.

According to national dam expert Scott Cahill of Watershed Services of Ohio, Oroville Dam is on the same failure track as in 2017, with visible water seepage trickling from the foot of the dam and dozens of points along the dam's principal spillway. Cahill warns that warming temperatures magnified by precipitation is a growing threat to the dam.

American Thinker reported on March 1 that the Sierra snow pack was at a record 113 inches, but another 44 inches fell in the next 10 days. With temperatures spiking this week to 75 degrees in the valleys and 41 degrees in the high mountains, dam inflows are running twice the outflows, and the water levels rose from 800 to 839 feet.

As America's tallest earthen dam with a 770-foot face and 901-foot top of the spillway, the lake behind the Oroville Dam can hold 3.5 million acre-feet of water. Its viability is a crucial element for the effectiveness of California's system of 1,250 flood-control dams.

The last time the water level rose to 815 feet in February 2017 and engineers began opening eight huge spillway gates to allow 100,000 acre-feet per second to race down the face of the dam, the spillway's midsection began seeping water at many points.

The difference of the huge water pressure on the dam and the lower pressure from water running down the spillway caused the huge cement plates to rise and fall. As water seepage turned into porting streams, the spillway buckled and then washed away.

Facing the risk of a 30-foot wall of water racing toward metropolitan Sacramento, the Butte County sheriff issued a mandatory evacuation of 188,000 residents.

The rains ebbed, and the dam survived, but the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission's after-action 537-page Independent Forensic Team Report found:

The Oroville Dam spillway incident was caused by a long-term systemic failure of the California Department of Water Resources (DWR), regulatory, and general industry practices to recognize and address inherent spillway design and construction weaknesses, poor bedrock quality, and deteriorated service spillway chute conditions.

California's potential liability for the 2017 Oroville Dam crisis was reinforced on March 14, when Sacramento Superior Court judge James McFetridge ordered discovery to begin in a lawsuit against the state for hundreds of millions in damages by the City of Oroville, dozens of farmers, businesses, and others during the two-month crisis.

The plaintiffs' motion included wide-ranging allegations of dam employees suffering from sexual and racial harassment, extensive theft of equipment by dam officials, filing fraudulent financial reports, shoddy maintenance records, and a pattern of actively destroying evidence to conceal liability and criminal actions.

President Trump has blamed California for systematically failing to fund known state infrastructure and safety needs, then billing the Federal Emergency Management Agency under its 75 percent reimbursement for national disaster relief claims. Based on the reports of incompetence, FEMA denied $306 million of California's first $639-million national disaster reimbursement requests for the 2017 Oroville Dam crisis.

http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/water/flooding/news.php?q=1553011826

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/complete_failure_at_oroville_dam.

Viking

[ThePythonicCow]

According to national dam expert Scott Cahill of Watershed Services of Ohio, Oroville Dam is on the same failure track as in 2017, with visible water seepage trickling from the foot of the dam and dozens of points along the dam's principal spillway.
I have seen this report on several of the websites I frequent, always based on what Scott Cahill said. Except for the one claim attributed to Scott Cahill, that the visible seepage means that the new spillway is at the same risk as was the old, failed, spillway, the rest of this article does not look into that claim any further, but focuses on how bad things would be if the dam did fail.

I doubt that a little water seepage coming up through the floor of the spillway means that the spillway is at risk of the same failures as we saw a couple of years ago. The new spillway apparently is built to much better standards. Yes, things would be really bad if the dam failed, however my present inclination is that Scott Cahill, or whomever wrote this article using what Scott supposedly said, is doing better at generating clicks on the Web, than they are are analyzing dam structures.

Until I hear someone like Blanco Liro get up in his Mighty Luscombe and start worrying, I'm not going to worry about the dam.

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P.S. -- Recall two years ago that Paul Preston and Scott Cahill sounded an alarm over leaks in the main earthen wall of the Orovill dam, as posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95955-Oroville-Dam...--California-Spring-2017-current-&p=1148753&viewfull=1#post1148753). That alarm turned out to be, so far as we can tell now, false and alarmist. I suspect that Scott Cahill is doing the same thing again, this time with the new spillway ... sounding a false alarm.

[avid]

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The latest situation from Blancolirio - Juan Browne

[Eric J (Viking)]

Oroville Dam: the bad dream that doesn't go away quietly.

Jim Stone, Freelance Journalist
http://82.221.129.208/.wm8.html

Opinion: Current worries about Oroville are legit

There are significant worries about the new spillway at Oroville, which can cause the entire dam to collapse with ease. They are:

1. Water leaking out the base of the dam (never a good thing).

2. Dirt coming out of drain pipes under the spillway, which should be totally clean water. If there is dirt, there is erosion, UNDER the spillway.

3. Water coming up between the slabs on the spillway. This means water can get under the slabs and lift them up.

4. Some slabs have already lifted enough to cause concern.

5. When tested, the entire spillway started to oscillate at a low frequency, thus causing them to shut it down before it shook itself apart.

6. Gates in such bad condition they cannot be shut off well enough to allow repair people to walk on the spillway without channeling the water away from where they are working.

7. An enormous snowpack in the mountains.

8. A dam with water 900 feet deep that has been allowed to get to less than 20 feet of overtopping, with a large amount of water on the way.

I am not ready to say it is going to blow yet, however, if there were no problems with the spillway, they should have been releasing water 65 feet ago. Why did they not do this? That sure looks suspicious.

Let's all hope the points above are only doom, they really do have it under control, and will be able to let it rip when needed, without consequence. One way or another, we are going to know, very soon. The water will definitely overtop this week or next week if they don't start using that spillway.

Viking

[avid]

Hopefully Juan Browne’s video above will allay these rumours....

[Eric J (Viking)]

5-21-19
Oroville Dam Rebuild - Live Stream CHAT - Scott & Lisa Cahill's NEW Report on the Oroville Dam 2019

Update to Oroville post below:

It appears the water on the emergency spillway is slowing down, but that can't explain why it was there at all. Either they ran water down it, or the plugged a leak, OR, somehow rain got on it and persisted for days with clear sky and hot sun. When it was still there this morning, I re-issued my heads up. It might have been a test to see how the water flows down it but I don't see how such a test could have been done so uniformly.

I still doubt there is anything wrong with the dam but this was well worth pointing out, just in case.



EXTREME ODDITY AT OROVILLE, PERSISTENT SINCE YESTERDAY

There is water going down the emergency spillway on the live feed.

I don't know what is up with this and if there is a problem or not, and it is not a lot of water yet but as far as I knew, that spillway is supposed to be perfectly dry. I am not talking about the water on the main spillway, which has gates that will always leak, I mean there is water on the secondary spillway when there should not be water there EVER unless the dam overtops. Very odd, and clearly seen. The emergency spillway looks like steps.

Oroville Dam Rebuild - Live Stream CHAT - Watch: https://youtu.be/ZjEO_XAMT58

Scott & Lisa Cahill's NEW Report on the Oroville Dam 2019: https://youtu.be/zOX7nX9kvc4

Cahill on Oroville Dam 5-18-19: https://youtu.be/sYKW-mbjS5w

Cahill: Oroville Dam Too Much Water Too Soon? 05-19-2019: https://youtu.be/NOswIaU1N88

GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN! THEY ARE CLEARING UNDER THE EMERGENCY SPILLWAY! SNOW MELT IS COMING! DON"T HESITATE- GET OUT NOW!

No work was done on the Tunnels, no work was done on the Gates, we have underground seepage under the Weir and did you see them finish all the drainage on the Main Spillway? The gravel used around the pipes is the wrong size and will flow into the pipes eventually because they can! We saw them put in the underground drainage pipes for the seepage under the Weir, so now we know the truth! There is seepage under the Weir! Remember the Non-Sinkhole? OKAY.......

No work was done on the Power Plant leaking and it is working on only 5 turbines. And the biggest question! Where the hell is all the water going to go after it goes down all those steps????!!! Now we can see two ports, but the water will still travel down the tree covered mountain and clog up the diversion pool with trees and debris. The Green Spot is still there and worse, there is liquefaction next to the Spillway and the Spillway is messed up again, please see my new video for proof.

Okay!

So, I'm here streaming again. I work full time, so depending on if they have the Cams on or not if we will be able to see. I will try. Time schedule on Cams.

My family and friends live in the path of the water if this thing comes down, so that is why I am broadcasting this, for them and you!

I take no donations and I am not monetized to make money off this channe

Sent by rod@disroot.org

Viking

[Denise/Dizi]

Oroville Update
blancolirio
Mar 16, 2018
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OMG I am going to have to tell Juan that he is on Avalon lol. He is a family friend.. He is constantly riding his dirt bike, flying his little airplane or wandering around the "Neighborhood", to let us locals know whats going on in the area.

So you all know, Juan Browne is a retired Air Force pilot, a private pilot, and a pilot for American Airlines.. He flies the Big Birds when he is "Really working".. (If you take an American Airlines flight, keep your eyes open, he may be the one getting you to your destination)...

This guy does this because he cares about his community..

(I removed some info, but you get the point) Juan and his family are all really wonderful folks..

[onawah]

Good to know, Dizi and thanks for the connection.
I lived in No. Cal. for 20 years and still have loved ones there, so between earthquakes and dams and fires (oh my!), I've been keeping a close eye on the Golden State, and Juan has been a great source of credible information.
I think a lot of Avalonians have grown quite fond of him and are grateful to him for allaying the fears that irresponsible sources have created.
Please give him our thanks and regards!


Oroville Update
blancolirio
Mar 16, 2018
M-mqkk8uNKs

OMG I am going to have to tell Juan that he is on Avalon lol. He is a family friend.. He is constantly riding his dirt bike, flying his little airplane or wandering around the "Neighborhood", to let us locals know whats going on in the area.

So you all know, Juan Browne is a retired Air Force pilot, a private pilot, and a pilot for American Airlines.. He flies the Big Birds when he is "Really working".. (If you take an American Airlines flight, keep your eyes open, he may be the one getting you to your destination)...

This guy does this because he cares about his community.. And he has a sense of humor like no other.. He is not just some little "Reporter".. This guy has a LOT going on.. And his family used to operate a Christmas tree farm in the area. He is a great friend... Not only does he do all of that? He likes to play around with music.. And he is hysterical.

I have gone flying with him and his Air Force buddies many times. So it is cool to see my friend being featured here on Avalon..

Sorry, I had to give you some input on who Juan is, he is one of my neighbors lol..

Back to topic.

[Inversion]

This video gives a good overview of what happened at the dam. They were in a catch 22 with the primary and secondary spillway. When they decided to switch to the second the erosion jeopardized the dam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxNM4DGBRMU

February 2017 saw one of the most serious dam-related engineering incidents in history with the failure of the service spillway at Oroville Dam. Whether they realized it or not, the people living and working downstream of Oroville Dam put their trust in the engineers, operators, and regulators to keep them safe and sound against disaster. In this case, that trust was broken. This video provides a summary of the event, including an explanation of the engineering details behind the failure.

[Gwin Ru]

Houseboats Evacuated From California's Lake Oroville Amid Megadrought (https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/houseboats-evacuated-californias-lake-oroville-amid-megadrought)

by Tyler Durden
Friday, Jun 04, 2021 - 10:40 PM

In Northern California's Butte County, at least 130 houseboats were evacuated from Lake Oroville as water levels fell to dangerously low levels.


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The lake's record low is 646 feet, and the state's Department of Water Resources expects that level to be breached in August. If that happens, public boat ramps would be inaccessible for the first due to low water levels. According to Aaron Wright, public safety chief for the Northern Buttes District of California State Parks, who spoke with AP (https://apnews.com/article/california-droughts-government-and-politics-science-business-76709d5854394905e0f46880ed6dab9c), the only boat access point to the lake would be an old dirt road constructed in the late 1960s.

Eric Smith, an Oroville City Council member and president of its chamber of commerce, said the lake would not be usable this year. Over a million visitors visit the area each year. Without visitors, enjoying boat parties, wakeboarding, or relaxing in the sun, the local economy could take a hit as it attempts to recover from the virus pandemic.

As of Wednesday, The Weather Channel (https://weather.com/photos/news/2021-06-02-houseboats-removed-oroville-lake-drought-california) states the lake was at 38% of capacity and 45% of the average early June water level. Low water levels forced park officials to order 130 houseboats to exit the lake in recent weeks.


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The mighty lake provides drinking water to 27 million people and water to 4-5 million acres of farmland. Severe drought conditions (https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/fallow-land-plagues-california-farmers-hit-drought) plague the area, and low snowpack levels from the Sierra Nevada have culminated into a perfect storm.

According to Jay Lund, co-director of the Center for Watershed Sciences at the University of California-Davis, the state's 1,500 reservoirs are 50% lower than average for this time of year.

Last month, Governor Gavin Newsom spoke about the urgent action needed to address possible water shortages.
"With the reality of climate change abundantly clear in California, we're taking urgent action to address acute water supply shortfalls in northern and central California while also building our water resilience to safeguard communities in the decades ahead," Newsom said on May 10. "We're working with local officials and other partners to protect public health and safety and the environment, and call on all Californians to help meet this challenge by stepping up their efforts to save water."
As a historic megadrought (https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/fallow-land-plagues-california-farmers-hit-drought), likely produced by La Nina, (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/la-nina-turbocharges-drought-brazil-worlds-oranges-coffee-risk) decimates the western half of the US, the federal government could declare (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/western-us-states-prepare-1st-ever-water-shortage-declaration-hoover-dam-hydroelectric) the first-ever water shortage in the coming months, which would prompt cutbacks in water usage for several western states.

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... that's one way of looking at it... however, there is Jim Stone's way of looking at it:

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AMBUSH: California government draining all the water (http://82.221.129.208/.um6.html) into the ocean ON PURPOSE. (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-27-record-breaking-drought-california-officials-draining-reservoirs.html)

I busted them for doing this in 2012 or so - the photo to the right is a leftover from that report. This time they flushed half of a 7 year supply of water during the covid scam. If they are up to this again, well, remember what that guy from India said yesterday? If you missed that, scroll down, if they want a drought to destroy the food supply the way that Indian guy said, they would have to drain the dams, and they are.

UPDATE: Oroville still has about half it's water, (http://oroville.lakesonline.com/Level/Calendar/2021/06/) but it is indeed being drained quickly

700 feet does not mean 70 percent of water is left, the top 200 feet hold about half.

Lake Shasta is also half way drained (http://shasta.uslakes.info/Level/)

Though it says it is at 955 feet when max is 1067, empty is at 550 feet, with the top 100 feet holding half the water when full at 1067.

FOLKS, THIS IS WHAT VOTE FRAUD LOOKS LIKE - dams in California being drained ON PURPOSE to create disaster. An enemy stole the election, not only the federal election, but the California governor election also. They hate you. They want America destroyed. What will they do as a result? Drain the dams! That's a lot less visible than blowing them up.

Reference:


Despite record-breaking drought conditions, California officials are draining reservoirs (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-27-record-breaking-drought-california-officials-draining-reservoirs.html)

[Denise/Dizi]

Lake Oroville got a facelift... I got to fly over it today with Juan Browne, of Blancolirio , and will be posting images later if the smoke wasn't too bad to show them.... Wow, it sure was low....

update...

truly I only post videos and images to facebook, so I recognize that many will not use that site. Can someone suggest a place to upload the videos so I can share links of the flight and the air images we saw, as I was on a personal flight, so he was not taking video for his site on that flight.

(My birthday is coming so we went to lunch in Nevada, but decided to buzz town and see the local lakes to see how they were doing)...

[Harmony]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111906-Possible-image-attachment-space-problems&p=1374977&viewfull=1#post1374977
Hi Denise,

There is a little about uploading images to Imgur at the link above. Please let us know if you are having any problems, just post your question in one of the threads about images in the Forum Technical Q&A section and I am sure there will be quite a few members with good suggestions.


So glad to hear you are out and about after the difficut times you have recently experienced, and looking forward to seeing your pictures:heart:

[onawah]

State’s Incompetence Leads to Major Water Loss
3,990 views Aug 9, 2022
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Time Bomb
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(Oroville is back in the news again and the news isn't good.)

"Hello, welcome to timeBomb and the Lake Oroville update for August 2022. In today's video we will take a look at the current status of Lake Oroville, the second largest reservoir in California. After we review the water level statistics we examine why a state representative accused the Department of Water Resources of mistakenly releasing an extra 700,000 acre-feet of water from the state’s reservoirs."

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