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Maia Gabrial
12th February 2017, 21:46
I've been watching the DAPL protests with a lot of interest.
Like everyone, I hade hoped that Trump would be a man of intelligence and positive action (not profit)... But he has proven to be the opposite.

Well folks, I found this website that explains a lot about his decision.

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/40551-donald-trump-is-a-dapl-investor

TRUMP IS AN INVESTOR!

Now, is it just me or is this an outrageous conflict of interest? He is grossly misusing his authority as president for his own profit? Add this to the growing list of unConstitutional actions....

Has anyone heard anyone mention his part in the pipeline???? Well, now you know....

This information should go viral....

onawah
12th February 2017, 21:53
Trump Dropped Stocks In Company Behind The Dakota Pipeline
CHRIS WHITE
11/27/2016
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/27/trump-dropped-stocks-in-company-behind-the-dakota-pipeline/




President-elect Donald Trump dumped his shares in the company behind the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) last summer as demonstrations against the project raised to a fevered pitch.

Trump sold his shares in Energy Transfer Partners, the company working to construct the multi-billion dollar project, the president-elect’s spokeswoman Hope Hicks told the Washington Post. ETP recently agreed to a $20 billion merger with Sunoco in an all-stock transaction.

The financial disclosure form filed in May of 2015 shows Trump dumped between $500,000 and $1 million into the company. The information was disclosed in Trump’s filing to the Federal Election Commission.

Trump tossed another $500,000 in Phillips 66, which will have a 25 percent ownership in the project once completed. He reported making upward of $50,000 in interest, dividends and capital gains from the pipeline.


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The $3.8 billion line has come under withering scrutiny from anti-oil pipeline protesters and American Indian tribes.

Standing Rock Sioux tribe, one of the tribes spearheading opposition, argues the pipeline’s construction would trample on tribal lands and destroy artifacts. They also believe it could potentially poison waterways, including rivers such as the Missouri River and Lake Oahe.

Many of the same groups that opposed the Keystone XL pipeline have joined the fight against the DAPL, which would bring 470,000 barrels of Bakken crude oil per day from western North Dakota to southern Illinois.

Trump’s decision to drop the stocks could help him avoid allegations that his role in the company constitutes a conflict of interest; he still must find a way to navigate similar conflicts of interest popping up among his possible future cabinet members.

One of Trump’s possible cabinet members – former Texas Gov. Rick Perry — has served as a director of ETP since early 2015, and owns $100,000 worth of stock in the company, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission form filed in January.

The Texas Republican also serves on the board of Sunoco Logistics Partners LP, which announced Monday it was purchasing ETP for a hefty $21 billion. Perry must determine whether to place his stock in a blind trust to avoid conflicts of interest going forward.

President Barack Obama momentarily stopped pipeline construction in September, potentially leaving DAPL’s fate up to the Trump administration.

ETP’s CEO Kelcey Warren’s decision to shovel more than $100,000 to elect Trump. Warren dumped another $66,000 into the Republican National Committee.

Warren contributed $1.53 million in donations to super PACs and $252,300 to individual campaigns and the GOP, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/27/trump-dropped-stocks-in-company-behind-the-dakota-pipeline/#ixzz4YVhjwLV0

Confirmation here:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/05/trump-sells-his-stake-in-dakota-access-pipeline-developer.html

Maia Gabrial
12th February 2017, 22:34
Thank you, onawah. I appreciate the links. But now it doesn't make any sense. Why's he doing it? Is it that he hates Native Americans so much that he wants to upset and hurt them? All the Natives are being treated like crap by all of the law enforcements. Even the arrests are a joke...

I was under the impression that all reservations were sovereign land. And they can't be thrown off their own land. Or that anyone (even the govt) can't interfere with tribal matters. Who the hell do the pipeline people and investors think they are anyway?

Let's hope that the Trump administration doesn't go back on the Treaties. That would be a real slap in the face. And it seems like Trump's the one that would try such a thing...

There was a quote by Trump (in VT, I think) saying that all of the people at Standing Rock should be run over by the heavy equipment because it worked for Netanyahoo against the Palestinians. The man certainly is vulgar....

onawah
12th February 2017, 22:49
He's a businessman first, I would say, and certainly not known for his sensitivity!
I really am not so sure that he is making those kinds of decisions himself, in any case, but just taking orders...
I guess only time will tell, though currently there is enough discussion and controversy on his motivations and role in the current theater to keep the debate going for another year at least.
We never seem to see these things clearly except in hindsight.

Bill Ryan
13th February 2017, 00:22
There was a quote by Trump (in VT, I think) saying that all of the people at Standing Rock should be run over by the heavy equipment because it worked for Netanyahoo against the Palestinians. The man certainly is vulgar....

Well, I thought I should go look it up.


http://veteranstoday.com/2017/02/01/trump-run-em-over-with-tanks-netanyahu-does-it

The quote appears in the headline, but nowhere else in the article — and is nowhere referenced.

It seems like something Veterans Today (who are vehemently anti-Trump, and presumably strongly pro-Clinton) invented for sensational rhetorical purposes.

A Voice from the Mountains
13th February 2017, 00:30
Millions of people have gas pipelines running right into their houses in suburban neighborhoods. They can leak and explode too, and there's cases of it happening, but it's exceedingly rare and particularly when people are actually doing their jobs and using high-quality materials.

They already announced once that they were going to change the pipeline's route to make the protesters happy, but behind all of this is more than just some people who really care about a strip of ground getting dug up for an oil pipeline. There are the same violent radical protesters mixing in with the people at the pipeline as have been busting stuff up everywhere else.

Increasing domestic oil production will lower the price of oil and give the US more energy autonomy.If there's a disaster and oil spills it's not the end of the world either if the administration uses the right resources. There's a guy, I think his last name is Stametz, who promotes little-known properties of various mushrooms and one of these is a mushroom soaks up oil and breaks it down into harmless materials. All of this anti-energy stuff is all about control.

Bob
13th February 2017, 00:33
Thats a really good post Brian, thank you for that. Why can't people understand that? Do you suppose it is emotional programming being used on them?

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2017, 14:45
So I guess fracking is all right then too

Just so long as domestic cheap oil keeps flowing

Very practical, lets run it over scared land and pristine aquifers and take a chance

Hey, we have gas lines into our houses and that's been working fine

It's all hype, there has never been any leaks of significance to this point...

onawah
13th February 2017, 15:02
I don't think it's all about control at all. I think it's very much about disrupting the natural energy grids of the earth and causing more instability and earthquakes, and polluting the water, and disempowering people who want to protect the earth.

Millions of people have gas pipelines running right into their houses in suburban neighborhoods. They can leak and explode too, and there's cases of it happening, but it's exceedingly rare and particularly when people are actually doing their jobs and using high-quality materials.

They already announced once that they were going to change the pipeline's route to make the protesters happy, but behind all of this is more than just some people who really care about a strip of ground getting dug up for an oil pipeline. There are the same violent radical protesters mixing in with the people at the pipeline as have been busting stuff up everywhere else.

Increasing domestic oil production will lower the price of oil and give the US more energy autonomy.If there's a disaster and oil spills it's not the end of the world either if the administration uses the right resources. There's a guy, I think his last name is Stametz, who promotes little-known properties of various mushrooms and one of these is a mushroom soaks up oil and breaks it down into harmless materials. All of this anti-energy stuff is all about control.

amor
14th February 2017, 02:51
An important thought. If the USA has come to the point where in order to get oil to run this monster of internal combustion engines, etc., by pouring concentrated sulfuric acid into the earth followed by equally dangerous caustic substances, not caring where those chemicals will seep into pure underground waters for us to consume at some later date and place, then it is really time to create new jobs by turning the present combustion engines into electrical engines and getting rid of oil and its connected problems systematically.

BMJ
14th February 2017, 13:38
But now it doesn't make any sense. Why's he doing it?

Firstly, Trump sold all his interests in the DAPL and is no longer involved financially in his businesses. Therefore for Trump there is no conflict of interests in his decision making.

Trump did it because he has come in at the 11th hour as president of the USA and is pulling out all stops in an attempt to save the USA from financial destruction.

By taking all immediate actions he can including the DAPL approval, (every little bit counts), he is at least cushioning the US economy from a possible financial collapse and in the long term will be turning around the US economy.

I agree standing up against the DAPL is a noble cause, but the situation is dire in the USA so the choice is yours food on the table or being green? Take your pick.

william r sanford72
14th February 2017, 15:34
The current Path WE are all on isn't going to last...most of us feel this...logic and thought would agree Yes?...food on the table equals/needed clean groundwater and healthy dirt..environment...it isn't noble being green its an effort to save our ass.Pluss...Money/OIL taste like crap.:bigsmile:

Wiiliam.

onawah
14th February 2017, 15:56
It can't even be typified as a stopgap measure. Cleaning up after the many disasters caused by fracking is far more costly to taxpayers, not to mention the environment, than investing even in wind and solar, etc. though of course zero point technology would solve all those problems. The mentality of most businessmen is focused on quick profits, with no foresight into what quick profits cost in the long run. We can't afford such short sightedness any longer.

But now it doesn't make any sense. Why's he doing it?

Firstly, Trump sold all his interests in the DAPL and is no longer involved financially in his businesses. Therefore for Trump there is no conflict of interests in his decision making.

Trump did it because he has come in at the 11th hour as president of the USA and is pulling out all stops in an attempt to save the USA from financial destruction.

By taking all immediate actions he can including the DAPL approval, (every little bit counts), he is at least cushioning the US economy from a possible financial collapse and in the long term will be turning around the US economy.

I agree standing up against the DAPL is a noble cause, but the situation is dire in the USA so the choice is yours food on the table or being green? Take your pick.

TargeT
14th February 2017, 18:51
Now, is it just me or is this an outrageous conflict of interest? He is grossly misusing his authority as president for his own profit? Add this to the growing list of unConstitutional actions....
.

Why do you think every single person in congress/senate & certainly the president leave office as multi-millionaires?

This is not a new thing, been going on forever. (though apparently he backed out now i'm reading? THAT is a new move..)


.it isn't noble being green its an effort to save our ass.

That certainly is the meme.

What is the reality though?

Bob
14th February 2017, 19:06
The "bakken formation" pipeline (DAPL) is for moving a goodly amount of high grade hydrocarbon out of the Bakken formation and to some key refiners..

What I have to chuckle about, while all that drama is going on, West Texas, the Permian basin "play" is a "tight shale" similar to Bakken in North Dakota, however it is much much bigger, so big in fact the feed coming down from North Dakota can be considered relatively meaningless when gross profits are looked at..

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/11/15/big-oil-feds-call-west-texas-deposit-largest-history/

When the drama is being flared up in a certain location, take a look elsewhere, where the REAL story is unfolding.. :)


http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/11/Midland-Basin-Map.jpg

Chester
15th February 2017, 03:33
Thank you, onawah. I appreciate the links. But now it doesn't make any sense. Why's he doing it?

The answer is simple. He believes he can achieve energy independence for the US. Why would he think that's important? Because then foreign governments the US would otherwise depend on no longer hold that leverage. This allows the US the opportunity to strengthen on their own such that perhaps then, real alternative energy sources such as many that are currently on lock down because of the restrictions on their patents could be materialized. And then the US can lead the world in real, actual clean energy on their own terms.

Now, us veteran conspiracy world authorities know that if he thinks this... then he's delusional because we also know they'll kill him, all his family and anyone else they see as worth the effort to kill.

But this doesn't stop him from believing he could pull it off. So far I have seen him "pull off" all sorts of stuff no one imagined he could much less would so who knows.

Chester
15th February 2017, 03:37
Thank you, onawah. I appreciate the links. But now it doesn't make any sense. Why's he doing it? Is it that he hates Native Americans so much that he wants to upset and hurt them? All the Natives are being treated like crap by all of the law enforcements. Even the arrests are a joke...

I was under the impression that all reservations were sovereign land. And they can't be thrown off their own land. Or that anyone (even the govt) can't interfere with tribal matters. Who the hell do the pipeline people and investors think they are anyway?

Let's hope that the Trump administration doesn't go back on the Treaties. That would be a real slap in the face. And it seems like Trump's the one that would try such a thing...

There was a quote by Trump (in VT, I think) saying that all of the people at Standing Rock should be run over by the heavy equipment because it worked for Netanyahoo against the Palestinians. The man certainly is vulgar....

Perhaps we should stop reading and watching fake news. stop listening to anyone, friends or not, who regurgitate fake news.

Chester
15th February 2017, 03:43
Thats a really good post Brian, thank you for that. Why can't people understand that? Do you suppose it is emotional programming being used on them?

If programming is used on someone... anyone... and we know the odds of this happening is all but 100% and we know that there are dozens if not hundreds of ways to do this then what is the simple solution each and every one of us has at our individual disposal... something an individual can employ all on their own... the single thing that can overcome such programming?

Take some personal responsibility to think for yourself. Take personal responsibility for the thoughts one chooses to own and then act upon.

Simple.

Each of us should seriously start to focus on that, yes? Because if we do, all this plethora of programmings fall to the floor like the bullets that flew at Neo in Matrix 1.

BMJ
15th February 2017, 12:15
The answer is simple. He believes he can achieve energy independence for the US. Why would he think that's important? Because then foreign governments the US would otherwise depend on no longer hold that leverage. This allows the US the opportunity to strengthen on their own such that perhaps then, real alternative energy sources such as many that are currently on lock down because of the restrictions on their patents could be materialized. And then the US can lead the world in real, actual clean energy on their own terms.

Now we are getting some where, the bigger picture.

Also the USA self dependence will starve the finances and influence of those countries involved in terrorism, and allow the USA to go after those countries involved in 911 and ISIL.


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Ernie Nemeth
17th February 2017, 20:05
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the cosmos. There are two hydrogen atoms for every oxygen atom in water. Hydrogen needs oxygen to burn. Need I say more?

A car that runs on water is not running on water. It is running on the disassociated elements of hydrogen and oxygen - the perfect fuel.

As far as a purely hydrogen car goes, there are problems in transporting the fuel. Hydrogen is highly explosive. But a car that can separate hydrogen and oxygen from water need only carry water and make only enough fuel as needed by the engine - an "on demand" production of fuel allows for the safety of the passengers

TargeT
17th February 2017, 20:35
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the cosmos. There are two hydrogen atoms for every oxygen atom in water. Hydrogen needs oxygen to burn. Need I say more?

A car that runs on water is not running on water. It is running on the disassociated elements of hydrogen and oxygen - the perfect fuel.

As far as a purely hydrogen car goes, there are problems in transporting the fuel. Hydrogen is highly explosive. But a car that can separate hydrogen and oxygen from water need only carry water and make only enough fuel as needed by the engine - an "on demand" production of fuel allows for the safety of the passengers

Solution:

Metallic Hydrogen.... (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/01/a-breakthrough-in-high-pressure-physics/)

and it's not just a solution, it's a exponential improvement on "combustible fuels"; I think we have a scale-ability issue with production still, I'm confident that will be overcome & getting into space will become exponentially safer and cheaper.

Ernie Nemeth
17th February 2017, 20:43
Without reading the article, yet, metallic hydrogen is hydrogen forced into a crystalline structure (since that is the definition of a metal) , usually by pressure. Such a system would require a great deal of weight to contain the pressurized fuel. Unless they have solved the problem of containment some other way. Fuel cells were one such attempt, with drawbacks.

The reason I emphasise my own knowledge is because what I am seeing is more and more new science being touted as the solution but without incorporating that knowledge back into the whole. Comprehensive comprehension is the only protection against "psi-ops", "wishful thinking", "conspiracy theories", and "woo woo news".

Now I'll see how I did...by reading the article

Ernie Nemeth
17th February 2017, 20:58
If you have a room temperature superconductor, the hydrogen fuel would be moot. It would lead directly to accessible, unlimited and abundant energy for all. It would herald in the age of Free Energy.

TargeT
17th February 2017, 21:08
If you have a room temperature superconductor, the hydrogen fuel would be moot. It would lead directly to accessible, unlimited and abundant energy for all. It would herald in the age of Free Energy.


well, suposedly once metallic hydrogen is made it's a "super stable" substance, and predicted to be a room temperature superconductor. (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/195036/20170130/metallic-hydrogen-how-room-temperature-superconductor-could-revolutionize-technology.htm)

so yes to all of that, but the "fuel" portion of it will still be needed for space travel IMO..

riding an explosion to space is still our best option.

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Ernie Nemeth
19th February 2017, 20:13
The pipeline is a gift to grease the wheels of the Trump Agenda.

He needs big oil backing if he wants to get anything done. And he needs the backing of the Jewish League. And he needs the backing, at least behind the scenes, of his two neighboring countries. And he needs the support of his Nato allies. These are the motivations behind his actions.

Once each of these get theirs Trump can get his in return.

At least that's how I see it playing out in broad strokes.

Maia Gabrial
26th February 2017, 03:08
Perhaps we should stop reading and watching fake news. stop listening to anyone, friends or not, who regurgitate fake news.

We all regurgitate one thing or another. So, who do we trust to give us the truth? It ain't all fake news btw. That's just the way they control people. Mocking is a form of mind control. So if we stop being aware of any news, real or fake, we'll be at more risk of being controlled....

Similar to this control tactic is like anyone who suspects deception is labelled "conspiracy theorists" as if that were a bad thing....I'd rather they be called WATCH DOGS, looking out for everyone....

I trust VT with more truth than any other sites. BTW they didn't like Clinton either.

turiya
26th February 2017, 03:53
I trust VT with more truth than any other sites. BTW they didn't like Clinton either.

I would respond by having you view the following Post #1698 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1124852&viewfull=1#post1124852) on the Transmission into Trump thread of which I will repost below...


________________________________


Gordon Duff, of all people, says he's currently working for the Trump transition team, to help sort out his worrying and illogical foreign policy outlook. He's no great Trump fan and says some brutal things about the incoming President elect's problems to get sorted.

[ Rense show interview ]

MP3 file to play or download here:

https://app.box.com/s/yeuvcr8dnoyff4hn784tdep1wl4qlb4i

Thanks norman - I really can't believe that Gordon Duff is on Trump's Transition Team. No way. I mean, I use to appreciate what he offers, but then there's been times when he self-admits to either telling absolute BS, says what people want to hear, or says what is going on just to rile people up. Its gotta be a bunch of BS. He's been a Hillary Clinton supporter from the get-go. Promoting her throughout the election process. He's incessantly & continually tried to paint Trump in many ways with a negative light. Ties w/ the Russian mafia... is just one aspect.

In this video, Gordon Duff claims Trump is a pathological liar & a scum bag, and has Saudi agents working for him. John Kerry has been a great Secretary of State, and would have made a great president. Clinton is the most qualified & an outstanding candidate for president. Clinton Foundation is outstanding, whereas the Trump Foundation is utterly corrupt & is getting miliions & millions of dollars from human traffickers.

So, I seriously doubt that he has got a position on the Trump Team...
Makes one wonder just WHO? the real pathological liar is, here...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbyEgHaF6jM__________________________________________


In the following vid @ 3:30, Stew Webb claims that Veterans Today is a CIA operation run by Gordon Duff, a.k.a. Bob Foote.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNLOopOAbU?t=3m30s


So really, Maia Gabrial, Go Fish!

awakeningmom
26th February 2017, 03:55
The answer is simple. He believes he can achieve energy independence for the US. Why would he think that's important? Because then foreign governments the US would otherwise depend on no longer hold that leverage. This allows the US the opportunity to strengthen on their own such that perhaps then, real alternative energy sources such as many that are currently on lock down because of the restrictions on their patents could be materialized. And then the US can lead the world in real, actual clean energy on their own terms.

Now we are getting some where, the bigger picture.

Also the USA self dependence will starve the finances and influence of those countries involved in terrorism, and allow the USA to go after those countries involved in 911 and ISIL.


The green future:

Hydrogen cars – everything you need to know

JA4TYSST2I4

Benefits:
- Zero hazardous emissions;
- The only emission water;
- Comparable performance to petroleum powered vehicles;
- Over 400miles range;
- Filling the fuel tank as per a conventional car in ease and time, about 3 minutes;
- Hydrogen can be made at the petroleum station, no need to transport hazardous fuels; &
- In case of accidents a lower risk of ignition due to absence of petroleum.

"allow the US to go after those countries involved in 911 and ISIL?" You mean itself?

BMJ
26th February 2017, 05:46
"allow the US to go after those countries involved in 911 and ISIL?" You mean itself?

The likes of Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Great Britain have been strong allies of the USA since at least WW2, and I would expect these countries to commit their resources in going after the perpetrators of 911 and ISIL terrorism just as they had during the Gulf Wars, Vietnam, Korea and other wars.

awakeningmom
27th February 2017, 07:12
"allow the US to go after those countries involved in 911 and ISIL?" You mean itself?

The likes of Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Great Britain have been strong allies of the USA since at least WW2, and I would expect these countries to commit their resources in going after the perpetrators of 911 and ISIL terrorism just as they had during the Gulf Wars, Vietnam, Korea and other wars.

Sorry but I am totally confused by your post. You cannot possibly mean that you buy into the official 911 narrative if you are on this website? Who do you think is behind 911 and ISIL??

BMJ
4th March 2017, 16:13
Sorry but I am totally confused by your post. You cannot possibly mean that you buy into the official 911 narrative if you are on this website? Who do you think is behind 911 and ISIL??

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