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A Voice from the Mountains
17th February 2017, 06:58
Some new video clips have been found on a website called "WorldCorp" which has its own unfolding and very odd story. But these short clips themselves have been the discussion of people over at Voat for a couple of days now and it is some disturbing stuff.

The theory is that these video clips are being leaked from intelligence sources, drip-style, and whoever is leaking them has the full incriminating tapes.

I'm not going to link to the video clips directly here (it's hard to see much in them but the audio is bad enough) but I will link to the Voat pages for those who want to find them.

NOTE: These link to Voat threads, which in turn link to disturbing audio and video clips! The clips have audio from a man who sounds exactly like John Podesta, yelling things demonically at a screaming and crying child. There is pretty obviously a very distressed child in these short video clips.

It is perfectly safe to visit the Voat threads but from there you will be clicking on anything else at your own discretion, and the material may be disconcerting.

Voat thread: Worldcorp "Each Day I Grow Some More" video - does he directly say "I'm John Podesta"? (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1650235)
Voat thread: John Podesta Interview Voice Matches the Torture Video Voice (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1645244)
Voat thread: Voice comparisons of John Podesta and video of child abuse (can anyone verify?) (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1649088)
Voat thread: Cleaned up audio of podesta abuse (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1653009)
Voat thread: John Podesta says his own name in child abuse video (0:37). Yes, really (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1652009)
Voat thread: Here you go...ISOLATED adult voice (no child/safe to listen!) compared to Podesta's voice (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1647019)


So if you dig through those links you'll find the relevant material.

There are other bizarre videos from "WorldCorp" that apparently show the head of some freakish religious organization doing completely crazy things that I hardly even want to mention here. In one of the videos he puts a duster up his butt like it's a tail and crawls around on the ground naked. This is a middle-aged to older man with a graying beard. He does other things in other videos that I'm not even going to talk about here.

Anyway, in one of the videos you can see a man sitting reading a newspaper. You only see him from behind but here is the image:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/6aa2073a7caf4b72b35c7821b23476fb.png


So who is this guy? I'm not going to speculate too much but I think it should be obvious to most people familiar with the subject as to who this looks like. This is all very new info, from the past few days, so we'll have to see where it goes.

Again, we may be seeing a new and much more devastating form of the Wikileaks-style drip feed. When the Podesta emails started coming out on Wikileaks, who here knew what we were being shown? At first I thought they were just trolling him and there was nothing significant in there. But then people found the pizza code talk and the discussions of adults putting young kids in hot tubs for "entertainment."

The researchers on Voat may a good case that whoever selected these short clips and put them online must have the longer versions. And whoever cut these clips out selectively picked a part where, in the audio, the adult singing the children's song sounds as if he is about to say his own name. He also demands the child to say his name, and it sounds like the child at first says either "John" or "Darren." John is, of course, the first name of John Podesta.


So I'm not sure what to make of all of this yet because it's still brand new, but if it's what it looks like it is, then this is extremely devastating stuff that's starting to come out in drips and it may not be long until SHTF.

Ashy67
17th February 2017, 07:46
I went on to the links but couldn't listen for very long , I just found it too disturbing. Anyone who hurts children should be hung . Thats not very spiritual of me I know but thats how I feel.

A Voice from the Mountains
17th February 2017, 07:51
Whoever that is in the video clips, I'm convinced that it's totally real, but the question is "who is it?"

The fact that it sounds exactly like John Podesta... If it is really him, and someone really is intentionally leaking these clips, someone probably will find him and hang him.


The other weirdo I was mentioning above, who is linked with the source of these leaks somehow, is apparently Dr. Gary Lee Munroe Barney, supposedly CEO of Worldcorp Enterprises and head of the Universal Life Church. I don't know anything about these people but I don't particularly care to know either, after seeing this grown man crawl around on his hands and knees wagging a duster sticking out of his bum like he's some kind of animal.

Here is the Voat thread digging into this guy and his link to these videos which are being leaked that appear to be of John Podesta:

May Have Found Potential Link Between PODESTA & Worldcorp CHILD TRAFFICKING VIDEOS, Plus Info On Dr. Gary Lee Munroe Barney (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1653161)

A Voice from the Mountains
17th February 2017, 08:02
James Woods (with half a million Twitter followers) just tweeted this earlier this evening in response to Podesta's recent tweets: "Don't want to imagine what's been slapping John Podesta's face lately #PizzaGate #SpiritCooking #SausageAfficianado"

http://i.imgur.com/J95sWf4.jpg


It may be worth mentioning that until recently, John Podesta had not tweeted since December. And before that, I don't think he'd tweeted since around the time of the election. So he has really been clamming up on Twitter but then suddenly in the past few days suddenly felt the need to defend himself. Defend himself in regards to all the Pizzagate accusations? No, he has still been absolutely silent on that subject. Not a single denial or anything.

No, what Podesta has been defensive about lately is the allegation that he said disparaging things about Hillary Clinton in Wikileaks emails. Why would he be so defensive of that? Is he afraid of getting offed by the witch? Maybe he should be more concerned with the FBI busting down his door and raiding the underground bunker in his mansion.

7alon
17th February 2017, 08:18
I went on to the links but couldn't listen for very long , I just found it too disturbing. Anyone who hurts children should be hung . Thats not very spiritual of me I know but thats how I feel.

I think your point of view is very understandable. As a matter of fact, I am only against the death penalty because of the potential for the wrongfully accused being put to death. There have been many cases where this has happened. I remember either last year or a year before, a man did an AMA on reddit who was in jail for nearly two decades for a murder he didn't commit.

pueblo
17th February 2017, 09:45
In the 'Fatherhood' video the child apparently calls the man 'John' and 'Skippy'. Skippy is John Podesta's 'evil twin', alter ego...


John Podesta Talks About His “Evil Twin” Skippy

To fully understand how John Podesta is managing the complex Democratic takeover of the federal government, you have to be familiar with Skippy, the evil twin.

Anyone who has worked for Podesta in the past decade knows Skippy, who first appeared during Podesta’s eventful years as chief of staff in the Clinton White House. As scandal rocked the end of that presidency, staffers knew they had better come prepared to meetings. Otherwise, nurturing mentor John would be replaced by Skippy — Podesta’s quick-tempered, edgy and sarcastic alter ego.

“You haven’t seen him in this meeting, have you?” the transition co-chairman for Barack Obama says with a laugh, noting that many a reporter has met Skippy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/25/john-podesta-talks-about_n_146272.html

betoobig
17th February 2017, 09:56
May all this satanist be taken to the void....

kirolak
17th February 2017, 10:32
Is there any chance that all these things were staged in order to discredit Podesta for taking too close a look at UFOs? In either case, it makes me feel I just want out of this world. . .

PurpleLama
17th February 2017, 14:36
Whoever made those videos is very, very sick. I would like to issue a warning about subliminal in the videos, I have a strong opinion that there is some kind of mind control type tech woven in some of these but I wouldn't even ask someone to digitally dissect one, so disturbing is the imagery.

I was feeling sick with rage after clicking through the playlist, don't watch them unless you think you have a thick shell.

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May all this satanist be taken to the void....

The Christian Hell doesn't sound like all that bad a place to send these folks....

PurpleLama
17th February 2017, 14:39
In the 'Fatherhood' video the child apparently calls the man 'John' and 'Skippy'. Skippy is John Podesta's 'evil twin', alter ego...


John Podesta Talks About His “Evil Twin” Skippy

To fully understand how John Podesta is managing the complex Democratic takeover of the federal government, you have to be familiar with Skippy, the evil twin.

Anyone who has worked for Podesta in the past decade knows Skippy, who first appeared during Podesta’s eventful years as chief of staff in the Clinton White House. As scandal rocked the end of that presidency, staffers knew they had better come prepared to meetings. Otherwise, nurturing mentor John would be replaced by Skippy — Podesta’s quick-tempered, edgy and sarcastic alter ego.

“You haven’t seen him in this meeting, have you?” the transition co-chairman for Barack Obama says with a laugh, noting that many a reporter has met Skippy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/25/john-podesta-talks-about_n_146272.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/24/AR2008112403005.html

This is the original article in full.

Olam
17th February 2017, 15:03
Whoever made those videos is very, very sick. I would like to issue a warning about subliminal in the videos, I have a strong opinion that there is some kind of mind control type tech woven in some of these but I wouldn't even ask someone to digitally dissect one, so disturbing is the imagery.

I was feeling sick with rage after clicking through the playlist, don't watch them unless you think you have a thick shell.

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May all this satanist be taken to the void....

The Christian Hell doesn't sound like all that bad a place to send these folks....

Thanks, did not listen and will not. Strong emotions opens doorways. To all the empaths here, if you don't already know, we are all vulnerable when listening to things like that....be careful.
I bless and send loving thoughts to the children in there.

RunningDeer
17th February 2017, 15:48
Whoever made those videos is very, very sick. I would like to issue a warning about subliminal in the videos, I have a strong opinion that there is some kind of mind control type tech woven in some of these but I wouldn't even ask someone to digitally dissect one, so disturbing is the imagery.

I was feeling sick with rage after clicking through the playlist, don't watch them unless you think you have a thick shell.

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May all this satanist be taken to the void....

The Christian Hell doesn't sound like all that bad a place to send these folks....
I couldn't click off it fast enough. I felt an instant stomach ache and rage, a tear someone limb by limb rage. Half hour after, I slept for five or six hours. I had the weirdest dreams that I couldn't wake up from. Ones with themes and places I never, never experience. That video is still in my head and a deep sadness.

(My gut also said it's real and tech was added.)

Innocent Warrior
17th February 2017, 17:08
Poor babies. :(

Whomever that monster is, if ID proven, he's a dead man. This is what they do? Why? WTF is wrong with these people.

Libico
17th February 2017, 17:12
I watched the original video used in the comparison with Podesta going off on Project Vertias - it was enough to send me into a mood that I haven't managed to pull out of six hours later. Despite the fact that I usually manage to remain somewhat detached when seeing these kinds of things, I don't think anyone with a shred of humanity would be able to prevent feeling pain and rage at this. I plan on meditating later tonight to try and cleanse the negativity received from watching this... and I have been hugging my kids a lot today.

I sincerely hope this gets properly investigated - the arrest last week in California of the human trafficking ring (http://ktla.com/2017/02/01/474-arrested-28-sexually-exploited-children-rescued-during-statewide-human-trafficking-operation-lasd/) may be the first step to getting this the proper exposure it deserves as I don't doubt some relation can be found.

onawah
17th February 2017, 17:29
I posted a long article yesterday in the Channeled Information subforum, and the following is an excerpt from that. It may be "channeled" or it may just be information that Lisa Renee has gathered herself from other sources, but in any event, I think it's quite accurate.
From: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95466-Poverty-Consciousness-by-ES-Ascension-News-Lisa-Renee&p=1134745&viewfull=1#post1134745


Witnessing the Harm Committed

During this year and ongoing, many of us will be put in situations where transparency is required, making a choice of personal consent is necessary, and we will come to witness many different levels of harm that have been perpetrated over eons of time.

The most challenging aspect we are facing is that we will be given the opportunity to see up close and personal the inhumane treatment, the deliberate brutality and torture that humans have been subjected to by the choices that have been made by others, whether human or nonhuman and for whatever reason. How many people have refused to look at where intentional harm is occurring because it is believed to be too ugly and dark, and yet in silence, continue to allow the slavery or torture of humanity and children to continue unchallenged and left unaccountable. The world power structures, the governments of this earth have monetized the suffering and torture of humanity. The world economy is dependent on the suffering and slavery of humans in order to produce mass profits based in the continual complicit behaviors of engaging in criminal conduct and inhumane treatment. Many of the storefronts or shill organizations are dressed up and labeling themselves as serving humanitarian causes, receiving massive amounts of contribution money that is not given to the people that need help, but instead to the corporations that make massive profits from disasters and war. Multinational child service charities connected to powerful politics that are so compartmentalized that they secretly are fronting massively profitable pedophilia rings.

Therefore, we will be faced with making choices of consent in what we are willing to know as the ugly truth that exists in the hidden situations impacting our lives surfaces into our view. More of the large pieces will be connected in perceiving what happens in the macrocosm that is impacting us directly by trickling down into our own living rooms. Are we willing to see what it is that really operates behind the world economies, what kind of people and storefronts are used to continually perpetrate harm, and how that degeneracy impacts every structure that exists in this world? Or will we refuse to see it and deny the harm it produces? Humans are at a crossroads of making the choices to become more ethical, to stop allowing the lies of omission and to live in congruence with our spiritual source and higher values. During this phase we will be led to remember our true nature as empathic humans, so that we can learn to live in harmlessness, in any way we can in current society. Thus, the quickest way to evolve and clear energetic imbalance is to be of genuine service to others and attempt to show sincere kindness and harmlessness to everyone.

Chimera Effect

To illustrate the absolutely critical nature of comprehending where we place our intent and consent, and to be aware of what kind of vibrational forces we are allowing our body to express through thoughts, behaviors and actions, we are explaining the Chimera Effect. Inter-species hybrids and chimera are entities created from the mixing of two or more different species. Genetic chimeras can be produced in humans when a single body composed of cells belonging to one distinct genetic species is intermixed in the bloodstream with the cells of another genetic species. Chimeras are not specifically hybrids. The condition is acquired through the infusion and mixing of cellular blood components, or hematopoietic cells during transplantation or transfusion or direct injection into the bloodstream, which genetically modify the cells of a human body. This gives great clues as to why we should not allow the cells of another species to be injected into the bloodstream of any human being, as is being done in military experiments and with vaccinations.

A faction of soul-less non-corporeal shapeshifting entities that are fighting for maintaining their control access in the earth and human energy fields, are called the Chimera Group. Chimera entities like many of the NAA groups are vicious extradimensional parasites that worship the Black Sun, and can only exist by finding a host from which to siphon energy. The higher ranks of Chimera Group are used by the Draco Black Sun’s to administer or monitor the phantom areas of hyper dimensional pockets and certain sections of the black magic grids, or frequency fences they placed in the earth body. Some of these Chimera entities are contained in genetics laboratory in underground sections of military bases, those that are known for genetic experiments, cloning and time jumping experiments. There have been positive forces that are working to stop the Chimera groups cloning programs, especially of public figures, and this is in a heated battle. As a result, the Chimera Group have instead taken to inhabit human bodies on the earth surface, that they have prepared to have a close enough vibrational match for takeover. The profile for match includes an assortment of interspecies mixing with the blood, satanic orientation towards AI signaling or assimilation, combined with exposures to extremely violent and depraved images that elicit uncontrollable violent impulses in their human target.

During this phase of consciousness evolution on planet earth, there is the combining of the dual aspect of the spiritualization of the body and the corporealization of the spirit into the matter world. As these forces of the spirit or other realms may become corporeal through an access to the human body in the matter realm, the human body can become fixed and consubstantial with it through matched vibrational resonances. To be consubstantial with something is to be identified, associated and enmeshed with it, at energetic and cellular levels of existence. If we are not aware of our negative thoughts and actions, we may become consubstantial with the vibration of negative forces without realizing it.

Extremely negative thoughts damage the nervous system and brain, such as expressing rage, violence, hatred and the desire to kill and enslave, which attract not only demonic spirits but extradimensional parasites that want to harvest the emotional energy being generated from that body. Currently people on earth are being energetically assaulted and exposed to levels of extreme violence and depravity that are being broadcast by not only the media, but through all aspects of the popular culture. The agenda is to mainstream Satanism throughout all of the popular culture which prepares the terrain for people to become consubstantial with extremely negative forces, as well as connect them to satanic controlled parasites that want to trade places with the human host.

When a person has been exposed to conditions of genetic chimerism, combined with consistent bombardment to extreme violence and depravity, when they act out any of these violent behaviors, it stimulates the chimera parasite to gain complete access to enter the human body. This is to say, if a person is acting out extremely negative behaviors that can be defined as Satanism, it is now possible due to their consent with expressing these forces, that person loses autonomy over their body. Trading places with the satanic parasite, which repels the original soul and replaces itself within the human body. When it enters the human body, the DNA and blood is altered forever. This is the Chimera effect.

The Chimera shapeshifter explains the consequence of a human body that appears to be human but it is not human, because the soul has been ejected or harvested in such way to use the body like a virtual avatar. Because the body will expire shortly, generally the Chimera parasite has to continually kill or feed on something to prolong its ability to use the body without detection or decay. The Chimera Group are extremely technologically advanced in that they have programmed holographic quantum realities that hack genetic codes or programming code. This Chimera signature appears to have been behind increasing military testing programs for neuro-technology, such as surface brain mapping and mind uploading for weapons, also used for the purposes to modify genetic material to gain access to human bodies more easily.

The infrastructure was laid in neuro-technological brain mapping and artificial intelligence to record and transmit extreme violence and depravity in every way through the popular culture to the brain and CNS of the human population in order to help facilitate the Chimera body snatches. This is designed to incite violence in such way that it traumatizes the central nervous system. People shut down, the soul body is fractured and repelled and the dark spiral exposes them to depraved violence, in order to record it in their CNS, brain, and further deteriorate and destroy the original human DNA. Once a combination of these factors occur, it is possible for body trading to transpire, and these people are incited into uncontrollable impulses to commit the same violent actions they have watched on television, movies, mind controlled as full automaton possessions carried out by these parasites. Recently, the Chimera Effect was shown to me in a violent male subject on the west coast, as a means to identify Chimera signatures.

This is a very complex situation and it is not meant to instill fear, it is meant to inform the exact means through which the Chimera effect can occur. Staying away from practicing Satanism or engaging in seriously violent actions will protect your body from this parasitism, as well as committing to connect directly with your inner spirit, practicing unconditional love, harmlessness and empathy. This is a time to be vigilant about what we are in consent with. The Law of One comprises the necessary principles of behavior, practices and belief systems that humanity is required to learn in order to achieve spiritual freedom and sovereignty. It is what will protect the human body and serve all of humanity.

Please only take what is useful for your spiritual growth and discard all the rest. Thank you for your courage and bravery to be a truth seeker.

Ewan
17th February 2017, 17:51
I wish to God I had not clicked that first link. That is not human, in respect of zero soul connection. An empty shell animated by what I don't know. Pure psycopathy, an 'evil' walk-in? Could you MKUltra someone to behave like that? Probably. :(

I made it to 26 seconds I think and it took a further 20 minutes before I could type this. I can still hear it.

Don't click it....

A Voice from the Mountains
17th February 2017, 19:13
Is there any chance that all these things were staged in order to discredit Podesta for taking too close a look at UFOs? In either case, it makes me feel I just want out of this world. . .

One would hope so, but I just can't convince myself that that child's screaming is fake. The whole thing is just too visceral.

People on Voat and elsewhere are still trying to get as much info out of these videos as possible and they've been dissecting them as PurpleLama mentioned above. Some people have pointed out that there are other voices in the video which are more subdued, and just some general noise. There may be music playing in another room to drown out the child. Some people think this was filmed somewhere in Comet Pizza during one of their weird pedophile band concerts, because the strobe light in the video appears identical to a strobe light used at concerts in Comet Pizza. But all of that is just speculation at this point. Strobe lights are known to be used by the CIA to induce trauma in victims.

There is also speculation as to why the child is in a shower running back and forth with the doors shut, and what is happening inside the shower. Based on testimony from other abuse victims some think that there are insects or something else placed inside the tub with the child. The man yelling appears to have something like a Swiffer mop that he's beating the shower door with.



That is not human, in respect of zero soul connection. An empty shell animated by what I don't know. Pure psycopathy, an 'evil' walk-in? Could you MKUltra someone to behave like that? Probably. :(

I thought the same thing. Whoever the adult is, they are obviously deranged. There is multi-generational abuse in these kinds of circles and I would not be surprised if he was abused himself. It's not an excuse, but it puts the depravity of it all into a wider perspective.


You know there is a danger, that if the new administration goes after all of this kind of stuff and really tries to eradicate it, the MSM is going to be trying to frame it as some kind of political purge and use it to generate civil unrest.

That's why everyone needs to be aware of this stuff. Not everyone has to see it for themselves but everyone should at least be aware of its existence and the fact that this is happening, all over the US. It has been happening for decades. It needs to be stopped.

Noelle
17th February 2017, 20:55
I can't watch it. Everyone's response is enough warning for me to not click into it.

uzn
17th February 2017, 21:38
Psychics dont go there. The voices sound real. Let some real Warriors care about that.

AutumnW
17th February 2017, 21:49
Is there any chance that all these things were staged in order to discredit Podesta for taking too close a look at UFOs? In either case, it makes me feel I just want out of this world. . .

It's possible it is ALL a smear campaign for reasons that we're not privy to.

A Voice from the Mountains
17th February 2017, 21:55
Remember that when you hear of 20 people being arrested here, 50 there, 500 somewhere else, for child trafficking or abuse, this is the kind of stuff they're talking about. It's hard to comprehend the human suffering entailed in all of this.

We really need awareness campaigns to draw attention to these crimes so we can stop them. The mainstream media isn't reporting on it, and they won't report on it, until they are forced to.

https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://i.imgsafe.org/74ab5b375b.jpg

RunningDeer
17th February 2017, 22:01
I can't watch it. Everyone's response is enough warning for me to not click into it.

Wise decision, LadyM.


***

There’s no doubt that anyone that’s experienced trauma from emotional, physical and/or sexual abuse, it’ll come up front and center. Especially for those that’ve not learned the importance of doing the clearing work or are too broken to dig deep for the courage to do so.

For the controllers, it's another side benefit. When one’s unprocessed histories are unearthed, it may catapult them into fear state; pumped and primed for controllers and disinfo specialists to sow fear and to reinforce traumatic programing. Which in turn feeds chaos in the greater population and holds many captive in 3D reality.

Stated the obvious,
but it needed to be said.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/Calthinkingbubble2_zpsfwnfabgg.GIF


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[http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/2mo5pow_zps9vhsc4hc.GIF I acknowledge that long sentence up there.]

onawah
17th February 2017, 22:09
I am reminded of what Catherine Austin Fitts said recently in an interview with Dark Journalist, when she stated that the question is, are we going to have a human society or an inhuman society?
I don't think we have to directly witness such acts of evil, as that causes trauma and fear, which are part of the problem; we just have to understand that this is what is happening, and to do whatever we can to help stop it.
But Goddess bless those investigators who are taking it upon themselves at ground zero to uncover and stop this unholy mess and dealing directly with the perpetrators.
The karmic rewards would have to be commensurate to the horror one is helping to cleanse, I would think, but you would have to be very, very strong to succeed without damaging yourself.
I pray there are enough strong souls here to deal with this effectively.
It makes the work that certain people do to cleanse the energies of the Holocaust in concentration camps look almost easy by comparison.
This is truly draining the planetary swamp,

onawah
17th February 2017, 23:39
Or that might have been this interview with Catherine:
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...or maybe both...

Published on Feb 11, 2017
How does Donald Trump win against the evil trying to stop his Administration? Financial expert Catherine Austin Fitts contends, “Trump wins by staying focused on the real issues. The U.S. economy needs a variety of things, including turning the federal budget around. . . . . The reality is the federal budget has a negative return to taxpayers. It’s got to be turned positive. . . . That comes down to tax reform, infrastructure and it comes down to Obama Care. . . . Trump is the Titanic Turner, and he needs to stick to the big issues. . . . He has to make sure the shriek-o- meter does not destroy his top lieutenants and put space between him and them. Otherwise, the pigs are going to step in and run things.”

In closing, Fitts says, “What’s killing this economy is corruption and lawlessness. That’s what’s killing the economy. We need to deal with these problems.”

Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Catherine Austin Fitts, founder of “The Solari Report” on Solari.com.

All links can be found on USAWatchdog.com: http://usawatchdog.com/empire-strikes...

DNA
18th February 2017, 01:19
I just want to thank Purplelama and Runningdeer and others for their warnings. I trust you guys. If you guys say it is real and some efed up sh!t than that's all I need to know. Thank you guys for the warnings. Thank you

A Voice from the Mountains
18th February 2017, 01:36
If anybody is okay with hearing only the man speaking, and all other sounds removed (including all sounds from the child), people have already done that so that the voice can be compared to John Podesta's.

Voat thread: Here you go...ISOLATED adult voice (no child/safe to listen!) compared to Podesta's voice (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1647019)

That thread links to a YouTube video where isolated audio of the phrase "You think you're hot sh** don't ya?" is cropped out using the program Audacity, and it's then compared to a clip of John Podesta irritably telling James O'Keefe to "get lost."

The similarity between the voices is uncanny. They sound like the exact same person to me.

If this is an intentional intel leak targeting John Podesta then we should be seeing more of this kind of thing until justice is finally served. We could even start seeing similar things come out involving Bill Clinton and others, because there have been rumors for months that there are tapes of Bill Clinton out there doing unspeakable things, that were secretly recorded by Jeffrey Epstein on his plane and at his private island for blackmail purposes.

RunningDeer
18th February 2017, 03:58
If anybody is okay with hearing only the man speaking, and all other sounds removed (including all sounds from the child), people have already done that so that the voice can be compared to John Podesta's.
That was the first one I listened to and to me it did sound like Skippy-Boy. IIRC, the one where the guy video taped him on the sidewalk made for a good comparison, too.

Ashy67
18th February 2017, 08:09
I've had to leave this for 24 hours before coming back to it. This post has really affected me maybe on a psychic level more than conscious level but I'm glad 'a voice from the mountains ' posted it because only by shining a light on these hideous actions can we tackle them. My feeling like many others on this forum is that the child's suffering is real. Sometimes I am ashamed of being part of the human race but whilst this post makes me feel like that I know that there are far more fantastic human beings on earth, the strength of feeling on here shows me that. I know that there's a balance in the universe of positive and negative but still when you come across pure evil it's very shocking. I will be sending loving healing energy to all those who are being abused :heart:

A Voice from the Mountains
18th February 2017, 09:35
Somebody has enhanced the video to make it lighter, and now the child in the video can be seen much more clearly and it's really heartbreaking. Something is clearly causing that child pain and he/she isn't able to get out of the shower. There is no way to teach a kid that young to act so convincingly and I do not believe the video was faked. This is some serious stuff and somebody has leaked it on purpose. If anyone cares to see they can find it on Voat, just dig through recent threads there in the pizzagate subverse.

I feel like I need to start going to church or something. The kid looked like my little brother when we were growing up.

betoobig
18th February 2017, 10:28
Somebody has enhanced the video to make it lighter, and now the child in the video can be seen much more clearly and it's really heartbreaking. Something is clearly causing that child pain and he/she isn't able to get out of the shower. There is no way to teach a kid that young to act so convincingly and I do not believe the video was faked. This is some serious stuff and somebody has leaked it on purpose. If anyone cares to see they can find it on Voat, just dig through recent threads there in the pizzagate subverse.

I feel like I need to start going to church or something. The kid looked like my little brother when we were growing up.

go to nature, that is the best church, becouse Vaticaners are in this **** too... they drink the blood of christ evryday, that is black magic, and it is done like nothing matters.
I did not see the video, the vibes of all this stuff is more tan enough to feel how sick this people is. This is being going on since humans where hijacked. Now time to purge....
as i walk in this thread tears pump up in my eyes. Enough is enough...snif...
Much love

RunningDeer
18th February 2017, 15:10
I feel like I need to start going to church or something. The kid looked like my little brother when we were growing up.

I was raised catholic and attended a private catholic academy. In the early 1970's, I walked away from the church when after receiving communion, my ex-mother-in-law informed me that I can't because I'm divorced. I pointed out that I wasn't struck down nor should I be punished because I choose a life of happiness over pain and suffering. She went on with something about excommunication, blah, blah, blah.

My thoughts today? Church is where inorganic-feeder-gods prey while their conditioned subjects pray for forgiveness of venial and mortal sins from long ago fairy tales. The gods are ancient but they’re no more advanced in consciousness from those tricked into believing they are the saviors over sinners.


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A Voice from the Mountains
18th February 2017, 21:10
I wasn't thinking of the Catholic church but that's a good point. I guess the feeling I was trying to express is just penitence to a higher power. "Good versus evil" seems simplistic but I think it actually applies here. These people have crossed a serious line.

onawah
18th February 2017, 21:30
I don't think of Satanic abusers as humans beings, I think of them as human bodies who have been possessed by demonic beings from other dimensions. See my post here, the paragraphs in red letters:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96031--Viewer-warning--New-video-clips-may-show-John-Podesta-torturing-a-child&p=1134865&viewfull=1#post1134865
Such beings can attack the innocent ( I know this from experience) as well as the guilty, but to be completely possessed by one may require a certain amount of complicity.
Though I have a hard time believing that anyone would consciously agree to being possessed if they actually understood what they were doing.
And that would certainly be a classic example of what the final, deadly price of spiritual ignorance is.

I've had to leave this for 24 hours before coming back to it. This post has really affected me maybe on a psychic level more than conscious level but I'm glad 'a voice from the mountains ' posted it because only by shining a light on these hideous actions can we tackle them. My feeling like many others on this forum is that the child's suffering is real. Sometimes I am ashamed of being part of the human race but whilst this post makes me feel like that I know that there are far more fantastic human beings on earth, the strength of feeling on here shows me that. I know that there's a balance in the universe of positive and negative but still when you come across pure evil it's very shocking. I will be sending loving healing energy to all those who are being abused :heart:

A Voice from the Mountains
18th February 2017, 21:46
Maybe that would explain this, onawah:


Then-First Lady Hillary Clinton spoke to the dead during seances, but refused to speak to Jesus Christ when her spiritual adviser suggested it, according to journalist Bob Woodward.

http://www.infowars.com/flashback-occultic-hillary-summons-the-dead-refuses-to-speak-to-christ/

I don't strictly believe in any religion but I do believe that collective thoughts and feelings have a lot of creative power. The ideas and energies that Jesus represents (love, forgiveness, self-sacrifice, honoring a higher power, etc.) seem to be too much for some of these people. Then again it doesn't stop the Catholics, as has been pointed out, but they seem to be all about guilt and punishment.

Chakra
18th February 2017, 21:59
Is there any chance that all these things were staged in order to discredit Podesta for taking too close a look at UFOs? In either case, it makes me feel I just want out of this world. . .

That's what I was wondering about as well. Seems just a tad to fast and just getting more extreme - not to say that if the evidence is really there He should be in jail absolutely!
I am definitely not a fan of anyone - but he is rather too outspoken about UFO disclosure. And he is someone that has lots of clout if he chose to reveal what he really knows. So my take is if they can fake 911 - it would be super easy to fake everything else they have said about him.

Posting this article incase it disappears.

By Ben Wolfgang - The Washington Times - Sunday, October 16, 2016 (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/16/john-podesta-emails-encourage-ufo-buffs-seeking-de/)

"If the truth is out there, John Podesta’s private email may provide a road map to find it.
It’s no secret that the Hillary Clinton campaign chairman is a UFO buff, but the recent WikiLeaks dump of Mr. Podesta’s hacked account sheds new light on how deeply interested he is in extraterrestrial conspiracy theories.

Messages between Mr. Podesta and fellow alien enthusiasts — including a former Apollo astronaut and the guitarist of pop-punk band Blink 182 — came as a welcome surprise to UFO researchers. They are more convinced than ever that a Clinton administration would bring about the declassification of some of the federal government’s deepest secrets, including what really happened at Roswell, New Mexico; activities inside the notorious Area 51; and other pieces of a complex puzzle involving alien craft and space travel.

“There have been people within the community working with Podesta and the Clintons on the subject,” Jan Harzan, executive director of the Mutual UFO Network, told The Washington Times. “Just having the conversation is very positive to realize the subject is real, and these intelligences, wherever they’re from, visit us from time to time and we get reports on it. …

We’re delighted to see the conversation going on. Hopefully, it will wake people up to the fact that we’re not alone in the universe.”

Within Mr. Podesta’s private account is a trove of messages related to UFOs, aliens and conspiracies. Some are relatively benign, such as links to news stories about the return of the Fox TV show “The X-Files.”

But others show a much deeper level of interest, seemingly confirming Mr. Podesta’s stated desire for secret government documents to be made public. In one email, Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar D. Mitchell — the sixth man to set foot on the moon — tells Mr. Podesta that they should meet to discuss extraterrestrial intelligence and the supposed alien technology known as “zero-point energy.” His messages also hint that the Vatican is aware of and interested in alien life.

“It is urgent that we agree on a date and time to meet to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy, at your earliest available [time] after your departure,” Mr. Mitchell said, referring to Mr. Podesta’s exit from the White House last year after serving as a counselor to President Obama.

“My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there too, to bring us up to date on the Vatican’s awareness of ETI,” Mr. Mitchell said in the January 2015 email.

In a follow-up message, the former astronaut delves even deeper into extraterrestrial intelligence.
“Remember, our nonviolent ETI from the contiguous universe are helping us bring zero point energy to Earth. They will not tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space,” he said.
Mitchell died in February.

Blink 182’s Tom DeLonge emailed Mr. Podesta to try to arrange a meeting with “important people” who had information about classified government programs.

“I would like to bring two very ‘important’ people out to meet you in DC,” the musician wrote in an October 2015 email. “I think you will find them very interesting, as they were principal leadership relating to our sensitive topic. Both were in charge of most fragile divisions, as it relates to Classified Science and DOD topics. Other words, these are A-level officials. Worth our time, and as well the investment to bring all the way to you.”

It does not appear that Mr. Podesta responded to the message, and it’s unclear whether the meeting ever took place. Indeed, the Clinton campaign chairman seems to have rarely, if ever, engaged in detailed conversations on the subject via email, though the messages from Mitchell, Mr. DeLonge and others show Mr. Podesta as a key ally in the fight for public disclosure of government UFO files.

In February 2015, Mr. Podesta made clear that he fought unsuccessfully to declassify UFO files while he was a part of the Obama administration.

“Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files. #thetruthisstilloutthere,” he said in a Twitter post.

If Mrs. Clinton wins the presidential election, Mr. Podesta could find success. Mrs. Clinton has said she wants to have the files declassified, and a Clinton administration with Mr. Podesta in a key leadership role seems to be the best chance in decades for the release of long-secret files.

“I would like us to go into those files and hopefully make as much of that [as] public as possible,” Mrs. Clinton said in March. “If there’s nothing there, let’s tell people there’s nothing there. And if there is something there, unless it’s a threat to national security, I think we ought to share it with the public.”

Mrs. Clinton’s key caveat, Mr. Harzan said, may be problematic because virtually everything involving secret space travel research and extraterrestrial life in some way could be tied to national security.

“This whole thing is national security. That’s why we’ve been lied to for 70 years. That’s why it’s been kept under wraps,” he said."

Don't think this would really piss some people off big time? What do most people find more vile and discussing than a pedophile? Thus humiliate, discredit, create doubt in public opinion. Pay off as many trolls as you can to spread stories. Till it takes on a life of its own.

Noelle
19th February 2017, 00:56
Is there any chance that all these things were staged in order to discredit Podesta for taking too close a look at UFOs? In either case, it makes me feel I just want out of this world. . .

That's what I was wondering about as well. Seems just a tad to fast and just getting more extreme - not to say that if the evidence is really there He should be in jail absolutely!
I am definitely not a fan of anyone - but he is rather too outspoken about UFO disclosure. And he is someone that has lots of clout if he chose to reveal what he really knows. So my take is if they can fake 911 - it would be super easy to fake everything else they have said about him.

Posting this article incase it disappears.

By Ben Wolfgang - The Washington Times - Sunday, October 16, 2016 (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/16/john-podesta-emails-encourage-ufo-buffs-seeking-de/)

"If the truth is out there, John Podesta’s private email may provide a road map to find it.
It’s no secret that the Hillary Clinton campaign chairman is a UFO buff, but the recent WikiLeaks dump of Mr. Podesta’s hacked account sheds new light on how deeply interested he is in extraterrestrial conspiracy theories.

Messages between Mr. Podesta and fellow alien enthusiasts — including a former Apollo astronaut and the guitarist of pop-punk band Blink 182 — came as a welcome surprise to UFO researchers. They are more convinced than ever that a Clinton administration would bring about the declassification of some of the federal government’s deepest secrets, including what really happened at Roswell, New Mexico; activities inside the notorious Area 51; and other pieces of a complex puzzle involving alien craft and space travel.

“There have been people within the community working with Podesta and the Clintons on the subject,” Jan Harzan, executive director of the Mutual UFO Network, told The Washington Times. “Just having the conversation is very positive to realize the subject is real, and these intelligences, wherever they’re from, visit us from time to time and we get reports on it. …

We’re delighted to see the conversation going on. Hopefully, it will wake people up to the fact that we’re not alone in the universe.”

Within Mr. Podesta’s private account is a trove of messages related to UFOs, aliens and conspiracies. Some are relatively benign, such as links to news stories about the return of the Fox TV show “The X-Files.”

But others show a much deeper level of interest, seemingly confirming Mr. Podesta’s stated desire for secret government documents to be made public. In one email, Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar D. Mitchell — the sixth man to set foot on the moon — tells Mr. Podesta that they should meet to discuss extraterrestrial intelligence and the supposed alien technology known as “zero-point energy.” His messages also hint that the Vatican is aware of and interested in alien life.

“It is urgent that we agree on a date and time to meet to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy, at your earliest available [time] after your departure,” Mr. Mitchell said, referring to Mr. Podesta’s exit from the White House last year after serving as a counselor to President Obama.

“My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there too, to bring us up to date on the Vatican’s awareness of ETI,” Mr. Mitchell said in the January 2015 email.

In a follow-up message, the former astronaut delves even deeper into extraterrestrial intelligence.
“Remember, our nonviolent ETI from the contiguous universe are helping us bring zero point energy to Earth. They will not tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space,” he said.
Mitchell died in February.

Blink 182’s Tom DeLonge emailed Mr. Podesta to try to arrange a meeting with “important people” who had information about classified government programs.

“I would like to bring two very ‘important’ people out to meet you in DC,” the musician wrote in an October 2015 email. “I think you will find them very interesting, as they were principal leadership relating to our sensitive topic. Both were in charge of most fragile divisions, as it relates to Classified Science and DOD topics. Other words, these are A-level officials. Worth our time, and as well the investment to bring all the way to you.”

It does not appear that Mr. Podesta responded to the message, and it’s unclear whether the meeting ever took place. Indeed, the Clinton campaign chairman seems to have rarely, if ever, engaged in detailed conversations on the subject via email, though the messages from Mitchell, Mr. DeLonge and others show Mr. Podesta as a key ally in the fight for public disclosure of government UFO files.

In February 2015, Mr. Podesta made clear that he fought unsuccessfully to declassify UFO files while he was a part of the Obama administration.

“Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files. #thetruthisstilloutthere,” he said in a Twitter post.

If Mrs. Clinton wins the presidential election, Mr. Podesta could find success. Mrs. Clinton has said she wants to have the files declassified, and a Clinton administration with Mr. Podesta in a key leadership role seems to be the best chance in decades for the release of long-secret files.

“I would like us to go into those files and hopefully make as much of that [as] public as possible,” Mrs. Clinton said in March. “If there’s nothing there, let’s tell people there’s nothing there. And if there is something there, unless it’s a threat to national security, I think we ought to share it with the public.”

Mrs. Clinton’s key caveat, Mr. Harzan said, may be problematic because virtually everything involving secret space travel research and extraterrestrial life in some way could be tied to national security.

“This whole thing is national security. That’s why we’ve been lied to for 70 years. That’s why it’s been kept under wraps,” he said."

Don't think this would really piss some people off big time? What do most people find more vile and discussing than a pedophile? Thus humiliate, discredit, create doubt in public opinion. Pay off as many trolls as you can to spread stories. Till it takes on a life of its own.

I suppose we can also question his motives behind pushing for disclosure? Could it not be a distraction or a tactic to win himself a more favorable opinion among those or confuse those who are researching his alleged darker side.

Atlas
19th February 2017, 01:02
Could it not be a distraction or a tactic to win himself a more favorable opinion among those or confuse those who are researching his alleged darker side.
What's for sure is that the photo in OP is not Podesta, and another sure thing is that you can find hardcore pedophilia on the clear web, I can show you some but your brain will hurt even more than all that you read in this thread so far.

Desire
19th February 2017, 02:14
I do not think it is a problem to INTEND evil like him to be eliminated from our existence I want him gone.

Chakra
22nd February 2017, 23:58
Is there any chance that all these things were staged in order to discredit Podesta for taking too close a look at UFOs? In either case, it makes me feel I just want out of this world. . .

That's what I was wondering about as well. Seems just a tad to fast and just getting more extreme - not to say that if the evidence is really there He should be in jail absolutely!
I am definitely not a fan of anyone - but he is rather too outspoken about UFO disclosure. And he is someone that has lots of clout if he chose to reveal what he really knows. So my take is if they can fake 911 - it would be super easy to fake everything else they have said about him.

Don't think this would really piss some people off big time? What do most people find more vile and discussing than a pedophile? Thus humiliate, discredit, create doubt in public opinion. Pay off as many trolls as you can to spread stories. Till it takes on a life of its own.

I suppose we can also question his motives behind pushing for disclosure? Could it not be a distraction or a tactic to win himself a more favorable opinion among those or confuse those who are researching his alleged darker side.


:confused: I seriously doubt any attempt at aligning himself with a statistically very small group of people generally already considered nutballs, :cantina: a group of people that are ALWAYS being discredited, maligned, disparaged and generally thought of as crack pots, in anyway shape or form will make himself look favorable in ANYONES eyes. :no:

Besides he has wanted disclosure way way before all this came out.
History of Postesta / UFO interest (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/08/the-long-strange-history-of-john-podestas-space-alien-obsession/?utm_term=.6b84bad0338f)

Again I am in no way defending him in anyway - just looking at all the factors. Just like with the Women's protests, I saw right away the protests had big money behind them. There was an agenda - Soros.

Chakra
23rd February 2017, 00:07
Could it not be a distraction or a tactic to win himself a more favorable opinion among those or confuse those who are researching his alleged darker side.
What's for sure is that the photo in OP is not Podesta, and another sure thing is that you can find hardcore pedophilia on the clear web, I can show you some but your brain will hurt even more than all that you read in this thread so far.

Didn't see the photo - not in the right head space to deal with it right now but thanks for that info.

Working in the film industry I know that you can pretty much do anything you want, especially with green screen, and get people to believe anything you want when editing stuff together. So I am extremely skeptical with anything visual. Anything now a days can be so easily faked. The Boston thing was one of the (best) worse example of bad film making yet. lol

Chakra
23rd February 2017, 00:14
I do not think it is a problem to INTEND evil like him to be eliminated from our existence I want him gone.

It's a huge karmic problem if your wrong though. It's the boomerang effect and unfortunately what you send out comes right back at ya. You just never know when... :brick:

A Voice from the Mountains
23rd February 2017, 20:45
A longer version of the "fatherhood" video has been released and now you can more clearly see the man who is doing the actual abuse.

And yes, it just happens to look like John Podesta.

This stuff is definitely being dropped Wikileaks-style. Somebody has the goods on these people, and they are only letting it out bit by bit. This could be from Anthony Weiner's computer for all we know.



It's a huge karmic problem if your wrong though.

Let's do a simple cost benefit analysis on this.

If we're wrong: Podesta gets slandered for something he didn't do. Worst case scenario is hurt feelings.

If we're right: Potentially hundreds of other children could be saved from future torture.

It looks to me like the karmic risk here is pretty damn minimal.

And no matter who is doing it, child abuse is clearly going on in the video and law enforcement needs to be actively investigating it.

Honesty
23rd February 2017, 22:26
..........

Atlas
23rd February 2017, 22:37
The Worst Punishments from Parents Ever
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CHINA CHILD DAY CARE TORTURE
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pyrangello
23rd February 2017, 23:03
AutumnW - Your answer to a smear campaign, I say no, there is so much information coming forward now from so many directions. I listened to an interview the other day where it was stated that much of videos and pictures on Anthony (slimeball) Werner's laptop were so disgusting that this guy didn't even want to discuss specifics. He did say most of the children being abused in these pedophile networks were between 1 to 6 years old if that doesn't start to make your stomach turn.The rabbit hole is very deep but I would bet there are many,many of those on the side of the law now that are so applaud by those sub-human pieces of crap this is not going away until a dagger is thrown thru the center of the evil for the protection of these children.

Flowerpunkchip
23rd February 2017, 23:05
Just letting you guys know about this...

John Podesta Gets Washington Post Column!
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Atlas
23rd February 2017, 23:31
You don't care about the child being tortured by (supposedly) Podesta, you just care about Podesta. What about the hundred (if not the thousand) of children being abused worldwide? Do you even care about them or are you just after Podesta and that's enough for you?

Step mother arrested after FB video exposed her torture against child
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Honest Government Advert - We Tortured Some Kids
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Atlas
23rd February 2017, 23:43
Israeli police accused of child torture
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BOOT CAMP FOR KIDS: Torturing Teens for Fun and Profit! STOP IT!
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Starving Child Abandoned because of "Witchcraft" rescued by Aid Worker
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A Voice from the Mountains
24th February 2017, 00:11
I have to draw a distinction between parents brutally punishing their children, and the kind of systematized MK ULTRA-type torture designed to split peoples' personalities and make programmable pawns out of them. The latter is what I believe we are seeing in the videos allegedly showing Podesta.

When I grew up, I would get "whippings" for misbehaving, mostly just on the fleshy part of my butt where no real damage is done, and I was often a very energetic and rebellious child. The thing is, I always understood that my parents loved me and did it because they loved me, and my dad in particular would always make that clear even right after spanking me. At that time, and for all the older generations, that was normal and acceptable behavior. Today, of course, not so much. In fact my grandparents would always tell me how lucky I was that my parents would never use "switches" (long woody stems of bushes) on my legs like their own parents did to all of them. And this wasn't like an everyday occurrence but just time to time whenever I played in the road, ran away from the house without telling anybody, intentionally squirted ketchup all over the kitchen floor or ran around the house screaming for hours or things like that, that undisciplined kids will do.

People can disagree with those kinds of practices, and I would personally exhaust every non-physical option with my own children before ever resorting to anything like that, but the point I'm trying to make is, there is a huge difference between that and what you see in these disturbing videos, or what we hear about from the elites' abuse victims.


Another huge distinction I feel like making is the difference between people who have consensual sex with underage teenagers who have already gone through puberty, etc., though they are obviously still not fully mature in terms of their psychology, and people who are abusing children in the single digits who are too young to even have an accurate social conception of what the hell is happening to them. Again, that's not to say that any of it is right, but the difference for me is on the orders of magnitude level. And especially when you start approaching toddlers that can't even talk, that is some really messed up stuff that I can't even comprehend rationally on any level. It only seems like a waste of human life to me and it really disappoints and angers me.


One other thing I will say is that some people may think I go around posting all of this Pizzagate stuff because of something that particularly bothers me about it, as opposed to a lot of the other stuff happening around the world (children being blown up in wars or whatever). I really don't even like looking at this stuff, and after a while I get burned out and have to take a break and think about other things. But between about 2003 and 2010 I was the same way with 9/11. I was all over 9/11 truth stuff and trying to raise awareness and push the info, until finally I got burned out on that too. I am disgusted with our "authority" figures in general and I will take advantage of any scandal they produce to try to discredit them and help take them down. Even my small part of spreading information is better than doing nothing. They are sick and corrupt people on so many levels that no one issue will ever fully describe the state to which they have fallen, including Pizzagate.

Atlas
24th February 2017, 00:35
[...] my parents [...] did it because they loved me [...]
What they did was torture, not love.


[...] non-physical option with my own children before ever resorting to anything like that [...]
What about psychological options ? Do you think that would be a better option ?


[...] I am disgusted with our "authority" figures in general [...]
Agreed, I can't see any authority whatsoever in this world (except a wicked one).


[...] They are sick and corrupt people on so many levels that no one issue will ever fully describe the state to which they have fallen [...]
That's about it...

A Voice from the Mountains
24th February 2017, 01:08
Like I said, it is and was a cultural thing here and I'm not going to start going around claiming I was tortured as a child like some of these SJWs types might do, just because I was spanked, when I know that I had very good parents who have always supported me throughout my whole life. That's just how it was, and I don't see it as anything to do with systematic or ritualized torture designed to crack people's core psychology.

Nobody ever put me in a bathtub naked with multi-colored strobe lights and beat the doors with a swiffer mop while yelling at me, with God-knows-what in the bathtub with me the whole time (there is clearly something shocking or otherwise harming the child in the tub in the video). And nobody ever locked me in a cage (being sent to your room doesn't quite count either) or anything else like that. Those things are designed to overwhelm the senses and crack people. Everything that happened to me was done out in the open in conformity with social and cultural norms and I think I turned out alright.

There is a huge difference between these two sets of activities that has to be recognized.

Innocent Warrior
24th February 2017, 02:03
To spiritual warriors - Pray for these children and pray for the perpetrators. Hear me out on praying for the perps. I have plenty of experience with the type of beings who inhabit these people. They hate, absolutely hate God and they hate us praying. Pray and make it as uncomfortable for them as possible, if you have the courage. BE WARNED, they are very powerful and they will see it as an attack, if you don't have any experience with them then pray for the children only.

Ewan
24th February 2017, 11:26
[...] my parents [...] did it because they loved me [...]
What they did was torture, not love.


[...] non-physical option with my own children before ever resorting to anything like that [...]
What about psychological options ? Do you think that would be a better option ?

I disagree that can be labelled torture, I'm also curious to know what you mean by psychological options.

My wife uses emotional blackmail all the time and to my shame I caught myself doing it a few times also. Now I hear both my children doing exactly the same thing and somehow I have to explain to them that this is wrong. (eg: If you don't do this then Mummy will do that).

I'm quite sure they will have forgotten an occasional warm sting on the backside, (frequent and for hardly any reason is a different matter), but now I have to try to deconstruct their approach to adopting blackmail as a way of trying to get what they want - before it is hard-wired behaviour.

A Voice from the Mountains
25th February 2017, 00:11
Parenting stuff is off-topic and I don't even have kids yet, but when/if I do I've already decided that I'm not going to (a) speak "baby talk" gibberish to them (studies have shown that this stunts real language development), (b) tell them that Santa Claus is real, or (c) anything else that I feel is disrespecting them. Children are obviously not adults but I don't think they should be emotionally manipulated or lied to or told hypocritical things by adults. They are quicker to pick up on reality than people give them credit for.

When I was young and my dad punished me in any way, he was very straightforward about why he was doing it and explaining to me the importance of what he was trying to teach me, and I always appreciated and respected that from him, even if I didn't like it. It was instructive, and that's supposed to be the point. I love my mom but she was more vengeful in punishment, and I think that eventually made me very rebellious and antagonistic toward her. I just don't think she realized how it came across to me at the time. With my parents it was almost like "good cop/bad cop" whenever I did something I wasn't supposed to. My youngest brother is a teenager and he has to deal with the same stuff, and is reacting similarly, if not worse.

Innocent Warrior
25th February 2017, 21:59
There is a huge difference between these two sets of activities that has to be recognized.

Absolutely, they're not even comparable.

I watched the lightened "Fatherhood" video and I was horrified. That boy appears to be about three years old and the most heartbreaking part of it all is how incredibly strong the boy is being and how strong he has to be just to survive that (at least in his own mind). He can't even go to another place in his mind, he has to stay present so he can focus on avoiding whatever they've put in that bathtub. The strangest details haunt you when you've been traumatised, like the sound of your own screams, he's going to have to fight impossibly hard just to keep his sanity, and it's most unlikely he'll be able to. That strong, beautiful, innocent boy should be safe in bed, having a golden book read to him and having adventurous dreams.

It's completely different, Bsbray, you're absolutely correct.

And yeah, you turned out alright. ;)

A Voice from the Mountains
28th February 2017, 10:53
I watched the lightened "Fatherhood" video and I was horrified. That boy appears to be about three years old and the most heartbreaking part of it all is how incredibly strong the boy is being and how strong he has to be just to survive that (at least in his own mind). He can't even go to another place in his mind, he has to stay present so he can focus on avoiding whatever they've put in that bathtub.

That makes sense and I really hope the kid is still alive and can be recovered soon. Maybe that's why Podesta (or whoever else it might be) is saying "You think you're hot **** don't ya?" Seems like he must have some experience with this doing this kind of thing.


And yeah, you turned out alright. ;)

Thanks Rachel. :P

Chakra
1st March 2017, 06:07
To spiritual warriors - Pray for these children and pray for the perpetrators. Hear me out on praying for the perps. I have plenty of experience with the type of beings who inhabit these people. They hate, absolutely hate God and they hate us praying. Pray and make it as uncomfortable for them as possible, if you have the courage. BE WARNED, they are very powerful and they will see it as an attack, if you don't have any experience with them then pray for the children only.

I totally agree the more that this happens the faster this all will change. More people need to step up, stop the petty infighting and name calling - deal with the root cause.

For sometime now - I don't just pray - that day for me is long past - I demand and call for all that is satanic / demonic / AI / Alien to be bound ( by whomever you choose - there is a variety of Angelics, and higher beings - Lords of Karma, Kali, Durga, the Christ, Enoch, that do this ) and returned to the light.

I also have been attacked by all mentioned, pretty ugly and scary looking to boot and yes your correct they can be powerful. But their also not eternal - they have a shelve life AND they only exist through stealing the light. Thus those FIRMLY connected to the Higher / Angelic realms are connected to that which is eternal.

Also as a closer I add - "All attacks of any kinda (ie retribution) to anyone, shall be met with a return of force multiplied 10 Billion fold. Or whatever your own high multiple :)

uzn
1st March 2017, 11:56
PIZZAGATE | NEW TUNNEL DISCOVERY. Connects At Least 4 Of Alefantis’s Properties

see this Thread and the following Posts:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94769-Pizzagate-pedophilia-in-American-elite--with-links-to-related-threads-&p=1137839&viewfull=1#post1137839

Desire
5th March 2017, 12:24
Chakra
Concerning Podesta. The way I program includes that if I've made a mistake ,the effect is cancelled.

A Voice from the Mountains
15th April 2018, 21:17
It's been a while since there have been any updates on this front but there are rumors all over the chans and Voat now that a video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin mutilating a child has dropped on the dark web.

This image has a couple of small screen caps of the alleged video, more creepy than obviously gratuitous but I will warn the squeamish away anyway: https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1523/81/1523813430120.png

Obviously I'm not going to be vouching for its authenticity because I'm not going to be seeking it out. The videos in this thread that were allegedly of Podesta are bad enough. There was a guy claiming to be NYPD on 4chan the other day, who posted a partial pic of his badge upon request to the anons there, who already knew of the "frazzledrip" video and said its title is a reference to what most of the video shows, which, according to him, was blood dripping into a container.

Here is a screencap of that conversation: https://media.8ch.net/file_store/e0bec8ba4d54c84f8e23a1815e2f0380e3445a924168a03525f6c1a2315335e9.png


Maybe something will come of this and maybe not but I thought I'd share this here since the info is already blowing in the breeze from 8chan to Twitter.

The caption in the image above is referencing an alleged adrenochrome harvesting ritual. Adrenochrome is a drug released by the human body that can be harvested after torturing the victim. It's related to adrenaline.


A comparison of an alleged screenshot of this video and Huma Abedin's face: http://yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/mask.jpg

The super-imposed images at least seem to fit. But again, I haven't looked for this video and have no intention to.

Flowerpunkchip
16th April 2018, 08:47
I haven't looked for this video and have no intention to.

Agreed. But, hate to say it. We need one reliable person from this forum to watch it and confirm who's in the video.
Thank you for your post Voice In The Mountains

Oddball
16th April 2018, 08:52
But if somebody downloads it and watches it, could'nt you technically be arrested for child porn?

Flowerpunkchip
16th April 2018, 09:01
But if somebody downloads it and watches it, could'nt you technically be arrested for child porn?

yes, you're right... ok, need a police officer to say the names in this case.

I feel terrible because I want it to be Hillary. (For my own vindication because of the countless debates/arguments with friends (I'm not a Trump supporter but he's the less of two evils in this fake democracy we live in)).

But I'm naďve. This wouldn't make the news.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th April 2018, 20:00
At least two sources have already confirmed that the NYPD has been sitting on some explosive stuff from Anthony Weiner's laptop. (Though of course that doesn't mean the video supposedly circulating on the dark web has anything to do with it or is even real.)


BREAKING BOMBSHELL: NYPD Blows Whistle on New Hillary Emails: Money Laundering, Sex Crimes with Children, Child Exploitation, Pay to Play, Perjury

Posted on November 2, 2016

New York Police Department detectives and prosecutors working an alleged underage sexting case against former Congressman Anthony Weiner have turned over a newly-found laptop he shared with wife Huma Abedin to the FBI with enough evidence “to put Hillary (Clinton) and her crew away for life,” NYPD sources told True Pundit.

NYPD sources said Clinton’s “crew” also included several unnamed yet implicated members of Congress in addition to her aides and insiders.

The NYPD seized the computer from Weiner during a search warrant and detectives discovered a trove of over 500,000 emails to and from Hillary Clinton, Abedin and other insiders during her tenure as secretary of state. The content of those emails sparked the FBI to reopen its defunct email investigation into Clinton on Friday.

But new revelations on the contents of that laptop, according to law enforcement sources, implicate the Democratic presidential candidate, her subordinates, and even select elected officials in far more alleged serious crimes than mishandling classified and top secret emails, sources said. NYPD sources said these new emails include evidence linking Clinton herself and associates to:

Money laundering
Child exploitation
Sex crimes with minors (children)
Perjury
Pay to play through Clinton Foundation
Obstruction of justice
Other felony crimes

NYPD detectives and a NYPD Chief, the department’s highest rank under Commissioner, said openly that if the FBI and Justice Department fail to garner timely indictments against Clinton and co- conspirators, NYPD will go public with the damaging emails now in the hands of FBI Director James Comey and many FBI field offices.

“What’s in the emails is staggering and as a father, it turned my stomach,” the NYPD Chief said. “There is not going to be any Houdini-like escape from what we found. We have copies of everything. We will ship them to Wikileaks or I will personally hold my own press conference if it comes to that.”

https://truepundit.com/breaking-bombshell-nypd-blows-whistle-on-new-hillary-emails-money-laundering-sex-crimes-with-children-child-exploitation-pay-to-play-perjury/


TruePundit has repeatedly broken major news stories in the US before the MSM ever gets around to it, and this article above is also updated with developments since it was published:


EDITOR’S NOTE: This story was followed up 2 days later on November 4th, 2016 with a Breitbart Radio Interview by Blackwater founder and former Navy SEAL Erik Prince discussing similar facts about this case. – READ MORE
After publishing of this blockbuster, other facts from this case have also been confirmed.

January 31st 2017: Anthony Weiner got slapped with federal child pornography probe
May 3rd 2017: Comey – Top Clinton aide Huma Abedin forwarded classified information to Anthony Weiner
Hillary is under investigation for money laundering and other alleged crimes linked to her and the Clinton Foundation, including pay-to-play schemes like Uranium One and more.
Weiner is in federal prison for sexual crimes with a minor.


Erik Prince of the company formerly known as Blackwater is referenced above, though he didn't specifically describe what exactly constitutes the evidence of trips to Epstein Island and was more vague about it:


“They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times,” he said.

“The amount of garbage that they found in these emails, of criminal activity by Hillary, by her immediate circle, and even by other Democratic members of Congress was so disgusting they gave it to the FBI, and they said, ‘We’re going to go public with this if you don’t reopen the investigation and you don’t do the right thing with timely indictments,’” Prince explained.

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/


The people I've seen online claiming to have watched it, say that it's just gratuitous violence rather than anything pornographic in the way we think of the term. But that's still a good question as to the legality of even accessing a video like that.

turiya
16th April 2018, 20:24
I should probably mention what Jerome Corsi has - just this morning - warned people about looking for the Hillary Clinton / Huma Abedin video that the NYPD had uncovered on the Anthony Weiner laptop... That warning would probably apply to any vid that would have other dastardly deeds done by the Podestas, as well.

Jerome Corsi advises the people that are listening to his Qanon decoding videos that he would not recommend anybody going anywhere on the internet and looking for such a leaked video. Because the NSA will want to know more about you, and why you would be looking for such a video...

Just don't do it. -- (as suggested by Jerome Corsi)...

A Voice from the Mountains
16th April 2018, 20:51
That kind of begs the question of why leakers would leak such videos if no one is allowed to look at them. I don't really understand what the agenda would be there but just the same, I never had any intention of watching something like that anyway. The audio from the alleged Podesta videos was already bad enough that I got the point. People have nightmares after watching gory stuff like that.

Flash
16th April 2018, 21:28
That kind of begs the question of why leakers would leak such videos if no one is allowed to look at them. I don't really understand what the agenda would be there but just the same, I never had any intention of watching something like that anyway. The audio from the alleged Podesta videos was already bad enough that I got the point. People have nightmares after watching gory stuff like that.

right, and imagine the poor kids who are going through this, no way to become normal again after such gruesome ordeal.

A Voice from the Mountains
20th April 2018, 08:10
For the record I now believe the "FrazzleDrip" video circulating is fake (still never watched it), but that real videos along these lines are still "out there" somewhere on the dark web.

It's going to be a mess going forward with all the new AI-driven editing technology coming out.

KiwiElf
20th April 2018, 08:35
This one drove me to tears... (no it's not Podesta, but bad enough) ... watch the WHOLE video ***WARNING*** (it's near the end...)

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A Voice from the Mountains
20th April 2018, 08:43
I can't even watch this stuff. I don't get sad. I get completely enraged.

If I even so much as see a Red Cross logo now my blood starts boiling.

KiwiElf
20th April 2018, 08:46
I can't even watch this stuff. I don't get sad. I get completely enraged.

If I even so much as see a Red Cross logo now my blood starts boiling.

Yeah, me too - the whole world needs to see this (above video)

Baby Steps
20th April 2018, 09:13
As has been said before it is important for people within the conspiracy community to practise extreme care at this time.

- Fakery and traps are being used
- If one starts to verbalise to one's friends, be careful - what will your statements do to them- what might they do, and what might they find- and will it be true?
- Stay off the dark web, certainly do not search there , using dark terminology. There may be a huge trap there...
- I really feel that the truth is coming, lets not fly too close to the Sun like Pegasus...

Joe from the Carolinas
20th April 2018, 12:04
That kind of begs the question of why leakers would leak such videos if no one is allowed to look at them. I don't really understand what the agenda would be there but just the same, I never had any intention of watching something like that anyway. The audio from the alleged Podesta videos was already bad enough that I got the point. People have nightmares after watching gory stuff like that.

I think the motivation could be to arrest people and keep the money coming in for the law enforcement growth industry.

The fbi and other law enforcement folks regularly set up sting operations where they put bait out there for suspected creeps to check out, then they bust them.

They come in, seize computers, make the arrest, then the legal system starts.

Ba-ba-Ra
20th April 2018, 15:45
That kind of begs the question of why leakers would leak such videos if no one is allowed to look at them. I don't really understand what the agenda would be there but just the same, I never had any intention of watching something like that anyway. The audio from the alleged Podesta videos was already bad enough that I got the point. People have nightmares after watching gory stuff like that.

I think the motivation could be to arrest people and keep the money coming in for the law enforcement growth industry.

The fbi and other law enforcement folks regularly set up sting operations where they put bait out there for suspected creeps to check out, then they bust them.

They come in, seize computers, make the arrest, then the legal system starts.


Yes, they arrest the creeps that watch, but seem to do nothing to those that are actually committing or behind these crimes.

Note: I'm not against them catching the creeps, but that's not going to stop this mess!. . . .and this is why we need to be careful about watching, as we might be seen as a "creep" rather than someone who is trying to get to the bottom of these crimes.

Joe from the Carolinas
20th April 2018, 22:48
That kind of begs the question of why leakers would leak such videos if no one is allowed to look at them. I don't really understand what the agenda would be there but just the same, I never had any intention of watching something like that anyway. The audio from the alleged Podesta videos was already bad enough that I got the point. People have nightmares after watching gory stuff like that.

I think the motivation could be to arrest people and keep the money coming in for the law enforcement growth industry.

The fbi and other law enforcement folks regularly set up sting operations where they put bait out there for suspected creeps to check out, then they bust them.

They come in, seize computers, make the arrest, then the legal system starts.


Yes, they arrest the creeps that watch, but seem to do nothing to those that are actually committing or behind these crimes.

Note: I'm not against them catching the creeps, but that's not going to stop this mess!. . . .and this is why we need to be careful about watching, as we might be seen as a "creep" rather than someone who is trying to get to the bottom of these crimes.

You got that right, in my view.