Melania says the Lord's Prayer the way we remember it!

[seleka]

I just saw this! I am not sure why she seems so strained, like she is having trouble doing this for some reason? I am thrilled at what this could mean. To me it seems it is a message about the mandela effect. This is the Lord's Prayer- pre mandela effect! They know! I really am wondering more and more if Trump has some inside knowledge. I posted yesterday that his uncle, John G Trump, was the man to clean up Tesla's belongings. I am just so excited I have to share this!
http://ussanews.com/News1/2017/02/19/liberals-freak-out-after-melania-trump-opens-rally-with-lords-prayer/

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[skyflower]

I grew up in church, and I always recited "forgive us our 'debts' ...", but I also am aware of "trespasses".
I always thought it was just from a different bible version.

I am aware of the mandela effect on the lion becoming a wolf in Isaiah. Also the whole pouring new wine into "bottles" instead of wine skin. But I do not see a change in the Lord's prayer.

[looking-glass]

I grew up in church, and I always recited "forgive us our 'debts' ...", but I also am aware of "trespasses".
I always thought it was just from a different bible version.

I am aware of the mandela effect on the lion becoming a wolf in Isaiah. Also the whole pouring new wine into "bottles" instead of wine skin. But I do not see a change in the Lord's prayer.

Hello Skyflower,

thought pinged into my head (and I was meaning to find it on another thread but got distracted)..

I searched some old PDFs of bible versions and found this in 'Youngs Literal Translation':

Matthew chapter 9,

17 `Nor do they put new wine into
old skins, and if not -- the skins burst, and the wine doth run out, and the
skins are destroyed, but they put new wine into new skins, and both are
preserved together.`

Sorry, the whole topic is fascinating, but don't want to divert my head ATM as researching something else, however wanted to record it more for a selfish reason to aid my failing memory and search skills/ resources.

[seleka]

I grew up in church, and I always recited "forgive us our 'debts' ...", but I also am aware of "trespasses".
I always thought it was just from a different bible version.

I am aware of the mandela effect on the lion becoming a wolf in Isaiah. Also the whole pouring new wine into "bottles" instead of wine skin. But I do not see a change in the Lord's prayer.
I also grew up in church. My mother and great grandmother taught sunday school. We memorized verses a lot. The world was a different world. If you are unfamiliar with the mandela effect read about it. Things have canged, same exact copy of the book, different words.

The KJV version (official) read Our Father Who Art in Heaven.... now the exact same copy of a bible, I am not talking about translations or editing.... it gets frustrating to explain this. My bible had different words in it than it does now and I am not crazy lol. It also said forgive us our tresspasses. There are and were other translations that said debtors, the methodist church I attended at 10 used it that way, but the tresspasses and who not which is the verse I grew up with. And Trump knows.... I didn't vote for him, but I am rooting for humanity

[Ernie Nemeth]

The "for the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours, now and forever" part is not in the catholic version - maybe it is now

[seleka]

Hello Skyflower,

thought pinged into my head (and I was meaning to find it on another thread but got distracted)..

I searched some old PDFs of bible versions and found this in 'Youngs Literal Translation':

Matthew chapter 9,

17 `Nor do they put new wine into
old skins, and if not -- the skins burst, and the wine doth run out, and the
skins are destroyed, but they put new wine into new skins, and both are
preserved together.`

Sorry, the whole topic is fascinating, but don't want to divert my head ATM as researching something else, however wanted to record it more for a selfish reason to aid my failing memory and search skills/ resources.

It doesn't matter researching.... the mandela effect changes written, digital, lots of records for those of us not of this place. The only research that exists to support us is in residuals, the hand written things, the embroidery of quotes, pictures etc.... although those change too. sometimes, some of them do not. Many instances of the lion and the lamb were found this way, yet every 'bible' 'translation' has wolf now... and we all know the wolf is the devil most of the time- so weird.

[Flash]

I have yet to see the mandela effect in French. Or in French culture. In our bible forexample it has always been the wolf and the lamb as far as I remember. And guess what: it is presumed to be the same bible as the English versioni brought that cultural point in an earlier post on the mandela thread asking non anglosaxon to bring examples from their language or culture, nobody responded. To me, up to now, this is an anglosaxon problem.




Hello Skyflower,

thought pinged into my head (and I was meaning to find it on another thread but got distracted)..

I searched some old PDFs of bible versions and found this in 'Youngs Literal Translation':

Matthew chapter 9,

17 `Nor do they put new wine into
old skins, and if not -- the skins burst, and the wine doth run out, and the
skins are destroyed, but they put new wine into new skins, and both are
preserved together.`

Sorry, the whole topic is fascinating, but don't want to divert my head ATM as researching something else, however wanted to record it more for a selfish reason to aid my failing memory and search skills/ resources.

It doesn't matter researching.... the mandela effect changes written, digital, lots of records for those of us not of this place. The only research that exists to support us is in residuals, the hand written things, the embroidery of quotes, pictures etc.... although those change too. sometimes, some of them do not. Many instances of the lion and the lamb were found this way, yet every 'bible' 'translation' has wolf now... and we all know the wolf is the devil most of the time- so weird.

[seleka]

If it has always been wolf and the lamb for you or bottles, stuff, couch, matrix or that jesus said to bring people before him and slay them, then you have not 'switched realities' is about the only way it can be said that I know of. For many of us those words were different before.

[Flash]

Wrong. In fact completely wrong. I do remember stuff in English or in the English speaking world that seem to have switch but it seems that it ain't happening in the French speaking world. Isn't that odd? This is why I asked avalonians from other languages to report mandela effect in their language. Question: is the mandela effect targetting only a large sub group of humans, namely the anglo saxons?

My question is valid - and its response may lead us to a different path than what we presume at the moment.

By the way i have been raised hard core catholic and certainly remember as well as you do what I read as a kid



If it has always been wolf and the lamb for you or bottles, stuff, couch, matrix or that jesus said to bring people before him and slay them, then you have not 'switched realities' is about the only way it can be said that I know of. For many of us those words were different before.

[RunningDeer]

Maybe it depends on your religion?

It seems the religious theme has come back around for me. I posted something yesterday on being raised Catholic and attended a Catholic Academy. We recited 'The Lord’s Prayer' daily beginning in the mid-1950's. When I saw the title of this thread, I wrote out first so I wouldn’t be influenced.

Not more than an hour prior, I happened upon a chart with the Lord’s Prayer at the back of the book I’m re-reading, “Discovering the Enneagram: An Ancient Tool for a New Spiritual Tool for a New Spiritual Journey,” by: Richard Rohr and Andreas Ebert, 1996. The Enneagram book matches my recollection and is the same as the video.

Whereas, it’s different in my hard copy and Kindle edition from Gregg Baden. Though they are similar in his, “The Spontaneous Healing of Belief,” pages 200-201, 2008 edition.

Our Father
Who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us
And with lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory forever and ever
Amen.


Gregg Braden’s version:

Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.

[Chester]

I grew up in church, and I always recited "forgive us our 'debts' ...", but I also am aware of "trespasses".
I always thought it was just from a different bible version.

I am aware of the mandela effect on the lion becoming a wolf in Isaiah. Also the whole pouring new wine into "bottles" instead of wine skin. But I do not see a change in the Lord's prayer.

Look at all the versions of the Bible. For Example, I remember when "The Good News" version came out... The Lord's Prayer has experienced the same thing. Its not the Mandela effect... its people using the version theu like the best.

see here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Prayer) -


Other English translations are also used.

Though Matthew 6:12 uses the term debts, the older English versions of the Lord's Prayer uses the term trespasses, while ecumenical versions often use the term sins. The latter choice may be due to Luke 11:4, which uses the word sins, while the former may be due to Matthew 6:14 (immediately after the text of the prayer), where Jesus speaks of trespasses.

[Desire]

Catholic and Eastern othordox Churches say "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us" Most Protestant Churches say " forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.

[seleka]

I will just have to say for some reason it seems people are not understanding this effect. There are many of us experiencing this and its not a matter of translation. It could be that the 'temporal anomaly' or what ever did this was 'located' or 'enacted' on just North America, yes. If this were true then the French versions would match what the American versions now say, which is different than what so many of us remember. No one is in any way questioning ones memory that is from this 'timeline' or 'earth'. One could not have a memory that is different than what was taught, and if it was that way always, that is what was learned. But it was different where we were. Many of the people seem to be on YT since the videos are there. I am surprised at the low number in forums and boards that are willing to talk about it. Its just too darn trippy. But added up, for us that came from elsewhere, these changes cannot be ignored.

[Flash]

you are the one not understanding what I am writing, and maybe what others are writing too. «please, reread my posts. For gosh sake, now we are at translation interpretation!!

If you want absolutely have the whole planet on mandela effect and never wonder about potential intricacies, I will not fight it with you, but it seems ridiculous to me not to want to explore it further, this is already fringe, why not look further.

So lets the whole planet on mandela effect, and this is it. Thanks for showing your open mindedness as you have! (sarcasm)

For your information, I am French but from North America, I live with both cultures, and it is not a matter of translation, it is a matter of absence of mandela effect in other cultures (not necessarily in other places)

How many languages do you speak? Where have you lived in your life? If the answer is one language and I always lived in the USA, then you cannot know what others are seeing or living in other places and other languages. So, why don't you plainly listen and explore what they are talking about?

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I will just have to say for some reason it seems people are not understanding this effect. There are many of us experiencing this and its not a matter of translation. It could be that the 'temporal anomaly' or what ever did this was 'located' or 'enacted' on just North America, yes. If this were true then the French versions would match what the American versions now say, which is different than what so many of us remember. No one is in any way questioning ones memory that is from this 'timeline' or 'earth'. One could not have a memory that is different than what was taught, and if it was that way always, that is what was learned. But it was different where we were. Many of the people seem to be on YT since the videos are there. I am surprised at the low number in forums and boards that are willing to talk about it. Its just too darn trippy. But added up, for us that came from elsewhere, these changes cannot be ignored.

[RunningDeer]

I am surprised at the low number in forums and boards that are willing to talk about it. Its just too darn trippy. But added up, for us that came from elsewhere, these changes cannot be ignored.
Note: I understand that your post is about other forums (and boards). I decided to stop @ page 8 of 31 on the Avalon search engine.

The Mandela Effect. Is this CERN? Project Pegasus? The Montauk Project? The Philadelphia Experiment? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91282-The-Mandela-Effect.-Is-this-CERN-Project-Pegasus-The-Montauk-Project-The-Philadelphia-Experiment)

Timeline shifts (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95125-Timeline-shifts&highlight=mandela+effect)

The Mandela Effect Poll (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95399-The-Mandela-Effect-Poll&highlight=mandela+effect)

Clif High: How the Mandela Effect may be caused by quantum computing affecting consciousness fields (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95973-Clif-High-How-the-Mandela-Effect-may-be-caused-by-quantum-computing-affecting-consciousness-fields&p=1134371&highlight=mandela+effect#post1134371)

People Claim To Have Seen A 90s Movie By Sinbad Called “Shazaam” But It Never Existed!?!? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95279-People-Claim-To-Have-Seen-A-90s-Movie-By-Sinbad-Called---Shazaam---But-It-Never-Existed---&highlight=mandela+effect)

Research paper on The Mandela Effect: strong statistical evidence (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93458-Research-paper-on-The-Mandela-Effect-strong-statistical-evidence&highlight=mandela+effect)

Julianne Moore "The Forgotten" The Mandela effect. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95226-Julianne-Moore-The-Forgotten-The-Mandela-effect.&highlight=mandela+effect)

[Franny]

When I was growing up I attended several protestant and catholic churches. I am familiar with ALL the versions of this prayer mentioned above.

It depended on the church; each had the version they favored. I don't remember which had trespasses or which had debts but one used debts and the other used trespasses. The same for the last line.

I understand the Mandela effect but I don't think this is it unless someone wants to claim some can remember several versions of reality. But in this case I think it's a matter of catholic and protestant usage.

[Patient]

When I was growing up I attended several protestant and catholic churches. I am familiar with ALL the versions of this prayer mentioned above.

It depended on the church; each had the version they favored. I don't remember which had trespasses or which had debts but one used debts and the other used trespasses. The same for the last line.

I understand the Mandela effect but I don't think this is it unless someone wants to claim some can remember several versions of reality. But in this case I think it's a matter of catholic and protestant usage.

There are many people that have said that the text in "their" bible that they own has changed. Their own bible that they have owned for years - regardless of type of religion.

I think that the conversation in this thread also shows the difficulty in trying to figure out the effects of the Mandela effect as there obviously are different people that recall different things. (And of course that is the point lol.) The Mandela effect is really an amazing thing in itself. There are so many questions yet to be discussed regarding it - this is a topic that will require patience. (Lol - sorry, couldn't resist!)

[EFO]

Maybe it depends on your religion?

It seems the religious theme has come back around for me. I posted something yesterday on being raised Catholic and attended a Catholic Academy. We recited 'The Lord’s Prayer' daily beginning in the mid-1950's. When I saw the title of this thread, I wrote out first so I wouldn’t be influenced.

Not more than an hour prior, I happened upon a chart with the Lord’s Prayer at the back of the book I’m re-reading, “Discovering the Enneagram: An Ancient Tool for a New Spiritual Tool for a New Spiritual Journey,” by: Richard Rohr and Andreas Ebert, 1996. The Enneagram book matches my recollection and is the same as the video.

Whereas, it’s different in my hard copy and Kindle edition from Gregg Baden. Though they are similar in his, “The Spontaneous Healing of Belief,” pages 200-201, 2008 edition.

Our Father
Who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us
And with lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory forever and ever
Amen.


Gregg Braden’s version:

Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.


More versions (http://www.lords-prayer-words.com/) on the left side of the page there's a tab with other versions:
The Lord's Prayer (http://www.lords-prayer-words.com/lord_aramaic_original_text.html)
Abwoon d'bashmaya
Netqaddash shmak
Teete malkutah
Nehvwey tzevyannach aykanna d'bashmaya aph b'arha
Havlan lahma d'sunqananan yaomana
Washbwoqlan haubvayn aykana daph hnan shbvoqan l'hayyabayn

Wela tahlan le'ynesyuna. Ela patzan min bisha
Metul dilakhe malkuta wahayla wateshbuhta l'ahlam almin
Amen

The Lord's Prayer in Aramaic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5oqGWWuEg

The Original Our Father in Jewish Aramaic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8IJOgMVE1Q

and one more thing - perhaps will help:
Banned From The Bible | The Stories That Were Deleted From Biblical History
(Adam and Eva,Enoch,Peter,Nicodemus,Jesus's childhood and others- interesting 1:23 hrs documentary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3kJ9iV925g&t=1822s

[RunningDeer]

More versions (http://www.lords-prayer-words.com/) on the left side of the page there's a tab with other versions:


I am French but from North America, I live with both cultures, and it is not a matter of translation, it is a matter of absence of mandela effect in other cultures (not necessarily in other places)

That solves that. Good find EFO. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/thumbs-up_zpsjodsbbua.GIF Quite a few versions and in different languages on that site.

French version (http://www.lords-prayer-words.com/lord_french_notre_pere.html) for Flash.

The Lord's Prayer
(French - "Notre Père")

Notre Père, qui es aux cieux,
Que ton nom soit sanctifié,
Que ton règne vienne,
Que ta volonté soit faite sur la terre comme au ciel.
Donne-nous aujourd'hui notre pain de ce jour.
Pardonne-nous nos offences
Comme nous pardonnons aussi à ceux qui nous ont offensés.
Et ne nous soumets pas à la tentation,
mais délivre-nous du mal,
car c'est à toi qu'appartiennent le règne,
la puissance et la gloire, aux siècles des siècles.
Amen.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/prayer_zpsoetaaytu.jpg

[Desire]

Ditto to what I said Latte. This one is just translation not Mandela effect.

[Foxie Loxie]

@EFO...thanks SO MUCH for posting the Banned Books video! It kind of completes the journey I have been on trying to figure out where our Bible came from. I see that what we have is a TOTALLY controlled version used as a political tool to concentrate power. :sherlock:

[Did You See Them]

Although I stopped going to church (catholic ) at the age of about 17 the words to our lords prayer was as follows:

Our Father
Who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

I've heard the line "For thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory forever and ever" added as the last line since but not sure if that was in a catholic church.
Never heard of any "debts" though !

[pyrangello]

How about just saying to her prayer a comment of "AMEN".

[Desire]

Pardon me if this it a repeat. I didn't watch all of the Banned from the Bible video.

The ' Nostic Bible" edited by Willis Barnstone and Marvin Meyer, Shambhla pub. Inc. 2003 contains

Pagan, Jewish, Christian, Mandaean, Islamic and Cathar text. It includes works as The Revelation of Adam ,The Gospel

of Mary (Mary of Magdala) and On the Origin of the World, all with introductions.

Also The Book of Enoch by Joseph B.

Lumpkin contains the three books of Enoch.

Good Reading! Desire

[Desire]

Did you see Them,
Yes that part is not in the Catholic version but in most Protestant versions as well as debt instead of trespass.
Cheers ,Desire

[DbDraad]

Well I'm from Mandela's country and in my reality he was in jail for 27 years and was freed in 1990. I recal "trespasses" or "sins" but not debts. Lion and Lamb in both languages I'm used to. Wolves were the ones in sheep skins.

[Desire]

You know what? Why can't we all be happy that she said a prayer and let it go at that She PRAYED .Good for her!

[EFO]

Speaking of Cathars:
Hymn of the Cathars "Lo boièr" (Le bouvier - The cattle herder) on 432hz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecY9I_oPv8

The text of this Cathar hymn contains an encoded message, Joana being the medieval cathar church, which has been weakened and finally eliminated in Southern France (Occitanie) through the horrible Albigensian crusade. The spiritual essence of the cathars is still vibrating in caves and waters.
Texte occitan:
1. Can lou bouyè ben de laoura, Planto soun agulhado, A.E.I.O.U. Planto soun agulhado.
2. Troubo sa femno al pè del foc, Touto déscounsoulado.
3. "Se 'n es malaouto digas oc, Te faren un poutadzé.
4. Amb uno rabo un caoulét, Uno laouzéto magro."
5. "Quan séraï morto rébound mé, Al pus pirou de la cabo.
6. Méttras mous pès à la parét, Lou cap jous la canèlo.
7. E lous roumious que passaran, Prendran d'aïgo ségnado."
8. E diran: "Cal es mort aïci, Es la paouro Joana.
9. Que 'n es anado al paradis, Al cèl ambé sas cabros."

Traduction française:
Quand le bouvier vient de labourer, plante son aiguillon, trouve sa femme au pied du feu, toute déconfite. "Si tu es malade dis-oui! Nous te ferons un potage avec une rave, un chou, une alouette maigre." "Quand je serai morte, enterre-moi au plus profond de la cave. Tu mettras mes pieds contre la muraille et la tête sous la cannelle. Et les pèlerins qui passeront prendront de l'eau bénite et diront: 'Qui est mort ici? C'est la pauvre Joana, qui s'est en allée en paradis, au ciel, avec ses chèvres.' "

Engl. translation:
When the herdsman comes back from work, plants his fork, finds his wife at the foot of fire, all discomfited. "If you're ill say yes! We will make a soup with kohlrabi, a cabbage, a lark thin." "When I die, bury me deep in the cellar. Put my feet against the wall, the head in the tap. And the pilgrims will take the holy water and say, 'Who died here? It is the poor Joana, who went to paradise, to heaven with his goats. '"

Deutsche Übersetzung:
1. Wenn der Ochsenhirt vom Pflügen kommt, seinen Treibstab abstellt, A.E.I.O.U. seinen Treibstab abstellt.
2. Findet seine Frau am Herd ganz zermürbt.
3. "Wenn du krank bist, sag es, wir machen dir eine Suppe.
4. Mit einer Rübe, einem Kohl, einer mageren Lerche."
5. "Wenn ich tot bin, begrabe mich im Keller an tiefster Stelle.
6. Setze meine Füße gegen die Mauern und mein Haupt unter den Faßhahn
7. Und die Pilger die vorbei kommen nehmen geweihtes Wasser.
8. Und werden sagen: 'Wer ist hier gestorben? Es ist die arme Joana!
9. Die fortgegangen ist ins Paradies, in den Himmel, mit ihren Schafen.' "

Gnosis - Gnostics Cathars, the True Christians | Documentary 53:27min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptNcSYo7k4

The Best Music of Cathars songs - Consolament Ensemble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbI0r04Mrv8

and speaking about banned gospels:
The Gospel of Judas - National Geographic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z77htOLSBiY

[Desire]

Thank you for the beautiful music. One can feel the truth in it.

[Foxie Loxie]

Most interesting to learn more about the Cathars. Thank you, EFO!

[Sequoia]

While I thought the Lord's Prayer by Mrs Trump was a beautiful statement of our President's Christian values, do not do harm to others, not so much which version of it…oh well..just couldn't in my wildest dreams imaging M Obama ever..well ugh you get my drift.

And if anyone for a minute think i'm pro-religion you thought wrong I think they are but a way to control people's minds, but I did have a Protestant upbringing with Mom who grew up in a generational Christian cult and Dad who was a Christian Spiritualist, took me a long battle to figure out..why the Abrahamic God of both the Hebrew Bible (which Christians obediently also follow) and Quran is so angry and people who worship him, are afraid of him and kill innocent people for their God

[Sequoia]

Our Bible today is essentially Septuagint, one (1) book of 5 or 6, it only consists of Hebrew texts compiled by some 70 Jewish scholars 2000 years ago, the Egyptian and Greek texts were simply dropped, we have never seen the rest or them yet
I'm winging it off the top of my head from long time ago when I heard about this but definitely worth looking into further if interested in ancient Christian texts, before the Roman Church took over...

[seleka]

I am surprised at the low number in forums and boards that are willing to talk about it. Its just too darn trippy. But added up, for us that came from elsewhere, these changes cannot be ignored.
Note: I understand that your post is about other forums (and boards). I decided to stop @ page 8 of 31 on the Avalon search engine.

The Mandela Effect. Is this CERN? Project Pegasus? The Montauk Project? The Philadelphia Experiment? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91282-The-Mandela-Effect.-Is-this-CERN-Project-Pegasus-The-Montauk-Project-The-Philadelphia-Experiment)

Timeline shifts (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95125-Timeline-shifts&highlight=mandela+effect)

The Mandela Effect Poll (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95399-The-Mandela-Effect-Poll&highlight=mandela+effect)

Clif High: How the Mandela Effect may be caused by quantum computing affecting consciousness fields (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95973-Clif-High-How-the-Mandela-Effect-may-be-caused-by-quantum-computing-affecting-consciousness-fields&p=1134371&highlight=mandela+effect#post1134371)

People Claim To Have Seen A 90s Movie By Sinbad Called “Shazaam” But It Never Existed!?!? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95279-People-Claim-To-Have-Seen-A-90s-Movie-By-Sinbad-Called---Shazaam---But-It-Never-Existed---&highlight=mandela+effect)

Research paper on The Mandela Effect: strong statistical evidence (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93458-Research-paper-on-The-Mandela-Effect-strong-statistical-evidence&highlight=mandela+effect)

Julianne Moore "The Forgotten" The Mandela effect. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95226-Julianne-Moore-The-Forgotten-The-Mandela-effect.&highlight=mandela+effect)


I have read the available recent threads on the mandela effect on here. Most have people trying to prove things in them and people trying to disprove it or explain why we are just remembering wrong. I believe the solution for me is to make a support type thread in the members area. I do not wish to keep explaining it to people, especially when they get so rude. I just want a place where others that are experiencing it can talk about it with me and how it is affecting their lives.

[seleka]

For the person about the other language. For one I do not appreciate the tone of your messages. I will explain again why I think it is only affecting english stuff (which is the same thing you say). We will have three different earths in this scenario. On earth A everyone knows the words to the lords prayer from KJV (official, not different translations, all languages) as who and tresspasses. On earth B everyone knows the words to the lords prayer as which and debtors (again, same KJV official, all languages). On earth C the people from earth A in america have landed on earth B somehow (not saying this is how the effect occurs, just trying to explain why it doesn't matter if I can speak other languages to make this scenario make sense) so therefore- all other countries see NO CHANGE. Ie, their bibles will read as they always have, while the 'american' translations seem to have changed to the americans, however to the french it is the same as it always was. IE the whole world is Earth B, but the people in americal from earth A are on it now too.