Has There Been A “Nuclear Incident” In The Arctic?

[MorningFox]

http://i.imgur.com/iuzbFhD.jpg

Increased levels of radioactive iodine isotopes have been detected across Europe, and now the deployment of the Air Force’s WC-135 “Constant Phoenix” atmosphere-sniffing jet has deepened the mystery.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/7758/has-there-been-a-nuclear-incident-in-the-arctic

[Olaf]

Pure speculatioin. The increased iodine 131 has nothing to to with artica.

First look at this map (http://www.irsn.fr/EN/newsroom/News/Pages/20170213_Detection-of-radioactive-iodine-at-trace-levels-in-Europe-in-January-2017.aspx). The amount of iodine 131 is decreasing when going north.


Vienna - The source of radioactive iodine, which has been measured in several European countries over recent weeks, seems to be discovered: According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), it is believed that it originates from a manufacturer of radioactive medical devices in Hungary.

The amounts of iodine 131 have been very low and did not pose a threat to health. If a person has air for a year, the load of which is the actual measured values, a total of 0.1 microsievert would come together, according to the IAEA.

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/erhoehte-radioaktivitaet-jod-131-stammt-wohl-von-medizinfirma-a-798441.html

[Johnny]

There has been a nuclear incident in the Arctic, but it was in 1968. I do not know if they found all the bombs, and now the ice is melting, something could come to the surface.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Thule_Air_Base_B-52_crash

Johnny :)

[Desire]

What about Japans 'Nuclear Incident"? That has spread nuclear waste all the way to the California coast and Oregon .

There goes the Pacific sea life!

[TargeT]

What about Japans 'Nuclear Incident"? That has spread nuclear waste all the way to the California coast and Oregon .

There goes the Pacific sea life!


That was a baseless fear that never happened and will not happen.

It's been 6 years, we'd know by now, NOAA has sensors all up and down the coast... nothing.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

You're more likely to get cancer and die from your smartphone than Fukushima.

I don't even like holding my phone for very long because I can still feel my hand tingling after. Those things operate on microwave frequencies. Might as well pop some popcorn in your microwave while holding your head right against it.

[TargeT]

Might as well pop some popcorn in your microwave while holding your head right against it.
At least microwaves have built in shielding.. your cell phone doesn't ;)


From the OP article:

By comparison, these recent measurements are roughly 1/1000th the size (http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2017/02/19/des-traces-d-iode-radioactif-detectees-dans-l-air-ambiant-en-europe_5082065_3244.html?utm_content=buffere999b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer) of what was detected during the Fukushima incidentso those are REALLY low measurements, like ultra low and it's a measurement of Iodine 131 which IS generally from "nuclear", but, also a by product of natural gas production (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131)... so maybe their sensors are a bit too sensitive?

Interesting & worth saving in the memory bank for possible corroboration later... but other than that I don't think this data is very useful on its own.


Looks like the highest concentration is in Poland and it's possibly coming from eastern EU (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2907525/dangerous-radioactive-particles-are-drifting-across-europe-and-no-one-knows-why/)?

[Desire]

Hi Target
I'm talking about this February, where the Japanese said they can not contain the damage or stop the leakage of radio activity. Reports said they don't know what to do. Also, reported was that the radio activity has hit the Cal and Oregon coast. One of our Australian members reported it on some sight here. I doubt they even mentioned it in USA.I heard one line mentioned on a cable news station. I'ii see if I can locat where I read it

[Desire]

Hi again,
ok I found two posts that talk about the leaks. If you go to General Forum under News and Updates then climate and environment there are two posts.
Cidersomerset-"Japan Nuclear Agency Update Fucushima Alert Level" posted 8 Feb 17 and UZN " Fukushima: Sets New Record " posted 12 Feb 17.
I hope this is useful and
I hope it is not as bad as I thought it to be!
Cheers, Desire

[TargeT]

Target I'm talking about this February, where the Japanese said they can not contain the damage or stop the leakage of radio activity.

That is true, but in a very specific way: The core of at least one reactor appears to be outside the containment vessel, so it is no longer "contained" as originally designed; yet still with in the original safety measures (multiple layers).

The level of "leaked radiation" is what needs to be scrutinized here; if "THE DAM HAS WATER SPILLING OVER THE TOP!" is the statement, we need to know if it's a cup an hour or 20,000 gallons per min. the "amount" of leak is highly relivant (and: where is it leaking too).

I can answer both: It's a small amount and it's a local problem.


was that the radio activity has hit the Cal and Oregon coast.

That could eventually happen, some Ceasium would certainly make it all the way to the west coast, but you're going to need some super accurate sensors to even notice it is there.

It hasn't happened yet, may not for years (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2015/03/16/the-fukushima-disaster-wasnt-very-disastrous/#777c044351e7)... and when it does it will be at levels barely above background radiation (aka nothing to worry about).


Radiation is not what we were lead to believe it is.. it's not nearly as bad (it can be!) as most people think it is.




Hi again,
ok I found two posts that talk about the leaks. If you go to General Forum under News and Updates then climate and environment there are two posts.
Cidersomerset-"Japan Nuclear Agency Update Fucushima Alert Level (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62507-Japan-nuclear-agency-upgrades-Fukushima-alert-level&p=1132948&viewfull=1#post1132948)" posted 8 Feb 17 and UZN " Fukushima: Sets New Record " posted 12 Feb 17.
I hope this is useful and
I hope it is not as bad as I thought it to be!
Cheers, Desire

the "new record" is from inside the containment vessel, so that's just really manipulative wording, yes it's the highest reading ever taken at the site, but it's inside the containment vessel where the nuclear reactions take place.. OF COURSE it's going to be very radioactive there, the core is still present!