How Is Truth Best Served?

[Celine]

The subject of truth has come up often here at Avalon.

Truth is a right IMO.

I have the right to know the truth about who/what i am.

Do i..or should i... share that truth?

If i do... do i put it out on a platter for all to feast on?

Some might dissect it to the point of not being recognizable anymore, some might not like the taste...

Do i use facts? graphs? Maybe an expert or two to back up my claims?

Should my truth be free? Is there a cost to knowing my truth?

Truth is both beautiful and ugly... Truth may satiate and leave you hungry for more.

Many truthspeakers here (and elsewhere) are questioning there next step.

From Bill...to the newest member, we all have truth to share.

i Humbly ask these questions, with a genuine interest in your answers.

i believe Truth, will be the biggest most important subject of the new year...


with love,
celine

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Celine, you've been thinking and wondering. I like that. Excellent questions!!!! Reminds me of the ad from our local Unitarian church years ago, before I had a clue about much of anything, which showed a picture of the minister saying " to question is the answer." Thankfully that stuck with me. It still works.

In my humble opinion your last line was the most important.

" I believe Truth, will be the most important subject of the new year."

I've gone through many of the scenarios you lay out, through trial and MUCH error. It seems to me anyway, as of very recently, that the Truth is becoming ALL that matters. Nothing else. Obviously it should have always been thus, but it hasn't. I'm suddenly finding myself obliged to at least put voice to a small part of my truth to people when so prompted, when until recently I would stay silent. We all know the reasons for staying silent. I found myself at family early Christmas this year speaking things I've discovered, during the course of conversation, that before I wouldn't have. Things most people haven't a clue of, but then shutting the hell up before making a spectacle of myself.

It seems to come back to how I was awakened. No one could tell me anything, but certain tidbits stuck in little nooks and crannies of my subconscious. That "crazy man' David Icke is a good example, until one day a couple of years ago I suddenly sat up on the couch and was like, "What in the hell is going on around here? This does NOT make sense, and I'm being lied to by the people I've always trusted!" Next thing ya know I'm in the book store and suddenly wondering what that crazy Icke guy was talking about again? Let's actually have a looksy here with an open mind, and let the chips fall where they will.

Planting seeds it is I guess. Maybe if their world also goes nuts one day and everything they have been taught to believe suddenly makes sense no more, they'll think back to what crazy Uncle Fred was saying some time back, and I'll get a surprise visit..........Or not.............

Cheers,
Fred S.

[sjkted]

IMO, truth is best served to someone with open ears.

--sjkted

[truthseekerdan]

Hi Celine,

Thank you for starting this thread about the "evasive Truth" (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2018:38&version=ESV). :) Although I do agree with the substance of your post, I believe that truth might not be the same for everyone -- that is due to each one of us perspectives.

When we see the world, what we are seeing is the inside of our mind. When we experience the idea of how things really are we actually perceive a condensed version of reality that fits our idea of truth, not the truth itself.

Truth is that which does not contaminate or harm us, but empowers us. Truth is what we are now in the present moment, without the least trace of the last moment or any expectation of the next moment.

If you can imagine the TRUTH as a large Earth' jigsaw puzzle -- in order to complete the puzzle, you need to search the whole world wisely to find the right pieces. One can say it's impossible to do that, even with the help of today's technology (the Internet) -- there is one simpler solution, to look within yourself (heart), and find the answer(s).
No one else can help you with that pursuit, but yourself... Hope this helps. :love: ~ Dan

“If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.” ~ C.S. Lewis

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[Cate]

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[xbusymom]

truth must be served on an open platter, with side dishes of compassion, tact and a splash or two of wonder-awe and humor...

[truthseekerdan]

I like the way you've put it Dan :)

It can be quite difficult at times to know what to post and what not to post...

I generally try to post information I feel will be useful and interesting to members.. and only post personal reflections if I feel they will be helpful in some way to others..

I've personally grown much through listening to and sharing personal points of view and stories/reflections with others in my life..

But there is no easy answer to this..

Cate

I do like this quote though -

''In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act'' - George Orwell

Hi Cate, :)

Thank you for your useful post. I also like and agree with this quote:

“Truth, in matters of religion, is simply the opinion that has survived” - Oscar Wilde

[Cate]

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[Ahkenaten]

I personally do not believe that Truth is relative, i.e. that it is "different for everyone." Though we only dimly grasp it, there are elemental truths in nature. Rarely do other creatures than humans lie, for example. It simply falls outside the realm of possibility for most other beings, though I have heard that one of the Chimps at the Yerkes Institute "lied" when confronted with ransacking the kitchen, blaming someone else for the mess, which is VERY INTERESTING. I think we need to rethink and reshape our very notion of what TRUTH is. If we begin by accepting the (I believe false) notion that TRUTH is relative, i.e. different for everyone, any discussion soon breaks down along fragmented and subjective lines. Perhaps it would be more fruitful to discuss ways that, together, we can move ourselves to resonate - rather than THINK/DEBATE to the unseen higher levels of reality. Otherwise we will be bogged down on the more mundane planes and will not be helping one another move up.

[norman]

How is truth best served?

Lift away the word, the name, the identity. Do it so conciously that even when all that has been taken away from it is gone, you still know it's there and you still know it is true.

[Ahkenaten]

We must relearn how to make the power of the word and language work FOR us rather than against us. This gets into harmonics, resonant frequencies, the very forces of creation itself. We must collectively rise up and throw off the perceptual chains that imprison us.