Magnesium supplement - what form is best?

[Dennis Leahy]

Magnesium supplements come as a variety of chemical compounds (magnesium taurinate, glycinate, gluconate, citrate, oxide, aspartate...)

Mag citrate I associate with "bowel cleansing" (self-induced diarrhea) before proctoscopic exams, but the rest of the compounds... well, which do you recommend, and why?

If it helps, I am looking to increase my intake of magnesium to see if it positively affects my neurological system. I'm also asking about magnesium for 2 other people, both of whom are interested in the anti-depressant properties of magnesium. (One of them just started taking Zoloft - because modern Western "medicine" doesn't even glance at what vitamins, minerals, pure water, clean air/oxygen, quality food, exercise, sunshine, yoga, etc. can do - they just immediately reach for their prescription pads and (often using a pen with a pharmaceutical logo on it), write a prescription.

Thanks in advance for any assistance with this.

Dennis

[Mike]

hi Dennis, ive got quite a bit of experience in this area actually...

i would suggest a product called 'Ease'. its a magnesium spray (mag chloride). its absorbed thru the skin and immediately enters the bloodstream. ive had some luck with this company's products. very high quality.

mag pills are okay, but are a little unsettling and often result in diarrhea. plus, i believe some of it is lost during digestion.

https://www.activationproducts.com/product/ease-magnesium/

[Jean-Marie]

I suggest looking at this Project Avalon thread.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86797-Magnesium-BiCarbonate-Water-a-guide-to-make&highlight=magnesium+bicarbonate

[ThePythonicCow]

hi Dennis, ive got quite a bit of experience in this area actually...

i would suggest a product called 'Ease'. its a magnesium spray (mag chloride). its absorbed thru the skin and immediately enters the bloodstream. ive had some luck with this company's products. very high quality.

mag pills are okay, but are a little unsettling and often result in diarrhea. plus, i believe some of it is lost during digestion.

https://www.activationproducts.com/product/ease-magnesium/
Yes - the "spray on" is called transdermal magnesium. It's a great way to boost ones magnesium levels, quickly. You can get it as a solution, such as this (http://a.co/6Oaoetu ), already dissolved in water, ready to spray on your skin, or as a powder, that you can add water to. A kilogram (1000 gm) of this magnesium chloride powder might cost $20, and at a half-gram (0.5 gm) per day of magnesium would last 1000/0.5 == 2000 days == about 6 years, for a penny per day.

Another classic is foot soaks with epsom salts, which is a solution of magnesium sulfate, another water soluable form, that is also absorbed through the skin.

Then there is Bob's epic thread Magnesium BiCarbonate Water - a guide to make (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86797-Magnesium-BiCarbonate-Water-a-guide-to-make), for a homemade magnesium solution that is suitable for adding to one's drinking water.

Then there are fancier potions, that include other helpful aids to absorbtion, such as Ultra Pure Magnesium Oil with OptiMSM (https://athletesbest.com/shop/ultra-pure-magnesium-oil-with-msm/).

So far as oral supplements, http://peoplesrx.com/the-best-kind-of-magnesium-for-you/ says that Magnesium L-threonate might benefit neurological and brain function more.

Magnesium oxide is a form of powdered rock, and is cheap but very poorly absorbed.

The chelated forms come in larger tablets - you can end up taking "horse pill" sized supplements for the larger doses, which some people will find to be a problem. Magnesium citrate can be a good compromise on price, pill size, and absorbability.

I routinely add both home made magnesium bicarbonate (not insoluable magnesium carbonate) and magnesium sulfate (aka Epsom salts) to my drinking water, along with a wide assortment of other minerals. If I want to clean out my intestines real good, real fast, I use the same magnesium sulfate ... just more of it, as explained here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71677-Chemtrails-Raining-DIAMONDS--&p=837878&viewfull=1#post837878).

[onawah]

I can't remember now where I read this, but there is research showing that glyphosate (which is pretty much unavoidable in the US at least) blocks the absorption of magnesium in the digestive system, which may be one big reason we are experiencing so much magnesium deficiency) but it can still be absorbed through the skin, so using it topically is probably your best bet.
Magnesium oil is expensive, but an inexpensive solution is to take frequent epsom salt baths, and/or dissolve equal parts magnesium flakes and boiling water which you can use to make your own magnesium oil.
I get mine here:
https://www.vitacost.com/life-flo-pure-magnesium-flakes-2-75-lbs?csrc=GPF-PA-Beauty%20%26%20Personal%20Care-645951291321&ci_gpa=pla&ci_kw=&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=645951291321&csrc=GPF-PA&mtp=sQqQSmzf6-dc|pcrid|97670541133|product|645951291321&gclid=CPzburGA69ICFZE1aQod7HkA_g
By itself, the solution is itchy when applied, but I make a blend of shea butter and coconut oil, apply that first and then spray on the magnesium oil.
It takes awhile to absorb and is oily so I do it just before bed and lie on a towel until it's dry.

[DeDukshyn]

Depends on what you need it for ...

Please read through this short but incredibly comprehensive article on all the forms and how each is different. Also do peruse the comments - some excellent info answered by the author, our own Dr. Paul Hrkal -- naturopathic medical advisor for AOR (http://www.aor.ca/en/home).

Dennis if you have any specific questions regarding appropriate forms of magnesium for certain conditions, or any other general info - my colleague Paul (Dr. Hrkal) will answer your questions on that blog article thread.

https://drnibber.com/understanding-different-types-of-magnesium/



And here is an article on why even though magnesium is quite a ubiquitous mineral, we still have deficiencies.
https://drnibber.com/q-a-why-is-magnesium-such-a-common-deficiency/ <-- EDIT: just fixed this link

[Dennis Leahy]

Thanks so much to all of you that took the time to answer and provide resources. I will investigate them.

:~)

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Dennis Dr.Carolyn Dean is known as the 'Magnesium queen' This is something
I have to look into as well. I follow Bob & Ion but the third member and validates
a lot of the medical info they discuss in their shows is Dr.Carolyn Dean who is in
her 90's as is Bob but look , act and live like a lot younger folks.....

I saw this article on David Ickes site a few days ago and I was thinking about this...

Natural News....

EPA scientist warns that glyphosate (RoundUp) herbicide strips minerals out of
food, leaving the body deficient in Zinc and Magnesium

Sunday, March 19, 2017 by: JD Heyes
Tags: carcinogen, EPA, glyphosate, Monsanto, Roundup

http://naturalnews.com/2017-03-19-epa-scientist-warns-that-glyphosate-roundup-herbicide-strips-minerals-out-of-food-leaving-the-body-deficient-in-zinc-and-magnesium.html




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Magnesium Deficiency 101 - Dr. Carolyn Dean

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Published on 15 Oct 2016


In this interview with Lars of the Body/Mind Institute, Dr. Carolyn Dean provides
an excellent overview of magnesium deficiency symptoms and treatment protocols
that can be used by the lay person or practitioner. Excellent, self-empowering
information for health and well-being.

http://drcarolyndean.com
http://blog.rnareset.com
http://drcarolyndeanlive.com

Video content and time stamps:

Dr. Dean – background on discovering The Magnesium Miracle

3:52 – Avoiding the allopathic approach

5:42 – How minerals affect the electrical conductivity of the body

7:27 – How vitamins and minerals effect your genes

9:28 – How people are suffering from diet and supplement fanaticism

13:00 – Full slide screen presentation on The Magnesium Miracle

13:40 – Dr. Dean’s own magnesium deficiency symptoms

14:45 - Preventing the laxative effect while using magnesium

15:50 – The calcium, Vitamin D and magnesium intersection

16:28 – The functions of magnesium

17:45 – Magnesium’s role in ATP production

19:40 – How did I become magnesium deficient? Quiz

29:00 – Fluoride through water, dental products and drugs

34:00 – Seriously magnesium depleting drugs like Cipro, Prozac, Lipitor, Flecainide and PPI’s like Prevacid

38:05 – Acid reflux, anxiety and adrenal fatigue – treating these symptoms naturally through magnesium and minerals

41:45 - Low magnesium is a medically recognized sign of diabetics

43:45 – How much magnesium does a person require?

51:15 – Therapeutic forms of magnesium

54:25 – What other minerals should I be using?

1:01 – Closing comments

[bettye198]

We only use Magnesium Lactate in our practice. Made by Standard Process in Wisconsin.

[dynamo]

Glad I found this thread, been looking at magnesium for heart issues (arrhythmia), chest pain and high blood pressure.
An herbalist friend of mine emailed this info to me yesterday:

make sure you are doing hawthron lleaf teas --magnesium citrate 100mgs with taurine 500mgs and potassium 99mgs and do these minimally 4 times a day
and adding cq10 100mgs
lay off pops which deplete the mag and potassium and no processed sugar --number 1 killer for most people of ethnic origins --insulin up Testosterone down and when the T goes down so does the heart for males since it has the highest levels
Hope it is somewhat on topic.
I am going to gather up the ingredients in the next few days.
I have done the magnesium citrate (no issues with diarrhea) and taurine some 3-4 years ago but have had surgery for heart valve issues since then.

[enigma3]

I have used Now colloidal minerals to supplement my regular vitamin intake for years. 15 minerals from prehistoric plant deposits in Utah. Good stuff. I remember a tape from the 70's called Dead Doctors Don't Lie that stated as we age we absorb less vitamins, even naturally. One of the best ways found even then was to take colloidal minerals, the vitamins you wish to take and orange juice after your biggest meal of the day. I see this as a long term attempt to balance the minerals in the ol' body.

[Jon-tom]

I take magnesium once a day for muscle cramps. I spend 10 hour workdays standing on a concrete floor. And I'm not getting enough cardio exercise. But I found out just now, thanks to this thread, that taurine is good for you. I have high blood pressure, too. I thought taurine was something bad they put in those energy drinks.

[Bill Ryan]

If it helps, I am looking to increase my intake of magnesium to see if it positively affects my neurological system. I'm also asking about magnesium for 2 other people, both of whom are interested in the anti-depressant properties of magnesium.

Lithium, too. It's been explained to me by a holistic practitioner who really knows his stuff that lithium orotate is the best form. It helps to optimize all neurological function.

Although we don't need much, almost everyone is deficient in lithium these days. The cause is not well understood, but it's theorized it may have to do with too much aluminum in the environment, and in food. The body absorbs the aluminum from everywhere around, and lithium absorption (which is important) gets sidelined and is a casualty.

[ThePythonicCow]

Although we don't need much, almost everyone is deficient in lithium these days. The cause is not well understood, but it's theorized it may have to do with too much aluminum in the environment, and in food.
I'd be surprised, off-hand, if there was much overlap in the biochemistry, between the effects of lithium, and of aluminum. True, they both effect the nervous system, and other biological systems, but I would expect that they effect different specific biochemical reactions, because their basic chemistry is different.

Lithium is in the first column in the periodic table, above sodium and potassium, all with a single electron in the outer shell. Lithium and its one-electron outer shell colleagues, sodium and potassium, are critical to many biological activities. That outer electron conducts easily. Lithium, being the smallest of the three, has the most energetic bonding, so is the easiest of the three to overdose. Sodium and potassium are both needed in relatively larger amounts, and should be in some sort of balance in the diet, as many biochemical reactions will oscillate back and forth between using the two of them, the smaller sodium bonding a bit tighter, and the larger potassium bonding to the same places, a bit looser.

Aluminum is two columns over, under boron, with three electons in the outer shell. None of the elements in that column are essential except for the smallest of them, the boron, and that should only consumed in small quantities. Apparently there are a few, relatively rare, biochemical actions that call for a mineral with exactly 3 outer shell electrons. Aluminum and the heavier elements below boron are toxic ... the less consumed the better. Aluminum is poorly absorbed, which is good, as aluminum is very abundant in the earth's crust. What aluminum does get into the body (say as a vaccine adjuvant) is quite toxic to the nervous system.

We likely (usually) used to get more or less adequate amounts of these minerals from our water, and from the plants and animals that grew up on the same water. However our industrially processed (and industrially polluted) water, our mineral depleted soils that feed the plants and animals we eat, and the mineral binding glyphosate (Round Up) have delivered a one-two-three punch to our mineral sources. Those living on relatively healthy land, with locally grown food by traditional means, no glyphosate, and good spring or mountain stream water (hi Bill) may still be getting most of the minerals they need in their normal diet and water. Many of us are not so fortunate.

I personally spend a substantial effort (1) cleaning out the bad stuff out of my municipal water, (2) adding back in a wide variety of essential minerals in soluable forms, and (3) re-energizing the water's structure with music, light, magnets and vortices.

[Olaf]

According to drnibber.com/understanding-different-types-of-magnesium (https://drnibber.com/understanding-different-types-of-magnesium/)..


Magnesium orotate ... has good bioavailability has had been studied specifically for heart health. Orotates can penetrate cell membranes, enabling the effective delivery of the magnesium ion to the innermost layers of the cellular mitochondria and nucleus.

Nevertheless, it can be hard to fix the deficits with magnesium orotate.

Below you see the result of a multi trace element analyses of one of my patients (DMSA mobilisation test).
Last year this woman took almost 700 tablets of 500 mg magnesium ororate. Nevertheless, she still has a magnesium shortage of -59 percent.

BTW: you see also very huge deficiencies of ferrum and lithium, selen, kobalt (= vitamin B12), molybden, and vanadium.

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[Ewan]

If it helps, I am looking to increase my intake of magnesium to see if it positively affects my neurological system. I'm also asking about magnesium for 2 other people, both of whom are interested in the anti-depressant properties of magnesium.

Lithium, too. It's been explained to me by a holistic practitioner who really knows his stuff that lithium orotate is the best form. It helps to optimize all neurological function.

Although we don't need much, almost everyone is deficient in lithium these days. The cause is not well understood, but it's theorized it may have to do with too much aluminum in the environment, and in food. The body absorbs the aluminum from everywhere around, and lithium absorption (which is important) gets sidelined and is a casualty.

Care to expand on this somewhere. Recommended dosage, quality supplier etc. There is lots of it on Ebay, along with Lithium Aspartate?

Dennis, I'd certainly recommend the 'making your own water' method based on peronal experience.

Paul When are you ever going to get around to describing your water making process, as you intimated you might somewhere.. :)

[dynamo]

... Those living on relatively healthy land, with locally grown food by traditional means, no glyphosate, and good spring or mountain stream water (hi Bill) may still be getting most of the minerals they need in their normal diet and water. Many of us are not so fortunate.

I personally spend a substantial effort (1) cleaning out the bad stuff out of my municipal water, (2) adding back in a wide variety of essential minerals in soluable forms, and (3) re-energizing the water's structure with music, light, magnets and vortices.

Thanks Paul, I don't mean to get off topic but would you mind sharing how you revitalize your drinking water?
We run our city water through a 7-stage Reverse Osmosis system which includes a mineral-adding "polishing filter" as the last stage.
Do you place it in a jug or pitcher afterward and then proceed with the audio, electromagnetic and physical stimulation?


...
Paul When are you ever going to get around to describing your water making process, as you intimated you might somewhere.. :)
[EDIT]
Oooops, I see now that Ewan had already asked the same thing...

[conk]

We only use Magnesium Lactate in our practice. Made by Standard Process in Wisconsin. From what I've learned over several decades, there is no better supplement company than Standard Process. A few perhaps are equal in some respects, but SP is the standard bearer. The quality and effectiveness is unsurpassed.

And yes, I agree, chemicals in our environment are blocking the absorption of vitamins and minerals (what little there is in the plants now days). I eat lots of magnesium rich foods, yet was recently tested as being extremely low in it. Have since gone to topical use as described above. Right after a shower. It goes on easily and is absorbed quickly. Epson baths every few days too.

[ThePythonicCow]

...Paul When are you ever going to get around to describing your water making process, as you intimated you might somewhere.. :)

Thanks Paul, I don't mean to get off topic but would you mind sharing how you revitalize your drinking water?

Ok - finally - enjoy: How to "make" healthy water: filters, minerals and energy (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96793-How-to-make-healthy-water-filters-minerals-and-energy)

[marielle]

I'm sure many will think this is complete overkill, but, hey, what the heck:p...after realizing that my panic attacks and other issues were due to a magnesium deficiency, I started using magnesium "oil" however I discovered that bathing in magnesium water really helped me as well but I was spending too much money on the salts every night for a soak. Long story short--I've created a magnesium soaking spa that I keep in my bathtub. I keep it heated and sterilized like a hot tub. So I get both the benefits of a hot soak--like a Japanese Ofuro tub and the transdermal magnesium.

I put 55 gallons of water in the vinyl soaking tub, enough to soak up to my neck. For salts I add about 20 lbs of magnesium chloride (from the Dead Sea) and 20 lbs of magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt). It's a wonderful experience. I keep it heated to 102 to 105 degrees and it uses about 2.5 KWH per day. It's wrapped in a insulation blanket and covered with a 3 inch thick (clear vinyl-wrapped) circular piece of foam rubber when not in use.

I heat it with a fish tank heater and sterilize it with a 13 watt UV light and pump--both submersible and both made for salt water tanks. I oxidize with 35% H2O2. I also run a bigger Intex filter pump a few hours every couple of days. Setting up that filter pump is the only real hassle since I don't soak with those big hoses in the tub. It's all plugged into a GFCI outlet.

Here's a picture that I was almost too embarrassed to post. I'm still tweaking the whole setup. This has been a work-in-progress for several months.
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And if you're wondering if you can fit--my husband is 6'2" 200 lbs and he fits. You have to sit with your legs crossed or with your knees folded up.

[DeDukshyn]

According to drnibber.com/understanding-different-types-of-magnesium (https://drnibber.com/understanding-different-types-of-magnesium/)..


Magnesium orotate ... has good bioavailability has had been studied specifically for heart health. Orotates can penetrate cell membranes, enabling the effective delivery of the magnesium ion to the innermost layers of the cellular mitochondria and nucleus.

Nevertheless, it can be hard to fix the deficits with magnesium orotate.

Below you see the result of a multi trace element analyses of one of my patients (DMSA mobilisation test).
Last year this woman took almost 700 tablets of 500 mg magnesium ororate. Nevertheless, she still has a magnesium shortage of -59 percent.

BTW: you see also very huge deficiencies of ferrum and lithium, selen, kobalt (= vitamin B12), molybden, and vanadium.

35081

Magnesium orotate is a very bulky mulecule. 500 mg of mag orotate yields only about 31mg of elemental magnesium - so trying to fix a deficiency on 62mg a day isn't really expected to work. 3000mg of orotate per day is the qty needed to combat a deficiency, but also, using only mag orotate to combat magnesium deficiency wouldn't be wise, plain due to the much higher cost of this form. However, the orotate form is very bio-available and does have other substantial benefits especially regarding cardiac health. Magnesium oxide, while containing 45% elemental magnesium is also relatively poor at combating major deficiencies, plain due to its very low overall bio-availability; however, if constipation is also an issue - this is the magnesium for you.

As mentioned, the right form depends entirely on what you expect to use it for.

I personally use a blend - Glycinate, Aspartate, Malate, and Ascorbate, yielding 100mg of elemental magnesium per capsule. I jut take one a day for maintenance -as a nice side effect, when I started taking this a twitch in my eyelid went away. :)

[bettye198]

Lithium is a bit tricky. It doesn't take much to become toxic.

[DeDukshyn]

Lithium is a bit tricky. It doesn't take much to become toxic.

True. This is why the orotate form was created (lithium orotate). There are other forms like carbonate and citrate but the bioavaiolability of those is dependant on other factors and it is harder to control proper dosage. The citrate and carbonate forms I believe are drugs to be prescribed by physicians only due to this. Lithium orotate is available in supplement stores.

That said, lithium is an essential mineral and deficiencies can cause serious issues related to cognition and overall mind wellness. There has been some interesting results in some of the trials and research with lithium as a supplement. However, most foods and drinking water do have trace amounts, and the body does not need much.

[Mike]

magnesium threonate is a relatively new form to emerge, and is believed by some, including dr mercola, to be the best form due its ability to penetrate the mitochondrial membrane.

[DeDukshyn]

magnesium threonate is a relatively new form to emerge, and is believed by some, including dr mercola, to be the best form due its ability to penetrate the mitochondrial membrane.

A little more on L-Threonate ... From the link I posted somewhere back there ... not a whole lot of peer reviewed study data yet, but it is showing great promise as yet another form of magnesium for another somewhat targeted application.








Magnesium-L-Threonate: This form of magnesium has recently been studied to improve memory and brain function. One preliminary study in animals found that it significantly enhanced both short-term and long-term memory, boosting scores by 15% for short-term memory and 54% for long-term memory compared to magnesium citrate.8 Based on this study, it appears that magnesium-L-threonate is a highly absorbable form of magnesium that can improve brain function. While this research is promising, more is needed to confirm its benefit.

[onawah]

To cut down on the number of supplements I've been buying, I'm ordering this for the first time: Trace Minerals Research Trace Mineral Drops ConcenTrace®
https://www.vitacost.com/trace-minerals-research-trace-mineral-drops-concentrace-8-fl-oz-4
It says there:
Description
The Most Powerful, All-Natural, pH Balancing Trace Minerals in the World
Soluble, Ionic, Vegan
Certified Vegan, Gluten Free
Concentrace® Trace Mineral Drops is a natural mineral concentrate that is so concentrate that 40 drops (1/2 teaspoon) equals the mineral content of 1/2 cup sea water with 99% sodium removed. You may expect a wide spectrum of nutritional benefits. For regular or sodium restricted diets.
Directions

Begin regimen by taking 1/4 teaspoon (20 drops) for 3 consecutive days. Each day thereafter, increase dosage by 5 drops up to 1/2 teaspoon (40 drops) once or twice daily. Mix with any beverage or food at mealtimes to mask the concentrated mineral flavor followed by a glass of juice or water. Moderately ncreased dosages are safe if needed or desired, but larger amounts may cause a laxative effect.
Free Of
Known allergens, gluten
Disclaimer
These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1/2 Teaspoon (About 40 Drops)
Servings per Container: 96
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Magnesium 250 mg 63%
Chloride 690 mg 21%
Sodium 5 mg 0%
Potassium 3 mg 0%
Sulfate 37 mg *
Lithium 395 mcg *
Boron 370 mcg *
*Daily value not established.
Other Ingredients: Ionic sea minerals. Contains no other added ingredients. In addition Contains no other added ingredients. In addition to the elements listed above, this product contains the following in naturally occurring, varying trace amounts: Bromide, carbonate, calcium, silicon, nitrogen, selenium, phosphorus, iodide, chromium, manganese, titanium, rubidium, cobalt, copper, antimony, molybdenum, strontium, zinc, nickel, tungsten, germanium, scandium, vanadium, tellurium, tin, lanthanum, yttrium, silver, gallium, bismuth, zirconium, cerium, cesium, gold, beryllium, hafnium, samarium, terbium, europium, gadolinium, dysprosium, thorium, holmium, lutetium, erbium, ytterbium, neodymium, praseodymium, niobium, tantalum, thallium, rhenium, indium and palladium, plus the other elements found in sea water. This list is in approximate descending order.

Has anyone tried this, or have an opinion?

[DeDukshyn]

To cut down on the number of supplements I've been buying, I'm ordering this for the first time: Trace Minerals Research Trace Mineral Drops ConcenTrace®
https://www.vitacost.com/trace-minerals-research-trace-mineral-drops-concentrace-8-fl-oz-4
It says there:
Description
The Most Powerful, All-Natural, pH Balancing Trace Minerals in the World
Soluble, Ionic, Vegan
Certified Vegan, Gluten Free
Concentrace® Trace Mineral Drops is a natural mineral concentrate that is so concentrate that 40 drops (1/2 teaspoon) equals the mineral content of 1/2 cup sea water with 99% sodium removed. You may expect a wide spectrum of nutritional benefits. For regular or sodium restricted diets.
Directions

Begin regimen by taking 1/4 teaspoon (20 drops) for 3 consecutive days. Each day thereafter, increase dosage by 5 drops up to 1/2 teaspoon (40 drops) once or twice daily. Mix with any beverage or food at mealtimes to mask the concentrated mineral flavor followed by a glass of juice or water. Moderately ncreased dosages are safe if needed or desired, but larger amounts may cause a laxative effect.
Free Of
Known allergens, gluten
Disclaimer
These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1/2 Teaspoon (About 40 Drops)
Servings per Container: 96
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Magnesium 250 mg 63%
Chloride 690 mg 21%
Sodium 5 mg 0%
Potassium 3 mg 0%
Sulfate 37 mg *
Lithium 395 mcg *
Boron 370 mcg *
*Daily value not established.
Other Ingredients: Ionic sea minerals. Contains no other added ingredients. In addition Contains no other added ingredients. In addition to the elements listed above, this product contains the following in naturally occurring, varying trace amounts: Bromide, carbonate, calcium, silicon, nitrogen, selenium, phosphorus, iodide, chromium, manganese, titanium, rubidium, cobalt, copper, antimony, molybdenum, strontium, zinc, nickel, tungsten, germanium, scandium, vanadium, tellurium, tin, lanthanum, yttrium, silver, gallium, bismuth, zirconium, cerium, cesium, gold, beryllium, hafnium, samarium, terbium, europium, gadolinium, dysprosium, thorium, holmium, lutetium, erbium, ytterbium, neodymium, praseodymium, niobium, tantalum, thallium, rhenium, indium and palladium, plus the other elements found in sea water. This list is in approximate descending order.

Has anyone tried this, or have an opinion?

A guy I worked with once also was, or was an ex, rep for Trace Minerals. Part of the main hypothesis is that the human body may indeed need (as in be essential) or at least reasonably can utilize for increased health, rare elements in trace amounts. Some minerals may indeed be essential but just in such trace quantities that it can't be reasonably confirmed. Such a supplement removes that question.

Have always been intrigued but never tried it myself.

[Sunny-side-up]

This as a side note connection to your important OP
It has reminded me of Santos bonacci who adds much knowledge relating to the workings of our body, mind and soul and religious texts.

Santos Bonacci gave/has a great vid/lecture.
He call the minerals 'Salts', he goes on to show how we all start off with a deficiency at birth, due to our position in the years cycle (Astrology) and how we should make note and address it with our children etc.
Can't put my memory on the particular vid name atmo though :(

Here is a simplified vid of his work, the true meaning of Ascension (The Christ within), which all takes place within each of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Gn-_7z82k

If you haven't read/watched any of this mans works, I fully recomend

[Octavusprime]

From my research Magnesium Citrate is said to be the most bio-available form for oral ingestion. Epson salt baths are an easy and relaxing way to get magnesium topically.

I've been researching Sensory Deprivation Tanks recently and plan on "Floating" soon.

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Basically you float in a tank full of epson salt water. The epson salt level is so high that you literally float on top of the water. The water and air temperature are dialed in to match the average skin temperature. The tank itself is built in a way to prevent all light and sound from entering. You are left floating with your own thoughts. The only sounds are your own breath and heart beat and the only visions are those that you make in your mind. Many report vivid colors and lights during the float. Almost everyone leaves the float feeling extremely relaxed. People with depression and anxiety say this has improved their sense of wellbeing.

I've mimic'd this a bit with an epson salt bath, with all the lights off and some ear plugs. Very relaxing and medative. Unfortunately I couldn't completely remove all the sounds of the city nor the lights. Also my bathtub isn't big enough to float without touching anything.

I found a few float centers in my city they run about $60-80 per hour but there is a groupon right now that drops it to $40 that I plan on buying soon.

[Mike]

Okay ive just started the mag threonate. 3rd day in.

Gave me a dull headache at first....but thats true of almost any new supplement I take, especially ones for brain health.

Ive settled in now and I dont notice any massive difference. I do feel a bit more relaxed and my muscle spasms seem to have dissipated some. I have a month supply so we'll see.

At 3 pills a day its a litte bit of a nuisance. Plus at around $30 its pricey for a mag supplement. But like I said, I just started. I.ll provide an update after the month is up

[onawah]

Dr. Mercola's article and talk on magnesium threonate:
http://products.mercola.com/magnesium-supplement/
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and some useful info here: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/12/28/magnesium-atp.aspx

Besides magnesium citrate, there are a variety of other magnesium supplements on the market. I personally prefer magnesium threonate, as it seems to penetrate cell membranes, including your mitochondria, which results in higher energy levels.

It also penetrates your blood-brain barrier and may help improve memory. The following table summarizes some of the differences between the various forms. Whichever supplement you choose, avoid those containing magnesium stearate, a common but potentially hazardous additive.

Magnesium glycinate is a chelated form of magnesium that tends to provide the highest levels of absorption and bioavailability and is typically considered ideal for those who are trying to correct a deficiency Magnesium oxide is a non-chelated type of magnesium, bound to an organic acid or a fatty acid. Contains 60 percent magnesium, and has stool softening properties
Magnesium chloride / Magnesium lactatecontains only 12 percent magnesium, but has better absorption than others, such as magnesium oxide, which contains five times more magnesium Magnesium sulfate / Magnesium hydroxide (milk of magnesia) are typically used as a laxative. Be aware that it's easy to overdose on these, so ONLY take as directed
Magnesium carbonate, which has antacid properties, contains 45 percent magnesium Magnesium taurate contains a combination of magnesium and taurine, an amino acid. Together, they tend to provide a calming effect on your body and mind
Magnesium citrate is magnesium with citric acid, which has laxative properties

Magnesium threonate is a newer, emerging type of magnesium supplement that appears promising, primarily due to its superior ability to penetrate the mitochondrial membrane, and may be the best magnesium supplement on the market
Other Important Nutrients That Work in Tandem with Magnesium
One of the major benefits of getting your nutrients from a varied whole food diet is that you're less likely to end up with unbalanced nutrient ratios. When it comes to magnesium, calcium, vitamin D, and K2 also come into play. These four nutrients work together synergistically, with one supporting the other. All of them are needed in order for each individual nutrient to perform properly.

An appropriate magnesium to calcium ratio is thought to be 1:1. Excessive amounts of calcium without the counterbalance of magnesium can lead to heart attacks, strokes, and sudden death. If you're calcium deficient, your best bet is to increase consumption of foods high in calcium before opting for a supplement. This is because many high calcium foods also contain naturally high amounts of vitamin K2.
Nature cleverly gives us these two nutrients in combination, so they work optimally. Good sources of calcium include nuts, seeds, and dairy, especially cheeses and vegetables, although veggies aren't high in K2. One exception is fermented vegetables where a starter culture specifically designed to produce ample amounts of K2 was used.

Homemade bone broth is another excellent source. Simply simmer leftover bones over low heat for an entire day to extract the calcium from the bones. You can use this broth for soups, stews, or drink it straight.

For vitamin D, you want to be in the optimal range of 50 to 70 ng/ml. Sensible sun exposure is the ideal way to optimize your levels, but a tanning bed and/or vitamin D3 supplement (and to a lesser degree certain foods) can also be used during winter months when you're unlikely to produce enough vitamin D from sun exposure.
The optimal amounts of vitamin K2 are still under investigation, but it seems likely that 180 to 200 micrograms (mcg) of vitamin K2 might be enough to activate your body's K2-dependent proteins to shuttle calcium to the proper areas.
Boost Magnesium to Optimize Your Health and Energy Levels
The evidence is clear: if you want to optimize your mitochondrial function, metabolism, and reduce your risk for type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease, one of the things you need to do is consume adequate magnesium. Magnesium also plays a role in your body's detoxification processes and therefore is important for helping to prevent damage from environmental chemicals, heavy metals, and other toxins.

Even glutathione, your body's most powerful antioxidant that has even been called "the master antioxidant," requires magnesium for its synthesis. Your need for magnesium can be magnified by factors such as age, stress, lack of sleep, alcohol consumption, insulin resistance and diabetes, prescription drug use, an unbalanced gut microbiome, poor kidney function, and more.

Among the most common symptoms that your body is lacking in magnesium are "Charlie horses" (the muscle spasm that occurs when you stretch your legs), muscle or coronary spasms, fatigue, nausea, and headaches or migraines.

These are all warning signs indicating you probably need to boost your magnesium intake, either through your diet or through a magnesium supplement. For more details, please see Dr. Dean's blog post, "Gauging Magnesium Deficiency Symptoms."14

While it's best to get your magnesium from your diet, most foods are deficient in magnesium and other minerals due to being grown in mineral-depleted soils. Fertilizers like glyphosate also act as chelators, effectively blocking the uptake and utilization of minerals.

As a result, I believe it would be prudent for most people to consider a magnesium supplement. This is my personal strategy even though I have access to organic foods.

Another way to improve your magnesium status is to take regular Epsom salt baths or foot baths. Epsom salt is a magnesium sulfate that can absorb into your body through your skin. Magnesium oil can also be used for topical application and absorption.

[onawah]

More recommendations for epsom salt baths here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97328-Detoxing-and-Prevention-for-Optimum-Health&p=1151159&viewfull=1#post1151159