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Bob
23rd March 2017, 21:48
It went mainstream medical in fact. Guess what it was - VITAMIN C intravenously..

Nobody is going to make fantastic amounts of money with some super fancy new "drug" with this treatment cure.

The issue with sepsis is from an infection, the whole body gets inflamed, and organs start shutting down left and right. Soon death is the only outcome.. HOWEVER, one doctor decided to try what he had heard in alternative medicine, the use of massive intravenous doses of vitamin C.


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This is the article:

published online by the journal, Chest — with caution. (Chest was uncertain how it would be received obviously, a non mainstream "no profit" substance being used to affect a "treatment/cure" with an otherwise hopeless situation..)

"The study, from Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk, Va., reported some remarkable success in treating patients who were at high risk of sudden death.

The story began in January, 2015, when Dr. Paul Marik was running the intensive care unit at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital. A 48-year-old woman came in with a severe case of sepsis — inflammation frequently triggered by an overwhelming infection.

"Her kidneys weren't working. Her lungs weren't working. She was going to die," Marik said. "In a situation like this, you start thinking out of the box."

Marik had recently read a study by researchers at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond. Dr. Berry Fowler and his colleagues had shown some moderate success in treating people who had sepsis with intravenous vitamin C.

Marik decided to give it a try. He added in a low dose of corticosteroids, which are sometimes used to treat sepsis, along with a bit of another vitamin, thiamine. His desperately ill patient got an infusion of this mixture.

"I was expecting the next morning when I came to work she would be dead," Marik said."But when I walked in the next morning, I got the shock of my life."

The patient was well on the road to recovery.

Marik tried this treatment with the next two sepsis patients he encountered, and was similarly surprised. So he started treating his sepsis patients regularly with the vitamin and steroid infusion.

After he'd treated 50 patients, he decided to write up his results. As he described it in Chest, only four of those 47 patients died in the hospital — and all the deaths were from their underlying diseases, not from sepsis. For comparison, he looked back at 47 patients the hospital had treated before he tried the vitamin C infusion and found that 19 had died in the hospital.

This is not the standard way to evaluate a potential new treatment. Ordinarily, the potential treatment would be tested head to head with a placebo or standard treatment, and neither the doctors nor the patients would know who in the study was getting the new therapy.

But the results were so stunning, Marik decided that from that point on he would treat all his sepsis patients with the vitamin C infusion. So far, he's treated about 150 patients, and only one has died of sepsis, he said.

That's a phenomenal claim, considering that of the million Americans a year who get sepsis, about 300,000 die.

"So that's the equivalent of three jumbo jets crashing every single day," Marik said.

An effective treatment for sepsis would be a really big deal.

"If it turns out in further studies that this is true, and we can validate it, then this will be an unbelievably huge deal," said Dr. Craig Coopersmith, a surgery professor at Emory University School of Medicine. "But right now we should treat it as a preliminary deal that needs to be validated."

Coopersmith, a top sepsis researcher, is cautious for a reason. There have been hundreds of exciting results from sepsis studies that failed in follow-up research.

A result "can look really exciting when you do it on a group in one hospital with one set of clinicians, and then when you try to validate with a larger group in multiple centers — thus far we've been unsuccessful with anything," Coopersmith said.

Marik may face extra skepticism because the main ingredient is vitamin C, which has attracted a great deal of skepticism over the years. Fowler at VCU was concerned about that when he wanted to launch a study about the role of vitamin C in sepsis.

"Honestly, when we submitted the grant to the NIH, I was fully expecting them to say 'vitamin C? Really?' " Fowler tells Shots.

But he'd made the case that vitamin C wasn't simply a once-trendy antioxidant. When the vitamin is injected, as opposed to taken orally, it can influence the immune system's response to inflammation, he told Shots.

The NIH gave him a $3.2 million grant to run a carefully controlled study of vitamin C to treat sepsis, with all the usual conditions: It includes placebos; the scientists don't know who's getting the active drug; and it's being conducted at several universities.

That study could wrap up later this year. Fowler says some patients in the trial will probably have been given corticosteroids, as Marik's patients were, but that's not a formal part of the study.

Coopersmith said the extraordinary results reported from Norfolk clearly need that kind of careful scrutiny. Marik said he agrees, though he's obviously not waiting for those results to emerge.

Taxpayers and drug companies have spent billions of dollars searching for an effective treatment for sepsis. Drug companies could reap billions in profits if they can develop a successful treatment for this common and often fatal disease.

But profit is not the motive here, Marik says. The ingredients cost about as much as a single dose of antibiotics. "

reference - http://pilotonline.com/news/local/health/a-norfolk-doctor-found-a-treatment-for-sepsis-now-he/article_7a3063e5-24cf-56c1-b25c-142731604196.html


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Bob
23rd March 2017, 22:08
Dr. Paul Mark - (Center in Image Below)


http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/pilotonline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/83/b836a224-1d11-514e-9037-5c7882025a8f/57cf690a3cd9c.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C902

The treatment consisted of Vitamin C, plus hydrocortisone, plus the Vitamin Thiamin, intravenously.


Valerie Hobbs, 53, was in the throes of sepsis – an infection coursing through her veins that was causing her blood pressure to tank, her organs to fail and her breathing to flag.

“When you have a person that young who’s going to die, you start thinking, ‘What else can we pull out of the bag?’ ” said Dr. Paul Marik, who was on duty that day in the intensive care unit of Sentara Norfolk General Hospital.

In this case, he reached for Vitamin C.

Marik, chief of pulmonary and critical care at Eastern Virginia Medical School, had recently read medical journal articles involving the vitamin, and decided to order IV infusions of it, along with hydrocortisone, a steroid, to reduce inflammation.

Then, he went home.

The next morning, Hobbs had improved so much she was removed from four different medications used to boost her blood pressure. Her kidney function was better. Her breathing eased.

Three days later, she left the ICU.

That was in January 2016. Today, Hobbs is back at her home in Norfolk.

“At first we thought it was a coincidence, that maybe the stars aligned just right and she got lucky,” Marik said.

Ten days later, another patient, a paraplegic, arrived in the ICU with sepsis, and Marik prescribed the same thing. That patient improved as well.

A third patient, a man so sick with pneumonia he was on a ventilator, also received the treatment. The results were the same.

Marik’s response: “What just happened?”

He suggested changing the protocol for patients who arrived with sepsis.

astridmari
24th March 2017, 12:23
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conk
24th March 2017, 16:36
Likely you'll have to beg, cajole, even bribe your doctor to administer a C IV. Recently heard that some C concoctions were removed from the approved list. Our naturopath had to stop providing IV treatments for a while, but has since regained approval from the state board. They are constantly poking into his business, fining him, and otherwise trying to hinder his business and practices.

Are some C IVs better than others? Are they mostly ascorbic acid, which is not really vitamin C, but just the antioxidant (as I remember) that keeps the whole C complex intact?

Many have seen the benefits of treating pathogens with Master Mineral Supplement (MMS). It seems it also may aid in the fight against Sepsis.

Bob
24th March 2017, 17:04
It seems to me giving Dr. Marik a phone call, or email requesting a secondary opinion, or "consultation" on a particular "issue" might be a useful option.. Possibly even arranging "program" participation.. He is associated with organizations around the world (see below).

This doctor's background includes nutritional therapy and science. For him to say use the vitamin C, plus hydrocortisone, plus thiamine in IV therapy for critical emergencies it seems to me shows he knows his stuff, and his opinion would carry weight with other practitioners..

He is listed on this page: https://www.evms.edu/education/centers_institutes_departments/internal_medicine/faculty_staff/pulmonary__critical_care_faculty/name_11909_en.html

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/pulmonary__critical_care/Marik_Paul_headshot-145x117.jpg

Focus Areas:
Critical Care Medicine is his primary specialty

Contact Info:
757.446.8920

Affiliation(s):
1987- College of Medicine of South Africa.
1989- South African Society of Critical Care.
1993- Society Of Critical Care Medicine.
1994- College of Medicine and Surgery of Canada.
1994- Massachusetts Medical Society.
1997- American Thoracic Society
1997- American Heart Association: Council on Cardiopulmonary and Critical Care
1998- American College of Chest Physicians
2004- American College of Physicians

Bio:
Dr Marik received his medical degree from the University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, South Africa.

He was an ICU attending at Baragwanath Hospital, in Soweto, South Africa.

During this time he obtained a Master of Medicine Degree, Bachelor of Science Degree in Pharmacology, Diploma in Anesthesia as well as a Diploma in Tropical Medicine and Hygiene.

Dr Marik did a Critical Care Fellowship in London, Ontario, Canada, during which time he was admitted as a Fellow to the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeon of Canada.

Dr Marik has worked in various teaching hospitals in the US since 1992. He is board certified in Internal Medicine, Critical Care Medicine, Neurocritical Care and Nutrition Science.

Dr Marik is currently Professor of Medicine and Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk, Virginia.

Dr Marik has written over 400 peer reviewed journal articles, 50 book chapters and authored four critical care books.


Likely you'll have to beg, cajole, even bribe your doctor to administer a C IV. Recently heard that some C concoctions were removed from the approved list. Our naturopath had to stop providing IV treatments for a while, but has since regained approval from the state board. They are constantly poking into his business, fining him, and otherwise trying to hinder his business and practices.

Are some C IVs better than others? Are they mostly ascorbic acid, which is not really vitamin C, but just the antioxidant (as I remember) that keeps the whole C complex intact?

Many have seen the benefits of treating pathogens with Master Mineral Supplement (MMS). It seems it also may aid in the fight against Sepsis.

Bob
24th March 2017, 17:36
More on Sepsis


http://www.evms.edu/uploads/magazine/9-4/images/sepsis-750x647.gif

The medical organization mentioned, "More and more hospitals and ICU's are trying the therapy".

Mainstream accepting vitamin C intravenously with hydrocortisone and thiamine is an amazing switch from the "big pharma" older orthodox therapies.

Bob
3rd November 2018, 16:08
:bump2:

A healing of "sepsis"

This thread started 23 March 2017

Use of vitamin C plus corticosteroids plus a B vitamin thiamine..

Cross referencing my thread - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98317-Vitamin-C-and-DoxyCycline-for-stopping-Cancer-Tumors&p=1257871&viewfull=1#post1257871

There is mention in that thread about what could be evoking tumor formation.. Potentially a "leaky gut" or leaking capillaries is due to (similar situations happen in a sepsis condition where the capillaries start leaking) BT toxins (from Monsanto GMO food exposure) in the bloodstream..

The potential treatment then still would be vitamin C plus the appropriate cortico-steroid plus thiamine plus doxycycline.

Lyme disease from tick bites are treated using doxycycline anti-biotic, and guess what, leaky capillaries are one of the symptoms...

A treatment of doxycycline for leaky capillaries/tumors/sepsis (and treating Lyme disease), with the addition of a proper corticosteroid, plus thiamine and vitamin C most certainly would be touching the keys needed to deal with those situations..

LiquidMind
4th November 2018, 11:33
Very cool. The same concept and remedy was used by Norman Cousins - and so many others. Just need to see the before and after - and how much after. Is it a cure or a turnaround and what are the mechanisms (chemistry) by which the cure was had?

Bob
6th November 2018, 12:44
Norman Cousins used what he called distraction and laughter - a way escape from dwelling on his condition. Most certainly a mind body feedback exists, and the Chinese have for thousands of years understood acupuncture to trigger and suppress nerve signals and to modify body and mind function with the drugs/chemicals latent in herbs. Modern medicine has looked at what are the substances and chemicals, and what do the substances and chemicals activate or suppress..

Put it in perspective, one can come up with a crutch and a mental program to stop stressing out a particular organ, to give it time to "rest". Stimulating something usually creates some type of body healing to deal with the localized stress. A tumor for instance can appear to cover up or encyst a foreign protein, or a foreign "toxic" substance to make it "hide" from the body.

However there are practices which focus on GETTING IN TOUCH and then when one is in-touch, one can address the why of the problem. SEE it then DEAL WITH IT. (conversely, hide from it and hope it will go away, or try the "laugh it away" method of Cousins).

In the Cousins case by changing viewpoint from dwelling on the symptoms, to adding a massive anti-oxidant, and pH altering one changed the chemistry of the body adequately for repair mechanisms to kick in. Diminishing the cortisol stress hormone levels plays a large role. Stress will evoke protective shields over areas that one is being triggered by. Such as spirochetes or the buggers behind the lyme infection are invading - the body will turn on chemicals to try to mask the invasion site, while trying to remove the invader.. A battle ensues, and damage happens as on any battlefield.

Cured, hardly, but time was bought. Cousins did die of the of the coronary issues. Norman Cousins died of heart failure on November 30, 1990.

In the articles mentioned at the outset of the thread, the changes that are induced by vitamin C, the stress reaction control (the cortico-steroid) and the chemical mechanism to treat any underlying infections helps to prolong survival. Our DNA has repair mechanisms within to deal with foreign invaders or that which tries to alter the DNA instructional code from which our bodies are grown.

So many therapies work on buying some time, using numerous techniques. Buy the time and hope that the DNA's repair mechanisms will kick in. See it exactly and one can evoke stimulation of those repair mechanisms, and use the proper methods to "buy time".

WHY use thiamine? According to the UMM (https://www.livescience.com/51721-vitamin-b1-thiamine.html), thiamine is sometimes called an "anti-stress" vitamin. Research has found that B1 may strengthen the immune system and improve the body's ability to control mood and physiological impairments due to stress.

As to the corticosteroid - low-dose naltrexone (LDN) as a novel anti-inflammatory treatment for chronic pain see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3962576/