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Spellbound
1st April 2017, 04:33
I first became aware of David Icke via the Camelot interview and then various You Tube clips thereafter...and even the clip with Bill Maher in Religulous. There are some things I like about Icke and believe he is on to something in regards to how the world works, the depths of pedophilia, and who really runs things. However, although I don't really have much use for the Royal family, I don't think they are reptilian. I find that he sometimes puts himself in situations for which he is going to be ridiculed by people in the MSM...and it makes me angry at the people throwing stones but also I have anger for David for putting himself into these situations to begin with.
There are some who think Icke is only in it for the money, but I don't see that at all. From what I've seen, he lives a modest lifestyle and is not extravagant in any way. I truly believe that he believes what he's saying.
What is Avalon's overall opinion on David Icke??
Dave - Toronto
ponda
1st April 2017, 05:15
I think that he ties in the various hidden and open control systems and ongoing agendas in an easy to understand way. He puts a lot of the jigsaw pieces together and can save people a lot of time researching some topics etc. You still have to keep an open mind and come to your own conclusions and do your own research work. I think that the reptilian info whilst possibly true can act as a gate to some people and as a sort of protection to him from the mainstream as they often ridicule him for it. He probably has the broadest knowledge of fringe info of anyone out there imho.
cheers
Bill Ryan
1st April 2017, 05:45
Lives his life in 24/7 constant physical pain (arthritis that's crippled his hands) — and never, ever, ever, complains.
Praxis
1st April 2017, 06:01
Maybe, as a safety mechanism he says wildly outlandish things, the royals are shape shifting reptiles, as a form of protection. Although I do think they exist, Nicki Minaj for instance and her eyes in a video about Lil Wayne sobriety and being arrested clearly shift and it is not an artifact of film, maybe the royals arent, even if they are inbred. This may not be the case at all, but it is something I think about. And I am also not saying anything bad about him or his claims. I think he is a great man who has done a lot of work for humanity.
Any amount of money he has is not worth what happened to him in the public sphere in terms of ridicule and mocking. Can you imagine the feeling of the world thinking you are crazy?
Baby Steps
1st April 2017, 08:18
If his information is like a pyramid, with the base being the facts that are verifiable, and getting more contentious, 'out there' and un documented as one goes up, one has to acknowledge that events are revealing more of the edifice to be solid.
So many predictions have come to pass.
At the top we have the idea of a hybrid reptilian elite. There are so many historical and biblical links, it should not be discounted. We have all heard bits and pieces of rumours in our own lives.
If you assume that there are likely to be civilisations that have been technological for billions of years out there in the universe , I see it as not much of a stretch to speculate that baby races like us have hidden managers or elites. We are primitive, we probably attract the ones that enjoy our primitive brutality
Akeron
1st April 2017, 09:13
I have huge respect for people putting themselves out there with important information against all onslaughts of the mainstream media and god knows who else. Anyone can make mistakes... we can all get some details wrong, maybe even some bigger, more abstract structures if they are very intangible or hidden. Overall I believe he did and does some great work though.
OopsWrongPlanet?
1st April 2017, 09:34
David Icke stuck his neck out before pretty much anyone else in the media age in the UK, and he has paid a heavy price for this. He made it easier for a truth-seeking community to emerge and grow with some confidence. Many of us have very much to be grateful for to him, in my opinion.
Sometimes David looks to me like he has quite a furrowed brow, and he could do with losing a pound or two, so I hope and pray that he will look after his own health and well-being, benefitting himself from what he once heard:-
"Infinite Love is the only truth. Everything else is illusion."
Surely this is ultimately much bigger and more important than all the intrigues which appear to be happening in and around our planet... not that we should then ignore them.
Thank you David x x
M
Violet3
1st April 2017, 09:35
yep i think he's good guy. Absolutely tireless energy it seems, waking people up for years on end now. I saw him in Perth when he was here on his world tour- spoke for almost 10 hours, well researched and cogent arguments. Astonishing man of the people.
heather6thsense
1st April 2017, 11:42
I saw David Icke in Brisbane less than 12 months ago. He is remarkable. I felt deeply honoured to be able to support him in some way and I just know that what he is saying is truthful. He enabled me to waken up to what was really going on in this world of illusion.
Andre
1st April 2017, 12:04
David is the genuine article. He knows more about humanity's reptilian past than just about anyone. A tireless crusader for Truth.
ghostrider
1st April 2017, 12:14
He speaks his truth, with the world against him, and always keeps plowing forward ... you have to respect that ...
I have the ultimate respect for him, his work and his integrity. I am blown away with his skills as a researcher. Although, I don't think there is a single human out there that is 100% correct about everything, I believe he is sincere about everything he tells us. I have so much gratitude for what he has shared with us.
Noelle
1st April 2017, 12:37
A trailblazer, for sure! He can be somewhat gruff, but I believe his style is important for waking up certain kinds of people (i.e., men [not all men]).
Arianda
1st April 2017, 13:17
Icke was one of the first lecturers I happened across when I began research into the alternative. He is a gifted speaker and I resonate with a lot of his messages.
Iloveyou
1st April 2017, 14:10
As someone who has not gone through tens of thousands document pages nor has any noteworthy psychic abilities I have to rely on my Pluto-Mercury conjunction, on my deep-inner body knowledge, intuition and a kind of fleeting, vague memories that seem permanently to be drifting towards my horizon of consciousness - and I've come to the conclusion that the most apparently ridiculous, outlandish things (that make even very open-minded people leave the discussion) are most likely true. The harder to wrap one's head around it, the more likely that it's real.
I'm convinced that David Icke speaks the truth and provides accurate information. Maybe he's not allowed to tell everything he's found out. There must be limitations how far he can go. So by allowing him to expose the Royals as reptilian entities, the wannabe-overlords maybe have accomplished two goals at one blow: They make him say things that are so 'obviously ridiculous' that his person and the rest of his research is seen as unreliable, too. At the same time they get the truth out in the open (and nobody believes it). "We've told them but they did not listen." Our own fault, unfortunately.
If only 10 % of the information that circulates in the alternative media is correct, that's already too much. It's enough to make one's hair stand on end and to go up the wall . .
enigma3
1st April 2017, 14:51
I have great respect for anyone who has such strong conscience of his convictions in the face of constant blather. His breadth of knowledge reminds me of Graham Hancock. Fascinating man.
And let's not forget that Princess Diana called the Queen and Prince Philip reptiles.
angelfire
1st April 2017, 15:14
I first heard David talk many years ago in Scotland and I remember so clearly knowing that I had been waiting all my life to hear someone encourage people to not only wake up to their true essence but to also wake up to what was really happening in the world.
I subsequently had David to stay in my flat during a second tour because I felt it was so important to support the work he was doing. He walked in and promptly asked where the nearest off licence was so that he could buy some beers to share. I loved him for that!
I LIKE ICKE. :sun:
David started back in the 1990's at the embryonic stages of alternate media / truth movement and against mockery and resistance he persisted staying true to his cause and being a fearless trail blazer.
I would personally class David Icke up there with the likes of Erich Von Daniken, Alex Jones and Project Camelot in terms of importance to the truth movement.
Sunny-side-up
1st April 2017, 15:56
Universe bless you David icke.
He started in a much different world to the one we see, watch today.
When he began he was a crack-pot in a small-simple-mind-controlled-world, now because of him, we are in a vast-complicated-not-so-easily-mind-controlled-world, he has let the mind back in to the world.
Thank you David :sun:
BMJ, Yes
I would class David Icke up there with the likes of Erich Von Daniken in terms of importance to the truth movement.
AutumnW
1st April 2017, 16:05
I don't agree with him sometimes but think he is sincere.
Watching from Cyprus
1st April 2017, 18:02
David is amazing... following him on a Daily basis through about 10 years, and must say that he is the most accurate of all a describing what is in store for us and to look through the vale. There is no doubt that he has an invisible guide, as is obvious when he is interviewed and asked a new questions. He pauses only for short while like listening to his guide and then he answers.
He is the Real deal, and dont let yourselves get confused about the reptilians, as it takes years to understand and see what these entities are. Impossible to describe for immediate understanding.
happyuk
1st April 2017, 20:23
Regardless of what people think of the reptilian stuff, I think he bang on the money when it comes to the whole financial system. It is backed up by nothing and has been for some time. This quote from the "Revelations of an elite family insider" particularly resonates with me:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005
"Icke has a core of truth he is trying to pass.What he does not realise is that this actually works against him. The reptilian part was fed him by the ones who work for the bloodlines. In a period of 7, 8 months he was bombarded with "victims" who witnessed shape-shifting,satanic rituals, etc. in such a way he could not refuse to not believe it.Sometimes the "witnesses" were lead to him a few times a day, depending on his location. Others like Icke (and there are more than you think) have been fed similar stories"
lunaflare
1st April 2017, 21:30
Like many posts, I too have greatly benefited from David's research and the generous way in which he gives of his time (conferences/lectures).
I find his messages uplifting and spiritually nourishing.
"Infinite love is the only truth; everything else is illusion!"
This is liberating.
Ultimately, we are responsible for our thoughts, our choices and our reality....
norman
1st April 2017, 21:37
I think David Icke is a warrior and has more than most have when it comes to staying on track regardless of how much counter attacking is put into the field.
I sometimes get frustrated with what he says about frequencies though. He's worn that thing about visible light frequency to death. It never has been very convincing. I don't doubt what he means to say is right but using that analogy is surprisingly sloppy for David. I wish he'd have another think about that and come up with a better way of saying it.
I've never had my own TV so I was completely unaware of his earlier career or the Terry Wogan incident. He first came to my attention in the mid 90s. I know a few Isle of Wighters who have known him and his family for decades and know he's a genuine good bloke.
If the OP is asking if Icke is anything other than the real deal, I say absolutely not. He's the real deal, warts and all.
Helene West
2nd April 2017, 04:37
Some call him the Dot-Connector and indeed when it comes to unifying all the vast info we're exposed to in the world of alternative data, no one is better. The way he synthesizes what is happening in our world and what is going to happen is almost delphic-oracle like.
Then - Then, like the OP states, he drops the R bomb. So just as I perceive a sort of genius and he throws me off - he mocks himself and offers himself up for mocking with this now buzz phrase - The Reptilians.... So if you have any desire to introduce him/his work to a family member, friend, etc., it won't work because of this. Even if you believed that there were ET's that looked like reptiles running Earth wouldn't you be cautious of how you described this if you wanted to be believed or heard? He's too smart to not know this...
This aspect of him is so puzzling to me it has caused me to think more about the notion of 'controlled opposition'. We think we are so unique who turn to alternative media, so different from john and jane doe that come home from work and plop down to eat dinner in front of CNN or Fox and go on to their reality shows for the evening. But maybe we are just being given different style controllers, tailored just for us.
Those with the most money in the world must also have the best social scientists at their disposal and have every group's profile down pat. They keep the alt crowd in ALT-land just by having a david icke throw in his reptiles with all his good info - JUST SO WE CAN'T SHARE IT WITH OTHERS NOT IN OUR GROUP. We have to stay in alt land relating just to alt people because our genius guy has to throw in this ridiculous sounding tidbit guaranteed to turn most people off.
Lastly and probably just a 'coincidence' in a vid just posted in one of the political threads he relates that according to famous transhumanist, Ray Kurzweil, human consciousness will be uploaded to the cloud by 2030.
On a nearby post (I think even the same thread) is a vid with Neil Howe, the 4th Turning guy, who says we will be in the 4th turning until 2030. Hmmm
Mike
2nd April 2017, 05:29
great man. bad haircut.
Omni
2nd April 2017, 05:43
I don't agree with him sometimes but think he is sincere.
This reflects my opinion too.
sandy
2nd April 2017, 06:36
Authentic, with tenacity and integrity seldom seen in the world today. High Respect !!
GloriaP
2nd April 2017, 09:48
Icke seems to be a genuine, warm and very brave person. He has felt the painful stripping away of ego that most of us hide from, or avoid at all costs. I mean by that, being totally honest in public, knowing that you will face ridicule. I remember seeing him on the Wogan show on BBC television all those years ago. I didn't know his work at the time, yet I knew that he was being genuine and honest, even though his interpretation may have been a little distorted at the time (which he also acknowledges now). He had undergone a massive spiritual awakening and was trying to make sense of it. What was very clear to me that day, watching the Wogan show, was how disgracefully he was treated by Wogan and how easily led the public are and unable to think for themselves, by their submission to Wogan's mocking of Icke. Icke has been proven correct about a number of things. He may not be correct about everything he says, but time will tell. I still struggle with the extent of the reptilian infiltration but as I say, time will tell. I remain open to evidence.
Cardillac
2nd April 2017, 18:41
I don't consider myself to be a psychic (although I've had some come-true premonitions) but I've had just so many paranormal experiences in my life starting in my early childhood that I realized a long time ago there are other dimensions out there that we cannot normally see but appear to us occaisionally (well at least in my life);
my world awakening after my complete bewilderment re: 9/11 was Icke's "The Biggest Secret" (the 1st book of his I read); I have no idea whatsoever about this reptilian bit but if one researches early Judaism/Christianity/Islam they all agree on an evil interdimentional force corrupting mankind known as either Archons/Golems/Jinns-
enough for now-
Larry
Chester
2nd April 2017, 22:13
The following happened to me in early 2003. My "woo-woo" mentor had just returned to her home (we lived on the island Curacao at this time)... had just returned home from a trip she took to the UK. While there she happened to have been walking along a path one day where a hooded being came walking toward her. That being stopped in front of her and handed her a book. She returned home soon after with that book and called me. She asked me to come to her house. She told me the story of what she had experienced in being handed the book by this hooded being. She then told me that she felt that the book was meant for me. She gave me the book.
That book was -
"The Biggest Secret" (https://www.amazon.com/Biggest-Secret-Change-Updated-Second/dp/0952614766)
My life has never been the same since.
(Thank you, David Icke.)
bettye198
2nd April 2017, 22:41
Just like Edgar Cayce who introduced the ideology of reincarnation, David Icke introduced many of us to the world beneath, the covert corrupting reptilian nasty world that opened our eyes and answered at least for me the questions I have long wondered about. He did the research, put his heart and soul on the line in harms way to awaken the world. We have read his books so compelling. He is a hero. I will send healing thoughts to his crippling body.
Justplain
3rd April 2017, 02:57
I like hearing some of Mr. Icke's analyses of current events. For instance, he was one of the first to claim that paedophelia was rampant at the bbc. He gave very perceptive criticism of michelle obama at her job sidetracking blacks going to the hospital she worked at. He also gave a very intriguing description of the backers for isil. His remarks on brexit were right on too. So some of his real world analysis is founded upon Richard Dolan type research, which is great.
I cannot say that i like his more outlandish assertions cuz he does not attempt to back it up with facts like he does other of his work. The reptilian claims are like that. I saw a 'conspiracy theory' episode where jesse ventura confronted him about proving his reptillian claims and he offered nothing of substance. At the time, alex jones called him 'the turd in the alt truth punch bowl'.
Unfortunately, some of these outlandish, unprovable claims have tarnished his other more substantive work, in my eyes anyway. I tend to lump him in now with the corey goodes and captain k's of the alt truth movement. No offense to those who like him, but he's not my cup of tea.
Iloveyou
3rd April 2017, 07:17
If one takes the research of James Bartley and his collegues seriously, then David Icke is not so far off. Reptilian entities do control and overtake, "overshadow" humans (human hosts). That process and the beings are visible to psychic people. "Long before David Icke arrived at the scene, shapeshifting had been described by abductees . . . the concept of shapeshift is well established in the abduction literature . . ." (Bartley). Im not so familiar with that but for now I'm ready to follow his work.
To claim that - for example - the Royals ARE REPTILIAN is obviously something different than to say that they are overshadowed, possessed, controlled. But what exactly (if at all, actually) is the difference, where can the line be drawn. There is much space for (mis-) interpretations, on purpose or not. May be that the (relatively open and unsystematic way*) he presented the information saved his life, while - for example - Dr. Karla Turner is dead. Which does not take away from his core message.
(*please correct me if I'm wrong here. It's a long time that I've read the book, but I'll look it up again as soon as possible.)
great man. bad haircut.
Lol. But not so bad as 'certain' others . . :)
Atlas
3rd April 2017, 08:19
David Icke is a hero.
DAVID ICKE - POLICE have NO POWER, the UNIFORM has the POWER. Message to those who SERVE the ELITE
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Sérénité
3rd April 2017, 14:09
I've always liked David Icke, even as a kid before he went rogue against MSM :bigsmile:
He has very genuine and sincere eyes, is passionate about his causes and he explains things in basic terms ...I like that! He comes across as a very humble and kind person and certainly isn't in it for the money or the fame at all.
He had an excellent long term career in the public eye and put that all at jeopardy to speak the truth. That alone made me never really question him as a kid and certainly not now after a lot of his risky statements have come to pass over the years.
The Reptilian Royal Family thing didn't do him any favours in gaining much trust I guess, but as he says himself, the world is nothing like we think...I don't think they are reptilian as in when they retire to their chambers of an evening they spin round and suddenly become komodo dragons. But I think they, along with other certain families of the world have souls, blood and DNA that's not quite the same as your average man.
He's one of very few who I take much notice of when it comes to speaking the truth without having an ulterior motive.
Dreamer148
3rd April 2017, 16:07
He has 2 very admirable qualities, courage and honesty. How many of us with radical opinions could come out publicly and say what you really think?
I like his style.
Gotta wonder about the Queen being a reptilian. Although her name is Liz - LOL!
sheme
3rd April 2017, 17:17
David Icke = Brave bloke who believes every thing he says, I think I must keep an open mind. I am sure some one/thing must use him from time to time.
seehas
3rd April 2017, 18:13
david icke is one of the bravest incarneted beeings here right now, his work for humanity made a big impact reaching the critical mass... he woke up so so so so...many
one day he will get the honor he deserves
btw, without david icke i wouldnt even be on this forum his ProjectCamelot interview made my way
Thanks David ! :)
Ernie Nemeth
3rd April 2017, 20:26
I can hardly wait for his all day show here in Toronto this summer.
He is top ten in my books...
Mike
4th April 2017, 06:44
He's a hero and a pioneer and so so much more.
He's one of the maybe 2 or 3 alt figures im "all in" on. Meaning, I dont worship at the altar of Icke or agree with every last detail...but let me put it this way: if it turns out somehow that he's on the CIA payroll or something, id pack it all in and move on from this stuff. Never look back. I would have been totally and completely fooled and would never trust my instincts again. It would be the same if it were rich dolan or bill or george knapp.
There are very few people in this game that im certain on. Icke is one of them
7alon
4th April 2017, 08:26
I believe he is a good guy who is trying to embrace the spiritual experience given to him. He feels he has been selected, like many others, to reach out to those who are willing to listen to the truth and reach a higher state of mind/being/consciousness. He is somebody I respect for throwing away materialistic opportunity to embrace his spiritual path.
amor
5th April 2017, 04:18
I know some extremely close relatives of both the Queen and her husband who are absolutely not reptilians in any way, shape or form. From things seen on the internet, I believe that there is an holographic instrument small enough to be carried on a mobile person, for instance when the Queen frightened Putin with an image of a reptile. Perhaps she has a wicked sense of humor. However, what worries me is the eye witness statement of the mind controlled person who wrote, "The Tranceformation of America." She purportedly witnessed the Queen and Prince Charles turn into reptiles and tear a young man to pieces, eating his parts. This is supposed to have happened in Belgium before a select audience. This is so horrific, that my mind goes to the Computerized Graphic Imagery of a whale splashing in a pool before an audience, all entirely computer generated. I think Diana saw a hollogram while she was drugged before having a procedure done on her. This is all so wild that if true, the Royal Family would have to have been taken over during adulthood either with or without their consent.
David Trd1
5th April 2017, 05:08
A good man, a great human, and the real deal....
Picked up ''tales from the time loop'' back in 2004 and haven`t looked back, he will be remembered long after he has passed on, and for good reason too. He walks his talk.
bettye198
8th April 2017, 19:57
He has 2 very admirable qualities, courage and honesty. How many of us with radical opinions could come out publicly and say what you really think?
I like his style.
Gotta wonder about the Queen being a reptilian. Although her name is Liz - LOL!
If you recall, Diana hated her and called the bunch of them "lizzies".
transiten
8th April 2017, 20:08
I can follow him way down the rabbit hole, but too much reptilian shapeshifting is not my cup of tea.
CelineK
10th April 2017, 10:27
People who generally bash him do not want to be associated to his reptilian theory, which needs more time to be fully confirmed, I regard it as very likely. By the same token many spiritual systems warn us about the archons, annunaki, nephilim, djins, etc, so his theory isn't far fetched at all. It is also ludicrous to think that earth is the only inhabited planet in the entire universe. This alien reality disturbs many.
Meanwhile, he has been 95 percent correct so far (according to my own perspective). He doesnt live in luxury but has a comfortable existence, he deserves it for going against the grain for so many years, and being ridiculed by the mainstream, the strength of his will power. I also do not think that paying 120 dollars for a 10hr presentation is not much. I wished I could have attended one of them.
as much as I think we need to change our attitude toward money, the money he earns is helping spread the word... (and forums like Project Avalon have to be supported too).
I think that he ties in the various hidden and open control systems and ongoing agendas in an easy to understand way. He puts a lot of the jigsaw pieces together and can save people a lot of time researching some topics etc. You still have to keep an open mind and come to your own conclusions and do your own research work. I think that the reptilian info whilst possibly true can act as a gate to some people and as a sort of protection to him from the mainstream as they often ridicule him for it. He probably has the broadest knowledge of fringe info of anyone out there imho.
cheers
Mark (Star Mariner)
10th April 2017, 12:13
I'm 99% on board with David Icke's theories, outlook, and general material. He has been pretty much the most important figure in the alternative media for at least the last 20 years, simply for the number of people that he's reached world-wide.
The 1% caveat that I have is reserved chiefly for his reptilian hypothesis, which I believe he was set up to promote in order to discredit him (in the minds of the average Joe who upon hearing one highly bizarre and 'out there' thing, would automatically discredit all the other completely real things he says) - for which there is significant evidence largely ignored. I made a detailed post on this here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95496-The-Reptilian-Agenda-2017-Exposed&p=1128536&viewfull=1#post1128536)
Mike
10th April 2017, 15:44
I'm 99% on board with David Icke's theories, outlook, and general material. He has been pretty much the most important figure in the alternative media for at least the last 20 years, simply for the number of people that he's reached world-wide.
The 1% caveat that I have is reserved chiefly for his reptilian hypothesis, which I believe he was set up to promote in order to discredit him (in the minds of the average Joe who upon hearing one highly bizarre and 'out there' thing, would automatically discredit all the other completely real things he says) - for which there is significant evidence largely ignored. I made a detailed post on this here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95496-The-Reptilian-Agenda-2017-Exposed&p=1128536&viewfull=1#post1128536)
Ive just read your referenced post regarding reptilians....and I desperately want to believe youre right!
...and you may be. But the testimony of cathy o'brien, james bartley, and all those milabs that have seen reptilian beings in underground bases and so forth gives me pause.
Mark (Star Mariner)
10th April 2017, 15:58
I of course don't know Mike, who can tell for sure? However I quite expect there are some sort of reptilians about, and/or a negative possibly alien possibly extra-dimensional presence influencing things somewhere behind scenes. The experiencers of this may well be right. But the critical point here regarding David Icke, which I put in a later post, and copy here, is: This is more about those [Icke's] claims, ie the Queen being an actual blood-drinking, baby-eating reptilian, whose human facade is just a mask.
I personally have severe doubts about that. I do not like the Royals at all, but I really don't think they are actual cannibalistic alien monsters. And it really is that part of Icke's stuff that turn a lot of potential listeners away. Which *maybe* why Icke was fed this information in the first place. To restrict his followers. If so it worked well. There could still be reptilians, but not exactly in this form, nor to this degree.
DeDukshyn
11th April 2017, 01:18
A mild chiming in here because I was bored ...
I think David Icke has a unique gift to be able to interpret the things going on somewhat symbolically - or perhaps in regards to the background energy behind certain things, but sometimes in this realm it is really hard to define that point where something should be seen as a "literal" symbol or as the background energy behind it. This realm is just "results" - what we experience are mere results, mere reflections of symbols projected back to us from that energy; so in that regard I get David Icke - I can see where he is coming from. Our reality is a bit like seeing each moment as waiting for a painting to be finished, then reacting to that in some way, ad infinitum,rather than being the painting itself. David is doing his best at trying to be that painting.
I do recall reading somewhere once, that as a universal awareness with humans start to reach a tipping point where it spills into our conscious minds, many will believe they are God, or have become enlightened. This describes some of the kookiness of David in his early years - claiming to be the son of God and all that. So Again, I can get it.
I think David has a good heart, and has often turned out to be correct in the face of the harshest doubt and criticism. Perhaps sometimes his delivery could use work ... :)
araucaria
11th April 2017, 07:26
‘The Queen is a reptilian’ equation is in contradiction with David Icke’s favourite analogy of two interfering TV channels, which would be more like what is traditionally called possession. Possession involves an ordinary human affected in some way by a non-human entity, let’s put it like that. Devils are cast out and the human remains. The interfering alternative TV channel in this case would be a royal soap that needs to be switched off. Democracy is about making no one person any more important than any other. The fact that these reptilian devils latch on principally to people of power or influence shows how by cutting off our reliance on such people, the reptilian problem can also be tackled. David Icke turns folk off at this point, because the popular perception is more connected to Elizabeth Windsor as a pleasant enough old lady, although it is not so obvious that she is weighed down by this crown and other family paraphernalia that she and the rest of them were born into. This would be a major reason for abolishing the monarchy, and for abolishing the monarchical aspects of presidential regimes, financial empires and a whole lot more besides – which means that everyone has to pull their weight more, to make a more democratic system function properly. This of course it what is happening, it just takes time.
While the old fifties slogan ‘I like I(c)ke’ still holds, my pet dislike is something else: the problem-reaction-solution mantra. I am on the record as saying ‘If I hear David Icke’s problem-reaction-solution one more time I think I’ll scream’. Funnily enough, here again there seem to be two channels interfering, the other being Hegelian dialectics, which I feel is being badly misunderstood and caricatured – although not necessarily by David Icke himself. See these posts.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1028992&viewfull=1#post1028992
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77434-What-is-Hegelian-Dialectic&p=907002&viewfull=1#post907002
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72808-The-Utter-Necessity-of-Staying-Positive&p=852507&viewfull=1#post852507
ponda
11th April 2017, 14:12
People who generally bash him do not want to be associated to his reptilian theory, which needs more time to be fully confirmed, I regard it as very likely. By the same token many spiritual systems warn us about the archons, annunaki, nephilim, djins, etc, so his theory isn't far fetched at all. It is also ludicrous to think that earth is the only inhabited planet in the entire universe. This alien reality disturbs many.
Meanwhile, he has been 95 percent correct so far (according to my own perspective). He doesnt live in luxury but has a comfortable existence, he deserves it for going against the grain for so many years, and being ridiculed by the mainstream, the strength of his will power. I also do not think that paying 120 dollars for a 10hr presentation is not much. I wished I could have attended one of them.
as much as I think we need to change our attitude toward money, the money he earns is helping spread the word... (and forums like Project Avalon have to be supported too).
I think that he ties in the various hidden and open control systems and ongoing agendas in an easy to understand way. He puts a lot of the jigsaw pieces together and can save people a lot of time researching some topics etc. You still have to keep an open mind and come to your own conclusions and do your own research work. I think that the reptilian info whilst possibly true can act as a gate to some people and as a sort of protection to him from the mainstream as they often ridicule him for it. He probably has the broadest knowledge of fringe info of anyone out there imho.
cheers
Yeah i agree with the higher dimensional reptilian possibilities etc. I think that other entities can take control/influence key elite people and anyone else for periods of time through frequencies or other as yet unknown ways. We know virtually nothing about the bigger higher dimensional picture and how it influences the 3d. I suspect that Mr Icke knows a lot more than he lets on.
cheers
DebJoy
13th April 2017, 20:18
I like his books, his videos. I respect the man hugely. Great researcher, gifted speaker, comes across as very sincere and speaking his truth regardless of backlash. He's very instrumental in laying out the truth in many areas and is one of the top people, in my opinion, in waking people up. If you listen to him carefully, he's presenting very intense even negative information, but ALSO inspiring people to wake up to who they really are - infinite consciousness able to create beautifully!
Foxie Loxie
13th April 2017, 20:28
I find it all very interesting to see how so many different people who were on their own journeys, like Bill & Kerry, that have fed into this Sea of Awakening that is happening!! Totally Awesome! :happy dog:
pyrangello
13th April 2017, 21:09
Much respect to the man for his mission.
thedood73
30th May 2017, 01:07
'The Biggest Secret' woke me up! In 2007 having never owned a computer or really used the internet, I read 'The Biggest Secret' by David Icke. Now I'd always known there was a lot wrong with the world,it didn't make sense the way society worked, but that book suddenly made me see the Big Picture. Wow!!! I can never thank David enough for the courage he showed in spreading his message in the face of ridicule and outright animosity(remember the Wogan show?).Through it all he always carried himself with immense dignity and I for one have nothing but respect and admiration for him. The Reptilian aspect of his revelation seems too unbelievable to be true in our limited worldview concept, but look at the evidence...BOOM!
etheric underground
30th May 2017, 02:01
Nah... real deal. Passionate, relentless, and he never waivers
My discerning vibe is he is all about bettering and waking us up.
Keep up the work mr Icke
The Moss Trooper
30th May 2017, 05:39
Knowingly, or as I suspect, unknowingly, a very useful tool of MI5.
I was/am a fan of David's work, his historical research is second-to-none, but you must remember the litmus test.
Those with truly shocking and damaging information, never make it to the stage.
I'd trust him more if he wore a cool Indiana Jones hat like Bill... ☺☺☺
David is a pioneer.. Maybe even the godfather of the awakening. My reasons for having a great respect may be different than what has been mentioned so far.
In my world, I've had the embarrassing Christ Complex moment with regards my own amazing experiences... Of course I rejected those moments.. I would definitely embrace my experiences,, but I couldn't accept that I was special.. David was called out on it on a National stage... The ambiguity of the moment sends chills up my spine... He realized in that moment some important things... I can assure you.
On my journey,, I have kept a keen eye out for like minds... maybe I could find folks who had some of the same types of philosophy that would match mine. I have OBEs.. (manymany)
David covers a range of subjects.. he's effing smart. I try to keep up with most of it. Reptilians: I get it.. Exposing pedophilia,, I'm on board. Nobody has done more on that front! For sure... illuminate bloodlines: I get that too.. He connects dots that no-one else has...
For me, David shines when he talks about the non physical nature of our world. When he talks about energetic information being decoded,, or,, frequencies of harmonic light,, or,, a 'holographic' framework,, and,, physical reality being an illusion,, and the human/body computer being a Template that we receive and send information,, and physical reality being non-existent,, only a secondary reflection of the 'primary reality'...
When he talks about these things,, I AM OVERJOYED... I am not alone with mee philosophy.. We have come to the same conclusions,, but from different vantage points.
So I know, for myself,, that he is genuine... (and not cuz a little birdie told me..)
Jake...
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