Super-soldiers

[Gone002]

super soldier questions

Why the need for supersoldiers?
can a supersoldier train a noraml human to be one?
could you time shift into another dimension?
if you can time shift does that mean that there is no destiny /fate, seeing as your changing you fate over and over again/seeing it?
why do they focus on training you in strange ways i.e ESP over brute strength?

if you h ave any info you would like to add etc please do

[Oouthere]

super soldier questions

Why the need for supersoldiers?

"They" have shown us natural disasters and war but we are not certain exactly why we are needed. In one instance "they" even had us on a mission to eliminate 3 ladies that were posing as false gods. Numerous scenarios....
Can a supersoldier train a normal human to be one?

I have no idea how they control us (other than the two chips) or what upgrades were required. Several weeks back I had a refresher training session where you would take multicolor rectangles and place them in a machine. The required energy patterns would immediately be in place, you could then remove the rectangle and practice holding the energy patterns for the desired skill.

Could you time shift into another dimension?

Our fights are not limited to only the training matrix/astral plan. I was sent into one battle where my energy was like a blanket of charcoal and the enemy had to encompassed to be stopped. In that particular fight it seemed as if your soul/spirit could be damaged if you lost.

If you can time shift does that mean that there is no destiny /fate, seeing as your changing you fate over and over again/seeing it?

In one particular scenario they showed me two men living their lives. As their karma was performed it was written on a tapestry. They showed me mine and it was not to be written on in this life due to the work I am to perform.

Why do they focus on training you in strange ways i.e ESP over brute strength?

We are trained to be fearless through conventional means, though I still have a controlled fright at times. In one instance they had me fight something like the Hulk but I was only my normal size and strength. That was to make me muster the courage to stand toe-to-toe with something that could easily kill me.

In another instance they had me go against a giant crab that was enormous (best guess is 150' to 300' across) without looking at my notes). I killed it by levitating a bag of BB's into a loosely formed band saw and cut into it until it broke in half under its own weight.

In another scenario they had my team go against an invasion of much larger creatures that seemed to be 1/4 mile plus long. Everyone else but our team was pulled from the city and even with our abilities we were in full defense mode, just trying to stay alive.

If you have any info you would like to add etc please do

I wish to talk directly with others like me, it is almost like a therapy and helps keep us going. There are many of us out there, not all necessarily soldiers. I was found by a group that had seen my daughter and I in dreams before we met. They are what I call my secondary group. They are the ones that have been trained to attend those that we liberate and help keep us going as well. This is a team effort and everyone is needed.



I wish to talk directly with others like me, it is almost like a therapy and helps keep us going. There are many of us out there, not all necessarily soldiers. I was found by a group that had seen my daughter and I in dreams before we met. They are what I call my secondary group. They are the ones that have been trained to attend those that we liberate and help keep us going as well. This is a team effort and everyone is needed.


Rich

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

I remember someone speaking at a conference (sorry to be vague, I can't remember wich conference) that the new super soldiers are designed to combat the Sirians? that are coming to this planet.
Also there has been a sugestion that this is the reason for the body scanners.
Does anyone else have more details about this?

[3optic]

We are trained to be fearless through conventional means, though I still have a controlled fright at times. In one instance they had me fight something like the Hulk but I was only my normal size and strength. That was to make me muster the courage to stand toe-to-toe with something that could easily kill me.

In another instance they had me go against a giant crab that was enormous (best guess is 150' to 300' across) without looking at my notes). I killed it by levitating a bag of BB's into a loosely formed band saw and cut into it until it broke in half under its own weight.

In another scenario they had my team go against an invasion of much larger creatures that seemed to be 1/4 mile plus long. Everyone else but our team was pulled from the city and even with our abilities we were in full defense mode, just trying to stay alive.

Can you expand a bit on one or all of these scenarios? They sound like training matrix scenarios. Or are we speaking of literal giant crabs here?

[Lost Soul]

Giant crabs? I want to tag along for the crab feast that followed.

[noxon medem]

- Thanks for starting this thread.

Want to enter a few words about the relevance of supersoldiers to
the subject of a possible (false flag) alien invation here on earth.
Many perspectives to this. Will choose one ..
The basic logic behind the reasoning and imagination here,
is that supersoldiers do exist here and now, according to the
personal experience and knowledge of Rich ( Oouthere )
( supported by other known sources )

What scenario would fit the scope of this, to introduce these
super-soldiers, a new level of military enforcement, to the world ?
A very special climate, over some time, would be needed, for
that to happen without it looking like a violent takeover.
A violent alien invation is a perfect scenario for them to enter the
human, earthly, stage. After the first wave of aliens have destroyed
the things their controllers want them to destroy, and they are fought back
at much cost, we await the next wave. Huge resources are spendt making
advanced defenses, and after some time, voila, the super-soldier is born
to protect us, and watch over us to prevent covert subversion from alien
cells and sleepers, that of course would be there in that story.
Bottom line of this story :
- You need a super human cop to fight a super alien villain.
And in periods of silence from space, the new grid is there, and ...

Of course they can be an asset for all, depending on what reality
really look like, and is there any group or force in control, realy ?

Part of the story is that the super-soldier is a puppet, and of course
a valid question is who pull the strings, and who influence them ?

The link between super-soldiers and a fake alian invation have been mentioned
by several people over the years I have been following this kind of subject.

Will follow this with interest. And all well for you, Rich, in your special situation.
nm

:fish2:

[bluestflame]

if there's truth in the fiction of hollywood , try "universal soldier" with jean claude van damme and "soldier" with kurt russell for ideas


Soldier with kurt russell

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi663945497/

[noxon medem]

Universal Soldier (1992)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105698/

Luc and Scott were killed in Vietnam, but the army has a secret project for reanimating dead people as near-perfect soldiers.
Can be seen here:
http://stagevu.com/video/urstrfaqttlo
( Another film by the same name was produced in 1971. Looks interesting too.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183948/ )
Also found a link for the film Soldier, for direct stream.
View these on your own discerned discretion:
http://stagevu.com/video/gmaxhugmwoad
Soldier (1998)


In a futuristic society, some people are selected at birth to become soldiers, and trained in such a manner that they become inhuman killing machines. One of the most succesfull and older of these soldiers (Russell) is pitted against a new breed of soldiers, and after the confrontation is believed to be dead. His body is left behind in a semi-abandoned colonial planet, where everything is peaceful, and he is taught about the other aspects of life. But eventually he has to fight the new breed of soldiers again, this time to defend his new home...

To the topic of Soldiers, humans, and possible false flag cosmic invation/war.
The list of movies depicting encounters with ETs or aliens are long, and a lot of
them have a very primitive and aggressive basic dramaturgy. It is amazing how
even in the most advanced hi-tech sci-fi scenarios, it usually ends up with a fistfight.

If anybody want to view a violent fictional meeting with extraterrestrial lifeforms,
this clip from the human slaughterhouse called "starship troopers" should do it.
- the obligatory warning.
Not realy a christmas morning thing (more messy), viewer discretion advised.
Absolutely not for kids and children.
- this is graphically, extremely violent, and noisy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWhrGGrs3Ow
- not exactly pure intergalactic peace and common understanding in that basic logic.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120201/
Imdb Storyline :

In the distant future high school kids are encouraged to become citizens by joining the military. What they don't know is that they'll soon be engaged in a full scale war against a planet of alien insects. The fight is on to ensure the safety of humanity.

- so where is the (inner) superman when you need it !?!

I do not recommend seeing Starship Troopers because it is not well made.
But here it can be found, if anyone wanna watch, for educational purposes :
http://www.hulu.com/watch/37498/starship-troopers
or
http://www.vidxden.com/lelgz32zms75/Starship.Troopers.1997.m-HD.x264-AsCo.mkv.html

This is another case where going to the source of the moviescript is more rewarding than the film itself.
Some wiki-info:

Starship Troopers is a military science fiction novel by Robert A. Heinlein, first published (in abridged form) as a serial in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction ( October, November 1959, as "Starship Soldier")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers

And not to forget,
the impact of the electrodigital gameworld :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmpqq6NrbmQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmpqq6NrbmQ&feature=related
- enough allready.


all b well, all d way

:fish2:

[redeyeblue]

Has ANYONE ever seen any proof of these so called super soldiers ? This is typical fantasy land stories from over imaginative people, i have yet to see anyone demonstrate special abilities such as described above. I know the so called super soldiers will say they can only use their powers when activated or some other mumbo jumbo, it is also incredible how many people take this stuff in without one shred of evidence. It is time people with common sense and a little inteligence call these people out, in my opinion it is distracting from the real dangers we face at a time we should be united and wide eyed. Being open minded does not mean we should let the grey matter fall out.

[Oouthere]

Hiya champion,

I remember someone speaking at a conference (sorry to be vague, I can't remember which conference) that the new super soldiers are designed to combat the Sirians?

That would probably be Cynthia Crawford (http://www.etsculptor.com/blog/about/). We met at the 2009 UFO Congress and she received a telepathic message indicating I was a soldier from the Sirian system and here to protect others during an upcoming event. Her story is fascinating!

At the same conference I also met Michael Elligion (http://channelforthemasters.com/). Anyone that says he is not the real deal is simply closed minded. When we met it was as if I was talking to a long lost brother. He received telepathic messages also confirming my being a soldier plus told me of my training that I did not understand. When I had gone through the time-shift training I reacted correctly but when you see a large laser being fired at you but your speed is so fast that you can easily out pace the beam.....it is confusing. What was most convincing was I had not told him of the scenarios.....he confirmed to me what I had experienced.

Another person I met was Miriam Delicado (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1266709952472&set=a.1266707272405.42096.1371498102) . The first time I saw her interview on Project Camelot I knew my daughter needed to meet her. She is probably the primary reason we attended the conference. Another abductee introduced us at her table. I remember her looking around and stating something had just changed after we met. She then asked the other abductee to leave so we could talk alone. Not many words were spoken but she grabbed my daughters hands and then mine while looking into our eyes. My daughter and I left her table shortly thereafter and started crying, her for about 30 minute and me for about 90. My daughter said it felt as if Miriam had opened her up. People would ask me what was wrong and I could not talk but would burst into tears again. Other things were said that will not be stated here, but there is a connection between the three of us that I do not understand.

I have no idea about the body scanners.

[Bill Ryan]

In another instance they had me go against a giant crab that was enormous (best guess is 150' to 300' across) without looking at my notes). I killed it by levitating a bag of BB's into a loosely formed band saw and cut into it until it broke in half under its own weight.

Rich: I'm calling you on this delusional nonsense.

If there's any truth to your claimed experiences, you are now discrediting yourself as fast as you can type.

[Oouthere]

Can you expand a bit on one or all of these scenarios? They sound like training matrix scenarios. Or are we speaking of literal giant crabs here?

Everything feels real while in the training, sometimes more than here as your senses feel heightened. This is an extract concerning the crab from wanna-be book that has yet to be published....


g. I find myself in a country setting amongst older wooden homes that I thought were abandon with one having a large piece of equipment like an old harvester of some sort, broken down in the front yard. I had decided to use this as target practice for my levitations. Since at this time I could not levitate much weight the intention was to get enough altitude of the levitated object and accelerate it down onto the target. Hoping my weak levitation skills could be made into an effective weapon.

It is dusk and a man in a pick-up truck across the field stops, leaving his truck running, headlights on high beam, pointing at me and screaming “there he is!” A woman and her son of perhaps 8 to 10 years old run across the field and into the house looking for me. I wish on the invisibility and it works, though I can still see myself, they cannot. I walk outside but the woman is very close so I levitate up but one of my feet brushes against her and I think she feels it, which causes her to jog toward her son but not telling anyone what she felt. I become visible then asking her if it is ok if I come by occasionally and she likes that idea. Then it gets really strange and intimidation sets in…..a giant red crab is seen approaching toward the truck, like a scene from a bad horror movie but this time it is real. This crab is a good 300’ to 400’ wide, 50’ to 75’ tall and is coming at us. I see a bag of BB’s weighing 5 to 10 pounds and throw it in the direction of the crab. I levitate them into a cloud above the creature and start diving them into it, making thousands of perforations, circling them back up again in an oblong path like a circular jig saw blade made of loosely clung BB’s. The creature is getting very angry and it seems I’m at the edge of my abilities in endurance and strength, screaming out trying to maintain the revolving cloud in order to save the others. Large chunks of flesh and shell can be seen flying off as the cloud of BB’s continues to cut deep toward the center of the body. A chunk of flesh about half the size of a washing machine is seen flying in our direction but it is not close enough to justify changing its path as practically all of my focus is needed to maintain the cloud’s progress. Finally the creature breaks in half and dies. I’m startled into consciousness and notice the clock shows 3:15 a.m…..a typical scenario time.

[Oouthere]

Ok, except there are corroborations.

Rich

[Bill Ryan]

Everything feels real while in the training, sometimes more than here as your senses feel heightened.


In another instance they had me go against a giant crab that was enormous (best guess is 150' to 300' across) without looking at my notes). I killed it by levitating a bag of BB's into a loosely formed band saw and cut into it until it broke in half under its own weight.

If this is a scene from an interactive holodeck video game played with a full-sensory helmet, then anything goes - as you're effectively in a manipulated dream.

But this simply isn't hard reality. Please be responsible and clear about what you're describing. And if your training was partly virtual, therefore blurring the distinctions between reality and created fantasy, beware the possibility that blurred lines may remain both in your memory and present-time perception.

Maintaining that everything was 'real' will only result in those who might listen to your experiences with sympathy and interest rapidly moving towards the door.

[Gone002]

well put bill and thank you to others (rich etc) for adding to the thread

[Banshee]

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[Bill Ryan]

.... there are giant crabs, squid and other massive life forms in the ocean.

Can't believe we're having this conversation!

Giant squid exist and MAY be up to 100' long (including tentacles).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_squid

The world's largest crab grows up to 6 feet across:

http://environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/largest-crab-on-earth/19650

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sites/default/files/images/http-inlinethumb14.webshots.com-29773-2326656030105960926S600x600Q85.preview.jpg

[shybastid]

Thanks Bill. I actually believe that Wikireport. And thanks for a reality check. Sometimes when I'm reading here,I too get caught up in the moment.
Thanks for clarification on the Crab Fight! I was wondering how he lifted the bag of BB's.

[Banshee]

Can't believe we're having this conversation!

Nor can I!!! That was a rhetorical question!

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Has ANYONE ever seen any proof of these so called super soldiers ? This is typical fantasy land stories from over imaginative people, i have yet to see anyone demonstrate special abilities such as described above. I know the so called super soldiers will say they can only use their powers when activated or some other mumbo jumbo, it is also incredible how many people take this stuff in without one shred of evidence. It is time people with common sense and a little inteligence call these people out, in my opinion it is distracting from the real dangers we face at a time we should be united and wide eyed. Being open minded does not mean we should let the grey matter fall out.

James Casbolt would be frothing at the mouth right about now lol (sorry guys couldn't resist) :)

[Banshee]

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[Fredkc]

James Casbolt would be frothing at the mouth right about now lol (sorry guys couldn't resist) :)

http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif

Sorry... had to be done
Fred

[mountain_jim]

The Casbolt thread in the Conspiracy section, with link to his .pdf, got removed in the last week. I wondered why. (I was respectful myself because I have read enough to believe various CIA/Nazi-related trauma-based mind-control programs have existed and probably still do, for super-soldiers, sex-slaves, and manchurian candidates, at least, and anyone exposed to these things would have difficulty distinguishing real experiences from programmed memories.)

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Thanks for the Starship Troopers clip noxon. I've always wondered about that film. Maybe giving us a hint about Mars?

[Carmody]

I've got an open mind but no so open that my brain falls out. Sometime I have to crack my head open so more gets in there - to ruminate upon.

Sometimes I have to go and retrieve my brain, wipe the dirt off ..(as it got stuck in a corner while blindly attempting to hump it's way around on the floor, and picked up a lot of dirt).... and stick it back in the 'ole bean.

Point being, that to find truth, nothing can be eliminated.

Point being, that to find truth, things must be eliminated.

So I'm sitting here reading and attempting to put this presentation 'on', like a cloak or outfit/mask...and I strut around wearing it, going through the motions...on a self created stage based on logic..trying to see if this whole thing works. Test fitting it into a potential for direction and reality.

I find that it is not passing enough of that kind of test to go anywhere. For me, that is.

The big problem for this kind of analysis..and most people do analysis via self identification that is some variant of the method mentioned above..the big problem is that the depth of the technicalities can be beyond most people's capacity for discernment and too many of the proffered components are in the area of suppositional and unsupported points.

One gets fears and the rush of potentials in their lives ("I too could be a sort of 'supersoldier' and feel empowered and safe!") ..both being tweaked at the same time. Part and parcel of the 'I knew it!' syndrome of realization of fears and expectations as a projection.

This sort of thing is the heart of what is known as a con. A con is done on the psychological level more than anywhere else. A con is not necessarily an act of corporations, politicians, or subversives. It can be a self created issue and for the most part in human communications and lives, that is the more common situation.

Whether one is reading that sort of thing here, on this forum, in this thread, is up to the reader/participant to decide. This is just, to me, an open way of looking at it. There are obviously other viewpoints. As many (and more) variants of viewpoint as there are participants.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Hiya champion,

I remember someone speaking at a conference (sorry to be vague, I can't remember which conference) that the new super soldiers are designed to combat the Sirians?

That would probably be Cynthia Crawford (http://www.etsculptor.com/blog/about/). We met at the 2009 UFO Congress and she received a telepathic message indicating I was a soldier from the Sirian system and here to protect others during an upcoming event. Her story is fascinating!

At the same conference I also met Michael Elligion (http://channelforthemasters.com/). Anyone that says he is not the real deal is simply closed minded. When we met it was as if I was talking to a long lost brother. He received telepathic messages also confirming my being a soldier plus told me of my training that I did not understand. When I had gone through the time-shift training I reacted correctly but when you see a large laser being fired at you but your speed is so fast that you can easily out pace the beam.....it is confusing. What was most convincing was I had not told him of the scenarios.....he confirmed to me what I had experienced.

Another person I met was Miriam Delicado (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1266709952472&set=a.1266707272405.42096.1371498102) . The first time I saw her interview on Project Camelot I knew my daughter needed to meet her. She is probably the primary reason we attended the conference. Another abductee introduced us at her table. I remember her looking around and stating something had just changed after we met. She then asked the other abductee to leave so we could talk alone. Not many words were spoken but she grabbed my daughters hands and then mine while looking into our eyes. My daughter and I left her table shortly thereafter and started crying, her for about 30 minute and me for about 90. My daughter said it felt as if Miriam had opened her up. People would ask me what was wrong and I could not talk but would burst into tears again. Other things were said that will not be stated here, but there is a connection between the three of us that I do not understand.

I have no idea about the body scanners.

Hi Oouthere

I think the body scanners was mentioned by Kerry but I'm not sure.

[mountain_jim]

As one who cut my teeth on Heinlein sci-fi books starting in grammer-school, I find the movie Starship Troopers to be quite dissapointing. To quote an old Dr Who character - "all the subtlety is lost".

Par for the course for Heilein fiction turned into movies - all of them subpar. Still waiting on someone to attempt Stranger In A Strange Land or The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress as films. Those could really be good if done right.

[Ahkenaten]

Nor can I!!! That was a rhetorical question!

Frankly I find this whole thread to be hilarious! Moving from the super soldier to the surreal is perfect........................I am positive that if anything like a super soldier existed we would not be talking to him or her on this Forum! We would be much more likely to be chatting it up and having a beer with a giant squid or crab!!

[Gone002]

i have to say when i started this thread i was hoping for a more down to earth answer lol

[Bill Ryan]

Hiya champion,

I remember someone speaking at a conference (sorry to be vague, I can't remember which conference) that the new super soldiers are designed to combat the Sirians?

That would probably be Cynthia Crawford (http://www.etsculptor.com/blog/about/). We met at the 2009 UFO Congress and she received a telepathic message indicating I was a soldier from the Sirian system and here to protect others during an upcoming event.

She told me that, as well.

[Rocky_Shorz]

wooo hooo we're all safe, Bill has us covered!!!

[Carmody]

My problem is that with the supersoldier thing..is that apparently, from my understanding of it...that this CAN take place. It, to my information --CAN be done.

Further,to my own personal recollection (As I can only answer for me), that I have done things or participated in the release and movement of energies on a par of what is being spoken of here, in this thread. Now, whether one is dealing with a supersoldier or not, or some affected feeling variant, that is up to the reader to try and discern.

So, IMO and IME (two important statements that should mean everything and nothing at the same time heheheh...:rolleyes:) this can be done. However, it seems a bit fanciful.

I for example, am rarely in any of my "dreams". It's always people I don't know in situations and places I'm not familiar with. Now, for the casual reader, what the heck does that mean?

[bluestflame]

more food for thought , the movie "firestarter" ( drew barrymore "

experiments in esp and pyrokinesis by "the shop"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6LtbBF5zEM

[Ross]

My problem is that with the supersoldier thing..is that apparently, from my understanding of it...that this CAN take place. It, to my information --CAN be done.

Further,to my own personal recollection (As I can only answer for me), that I have done things or participated in the release and movement of energies on a par of what is being spoken of here, in this thread. Now, whether one is dealing with a supersoldier or not, or some affected feeling variant, that is up to the reader to try and discern.

So, IMO and IME (two important statements that should mean everything and nothing at the same time heheheh...:rolleyes:) this can be done. However, it seems a bit fanciful.

I for example, am rarely in any of my "dreams". It's always people I don't know in situations and places I'm not familiar with. Now, for the casual reader, what the heck does that mean?

As William Shatner would say...."Weird or What":p

[Gone002]

i find this stuff kinda funny, i mean what effect would they have in a combat situation. i would say very little to be honest with you

[Carmody]

I dunno. Being Keabbinu Reebs in 'The Camry' (1993)* is just gotta have some coolness factor. But seriously... it is not my desire to ridicule anyone, or this thread.

I've no idea what it means.

For me, there are certain thresholds. Certain aspects of realities and potentials in realities that may be or may possibly take place.

Everyone will make out things to their own level and type of discernment. I only hope to illustrate some of the mechanics of basic decision making processes. I'm hopefully showing how clear headed decision making is done, in my hopefully humble way of doing either.

*(couldn't afford the newer matrix)

[SPIRIT WOLF]

As soon as some decent spare time arrives I'd like to input into this topic, give it a different slant

[bluestflame]

I get , a lot of people are being trained or reminded for work in other realms , part of the dissolving of the veils and the dismantling of the illusion matrix

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

As one who cut my teeth on Heinlein sci-fi books starting in grammer-school, I find the movie Starship Troopers to be quite dissapointing. To quote an old Dr Who character - "all the subtlety is lost".

Par for the course for Heilein fiction turned into movies - all of them subpar. Still waiting on someone to attempt Stranger In A Strange Land or The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress as films. Those could really be good if done right.

Have you seen the movie 'Moon' It's a low budget sci fi but its actually very good.

[Banshee]

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[Carmody]

Perhaps we were never away and the illusion of human ordering is part of the core design of that woven illusion.

In my mind and experience..when I was personally at a peak of awareness, psychically speaking, I could look at a person and if they took one step and uttered one word, or even moved at all..I could clearly discern the crying infant, the small child, the young person, the unsure adult and the sheen of fabricated space we call our daily mask, the projection of adulthood we call 'grown'. I could easily see the gears individually, separately..or combined in any way. If I looked even closer, I could see the fine separation of body and occupying spirit. I could not shut that discernment or sensitivity off. I had opened a door by clearing out my kundalini... and the door was wide open and it was all pouring through. I spent most of my time trying to stay alive and keep sane.

I could talk in people's heads, cause accidents, change weather, cause electrical devices to malfunction, see through time. Newborn children would cry, etc, the moment I entered a room. Every animal, including birds, wanted to be near me, or accepted my presence willingly. Meat was difficult to eat as when I put the given meat in my mouth, I would flash to being inside and with the given animal when it died. And on and on.

So some aspects of this situation in this thread are a bit out there, but who am I to judge? The problem comes when fantasy looks the same. Which is part and parcel of how disinformation operates. Confuse the issue so no one knows what to make of any of it.

And to any outsider reading this thread and my comments in it... it's the scene in the first Indiana Jones film, in the burning pub in Nepal. Where the German officer says about Indy and the guy Indy is struggling/fighting with, "Shoot them. Shoot them both."

[Carmody]

She told me that, as well.

Oh oh. I was told that I was the same...separately... by someone else.

Waiter!

There's too many Sirians in this soup!

I want the vegetable instead!

[Ammit]

I have to say this thread is beginning to confuse my poor little brain. :confused:

The concensus seems to be that super soldiers do exist, ok, but what if the super soldier was actually human looking but not of earth??. After all, if these poor folk ( if they existed ) had to wage a war on outside forces that were more powerfull, then I have to doubt that we humans could fit the bill to acomplish it. You can train the best soldiers in the world to BE THE BEST, but could we really prepare any super soldier to fight what we as yet have no idea if these outside foes exist or even if they resemble massive crabs, huge bird like things with sharp pointy beaks?

I often dream of me, me in a world of different colours, as part of a group of other people who even in my dreams I feel a kinship towards, all fighting, hiding and hunting humanoid `things`, maybe simply an over active dream or maybe a past life springing forth during sleep state!! Maybe im just plain nuts....:noidea:

The scanners at airports now, I assume from what I have read that they maybe in place to detect different species, well, if that is the case then surely it means that what ever needs to be scanned is actually already here? or is it simply a case that some of us could be this other species, either as is or evolving into?.

Im confussed DOT COM

Anyhoo, it is rather early and not had much sleep.

Blessings

Ammit

[Bill Ryan]

As soon as some decent spare time arrives I'd like to input into this topic, give it a different slant

I look forward to that, Barry!

Here's my take in a nutshell:



Super-soldiers are very real.
There have been projects aiming at optimizing human ability on the battlefield since the 50s.
The methods used included MK-ULTRA technology and also high-tech supplementation of abilities (electronic and bionic enhancement - also using drugs and implants).
More than one superpower has been engaged in this.
Duncan O'Finioan was one of the first to tell his story to a wider public.
He is in touch behind the scenes with over 100 others who have not wanted to come forward publicly (yet).
Many victims of these programs (I use 'victims' in the Jason Bourne sense) have memory losses - and cannot yet recall what really happened during periods of their lives.
In some cases, those memory-loss victims have been used as convenient assets to discredit the whole super-soldier 'disclosure' - which has threatened to become a problem.

[The Truth Is In There]

i see people talking about fantasy and illusion and judging others as if they are lunatics just because they come forward with their experiences. i don't want to preach but judgement is one of the things we had better get rid of. i'd not discredit any of these experiences as less "real" than everything around us. none of us is in a position to do so.

btw, what carmody describes is basically what everyone of us will be able to experience in just a few years, without the current level of discomfort of course.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Thanks Bill
I was waiting for someone to mention Duncan O'finian on this thread. Had to be you of course. Now perhaps this thread can get going.

[Gone002]

to be honest i have seen the videos of duncan o'Finian holding on to very heavy weights, i have never seen him benching or curling very heavy weights. so to be honest i call BS on the super strong part of this.

[Bill Ryan]

i see people talking about fantasy and illusion and judging others as if they are lunatics just because they come forward with their experiences. i don't want to preach but judgement is one of the things we had better get rid of. i'd not discredit any of these experiences as less "real" than everything around us. none of us is in a position to do so.

btw, what carmody describes is basically what everyone of us will be able to experience in just a few years, without the current level of discomfort of course.

Anyone who thinks that killing a 300 foot crab is a real-world event is deluded, programmed, or under the effects of drugs.

I respect Rich and his willingness to share his experiences, but I will also call something as unreal (or subjective, which may be a better way of saying it) when I'm as sure as I can be that it is. To operate any other way is unintelligent. Comparing and contrasting information is part of what intelligence IS.

It's a service to Rich and the other super-soldiers - some of whom HAVE had very real, traumatic and extreme experiences - to assist in discriminating between what's real and what's not.

Otherwise the entire ship sinks under the weight of ridicule - which may very well be what someone intends.

To listen to anyone and anything out there and give it all equal weight (see also my response to you here on the Orions thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9784-Question-about-the-Orions&p=84406&viewfull=1#post84406)) is very dumb. It does not have equal weight. This is the point.

Not any one of us has all the right answers - certainly myself included - and I've recently learned a lot of new stuff which I have been digesting for months now. Making sense of it all is what we're together tasked to do... and critiquing testimony with patience and intelligence is part of that.


what carmody describes is basically what everyone of us will be able to experience in just a few years, without the current level of discomfort of course.

I very much doubt that! Carmody is an exceptional individual. In my very strong opinion, we will not suddenly find ourselves with magical superpowers when we wake up one morning in a couple of years time. Reality just doesn't work like that.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

i find this stuff kinda funny, I mean what effect would they have in a combat situation. i would say very little to be honest with you

Special operations, black projects, off planet projects, projects that would blow your mind and challenge your concept of reality.

Since wars began its always been a military commanders dream to have specialised elite unts.
Theban Sacred Band, Immortals, Hashishin, Ninja, French Foriegn Legion, SAS, SEALS etc. The list goes on. But as warfare has advanced so has the concept of not just having an elite unit but a super soldier.

A soldier that has no fatigue, remains in top physical condition, highly intelligent, quick thinking, combat specialist in all fields, kills without remorse, follow orders without question, no emotion and suffers no physical or mental trauma on the battlefield.
Someone like this I'd say would have an effect in any combat situation. Maybe not used as frontline cannonfodder but in raids, behind enemy lines, assasination of targets etc. Of course this is only in conventional warfare..........

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

to be honest i have seen the videos of duncan o'Finian holding on to very heavy weights, i have never seen him benching or curling very heavy weights. so to be honest i call BS on the super strong part of this.

I'm not picking on you celt just answering your thread. I know what you mean. You would expect him to break the world record and not even break sweat. But bear in mind his neck is actually broken and he has suffered a heart attack.
So lifting those weights like he does is still quite an achievenment. But also bear in mind this is his normal personality, his normal state of mind.
The multi-personality and mind controlling he has undergone through MK-Ultra could make him switch into someone or something else, so who knows what he would be capable of.
The mind is an amazing thing when its unlocked and unleashed your potential is unlimited.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

I often dream of me, me in a world of different colours, as part of a group of other people who even in my dreams I feel a kinship towards, all fighting, hiding and hunting humanoid `things`, maybe simply an over active dream or maybe a past life springing forth during sleep state!! Maybe im just plain nuts....:noidea:

The scanners at airports now, I assume from what I have read that they maybe in place to detect different species, well, if that is the case then surely it means that what ever needs to be scanned is actually already here? or is it simply a case that some of us could be this other species, either as is or evolving into?.

Im confussed DOT COM

Anyhoo, it is rather early and not had much sleep.

Blessings

Ammit

No your not nuts. I used to have similar dreams all the time. About being in a group, mainly running, surviving and hiding against a whole population. These dreams would start and continue where they left off, which was wierd. And each time the group would get smaller as we were hunted down.

As for the scanners I'm not sure about the source. There is so much information out there now it comes in thick and fast. Its difficult to rember who said what where and when. Maybe Bill can input here. But I think it was Kerry saying this was to detect or deter the Sirian super soldiers coming here.
Who knows whats going on.
Its a bit like the stories of radio frequencies being used to take down UFO's in the 40' and 50's

[Gone002]

fair points, on both message. when i ment super soldiers i did not mean SAS types(they can't time shift etc), i ment the ones that were training to be more psy-warriors than soldiers.

EDIT
Any info on why people with celtic or native american genes were picked more often than most other ethnic groups. duncan mentions it in his interview

sorry for spelling

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

EDIT
Any info on why people with celtic or native american genes were picked more often than most other ethnic groups. duncan mentions it in his interview

sorry for spelling

Although they are on other sides of the water their concepts of religion are the same. The power of spirit in all things. This above all other religions opened up their consciousness and so they were more prone to have psychic abilities developing through generations.
As opposed to other cultures and civilizations whos religions were very controlling and repressive and where psychic abilities were discouraged and only allowed to be expressd by a certain few.
We are also talking about something that started in caves thousands of years before other religions. Which would explain about the genes and psychic abilities.
To put it another way would be if you had a Shaman or a Catholic Priest who would you choose to be more psychic. And then times that by thousands of generations.

[Carmody]

Anyone who thinks that killing a 300 foot crab is a real-world event is deluded, programmed, or under the effects of drugs.

I respect Rich and his willingness to share his experiences, but I will also call something as unreal (or subjective, which may be a better way of saying it) when I'm as sure as I can be that it is. To operate any other way is unintelligent. Comparing and contrasting information is part of what intelligence IS.

It's a service to Rich and the other super-soldiers - some of whom HAVE had very real, traumatic and extreme experiences - to assist in discriminating between what's real and what's not.

Otherwise the entire ship sinks under the weight of ridicule - which may very well be what someone intends.

To listen to anyone and anything out there and give it all equal weight (see also my response to you here on the Orions thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9784-Question-about-the-Orions&p=84406&viewfull=1#post84406)) is very dumb. It does not have equal weight. This is the point.

Not any one of us has all the right answers - certainly myself included - and I've recently learned a lot of new stuff which I have been digesting for months now. Making sense of it all is what we're together tasked to do... and critiquing testimony with patience and intelligence is part of that.



I very much doubt that! Carmody is an exceptional individual. In my very strong opinion, we will not suddenly find ourselves with magical superpowers when we wake up one morning in a couple of years time. Reality just doesn't work like that.

thank you Bill. My point about developing discernment cuts both ways. One where the person posting may feel sure of their experiences but at the same time, should engage people so that they can take the information in over time. The problem comes when we are talking about integrating with the given member of the public..and the person presenting has experiences they believe in or feel they need to air. "memories' that are difficult and they want to share for reasons of catharsis. (catharsis:A purifying or figurative cleansing of the emotions)

I'm thinking that the OP, had a memory or recall of something that had a real AND overlay aspect to it.

For example, I was speaking in a usersgroup involving shamen and psychics. I shared what I felt my understandings were, about 'seeing though time'. Which is an incorrect statement or incomplete statement.

What I was doing, is seeing through probability.

And, that I was seeing through probability with my own physical BRAIN and it's deepest animal origins to do this. If one is incarnated, everything is routed through the biological system. In this case, it means that the energies I was trying to interpret as a potential emergent timeline... causes me to see things shaped as MY PERSONAL experiences in learning shapes, colors, creature, people, etc things, overall..my brain decided what I saw WAS. The old story about the cop at the accident scene getting 30 individual reports of the incident and 30 reports being different, in more ways than one thinks is possible. It's like the Freudian/Jungian interpretation of ink blots.

Due to this characteristic of discernment coming out of the core of who we are, ie, discerning your keyboard, your cup of coffee, etc..right now....due to this coming from the deepest aspects of the autonomous animal core system...we end up with our deepest fears writ large across our psychic interpretations of the things we witness or are involved in.

What my point was, that in this given group of highly intelligent shamen, psychics, researchers, astrologers, writers, etc...when I spoke on this subject..I told the person I was addressing to calm themselves about what they 'saw' in their 'visions'. I said that humans have strong core design tendencies to grab the first explanation that comes along...and run with it.

Humans have an ego that wants to make sure you never threaten it's position and holds your conscious logical mind hostage to this ego thing that runs the autonomous system, doing this unseen and unrealized by the conscious mind. Exactly the way the ego needs to to be. The ego may not be smart..and it may get all it's info it processes through your body alone (ego does not possess intellect!!), but since everything the conscious intelligence uses to discern must pass through and be shaped by the ego(!!)...you then have a problem with logical discernment.....UNTIL you realize that the ego stands in the way of clarity.

My point to the younger dude who was in the process of freaking out about his visions, with respect to trying to help him....was that he desperately needed to calm his emotions so the coloration of the visions would not turn into something akin to nightmares as the ego inflamed what it did not know and could not interpret.....into giant monstrous horrible issues.

What I explained to the young man was that the more I removed and calmed my ego into being out of the situation, the more clearly I could discern the future potential and possibility bits that were coming through. To see the things or presentations as they really were, and not as dangers to my body.

The body fears the unknown ...as it's primary design point is to have fight or flight danger response as THE ORIGINAL and underlying FIRST test of any reality that is proffered to the senses. The vehicle must be preserved at all costs and the body/ego runs that show, period.

This then becomes the point that ALL psychic activities are areas of deep fear and humongous unknowns and total freefall --to the body and it's associated ego. Thus, unless one is INCREDIBLY calm and under control and can sublimate the ego in near totality, almost every vision and everything a person sees or gets as messages across dimensional boundaries will be severely tainted by the body trying to shape the information into fear based images that are definite--so it can respond.

A shaman with deep experience came out of the woodwork, at that point, in the given group...and said that this is exactly correct and this is part of how they are trained.

So, in essence, in a given vision..if your ego gets a hold of you for a few seconds it can balloon things into nightmare scenarios. heck, most of us have a few of those moments each day!

And when in the world of slipping the mind into dimensional and dimensionless contact, the entire thing feels continuously like falling backward out of a plane, and worse. To start-it only gets worse from there. The body is in completely unfamiliar territory that is far more unfamiliar than birth is. Learning to ride that bicycle and calm the ego-self is the most important part to getting to the point of clear interpretation and clear manifestation that becomes useful to the individual and all whom may surround them..


In essence, ALWAYS take the fear based interpretations of visions, dreams, etc (I hope they are easy to recognize now-by their shape) from yourself ...or anyone else... with a HUGE block of salt.

[NancyV]

Special operations, black projects, off planet projects, projects that would blow your mind and challenge your concept of reality.

Since wars began its always been a military commanders dream to have specialised elite unts. Theban Sacred Band, Immortals, Hashishin, Ninja, French Foriegn Legion, SAS, SEALS etc. The list goes on. But as warfare has advanced so has the concept of not just having an elite unit but a super soldier.

A soldier that has no fatigue, remains in top physical condition, highly intelligent, quick thinking, combat specialist in all fields, kills without remorse, follow orders without question, no emotion and suffers no physical or mental trauma on the battlefield. Someone like this I'd say would have an effect in any combat situation. Maybe not used as frontline cannonfodder but in raids, behind enemy lines, assasination of targets etc. Of course this is only in conventional warfare..........
You're right, Champion, I would guess that certain special ops soldiers have naturally enhanced powers and abilities that were not trained by their handlers and often not fully understood. [deleted]

[Carmody]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zdrzYtW5M

'tis fitting, is it not?

I was listening to this song as I posted. And that, boys and girls, is how the universe works. (not the best version of this song)

Spiritual Spy
by: M-Seven
label: Activate

"They say... seeing is believing..but the true question is..what do you believe you've seen?"

[Gone002]

You're right, Champion, I would guess that certain special ops soldiers have naturally enhanced powers and abilities that were not trained by their handlers and often not fully understood. My husband is a good example of that. He never told them exactly how much he could do in his years in special ops, starting at 16 years old when he left home. The training was definitely more brutal than normal military boot camp and a huge percentage of the soldiers he trained with died in training.

He was part of the Omega Teams Phoenix Project, attached (loosely) to MACV SOG - Military Assistance Command Vietnam, Studies and Observations Group. He thinks the teams 'controls' were mostly CIA, at least that's how they portrayed themselves. He and his team were pretty much left to their own devices and received different missions often involving elimination of certain targets that could occasionally include rogue CIA agents and other Americans but were usually certain high ranking Vietcong.

Vietnam was just the beginning of his career. After being 1 of 9 who returned alive out of the 150 member group he went to Vietnam with, he was told he had to keep working for the government (or whomever he really worked for) or disappear. If he had not wanted to continue working for them they probably couldn't have killed him but he did want to continue on with his career, which involved about 8 years of being an International counter terrorist. In other words, the guy they would send in if they needed something nasty done that most people couldn't do.

Some of his abilities were quite interesting and he discovered more as the years went by. He has been shot many times, has lots of knife wounds, been blown out of helicopters and once mysteriously ended up on the ground with the helicopter just disappeared, blown up in military vehicles - often the only survivor, and other miraculous escapes from death. When captured by a team of Vietcong and put in a cage, he managed to kill them all and escape. He is extremely strong when the need arises. I personally saw him lift 250 lbs with one hand and throw it UP against a wall. (it was a person) It was like no weight at all to him. He is normally stronger than anyone I've met but the super strength seems to appear only when necessary and when his adrenaline is activated.

At a young age he also began to have "paranormal" experiences. He could call lightning, he has traveled to other dimensions and has had many experiences of talking with beings from other dimensions/times who appeared to him here on earth. He pretty much knew that his destiny was to be a warrior and he always knew he would go into the military. The Omega Teams recruiters happened to see him in a bar fight shortly after he enlisted in the Army. He was the last one standing after putting down at least 20 men, his age was 16 at that time. (he had a fake birth certificate so he could join the Army) After being removed from his regular Army unit and taken into the special Omega Teams training, they shredded all his records (and all the other soldiers too) and gave them all new names and ID's. There is not much information available about the Omega Teams even now, although there have been a few things written about them.

In subsequent years he trained and worked with groups such as the French Foreign Legion, Scottish Black Watch, Shin Beth, Mossad, German GSG9 and a British commando unit I can't remember the name of now, and others. He's been sent to many countries for many reasons. Here in the US he was sent to Area 51 a few times, once to help put down a problem with some grays who were attacking and killed some workers. I know it's been said that this happened at Dulce, but according to my husband it also happened at Area 51. He cannot be controlled by the grays mental powers although most people are affected by them. He FELT them but can block their powers. He also cannot be hypnotized.

So I would say that he has certain interesting and powerful abilities that many of us may have but are not as developed as his are, so does that make him a super soldier or something else? Most of us are not born to be warriors as he was. He is also not adversely affected as badly as most men might be after having the experiences he did, probably because he has a marvelous ability to live in the present, accept reality, and basically is not haunted by the past and doesn't dwell on the future. If he were put up against one of the formally trained super soldiers I would have to bet on my husband, give huge odds, and feel sorry for those who were trying to beat him in any way, even though he is now in his mid 50's. Just the sound of his voice is enough to scare a normal person if he uses the "VOICE", not to speak of his lightning fast reflexes and expertise with any weapon, although he doesn't even need a weapon and would be dangerous totally naked! LOL... His IQ is also way above the genius level and he is an artist and writes poetry. Definitely an extremely interesting man!



My husband is of Irish/Celtic heritage and feels a very close connection to the Celts.

Nancy :)

very interesting information thanks. i would love to meet one of these guys and test my strength.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Sounds like quite a guy NancyV

Definately pass as a super soldier. I'm sure he could excel at anything he chose.

[Bill Ryan]

You're right, Champion, I would guess that certain special ops soldiers have naturally enhanced powers and abilities that were not trained by their handlers and often not fully understood. My husband is a good example of that. He never told them exactly how much he could do in his years in special ops, starting at 16 years old when he left home. The training was definitely more brutal than normal military boot camp and a huge percentage of the soldiers he trained with died in training.

He was part of the Omega Teams Phoenix Project, attached (loosely) to MACV SOG - Military Assistance Command Vietnam, Studies and Observations Group. He thinks the teams 'controls' were mostly CIA, at least that's how they portrayed themselves. He and his team were pretty much left to their own devices and received different missions often involving elimination of certain targets that could occasionally include rogue CIA agents and other Americans but were usually certain high ranking Vietcong.

Vietnam was just the beginning of his career. After being 1 of 9 who returned alive out of the 150 member group he went to Vietnam with, he was told he had to keep working for the government (or whomever he really worked for) or disappear. If he had not wanted to continue working for them they probably couldn't have killed him but he did want to continue on with his career, which involved about 8 years of being an International counter terrorist. In other words, the guy they would send in if they needed something nasty done that most people couldn't do.

Some of his abilities were quite interesting and he discovered more as the years went by. He has been shot many times, has lots of knife wounds, been blown out of helicopters and once mysteriously ended up on the ground with the helicopter just disappeared, blown up in military vehicles - often the only survivor, and other miraculous escapes from death. When captured by a team of Vietcong and put in a cage, he managed to kill them all and escape. He is extremely strong when the need arises. I personally saw him lift 250 lbs with one hand and throw it UP against a wall. (it was a person) It was like no weight at all to him. He is normally stronger than anyone I've met but the super strength seems to appear only when necessary and when his adrenaline is activated.

At a young age he also began to have "paranormal" experiences. He could call lightning, he has traveled to other dimensions and has had many experiences of talking with beings from other dimensions/times who appeared to him here on earth. He pretty much knew that his destiny was to be a warrior and he always knew he would go into the military. The Omega Teams recruiters happened to see him in a bar fight shortly after he enlisted in the Army. He was the last one standing after putting down at least 20 men, his age was 16 at that time. (he had a fake birth certificate so he could join the Army) After being removed from his regular Army unit and taken into the special Omega Teams training, they shredded all his records (and all the other soldiers too) and gave them all new names and ID's. There is not much information available about the Omega Teams even now, although there have been a few things written about them.

In subsequent years he trained and worked with groups such as the French Foreign Legion, Scottish Black Watch, Shin Beth, Mossad, German GSG9 and a British commando unit I can't remember the name of now, and others. He's been sent to many countries for many reasons. Here in the US he was sent to Area 51 a few times, once to help put down a problem with some grays who were attacking and killed some workers. I know it's been said that this happened at Dulce, but according to my husband it also happened at Area 51. He cannot be controlled by the grays mental powers although most people are affected by them. He FELT them but can block their powers. He also cannot be hypnotized.

So I would say that he has certain interesting and powerful abilities that many of us may have but are not as developed as his are, so does that make him a super soldier or something else? Most of us are not born to be warriors as he was. He is also not adversely affected as badly as most men might be after having the experiences he did, probably because he has a marvelous ability to live in the present, accept reality, and basically is not haunted by the past and doesn't dwell on the future. If he were put up against one of the formally trained super soldiers I would have to bet on my husband, give huge odds, and feel sorry for those who were trying to beat him in any way, even though he is now in his mid 50's. Just the sound of his voice is enough to scare a normal person if he uses the "VOICE", not to speak of his lightning fast reflexes and expertise with any weapon, although he doesn't even need a weapon and would be dangerous totally naked! LOL... His IQ is also way above the genius level and he is an artist and writes poetry. Definitely an extremely interesting man!


Nancy, that was one quite amazing revelation about your husband. I just read it all three times.

A few questions (if I may):


Is he still active? (Even if past his prime, I'd imagine he'd be invaluable in training others in certain unusual situations.)
I cannot imagine personally being fully aware, above genius IQ, sensitive enough to be an artist and a poet, operating entirely through free choice --- and doing the kind of work he did. Would you say he's a spiritual man? I imagine he must be. Is it possible he was mind-controlled / programmed in some way... at least in part? This question in no way implies any criticism. I hope you can see the reason for the question.
What does he know about the more recent 'generations' of super-soldiers?
Is he aware of Duncan O'Finioan?
Would he be willing to answer questions himself relayed via you from me?

Many thanks again for sharing this remarkable information.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

And should be easy to give some demonstrations of abilities, only foolproof way of validating such claims

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

And should be easy to give some demonstrations of abilities, only foolproof way of validating such claims

Spirit Wolf

You are talking about people who are combat specialists with exteme psychic and physical abilties used to kill incapacitate or maim.
They are not in a circus or entertainers. I would not expect anyone to show their abilities on request.
If you really wanted to see a demonstration of these abilities you would have to be in a place or situation where you wouldn't want to be and your sphincter muscle would be going like crazy.
Sometimes you just have to look at corroborating evidence with an open mind before seeing and believing.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

fair points, on both message. when i ment super soldiers i did not mean SAS types(they can't time shift etc), i ment the ones that were training to be more psy-warriors than soldiers.



Maybe you should mention the SAS. I know what SAS stands for Super Army Soldiers. They told me that themselves. They wouldn't joke about a thing like that.

[NancyV]

[deleted for personal reasons]

[xeon]

Hi Nancy, thanks for sharing. I've been interested in military history since young, and after I became "awake" I have no doubt these "super soldiers" exist. Maybe I've watched too many Rambo movies :)

If you don't mind, can you sort of describe how your husband looks today, physically? Does he look like a 50-something, or.....much younger/older? Thanks!

PS: I'm fairly certain govts gives their elite soldiers some special "brew" but maybe you can confirm that?

[NancyV]

Hi Nancy, thanks for sharing. I've been interested in military history since young, and after I became "awake" I have no doubt these "super soldiers" exist. Maybe I've watched too many Rambo movies :)

If you don't mind, can you sort of describe how your husband looks today, physically? Does he look like a 50-something, or.....much younger/older? Thanks!

PS: I'm fairly certain govts gives their elite soldiers some special "brew" but maybe you can confirm that?
Hi Xeon,

I love the Rambo movies too! Today I watched The A-Team with Liam Neeson. What a great movie! My husband is also a student of military history and studied it for many years.

He looks around his age and just turned 56 a few days ago. He does have a heck of a lot of scars and he occasionally limps a bit because of both legs being broken and multiple operations on his knees. Too many jumps out of planes and helicopters! LOL - Of course to me he looks gorgeous but I have always looked at the energy of someone rather than their body. We both are similar in that way.

The only incident he's told me where the government gave him anything was after he returned from Vietnam he was sent to a remote, secret "clinic" in the mountains of Colorado. He was rather uncooperative and they gave him LSD and put him in a sensory deprivation tank several times. He just relaxed and enjoyed the visions and peace of the tank. They also did some shock treatments on him but basically that was just for the purpose of torturing him and the doctor who delighted in shocking certain men and women had a terrible accident and was found dead, hooked to his own shock machine. They never did find out who might have caused that accident but I suppose they had their suspicions.

Quickly thereafter they pronounced my husband "cured" and sent him on his way, which was a wise decision. Basically his stay in the clinic was punishment for him going off on his own in Vietnam, forming his own army of Hmong tribesmen and fighting his own war, his way, for some months towards the end of his time there. They didn't know that those who attempt to punish him usually end up getting punished themselves, but they found out.

Nancy :)

[xeon]

Thanks, Nancy. Looks like your husband went through a lot of physical punishment.

Maybe I watched the Universal Soldier soldier series too many times, then. ;) What stood out during that show, was how those soldiers need to be injected with some type of serum to maintain their physical condition. And knowing that Hollywood is the mouthpiece of the elite, there may be some truth to that.

I was thinking something like a mixture of growth hormone, DHEA, and other hormones (for example) would be given to the soldiers periodically - Or maybe because your husband was of the first generation? (HGH therapy became "mainstream" around the year 2000).

If athletes are taking (or abusing) it all the time, I'm sure the govt does something similar with their special forces.

[Kari Lynn]

Wow just read this from start tonight. Very interesting.
Having read books and literature from David Moorehouse and Lyn Buchanon, I have to say that you are right Nancy, how can you train someone to have a special gift or feel or sixth sense if they don't already have it?
From what I've read, they look for and pick people who already have that 6th sense, and then take them and train them in very strict and brutally physical camps to see who makes it, and who quits or dies.
Also to see who embraces their gifts, and use them, or who denies them, or doubts them. There can be no doubt in oneself or ones ability. (wow listen to me. Ms. Insecurity. lol Maybe I should take some of my own advice. ROFL)
Many of these military personel that I've communicated with both verbally in person, and over internet email, have stated that they have almost a premonition of a sense of danger coming, so that they can either avoid it, or be prepared that it's there and not be taken by surprise. They aren't walking into an area blindly, because they literally sensed the area, persons, and dangers before hand.
And certainly it has been told by these soldiers, that they were told, when entering these types of special forces and teams, that they were picked because they WERE the only survivors out of many. Because it's highly likely that the survivors are using their psychic or sixth sense to keep themselves alert and alive.
I believe that though many refer to them as supersoldiers, it doesn't really help to allieviate the fantasy appeal to the name. so will use as Barry says, GMP. I believe that stands for Genetically Modified Personel. Am I correct Barry? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Being one myself, I can honestly say.......... I haven't a clue what I do! lol.
I have my little tiny 5 second clip memories, that confuse more than enlighten, and many suspicions.
I believe I am perhaps the psychic side of a team. I have no proof, no validity from an papers, or anything. Just my own thoughts because of some of the abilities I have and some connections or bonds that I feel with other GMP soldiers. And they with me as well. Fuzzy face told me the other day, "Thank God your not pregnant!" lol. Aw gee, but then you'd know what "Glowing" feels like! Which feels awfully simular to nausea! ROFL (my knee and shoulder are currently messed up and I think he can tell.)

Just my own personal thoughts, about what we might be doing as a team, but again, I have no form of validity. But I suspect that I use my remote viewing ability to locate a target, and the GMP soldiers either capture, or kill target.
I also believe it's possible that I might be finding these targets, by somehow "joining" with them mentally. like becoming them. And is why I'm so terrified and reluctant to do that, because of the fear it causes in me. Also, even if I do realize that its the target and not me they're shooting at, I would not likely want to see anyone killed or hurt, or captured, so would likely be un cooperative. So I'm wondering, if I'm guessing correctly on above scenerio, that would be why Major Kavanagh would be needed to keep me calm and cooperative?

But even still, I constantly wonder and ask "What am I" It can't just be that I can Remote View. Because there are plenty of people who can do it, and do it better than me. And they don't have a team of agents holding PS over them. Or CIA agents and military doctors showing up in the hospital to save their lives. Or Generals, and Air Force, special forces black ops officer observe them at work. Navy soldiers at scout meeting with boys, Marines, and Navy at every place I've ever worked. And usually where ever I shop, I see someone in uniform, or has that "Look" of military about them, even if out of uniform.
So yeah..... I'm still wondering "what the h*ll am I?" And WHY? (I swear to God, if anyone says "Special" or "ET" I'll kick my size 8 1/2 steel toed boot up their bums! lol Kidding)

[Kari Lynn]

after he returned from Vietnam he was sent to a remote, secret "clinic" in the mountains of Colorado. He was rather uncooperative and they gave him LSD and put him in a sensory deprivation tank several times. He just relaxed and enjoyed the visions and peace of the tank.

Wow, I have a simular memory. Of a sensory deprivation tank. 3 consecutive memories of such.
One memory, I'm screaming, and pounding on the lid/ceiling, thinking they were going to drown me.
2nd, someone climbs in with me to calm me down.
3rd, I'm relaxed and feel like I'm floating in it. I didn't know what I was floating in, but someone later told me they usually use body temp high saline water, so your body floats.

I have a memory of flying over what I think are the Rocky Mountains. Large Gray Barren rock formations. Just like pictures I've seen of the Rockies.

[Bill Ryan]

Maybe you should mention the SAS. I know what SAS stands for Super Army Soldiers. They told me that themselves. They wouldn't joke about a thing like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service

That's exactly the kind of thing they would joke about. :)

I know a couple of those guys as friends. (One in the SBS, too: the Special Boat Service, the British equivalent of the SEALs.) Quiet, calm, unassuming, intelligent, totally professional, and often with a wry sense of humor.

[ponda]

He also says "God doesn't want me

Strangely enough babies and young children LOVE him and when we go shopping they are always looking at him and laughing in delight. I have 2 very young grandchildren who visited recently and their fathers are almost jealous that the children prefer to be with my husband over anyone else! Animals also are strangely very attracted to him. I'm sure they are attracted to his huge energy, which he keeps cloaked so adults won't notice him much, but children and animals are very sensitive. Lucky for me even BUGS are attracted to him so they totally ignore me and bother him! He's better than a bug zapper. LOL


Nancy :)


Hi Nancy

I wouldn't say that God has abandoned him especially if children and animals are attracted to him

[Gone002]

great info all round people, thanks to nancyv,bill and others for the info and questions.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service

That's exactly the kind of thing they would joke about. :)

I know a couple of those guys as friends. (One in the SBS, too: the Special Boat Service, the British equivalent of the SEALs.) Quiet, calm, unassuming, intelligent, totally professional, and often with a wry sense of humor.

Sorry Bill,

That was my sense of humour. I almost became one myself. In-experience and exhaustion didn't let it happen. :p

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Hi NancyV

Your now becoming the star of this thread :)
You mentioned your husband being connected to the celts which is interesting. Do you know anything about his family, parents. Does his father or mother have these abilities or any brother or sister? Is there any military history in his family.
I hope he doesn't mind us asking questions. I wouldn't like to make him angry. :unsure:

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Spirit Wolf

You are talking about people who are combat specialists with exteme psychic and physical abilties used to kill incapacitate or maim.
They are not in a circus or entertainers. I would not expect anyone to show their abilities on request.
If you really wanted to see a demonstration of these abilities you would have to be in a place or situation where you wouldn't want to be and your sphincter muscle would be going like crazy.
Sometimes you just have to look at corroborating evidence with an open mind before seeing and believing.

On the contrary, the making of such claims invites the scientific validation of such, or are you prepared to simply accept someones word for this? We had this with James Casbolt, no sorry, if such claims are made publicly, and they are claims that can easily be verified then so be it, demonstrations are called for. We should not under any circumstances take anyones word for such claims, you say you are truth seekers then kindly do so under proper conditions. I find it annoying I have been asked to provide proof of my claims thousands of times in last 16 years so I think its only right if ANY so called super soldier provides proof or shut up making such claims. Disclosure needs validation not simply accepting tales from anyone without some proof.

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Maybe you should mention the SAS. I know what SAS stands for Super Army Soldiers. They told me that themselves. They wouldn't joke about a thing like that.

Its actually Special Air Services

[NancyV]

Hi Nancy

I wouldn't say that God has abandoned him especially if children and animals are attracted to him
I agree, ponda! I think it's just a cocky saying that he began saying about himself at a pretty young age. That was long before he came to the realization that being able to be violent does not negate the ability to love and be loved.

Nancy :)

[NancyV]

Thanks, Nancy. Looks like your husband went through a lot of physical punishment.

Maybe I watched the Universal Soldier soldier series too many times, then. ;) What stood out during that show, was how those soldiers need to be injected with some type of serum to maintain their physical condition. And knowing that Hollywood is the mouthpiece of the elite, there may be some truth to that.

I was thinking something like a mixture of growth hormone, DHEA, and other hormones (for example) would be given to the soldiers periodically - Or maybe because your husband was of the first generation? (HGH therapy became "mainstream" around the year 2000).

If athletes are taking (or abusing) it all the time, I'm sure the govt does something similar with their special forces.
Actually my husband does not like to take any drugs at all and he never took them willingly. I also think these Super Soldier programs were not yet developed when he was active, although I don't know that for sure. If there were programs like this he did not know about them. His training was very extensive and he did have some advanced abilities, but I think they didn't know about most of his abilities, just that he was unbelievably good at what he did.

Nancy :)

[NancyV]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service

That's exactly the kind of thing they would joke about. :)

I know a couple of those guys as friends. (One in the SBS, too: the Special Boat Service, the British equivalent of the SEALs.) Quiet, calm, unassuming, intelligent, totally professional, and often with a wry sense of humor.
You're right and "wry" is an understatement! I call it a deliciously warped sense of humor.

Nancy :)

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

On the contrary, the making of such claims invites the scientific validation of such, or are you prepared to simply accept someones word for this? We had this with James Casbolt, no sorry, if such claims are made publicly, and they are claims that can easily be verified then so be it, demonstrations are called for. We should not under any circumstances take anyones word for such claims, you say you are truth seekers then kindly do so under proper conditions. I find it annoying I have been asked to provide proof of my claims thousands of times in last 16 years so I think its only right if ANY so called super soldier provides proof or shut up making such claims. Disclosure needs validation not simply accepting tales from anyone without some proof.

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Its actually Special Air Services

I understand what your saying Spirit Wolf but it is not as if I am just accepting anybody's word for it or what they claim.

I have seen the comments about James Casbolt but I have no idea who he is. I take it he is someone who discredited the whole thing which has made you more inclined to see proof first. Well there are people like that everywhere.

What I am trying to convey here is that these people are victims, mind controlled victims and so should be treated as such. The powers that they have are destructive and to be used in combat. Would you really volounteer yourself for a demonstration? I wouldn't.
But this is easy for me to accept more than others. I've been in the military, never met a super soldier but I've heard about them and they've been known about since the seventies. I've been researching and finding out things since then. But its only until Duncan O'finian started speaking that it is now more widely known.
Politics is getting involved with this now. More and more people are taking this to court and public apologies are being made.
If you haven't already I suggest you see some of Duncan O'finians interviews and also visit his blog. Theres lots of information there.

On a side note I've been in a situation myself which was totally beyond weird and can't explain. But I know that the ability is there for some unseen force, be it mind power, tele-kinesis, chi whatever you want to call it. That kicks in when you need it.

Oh and the SAS thing. That was me trying to be funny but never mind.

[NancyV]

On the contrary, the making of such claims invites the scientific validation of such, or are you prepared to simply accept someones word for this? We had this with James Casbolt, no sorry, if such claims are made publicly, and they are claims that can easily be verified then so be it, demonstrations are called for. We should not under any circumstances take anyones word for such claims, you say you are truth seekers then kindly do so under proper conditions. I find it annoying I have been asked to provide proof of my claims thousands of times in last 16 years so I think its only right if ANY so called super soldier provides proof or shut up making such claims. Disclosure needs validation not simply accepting tales from anyone without some proof.
Spirit Wolf,

I agree with you that believing people's tales without proof is an exercise in naivety. I do not automatically believe or disbelieve a story. I suspend my belief system unless a story seems patently absurd. Even then I have been wrong at times so I try to maintain an open mind.

Certainly it must be extremely annoying to be asked for proof and I would never have asked you or anyone else to provide proof of your stories because it IS so annoying. I would imagine that many of the super soldiers would not care to provide proof and some of them could very well be lying. But this is the world we live in, where lying is widespread and indulged in by many people.

My husband would never choose to provide proof of his adventures, although he was not in the "Super Soldier" programs, because he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him, but then he's not out to prove anything. When he wrote his book it was as a novel based on a true story, not as an autobiography, since he would not be willing to provide proof. There are those top secret confidentiality agreements that have some significance, even if one has decided to ignore them fully or partially.

It is admirable that you have provided proof and I applaud you for the way you have presented your experiences. I have very much enjoyed reading your stories!

Thank you,
Nancy :)

[Hybrid5226]

It appears the super soldier is becoming obsolete with the exo-skeleton suits that continually get upgraded .
No more breeding
No more training
Programable maybe ? suit detects incoming fire an automatically moves to the right or left.

Lots of possibilities
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U.S. researchers recently demonstrated silk-based implants, with miniscule electrodes imprinted on a silk substrate that melts away, allowing for precise placement of the electrodes. (wired magazine article)

All kinds of choices to streamline the process