How will Trump react against Syria?

[Eric J (Viking)]

How is Trump and what is he going to do about the recent chemical attack on Syria...recent TV news is suggesting he believes that Assad is involved. I am not so sure, anyway clip below from Rumor....


http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=72714

However evil Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad Assad may be, by most accounts he is a shrewd operator. So why would he order the use of horrific Sarin gas to kill innocent civilians, including scores of tiny babies only days after the United States gave clear signals that ousting him was no longer a priority? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

What makes far more sense is that the attack was a false flag intended to return the United States to its previous hard core position and quite possibly provoke an attack. Such false flag chemical attacks have been alleged before and Russian leader Vladimir Putin, who also has nothing to gain from such a gas attack, insists that this attack was not carried out by Syrian or Russian forces. If it is a false flag, it appears to be working. The usual group of saber rattlers are calling for military strikes and a visibly shaken President Trump has said that it has caused him to rethink and reverse his position on Syria and he has virtually promised a military response is coming.

As horrific as we can all agree that such a vile act took place, should we not make sure that we know the absolute truth is before we take actions that will put us into conflict with both Syria and Russia and risk destabilizing Syria to the point that another radical Muslim regime takes over which is much more hostile to the United States? The same as has happened in Libya and for awhile happened in Egypt?

While the rest of us cringe at the images of dying and suffering children, somehow I imagine members of the "Deep State" toasting drinks and giving each other high fives.

Viking

[happyuk]

I don't believe Assad is behind it either. Forget anything broadcast by the BBC it is all pro NATO anti Russian biased propaganda. They really do take us for idiots in that they think we don't see the Syria situation for the land grab that it is.

[Flowerpunkchip]

who is telling the truth?
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here is one of the comments on for this video

" Assad, a proud strong leader who leads and loves his nation, helped it prosper and advance in all areas before the war, could order his military who are brave men that joined the military​ because they love their land and countrymen and to serve and protect their own people to chemical bomb random civilians of Syria. Do you really think Assad and educated man and leader after all I just said will order the miltary to do this knowing he is winning on all fronts and the international community is slowly turning in his favor to bomb random civilians of his own country? Do you really think the Syrian army men and women after what I said above will actually sit there and plan and prepare a chemical weapon attack or military objective against a non military target of random civilians of their nation. LOL this is what these idiots actually believe. Infact these acts I describe are what America has done to its own and has used its own people for chemical testing from the 1900s onwards especially during the world wars. its all documented. With regards to this recent event in Syria and all past chemical attacks it was either

1. Terrorists alone
2. Western/Saudi/Qatari/Israeli/Turkish Intelligence
3. Terrorists with their allies of Western/Saudi/Qatar/Israeli/Turkish intelligence "

and

"the western msm has long ago lost all credibility. ironically if you want the truth you listen to RT."

and

"The BBC have really done my head in today acting like a. Assad never got rid of Syria's Chemical weapons and b. Ignoring the fact the terrorists/"rebels" have openly used and bragged about chemical weapons, running homemade labs to process Saudi provided materials (and when the video evidence is there for all to see!)."

and to balanced things, here's one last comment


"This comment board is 100% infested with russian uncivilized scum !"

[Flowerpunkchip]

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[Did You See Them]

Syria maybe making the headlines for its chem weapons - and I have no idea who to believe - I see the situation there just continuing to fester.
I am more concerned that Trump has been set up to be the President that instigates a pre-emptive conventional weapons strike against DPRK nuclear sites prompting Kim to respond with nukes against Japan - with one being allowed to get through, putting the blame on ALL radiation in the Pacific squarely on Kim's shoulders and not on the Fukushima event.

[Eram]

...recent TV news is suggesting he believes that Assad is involved. I am not so sure,



I am pretty sure that Assad isn't involved any further then perhaps the blowing up of some rebels storage of sarin gas.

A deliberate gas attack at this point in the conflict would be the absolute most stupid thing Assad could do and I don't think that Assad is a fool.

If there is anything deliberate in this gas incident, then it must be a false flag attack in order to sway public opinion in favor of a US lead intervention.

Qui bono?

[Wind]

And soon again the US government & the military industrial complex will probably do what it knows best, they'll start dropping more bombs.

Hell, I'd even wager that Trump will send more ground troops to Syria in the months to come. How will the Russians react?

[Jantje]

I was hoping Trump would not be a warmongering piece of **** but it seems like he is. Or he has been compromised I don't know, but I don't think Assad is that stupid either.
You never hear a reaction in western media coming from the Syrian government. Not an honest reaction anyway.
Let's hope this does not turn into the next world war.
This crap just won't go away, terrible...

[Honesty]

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[Innocent Warrior]

It shouldn't be difficult to determine who's responsible for the chemical attack. The military's weapons are more sophisticated and the chemical components of the military weapons and the terrorists' weapons would differ.

Published April 4th -

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Similar to 2013 chemical attack, the Western governments, and corporate mainstream media accusing the Syrian government of using chemical weapons, this time in Khan Shaykhun, in Idleb.
This video discusses the disgusting and criminal usage of chemical weapons in Syria, indicating that it is not the Syrian government but the Islamist\terrorist groups behind the attacks.

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News Sniffer shows the BBC article, "Syria chemical 'attack': Trump condemns 'affront to humanity'" has been changed nine times, the changes are telling => https://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/1357208/diff/6/7

Removed from article -


"On the territory of the depot there were workshops which produced chemical warfare munitions."
How does the Russian theory stack up?
A chemical weapons expert, Col Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, told the BBC the Russian version of events was "pretty fanciful".
The idea that a nerve gas like Sarin could spread after a weapons manufacturing process had been bombed was "unsustainable", he added.
Hasan Haj Ali, commander of the Free Idlib Army rebel group, told Reuters news agency: "Everyone saw the plane while it was bombing with gas."
However, the official who led the UN-backed operation to remove Syria's chemical weapons told the UK's Channel 4 News that the Russian version of events could not be discounted.
"If it is Sarin that was stored there and conventional munitions were used, there is every possibility that some of those [chemical] munitions were not consumed and that the Sarin liquid was ejected and could well have affected the population," Jerry Smith said.
Local journalists say there are no military positions in the town itself but an array of broadly aligned rebel groups controlling the area surrounding it.
Critics of the Russian statement say reports of the release of gas came hours before the times stated by Mr Konoshenkov.

[Helene West]

I agree with IW that it should be easy to determine whose weapons they are but that assumes the peasants will be told the truth when found out. We see the obvious, we can reason the obvious, but we will be shamelessly spun a tale or not be told anything even when an 800 lb gorilla is sitting in the room. We have no News, just prostitutes everywhere.

No way Assad did this as others have mentioned. No benefit to him. The world has had him under a microscope for a long time he's not going to do something like this.

I don't mean to trivialize anyone's pain but it's what's happening to trump that I'm more invested in. I think who or what is ruling things have made themselves known with the proverbial gun to his head. Is he now a 24/7 puppet? did they allow him some wiggle room, i.e. negotiation? Maybe something like - Give us the War we want and we'll let you have the Wall or obamacare replace or we'll keep Soro's goons from destroying the cities this summer.... Will they use him for their war and still spit him out, i.e. let the spite workers in congress call for impeachment for some stupid thing that no one else would suffer? I'm not even sure I believe there was an attack, but would it matter if there wasn't? I was never a good chess player.

[norman]

Putin is too clever to react to provocation anywhere else but Syria. Syria is where they can best chance their luck.

[Eram]

I agree with IW that it should be easy to determine whose weapons they are ...

Easy to find the fingerprint to determine who made it yes, but still in the fog of war in Syria, this might not lead to a definitive answer as to who used it.

George Webb already pointed out that US troops might have had a chance to confiscate some Syrian made sarin gas in a recent raid in Idlib, so who's to say that Sarin gas made in Syria can only be deployed by Assad?


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[Ba-ba-Ra]

Not sure where to put this George Webb video. George began researching pizzagate, which has taken him into other realms.

He begins talking about the recent Syrian chemical attack around 1:10. As most of us on PA are aware, it's all related when one begins to connect the dots and George has done a great job of connecting them for us. I hope many are following him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeHTkZ8cbYI

[AutumnW]

Same sh**, different day. Someone is responsible, but it sure isn't Assad. Pressure is being applied to both the U.S. and Russia, to give up support of Assad and continue to play the Neo-liberal great game of geo-politics. Russia had an Isis driven terrorist event right around the same time.

You had to know something was up when Tillerson did a 180degree shift in attitude towards Russia, last week.

[mojo]

It's likely he is going to release 100% proof on the source, after that its more a more difficult path to determine, but think a request to the U.N. will be made to do something.

[turiya]

My most recent post on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1144961&viewfull=1#post1144961)....

Infowars interview w/ Joel Skousen... also posted his most recent excerpt from his World Affairs Brief... Trump is surrounded by incompetents & neocons that have infiltrated into White House positions. Together with the left-over Obama bureaucraps... the same game is being played regarding Syria.

Alex has offered Joel a segment to say what he would like to say to Trump, cuz Trump does connect w/ Infowars on occasion...



Joel Skousen: The Doomsday Clock
Has Almost Run Out
(Published on Apr 6, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTnhVIzSM6s_____________________________

This Week in the World Affairs Brief:

TRUMP VS. THE BUREAUCRATS

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[Eram]

Daniel McAdams from the Ron Paul Institute thinks that a US attack on the Assad regime may be imminent.

from the website:

The alleged chemical weapon attack in Syria on Tuesday is propelling the United States toward a large-scale military attack on the Assad government. The mainstream media, neoconservatives, and “humanitarian” interventionists are creating a perfect storm pressuring President Trump to take military action.

A major US attack on Syria may be imminent!

What we know:

1) President Trump said today that “something should happen” to Syrian President Assad for the alleged attack. Yesterday be blamed the Syrian government for the attack and said that he had done a 180 degree turn on Assad, just days after his Administration stated that regime change was no longer a US priority for Assad.

2) The media is reporting that President Trump has tasked his Defense Secretary, James Mattis, to come up with a plan for a military strike on Syria

3) Our sources inside the Senate have reported that the Senate Foreign Affairs committee will soon be voting on a motion condemning Assad for the chemical attack. According to our source, rank and file Members and staff are not being given any sense of what the intelligence community thinks or knows. Leadership is expecting Members and staff to fly blind through the process, with only NGOs and the McCain/Graham/Corker axis providing the information.

What we have heard:

1) The US had a drone in the area of the attack so the US has detailed photographic and sensor information on what actually occurred but it is not being shared either with Senators or the public.

2) The President may have already ordered a massive US missile strike on Syria, possibly similar to the “shock and awe” that opened the Iraq war just over 15 years ago. He may intend to issue an Executive Order for the attack.

What we do not know:

1) How the Russians may react should the United States launch a large-scale attack on a Syrian government in which it is so deeply invested.

2) How the region (Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia) may be affected in the immediate aftermath of a large-scale US attack on Syria that displaces the current Syrian government.

3) Who will fill the void if a US attack de-facto changes the Syrian regime.

What we suspect will happen:

1) The House/Senate will pass a resolution condemning Assad for the attack which will contain vague language that could nevertheless reasonably be construed as an authorization to use military force.

2) The resolution may also contain language that gives an ultimatum to Assad, similar to those given Milosevic and Saddam Hussein immediately before an American attack.

3) Either an attack or a stand-down could occur as soon as the next few hours.

What you can do:

It is imperative to contact your Representative and Senators as well as the White House to urge that Congress and the president take no military action against Syria with virtually no information available on the attack.

Again: A large-scale US missile attack on Syria may be imminent.


http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2017/april/06/syria-crisis-update-us-attack-imminent-and-what-you-can-do/

[Atlas]

Bashar al-Assad talks to European media | March 12th 2017
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[Flowerpunkchip]

Bashar al-Assad talks to European media | March 12th 2017
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Thank you for that. The more interviews I see of him, the more I like/respect this man.
If one person told a lie about me, I would crack and be upset.
This man remains calm, polite, humble and focused.
Or am I being blind and foolish?
I hope my instincts are correct.

[daddy fishwick]

The USA has just launched two cruise missile strikes on a Syrian airfield. Fifty Tomohawk cruise missiles were launched

[Flowerpunkchip]

F***

Trump is a fool.

[norman]

The USA has just launched two cruise missile strikes on a Syrian airfield

http://drudgereport.com/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/06/us-launches-cruise-missile-strike-syria-after-chemical-weapons-attack/100142330/

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-u-s-opens-new-military-front-in-syria-1491526436-htmlstory.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-weighing-military-options-following-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria/2017/04/06/0c59603a-1ae8-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.4067ac75c727

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-launches-missiles-syrian-base-after-chemical-weapons-attack-n743636?cid=eml_nbn_20170406


There must be something in the water at the Whitehouse, what is it with these people ?

What's in their intel briefings we don't have a clue about?

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/850161531094523906


QUESTION: Are Presidential intelligence briefings nothing more than packages of manipulative lies?

[Atlas]

Trump is a fool.
Just another puppet. He's being magnanimous as he threatened to use nuclear weapons but did not:
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[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
This didn't take long...............
chancy

Link:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-something-happen-assad-u-military-studies-001519231.html


Article:
WASHINGTON/PALM BEACH, Fla. (Reuters) - U.S President Donald Trump said on Thursday he ordered a targeted military strike against an airfield in Syria from which a deadly chemical attack was launched this week.

U.S. officials said the military launched dozens of cruise missile strikes against an airbase controlled by Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad's forces in response to the chemical attack on Tuesday in a rebel-held area.

Facing his biggest foreign policy crisis since taking office in January, Trump took the toughest direct U.S. action yet in Syria's six-year-old civil war, raising the risk of confrontation with Russia and Iran, Assad's two main military backers.

Some 50 Tomahawk missiles were launched from U.S. Navy warships in the Mediterranean Sea, striking multiple targets - including the airstrip, aircraft and fuel stations - on an airbase in Homs, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Further details and damage estimates from the strikes, which were conducted at 8:45 p.m. EDT (0045 GMT Friday), were not immediately known.

Trump ordered the strikes just a day after he pointed the finger at Assad for this week's chemical attack, which killed at least 70 people, many of them children, in the Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun. The Syrian government has denied it was behind the attack.

Trump appeared to have opted for measured and targeted air attacks instead of a full-blown assault on Assad's forces and installations.

Trump, who was attending a summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping at his Florida resort, said earlier on Thursday that "something should happen" with Assad but did not specifically call for his ouster.

Officials from the Pentagon and State Department met all day to discuss plans for the missile strikes.

U.S. military action put the new president at odds with Russia, which has air and ground forces in Syria after intervening there on Assad's side in 2015 and turning the tide against mostly Sunni Muslim rebel groups.

Trump has until now focused his Syria policy almost exclusively on defeating Islamic State militants in northern Syria, where U.S. special forces are supporting Arab and Kurdish armed groups.

The risks have grown worse since 2013, when Barack Obama, Trump's predecessor, considered and then rejected ordering a cruise missile strike in response to the use of chemical weapons by Assad's loyalists.

Only last week, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said the U.S. diplomatic policy on Syria for now was no longer focused on making Assad leave power, one of Obama's aims.

But Trump said on Wednesday the gas attack in Idlib province, which sparked outrage around the world, had caused him to think again about Assad.

Speaking just before the strikes were announced, Russia's deputy U.N. envoy, Vladimir Safronkov, warned of "negative consequences" if the United States went ahead with military action, saying the blame would be “on shoulders of those who initiated such doubtful and tragic enterprise.”

The deployment of military force against Assad marked a major reversal for Trump.

Obama’s set a “red line” in 2012 against Assad’s use of chemical weapons. When Obama then threatened military action after a 2013 chemical attack, Trump issued a series of tweets opposing the idea, including “Do NOT attack Syria, fix U.S.A.”

Obama backtracked on the air strikes, and after the latest attack, Trump was quick to blame his Democratic predecessor for “weakness and irresolution” that emboldened Assad.

(Additional reporting by Phil Stewart, Yara Bayoumy, Jonathan Landay, John Walcott, Idrees Ali, David Brunstromm and Matt Spetalnick in Washington; Writing by Matt Spetalnick and Jeff Mason; Editing by Yara Bayoumy and Peter Cooney)

[Atlas]

Donald Trump is a Joke.
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[Raven]

for a different take received this email this morning:

Phoenix5 Earth Changes Bulletin
April 5, 2017 by MW Mandeville

Item: BBC News Caught Staging FAKE News Chemical Attack In Syria - YouTube

This is the third attempt by imperial agents to use a chemical attack as a false flag to excite people to violence against the people and government of Syria.
In the latest attempt, the imperial agents (Brit, Jew, and/or CIA) enticed Syria to bomb a building where ISIS had chemical weapons stored They exploded them on the street level when the Syrian bombs fell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blg9XVBUEZg

Unfortunately it worked on Donald Trump. He appears to have fallen for the claims, which frankly is very odd because it is perfectly obvious that most of the ISIS operations are highly staged, or were before the Russians came in to exterminate them, and most especially because Assad is already winning, ISIS is almost destroyed, neither he nor the Russians would have had any motivation whatsoever to stupidly use chemical poisons to kill people on the street. It would do nothing for them.

This follows shortly after Bannon (alt media tycoon and advisor to Trump) was forced out of the National Security Council which advises the President on all matters international. The NSC is now once again nearly an exclusive NEOCON club and the freedom movement libertarian loose canon, Bannon, has been "silenced".

This reveals very disturbing "Real Politik". Trump is over his head, is too distracted to think through the simple fundamentals on this, and has been pulled into the Neocon orbit. He reportedly did not read the "Ryan Healthcare Plan" which recently failed. He allowed himself, it is claimed, to be conned.

The neocon masterminds are no doubt attempting to deepen the split between the U.S. and Russia and isolate Trump from his ambition to create a peace accord with Putin. They have succeeded quite well this past two days in driving Trump away from some of his best intuitive inclinations.

Elsewhere nearly everything else appears to be chaos, lies, paranoia, or all three. Even "Pedogate" likely is partially hysterical over-reaction, but there does appear to be a widespread infection of very perverse crimes related to such.

Everything else floating in nearly all media is being distorted and grossly exaggerated or even just outright faked. The Iway free media has become confused, even Alex Jones is barking up the wrong trees (war with China and/or N. Korea).

Many people who voted for Trump are beginning to perceive that he may have the right orientation to resist the Globalists but lacks enough detailed knowledge to successfully overcome them. Thus he can be sucked in and snookered, such as he has just been conned about chemical warfare in Syria.

I expect the confusion to deepen and persist for some time. I hope he learns fast to learn faster. He needs to learn first that he is too isolated.

Best Wishes, Michael Mandeville
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[Innocent Warrior]

From the US Department of Defence -

Statement from Pentagon Spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis on U.S. strike in Syria


At the direction of the president, U.S. forces conducted a cruise missile strike against a Syrian Air Force airfield today at about 8:40 p.m. EDT (4:40 a.m., April 7, in Syria). The strike targeted Shayrat Airfield in Homs governorate, and was in response to the Syrian government's chemical weapons attack April 4 in Khan Sheikhoun, which killed or injured hundreds of innocent Syrian people, including women and children.

The strike was conducted using Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAMs) launched from the destroyers USS Porter and USS Ross in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. A total of 59 TLAMs targeted aircraft, hardened aircraft shelters, petroleum and logistical storage, ammunition supply bunkers, air defense systems, and radars. As always, the U.S. took extraordinary measures to avoid civilian casualties and to comply with the Law of Armed Conflict. Every precaution was taken to execute this strike with minimal risk to personnel at the airfield.

The strike was a proportional response to Assad's heinous act. Shayrat Airfield was used to store chemical weapons and Syrian air forces. The U.S. intelligence community assesses that aircraft from Shayrat conducted the chemical weapons attack on April 4. The strike was intended to deter the regime from using chemical weapons again.

Russian forces were notified in advance of the strike using the established deconfliction line. U.S. military planners took precautions to minimize risk to Russian or Syrian personnel located at the airfield.

We are assessing the results of the strike. Initial indications are that this strike has severely damaged or destroyed Syrian aircraft and support infrastructure and equipment at Shayrat Airfield, reducing the Syrian Government's ability to deliver chemical weapons. The use of chemical weapons against innocent people will not be tolerated.

Source. (https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/1144598/statement-from-pentagon-spokesman-capt-jeff-davis-on-us-strike-in-syria)

From RT - US fires dozens of Tomahawks at Syria military base near Homs, Trump cites ’Assad’s chem attack’ (https://www.rt.com/news/383782-us-strikes-syria-tomahawaks/)

I think Trump just walked straight into a trap, a foolish and incompetent move.

[Atlas]

Assad interview: Syrian President talks about chemical weapons attack
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[Innocent Warrior]

From The Sydney Morning Herald article, Russia accuses Donald Trump of being 'too hasty' in response to Syria gas attack (http://www.smh.com.au/world/russia-accuses-donald-trump-of-being-too-hasty-in-response-to-syria-gas-attack-20170406-gvfjuv.html)


"We would welcome a more considered approach," President Vladimir Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told reporters on Thursday.

"This is a dangerous and heinous crime, but it's hasty to put labels on it."

However Peskov added that Kremlin support for Syrian President Bashar Assad was "not unconditional".


Russia has blamed gas leaking from a rebel chemical weapons depot after it was hit by Syrian government air strikes – rather than a deliberate gas attack – a stance Syria's Foreign Ministry stood by on Thursday.

"I stress to you once again: the Syrian Army has not, did not and will not use this kind of weapons – not just against our own people but even against the terrorists that attack our civilians with their mortar rounds," Syria's Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said during a news conference in Damascus.

[Atlas]

Vladimir Putin and Bashar Al-Assad in Moscow (click on the CC tab to get the subtitltes):
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[AutumnW]

Trump and his goons are even more reprehensible than I thought. Amazing.

Assad had both the U.S. and Russia on his side, so of course he didn't do it. So Trump lets loose on Assad???

Trump is unbelievably ignorant and is relying on Eastern establishment war mongers to inform him now -- not the war mongers he was formerly listening to.

Pick your poison.

[Innocent Warrior]

Excerpt from Observer article, What to Look for if the CIA Is Plotting Against Trump

The Agency has a routine

Any CIA plot against Trump’s regime or any other government will begin and end with concerted propaganda campaigns and political intrigue. This is fundamental to every coup, because they are always trying to convince a small group of people that they can take on the entire government at once and win. In the end, coups are always rooted in psychological warfare.

The CIA-orchestrated coup in Guatemala in 1954 provides a case in point. Targeted at the freely elected government of progressive populist Jacobo Arbenz, the agency managed to use a wildly successful radio station and various other deception tactics to convince that country’s government and military that they were facing an existential threat from U.S. Marines and CIA-backed rebels.

In fact there were no Marines. And the rebels — numbering fewer than 500 — were complete military failures who never managed to capture any territory beyond small, undefended border towns.

Much broader than just a radio station, a similar program in Iran codenamed BEDAMN laid the foundation for the plot in that country. “Under the propaganda arm of BEDAMN, anti-communist articles and cartoons were planted in Iranian newspapers, books and leaflets critical of the Soviet Union and the Tudeh party [Iran’s communist-affiliated party at the time] were written and distributed, rumors were started,” political scientist Mark Gasiorowski wrote in a definitive 1987 history of the coup.

BEDAMN also involved a political arm that used “black operations” such as hiring street gangs to break up Tudeh rallies, funding right-wing political organizations and other tactics. The group also targeted the mass supporters of coalition parties in Mossadeq’s National Front political movement, stoking their specific prejudices with targeted propaganda and creating conflict within the organization.

Overt press manipulation also made a big difference. Once CIA planted stories appeared in The New York Times — and the “newspaper of record” repeatedly published such pieces — or the major papers in Latin American capitals it was only natural that other major newspapers in the region would pick them up and spread the story. That slant would then pervade elite opinion around the world.

It is in this regard that we see the see the most obvious present evidence of possible CIA machinations against Trump. CIA sources leaked surveillance of the Russian foreign minister to force the removal of Michael Flynn as national security adviser. Other sources for other key stories on this front seem to be coming from the CIA, but this one proves that at least one spy with the highest levels of access was working the press.

The more of this we see, the more we should be concerned. Most importantly — if formerly pro-Trump publications quickly turn on the president without warning or if we begin to see a great deal of very targeted propaganda clearly trying to flip Trump’s base against him or against other elements of his support structure then we should be especially concerned.

Stepping up the political plot

CIA coups depend on their political contexts. In Iran the Agency used the Shah’s constitutional powers to their advantage when they compelled him to try to remove Mossadeq by decree. After Chile’s 1973 parliamentary elections showed a major gain for Allende’s socialist coalition all hope for normal political action to sabotage his government was abandoned in favor of a coup d’etat.

Whether the politics are good or bad, the conditions on the ground determine the coup’s tactics. The strategy that unites the tactics, however, is always the same: isolate the targeted ruler. Remove their key elements of support and cultivate internal coup allies that can leave the leader weak and harassed.

In the case of Chile there was no obstacle greater in the early days of the Allende government than the commander in Chief of the Chilean Army Rene Schneider. Schneider was profoundly respected by both officers and rank and file soldiers and no fan of Allende. He was also, however, a deeply committed constitutionalist and a vocal opponent of military involvement in politics. As long as Schneider was in charge of the military there was no chance of a coup succeeding.

So Schneider had to be removed. The CIA collaborated with officers aligned with Chilean Army General Camilo Valenzuela to provide them with submachine guns, ammunition and tear gas grenades to aid their attempt to kidnap Schneider. Mere hours after transferring the weapons, however, another coup plot associated with the fascist former Chilean general Roberto VIaux killed Schneider in what appears to be a botched kidnapping attempt of their own.

While the CIA did not oversee that action, it knew of it ahead of time and ultimately paid one of the assassins $35,000 for “humanitarian reasons” according to its own historical assessment.

As for cultivating internal allies, this was the key to the Iranian coup’s success. The key leaders of the various parties in Mossadeq’s National Front were systematically paid off to turn against him. Most notable of these were the leader of the Front’s most significant Left-wing party; the populist Islamist political leader, cleric and Speaker of the Iranian Parliament Abol-Ghasem Kashani; and Iran Party leader Hussein Makki among others. One by one Mossadeq’s key political allies were corrupted, making a coup possible.

In Iran the CIA also encouraged clerics who had previously been sympathetic on the whole with Mossadeq’s oil nationalization program — if not his liberal politics — to take a more fundamentalist line and oppose the government for its toleration of the Tudeh Party.

William Blum, a long-time chronicler of U.S. imperialism, reports that the plotters underscored the effort by sending out agents provocateurs pretending to be Tudeh to attack mosques and clergymen marking “the Tudeh and, by implication, Mossadegh as being anti-religion.” Encouraging fundamentalist political Islam in Iran had negative unforeseen consequences.

In the short run, however, this strategy was important because, as CIA operatives noted in Guatemala, most of society “was neutral, apathetic or frustrated, ‘a soap opera audience.’” They did not think much about politics but if a foreign element wanted to overthrow their government, they were going to be roused to opposition.

No institution was better for securing this mushy middle of society than religious leadership.

If major religious-right figures attack Trump, it will be one of the clearest warning signs that a plot of some sort is afoot. For now the resignation of Michael Flynn and the recusal of Attorney General Jeff Sessions on the Russia scandal look very much like an Agency attempt to neutralize elements of the president’s support network.

If we see more such stories and forced resignations, we should deepen our suspicions.

The need for a viable alternative

No matter how much the CIA may hate a regime, and no matter how much havoc they wreak they cannot translate this into a change of regime without organized confederates on the ground.

In Cuba, for example, the CIA deployed hundreds of plots against the Castro regime for decades. At no point did any of them come anywhere close to toppling the regime because there has never been a significant constituency against the regime in Cuba itself.

In the countries where CIA political violence succeeded, it had not only an organized front to deliver the state, but typically also a leader capable of symbolizing the effort and consolidating power after victory. Iran was easy — the Shah already had that sort of stature. Guatemala had Castillo Armas. Chile had Augosto Pinochet.

Any CIA plot against Trump is going to be very different from these in then-isolated corners of the developing world. A large-scale plot seems unnecessary because they could easily make Vice Pres. Mike Pence their standard-bearer.

Pence took a distinctly anti-Russia position in the campaign, one that Trump himself opposed in the third presidential debate. He traveled to Europe and reassured U.S. allies of the country’s commitment to NATO even as Trump and the mainstream of his regime are making moves against the alliance.

He won’t risk the billionaire-friendly policies they like about Trump while sticking with the imperialist program now threatened by the president’s corruption.

For the CIA the choice would be very easy if they got to vote between the two, and they might have such a vote after all. Any actions by Pence or the media to draw daylight between him and Trump should be taken very seriously.

Forcing crises, showing force

As coup-backed propaganda spreads, the existing state’s isolation deepens, alternatives are empowered and new leaders emerge, the task at hand becomes simple. As a CIA cable to the White House from Chile put it, “You have asked us to provoke chaos.”

Provoking chaos means striking blows against the regime’s legitimacy. The first sort of chaos is in the streets. In Chile the CIA paid 40,000 truck drivers, urban shopkeepers and taxi drivers to strike, with bitter demonstrations giving the impression of widespread hatred for Allende’s government.

In February 1953 — six months before Mossadeq’s ouster — CIA-backed parties organized a large anti-government protest that marched on Mossadeq’s home. Pro-Mossadeq forces responded and the result was a violent clash that nearly led to the government’s collapse.

The government did fall in August after CIA operatives paid protestors to march shouting Tudeh slogans and denouncing the Shah. The fake demo brought out real party members, but provocateurs attacked patriotic symbols, stoking widespread fears among what might be called the “soap opera audience” that the communists were about to take over.

Two days later the Agency paid the cleric and speaker of the parliament Abol-Ghasem Kashani $10,000 to organize an anti-communist march, among the demonstrators were soldiers and police officers. The crowd destroyed pro-Mossadeq newspaper and political party offices before marching on Mossadeq’s home where they clashed for more than nine hours with his supporters, ending in more than 300 deaths and the prime minister’s resignation.

Chaos in the streets of this sort is amplified by formal political crises that provide a pretext for the coup’s climax. We’ve already seen how the Shah’s unprecedented dismissal of Mossadeq precipitated a constitutional crisis. In Chile the Chamber of Deputies passed a proclamation that explicitly requested military action against the administration. The parties that passed the proclamation were, of course, financed by the CIA.

There have been unprecedented protests since Trump’s election, and despite Right wing conspiracy theories claiming that all the marchers were paid, there is zero evidence for this. The demonstrations were furthermore not of the sort that would serve any CIA interests — they were for the most part peaceful and progressive, and even the more militant protests were not sufficient to seriously threaten the regime. They also came at the wrong point in time to be part of a coup plot.

Still, while outright paid protests seem hard to pull off in the era of universal media access, agents provocateurs are an ongoing reality. Ask anybody involved in Occupy demos in 2011 and they’ll be able to name specific police spies that urged illegal and violent behavior.

In Austin in 2008, an FBI snitch convinced two activists to make Molotov cocktails and other illegal weapons to take to the Republican National Convention protests that summer. Those two went to federal prison and the snitch is now an editor for Breitbart.

Provocateurs are to be expected whether George W. Bush or Barack Obama or Trump are in charge, but we might nonetheless see an increased number, sophistication or violence from them. Another danger sign will be if they are getting mixed in with right-wing groups. In recent years they have been focused on the left.

Finally, if suspected spies are allowing illegal behavior and never delivering any legal consequences this suggests that the activists aren’t the target. In that case the president may be.

One last chance for the people

Finally, in most coups there comes a moment when popular resistance gets a last ditch opportunity to push back. In Venezuela in 2002 mass demonstrations forced the short-lived coup against Hugo Chavez to surrender and flee into exile.

A similar reversal was seen just last year in Turkey when ruling class demonstrators in support of the threatened president Recep Erdogan quickly mobilized to defeat a poorly-executed coup attempt.

With regard to Trump, such an effort seems highly unlikely. His base has obstacles that prevent their mobilization. For one, they are not organized. Not only has Trump not created any lasting political institution uniting them, but these communities are not organized into any other institutions to speak of.

They are also well off, with well above average annual incomes — on average about $72,000. Few wealthy Americans will be looking to risk it all to stop Mike Pence.

Finally, they are old — voters under 40 broke strongly for Clinton, and those over 50 went largely for Trump. Insurgency is a young person’s game, and Trump’s supporters generally don’t fit that bill.

All of this should be deeply distressing because history shows that when the CIA wins, human freedom loses. Chile went nearly 20 years without elections and thousands of its citizens were tortured and killed.

Iran saw one of the world’s most brutal regimes descend upon it for more than a quarter-century before becoming a theocracy. As for Guatemala the government installed by the CIA and that regime’s successors killed over 200,000 civilians in a 36 year civil war.

If the CIA is plotting at this level — and they are at the very least rattling their sabers with leaks and perhaps other tactics — then anything that simply plucks the president out of his current office translates into victory. There are a variety of legal and extralegal means to do this — no need for bombing runs over Mar-a-Lago.

But if they do this then Pence will still need to consolidate his power and secure his legitimacy through the only means imperialists know — force. He will need to secure the support of the base that made Trump possible and suppress those elements that helped undermine the regime.

At the point that constitutional authority and normal legal and political restraint have gone out the window, this process is not one anyone can tolerate, regardless of how you feel about Trump.

For all the coups throughout history there have also been numerous times when popular resistance moved the mountains of corrupt, repressive regimes, forcing them to change or dissolve. The shortcut of a coup is no substitute for real democratic action whether that comes at the ballot box or in the streets.

History is a guide for what to watch for. Let’s hope these lessons remain academic and if they become more immediate, that we heed history’s most important lessons before we lose our chance to.

Full article HERE (http://observer.com/2017/04/cia-plotting-against-president-donald-trump-central-intelligence-agency/?utm_content=national+politics&utm_campaign=social+flow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social).

I don't agree with it all but it outlines an observable routine.

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[KiwiElf]

Same sh**, different day. Someone is responsible, but it sure isn't Assad. Pressure is being applied to both the U.S. and Russia, to give up support of Assad and continue to play the Neo-liberal great game of geo-politics. Russia had an Isis driven terrorist event right around the same time.

You had to know something was up when Tillerson did a 180degree shift in attitude towards Russia, last week.

CIA & Mossad (as before - who has the most to lose?) IMO - this is Iraq & Libya all over again. I do not believe Assad would do anything to hurt his own people... especially innocents. Another False Flag to usher in WW3... :facepalm:

[Eric J (Viking)]

It has been confirmed that Trump has instructed 50 cruise missiles at Syrian air base...well there you go just another puppet to the war machine...and the cogs get oiled yet again...now how is Putin going to react...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-launches-cruise-missiles-at-syrian-regime-airbase-in-response-to-chemical-attack-1491528268

Edit...posted in haste hadn't realized this has already been posted...didn't get past the first page... silly me. Anyway Mr Putin...now what?

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[norman]

The campaign to get rid of Trump will probably go away quietly now. This action proves that they no longer need to. He's done, stick a fork in him.

[7alon]

I don't like this. Nothing about it makes sense, I think we all know what that means.

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[Innocent Warrior]

I've come to the same conclusion as Norman.

There's no beating the CIA at their own game, only thing left to do with this is to inform (other than humanitarian aid etc.), giving knowledge is giving power.

Thankfully there are 'games' and other levels which the likes of the CIA can't win.

[norman]

Modwiz has some interesting ideas about it all:

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If Assad was in Moscow with Putin while Xi was in Florida with Trump while this happened, what's the chance this was a CIA trap?

If they can catch them out lying to the President in a high profile and awful crime like this, Trump will have massive support across the political establishment if he turns on the CIA(etc) and shuts them down.

Wishful thinking, I know, but it's all I have left.

[yelik]

This is a very sad day for the world as Trump starts to break his pledges one by one. I was initially inspired by his rhetoric  where he claimed the US would no longer impose its will on other nations and he would drain the Washington swamp of corruption. Having original cut some slack for Trump as he tried to survive,  It now seems I was mistaken as he crossed a red line for me. War and aggression should be the last stand and not a knee jerk reaction to appease the few, after all the western backed ISIS mercenaries had all but been defeated with peace talks well underway.
 
It appears Trump has fallen to the pressure of the Establishment and Elite agenda who have a thirst for war at any cost. As Trump fights to survive the wrath of the Elite we are seeing him realignment himself with the Globalist agenda or it is the beginning of the end for him.
 
Looks like the opportunity to clean the swamp is slipping away, so, back to the order of the day - more lies, deceit and greed together with more terror attacks and wars so as to justify further loss of freedoms and the New World Order agenda.
 
Unfortunately our leaders and politicians are so tightly controlled, monitored and isolated from the public that they are now effectively enemies of the state. Our leaders are so distracted by their master puppeteers as they try to keep up with the games of human chess being played against the planet and humanity.
 

[Wind]

There is a smell of esclating conflict in the air. Trump showed that he is a "tough boy" and walks his walk, but now if he would be sensible enough he would just back down a bit instead of going there guns blazing. Escalating tensions with Russia even more would be the most idiotic thing he could possibly make.

They are playing him like a damn fiddle.

[Helene West]

They are playing him like a damn fiddle.

Yes, and the 'they' continue to remain hidden from us. How can we ever defend ourselves against 'them' or build something contra to them? And since trump is already such a delicious scapegoat no one in the public domain will even be inclined to question there are a 'they'.

[Pam]

I can't help but wonder if Trump's decision to bomb was consciously or unconsciously made to compensate for his inability to make things happen in his role as president. I'm sure it was very difficult for him to appear ineffective, or possibly weak when he is used to winning. The bombing occurred after his second failure with repealing/replacing Obamacare.

The fact that he did this without going through congress is really concerning to me. This constant use of executive orders is not a good pattern to develop. I do realize that going through the traditional routes may be nearly impossible due to a very broken and corrupt system, it is still pretty scary what he has the power to do on a whim.

[Helene West]

bombing a country in compensation for setbacks to o-care? no, contrary to the spite blather of the left, his ego isn't THAT big. He is being coerced. We can only speculate as to by whom and the nature of the coercion.
This is precisely what I expected had Clinton been elected.
Just strengthens the case that who ever is running the show transcends any political party. The only difference is how it is spun to the peasantry.

[Pam]

bombing a country in compensation for setbacks to o-care? no, contrary to the spite blather of the left, his ego isn't THAT big. He is being coerced. We can only speculate as to by whom and the nature of the coercion.
This is precisely what I expected had Clinton been elected.
Just strengthens the case that who ever is running the show transcends any political party. The only difference is how it is spun to the peasantry.

I don't think that his ego/losses would be the only factor in his decision, rather a factor that contributed to the outcome. Of course, I have no way of knowing that to be true, this is pure speculation. After all, at the end of the day we are all only human and have vulnerabilities and weaknesses sometimes exhibiting compromised judgement when viewed through those lenses.

[BMJ]

Trump MAY have been compromised.
Link:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1140280&viewfull=1#post1140280

On Assad, I do think the gas attack was a false flag.

Assad and trump have alot in common.
Link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95893-Trump-The-Great-American-Reset&p=1140074&viewfull=1#post1140074

‘Another Neo-Con puppet’: Trump’s former backers jump ship after Syria airstrike
Link: https://www.rt.com/usa/383920-trump-syria-strike-reaction/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation&spot_im_comment_id=sp_6phY2k0C_383920_c_2B1nWB

I hope POTUS Trump has simply been misinformed as he was when he affirmed support for the F-35 fighter jet project.

[Hym]

When we talked about the election I rarely, if ever, talked about the possibility of change such a person might bring. I always asked How deeply corrupt does one woman candidate have to be to get an idiot like him elected? Could it just be her support and apparent forgiveness of her husband's history of abusing other women, the cold-blooded soul, or was it much bigger than that? To me it was not so much that many things would change, even things that would challenge the lies, change the lies, but how long it would take for him to be recognized as simply a different type of man to control. That time is over.

He fell for the lie, even the extreme improbability that another leader under such scrutiny-especially in a conflict he was winning, would commit such a crime against the people he sought to protect. The last piece of bait that anyone with public control of the dogs of war should take was taken and it was the bait of the emotional trigger. However, videos of children convulsing from a chemical attack are the first trigger a manipulator uses because of the deep emotional impact such a scenario creates. It is also the public cover that the whores of military profiteering offer those who present the public face of non-interventionism. Why is anyone surprised?

The big ego of a public figure was the first weakness the controllers targeted. those of evil intent and action who have always put the world of children at dire risk, those children who are always the first and last victims of the evil greed that controls all wars. The darkest of ironies is how the suffering and death of children is being used, but folks remember what humans do to satiate the demands of the energy that entices them to personally do harm to other humans. S##t you would get imprisoned for in the outer world is common food to those who live in the belly of the beast of war. They command, as if they are gods with commandments to issue, that soldiers remove their humanity. Blood lust is not a euphemism, it the energetic truth of those who feed off of war. It is even darker and more inhumane than you would think.

[Hym]

I talk here about the private conversations of those who are the human face of war because it is in their complicity and the abrogation of their duties to the "public" oath they all took to defend the principles of their country's constitution that mentally and communally absolves them of the morality those same constitutions demand. They smile and play the same song that poor soldiers do. Instead of "Johnny Be Good" they play "Donny Be Good", hoping that the man in the office keeps the profits of war going and won't learn the truth of the operation until much later, if at all. However, each group plays the same song for very different reasons.


The more the money flows and individuals in the higher echelons of the military gain personal profit, the less truth is spoken in the privacy of those in "public" service. Private contractors don't give a f###, so they don't have to worry any where near as much about telling the truth to themselves. Their temporary buffer is money. You'd know them if you heard them talk and you'd see they had no 'government oversight' to worry about. You'd get how callous they were but you'd also hear them talk about how much money they were making as their blind-mind, self-hypnosis speak goes....'At least (as the killing whore I am) I take home more for the security of my family's future'. However, they are just like the low-paid grunts when they get home and suffer the only justice their crippled souls can offer them for the killings they have done.


The truth is that soldiers feed off of adrenaline and emotional deprivation, fear and the dulling of the senses. They kill themselves at home in such large numbers because they are separated from the engineers of war who know the world as the political actuaries they are, cold, heartless m.f.er's. Even the comfort and truth of peace doesn't feed the darkness they have been trained to embrace on a glandular level. It is no match for the emotional depth war gives. Suicide is an option they don't talk about in boot camp, rape (male and female) from your own f'n troops, isn't talked about, insanity (as a result of insane commands and insane actions trying to stay sane and protect those in combat you love) is not talked about.....because it is the truth of war.


It is called being "in theater", the operational killing grounds, for an obvious reason. It is a manufactured movie of the worst sort and it is actually the reason why most movies and t.v. shows (with action scenes) are made with the lies they sell as contemporary, relatable themes, a long time now focused on independent actions of rogue nations and groups, of course supported, funded, intel-nourished and militarily guided by the largest "democracies" the planet has known. Lies can be told and sold to those who are so entrained in such deep emotional theater from their social entrainment within main stream media, movies, t.v. and video gaming. They can be lied to so much so as participants in killing that they even come prepared to be dumbed down, amped up and sent out to feed the billion dollar profits of the controllers.

[Hym]

"I have all designs inside me. The ones from heaven and the ones from hell", said Giacomo Andrea, one of Leonardo DaVinci's good friends.

Those who design wars are excited about their projects and morality, ethics and humanity, even the survival of the species, is rarely their concern. They even get degrees for the criminal training they attain. The controllers of war use words as weapons so much so it is imbedded in their training and the teaching of scientists who they use to create their weaponry. The pretense that any science has no social context is another manipulation of those who profit from it's use and hide it's innovations. They teach dishonesty and thus the opposite of any science when they exclude the ethical impact of the rewards of research findings.

When they go out to use the machinery of war they ask about the outer reach of the damage and are trained to say "How much death can we "Afford", as if they are the ones paying for the human price of war. It is not theirs to afford. They do not pay the price of injury, death and endless suffering yet they still say it in the great ignorance of their war speak, entrained to think in only terms of public perception. How much of their dark truths can they afford to keep concealed? In truth higher ranking officers are trained in all war colleges (can you imagine they call them that? and even accept that affront to humanity within the name?) to calculate the deaths of their own troops in those terms. Such are the wordsmiths of war and deception, the Dire Wolves of War, ultimately only loyal to the taste of the blood they consume.

In other non-earth-bound societies even the thought of technical achievement is always bound by it's ethical implications first, as progress is a matter of ethics in it's real world application. Those folks use their brains just a little bit more, breath a little bit deeper, hold the thoughts a little bit longer. Not so here on this little, blessed Earth. Not yet.


Martin Luther King, Jr. was killed because he opposed the war in Vietnam. The FF attack that has escalated the west's immoral support of another war was committed on the 49th anniversary of his murder. That was planned. It was an in-your-face, on-your-grave, over-your-dead-body tribute to how they killed that man of social integrity.

[thunder24]

https://gma.yahoo.com/eyewitness-says-syrian-military-anticipated-u-raid-080200931--abc-news-topstories.html

Syrian military officials appeared to anticipate Thursday night's raid on Syria's Shayrat air base, evacuating personnel and moving equipment ahead of the strike, according to an eyewitness.

Dozens of Tomahawk missiles struck the air base near Homs, damaging runways, towers and traffic control buildings, a local resident and human rights activist living near the air base told ABC News via an interpreter.

U.S. officials believe the plane that dropped chemical weapons on civilians in Idlib Province on Tuesday, which according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights killed 86 people, took off from the same air base.

The attack lasted approximately 35 minutes and its impact was felt across the city, shaking houses and sending those inside them fleeing from their windows. Firefighters responded shortly after the attack was over.

By Friday, shops were closed, traffic was flowing normally, and regime forces were back in the air base to assess the damage. A Syrian Army spokesman announced on State TV that six people were killed and several more were injured in the attack. Both of the air base's major runways were struck by missiles, and some of its 40 fortified bunkers and some out-of-service planes, parked in a hangar, were damaged as well.

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Local residents say the Russian military had used the air base in early 2016 but have since withdrawn their officers, so the base is now mainly operated by Syrian and Iranian military officers. There is also a hotel nearby where Iranian officers have been staying, though it was not clear whether it was damaged.

so they were warned...and now the people are supposed to be distracted from what while this is taking the stage???

[Atlas]

Plans were made around 1991 at the Pentagon to strike Syria, something like 25 years ago. Regrettably, there's nothing a president (aka 'a puppet') can do to stop them.

General Wesley Clark: "Those were discussions that were being held in the Pentagon a decade ago, reflecting discussions from 1991":
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[The Freedom Train]

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[norman]

After a sleep, I woke up with this in my head.

Trump obviously didn't believe the lies about a previous gas attack in Syria or he would not have had such a favorable view of Assad as he did before this week.

So, what's so 'special' about this time?

[AutumnW]

bombing a country in compensation for setbacks to o-care? no, contrary to the spite blather of the left, his ego isn't THAT big. He is being coerced. We can only speculate as to by whom and the nature of the coercion.
This is precisely what I expected had Clinton been elected.
Just strengthens the case that who ever is running the show transcends any political party. The only difference is how it is spun to the peasantry.

On the contrary, coercion is hardly necessary when dealing with this type. They are easily baited with flattery and other carrots. There is no moral fiber there, no pacing the floor at midnight wondering if the right steps have been taken. His ego is paramount in all "decision making." Plus, he's super ignorant, so can be led around by the nose. Not a scapegoat, just a goat, a complete ninny.

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I can't help but wonder if Trump's decision to bomb was consciously or unconsciously made to compensate for his inability to make things happen in his role as president. I'm sure it was very difficult for him to appear ineffective, or possibly weak when he is used to winning. The bombing occurred after his second failure with repealing/replacing Obamacare.

The fact that he did this without going through congress is really concerning to me. This constant use of executive orders is not a good pattern to develop. I do realize that going through the traditional routes may be nearly impossible due to a very broken and corrupt system, it is still pretty scary what he has the power to do on a whim.

Bang on. Good point.

[AutumnW]

After a sleep, I woke up with this in my head.

Trump obviously didn't believe the lies about a previous gas attack in Syria or he would not have had such a favorable view of Assad as he did before this week.

So, what's so 'special' about this time?

There is something in it for him to 'change his mind.'

[OmeyocaN777]

Thinking that all this happens for oil, an 100 year old technology.....it makes me sick
We still have an opportunity to overcome our stupidity for power and money and to give a change to humanity and earth to co-exist in harmony and evolve.
My only hope is that Putin and Trump are in this scenario together for various reasons.....if not....well
See you in afterlife.....game is over

[Bubu]

The only time I will believe that Trump is working against the globalist is if he stays in Russia and is protected by Putin and company or if I see RDS and company winning the coup against the deep state and providing security for Trump. The question here is ; who's gonna protect Trump against the globalist? if non then he should work for them.

".... Trump is the kind that will be converted"

[Helene West]

".... Trump is the kind that will be converted"

Bubu
May I ask who said the quote above? Thx

[Bubu]

".... Trump is the kind that will be converted"

Bubu
May I ask who said the quote above? Thx

I did :)

short post

[norman]

Trump doesn't look good when he's lying. It doesn't suit him. No one would have voted for this man:

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and God bless America..... and the entire world........



3 months ago:
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and god bless America. . . . . . . . . . . .thankyou.......godblessamerica...

[Jac0b]

I have never trusted Trump, simply because I do not trust someone that so evidently lacks compassion and empathy for other human beings - this has been very evident in his past rhetoric and actions in the business world before he was even running for president.

I guess I can understand why people wanted to vote for Trump. People want a saviour, a messiah, someone that they believe will help them from the top. No, the changes have to come from the people. Not from the top down, but from the bottom up.

No war is a step in the right direction, especially not this one. And yes, this may be a small assault, yet even here 9 civilians, including 4 children died. Must be pretty compassionate of the US to kill civilians in order for them to be spared of getting killed by gas attacks eh?

The question is still in the air whether Asaad was responsible for these attacks at all and why would he do such a thing at this point, essentially shooting himself in the foot. The timing of the attacks is incredibly convenient for the push of the warmongering cabal into a new full-fledged conflict.

But there is still hope for change and light at the end of the tunnel.

The people must help spread awareness about what is happening behind the political curtains thrown up by the media, as well as promoting compassion, empathy, respect and understanding between us. That is the only way to a free humanity. More fear, anger and the resulting actions in wars and conflicts are only polluting our planet, our society, our minds with destruction instead of compassion, peace and freedom.

If enough people speak out and this turns into a full blown conflict, it can always still be stopped. Stay strong my friends.

[7alon]

Somebody shared this on reddit. One can only hope this is the case :thumbsup:

https://i.redd.it/5tno2ijfb7qy.png

[Bubu]

Trump doesn't look good when he's lying. It doesn't suit him. No one would have voted for this man:

1ypmsgowDVM


and God bless America..... and the entire world........



3 months ago:
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and god bless America. . . . . . . . . . . .thankyou.......godblessamerica...

If he is lying then he must be coerced and/or bribe. Normally it comes with both "an offer he cannot resist". There are two ways a president who goes against the PTB, and without protection, can end up. He may become another Kennedy or converted to work for the globalist. Since I didnt see the qualities of Kennedy on Trump I predicted back then that "... he is the kind that will converted".
For awhile I have hopes that Trump plus RDS and other patriots will group together and make a move against the deep state. effectively providing Trump, and of course his family, protection. Now it seems that the take down will come from outside. Russia and China most probably. The only consolation I have is that the plan was hatch in 1991 and is supposed to conclude 1996. They are now 3 times behind. Together with other indications I will say they are into acts of desperation. So hold on things may get worst before it gets better. But its actually something I am looking forward to. There is nothing to fear its all part of evolution. my two cents.

[ghostrider]

If Asaad uses chemicals, the whole of Nato would come down on them... no way he did this to his own people... I suspect the deep state working behind the scenes, setting up Syria, for a ground invasion, 17 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, now the dark order wants and has wanted Syria for a long time... another 20 year endless war , gaining nothing for America, just enriching the weapons manufacturers and the deep state ... Russia backs Asaad, America wants him gone, a conflict with Russia is coming ... the whole situation is a powder keg...

[thunder24]

we need pictures of bombed airbase or runways or whatever, with geographical markers ... eye witness on mainstream media and eyewitness on MainStreet media for corroboration of story for the airbase/runway bombings, gas attack victims and ems that helped them, and reasons for a distraction bombing...

[David Trd1]

Somebody shared this on reddit. One can only hope this is the case :thumbsup:

https://i.redd.it/5tno2ijfb7qy.png

With a longer view and if the above is true it was nothing but a master stroke....hard to see the woods from the trees, but it has so many positives from one perspective, especially putting perceived distance between himself and Russia...I`m going to wait and see on this one..

[thunder24]

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/according-to-his-most-r-firing-59-missiles-into-syria/


Each one of the 59 Tomahawk missiles fired by the US Navy, by order of Trump, at the Syrian air base in Homs cost somewhere between $800,000 and $1.4 million — per missile. This obviously expensive surge in US military spending subsequently sent the manufacturer’s stock soaring. It also sent the Free Thought Project on an investigation into the types of stocks in which President Trump invests.
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/according-to-his-most-r-firing-59-missiles-into-syria/#V9hhPzIgPzCJ4x7r.99

However, some may not be familiar with the fact that according to the President’s most recent FEC disclosure, the Trumps actual own or have owned stock in Raytheon. That’s right, the 59 missiles, that Trump hurled at Syria — which cost taxpayers somewhere between $47 million and $82 million — could’ve actually turned a profit for the president.

The report showed that Trump also owns or has owned stock in many well-known companies including Apple, Nike, Whole Foods, Google, Philip Morris, McDonald’s, Facebook, and Morgan Stanley, among many others — including many other defense contractors who stand to make billions off Trump’s aggression.

READ MORE: Judge to Soldier: “Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society…”
It is important to note that in December of 2016, Trump spokesman, Jason Miller told The Post that Trump liquidated all of his assets. However, we’ve yet to see any proof of this and will not see any proof until at least 2018.

“We need to know, has he put them in conflict free assets … or has he bought other stocks or assets that would create new conflicts?” Norm Eisen, who served as ethics counselor to President Obama asked. “It’s all the more reason that we need a prompt and full financial disclosure. If he did liquidate all his stocks, what did he do with the money? What bank is the money in? What did he buy? It’s a lot of money.”

According to Business Insider, shares of Raytheon gained 3.54 points, a roughly 2.3 percent increase, in pre-market trading following Thursday night’s strike.


Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/according-to-his-most-r-firing-59-missiles-into-syria/#V9hhPzIgPzCJ4x7r.99

forget the obama reference and the political nonsense...look at who profited. Its still a money and numbers game...

[norman]

Red Ice TV (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFUC7NaTxZanB_FVOJN92eg)


Trump Train Derailed: Sells Out to Neocon Globalists & Attacks Syria



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Published on Apr 7, 2017
Henrik and Lana discuss Trump who now supports overthrowing Bashar al-Assad, based on claims made by terrorists that he gassed his own people.



Jay Dyer - Dissapointement of Trump Submitting to Neocon Pressure

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Published on Apr 8, 2017
Jay Dyer from jaysanalysis.com talk about Trump folding to pressure from the deep state and the neocons over Syria. Is this it, for Trump?

[onawah]

Looks like another international false flag event, and we're back to NWO globalist politics as usual.

[AutumnW]

I would not offer Trump so much latitude that I would accept he was coerced into going after Syria. To then force the whole sad narrative into a mythical Bed of Procustus that cuts off various obvious features of his personality, to turn him into a hero or a saviour isn't just twisting reality, it's mutilating it.

If he had Assad's and Russia's best intentions at heart, he would have simply told the truth...that it was premature to come to any conclusions about what happened before a full investigation had taken place.

[Atlas]

Chairman of the Syrian National Committee Faisal Mekdad: "We have no whatsoever any chemical weapons and the Syrian army has not and would never use them against our Syrian people":
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[Franny]

I'm with Ron Paul on this one

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[Yetti]

Eram I guess you nail it ! I feel the same about, we cannot trust msm at all, also how you can be sure of the gas attack was real? I know that there are thousands of Syrians living outside and some should have relatives there yet, but in a case so sensitive to the public in general, how comes nobody confirms anything? smell fishy ! to say the least. who make the count of the misiles ? , if they where launch!, if yes, they were targeted to the airport? or....? to many possible facts and outcomes to form any opinion. One thing is sure we cannot trust msm, just alternate media or personal communications via web!

[Atlas]

Tribute to Bashar al-Assad (The Greatest Leader in the Middle East)
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[Rocky_Shorz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C81jvzaXUAAMEtN.jpg:small

[Mecklenburger]

Russian Prime Minister Medvedev: "Right after Trump's election I said that all would depend on how quickly the existing machinery of power would break his election pledges. It took ten weeks." Trump has been broken by his Deep State adversaries and has agreed furthermore to their agenda of initiating total war with Russia which they actually believe they can win.

It is rumoured that about an hour before the missile attack Trump warned the Russians secretly to remove their forces from the Shayrat air base. The damage does not suggest that the base was hit by 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles. According to the Russians' objective monitoring data, only 23 missiles reached the target and the whereabouts of the other 36 are unknown. Since they are unlikely to have "missed", the probability is that Russian ground forces in Syria shot them down.

The attempt to lay the blame on Russia or Syria for the initial "chemical" attack is undoubtedly part of US policy and the probability is that whatever means actually were used either came at the instigation of the United States or the weaponry was supplied by them to the terrorists responsible.

Neutral Sweden states that the missile attack might be illegal because "authorization for the attack had not been requested from the UN Security Council, nor from US Congress, and it was not made in self-defence."

This would all be jolly good fun if it were not practically certain that it will lead to WWIII sometime in the autumn.

[onawah]

Wilkerson: Trump Attack on Syria Driven by Domestic Politics
http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/wilkerson-trump-attack-on-syria-driven-by-domestic-politics/
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Retired US Army Colonel and former chief of staff to US Secretary of State Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson weighs in on Trump’s recent bombing of Syria.

He is of the mind that the sarin gas attack was a “Gulf of Tonkin”, “Iraq WMD” hoax, as a pretense to make a strike, for the purpose of gain “higher ground” in the upcoming peace talks about Syria.

The so-called sarin “provocation” amounted to less casualties than the collateral deaths of many dozens of US attacks, including the US bombing of Mosul, in Iraq last month. He completely picks apart the official narrative about the sarin gas attack and its alleged motivation.

We also hear statements from Russia’s Deputy Ambassador to the UN, Vladimir Safronikov, who lambasts the lack of any impartial investigation of the sarin attack, who described it a “Flagrant violation of international law and an act of aggression. We strongly condemn the illegitimate actions by the US. The consequences, for regional and international stability could be extremely serious.”

Alexandra Bruce

[Pam]

I'm with Ron Paul on this one

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I am really surprised at those that talk about the Machiavellian genius of this Trump strategy. It doesn't take an ounce of common sense to realize that the whole premise of Assad gassing his own people at this time is patently ridiculous. So whether the "strategy" is good or not doesn't make a bit of difference. You just don't bomb a country when it is apparent that there is something sorely amiss here. It is the exact same scenario as the whole "weapons of mass destruction" lie. Are we that unquestioning that we are going to fall for that crap again? Ron Paul seems to be one of the only ones that still uses common sense, logic and integrity when he thinks. He is the voice of reason in a really, really corrupt insane world.

I see three possibilities here:

1) We were duped by Trump and his promises were lies to get elected just like every other candidate does. OR

2) Trump is ruled by his ego and impulsiveness and is prone to take action on an emotional whim. OR

3) Trump is being manipulated by the deep state and will do the same bidding that Hillary would have done. If this is true, it didn't take very long for him to fall into the lair.

[onawah]

Syria attack: is Trump listening to his followers anymore?
by Jon Rappoport
April 9, 2017
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/04/09/syria-attack-is-trump-listening-to-his-followers-anymore/


Trump was going to be the president of peace and non-interference. No foreign wars. No reason for the US to be policeman for the world.

This was not a minor message. Many Americans who had blown through the prison gates of the US political system when Ron Paul ran for president backed Trump, hoping for sanity.

Now what?

On top of the Syria missile attack itself, there are several reasons to believe the sarin nerve gas incident, which provoked the missile strike, was a false flag or an accident, and Syrian President Assad was blameless. But Trump said GO NOW.

It appeared President Assad, with the help of Russia and the US, was moving closer to victory against the various terrorist groups in Syria. That outcome is now in doubt.

Is it possible Trump and Putin are secretly working toward the installation of an actual democracy in Syria? If true, the missile attack was a Trump strategy to gain political support from US lawmakers, neocons, and other assorted US military-industrial complex goblins. But I’m not betting on some secret US-Russia plan.

The demotion of Trump’s special counselor Steve Bannon in recent days could have been a move to get him out of the way, before the discussion about launching the missile strike took place—because Bannon might have voiced deep opposition.

Another “benefit” from the attack on Syria: with Democrats, war-hawk Republicans, media pundits, and other assorted Beltway adrenaline junkies suddenly piling praise on Trump, the passage of an inflated federal budget for the military is quite likely. That’s a plus for defense contractors.

Arch Rockefeller Globalists, including Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, and Trilateral Commission players are now breathing a tentative sigh of relief. Trump seems to have come into their fold. He’s operating “on their turf, doing the right thing.”

All of which leaves millions of Trump supporters—the people who elected him—out in the cold. They didn’t sign on for this. The missile attack was just the sort of move Hillary Clinton would have made.

Trump surely understands this. He’s made the calculation that it doesn’t matter. Apparently, he believes he can win his supporters back.

He also understands that the US intelligence assessment of the sarin attack in Syria could have been cooked, fixed, dreamed up, based on an intentionally staged event. But he’s chosen to ignore that.

And unless he and Putin are playing a secret game in concert, having decided to install a new and improved anti-jihad secular government in Syria, Trump has pushed Putin away from any reasonable negotiating table. Here too Trump gains support from his opponents in the US, who have been shouting about Demon Russia and insisting that Putin and Trump together fixed the 2016 US election. Finally, Trump “sees the light” about Russia. Finally, he sees that Russia is backing the wrong horse in Syria. He sees that Russia is the eternal enemy of America. It’s all nonsense, of course, but Trump felt he had to get the screaming press and the majority of Congress off his back.

If so, he has miscalculated. His domestic enemies will never let up. They aim to take him down. They are dedicated to pushing him out of the White House, or at the very least, neutralizing every one of his policies during the next four years.

And again, Trump’s strength—his supporters who voted for him, who were hoping against hope that his administration would turn America in a new direction—Nationalism, not Globalism—his ultimate strength has taken a blow.

He has distanced himself from the power of those who put him in office.

A populist leader who does that is playing with fire.

He may temporarily win praise from the media echo chamber, but those echoes fade fast, and then he’ll realize he is isolated—which is exactly the position in which his opponents want him. On a mountain top, alone, his only option to embrace those he was campaigning against.

Is Trump smarter than that? Does he have hole cards no one has yet seen?

Or did he just make a fatal move, a mere 75 days after taking office?

I could spend another 5000 words detailing the people Trump has surrounded himself with, but the point is, most of them want to block him from thinking about, and talking to, the people who elected him. They want to keep him pinned to the “Washington conversation,” which is always and forever elitist. In their view, “presidential” means deaf, dumb, and blind to the wishes of the people. It’s the way politics works. That’s what sells. It sells to the media. It sells to the intelligence establishment. It sells to the briefers who tell Trump what the “inside game” is every day. It sells to people of every political persuasion, except those who want basic Nationalism.

We KNOW Trump is blind and dumb when it comes to certain aspects of life in the US. In his desire to make business the overwhelming business of America, he is willing, for example, to ignore ACTUAL environmental destruction in exactly the way George W Bush was willing. (Trump’s new EPA chief has already taken a ban of highly poisonous pesticides, Lorsban and Dursban, off the table.) We KNOW Trump is clueless when it comes to the FDA approving highly toxic medical drugs that kill huge numbers of citizens (106,000 a year, at a conservative estimate). He wants to enable FASTER FDA drug approval. That is a catastrophe in the making.

But, putting that aside, the defeat of Globalism, bringing back jobs to America, securing the borders against criminals, opposing that treacherous collection of self-entitled Globalist scum on the East Side of Manhattan called the United Nations—these are issues millions of Americans have come to understand, and they expect Trump to take decisive action.

They also expected him to refrain from launching attacks against foreign nations. They expected him to bring US troops home. They expected him to stop policing the world. They expected him to drain neocons from his inner circle.

But now, for the moment, the distance between Trump and the people who put him in office is increasing; and if a point is reached where those people no longer have faith that Trump can hear them, he is done.

He’ll be living the life of a president, like other presidents.

A shadow, remote.

Does he understand that?

Many months ago, I laid out and repeated my reasons, my ONLY reasons for favoring Trump: he was keeping Hillary Clinton out of the White House; he was mercilessly attacking mainstream news, which is the source of information mind control in America, the main obstructing force against people waking up to realities that are being hidden from them; he was gathering millions of citizens who want freedom and prosperity and an end to Globalism-Fascism-Collectivism-Socialism-Corporatism-political correctness.

I said: everything else is up for grabs.

It still is. But Trump has to understand what he is doing to his supporters—who exist as a movement independent of him.

Those supporters can check out of the Trump Hotel.

Like unhappy tourists, they can leave with a bad taste in their mouths.

They can move on.

Worst of all, they can wait for the next hopeful candidate and do nothing in the meantime.

[indigopete]

To me it's fairly obvious that this was all a co-ordinated tripartheid action involving Trump, Putin and Assad.

It's the only narrative where everything fits.

Trump is under pressure from the neocons on multiple fronts: domestic media, 'Russian Hackgate', they don't like his appeasement agenda etc. Both Assad and Russia have been successful in mitigating the ant-government forces in Syria but if Trump is seen to side with them that will just hand far too much ammunition to his adversaries. So roll-on a little chess move to alleviate the situation.

With that chemical attack, either Trump's being baited by the neocon/ISIS/Israel axis OR it was arranged conveniently with his knowledge to give him cover. Either way he's used it to purge a whole load of obstacles in one swipe and probably cleared it with Putin/Assad in advance. The Russians oblidge by getting out of the way and doing a little pretend "wardance" for the media. Assad obliges by making an airbase available for target practice and everyone comes out happy:

• Trump is now able to pursue both his ISIS purge in Syria AND his constructive foreign policy collaboration with Russia/China with impunity from the US media and his own internal enemies

• Assad gets continuity of support from Russia and a new ally in the Trump administration

• Russia consolidate their foothold in the Middle-East and gain a new ally in the US ant-deep state faction

How is this not totally obvious ?

[Rocky_Shorz]

McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

[indigopete]

Here's a post that specifically dismisses my view earlier.


Trump’s weaknesses have been identified and exploited, and he’s successfully been manipulated into neocon foreign policy like George W. Bush and Barack Obama before him. I’ve spent much of the past several months warning about exactly what happened last night, but the die is now cast. There’s no turning back from the path we’re on.


And don’t give me this garbage about Trump playing “4D chess.” Trump’s a brilliant salesman, and that’s about it. There’s nothing special or superior about Donald Trump intellectually, and he’s one of the most unwise people to ever become President. There was a hope he meant what he said about non-interventionism during the campaign, but that hope should be entirely extinguished at this point. Trump is a very weak man desperately looking for praise from those he claims to hate.



https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2017/04/07/prepare-for-impact-this-is-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-u-s-empire/

[Helene West]

What if trump didn't have much of a choice? What if we are less free than we want to imagine?

Criticizing trump implies that he has choices. By extension we feel we have choices.

The more we concentrate on trump and on all the independent or imaginary choices he supposedly has the less we will be concentrating on how powerless we really are, that would be even more uncomfortable than any disappointment in trump.
Whether it's trump, clinton, bush, obama or congress, no one is asking us anything. We just watch.

Whatever your interpretation of what transpired over the weekend it was definitely a surprise to most. I just hope we're not in for any bad financial surprises on top of political ones.

[onawah]

I think that whole article is worth reading and very prophetic if something much more unprecedented than we've seen so far doesn't interrupt the otherwise inevitable course of events, and here it is:
Prepare for Impact – This is the Beginning of the End for U.S. Empire
Michael Krieger | Posted Friday Apr 7, 2017

Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

Before I get into the meat of this post, I want to revisit something I wrote back in January.

From the post, Very Powerful People in the U.S. Government Want War – This is Their Sales Pitch:

We need to understand that those who want this war will be absolutely relentless. The sales pitch will not end until they get exactly what they want. This is where all of us critical thinkers need to play a key role. We must be prepared to diligently analyze all unsubstantiated official claims, and push back against the war-mongers, because we know for certain the oligarch-owned corporate media won’t. We must be prepared to inform our fellow citizens about what’s happening so that we don’t fall victim to a cheap sales pitch with devastating consequences. Unfortunately, we must also be prepared for a possible deep state false flag if the current sales tactic falls on deaf ears.

America cannot win a global war of such a scale if it is based on false pretenses and in the absence of exceedingly strong public support. This support does not exist. Will this serve as a necessary restraint against the masters of war and their devious plans? It’s too early to tell, but I do know that if we are unnecessarily pushed into a global conflagration, it will not end well for us. If this is the road our twisted status quo insists on taking us down, let us never forget who they are and the self-serving motivations behind their actions.

Four months later, the deep state got exactly what it wanted. Trump’s weaknesses have been identified and exploited, and he’s successfully been manipulated into neocon foreign policy like George W. Bush and Barack Obama before him. I’ve spent much of the past several months warning about exactly what happened last night, but the die is now cast. There’s no turning back from the path we’re on.


And don’t give me this garbage about Trump playing “4D chess.” Trump’s a brilliant salesman, and that’s about it. There’s nothing special or superior about Donald Trump intellectually, and he’s one of the most unwise people to ever become President. There was a hope he meant what he said about non-interventionism during the campaign, but that hope should be entirely extinguished at this point. Trump is a very weak man desperately looking for praise from those he claims to hate.

The purpose of today’s post is not to discuss what happened last night. All of you have read the news by now. My intent today is to explain what I think this means for the years ahead. I believe last night’s strike represents the beginning of the end for U.S. empire. Although the U.S. has been declining domestically for this entire century, America has still been calling all the shots on the international front. This makes sense in late-stage empire, as the focus of the fat and happy “elite” becomes singularly obsessed with domination and power, while the situation back home festers and rots.

Trump won on an “America first” platform that promised to emphasize the well-being of American citizens over geopolitical adventurism. We now know for certain he’s been manipulated into the imperial mindset, and his recklessness will merely accelerate U.S. decline on the world stage, and in turn, back home.

If anyone’s playing 4D chess it’s Russia. Russia is anti-fragile at this point, as has been proved by Putin’s survival in the face of economic sanctions, a collapsing ruble and a plunge in oil prices. Putin is still standing and arguably as powerful as ever. Not to mention the fact that the USSR completely disintegrated and collapsed within the past 30 years. They’ve been through a lot as a people. Meanwhile, the U.S. is extraordinarily fragile and weak by comparison, a distinction that will become quite obvious to us all in the years ahead. I don’t say this with any hint of glee or schadenfreude, I’m just stating the facts as I see them.

None of this implies that Russia’s leadership are a bunch of good people by any means. What I am saying is that they are a thousand times more strategic and intelligent compared to U.S. leadership.

To prove the point, this would be a good time to review a post I published back in 2014, Tensions Between the U.S. and Russia Are Worse Than You Realize – Remarks by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Here’s some of what I noted:

There are two reasons I think the following remarks by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov are so important.

First, as someone who spends much of his time analyzing and critiquing the many destructive policy decisions made by American “leaders,” I was shocked to find how accurate his description of the U.S. power structure’s mindset seems to be. He gets it, and he is more or less trying to warn the world that America’s leaders are basically power-drunk children. I concur.

Second, Lavrov also describes the negative impact that this behavior has had on the Russian psyche generally. He expresses dismay that the U.S. status quo sees the world as unipolar, and attempts to tackle every problem from the perspective that might is right. In no uncertain terms, Lavrov makes it clear that Russia will not stand for this. I don’t think the Russians are bluffing, so this is a very dangerous situation.

If there was actually someone in the U.S. State Department capable of such introspective and clear thinking, we might actually defuse this situation. Don’t hold your breath.

You should really read the entire post to see Lavrov’s comments for yourself in order to truly understand why I came to the above conclusions.

U.S. leadership is an absolute joke and will drive this entire country into a brick wall in the years ahead. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Chucky Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, are you kidding me? They remind me of George Armstrong Custer, and we all know how that turned out.

The media is even worse. In what Glenn Greenwald accurately called “one of the sickest things ever to appear on US television,” MSNBC’s Brian Williams gushed about the “beauty” of U.S. cruise missiles.

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Here’s another sign of imperial collapse, Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, in a war zone calling the shots.

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Brandy Jensen @BrandyLJensen
The Endless War Collection by J. Crew
10:42 AM - 6 Apr 2017

This is not the sort of thing you see in a confident, brave, and civilized nation, it’s the sort of stuff you’d expect to see toward the end. It’s the stuff of craven war-mongers, of dishonest cowards, of a totally deranged and very dangerous media. The signs are everywhere; imperial decline is set to accelerate rapidly in the coming years.

Fine, but how is all this going to play out? Obviously nobody really knows, but I do think we’ve entered a new period in American history. I think it’s basically a crossing of the Rubicon moment for the American empire. Personally, I don’t expect a strong and visible military response from Russia in the near-term. I don’t think Putin wants to give the U.S. media and newly minted neocon Donald Trump an excuse to do anything truly crazy, which they can blame on Russia in the court of public opinion. I think Putin is too smart for that. Rather, what I think he’ll do is make all sorts of moves behind the scenes to weaken America’s economic power, while at the same time engaging in minor provocations to tempt the imbeciles in charge of U.S. foreign policy to make further mistakes abroad, to which they’ll emphatically oblige.

In other words, Russia will attempt to make the U.S. extend itself further in a region where no real success is possible, at the same time that the American economy deteriorates further. Recall that the current very weak economic “recovery” has been going on for nearly a decade. This cycle is very long in the tooth, and all Russia really needs to do is sit back, make some moves behind the scenes and allow the U.S. to collapse upon itself in its hubris and stupidity. This is precisely what I think is going to happen.

Finally, let’s not forget the following:

Michael Krieger @LibertyBlitz
Since 9/11:
1) Non-stop war.
2) Destruction of U.S. middle class.
3) Banker bailouts
4) Death of civil liberties.
We showed 'em terrorists.

Expect more of all the above as the U.S. empire enters its most devastating phase of collapse. Think about what it might mean for you and your family and prepare accordingly.




Here's a post that specifically dismisses my view earlier.


Trump’s weaknesses have been identified and exploited, and he’s successfully been manipulated into neocon foreign policy like George W. Bush and Barack Obama before him. I’ve spent much of the past several months warning about exactly what happened last night, but the die is now cast. There’s no turning back from the path we’re on.


And don’t give me this garbage about Trump playing “4D chess.” Trump’s a brilliant salesman, and that’s about it. There’s nothing special or superior about Donald Trump intellectually, and he’s one of the most unwise people to ever become President. There was a hope he meant what he said about non-interventionism during the campaign, but that hope should be entirely extinguished at this point. Trump is a very weak man desperately looking for praise from those he claims to hate.



https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2017/04/07/prepare-for-impact-this-is-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-u-s-empire/

[ThePythonicCow]

I think that whole article is worth reading and very prophetic if something much more unprecedented than we've seen so far doesn't interrupt the otherwise inevitable course of events, and here it is:
Prepare for Impact – This is the Beginning of the End for U.S. Empire
Michael Krieger | Posted Friday Apr 7, 2017
Yes - well worth reading - excellent article. Thanks.

[xeon]

This sinister video is making a bit of the rounds. I don't think it is mere coincidence. It's like the date that Trump launched the missiles is exactly 100 years from the date the US entered WW1.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QITC5rJ6tug

It's a Star Wars movie that Trump was watching; feel free to interpret it :(

[Bubu]

remembering how trump was demonized in media the past months can only mean that the PTB really want him out. I have a feeling that this Syria bombing is an extension of the demonizing. Now the public, including project Avalon community, has every reason to want trump out of office. And since trump did not seek approval from congress and UN, its all trumps fault. not the US government or anyone else. so when trump is out every wrong doing by US gov. goes away with him. " see we are good men, we kick the bad ass out". I think the neocons want a hardcore hilary type not a converted trump. poor trump.

[Bubu]

I also want to report that our president on two separate occasions claimed in public that the US government is downloading and stockpiling arms on US military bases in the Philippines, for the past several months.

[AuCo]

If I may offer another perspective: the big boys way of greeting.
Trump beats Xi Jinping at his own game. When China can't feel the opponent's pulse - figuratively - they send out feeler.
Syria could not have made the decision for the gas attack on its own. Someone has coerced it into it. Considering the timing, with Xi coming to the US. How about we say China, indirectly, via its proxy Iran?

Trump told Xi about the missile attack right at dinner time. Suck a slap in the face! China is all about face.

This just adds great drama to Chinese history.

[Atlas]

Congressman Dennis Kucinich: No evidence Assad was behind chemical attacks
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The American people are fed up with war, but a concerted effort is being made through fearmongering, propaganda, and lies to prepare our country for a dangerous confrontation, with Russia in Syria. The demonization of Russia is a calculated plan to resurrect a raison d’être for stone-cold warriors trying to escape from the dustbin of history by evoking the specter of Russian world domination. (source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich#Military_intervention_in_Syria))

[AutumnW]

What if trump didn't have much of a choice? What if we are less free than we want to imagine?

Criticizing trump implies that he has choices. By extension we feel we have choices.

The more we concentrate on trump and on all the independent or imaginary choices he supposedly has the less we will be concentrating on how powerless we really are, that would be even more uncomfortable than any disappointment in trump.
Whether it's trump, clinton, bush, obama or congress, no one is asking us anything. We just watch.

Whatever your interpretation of what transpired over the weekend it was definitely a surprise to most. I just hope we're not in for any bad financial surprises on top of political ones.

He lied to get your vote and for narcissistic supply. He changed his main foreign policy platform to get his gang colours. What you're not getting Helene is the guy isn't a tortured human being forced to make a terrible choice. He did this easily, a complete 180. He is no better than Hillary.

[Eram]

There needs to be done research and study on how a president elect can take office and fill the necessary positions with loyalists and how to avoid the infiltration of the swamp. The "does" and don'ts"

Seriously!!

[AutumnW]

There needs to be done research and study on how a president elect can take office and fill the necessary positions with loyalists and how to avoid the infiltration of the swamp. The "does" and don'ts"

Seriously!!

What infiltration? They were and are all really creepy. They are Orcs.

[Atlas]

Joe Jamison: "What my fellow Americans think they know just ain't so"
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[AutumnW]

McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

Is there a link to verify McMasters readying all of those troops for invasion? I haven't seen anything out there.

[norman]

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Published on Apr 10, 2017
From Robert Steele - We do now know (I did not know this at the time the below video was recorded and I have no link for this, it comes to me from an inside source) that former CIA Director John Brennan plotted this false flag attack, which may have involved some real sarin allegedly destroyed during the Obama Administration, with Senator John McCain and National Security Advisor Herbert McMaster. Brennan got the Saudis to pay half and McCain got Israel to pay half. They blind-sided – this is clearly treason – not only the Director of the CIA, but the President, the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Defense. In my personal view, both John McCain and Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should be impeached by their respective legislative bodies. Whether true or not I cannot certify – it is consistent with my evaluation of each of these people, and a good starting point for an international investigation. I have long felt that John Brennan should be standing before the International Court of Justice as a war criminal, not least because of the CIA’s drone assassination program that I recently denounced in a book review article for Intelligence and National Security.

[Rocky_Shorz]

So McCains partner in crime was finally exposed on the false flag...

Today was the 3 month Anniversary of when they tried to heart attack me...

Seeing ex CIA Director Brennan exposed today is fitting...

I think the how do we make isis go away in 30 days had begun equipment rolling in, until the false flag propoganda attack happened.

Who knew Howard Dean was a swamp sucking war monger?

US confirmed with Russia Assad had no chemical weapons, abandoned airbase hit...

The false flag didn't work, ww III aborted again...

Can we pick a 20ish to run military decisions for someone with more than just months to live?

All these old codgers scare me...

[7alon]

This was uploaded last year on the 28th July.

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So could it be possible Trump doesn't know what is really going on, and giving the go on things he has been given false intelligence about?

[Gaia]

McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

Have a look my friend to this link : http://constitution.com/strange-navy-flight-pattern-spawns-hostile-submarine-fears-west-coast/

[norman]

McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

Have a look my friend to this link : http://constitution.com/strange-navy-flight-pattern-spawns-hostile-submarine-fears-west-coast/

Kameran Faily alleged that Russia and China surrounded the US with navy assets the last time the Syrian situation peaked in 2012/13. According to him, it brought about a change of approach at the very top where the hidden masters stepped in to bypass the public players who had stalled in all their efforts to keep the agenda on track. A new deal was struck with Iran, that time.

If the same chess position is being re enacted right now, my mind boggles with the severity of the implications.

[Gaia]

[QUOTE=Kameran Faily alleged that Russia and China surrounded the US with navy assets the last time the Syrian situation peaked in 2012/13. According to him, it brought about a change of approach at the very top where the hidden masters stepped in to bypass the public players who had stalled in all their efforts to keep the agenda on track. A new deal was struck with Iran, that time.

If the same chess position is being re enacted right now, my mind boggles with the severity of the implications.[/QUOTE]

Both Russia and China have been some of the strongest opponents of military action in Syria, with China even setting forth a diplomatic plan, which of course the West is completely uninterested in. Could World War 3 happen in 2017? Maybe...

Because threats from Syria, Putin, Iran, North Korea and ISIS are worse than during the Cold War.

[QUOTE=Rocky_Shorz;1145462]McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

[Rocky_Shorz]

McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

Have a look my friend to this link : http://constitution.com/strange-navy-flight-pattern-spawns-hostile-submarine-fears-west-coast/

Last night the local base suddenly unloaded 1000 at something, then silence, if North Korean subs were there, they aren't any more...

600,000 are being evacuated from North Korean capital right now...

Expecting up to 600 US Missiles followed up by an air wave, then China is in position to mop up the danger.

Good Russia knew CIAda was baiting for a counter strike...

Payback will come in a Wikileaks bombshell, another Truth Nuke, hit em where it hurts.

[Chester]

To try and bring grounding to this thread I suggest folks take the 5 minutes needed to watch this statement by Dr. Stephen Cohen -

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[Gaia]

McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

Have a look my friend to this link : http://constitution.com/strange-navy-flight-pattern-spawns-hostile-submarine-fears-west-coast/

Last night the local base suddenly unloaded 1000 at something, then silence, if North Korean subs were there, they aren't any more...

600,000 are being evacuated from North Korean capital right now...

Expecting up to 600 US Missiles followed up by an air wave, then China is in position to mop up the danger.

Good Russia knew CIAda was baiting for a counter strike...

Payback will come in a Wikileaks bombshell, another Truth Nuke, hit em where it hurts.

''Amid social media chatter of Pyongyang evacuations, North Korea told foreign journalists to prepare for a "big and important event" on Thursday (ahead of The Day of The Sun) - conjuring images of nuclear missile tests or Supreme-leader-led military drills. However, the "big and important event" turned out to be... a street opening!'' http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-13/north-koreas-big-and-important-event-street-opening :blackwidow:

[TargeT]

US denies claim by Syrian army that coalition air strike hit Isis gas supplies releasing substance that 'killed hundreds' (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-coalition-airstrike-isis-poison-gas-supplies-kill-hundred-syria-army-bashar-al-assad-chemical-a7681881.html)
The US has denied a claim by the Syrian army that American-led coalition jets launched an air strike that hit an Islamic State (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/islamic-state) chemical weapons supply, killing "hundreds including many civilians".
The accusation follows a week after Bashar al-Assad's government was accused of launching its own poison gas attack (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-chemical-attack-sarin-gas-khan-sheikhoun-assad-strike-uk-ambassador-to-un-british-scientists-a7680556.html) on Syrian civilians in Idlib province.
A statement on behalf of the Syrian army said the bombing at around 5.30pm local time (3.30pm BST) on Wednesday in the eastern Deir al-Zor province hit the terror group’s stockpile, without giving details of which toxic substance it might be.
But US Air Force Colonel John Dorrian, a spokesman for the America-led coalition, said it had carried out no air strikes in that area at the time.
"The Syrian claim is incorrect," he told Reuters, accusing the regime of deliberately spreading "misinformation".



Seems like there's lots of "he said, she said" stuff going on here, but lets remember some of the real reasons we are after Syria
http://i.imgur.com/0yhUbGb.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hey, welcome back Bud, have to admit I missed your wisdom...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0TEJxztJKQ


Rex Tillerson says Exxon is going to give $5 Billion a year for rebuilding Syria as a thanks for allowing their pipeline to run through the country.

[Atlas]

Assad interview 4/13/2017 (pending):
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[Rocky_Shorz]

McMasters is moving 150k US troops in for a ground invasion... US Troop movement into Syria was coming days before the gas attack.

The FSA Commander shot by Nusra in Idlib after the gas attack, is alive in Turkey, maybe we can hear the real story when he recovers.

Have a look my friend to this link : http://constitution.com/strange-navy-flight-pattern-spawns-hostile-submarine-fears-west-coast/

Last night the local base suddenly unloaded 1000 at something, then silence, if North Korean subs were there, they aren't any more...

600,000 are being evacuated from North Korean capital right now...

Expecting up to 600 US Missiles followed up by an air wave, then China is in position to mop up the danger.

Good Russia knew CIAda was baiting for a counter strike...

Payback will come in a Wikileaks bombshell, another Truth Nuke, hit em where it hurts.

''Amid social media chatter of Pyongyang evacuations, North Korea told foreign journalists to prepare for a "big and important event" on Thursday (ahead of The Day of The Sun) - conjuring images of nuclear missile tests or Supreme-leader-led military drills. However, the "big and important event" turned out to be... a street opening!'' http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-13/north-koreas-big-and-important-event-street-opening :blackwidow:

Twitterettes are saying the hit on isis was a Russian strike. I think they know where all the chem weapons caches are and are taking them out. if they are wicked enough to have the weapons seems kind of Karmic it takes them out. Guess we know which side the angels are on.

I was glad after Tillerson meeting to know Russia is a coalition partner again.

Ever the Optimist... 😂

[norman]

To my personal disgust, it looks like the world of international power wielding has it's own initiation ritual. Trump has been blooded now, he's one of them.

I've had two disappointments recently. The other is seeing Alex Jones tap dancing, although, in the case of Jones, I could see that coming. Trump completely surprised me. I thought he had more class than that.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Game on!!! The gloves have come off...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hedtmuFKFJA

[Rocky_Shorz]

To my personal disgust, it looks like the world of international power wielding has it's own initiation ritual. Trump has been blooded now, he's one of them.

I've had two disappointments recently. The other is seeing Alex Jones tap dancing, although, in the case of Jones, I could see that coming. Trump completely surprised me. I thought he had more class than that.

All you need to know is he notified Russia it was coming...

He didn't get replaced by a warmongering clone... yet. 😉

Don't forget, Ben mentioned Rockefeller was held in cold storage for a few months...

When they tried to kill me, I said those responsible were done...

They are listening.

Imagine Kim calling a news conference to announce declaring war on America...

15 minutes before going live, it was confirmed, all his subs were gone... Just announced a new road instead of live broadcast as his subs launched on the targets... :pound:

[norman]

. . . . . . All you need to know is he notified Russia it was coming...



16 poor sods didn't get that memo.

[KiwiElf]

US denies claim by Syrian army that coalition air strike hit Isis gas supplies releasing substance that 'killed hundreds' (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-coalition-airstrike-isis-poison-gas-supplies-kill-hundred-syria-army-bashar-al-assad-chemical-a7681881.html)
The US has denied a claim by the Syrian army that American-led coalition jets launched an air strike that hit an Islamic State (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/islamic-state) chemical weapons supply, killing "hundreds including many civilians".
The accusation follows a week after Bashar al-Assad's government was accused of launching its own poison gas attack (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-chemical-attack-sarin-gas-khan-sheikhoun-assad-strike-uk-ambassador-to-un-british-scientists-a7680556.html) on Syrian civilians in Idlib province.
A statement on behalf of the Syrian army said the bombing at around 5.30pm local time (3.30pm BST) on Wednesday in the eastern Deir al-Zor province hit the terror group’s stockpile, without giving details of which toxic substance it might be.
But US Air Force Colonel John Dorrian, a spokesman for the America-led coalition, said it had carried out no air strikes in that area at the time.
"The Syrian claim is incorrect," he told Reuters, accusing the regime of deliberately spreading "misinformation".



Seems like there's lots of "he said, she said" stuff going on here, but lets remember some of the real reasons we are after Syria
http://i.imgur.com/0yhUbGb.jpg

Welcome back, TargeT!

You know,... those "reasons" are identical to those of Libya & Iraq... ;) Funny that...

[TargeT]

. . . . . . All you need to know is he notified Russia it was coming...


16 poor sods didn't get that memo.

~94 million dollars (59 tomahawks) for 16 individuals (and excuse me if I want to see evidence of those 16 as well, I trust nothing any longer) and it didn't even destroy the two hangers that were there or the runway.....

This is clearly a case of "show", I don't like the follow on moves so far, but I'm holding out a glimmer of hope....

If you noticed the meeting between Trump and Xi, Trumps grand daughter sang a song in mandarin for Xi... it was the song of his (Xi) strongest political rival in China... the guy(Trump) makes some CRAZY sly moves at times, this could be more of that.



You know,... those "reasons" are identical to those of Libya & Iraq... ;) Funny that...

The "list" of countries that meet that criteria has shrank a LOT...

Only Three Countries Left Without a ROTHSCHILD Central Bank! (http://www.theeventchronicle.com/finanace/three-countries-left-without-rothschild-central-bank/#)

Their conquest is nearly global......... Three left!

[Atlas]

Imagine Kim calling a news conference to announce declaring war on America...
Kim has no intention to do that, he told Dennis Rodman he wanted peace back in 2013:

Dennis Rodman quoting Kim Jong Un: "He said: 'I don't want do war', he said that to me." @2:35:
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[Rocky_Shorz]

This isn't war, it's extermination... Holocaust packaged in propoganda to make it cool

Well I'm torching another veil...

Kim will give me peace, I didn't kill Rockefeller he was judged unworthy of life.

World peace is really quite simple. Do not kill and judge only yourself...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well I've done a 180 with Trump...anyone pushing the war machine is not on the right side...disappointed to say the least.

The harvest will separate the wheat from the chaff, and it would appear he has made his decision.

Viking

[Rocky_Shorz]

Is Trump beating the eardrums, (OMG, that's funny I typed wardrums,but for Trump it works) or sitting at the Luau watching the show?

He asked for a 30 day plan, the hardest part is pushing letter agencies out of the way.

I'm expecting a peaceful united Korea from this...

I want world peace for the silence to concentrate on an inbound object we'd rather not meet...

[Rocky_Shorz]

. . . . . . All you need to know is he notified Russia it was coming...



16 poor sods didn't get that memo.

Don't you hate being just outside of cell range and missing a tweet...

[Atlas]

Assad interview 4/13/2017:
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[PurpleLama]

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Dark Journalist and Dr. Farrell discussing recent geopolitical events.

[Atlas]

"Assad Threat" How They Are Brainwashing You
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[TargeT]

Another excelend distillation of the situation by Mr Corbett

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I didn't realize only 23 of the 59 tomahawks made it to the air base.... where'd the rest of em go? haha

[KiwiElf]

As Spock would say, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few... or the ONE" (and sometimes, the opposite is true)... it's a game of "chess" to be sure ;)

[Bob]

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I didn't realize only 23 of the 59 tomahawks made it to the air base.... where'd the rest of em go? haha

Corbett Report - :)

pls review this video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlzVb5xK5c


t’s official: The Corbett Report is fake news and the most unreliable source in the media. So says Le Monde and dozens of other “fake news checking” websites that are telling the masses what to think, and what they shouldn’t even look at in the first place.

I wouldn't use the corbett report as providing anything useful, except except recognizing it as carefully skilled NLP, carefully designed to guide "Alt News" and conspiriacy theorists, and keep them carefully compartmentalized with a "belief system" whereby their actions will be easily predictable. ref: http://blog.banditobooks.com/an-open-letter-to-james-corbett/

US Central Command - CentCom report Link: http://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/NEWS-ARTICLES/News-Article-View/Article/1145885/us-strike-designed-to-deter-assad-regimes-use-of-chemical-weapons/

"WASHINGTON, April 7, 2017 — The Syrian airbase targeted in yesterday’s U.S. missile strike is believed to be where Syrian President Bashar Assad regime aircraft took off for a deadly chemical attack against civilians earlier this week, senior military officials speaking on background told reporters at a Pentagon briefing today.

A battle damage assessment image of Shayrat Airfield, Syria, following U.S. missile strikes delivered by the USS Ross and USS Porter Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers, April 6, 2017. The U.S. fired 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria in retaliation for Syrian President Bashar Assad regime’s use of nerve agents to attack his own people.

The U.S. military action is meant to "deter the regime from using chemical weapons and so the proportionality is measured against that outcome," an official said. "We do not believe it's acceptable for the Syrian regime to use chemical weapons."

According to the Pentagon, hundreds of civilians were killed or injured in the April 4 chemical attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Syria.

The two senior military officials who spoke to reporters at the briefing said the Shayrat Airfield in Homs governate in Syria that was targeted by the U.S. strike has a "history" of having chemical weapons stored there.

An official said there is "high confidence" the airfield is where the Syrian regime’s aircraft took off for the April 4 attack.

'Proportional Response' to Deadly Chemical Attack

The United States also believes that a nerve agent like sarin was used in the chemical attack against the civilians, an official said.

In response to the attack, under the orders of President Donald J. Trump, the U.S. military conducted a cruise missile strike yesterday in Syria, the officials pointed out.

The U.S. strike was a "proportional response" to the chemical attack, the officials said. The airfield is in an isolated area and the strike was conducted in the early morning hours in Syria, to minimize the risk to civilians, according to the officials.

The U.S. was not tracking the airfield as an active chemical site, an official said, but the military did take precautions not to hit anything that could possibly lead to the inadvertent release of chemical munitions or chemical substances.

Syrian and Russian forces operate at that airfield, they noted. The United States notified Russia ahead of the strike, to avoid any possible misinterpretation, the officials explained.

Fifty-nine Tomahawk missiles each struck a target on the airfield, they said.

The U.S. military action is believed to have destroyed approximately 20 aircraft, the officials said. Other damage includes the destruction of surface-to-air missile systems, and the destruction or damage of targeted hangars, an official pointed out.

Hospital Struck After Chemical Attack

Shortly after the regime's chemical attack, a small, unmanned aerial vehicle -- "either [Syrian] regime or Russian" -- was seen over the local hospital as victims were being rushed there for care, an official said.

"About five hours later, the UAV returned and the hospital was struck by additional munitions," an official said.

The official pointed out the site is clearly a hospital. The United States is interested in finding out who would strike that site and why, the official said.

Russian 'Failure' to Control Syrian Activities

At a minimum, an official pointed out, the Russians "failed to control the activities of their Syrian client." Moscow had pledged after a Syrian chemical attack in 2013 that it would guarantee the removal and elimination of Syria's chemical weapons capabilities.

"We've seen Russian failure to stop the regime from barrel bomb campaigns and campaigns against innocent civilians, especially in Aleppo, but really across the opposition held areas in the country," the official said.

The official noted the United States is assessing all the information and could not "clearly say here in this forum what kind of participation the Russians might have had" in the chemical attack or associated activities."

Syria has been reported to be assisting N. Korea with reactors. Syria has been supported by the Soviet Union and Russia (later). Syria is listed as a nation supporting terrorism.

Ignoring "James Cobertt" seems like a useful exercise to keep one's mind from being NLP'd it seems to me. Many swear that he is the "alt media messiah".. OK, not me tho. I guess I am not into being programmed, not certainly by NLP.

video's: https://www.defense.gov/Video/videoid/518031/

references: US Centcom Report - http://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/NEWS-ARTICLES/News-Article-View/Article/1145885/us-strike-designed-to-deter-assad-regimes-use-of-chemical-weapons/

https://media.defense.gov/2017/Apr/07/2001728631/825/780/0/170407-N-XX999-001.JPG

[ThePythonicCow]

Ignoring "James Cobertt" seems like a useful exercise to keep one's mind from being NLP'd it seems to me.
I find James Corbett of the Corbett Report (https://www.corbettreport.com/) to be one of the best researchers and commentators out there.

[TargeT]

I find James Corbett of the Corbett Report (https://www.corbettreport.com/) to be one of the best researchers and commentators out there.

he's certainly one of the easiest to fact check, super diligent about sourcing his info & his "crowd sourced" investigations are inspiring if nothing else.


Check out this video, great research and exposure on the syria topic (video should start at 9:56) and fake news
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talks about fake news, talks about how it permiates a lot and talks about syria.. for about 4 min.

[norman]

I just discovered this interview with Bashar al Assad's wife, from October 2016.

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[Atlas]

Assad destroys western lies about 13,000 executions (interview 2-16-17):
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[Praxis]

I just came across the Rep to the UN from Netherlands . He tweeted this https://twitter.com/KvanOosterom/status/869655280543510528

It is a document claiming that tests from the chemical attack indeed come back as sarin or sarin like substance.

It doesnt seem to point fingers at anybody from my reading of the document. It merely states who they talked to, even noting that they didnt talk to the unconscious people as they were unable to field questions(which is interesting they felt the need to point this out). I still question how the people on the films and in the pictures did not take measures to protect themselves, or maybe they were told it was safe and it really was sarin done by someone, which I still dont think there is any benefit to Assad to do this so I dont think it was likely them at all, especially given the international control that stepped in the last time this happened under Obama(which watching lavrov come in after John Kerry said the now infamous statement that let syria get out of the war path was impressive).

[Innocent Warrior]

Excerpts from Politik's article, Trump's Red Line (https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905578/Trump-s-Red-Line.html), by Von Seymour M. Hersh (June 25, 2017).


The available intelligence made clear that the Syrians had targeted a jihadist meeting site on April 4 using a Russian-supplied guided bomb equipped with conventional explosives. Details of the attack, including information on its so-called high-value targets, had been provided by the Russians days in advance to American and allied military officials in Doha, whose mission is to coordinate all U.S., allied, Syrian and Russian Air Force operations in the region.

Some American military and intelligence officials were especially distressed by the president's determination to ignore the evidence. "None of this makes any sense," one officer told colleagues upon learning of the decision to bomb. "We KNOW that there was no chemical attack ... the Russians are furious. Claiming we have the real intel and know the truth ... I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.“

Within hours of the April 4 bombing, the world’s media was saturated with photographs and videos from Khan Sheikhoun. Pictures of dead and dying victims, allegedly suffering from the symptoms of nerve gas poisoning, were uploaded to social media by local activists, including the White Helmets, a first responder group known for its close association with the Syrian opposition.

The provenance of the photos was not clear and no international observers have yet inspected the site, but the immediate popular assumption worldwide was that this was a deliberate use of the nerve agent sarin, authorized by President Bashar Assad of Syria. Trump endorsed that assumption by issuing a statement within hours of the attack, describing Assad’s "heinous actions" as being a consequence of the Obama administration’s "weakness and irresolution" in addressing what he said was Syria’s past use of chemical weapons.

To the dismay of many senior members of his national security team, Trump could not be swayed over the next 48 hours of intense briefings and decision-making. In a series of interviews, I learned of the total disconnect between the president and many of his military advisers and intelligence officials, as well as officers on the ground in the region who had an entirely different understanding of the nature of Syria’s attack on Khan Sheikhoun. I was provided with evidence of that disconnect, in the form of transcripts of real-time communications, immediately following the Syrian attack on April 4.


The Execute Order governing U.S. military operations in theater, which was issued by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, provide instructions that demarcate the relationship between the American and Russian forces operating in Syria. “It’s like an ops order – ‘Here’s what you are authorized to do,’” the adviser said. “We do not share operational control with the Russians. We don’t do combined operations with them, or activities directly in support of one of their operations. But coordination is permitted. We keep each other apprised of what’s happening and within this package is the mutual exchange of intelligence. If we get a hot tip that could help the Russians do their mission, that’s coordination; and the Russians do the same for us. When we get a hot tip about a command and control facility,” the adviser added, referring to the target in Khan Sheikhoun, “we do what we can to help them act on it." “This was not a chemical weapons strike,” the adviser said. “That’s a fairy tale. If so, everyone involved in transferring, loading and arming the weapon – you’ve got to make it appear like a regular 500-pound conventional bomb – would be wearing Hazmat protective clothing in case of a leak. There would be very little chance of survival without such gear. Military grade sarin includes additives designed to increase toxicity and lethality. Every batch that comes out is maximized for death. That is why it is made. It is odorless and invisible and death can come within a minute. No cloud. Why produce a weapon that people can run away from?”

The target was struck at 6:55 a.m. on April 4, just before midnight in Washington. A Bomb Damage Assessment (BDA) by the U.S. military later determined that the heat and force of the 500-pound Syrian bomb triggered a series of secondary explosions that could have generated a huge toxic cloud that began to spread over the town, formed by the release of the fertilizers, disinfectants and other goods stored in the basement, its effect magnified by the dense morning air, which trapped the fumes close to the ground. According to intelligence estimates, the senior adviser said, the strike itself killed up to four jihadist leaders, and an unknown number of drivers and security aides. There is no confirmed count of the number of civilians killed by the poisonous gases that were released by the secondary explosions, although opposition activists reported that there were more than 80 dead, and outlets such as CNN have put the figure as high as 92. A team from Médecins Sans Frontières, treating victims from Khan Sheikhoun at a clinic 60 miles to the north, reported that “eight patients showed symptoms – including constricted pupils, muscle spasms and involuntary defecation – which are consistent with exposure to a neurotoxic agent such as sarin gas or similar compounds.” MSF also visited other hospitals that had received victims and found that patients there “smelled of bleach, suggesting that they had been exposed to chlorine.” In other words, evidence suggested that there was more than one chemical responsible for the symptoms observed, which would not have been the case if the Syrian Air Force – as opposition activists insisted – had dropped a sarin bomb, which has no percussive or ignition power to trigger secondary explosions. The range of symptoms is, however, consistent with the release of a mixture of chemicals, including chlorine and the organophosphates used in many fertilizers, which can cause neurotoxic effects similar to those of sarin.

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White House Prepares Another Chemical Weapon False Flag Attack in Syria
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Published on 28 Jun 2017

SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=23146

The White House announced on Monday that they are preparing to frame Syrian President Assad for the next chemical weapon attack in Syria, essentially giving the green light to their Al-CIA-da forces to proceed with another false flag event. So who is behind this, what is at stake, and where is the attack likely to take place? Join James for this Thought For The Day as he goes over the latest information on this false flag attack and solicits your participation in an open source investigation.

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On RT there was the suggestion that there is a degree of cooperation between the US and Russia/Syria/Iran regarding location & target information.(information sharing)

This led to the potential for the western bloc to send the other side a map reference for a building where chemicals had been illicitly stock piled. This could well be what happened last April.

If they are using this tactic - which could expand to instructing ISIS/Al Nusra to store some deadly chemicals at ALL logistic dumps and operations centres, it gets harder and harder for the Syrian air force to target the foreign terrorists without a repeat incident.

Effectively this bizarre statement, is acting as a STAND DOWN instruction to the Syrian Air Force. They are being told that they are not allowed to fight foreign sponsored insurgents in their own country. Well then , why not share MORE rather than LESS?

Why not arrange to give the USA clear information on the locations to be bombed, and the weapons that are going to be used, such as normal explosive bombs? Why not, going further, use USA observers in the Syrian Air Bases to confirm that only conventional ordnance is being loaded onto the planes? Because USA/UK would notify their ISIS allies.

PRAYING FOR WITHDRAWAL OF ALL WESTERN INVADERS AND FOREIGN JIHADIS FROM SYRIA AND THE DAWN OF PEACE