The Truth about Corey Goode

[AutumnW]

Do we really need to be so PC on this forum? Isn't is quite obvious to a person above the age of eleven, that CG's story is ridiculous and baseless? Why is that even an argument? If it is, perhaps there is a much bigger problem in this culture we need to address.

You mean New Agey type ascended master wannabes drowning everyone in bafflegab? You mean you have a problem with the type who disguise the fact they don't give a flying f*** about others by delivering high minded sermons that make zero sense?

Can't please some people!😀😀

[Bill Ryan]

Do we really need to be so PC on this forum? Isn't is quite obvious to a person above the age of eleven, that CG's story is ridiculous and baseless? Why is that even an argument? If it is, perhaps there is a much bigger problem in this culture we need to address.

You mean New Agey type ascended master wannabes drowning everyone in bafflegab? You mean you have a problem with the type who disguise the fact they don't give a flying f*** about others by delivering high minded sermons that make zero sense?

Can't please some people!😀😀

Made me laugh. Is bafflegab a word? (If not, it should be! :bigsmile: )

To newer members here (and welcome to all), there's MUCH more going on than just a few people talking to each other, usually violently agreeing — as a friend of mine loves to put it.

We have 12-15x as many guests as members, all the time, and many of those are reading this particular thread because they're visiting the forum for the first time, because of Daniel Liszt's repeated phrase 'Project Avalon's Bill Ryan'.

What that means is that the forum, and this thread in particular, are on public display. All the time.

Hence, it's smart to


Be at our best. Because Avalon's on show,
Explain things simply and clearly (and concisely!) and not drive visitors away because of signals getting lost in a ton of noise.
Not make this all look like a bunch of beer-swilling bafflegabbers telling bad jokes and sounding like YouTube commenters. :)

[RunningDeer]

Made me laugh. Is bafflegab a word? (If not, it should be! :bigsmile: )
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/reading.gif It's a new word for me, too.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/bafflegab.jpg

[Chester]

Do we really need to be so PC on this forum? Isn't is quite obvious to a person above the age of eleven, that CG's story is ridiculous and baseless? Why is that even an argument? If it is, perhaps there is a much bigger problem in this culture we need to address.

You mean New Agey type ascended master wannabes drowning everyone in bafflegab? You mean you have a problem with the type who disguise the fact they don't give a flying f*** about others by delivering high minded sermons that make zero sense?

Can't please some people!😀😀

Forgive me but I am going to send you the bill for the gut I busted! I am still laughing... unreal... bafflegab!

[BMJ]

Do we really need to be so PC on this forum? Isn't is quite obvious to a person above the age of eleven, that CG's story is ridiculous and baseless? Why is that even an argument? If it is, perhaps there is a much bigger problem in this culture we need to address.

I agree with you on this one UfonautRadio all you need is common sense, tact and politeness before voicing your thoughts.

PC only serves to disempower an individual their opinion and the ability to critical think.

[norman]

. . . . . I fear that a lot of these people will be harmed by their faith. If/when they realize that they have been conned, there will be a lot of rage and despair. And who can such people turn to for help? The mainstream will just consider them utter fools for having ever been taken in by such wild tales. The so-called ufo community will simply say "I told you so".



And quite probably produce powerful documentaries ridiculing the whole idea of thinking off the reservation.

[araucaria]

Made me laugh. Is bafflegab a word? (If not, it should be! :bigsmile: )
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/reading_zpsy3igdwax.GIF It's a new word for me, too.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/bafflegab_zpscjvmsfzl.jpg
The word ‘bafflegab’ is particularly appropriate to the present context. Since one dictionary gives the etymology of ‘baffle’ as a ‘probable alteration of Middle English (Scots) bawchillen to denounce, discredit publicly’, then the purpose of this thread might be to bafflebag the bafflegabbers. :)

[samildamach]

My thoughts on cg if I was he.
Would you not have asked for verifiable proof that you can publish from the ba ,so that you can carry there message forward knowing it can be trusted.
The proof can come in so many forms and doesn't need to be high Tec blue prints that we are not ready for.
Examples the ba language with translation would be very easy for them to do and offer absolute proof.
astronimcal information easily verified .
GPS locations of disused bases .a physical other world object such as a metal or ceramic that we can't currently manufacture .
the list goes on and I am sure there are literally millions of ways that a space fairing race could prove they excist ,
and that the message is genuine without interfering in the human evolution .
but it's not happened and it's not going to happen.cg would come up with a bs reason why it can't happen why you have to take on what he says on faith alone,while in your gut you try and accept this rubbish like a messiah preaching to the faithfull.give me a simple truth and I will listen to your message .don't give your faith or your sovereignty over to false prophets





Mod note from Bill: thanks. :thumbsup:

But please read your own posts after replying, and then edit again if needed... or maybe even before, by previewing them. This is really very hard to read, with a bunch of typos and other errors.

Do please spellcheck (mistakes are all shown in most browsers as you type, even on smartphones), add spaces between sentences, and always split large blocks of text into much smaller chunks... simple to do. THX.

:focus:

[Gemma13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiqH4bdnLvQ
Is it just me??? . . . but if anyone can stomach watching this for 20mins, (over 28,000 apparently have), do these two “show ponies” seem to be lacking “empathy”, even displaying narcissistic and sociopathic traits, especially at the part with the homeless people conversation; Excerpt: “so we try to have compassion for them” . . . even if this is meant to be satirically funny, it is in my opinion very poor taste of comedy!

Another Excerpt:
DAVID WILCOCK (DW): “Yeah you’re gonna have quite the reception when you get there I’m sure there’s a lot of people that are really looking forward to getting the chance to hear you speak and we’re gonna be helping you write that tonight to get all those slides put together.”
COREY GOODE (CG): “Thank God. I’ve been really nervous.”
DW: “This is an area where it helps to have somebody who knows what they are doing as an advisor.”
CG: “Indeed.”
DW: “And I did 5 years of conferences once a month, 17 hours of shot, and I definitely have it down and you can block it out however you want and the idea is that it’s a dance been planned material and improvisation and you kind of go into improv until you run out and then you go back to planned and you just weave between the two and keep an eye on the clock. Also another big key for conferences is you gotta build in various out points so if you end up discovering, Oh my gosh, I only got through a quarter of the slides and now it’s the end of my time, you have to structure it so that you have different ways you can get out and you have like placeholder images that you can use so that you don’t get stuck.”

CG: “And of course you have to work in at least one phallic joke right? A Shocking joke.”
DW: “Yes it’s very important to make references to your genitals at least once to explain some type of unsatisfying personal quirk about yourself therefore humanizing yourself with the audience since otherwise people will say that you’re not humble.”
CG: “No-one’s ever said that about you right?”
DW: “No, if you try to be humble they say that you have an ego. You try to have an ego and they say that you’re too humble. You can’t win.”
CG: “No you can’t win. Just like any information I put out. It’s either fear porn or hopium.”

How “on earth” does any of this fit in with their supposedly very serious “SUPREME” Blue Avian Message to Humanity??

https://www.spherebeingalliance.com/introduction

Every day focus on becoming more “Service To Others” oriented. Focus on being more “Loving” and “Focus on raising your Vibrational and Consciousness Level” and to learn to “Forgive Yourself and Others” (Thus “Releasing Karma”). This will change the Vibration of the Planet, The “Shared Consciousness of Humanity” and “Change Humanity One Person at a time” (Even if that “One Person” is yourself.). They say to treat your body as a temple and change over to a “Higher Vibrational Diet” to aid in the other changes. This sounds to many like a “Hippy Love and Peace” message that will not make a difference. I assure you the “Path” they lay out in “Their Message” is a difficult one. Even on the unlikely chance that these technologies stay “Suppressed”, imagine what a world we would live in if everyone made these changes to their selves?

The Blue Avians also gave a warning with this “Message”. They had tried to deliver this message “Three Other Times” and it had been distorted by humanity. They made it “very clear” that this information was NOT to become a “Cult or Religious Movement” nor was I to put myself (my “ego”) before the “Message” or elevate myself to a “Guru” status. Anyone who does so should be avoided and held accountable, including myself.

[Gemma13]

Does anyone know if Wilcock, Salla, GAIA Team, etc have been publicly asked whether they have sighted Corey Goode’s evidence? Corey has documented that he has evidence and that his wife Stacey has seen it, (also the family dog if memory serves but not sure if a dog whisperer would qualify for a truth reading).
How could any of these public supporters and promoters not be able to demand that Corey at least show them his photographic/video evidence?

It strikes me that any serious researcher/journalist would want to sight the evidence before putting their name and reputation on the line by promoting the claims, even if they agreed with Corey’s reasoning for not revealing it.

[Dylansdad]

These people consider verbal testimony to be evidence. They claim that such testimony would be permissible in a court of law, so there is no reason we should not just believe it. I read the book OMNIVERSE by Alfred Lambremont Webre, the self proclaimed creator of the Exopolitics Movement. The book illustrates the view that whistleblower testimony IS evidence. I burst out laughing reading this. So my answer to your question is that whatever ripping yarn these people tell is automatically evidence. I guess no one lies in their world view. To me this means that if I can come up with a really delicious complex tale of alien adventure and covert space program involvement, I too can be the new darling of Exopolitics and GAIA TV.

To kick off my new career on the fringe lecture circuit, I refer you to my Avalon avatar. There you see me (wearing sunglasses to shield my hybrid Reptilian eyes) holding my alien contact from SIRIUS the dog star. :sun:

[alexius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiqH4bdnLvQ
Is it just me??? . . . but if anyone can stomach watching this for 20mins, (over 28,000 apparently have), do these two “show ponies” seem to be lacking “empathy"

It's show business. Talking about entertainment value. Another day, another dollar like Corey said. Watching this made me sick to my stomach. Clearly these individuals are in it just for personal gain, to enjoy money and fame. Not for the best of all people that want the truth.

I honestly cant see how this video are going to be up for much longer. There is so much in it that kills the idea of these guys being serious at all. Not sure where to begin..

Did anyone else react to it in a similar way?

[Dylansdad]

Made me laugh. Is bafflegab a word? (If not, it should be! :bigsmile: )
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/reading_zpsy3igdwax.GIF It's a new word for me, too.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/bafflegab_zpscjvmsfzl.jpg
The word ‘bafflegab’ is particularly appropriate to the present context. Since one dictionary gives the etymology of ‘baffle’ as a ‘probable alteration of Middle English (Scots) bawchillen to denounce, discredit publicly’, then the purpose of this thread might be to bafflebag the bafflegabbers. :)

I believe in more traditional cultures, this is known as "gibber jabber" or the common "gibberish". But there is always room in modern English for a new word.

[Dylansdad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiqH4bdnLvQ
Is it just me??? . . . but if anyone can stomach watching this for 20mins, (over 28,000 apparently have), do these two “show ponies” seem to be lacking “empathy"

It's show business. Talking about entertainment value. Another day, another dollar like Corey said. Watching this made me sick to my stomach. Clearly these individuals are in it just for personal gain, to enjoy money and fame. Not for the best of all people that want the truth.

I honestly cant see how this video are going to be up for much longer. There is so much in it that kills the idea of these guys being serious at all. Not sure where to begin..

Did anyone else react to it in a similar way?

Seriously, I find that, as the English say, Wilcock really fancies himself. Corey is pretty much a non-entity in the personality department. But this video does not bother me. I was merely bored as Wilcock attempted to show us his wit and way around words. I saw Wilcock as a guy who has to make a buck and thinks about how to do so, e.g., $1 per $1000 clicks, but to be honest he didn't seem particularly wrong or shocking here. I am from Los Angeles also, so I actually agree that giving money to the panhandlers at red lights is NOT a wise thing to do. There are so many obvious dubious aspects to Wilcock that I don't think it strategic to come down on him for this ad hoc little car ride narrative. Save the outrage for something more substantial.

[amor]

I feel very disappointed in David W. after watching this video. What we say not only exposes the workings of the mind but of the heart; and if your heart is not in the right place, then we should not look for truth there.

[alexius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiqH4bdnLvQ
Is it just me??? . . . but if anyone can stomach watching this for 20mins, (over 28,000 apparently have), do these two “show ponies” seem to be lacking “empathy"

It's show business. Talking about entertainment value. Another day, another dollar like Corey said. Watching this made me sick to my stomach. Clearly these individuals are in it just for personal gain, to enjoy money and fame. Not for the best of all people that want the truth.

I honestly cant see how this video are going to be up for much longer. There is so much in it that kills the idea of these guys being serious at all. Not sure where to begin..

Did anyone else react to it in a similar way?

Seriously, I find that, as the English say, Wilcock really fancies himself. Corey is pretty much a non-entity in the personality department. But this video does not bother me. I was merely bored as Wilcock attempted to show us his wit and way around words. I saw Wilcock as a guy who has to make a buck and thinks about how to do so, e.g., $1 per $1000 clicks, but to be honest he didn't seem particularly wrong or shocking here. I am from Los Angeles also, so I actually agree that giving money to the panhandlers at red lights is NOT a wise thing to do. There are so many obvious dubious aspects to Wilcock that I don't think it strategic to come down on him for this ad hoc little car ride narrative. Save the outrage for something more substantial.

Thank you for aswering my question. I appologize if I came out as "outraged". I'm pretty sure that I was not on a rage when I wrote that.

Blessings

[alexius]

I feel very disappointed in David W. after watching this video. What we say not only exposes the workings of the mind but of the heart; and if your heart is not in the right place, then we should not look for truth there.

Thank you.

:flower:

[King Arthur]

Clif High has been weighing in on Corey Goode in his Twitter page
https://twitter.com/clif_high
and now he's had a lot to say in his latest podcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcORP2nN-es

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcORP2nN-es

Skip the first 25 mins when he's talking about crypto currencies.

I've transcribed most of what Clif said, bar the first few minutes

29:40 mins
It's disconcerting beyond the ripples that it's causing, ...... it's actually polluting a period of time where we are actually getting very close to some form of very realistic disclosure.
Here we have comic book Goode, space cadet Goode sweeping through the galaxy freeing the busty maiden from the slave dens
Well, it's like good theatre to a point for a diminished mind but it reminds me of these playfests over a colleges
You've got college people who are supposed to be adults and they're pimping play days for them? Safe spaces?
Something is wrong with this picture
So there's a lot wrong with Corey Goode story being promulgated by James Corey and his wife and David Wilcock and being promoted in a very slick fashion by Jay Weidner and GaiamTV
It doesn't impact me other than I've had to put in some extra filters that's caused me some extra work in my data sets
It does impact all of us in the sense that it's diverting us; taking attention away from a very key element of life at a very key time with something that is horse ****
I am actually reminded linguistically of a period of time - and this is a sort of a warning - because it's in the data that way
I don't want anybody to come to harm
I don't want Jay and even James Corey - I don't want him to come to harm.
He's obviously a troubled individual, as are we all
We're all mentally ill
But I don't want Jay or any of these guys to come to any harm
But there's a lot of linguistics here that we've got that's similar to the Aimee McPherson episode in the 1930s and people were severely damaged by that for the rest of their lives
And many lives were damaged by that episode
It's happening all over again
The language; the underlying emotional tonality of the thing even though there's no apparent connection between Aimee Semple McPherson and the Four Square Church and the abductions and all that of the 1930s, and Corey Goode's story at this point.
The data is forecasting a particular path we might be on that would suggest that would come out
So at this point, we don't have to go through that harm, guys
You guys can do something - I do not know what but you need not continue down this path
It's just sort of like fair warning
You are bringing up language that I don't think you are going to want to live with
And it's extremely disappointing too
David Wilcock's not stupid
Well, he is stupid but there's flashes of insight in there
.... He's a Janky promoter
That's how Ice Cube would describe him in a movie
"Oh yeah! David Wilcock. He's the Janky promoter fella."
And Jay Weidner is the guy in the background
He's not the money man but he's manipulating for the money men
So he isn't Mr Big Warbucks
But that's the kind of world we are dealing with here, relative to what's going on in the woo woo
This matters now as we'll all see over the next few months
It's going to be an interesting summer

Since I have never heard of Aimee McPherson, I searched and found this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30148022

It's very sad that even people who have some genuine connections with ETs have fallen for the story from these 2 guys. I suppose it's because the controllers are pressing our DNA buttons where we are genetically modified to look for an external saviour

[RunningDeer]

Clif High has been weighing in on Corey Goode in his Twitter page


fcORP2nN-es


Ouch! Clif went there in ways I'd never guess he would @ 25:06 (https://youtu.be/fcORP2nN-es?t=25m6s).


sHFv4LJWnhc

[Gemma13]

These people consider verbal testimony to be evidence. They claim that such testimony would be permissible in a court of law, so there is no reason we should not just believe it. I read the book OMNIVERSE by Alfred Lambremont Webre, the self proclaimed creator of the Exopolitics Movement. The book illustrates the view that whistleblower testimony IS evidence. I burst out laughing reading this. So my answer to your question is that whatever ripping yarn these people tell is automatically evidence.

But this Whistleblower has stated that he gets PHYSICALLY visited and extracted from his home in a bubble and HE CAN PROVE IT! And his wife according to Goode can verify this also.


https://spherebeingalliance.com/faqs FAQ Number 77:
Can you set up a camera in your bedroom to record your disappearing via the orb? Would be some serious evidence in favour of your testimony.

Corey Goode Answer:
SURE, however, it will not convince anyone of anything. I have been told that nothing I present cannot be done in "After Effects" or other software. Seeing pictures/video is not believing. They can be manipulated. You cannot even believe what you see on live TV News anymore. You can only truly trust your own personal experiences when coupled with discernment. The problem right now is not getting proof. It is preparing yourself for when you are under an avalanche of proof that is extremely troubling and disturbing in nature. This is what I am trying to prepare people for as well as providing the BA Message to also have people focus on self evolution of mind and spirit. We will not be able to tolerate the information we receive or the change in the background energy/resonance if we do not prepare ourselves in these ways.

True discernment is more than bending someone to producing video/photo's that will get more visitors to their site. This is not about "site hits". If at some point the SSP wants to start appearing in front of live tv camera's like they already have live NASA ISS feeds then that is up to them. Even these live NASA ISS feeds have been heavily debated is circular debates in forums.

What is running through my thoughts is if a reporter(s) could publically interview Wilcock, Salla, GAIA Team, etc as to whether they have sighted “the evidence” it would indirectly put the knowledge of the evidence on record. Off the top of my head two things could come from this: (1) ratings would zoom (2) if this “show” eventually goes pear shape Corey Goode would not be the only patsy hung out to dry.

And if they haven’t sighted his proof – WHY NOT!

I get how corroboration is a tool used for authenticity re whistleblower testimonies and apparently Wilcock, et al are using this re Goode’s claims, but I struggle with how they are completely avoiding the elephant in the room being Corey’s documented statements that he has proof and his wife has seen it. Surely if they have all seen “the proof” would this not provide another form of corroboration for the public?

Why hasn’t Wilcock publicly ranted: “Oh my God, I’ve seen the evidence in Corey’s home, it is mind-blowing, this is REAL, blah, blah. But because “our evidence” (now becoming Corey and GAIA’s evidence) can be tampered with we cannot release it.”
And justifying not sighting or providing the evidence because they are not after “site hits” is absurd when DISCLOSURE is the name of their game!

If this ONE QUESTION was targeted at several key stakeholder promoters of this whistleblower’s testimony:
“Have you sighted Corey’s evidence and if not why not?”
and repeatedly made, loud and clear, would it not have the potential to persuade their audience to refocus for a minute and ask some more “on the ground” logical questions rather than questions that repeatedly support promotion for the “off the ground” narrative.

Where are the reporters that vigorously follow around and get in the face of politicians, etc, in attempts to make them accountable, when ya need ‘em :idea:

[Callista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA0MLUkXgAIiT1w.jpg

[Omni]

These people consider verbal testimony to be evidence. They claim that such testimony would be permissible in a court of law, so there is no reason we should not just believe it. I read the book OMNIVERSE by Alfred Lambremont Webre, the self proclaimed creator of the Exopolitics Movement. The book illustrates the view that whistleblower testimony IS evidence. I burst out laughing reading this. So my answer to your question is that whatever ripping yarn these people tell is automatically evidence. I guess no one lies in their world view. To me this means that if I can come up with a really delicious complex tale of alien adventure and covert space program involvement, I too can be the new darling of Exopolitics and GAIA TV.

To kick off my new career on the fringe lecture circuit, I refer you to my Avalon avatar. There you see me (wearing sunglasses to shield my hybrid Reptilian eyes) holding my alien contact from SIRIUS the dog star. :sun:

It appears you don't understand what evidence really is. I agree Corey Goode's testimony is not exactly the best evidence of much(other than PSYOPS evidence). But testimony is very good evidence sometimes, and sometimes the most monstrous of crimes pass by with only a peep of testimony uttered, certainly no proof.

Here is an excerpt from my article on scientism:



Evidence Versus Proof

Many pseudo-skeptics exhibit they do not understand what evidence and proof really are. Proof is 100% verification. In other words something known to be true as a fact often based on observation. Evidence is something that leads to a conclusion. Often something gathered cumulatively to argue that something objectively happened that at the time cannot be proven. There can be evidence leading to false conclusions just as there can be evidence leading to the truth.

...

Read More: http://www.religiondebunked.com/2017/05/scientism-analysis-pseudo-skeptic-mind-virus-religion-of-science.html

I've had plenty of ignorance pointed at me saying my testimony of incredible war crimes happening to myself and others isn't evidence. I've heard people claim stuff like Ex-NSA employees saying there was 9-11 negligence isn't evidence. While i totally agree Corey's testimony of flying to Mars etc is nonsense, throwing all testimony out because there are a few bad apples might even be one of the objectives of the PSYOP.

A couple things i see with this whole charade is a manipulating of mind programming related to the word 'whistleblower', and NLP association with the word testimony now. Coincidence?

[AutumnW]

These people consider verbal testimony to be evidence. They claim that such testimony would be permissible in a court of law, so there is no reason we should not just believe it. I read the book OMNIVERSE by Alfred Lambremont Webre, the self proclaimed creator of the Exopolitics Movement. The book illustrates the view that whistleblower testimony IS evidence. I burst out laughing reading this. So my answer to your question is that whatever ripping yarn these people tell is automatically evidence.

But this Whistleblower has stated that he gets PHYSICALLY visited and extracted from his home in a bubble and HE CAN PROVE IT! And his wife according to Goode can verify this also.


https://spherebeingalliance.com/faqs FAQ Number 77:
Can you set up a camera in your bedroom to record your disappearing via the orb? Would be some serious evidence in favour of your testimony.

Corey Goode Answer:
SURE, however, it will not convince anyone of anything. I have been told that nothing I present cannot be done in "After Effects" or other software. Seeing pictures/video is not believing. They can be manipulated. You cannot even believe what you see on live TV News anymore. You can only truly trust your own personal experiences when coupled with discernment. The problem right now is not getting proof. It is preparing yourself for when you are under an avalanche of proof that is extremely troubling and disturbing in nature. This is what I am trying to prepare people for as well as providing the BA Message to also have people focus on self evolution of mind and spirit. We will not be able to tolerate the information we receive or the change in the background energy/resonance if we do not prepare ourselves in these ways.

True discernment is more than bending someone to producing video/photo's that will get more visitors to their site. This is not about "site hits". If at some point the SSP wants to start appearing in front of live tv camera's like they already have live NASA ISS feeds then that is up to them. Even these live NASA ISS feeds have been heavily debated is circular debates in forums.

What is running through my thoughts is if a reporter(s) could publically interview Wilcock, Salla, GAIA Team, etc as to whether they have sighted “the evidence” it would indirectly put the knowledge of the evidence on record. Off the top of my head two things could come from this: (1) ratings would zoom (2) if this “show” eventually goes pear shape Corey Goode would not be the only patsy hung out to dry.

And if they haven’t sighted his proof – WHY NOT!

I get how corroboration is a tool used for authenticity re whistleblower testimonies and apparently Wilcock, et al are using this re Goode’s claims, but I struggle with how they are completely avoiding the elephant in the room being Corey’s documented statements that he has proof and his wife has seen it. Surely if they have all seen “the proof” would this not provide another form of corroboration for the public?

Why hasn’t Wilcock publicly ranted: “Oh my God, I’ve seen the evidence in Corey’s home, it is mind-blowing, this is REAL, blah, blah. But because “our evidence” (now becoming Corey and GAIA’s evidence) can be tampered with we cannot release it.”
And justifying not sighting or providing the evidence because they are not after “site hits” is absurd when DISCLOSURE is the name of their game!

If this ONE QUESTION was targeted at several key stakeholder promoters of this whistleblower’s testimony:
“Have you sighted Corey’s evidence and if not why not?”
and repeatedly made, loud and clear, would it not have the potential to persuade their audience to refocus for a minute and ask some more “on the ground” logical questions rather than questions that repeatedly support promotion for the “off the ground” narrative.

Where are the reporters that vigorously follow around and get in the face of politicians, etc, in attempts to make them accountable, when ya need ‘em :idea:

Wilcock's corroboration of Corey Goode's story is not relevant in the least, anyway. Independent corroboration is what's needed, not his partner in crime backing him up or his wife. Wilcock could shout it from the roof tops or hire a skywriter to paint it on the clouds and it would still means nuthin'

[Gemma13]

Wilcock's corroboration of Corey Goode's story is not relevant in the least, anyway. Independent corroboration is what's needed, not his partner in crime backing him up or his wife. Wilcock could shout it from the roof tops or hire a skywriter to paint it on the clouds and it would still means nuthin'

Totally Agree, which is why I’m perplexed about Wilcock/GAIA’s “omission” of any corroboration, or any discussion, about Corey’s testimonies of having proof. It is this omission that speaks volumes, in my humble opinion; and if it was fervently investigated could have the potential to take this accountability campaign to a whole new level.

I haven’t watched the series. My knowledge base is from being around at the time of Corey coming out and transforming, and investigating what is freely available. So perhaps they have discussed this somewhere??? – although I have my doubts we will have commentary and/or referencing to that here as the disciples would be avoiding this thread like the plague.

To reiterate: Having a Whistleblower go on record saying they have proof isn't the norm, is it? So why aren't people all over this. Why is logical reasoning thrown out the door because of a "not so clever" illogicality as to why it cannot be produced.

[Praxis]

Clif High discusses Corey Goode and Wilcock in this video at around 26 minutes.
He says Corey isnt his real name?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcORP2nN-es

[Callista]

Apparently his name is James Corey.

[norman]

Apparently his name is James Corey.

Time for a new thread then.

Called "The Truth about James Corey".

[Callista]

Interesting how the use of the word "Goode" brings certain connotations to the human mind...

[sunwings]

Corey released a new Vlog today. Part 1 about his spring break to Hawaii. :facepalm:

1. Corey and his family are flown business class to Hawaii to speak to about 30 poeple :plane:
2. Corey admits to drinking too much and smashing his arm and spraining his wrist:beer:
3. Blue Avians tell him to cut out the drink via a download in Hawaii:ufo:
4. Family go off to swim with dolphins:bigfish:
5. Salla and Basiago are there too in full Hawaiian shirts :grouphug:
6. Pass the sick bucket:smash:

nREa0dNwJ5U

[PurpleLama]

Interesting how the use of the word "Goode" brings certain connotations to the human mind...

His full name is James Corey Goode.

[King Arthur]

Ouch! Clif went there in ways I'd never guess he would @ 25:06 (https://youtu.be/fcORP2nN-es?t=25m6s).


I did not transcribe the very end of Clif's podcast where he challenged Goode, Wilcock and Weidner to come and fight it out at his local dojo. And I'm sure the software here will censor his closing msg....... :)

[Clear Light]

Gosh ! It's a brilliant story ... not only was he taken "off planet" to begin his 20 years "service" (whilst attending Richardson High School (https://www.allhighschools.com/alumni-search/richardson-high-school/corey-goode/572173) at around 16/17 years old), he apparently "accepted a new existence outside of the space/time of Earth"


EXOPOLITICS.ORG Recruitment & Covert Service for Secret Space Programs (http://exopolitics.org/recruitment-covert-service-for-secret-space-programs/)

There were no communications from Earth (no one knew you were gone), No News Reports, No phone calls, no emails (didn’t exist “On Earth” when we “Left”), No Internet. We were totally isolated in our own “Reality Bubbles”. We didn’t even have photos of family hanging anywhere. We accepted a new existence outside of the space/time of Earth. So at the end of the “Tour” there was no compromising information. We ALL knew we were to be “Blank-Slated”, Time-Regressed to our prior state

Which is just the perfect Cover Story to explain how he could be magically time transported back to almost the exact same moment after his service was up, as if the "rest of the world" didn't itself carry on "with life" during those same 20 years eh ?

So I'd say not only is he claiming there is an SSP which is capable of extremely precise time-transportation, he is also implying there are multiple Space/Time "dimensions" to which this SSP has control over !!!

[Shadowself]

This belongs here too:

James Corey Goode...Shame on you!

This is quite unusual but I think Daniel, Bill and others are on the right track. This just in from Corey's FB page. A link for children and how to prepare them for what? This is taking a developing mind and really putting the screws to it in my opinion. Preparing them or scaring them for life? You decide what a healthy childhood should look like. A disclosure backpack for children....take a look!

http://disclosurebackpack.com/earth-alliance-chevron-craft-paper-airplane/

http://disclosurebackpack.com/unity-inner-earth-a-cooperative-board-game/

I'm appalled and wondering if child services should start looking into these folks...this is close to child abuse and endangerment.

Adding:

As a parent you want to protect your child from violence at all costs. This is why you don't let them watch violent movies and such. But here Corey and Co. Inc.....have developed a game and play toys surrounded in violence and a story that suggests they should beware of danger. Something as a parent you try to protect your child from in the first place.

Only a damned fool would subject their children to that BS! As I said before Corey Goode is morally bankrupt and is subjecting his children everyday to this. His children are prominently featured on his blog video series and I wonder how they cope as children who would probably want nothing more than a normal childhood where they could go to school and play with other children and not have to be so involved in the Cory fantasy he is profiting on.

There will come a time when other children will see what they are involved in and start to most likely harass them on the school grounds....What then Cory? Did that thought arise in your self indulged plans?

I would never in a million years subject my children to this ever! Yet he preaches service to self vs service to others? What about your children Corey? Did they sign up for this anything other than normal life you're giving them? Those games you are promoting contain violence...and you will definitely not get parent of the year award for this little stunt!

[King Arthur]

What I took from Clif's podcast is that something real of great significance to humanity is about to happen and this Goode/Wilcock dog and pony show is to distract us from that. And this would appear to be the reason Clif is weighing in so heavily on this horsesh*t - as part of the human collective, he is being hurt by their antics

We need to pull together and look at whatever truth is about to be disclosed. There's some really good people who have been captivated by these 2, who will be trashed by the backlash that will ensue. I know a good friend of Joan Ocean. Joan seems to be a starseed with genuine ET contacts but her discernment is not as good as it should be.

I was listening to an old interview with Diana Luppi and she said the enemy is brilliant at what it does. It's no klutz and it is brilliant at what it does. It can't create while we can. So what it does is infiltrate whatever we do and destroy whatever we are trying to achieve. We cultivate a beautiful garden and it gets in, craps all over the plants, chew up our flowers, digs up our vegetable patch.....

What Luppi said is that we are part of a galactic confederation. But we kinda got lost (maybe she meant we got invaded and lost our memories of who we are) and the ETs are waiting for us to wake up and re-join them. Presumably they're our off planet friends/allies/families

[King Arthur]

I am not responsible for what others do but like Clif, I will give fair warning. There are cabal agents here in this forum. It would be beyond belief to say this forum has not been infiltrated. So I shall tell you what I think, though I could well be wrong.

This school is closing down. Humanity is about to make a huge spiritual/evolutionary/whatever leap forward. Some will be left behind - they can't make it and this is because of the choices they have made. Those who do not wake up are condemning themselves to reincarnating again and again in this mad house until they learn their lessons. Only when the lessons have been learned, when they stop repeating those mistakes, will they be free of that cycle. Think Groundhog Day. This applies even to those starseeds who came to help humanity. These guys agreed to take on human dysfunctionalities with the intention of waking up and transmuting those issues, for by healing themselves of the problems they had taken on, they heal the world. Many starseeds do not understand this. Many of those who wake up want to go on missions to fight this and that and the other. No, their first and most important task is to heal themselves. Only after that is done can they tackle successfully whatever missions they think they have. Healing is of the utmost importance and yet many turn their noses up on this. The enemy knows our weaknesses. It has studied each of us in order to identify our individual vulnerabilities. And it uses that knowledge to tailor its attacks. We all have weaknessness and vulnerabilities. Our defence is to heal ourselves for by doing so, we close off our vulnerabilities and strenghten our weaknesses.

Suppose you are a boxer who has to go into the ring for a bout. You get pounded and lose the fight. And when asked how you came to lose, you say that the other guy hit you and knocked you out. It was because of the other guy. What you need to do is prepare yourself for the fight to such an extant that when hit, you are strong enough to take the blows and instead, take the other guy out.

Right now, we are in the transition period. Everyone is welcome back even those who have sold their souls to the enemy but they must work for it. Healing, forgiveness and clemency from God is available to even the most evil of beings. The only condition is that she/he/it has to work to undo the wrongs it has done. Yes, even if you are one of those baby raping, blood guzzling, humanity betraying people or higher dimensional beings, you too can find yourself on the path back to God. Ask God for healing, forgiveness and clemency. You will be expected to clean up the mess you made. God will not interfere with what gets meted out by your peers but on the soul level, this is a big step in the right direction. I understand that this window of opportunity will not be open forever. While it's true that every soul can always find its way back to God, it is far easier to go through a wide open door now than to wait for a later time when the door may be closed or barely ajar when much greater effort will be needed to open it in order to walk through

Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1aOCL9DE8g
11:38 mins
So it's only our immune system that is under attack physically, our spiritual immune system is under attack

11:53
LW: Most people aren't aware of that
When you start to talk about it or share that info with someone who is not ready to receive it, they think you are insane

DL: They are pretty much asleep to what's going on
They're so brainwashed that they don't even know they're brainwashed
Everyone is brainwashed to some degree because that's what it is to live here
I don't know how the cut goes - how many make it and how many don't
If someone don't make it, it's just simply that they get to repeat this
To me that's a fate worse than death - the idea that I get recycled doing this?
Are you kidding? This is like ambulatory insanity....


Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnHNJFJuBo

6:14
It's been a long battle
Not only here
Part of the thing about the timing when everything finally comes around is that you're in a matrix that's much greater (I was shown it once - the mathematics on this which we are standing)
Because it's isn't just this planet that's going to be graduating on this particular round,
This is a cosmic event of great magnitude .......
They showed me the maths on it once and I was staggered
It wasn't even a map like we do it
It was like this holographic picture of all these carbs(?) and wheels and interconnections all of which have you synched completely with one another and they were there
And I went, "Wow! No wonder."
This has got to be absolutely precise
There's no fudge on this one
Part of our impatience here is because many of us have been waiting for a long time now

[RunningDeer]

It was like this holographic picture of all these carbs(?) and wheels and interconnections all of which have you synched completely with one another and they were there


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/cog.jpg

[Dylansdad]

I am not responsible for what others do but like Clif, I will give fair warning. There are cabal agents here in this forum. It would be beyond belief to say this forum has not been infiltrated. So I shall tell you what I think, though I could well be wrong.

This school is closing down. Humanity is about to make a huge spiritual/evolutionary/whatever leap forward. Some will be left behind - they can't make it and this is because of the choices they have made. Those who do not wake up are condemning themselves to reincarnating again and again in this mad house until they learn their lessons. Only when the lessons have been learned, when they stop repeating those mistakes, will they be free of that cycle. Think Groundhog Day. This applies even to those starseeds who came to help humanity. These guys agreed to take on human dysfunctionalities with the intention of waking up and transmuting those issues, for by healing themselves of the problems they had taken on, they heal the world. Many starseeds do not understand this. Many of those who wake up want to go on missions to fight this and that and the other. No, their first and most important task is to heal themselves. Only after that is done can they tackle successfully whatever missions they think they have. Healing is of the utmost importance and yet many turn their noses up on this. The enemy knows our weaknesses. It has studied each of us in order to identify our individual vulnerabilities. And it uses that knowledge to tailor its attacks. We all have weaknessness and vulnerabilities. Our defence is to heal ourselves for by doing so, we close off our vulnerabilities and strenghten our weaknesses.

Suppose you are a boxer who has to go into the ring for a bout. You get pounded and lose the fight. And when asked how you came to lose, you say that the other guy hit you and knocked you out. It was because of the other guy. What you need to do is prepare yourself for the fight to such an extant that when hit, you are strong enough to take the blows and instead, take the other guy out.

Right now, we are in the transition period. Everyone is welcome back even those who have sold their souls to the enemy but they must work for it. Healing, forgiveness and clemency from God is available to even the most evil of beings. The only condition is that she/he/it has to work to undo the wrongs it has done. Yes, even if you are one of those baby raping, blood guzzling, humanity betraying people or higher dimensional beings, you too can find yourself on the path back to God. Ask God for healing, forgiveness and clemency. You will be expected to clean up the mess you made. God will not interfere with what gets meted out by your peers but on the soul level, this is a big step in the right direction. I understand that this window of opportunity will not be open forever. While it's true that every soul can always find its way back to God, it is far easier to go through a wide open door now than to wait for a later time when the door may be closed or barely ajar when much greater effort will be needed to open it in order to walk through

Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1aOCL9DE8g
11:38 mins
So it's only our immune system that is under attack physically, our spiritual immune system is under attack

11:53
LW: Most people aren't aware of that
When you start to talk about it or share that info with someone who is not ready to receive it, they think you are insane

DL: They are pretty much asleep to what's going on
They're so brainwashed that they don't even know they're brainwashed
Everyone is brainwashed to some degree because that's what it is to live here
I don't know how the cut goes - how many make it and how many don't
If someone don't make it, it's just simply that they get to repeat this
To me that's a fate worse than death - the idea that I get recycled doing this?
Are you kidding? This is like ambulatory insanity....


Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnHNJFJuBo

6:14
It's been a long battle
Not only here
Part of the thing about the timing when everything finally comes around is that you're in a matrix that's much greater (I was shown it once - the mathematics on this which we are standing)
Because it's isn't just this planet that's going to be graduating on this particular round,
This is a cosmic event of great magnitude .......
They showed me the maths on it once and I was staggered
It wasn't even a map like we do it
It was like this holographic picture of all these carbs(?) and wheels and interconnections all of which have you synched completely with one another and they were there
And I went, "Wow! No wonder."
This has got to be absolutely precise
There's no fudge on this one
Part of our impatience here is because many of us have been waiting for a long time now

No offense, but this is standard New Age doctrine, i.e., the coming [but never arriving] great transition to a golden age, often represented as a movement from third dimensional existence to 4th or 5th dimensional existence (depending on who you follow). Dolores Cannon represents the 3rd to 5th dimensional shift. RA LAW OF ONE represents the 3rd to 4th dimensional shift. Both entail those who are spiritually evolved shifting upward to the higher dimension. Those who had not evolved to this level would have to repeat their 3rd dimensional lives until the next "harvest" event.

I would suggest that the RA LAW OF ONE invoked a lot of this doctrine from back in the early 1980's. There have been a lot of copycats since then. According to the latest New Age News (film at 11) the Sun/Earth system is moving through a portion of the galaxy (once called the Photon Belt but now a fresh new name is being sought) that will activate the dimensional shift.

Look, this is a belief system. But when we accept it, then it suddenly is "Truth". There is nothing wrong with believing all this IF it encourages you to spiritually grow and aspire to be an ethical caring kind person (so that you make the cut). But in a sense, this is a modern rendition of the old Christian Rapture dogma, where the good Christians will float up to heaven and the bad boys and girls (everyone else!) will remain to go through the Tribulations of the End Times.

I love all these stories. They are fascinating to me but I do not have a personality that easily believes in anything simply because someone said it (via the Bible, channeling or whistleblower testimony). Nonetheless, I love the creativity and adventure inherent in studying all such matters.

To keep this linked to Corey Goode, what bothers me about his story is that it is not very creative and entertaining. Corey's perennial deadpan delivery does not suit a story teller. I am amazed at all the people who believe Corey when he has only slightly more stage presence and personality than your average dung beetle (and I am sure everyone can pick up on the metaphor....what "dung" is Corey pushing in front of him?

[aoibhghaire]

Thank you King Arthur, I concur with you fully.

I’m seeing the Goode/Wilcock situation as a small piece in the microcosm on Earth. The points raised by Bill and others is part of the balance required. When we see this on a macroscopic scale we have a dichotomy of dark and light here on Earth on numerous occasions. This means no other place in this galaxy can provide the simultaneous experience of pure love and exquisite beauty coupled with violence, hatred and destruction. This truly is a unique set-up. There are teams, multiple beings, human and those not from this world, whose sole purpose is to work together to provide this dichotomy to the souls who come to Earth.

These are the opportunities we create; however, free will dictates whether a soul chooses to use these gifts or not. Goode/Wilcock scenario is a gift for all of us.

The Goode/Wilcock interference is the appearance by design. Awakened individuals find it extremely disconcerting that beings would ‘interfere’ with the free flow of life. Quite the contrary; there have been ever so many times that this ‘interference’ is allowed by the whole purpose of its design.

The roles of these teams of beings whose mission is to create the illusion of bi-polar division; the light being no more important than the darkness. Servants of humanity who would as frequently antagonize or stir the pot, as create the miraculous moments, are all over the planet, guaranteeing that an incarnate soul can have the opportunity to live what they have come here for.

It is human nature to wish for world peace, to pray for unity, to hope for the world to live as One. That’s not the purpose of this planet and what it has to offer. It is also the reason that religions come and go, ‘Saviours’ are created, Holy texts are enshrined and humans are always looking forward to a time when there might be Peace on Earth. What they fail to realize is that there has never been total Peace nor will there ever be. Just as the species has never managed to annihilate itself, because’Others’ won’t allow it, this schoolhouse for hearty souls promises the experience of duality. Duality or separation from the Source of All That Is, is the mythology that spirits come here to engage in. The opportunities for expansion and the rush of temporarily believing that it’s even possible to detach from perfection, that’s what it’s all about.

For example, the dichotomy of the UFO Disclosure movement versus SETI’s possible scenario of ‘First ET Contact’ is a small case in mind, where we have an example of resistance taking place within the duality; i.e. mainstream (the majority of the population) in denial versus the life experience of thousands that know the absolute UFO/ET truth. However, the good news may have an unexpected positive result. In other words, that official contact through SETI may trigger a trending towards Disclosure. This could come about after SETI mainstream’s‘First Contact’ via the UN, that may push a review of all the UFO material to the realization that ET is also in our backyard. Unfortunately, the Goode fantasy factor (non evidence) like many other individuals in history (e.g. ‘Heaven’s Gate’ 1996 illusion) will collapse, leaving the Sleepers disillusioned. This Goode fantasy is just a quick fix for a short time, an entrapment due to lack of discernment of Sleepers. More awakened people are on the increase; this realisation through morphogenics within the Noosphere (thinking layer of Earth) is bringing this ever increasing level of awareness on to this planet. I’m optimistic this may gradually supersede the present state on this planet of its Sleeping audience, as this process works within the sleepers subconscious mind and gradually filters through to the conscious mind, this is a real process that works and is part of our evolution of humanity. Blessings to all

[Dylansdad]

Thank you King Arthur, I concur with you fully.

I’m seeing the Goode/Wilcock situation as a small piece in the microcosm on Earth. The points raised by Bill and others is part of the balance required. When we see this on a macroscopic scale we have a dichotomy of dark and light here on Earth on numerous occasions. This means no other place in this galaxy can provide the simultaneous experience of pure love and exquisite beauty coupled with violence, hatred and destruction. This truly is a unique set-up. There are teams, multiple beings, human and those not from this world, whose sole purpose is to work together to provide this dichotomy to the souls who come to Earth.

These are the opportunities we create; however, free will dictates whether a soul chooses to use these gifts or not. Goode/Wilcock scenario is a gift for all of us.

The Goode/Wilcock interference is the appearance by design. Awakened individuals find it extremely disconcerting that beings would ‘interfere’ with the free flow of life. Quite the contrary; there have been ever so many times that this ‘interference’ is allowed by the whole purpose of its design.

The roles of these teams of beings whose mission is to create the illusion of bi-polar division; the light being no more important than the darkness. Servants of humanity who would as frequently antagonize or stir the pot, as create the miraculous moments, are all over the planet, guaranteeing that an incarnate soul can have the opportunity to live what they have come here for.

It is human nature to wish for world peace, to pray for unity, to hope for the world to live as One. That’s not the purpose of this planet and what it has to offer. It is also the reason that religions come and go, ‘Saviours’ are created, Holy texts are enshrined and humans are always looking forward to a time when there might be Peace on Earth. What they fail to realize is that there has never been total Peace nor will there ever be. Just as the species has never managed to annihilate itself, because’Others’ won’t allow it, this schoolhouse for hearty souls promises the experience of duality. Duality or separation from the Source of All That Is, is the mythology that spirits come here to engage in. The opportunities for expansion and the rush of temporarily believing that it’s even possible to detach from perfection, that’s what it’s all about.

For example, the dichotomy of the UFO Disclosure movement versus SETI’s possible scenario of ‘First ET Contact’ is a small case in mind, where we have an example of resistance taking place within the duality; i.e. mainstream (the majority of the population) in denial versus the life experience of thousands that know the absolute UFO/ET truth. However, the good news may have an unexpected positive result. In other words, that official contact through SETI may trigger a trending towards Disclosure. This could come about after SETI mainstream’s‘First Contact’ via the UN, that may push a review of all the UFO material to the realization that ET is also in our backyard. Unfortunately, the Goode fantasy factor (non evidence) like many other individuals in history (e.g. ‘Heaven’s Gate’ 1996 illusion) will collapse, leaving the Sleepers disillusioned. This Goode fantasy is just a quick fix for a short time, an entrapment due to lack of discernment of Sleepers. More awakened people are on the increase; this realisation through morphogenics within the Noosphere (thinking layer of Earth) is bringing this ever increasing level of awareness on to this planet. I’m optimistic this may gradually supersede the present state on this planet of its Sleeping audience, as this process works within the sleepers subconscious mind and gradually filters through to the conscious mind, this is a real process that works and is part of our evolution of humanity. Blessings to all

Tell me, how can you authoritatively say that Earth is the only planet in all the galaxy where the duality of positive and negative is being played out, as you describe so poetically? Is this your personal view or the words of an authority you take seriously?

Frankly, with the almost limitless planets projected to have an Earth-like atmosphere, and the potential for life to evolve in totally different climes that would boost the statistics through the roof, how could you consider Earth unique in all the galaxy? If this was true, it seems like a hell of a lot of wasted space!

I am asking a serious question.

I guess this brings up my often repeated maxim "Don't believe something just because someone said so" and a close cousin "Don't believe something just because it happens to tickle the fancy of your psychological profile.":highfive:

[Dylansdad]

I hope Bill doesn't consider this post too whimsical in our direction to present ourselves in a serious erudite manner on the forum (because impressionable others are lurking).

Here goes. I have always wanted to give David Wilcock a physical make-over. I am not really this petty, but my hands actually itch to get hold of his face and change the contours. LOL

Seriously, he needs to "man up". His 70's long blonde hair just does not work, especially against his girly face. And yet he boasts in lectures about being a baby magnet?

Dear David, This is what you need to do in order to join the 21st century.

1. Cut all that excess shag off so you look like a guy. Get a military style haircut, or the popular shaved sides and long-on-top look. If your hair is thinning in front, maybe going bald would add to your masculinity. But wait! You must combine this with step 2.

2. Grow a short cropped beard. A macho short haircut (even military style) with a beard? Oh man. You would be as awesome as you think you already are. You would be in the Los Angeles of 2017, not 1975.

These 2 steps alone would help you to look like you had at least a teaspoon of testosterone within your body. But keep reading.


3. Join a gym. Gym work outs might give you noticeable biceps in time, and a hint of pectoral muscles. Right now you have the physique of an alien Grey. I am sure there are people that find the emaciated look attractive, but in general the "babes" (which you speak of) prefer a man with a little hard meat on him.

4. Stop buying your colored wide collared shirts from the Walmart Bargain bin. Take it up about 20 notches. You can find some very hip tee-shirts nowadays. You could even have some made with your new manly face on the front!

BOTTOM LINE, DUDE. The Little Lord Fauntleroy look that you now show the world just isn't doing it.

If you want my professional advice, send me a message. I am in Los Angeles, ready to aid you in your pursuit of your inner-twenty first century manhood. :bigsmile:

[Shadowself]

Might as well put this right here. Thanks for the quick posting on the other thread Runningdeer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJD93Gxo1s


Published on May 29, 2017
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MAJOR REVELATIONS!
New Age Deep State Part 2: The ‘Team' & Luciferic Influences
In this exciting part 2 episode of this investigative series that looks at the covert influences attempting to infiltrate and coerce the New Age and UFO communities, Dark Journalist reveals some shocking details that have emerged relating to Corey Goode, and his marketing team's documented association with Satanism and Luciferic imagery. Goode, who claims to be a Time Traveling Astronaut in his show with David Wilcock on Gaia TV, is creating ever more elaborate stories to complement his marketing scenarios, but a major backlash is growing against the promotion of a story that appears from all angles to be a work of fiction.

This episode also delves into the major initiative called ‘Corey’s Kids’ that attempts to enlist young adults do outreach to attract the teen market into cult-like activities by promoting Goode's comic books and video games about disclosure.

UFO Disclosure vs FDN “Disclosure"
He also looks at the larger role of the the 3 Year Disclosure Plan that Corey Goode recently announced at a conference. Goode’s business partner Roger Ramsaur has kept largely in the shadows as he built up something called Full Disclosure Network (FDN) over the last year. Now we can see the oddity that this FDN movement doesn’t even mention UFOs in their title or reference the topic much as you would expect from a disclosure oriented organization. The evidence suggests that the ‘Disclosure' they are referring to is the Disclosure that Lucifer the Light Bringer will bring the world into his domain and that they are using the narrative of the Blue Avians to introduce a new Satanic Movement under the guise of Advanced Alien Races coming to help humanity.

There are more stunning details that will be revealed as we get closer to the truth of what is masquerading in the independent media as a 3 year movement for disclosure and co-opting legitimate UFO and Secret Space Program research areas and turning them into Occult recruiting initiatives and unscrupulous marketing techniques aimed at a millennial crowd.

Stunning, disturbing, informative and fascinating, you don’t want to miss this incredible Dark Journalist episode!

Research Links on FDN:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3ry...

https://lowson.bandcamp.com/merch

http://bit.ly/2sfupge

https://offeringtothesun666.bandcamp....

[Atlas]

[...] The evidence suggests that the ‘Disclosure' they are referring to is the Disclosure that Lucifer the Light Bringer will bring the world into his domain [...]
This concept was developed by Corey Goode (Full Disclosure Project (www.fulldisclosureproject.org)) and Emma Gold (Full Disclosure Now). It is based off a dream Corey had regarding a call to action for the "Starseeds" of the world to "Unite, Activate and Become Operational":
bA7hV2zfNEw

Most likely, the full, public exposure of the Luciferian agenda will happen a lot sooner than we think. We have been tracking this story for quite some time on this website -- with the help of multiple insiders much more highly positioned than Edward Snowden. (source (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1157-decloaking-lucifer?showall=&start=1))

[norman]

That might be where the notion of HARVESTING comes in, Atlas.

Gather up all the star seeds and take them out.

[Shadowself]

That might be where the notion of HARVESTING comes in, Atlas.

Gather up all the star seeds and take them out.

If memory serves me correctly, back at Avalon I there was much debate if there was a mass arrival of UFO's whether we should get on the ships or not and it was determined at that time not to get on the ships as it was considered a "harvesting" in nature. I've not really looked into much that Corey and Co has produced but if they are promoting "harvesting"...this would not be a good thing as all the early debate determined.

¤=[Post Update]=¤




Most likely, the full, public exposure of the Luciferian agenda will happen a lot sooner than we think. We have been tracking this story for quite some time on this website -- with the help of multiple insiders much more highly positioned than Edward Snowden. (source (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1157-decloaking-lucifer?showall=&start=1))

Wow after the DJ video, reading that article by DW is somewhat shocking given what we were just presented eh?

[Shadowself]

Why is it I have a feeling this is only the tip of the ice berg of information Danial is holding and getting ready to bring to the public for further review?

I have a feeling Corey's goose is cooked and all those family trips will be canceled? Parachute plan? It seems to me there is more to discover in the next four episodes. I'm still in shock mode while sipping my coffee this morning.

[RunningDeer]

Lastest episode, (Part Two of Six) found here: PART 2 - DISCLOSURE AS OCCULT RITUAL! NEW AGE DEEP STATE - DARK JOURNALIST (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97897-Dark-Journalist-A-Six-Part-Series-on-The-New-Age-Deep-State&p=1156176&viewfull=1#post1156176)

Part One (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97897-Dark-Journalist-A-Six-Part-Series-on-The-New-Age-Deep-State&p=1155278&viewfull=1#post1155278) is also on the same thread.

[Atlas]

One way to prove or disprove the blue avians theory is to solve the tall whites mystery:
https://i0.wp.com/extraterrestrialcontact.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Tall-Whites-de6d98f3cc3bed9ef2ccd3b33ec272f1.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvVv4kpPUnY)

David mentions that after the Inner-Earth Alliance Council meeting with Corey and Gonzales, where they discuss many interesting things, Corey had a private meeting with the priestess Kaaree:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SPja7WaP7a8/Vst6DWiCa3I/AAAAAAAARyE/l1YynBwxeqE/s640/High-Priestess-Library-talk.jpg
http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2016/02/david-wilcock-and-corey-goode-history.html

[TrumanCash]

I am glad that the subject of the Luciferian agenda has been brought up. I will give my perspective based upon my own ET contact experiences in past lives and my research with other abductees and one in particular who had also been directly manipulated by the Annunaki. Of course, my testimony, if you will, is probably more debunkable than Goode's story line (LOL).

What the ET conspirators and their Earthly henchmen are doing is playing good cop/bad cop. Lucifer the Light Bringer is the same symbolism as the Egyptian belief that the gods (i.e., Annunaki) were literally the lights in the sky. The star in the east was in Egypt, Sirius, which appeared in the east right before the Sun God Ra appeared in the morning at the time the Nile flooded and brought fertility to grow grain, etc. (Another light in the sky fitting this bill is Venus.) This was the good cop story. The Sun God Ra finally sets in the west and brings darkness (bad cop, satanic rituals, etc).

Many in the New Age community have bought into the good cop manipulation. One of those people is David Wilcock who promotes the Ra, Law of One material, which is nothing more than good cop propaganda. While presenting some feel good truths, they can easily inject false information to manipulate belief systems. They play the savior card against the evil card to lure people to accept the propaganda, which is mainly designed as a distraction to keep people from discovering the truth. The good cop ploy has been the ubiquitous "heaven" implant but nowadays it is being presented as evolving to a higher dimension (to escape this bad one) or being quite literally rescued and/or taken off the planet by benevolent ETs.

No, Ra was not a god and he was not a good guy as I detailed in the first chapter of THE EYE OF RA. In the second chapter I detailed another abductee's experience who had contact with this same group of ETs in the 1600s in what is now Turkey. They travel through time all over the planet and always play the same savior role while at the same time threatening to kill those who do not obey and worship them.

These human-looking sociopathic ETs are the cause of war and chaos on this planet. They created the (false) dichotomy of heaven and hell to entrap people in belief systems,etc. They usually communicate in terms of "Light" and "Darkness", both symbolically and literally. It is a ploy simply to scare people into false belief systems and is based on the sun rising and setting and location of stars vis-a-vis Earth. You will find this concept in most religions as well as the new age religions. (Notice how the term "light workers" has been accepted in many circles.)

So they always play this black and white game but anyone with half a brain knows that nothing is all black or all white; we live in the gray zone. Nevertheless, one of the primary manipulation tools that these ETs use is polarity mind control to get people to buy into the savior/satan, light/dark machinations. The Annunaki play the polarity game and it was symbolized on the floor of Ra's ship which was a black/white checkerboard design. This design is used in Masonic graphics. Coincidence?

The so-called channeled entities--and whatever buzzword is used for them and the mode of communication is irrelevant--are implanting false information in Earth societies. It can be ETs telepathically communicating (either while the medium is in body or out or via physical implants) or my experience of this phenomenon is that they are mostly very sophisticated, interactive ET computer programs, which may fall under the heading of ET AI.

Some of these channeled "entities" go by the names of Egyptian gods, such as Ra, Seth, Horus, Hathor, Sekhmet, Thoth, etc. Coincidence? I don't think so, because I have had personal experiences with channeled "Pleiadians" and found them to be liars. I cover this in THE EYE OF RA in the "Journey to Discovery" chapter. The channeler was personally trained by Barbara Marciniak who wrote THE BRINGERS OF THE DAWN, a title that definitely reflects the Annunaki symbolism, which these ETs associate with the Pleiades star cluster.

BTW, don't go to the light unless you want to be manipulated by the Mantids masquerading as glowing "light beings".

TLC

[RunningDeer]

In keeping with the Dark Journalist's request, here are the working links:



Note: Due to the important nature of this video and it’s many revelations, you may at your discretion download it and upload it to your channel with proper citation and share it with your viewers to make sure it is not censored.


Full Disclosure Now (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3rygTRcdxvBEvFY43sTRvw/featured)
offeringtothesun666 (https://offeringtothesun666.bandcamp.com/track/marrow)
Low Son wi Lucifer’s Sigil (https://lowson.bandcamp.com/merch)
Emma Gold Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=222603561476102&set=picfp.100011793793157.120692921667167&type=3&theater)

UPDATE: 265 comments (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbJcHaDBITs) and counting with most, if not all, positive feedback.


Might as well put this right here. Thanks for the quick posting on the other thread Runningdeer



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJD93Gxo1s

Published on May 29, 2017
Note: Due to the important nature of this video and it’s many revelations, you may at your discretion download it and upload it to your channel with proper citation and share it with your viewers to make sure it is not censored.

MAJOR REVELATIONS!
New Age Deep State Part 2: The ‘Team' & Luciferic Influences
In this exciting part 2 episode of this investigative series that looks at the covert influences attempting to infiltrate and coerce the New Age and UFO communities, Dark Journalist reveals some shocking details that have emerged relating to Corey Goode, and his marketing team's documented association with Satanism and Luciferic imagery. Goode, who claims to be a Time Traveling Astronaut in his show with David Wilcock on Gaia TV, is creating ever more elaborate stories to complement his marketing scenarios, but a major backlash is growing against the promotion of a story that appears from all angles to be a work of fiction.

This episode also delves into the major initiative called ‘Corey’s Kids’ that attempts to enlist young adults do outreach to attract the teen market into cult-like activities by promoting Goode's comic books and video games about disclosure.

UFO Disclosure vs FDN “Disclosure"
He also looks at the larger role of the the 3 Year Disclosure Plan that Corey Goode recently announced at a conference. Goode’s business partner Roger Ramsaur has kept largely in the shadows as he built up something called Full Disclosure Network (FDN) over the last year. Now we can see the oddity that this FDN movement doesn’t even mention UFOs in their title or reference the topic much as you would expect from a disclosure oriented organization. The evidence suggests that the ‘Disclosure' they are referring to is the Disclosure that Lucifer the Light Bringer will bring the world into his domain and that they are using the narrative of the Blue Avians to introduce a new Satanic Movement under the guise of Advanced Alien Races coming to help humanity.

There are more stunning details that will be revealed as we get closer to the truth of what is masquerading in the independent media as a 3 year movement for disclosure and co-opting legitimate UFO and Secret Space Program research areas and turning them into Occult recruiting initiatives and unscrupulous marketing techniques aimed at a millennial crowd.

Stunning, disturbing, informative and fascinating, you don’t want to miss this incredible Dark Journalist episode!

Research Links on FDN:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3ry...

https://lowson.bandcamp.com/merch

http://bit.ly/2sfupge

https://offeringtothesun666.bandcamp....

[UfonautRadio]

DJ has done an amazing job! Truly a great resource for the community. We cannot allow this marketing machine to ruin the solid work done by real researchers. They however need to stand up and speak their minds without fear of backlash. If they don't, then complaining later is not allowed here...

[Shadowself]

What is with all the name changes?

Stacy Hartman Goode (https://www.facebook.com/stacy.r.goode)

Phoenix Goode (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100015667035018&fref=ufi&pnref=story) (is Stacy)

James Corey Goode (https://www.facebook.com/goodetech)

Corey Goode (https://www.facebook.com/corey.goode.338)

And did you see Emma Gold's response today?

Emma Gold (https://www.facebook.com/FDN.DIRECTOR)
35335

They do not seem very concerned yet.

[aoibhghaire]

Thanks Dylansdad for your good questions.

1. “Tell me, how can you authoritatively say that Earth is the only planet in all the galaxy where the duality of positive and negative is being played out, as you describe so poetically? Is this your personal view or the words of an authority you take seriously?”

No, this is not my personal view, this is an amalgamation of many sources in metaphysics as a summation. This was back in the twentieth century for teachings in those days. For example, Steiner and ‘The Tibetan’ back 100 years ago had discussed this process of duality for the soul when incarnating on the Earth. Steiner discusses the pre incarnation period, selecting the Earth as unique for an accelerated soul growth. The vedic teachings of thousands of years ago taught at Indian universities similar material. Also Phyllis V. Schlemmer whom worked with Dr Andrija Puharich and Sir John Whitmore (see references) that the Earth was a special focus for the Council of Nine. The development of esoteric teachings has grown a lot since those days.

The Only Planet of Choice by Phyllis V. Schlemmer
The Nine: Briefing from Deep Space by Stuart Holroyd
The Master Djwhal Khul (also known as the Tibetan)
Other sources like H.P. Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Rudolf Steiner, George Gurdjieff

“Frankly, with the almost limitless planets projected to have an Earth-like atmosphere, and the potential for life to evolve in totally different climes that would boost the statistics through the roof, how could you consider Earth unique in all the galaxy? If this was true, it seems like a hell of a lot of wasted space!"

"I am asking a serious question".


The sources back in those days as mentioned above that the Earth is unique from a metaphysical point of view. Similarly, scientifically the Earth was also treated as unique until we could find evidence to show that it’s not. For example, the pre Copernican period comes to mind of a unique Earth at the center of the Universe. Until then, Copernicus showed theoretically that we were not. Then Keplar and Galileo proved by observation that the Earth was not unique. Its an evolving history coming down the line that changes when scientific observation evidence supports a theory.

However, I agree with you that the present situation in astronomy and cosmology has changed dramatically in recent years for the existence of possible exoplanet Earth like atmosphere. As we don’t have the evidence for this yet we may still have to refer to the Earth as unique. I disagree with you that there are

“ limitless planets projected to have an Earth-like atmosphere”.

This has not been proven yet until we have the spectroscopic resolution to determine a similar atmosphere to the Earth’s. However, I do agree with you that there is a wider band of atmospheric compositions that could create life.

This poses the question following from the Drake equation, how many ET civilizations are possibly there?.

Recent biological theories like convergent evolution theory [1] [2] and discoveries of significant number of habitable zone exoplanets within our galaxy, supports the possibility of extra terrestrial civilizations.[3] [4] [5] [6]. The possible existence of advanced extra terrestrial civilisations would support recent sociological theories trending towards cooperation and stability.[7]

[1] C.L.F. Martinez, SETI in the light of cosmic convergent evolution, Acta Astronautica, November 2014, DOI: 10.1016/j.actaastro.2014.08.013.

[2] S.C. Morris, Three explanations for Extraterrestrials: Sensible, Unlikely, Mad.,International Journal of Astrobiology. Oct 2016: 1-7, https://doi.org/10.1017/S1473550416000379.

[3] A.Frank and W.T.Sullivan III, A New Empirical Constraint on the Prevalence of Technological Species in the Universe, Astrobiology, May 2016, Vol. 16, No. 5: 359-362 .

[4] M.G. Gowanlock, A Model of Habitability Within the Milky Way Galaxy, Earth and Planetary Astrophysics arXiv:1107.1286, (2015)

[5] I.S.Morrison and M.G.Gowanlock, Extending Galactic Habitable Zone Modeling to Include the Emergence of Intelligent Life, Astrobiology. August 2015, Vol. 15, No. 8: 683-696

[6] R.G.Strom, We are not alone: Extraterrestrial Technological Life in our Galaxy, Astrobiol Outreach 2015, 3:5, (2015) http://dx.doi.org/10.4172/2332-2519.1000144.

[7] S. Pinker, The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined. New York: Viking. ISBN 9780670022953. (2011).

Your last comment

“I guess this brings up my often repeated maxim "Don't believe something just because someone said so" and a close cousin "Don't believe something just because it happens to tickle the fancy of your psychological profile.”

I take your point. I don’t believe until I have evidence. I require evidence both in metaphysics from applying teachings to experiential confirmation which may not be scientifically proven. Similarly I require scientific evidence from theory and observation that then can be agreed upon by the many. Metaphysics is more challenging. This would require the student to explore inner space for evidence as compared to astronomy which is dealing with outer space for agreed results. Both fields require rigour in their application.






You're more than very welcome to start a new thread about this.

:focus:

[UfonautRadio]

One other rant from me...

If we are going to "out" CG, we need to also look at others with the same bull___.

https://www.facebook.com/laura.magdaleneeisenhower?pnref=lhc.friends

[Atlas]

http://disclosurebackpack.com/unity-inner-earth-a-cooperative-board-game/

I'm appalled and wondering if child services should start looking into these folks...this is close to child abuse and endangerment.

Adding:

As a parent you want to protect your child from violence at all costs. This is why you don't let them watch violent movies and such. But here Corey and Co. Inc.....have developed a game and play toys surrounded in violence and a story that suggests they should beware of danger. Something as a parent you try to protect your child from in the first place.

Only a damned fool would subject their children to that BS! As I said before Corey Goode is morally bankrupt and is subjecting his children everyday to this. His children are prominently featured on his blog video series and I wonder how they cope as children who would probably want nothing more than a normal childhood where they could go to school and play with other children and not have to be so involved in the Cory fantasy he is profiting on.

There will come a time when other children will see what they are involved in and start to most likely harass them on the school grounds....What then Cory? Did that thought arise in your self indulged plans?

I would never in a million years subject my children to this ever! [...]
Here she (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1156329&viewfull=1#post1156329) is again (far right):
https://i0.wp.com/disclosurebackpack.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/rules-02-1.jpg

[Atlas]

https://www.facebook.com/laura.magdaleneeisenhower?pnref=lhc.friends
Posted by Laura:
http://www.worldsofimagination.co.uk/Unalion.jpg

[UfonautRadio]

https://www.facebook.com/laura.magdaleneeisenhower?pnref=lhc.friends
Posted by Laura:
http://www.worldsofimagination.co.uk/Unalion.jpg

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[Shadowself]

Oh Atlas...Don't get me started on that site for children. I was appalled then but more so now!

How do you bake honeycomb candy and explain that story to a child?

Honeycomb Earth Candy (http://disclosurebackpack.com/honeycomb-earth-candy/)


Corey claims that on a large timescale, severe worldwide cataclysmic events such as pole shifts regularly occur, greatly reducing the global population. The elite portion of various civilizations know this and relocate below ground for their better long-term survival. Some time after the cataclysm, these “inner Earth” people return to the surface to assist the descendants of the remnant surface population. In the past, the technologically advanced inner Earth people had been mistaken for gods. The Earth has apparently been through countless of these cycles of growth, cataclysm, and rebirth.



Mommy/Daddy...what is does cataclysm mean?




cat·a·clysm
ˈkadəˌklizəm/Submit


noun

a large-scale and violent event in the natural world.
a sudden violent upheaval, especially in a political or social context.
"the cataclysm of the First World War"
synonyms: disaster, catastrophe, calamity, tragedy, devastation, holocaust, ruin, ruination, upheaval, convulsion, apocalypse, act of God
"their homeland was destroyed by a great cataclysm"


Want to mind f*#k a child? That's a great way to do it! Scare the living crap out of them while their developing emotion!

[norman]

They do not seem very concerned yet.



In raw numbers they have the biggest crowd and it's growing fast. I don't know how deep GAIA's pockets go. I have the impression they go a long way down into darkness.

We need a Hall of Shame thread. To put all the compromised "researchers" wannabe millennial media stars, unverifiable whistle blowers, channelers, WooWoo scammers and dubious Radio hosts.

That is looking like a very long list and a very fat thread. If we can get the views up to a million over the summer we might get somewhere.


On a witch hunt ? who, me ?

[Atlas]

How do you bake honeycomb candy and explain that story to a child?
I think we ain't ready for the truth.. unfortunately..

Tippi and leopard:
k6MAgDhSm2o
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/images/smilies/thankyou.gif Kristin !

Related threads:

Tippi (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42876-Tippi)
Le Monde selon Tippi 1997 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42036-Le-Monde-selon-Tippi-1997)
Tippi of Africa: the little Mowgli girl whose friends were the animals (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69309-Tippi-of-Africa-the-little-Mowgli-girl-whose-friends-were-the-animals)

:focus:

[King Arthur]

I found this tweet on Clf High's Twitter page

WatchPickWin™‏ @WatchPickWin 14h
Replying to @clif_high
http://EarthSheriff.com BUSTED these 2 clowns 8/16/2015 2 years it took? next we'll bust @ http://WatchPickWin.com http://win50k.com/corey.php
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBDCcWyV0AAq76t.jpg

[King Arthur]

...In raw numbers they have the biggest crowd and it's growing fast. I don't know how deep GAIA's pockets go. I have the impression they go a long way down into darkness.

We need a Hall of Shame thread. To put all the compromised "researchers" wannabe millennial media stars, unverifiable whistle blowers, channelers, WooWoo scammers and dubious Radio hosts.

That is looking like a very long list and a very fat thread. If we can get the views up to a million over the summer we might get somewhere.


On a witch hunt ? who, me ?

It's shaping up to be a battle between the Deep State / SSP / MIC / cabal / Illuminati / or whatever you wish to call those 1 percenters
vs
We the people

Gather ye pitchforks and burning torches, and march up the hill to burn down Frankenstein's castle.

[TargeT]

It's shaping up to be a battle between the Deep State / SSP / MIC / cabal / Illuminati / or whatever you wish to call those 1 percenters
vs
We the people A handful of people

Gather ye pitchforks and burning torches, and march up the hill to burn down Frankenstein's castle.

if it were "we the people" this fight would be long over; I wish it were.

In reality, it's a small group of people that actually "do" anything, a lot of us that sit by and watch (or give opinions) and the vast majority of people that are completely unaware; most people aren't even aware of "the fight" must less a part of it.

[RunningDeer]

http://disclosurebackpack.com/unity-inner-earth-a-cooperative-board-game/

I'm appalled and wondering if child services should start looking into these folks...this is close to child abuse and endangerment.
Here she (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1156329&viewfull=1#post1156329) is again

Kaaree
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/Kaaree.jpg

[anandacate]

More People Coming Out Against Secret Space Program Disclosure from Corey Goode

May 30, 2017
Compilation article of many that have come out against the Corey Goode narrative.
Includes DISCLOSURE AS OCCULT RITUAL! NEW AGE DEEP STATE PART 2 – DARK JOURNALIST.

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/05/more-people-coming-out-against-secret.html#more

"More and more people seem to be voicing their concerns about the Corey Goode disclosures regarding the SSP programs. Here is an initial list of those in the alternative media who oppose Corey Goode's intel disclosures with links for reference."


Alfred Webre - https://www.facebook.com/alfred.webre/posts/10158722754190524
Dr. Steven Greer - https://youtu.be/2TrWUsnhjuo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TrWUsnhjuo&feature=youtu.be)[/URL]
Christine Anderson - https://youtu.be/mEvUey6kqOw (http://keepvid.com/?url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TrWUsnhjuo&feature=youtu.be)
Bill Ryan - [URL]http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567
Dark Journalist - https://youtube.com/watch?v=xfJD93Gxo1s
Clif High - https://youtu.be/fcORP2nN-es
James Rink - https://supersoldiertalk.com/2017/05/30/clif-high-pissin-in-the-woo-woo-pond-alfred-webre-on-the-corruption-of-gaia-tv-video/
Shane The Ruiner - https://youtu.be/kI8ogW9136k
White Hat Dark Hat - http://whitehatdarkhat.blogspot.com/2016/03/intel-drop-6.html
Randy Maugans - https://facebook.com/randy.maugans/posts/1762961757054038

[Catsquotl]

if it were "we the people" this fight would be long over; I wish it were.

In reality, it's a small group of people that actually "do" anything, a lot of us that sit by and watch (or give opinions) and the vast majority of people that are completely unaware; most people aren't even aware of "the fight" must less a part of it.

We the people.
A small group "doing" anything.
A lot just sitting and giving opinions?
The vast majority unaware..

A few questions. Who are the small group and what are they "doing"?
Who the lot that sit bye and who the unaware.

We the people have allowed our current circumstance, well if we are living in a consensus that is..
The fight you speak of seems to me to be non-existent. You know the "unaware" part. The divide and conquer strategy has worked, and until we the people keep (artificially or not) keep divided we have no chance of "winning" anything.

Sadly divisions seems to be propping up everywhere, unless we find a way to live together despite our differences. I no longer belief we will get any form of disclosure or world peace or something like that on this planet.

I know i'd want to, but all around me I see people struggling with fight's over divisions that when looked at from a distance are hardly worth the trouble. I'm as much a "victim" of this as anyone and no way how much I try to reflect and understand my part in all of this. I can't find the "tools" to uniting what is divided.

This whole CG thread is but an example of that. What in my mind started out as an opportunity to unite what was divided during the forum wars has only led to a renewal of the positions that were taken then. I can't see the unifying piece. I doubt there is one..

Unless we find a way to ahum at least allow a man like CG or DW or any of the 1 percenters to exist in their chosen way of life somehow. How can "we the people unite"? Now I don't advocate to let the "evil" doers do whatever they please.
Just pointing out that they are part of we the people to.. Whether Milabed, duped, fooled or whatever. How do we change the consensus reality if this seems to be the best we can create at the moment?

With Love
Eelco

[Atlas]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RZEAvfwpRZ0/VD2k2liruyI/AAAAAAAAZJM/TncezRybDRU/s1600/Disclosure%2BMovement%2BRIP.png
http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/05/more-people-coming-out-against-secret.html#more
Think about it: if there's a highly advanced civilization that managed to remain hidden for millennia, why would they want to show up just right now? Just because they like us more than the ones who were here before us and those who will come after we are long gone..!? I wonder who is supposed to disclose the whole stuff first? Us or them?
:ufo:

[norman]

With Love
Eelco



The key word here is Nefarious. The idea that we should stand down on a universal ideological principle in the face of nefarious activity designed to have a huge transformational impact on the whole world is laughable on a good day and suicidal on a wet day.

[RunningDeer]

...subscribe at Gaia Unity Circle link where you can also sign up for Monthly sessions. There is a free Newsletter
The link is broken. This one works LauraEisenhower.com (http://lauraeisenhower.com). I found this poster while I was there: The Mass Meditation Initiative in Los Angeles – June 17th (http://lauraeisenhower.com/2017/05/06/the-mass-meditation-initiative-in-los-angeles-june-17th/). I only recognize her name. You have to register for free tickets @ DisclosureFest.com (https://disclosurefest.com). (Site appears to be down or maybe it's too early.)


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/meditation.jpg

[TargeT]

I know i'd want to, but all around me I see people struggling with fight's over divisions that when looked at from a distance are hardly worth the trouble. I'm as much a "victim" of this as anyone and no way how much I try to reflect and understand my part in all of this. I can't find the "tools" to uniting what is divided.

I'd like to blame it all on "them" or "they" and perhaps at some level there is an external "blame" target. But we have to work with what we've got... and what we've got isn't much to work with unfortunately.

The human animal is easily distracted, short term memory plagued and ruled by emotion unless constantly vigilant (though, even this gets very easy with practice). The introduction of logical fallacy has very interesting implications, we all use them un-conciously because it's what is environmentally shown to us to be effective. We don't understand that they are though traps used to waste our time and energy; we simply use them because they are effective.

This lack of self analysis is really the root of many issues, but there are many other phenomenon occurring at the same time (this "struggle" didn't start recently; it simply shifts context (the anti-fascists of the 60's become the fascists of the 2010's etc..), the base patterns remain the same).


This whole CG thread is but an example of that. What in my mind started out as an opportunity to unite what was divided during the forum wars has only led to a renewal of the positions that were taken then. I can't see the unifying piece. I doubt there is one..

Anything that gets people to question is good, unfortuantely that is not the usual outcome... most people, when a belief is challenged, respond by defending their belief, not questioning it or seeing the "challenging info" as valid.




Unless we find a way to ahum at least allow a man like CG or DW or any of the 1 percenters to exist in their chosen way of life somehow.

Elitism is another human failing, and elitism requires a large group of "unprivileged"... their "chosen way" is diametrically opposed to the concepts of free will and equal opportunity.

[Omni]

One of the PSYOP tactics is generating a bastardized version of something that will or could happen. I think they are doing this with Corey Goode's PSYOP, i.e. Disclosure etc.

[Foxie Loxie]

Looks to me like Disclosure has become Big Business! :cash::cash: As long as people want to be fooled, they will be fooled, whether it be Religion or Disclosure. It seems the "truth" on any subject can be manipulated & turned into a Cash Cow....:facepalm: It is such a revelation to realize we don't NEED anyone to "save us" as each of us is a Sovereign Being! How DOES one change centuries of programming that has gone on?! :confused: I'm glad Bill has been at the forefront of all this! Listening to Rch. Dolan, it was apparent he was quite upset, but I wonder if he understands that not everyone has his "logical" approach to everything? Each person has to walk through this minefield according to his or her own consciousness. Each of us has our own Sphere of Influence upon which we can have an effect. It IS up to parents to guide their children, isn't it? :heart:

[Sequoia]

Kerri Cassidy's take on "it all" today with The Ruiner - brilliant move, she couldn't have picked a more complementary interviewee/interviewer on the subject!
If you missed the live feed check it out when it's on YT

[OMG]

So why all of the whining and hate? Until Bill or someone else provides a comprehensive factual list of provable claims showing irrefutably that CG has lied about this or that, etc, all I see are perspectives and opinions. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1155196



has been done numerous times by numerous people. Some are just hard of hearing.

when you take off all beliefs, all of them, truth is what remains, linked to reality - and with hard of hearing humanity, stubborn and beliefs creating, accepting, dying for it, well, not much remains. Their lifes being based on lies.

All those willing to lie, consciously, are leading humanity astray. It is crucial in turning points of developing consciousness that lies be exposed so that evolution can proceed.

Corey is destroying the truth movement. And many others are. Quite simple isn't it?

When a friend of mine find and declare public funds embezllement, should she have kept quiet and not say anything? As the hidden world funds embezzlement is doing, which is harming all of us since we do not profit from our labor because it is stolen.

When my neighbour is stolen, his house robbed, should I not declare what I have seen so that he gets his things back or the thief is stopped from stealing others around?

Many alt people are stealing the truth from us and stealing money through their strategy to get our money, with a breeze of polluted air in exchange. Should'nt we declare what we see? Shouldn't we mention that the sheep in front of us is in fact a wolfe, beware?

Without hatred of course. This leads nowhere either.


But I won't allow what others do to thwart my path or value, even if it means my death or those I love most dearly.

The spiritual path is most important for me because it's the most accurately personal, yet also broadest, overall significant, and potent of ALL topics. While the Alien/UFO, technology, paranormal, cryptic, secret or deep government and other related subjects are just points of interest or curiosities along the way.

You see, you are plainly telling us here that you are ready to die for your beliefs (you used the term value, a value is belief based).

Well, I discovered no later than last summer that a belief system is a lie. Sometimes worthile, because it makes me progress, but to go further I have to get rid of it - a better word would be to let go of it. Then plain truth remains - and yes it hurts, not much remains.

You are right, spiritual path is the most important, and rejecting lies while helping our neighbours to see through lies as well is part of the path. The "curiosity along the way " has to be named as well, in order to proceed and go further.

This is my experience..

1. You lost me. What's been done many times by numerous people?

This article clearly vindicates CG from Bill's accusations and I have yet to see a written rebuttal to this or ANY attempt to systematically label the so-called lies of CG that haven't already been shot down. http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/05/corey-goode-responds-to-claims-made-by-bill-ryan.html?m=1

However, I just noticed this post from Bill not long ago. Although he didn't provide a link to the interview he was referring to. And so I don't know how accurately it follows and addresses CG rebuttal. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1155111&viewfull=1#post1155111


2. How is CG destroying the "truth" movement? First, he never claimed that his information was provable. Only that others would eventually come out to support various parts of his expericnes and claims. William Thompkins being one such highly credible person. Further, truth is a broad topic that doesn't necessarily mean socially provable or even dealing in facts. Regardless, CG has put everything on the line to come forward and relay his experiences. While people debate if what he says is true, or his credibility, he none the less is conveying "his truth", subjective as it may be. And I clearly see such people as truthers.

Here's a good summary of types of truth, etc. Starts around 6:15 of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmhFYQnlKB4

3. Suggesting any of us has anything other than a "beLIEf" can be seen as just a play on words. Here's a fun link on "beliefs". http://trufax.org/general/beliefsystems.html

All of our thinking and actions are relative and partial. No ones Absolutely knows anything. Yet none the less we must act in good conscience based on the information we have. And because the moment-to-moment of life IS...we act relatively but with with certainty. So what I'm saying here regarding death is simple. Since no one knows when they will die as long as a person speaks the truth according to what they perceive it is they can die at any moment with a clear conscience.

Liars, on the other hand, are something else all together. And as far as CG I have yet to see any factual irrefutable proof that he has lied.



Let me try to help you here:

The events Corey describes either happened or they did not happen. In this way they are either true or false. He is either lying or he is telling the truth.

To date, he has offered not a shred of evidence to suggest even a fraction of it is true.

Whether events occur or do not occur fall under the umbrella of "absolute truth". I could tell you that the presidential election was yesterday and argue that thats my "relative truth", but it would mean nothing, except that maybe i'm delusional or a pathological liar.

This is very simple.

I basically agree (with the exception that comes to mind of William Tompkins...which seems a rather credible and significant story). As such, I don't see what all the fuse about Corey is. He never said his experiences could be proven. But who needs verification for a story to have value? This entire genre and site is full of such stuff. Of course we ALL want proof yet honestly does the UFO community or it's "credible researchers" have irrefutable proof? Sort answer: NO.

The claims he's a pathological liar, works or is brainwashed by the secret Gov, is trying to brainwash kids with cartoons/media, etc, such as what I just heard from this utterly ridiculous video boggles my mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzCHN2m6UoE This is ALL fear pron and speculation based loosely on data that is easily bent to fit interpretation. The secret Gov has far more to lose than gain from ANY of the information coming from Corey.

In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed.

:)

[RunningDeer]

Kerri Cassidy's take on "it all" today with The Ruiner - brilliant move, she couldn't have picked a more complementary interviewee/interviewer on the subject!
If you missed the live feed check it out when it's on YT


Thanks, Sequoia. :wave:


SHANE THE RUINER WITH KERRY CASSIDY: THE RASHOMON DYNAMIC


Streamed live 2 hours ago (September 30, 2016)




Summary: A conversation with Shane the Ruiner about his role as well as my own small role in the Corey Goode / David Wilcock Story. The various confusion and untruths going around the alternative sector as well as targeting. We will also be talking about how unsuspecting people can be used to confuse the narrative.

..."The Rashomon effect is where the same event is given contradictory interpretations by different individuals involved."-- Wikipedia


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[TargeT]

Shane has been busy....

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[Lost N Found]

Well sh** I guess if this is the hot topic these days then I will add something so all can keep their I phones up to date. Don't forget to communicate with real people and as I have said in the past. "As long as we continue to add to this and support this unreal figure then I guess we keep it alive." So here is some more for all of us to feed on.

https://youtu.be/mEvUey6kqOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEvUey6kqOw

and the second one

https://youtu.be/kI8ogW9136k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI8ogW9136k

This would be all I can do

[RunningDeer]

Shane has been busy....]
Yes, Shane's making the rounds. He was on with Randy Maugans.

I listened to a little under two hours of C.W. Chanter.
CW's got lots of talker energy.
No offense, CW.
It is what it is...

(Note: for those unfamiliar with CW, he says that a lot.)

[TargeT]

I listened to a little under two hours of C.W. Chanter.
CW's got lots of talker energy.

He'd be the first to tell you that, he even says in that interview..

C.W.:
"I just want out, I want to read tarot cards and make money like everyone else."

"I don't like it when people beat up on satanists"

"I don't play for the light"

"I"ve always been affiliated with the dark side"

"shane, can you agree with that?"

(shane answers yes)

[Gemma13]

He never said his experiences could be proven.

In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed.


Please, do you read any of the other postings? Please see Post #521 of this thread re COREY'S PERSONAL STATEMENT THAT HIS EXPERIENCES COULD BE PROVEN!

In my opinion this is a “smoking gun”, HAND DELIVERED BY COREY HIMSELF, as yes, many whistleblowers are simply unable to produce or procure evidence, but COREY CAN according to HIS OWN testimony. Surely this would be tantamount to witness for a reporter/investigator that was choosing to publicly expose and support the claims!

I simply can’t believe that amongst all the individual levels of intelligence at GAIA not one of them has followed up on this, not only to bring any sense of credibility to Corey’s story, but from their own personal integrity! Multiple Independent’s witnessing and recording Corey being extracted from his home in a bubble would be revolutionary, ground-breaking disclosure news that would be the “smoking gun” to instantaneously force gov’t and mainstream to deal with the truth – so why isn’t this happening!!! Why isn’t this “brave” chosen ambassador for Earth ... bringing it on!


Shall we wait and see if the Blue Avians, et al and Corey et al take umbrage at this “smoking gun” statement from Corey and redact it in some way. :decision:
Hey guys, let me give you a hand with that promo: :typing:
“um, due to “negative something-or-other”,
(being their psychological con tactic used in attempts to make "new age love and lighters" feel really bad if they start to reasonably and logically question any of their claims; heaven forbid a "love and lighter" gets anywhere close to the negative word),
we have had to stop visitations and extractions of Corey from his home so he will now not be able to physically visit off planet locations, Antartica, inner earth, etc . . . but do not despair as we will continue to telepathically channel information to him (and David) . . . so that it gets to you!”

There all better now :playball: :juggle:


Nope. Not even close! :boink:

Maybe it's time for a GAIA Whistleblower to emerge :chess:


P.S. I apologize if my ‘love and lighter’ reference appeared insensitive to some, it is not intended and I include myself in the reference. For once upon a time, when it felt almost sacrilege to not sign off every correspondence with “in love and light”, I came to know how deeply programmed I was within the new-age belief system because of the avoidance of any word or reference containing “negative” in it. It holds strong correlations to the word “sinner” in various religious doctrines; which is why I now see it as a psychological manipulation by those piously using it to deter people from allowing their natural curiosity’s and discernments to manifest for their own evaluations.

[ThePythonicCow]

In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed.
Your continued defense, OMG, of the disinformation, propaganda, mind-control, human-control operation of which Corey is one small, but for the moment, prominent part is a bogus defense on so many counts that I hardly know where to begin.

So I'll semi-randomly pick the last "point" you made, trying to shift the burden of proof onto those of us defending humanity from this toxic operation.

The burden of proof of those making impossible to verify, and highly implausible, claims lies with those making the claims. It is absolutely wrong to claim that any such case is closed in favor of the bogus claimant, especially after arbitrarilly dismissing substantial and credible evidence from a variety of sources of high integrity showing that Corey is part of a deeply dishonest and deceptive operation.

In simpler terms ... the burden of proof of impossible to verify claims lies with those making the claims, not with those doubting them.

Should the Avalon moderators choose to discuss the merits of allowing your continued participation in this discussion, don't count on me for any support.

[Eram]

"As long as we continue to add to this and support this unreal figure then I guess we keep it alive."


My thoughts exactly Lost N Found and until recently, I've refused for let Goode into the forefront of my mind any longer then nescessary, let alone write posts about him.
Yet, since Dark Journalist raised some serious questions as to the organisation that Goode has become the figurehead of, I think the game has changed in such a way that we must reconsider our position.

If a virus attacks the body, ignoring it won't make it better.
Recognize the situation and take proper measures to cure disease. That's the way to go.

Investigate, expose and taking counter measures is what is needed now imo.

Too many people have been caught into the nets of the fake new age movement over the past 30 years and if we can do just a little to help solve this trap, then in my book, that's energy well spent.

[norman]

Shane has been busy....

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Shane sounds very sane to me, but at 2:47:30 to 2:48:40, CW Chanter completely fails my smell test, and he should really get out of the truther scene and return to where he must have crawled out from. I won't be following his "contribution" from here on.

When I first discovered Chanter I was impressed by his logical power, once I got past his persona obfuscations, but I now realise I was naive about the guy's real darkness.

[RunningDeer]

In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed.
Your continued defense, OMG, of the disinformation, propaganda, mind-control, human-control operation of which Corey is one small, but for the moment, prominent part is a bogus defense on so many counts that I hardly know where to begin.

So I'll semi-randomly pick the last "point" you made, trying to shift the burden of proof onto those of us defending humanity from this toxic operation.

The burden of proof of those making impossible to verify, and highly implausible, claims lies with those making the claims. It is absolutely wrong to claim that any such case is closed in favor of the bogus claimant, especially after arbitrarilly dismissing substantial and credible evidence from a variety of sources of high integrity showing that Corey is part of a deeply dishonest and deceptive operation.

In simpler terms ... the burden of proof of impossible to verify claims lies with those making the claims, not with those doubting them.

Should the Avalon moderators choose to discuss the merits of allowing your continued participation in this discussion, don't count on me for any support.

Wow, Paul, I gotta :bump: this. ...........http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/cow2.gif.....http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/cow.gif

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[Chester]

In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed.
:)

If someone lives a life where they establish a track record for honesty and one day they tell me they were beamed up by blue bird ETs one night, I would be skeptical but to some degree open minded.

When someone lives a life where they repeatedly lie and get caught in those lies (provable OMG and just a tiny few have been documented here on this thread) and one day they tell me they were beamed up by blue bird ETs one night, I would put most of my money on "It's all BS."

It is that simple OMG and if you cannot demonstrate fairness in acknowledging Corey's well established track record for spinning yarns and his constant, significant story changing (where only one version could be true but where it is far most likely both are lies) and then admit that the fact of all this does indeed raise the degree on sensible "questioning" as to the veracity of his other worldly "stories" then I am ready to accept that a portion of humanity is so lost that the only fear I have is.. will this portion become dominant?

The statement you made that I quoted is utter senselessness. The baseless case you attempt to build to lead up to this statement (as if any of it had any merit) is equally baseless.

[Shadowself]

In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed

The alternative community of UFO awareness is closing in on him daily. Let's give a listen shall we? I listened to Kerry last night after work and heard yet another spin on this subject. Learned some things I didn't know. You sir/mam have not gathered all the facts either. There is no way you could have.

The general consensus is that he (Cory) is full of it. But more importantly subverting the subject to a fantasy rather than a serious subject. Which have effected many people in a variety of way. Many in bad ways.

I have perused his FB page of people/followers and must say I've seen several who have mentioned among many things in passing suicide. Yet he gives comfort and council to these people? He is NOT QUALIFIED to do that. In fact I've mentioned and witnessed deleted posts of his that would suggest a repressed individual by his own words that would disqualify him in any such position! Several others have seen it too.

This drip drip drip of so called disclosure is getting old fast. DW has predicted disclosure from the likes of Obama which never occurred and now we are going to jump on the DW bandwagon of Ascension? Give me a break!

There are four more episodes of DJ to come and frankly I'm riveted already.

"OMG! I can't handle the negativity!!" the Corey fans scream. Grow up will ya! There are plenty of negative aspects to this subject...so if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen!

[Catsquotl]

With Love
Eelco



The key word here is Nefarious. The idea that we should stand down on a universal ideological principle in the face of nefarious activity designed to have a huge transformational impact on the whole world is laughable on a good day and suicidal on a wet day.

Hey Norman,
I'm sorry I don't understand how this ties in to what I wrote.

With Love
Eelco

[Catsquotl]

The human animal is easily distracted, short term memory plagued and ruled by emotion unless constantly vigilant

This lack of self analysis is really the root of many issues, but there are many other phenomenon occurring at the same time (this "struggle" didn't start recently; it simply shifts context (the anti-fascists of the 60's become the fascists of the 2010's etc..), the base patterns remain the same).

Anything that gets people to question is good, unfortunately that is not the usual outcome... most people, when a belief is challenged, respond by defending their belief, not questioning it or seeing the "challenging info" as valid.

Elitism is another human failing, and elitism requires a large group of "unprivileged"... their "chosen way" is diametrically opposed to the concepts of free will and equal opportunity.
I agree,

That said, The failing human animals make up for a large portion of "we the people" And through there efforts or lack thereof We live in the consensus reality we live in.
My/our predicament is this.
Calling these people out on their failings will like you said trigger a defense mode. In that mode the failing human animal will not be open to other possibilities.

We have little to work with as it is so I am hoping we (the small group of so called awake failing human animals) will find a way to reach our brothers and sisters.
Now in truth I am way less mushy as it appears, but unless we find a way to reach them/ build a bridge instead of increasing the gap that is already there. I don't think we will see any of the freedoms we hold so dear in our lifetimes..

After Corey another will stand up, in fact I believe there are already many many liars out there. Being carried on the hands of thousands of failing human beings.

There is a reason these people are failing and I for one don't blame them for it..
I won't diminish there value by saying they are dumb, fooled, used or behaving like sheep. They are wondrous beings expressing themselves in a way only they can working with the little knowledge they hold for their truth..

But then that's just me, and no I don't feel any better about it. Just expressing my truth as it is.
BTW failing at that miserably most of the time too.

With Love
Eelco

[Satori]

If I may weigh in here, it is only to do so in connection with Paul's post re the burden of proof. Indeed, while I have with some interest read the various posts about CG and DW (and others), I have no personal knowledge or experience to be able to support or contradict their claims. In fact, I have never read or listened to a single word from CG and I stopped reading or listening to DW years ago. (My reaction to DW was not unlike a man who Bill and Kerry interviewed many years ago and DW was participating in that interview and the sessions with this man. I do not remember the man's name, but as I recall there was a meeting at a location in a somewhat secluded valley in North America. Bill and Kerry were for the most part behind the camera and conducting the interview. Although there were some scenes of Bill, Kerry and DW talking over dinner. In one session, in a cabin I believe, DW sat next to the man on the same side of a picnic-like table during the interview. The man would be speaking and DW would interrupt him and say something that DW thought was relevant and insightful. Or, DW would ask a loaded question. The man's reaction to DW spoke volumes. It was apparent to me that this man thought DW was an idiot or a con man, or both. But I digress.)

Paul makes a valid point about the burden of proof. This point has been made elsewhere on this forum. I write only to add that the burden of proof is on any person who makes a claim; small, large or improbable. The claim does not have to be "highly improbable" to place the burden of proof on the advocate or proponent of the claim. Paul is touching upon the issue of the "quantum" of proof and the burden or persuasion, not merely the burden of proof.

The quantum, or degree, of proof may best be illustrated by the level or degree of proof required to prevail in civil cases versus criminal cases here in the USA. In a civil case, as a general rule, the quantum of proof is a "preponderance of the evidence." However, if fraud or other intentionally wrongful conduct is alleged to have occurred, the quantum of proof is "clear and convincing evidence." In a criminal case, the quantum of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Now, these are somewhat amorphous or vague terms, but our judicial system leaves it to the jury, or a judge in a bench trial, to weigh the evidence, judge the credibility of the witnesses, and use their common sense to determine whether the applicable quantum of proof has been satisfied.

You may have observed that as the stakes get higher, so too the quantum of proof. If I sue you for breach of contract and I want money, I have to prove my claim by a preponderance of the evidence. But, if I want punitive damages as well, because you are a really bad actor and you should be made an example of to deters others, I have to prove my case by clear and convincing evidence. However, if I am the State and I want to put you in jail or worse, I must prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. And, in a criminal case, you as the defendant do not have to prove didily-squat. As far as I know, CG is not a criminal defendant. Thus, the burden of proof and persuasion is on him, and anyone else, who makes any claims about whatever the subject may be.

So, the question becomes what is that quantum of proof for claims about SSP, having been to Mars, and "alien blue chickens" etc...? If I may, I think this gets us back to Paul's point. We may have all heard by now the oft used phrase that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." CG's claims are extraordinary by any measure. He, like anyone else making such claims, has a very high hurdle to leap over.

I welcome receipt of the extraordinary proof of these extraordinary claims. Until the proof is in, I'm not buying it.

Edit: Lest I be misunderstood, I return to add that I do not doubt there is a SSP, black ops, terrestrial and extraterrestrial life forms and beings, and the like. What I'm not buying, for lack of any proof that I have seen or heard, is CG's whistleblower status and the claims derived therefrom.

[TargeT]

The failing human animals make up for a large portion of "we the people" And through there efforts or lack thereof We live in the consensus reality we live in.
My/our predicament is this.
Calling these people out on their failings will like you said trigger a defense mode. In that mode the failing human animal will not be open to other possibilities.

We have little to work with as it is so I am hoping we (the small group of so called awake failing human animals) will find a way to reach our brothers and sisters.
Now in truth I am way less mushy as it appears, but unless we find a way to reach them/ build a bridge instead of increasing the gap that is already there. I don't think we will see any of the freedoms we hold so dear in our lifetimes..

Your sort of acting like we have something to loose, in my mind this community is so small, that even if we set some few thousand people into defensive mode we will only gain from it. Humans, when in defense of a belief become pretty irrational as they are mostly functioning from the reptilian mind set (which doesn't do logic, or often make much sense) and so they will "show themselves" and this will be the most important outcome of the entire situation in my opinion. This will set an example that can be referenced for future situations.

Others will stumble down this same path, we need to leave examples of the pitfalls for them to stumble onto.. and the more public and documented the better as this will allow new readers to see what can happen, and how the traps are laid etc..

I don't see this collision helping very much with the current community, but I also don't think much of the current community, it's very small and very influential at this time.



There is a reason these people are failing and I for one don't blame them for it..
I won't diminish there value by saying they are dumb, fooled, used or behaving like sheep. They are wondrous beings expressing themselves in a way only they can working with the little knowledge they hold for their truth..


I agree, you don't blame the 5 year old when he gets beat up by a 30 year old; but you have to do something for him, right?

[Catsquotl]

Your sort of acting like we have something to loose.

I believe we do.
By putting a few thousand in defense mode we've missed an opportunity to let them find the truth, helping them ingrain there current belief system with a dig in come what may emotion. Yes I'd say that's even more detrimental than just providing the intel to leave them a choice. Free will and all that.

As for the 5 year old and the 30 year old bully.
Neither side is 5 in this case. Both sides are mostly adult human beings making the choices the do based on the information and belief system they have.

With Love
Eelco

[TargeT]

Your sort of acting like we have something to loose.

I believe we do.
By putting a few thousand in defense mode we've missed an opportunity to let them find the truth helping them ingrain there already belief system with a dig in come what may emotion.

But the intent is not to put people in defensive mode, that's an outcome inherent to the human psychological system.. I've tried for years to slip around it, but if a belief is strongly held, you cannot... As I said, the best you can do is set up an example for others who will follow the path in the future (and this is wholey inclusive of the group that is in "defensive mode" because eventually that belief will be replaced by another, and some will go back and review material with a different mind set.. I have done this myself several times in my life).

It's a convoluted thing, but it's meant to be.



just providing the intel to leave them a choice. Free will and all that.

You feel that's not what is happening now? That's exactly the type of thing that puts people into defensive mode (it doesn't take actual attacks, or animosity or anything like that, just stating something that challenges or conflicts with a strongly held belief (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbh5l0b2-0o)).

I'd like to hope that's exactly what is happening right now.

[Catsquotl]

But the intent is not to put people in defensive mode, that's an outcome inherent to the human psychological system..
It's a convoluted thing, but it's meant to be.

Just this should be an an incentive to keep looking for new strategies, especially because like yourself I too have a few years of failing at finding the sweet spots under my belt.



You feel that's not what is happening now?
I'd like to hope that's exactly what is happening right now.

Truthfully, No. In my mind this is turning into the lets piss on Corey some more show. Or shows seeing the attention he's getting all across the board.
For example I've never had to endure Gaia commercials before on youtube.
Now I do.. For another there's a lot of opinions out there which do diddly squat for exposing Corey as a storyteller. Only generate more advertising.

If he is (my personal belief) a guy who smelled an opportunity to make a living in the (woo woo) entertainment industry and cashes in on it.
Well you know what they say, even bad publicity is good for that business. So I for one have learned what I needed to from this renewal of the Corey Goodey show. Took the opportunity to reunite with some old friends. And will leave it be.

With Love
Eelco

[TrumanCash]

They do not seem very concerned yet.



In raw numbers they have the biggest crowd and it's growing fast. I don't know how deep GAIA's pockets go. I have the impression they go a long way down into darkness.

We need a Hall of Shame thread. To put all the compromised "researchers" wannabe millennial media stars, unverifiable whistle blowers, channelers, WooWoo scammers and dubious Radio hosts.

That is looking like a very long list and a very fat thread. If we can get the views up to a million over the summer we might get somewhere.


On a witch hunt ? who, me ?

I understand what you're saying, but I think that would be a bit too harsh for "unverifiable whistleblowers". How can anyone verify all data which has been kept secret?

Given that one can safely assume that most "government" ET/SSP whistleblowers have been MKUltra mind controlled and probably programmed with false information, too, in case they go public, so that they discredit themselves, I think that some compassion and understanding for these folks is in order.

I knew two different Vietnam vets who both told me (separately) that they were MKUltra'd in Vietnam. As Cathy O'Brien has said, the MKUltra victims often start remembering the mind control after thirty years or so. One of the vets--a good guy and friend of mine--participated in the My Lai massacre and when he tried to tell me what happened, he broke down and cried. It was too difficult for him to talk about it. Imagine remembering that you helped to slaughter hundreds of unarmed old men, women and children!

I know it is easy for the groupthink phenomenon to kick in when ganging up on a whistleblower that may be imparting false, MKUltra-programmed information, but WHERE IS THE COMPASSION? Why not just realize that that might very well be the case and just be satisfied with taking the info/disinfo with a grain of salt and not attacking the messenger. If it is felt that exposing the disinfo is important to do, why not attack the disinformation instead of the messenger?

The real culprits are in the CIA and other so-called "intelligence" (i.e. mind controlling) organizations as well as the lying, manipulative ETs at the top of the pyramid. Why not spend the time and resources to expose them instead?

Also, I am an "unverifiable whistleblower" that exposed being abducted into a deep underground military/Grays base. Just because some people may not believe in past lives, time-traveling ETs that abduct people from lifetime to lifetime, deep underground military/alien bases, etc, does not give them the right for a witchhunt and burning at the stake. (I have already had that experience during the Inquisition so I am not keen on the idea of going through that again! LOL!)

Of course, now the "government" just harasses, threatens or assassinates whistleblowers (like Phil Schneider) and doesn't usually burn them alive unless we're talking about the Waco incident (and even then I would assume that the government attackers were mind-controlled to burn innocent women and children alive).

But seriously, folks, please lighten up a bit on the whistleblowers and realize that they probably have been programmed to spread disinformation by rendering them unconscious with around 50,000 volts of electricity, drugs and hypnosis without their consent or knowledge.

If a regular nice guy can be programmed this way to slaughter women and children, I think they could also just as easily program people to mix in disinformation with true information.

PLEASE HAVE SOME COMPASSION AND UNDERSTANDING.

[RunningDeer]

(My reaction to DW was not unlike a man who Bill and Kerry interviewed many years ago and DW was participating in that interview and the sessions with this man. I do not remember the man's name, but as I recall there was a meeting at a location in a somewhat secluded valley in North America. Bill and Kerry were for the most part behind the camera and conducting the interview.
{snip}
The man would be speaking and DW would interrupt him and say something that DW thought was relevant and insightful. Or, DW would ask a loaded question. The man's reaction to DW spoke volumes. It was apparent to me that this man thought DW was an idiot or a con man, or both. But I digress.)

This is the one that comes to mind. It's 3 part series with Dr. Pete Peterson. He made little eye contact with David. He came across as trying to impress Dr. Peterson. Every time David asked questions, they were really him going on and on with opinions. At one point Dr. Peterson says, “So the question is?”

Snippet of Pete/David exchange @ 56:11 (https://youtu.be/ooSRh7V68uk?t=56m11s).


Project Camelot interviews Dr Pete Peterson - part 1 of 3
ooSRh7V68uk

[Sequoia]

You rounded it up really well TruemanCash!

Just wanted to note that imo, first the truth had to come out for transparency, so that everyone can be held accountable for what they have done based on their choices, and own it (if you are a public person, then publicly), only then the deep healing and true compassion can begin .

[onawah]

DW is now claiming that a Pete Peterson is one of his insider informants. Does anyone know if he is claiming this is the Dr. Pete Peterson that was interviewed by Project Camelot?
When I first heard of this, I felt very doubtful that Dr. Petetson would choose that role, and concluded it must be disinfo, but I never checked into it far.
For examples, see:
http://discerningthemystery2000plus.blogspot.com/2017/01/cosmic-disclosure-with-david-wilcock.html

http://exopolitics.org/tag/pete-peterson/
If this is all a lie, I certainly hope that Dark Journalist is going to expose it.

Wilcock says that he spoke with another whistleblower, Dr. Pete Peterson, who said that the US based MIC was given these advanced technologies by defectors from corporate controlled secret space programs:

Peterson knew all about these triangle-shaped craft when I discussed it with him on the phone. The MIC are very proud of their new weapon. It is very likely that the MIC got this technology from Alliance defectors from the space-based ICC, or Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate.


(My reaction to DW was not unlike a man who Bill and Kerry interviewed many years ago and DW was participating in that interview and the sessions with this man. I do not remember the man's name, but as I recall there was a meeting at a location in a somewhat secluded valley in North America. Bill and Kerry were for the most part behind the camera and conducting the interview.
{snip}
The man would be speaking and DW would interrupt him and say something that DW thought was relevant and insightful. Or, DW would ask a loaded question. The man's reaction to DW spoke volumes. It was apparent to me that this man thought DW was an idiot or a con man, or both. But I digress.)

This is the one that comes to mind. It's 3 part series with Dr. Pete Peterson. He made little eye contact with David. He came across as trying to impress Dr. Peterson. Every time David asked questions, they were really him going on and on with opinions. At one point Dr. Peterson says, “So the question is?”

Snippet of Pete/David exchange @ 56:11 (https://youtu.be/ooSRh7V68uk?t=56m11s).


Project Camelot interviews Dr Pete Peterson - part 1 of 3
ooSRh7V68uk

[Bill Ryan]

DW is now claiming that a Pete Peterson is one of his insider informants. Does anyone know if he is claiming this is the Dr. Pete Peterson that was interviewed by Project Camelot?
When I first heard of this, I felt very doubtful that Dr. Petetson would choose that role, and concluded it must be disinfo.

Yes. I first posted this here: (a slightly trimmed version in this reply)


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93650-Secret-Space-Program-Credibility&p=1143964&viewfull=1#post1143964

~~~



The story is told on this thread:


The Saga of Dr. Pete Peterson (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4417-The-Saga-of-Dr.-Pete-Peterson)

Pete talked to us the entire day prior to filming... 12 hours, all off-record. I still have the audio, and it's all transcribed. Much of that has never been published then or now.

Kerry got herself into deep trouble when she violated part of that on video, and we learned a year later that she literally nearly got herself killed for that. Not a joke. Peterson had to intercede.

The upshot of all this is that nothing Pete is talking to David Wilcock about would be UNsanctioned by the Pentagon. Either that, or it's so safe (or untrue!) that no sanction would be needed. Pete would never go on TV to talk about the 'real stuff'.

[RunningDeer]

In the link you provided, Michael Salla writes, “In June 2009, Petersen had first shared his testimony on a leading whistleblower site Project Camelot, and has continued to privately brief Wilcock.“

In David’s mind, he may believe Dr. Pete Peterson is his very own go-to-guy. I’m inclined to believe that Peterson is simply sharing points of view and knowledge. The phrase ‘continued to privately brief’ may be just part of the wordsmith game that egos lose themselves in.


DW is now claiming that a Pete Peterson is one of his insider informants. Does anyone know if he is claiming this is the Dr. Pete Peterson that was interviewed by Project Camelot?
When I first heard of this, I felt very doubtful that Dr. Petetson would choose that role, and concluded it must be disinfo, but I never checked into it far.

[onawah]

Thanks Bill. I remember that now from the other thread.
Any idea why Dr. Pete would be playing ball with DW?
It really seems out of character for him.

[Lancet]

Hi everyone.
Video was released on 30th May 2017 and it came up on my youtube screen.
I am putting it in general discussions as I am not sure which sub heading this comes under.
It touches on the SSP, Corey Goode and current events.
Posting this video is NOT a sign of support for Kerry or Corey or Shane. i put it up so that people are aware this video is publicly available.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvBPixD5CQ

[norman]

Thanks Bill. I remember that now from the other thread.
Any idea why Dr. Pete would be playing ball with DW?
It really seems out of character for him.


Playing ball ?

I can think of a couple of reasons why Peterson would have kept up communications with Wilcock ( having met him with Kerry and Bill ).

The first one is that Wilcock had a large 'out of the box' vocabulary'.

The second one is not complimentary.


On a different note. What if some real evidence does turn up to support the Cosmic hippies story. I don't expect it, but it's possible. Are we ready for that, or would we be like a ten man battering ram tumbling through an open doorway.

[Kristin]

On a different note. What if some real evidence does turn up to support the Cosmic hippies story. I don't expect it, but it's possible. Are we ready for that, or would we be like a ten man battering ram tumbling through an open doorway.

This brings up an important subject. Disinformation is mixed with truth as a norm when propaganda pops it's ugly head and begs us to believe it all. That is the way in which people are duped, however, we need to look at the flip side too. When propaganda is mixed with truth, very often the propaganda is discredited and the truth also becomes collateral damage. This is a very disturbing reality. In my opinion we very much need to remind people of the verifiable facts so that the truth dialog remains intact and can continue to grow.

[RunningDeer]

I almost clicked off James’ vid but the fan in me said, “Listen”. Timely review.


I See GREEN Light!

The social engineers will tell you that green lights are blue or there are five lights when there are only four. They want you to repeat their lies. They want to break you down. Don't let them. Say it with me: That is a GREEN light!


8Fd5QghJNrw

Published on May 30, 2017

[TrumanCash]

Hi everyone.
Video was released on 30th May 2017 and it came up on my youtube screen.
I am putting it in general discussions as I am not sure which sub heading this comes under.
It touches on the SSP, Corey Goode and current events.
Posting this video is NOT a sign of support for Kerry or Corey or Shane. i put it up so that people are aware this video is publicly available.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvBPixD5CQ

Thanks for posting this video, Lancet. I just watched this video and I was surprised that Kerry's comments paralleled what I wrote in a previous post on this thread (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1156644&viewfull=1#post1156644)).

I think people sometimes need to be reminded of how effective MKUltra-style of mind control is and that the victim/"whistleblower" will be entirely unaware of the programming (though the memories may return decades later). This is torture so I wish that people would temper there words to show a little compassion for these people.

I have experienced this myself two lifetimes ago when I was a German Luftwaffe pilot and was shot down over England. I can personally testify as to the effectiveness of this kind of torture--electricity + mind-altering drugs + hypnotic programming. Yes, the British knew about this kind of mind control in the 1940s so MKUltra programming is not new.

And as I have written in other posts, anyone can learn the same safe, non-hypnotic memory recovery techniques that I used to reveal the ET-created matrix by working with abductees. By doing this one does not have to rely on or waste time listening to any "government" whistleblowers or CIA-sponsored "researchers" to get at the truth.

But soap operas are addictive, so it's easier to engage in bashing the messenger than actually doing one's own research, which takes real effort, time and dedication to discovering the truth of what's really going on.

Why not take a more positive approach with hands on research instead of playing into the dark side's divisive polarity circus?

[AutumnW]

Truman,

Not criticizing or calling your own personal experiences into quesrion with regards your past lives, mind control torture etc... I don't think most of these entertainers fit the bill of victims of repressed memories, or mind control.

[we-R-one]

Truman,

Not criticizing or calling your own personal experiences into quesrion with regards your past lives, mind control torture etc... I don't think most of these entertainers fit the bill of victims of repressed memories, or mind control.

I thought Corey was a MILAB victim, did I misunderstand? just wanting to clarify here.

[PurpleLama]

Truman,

Not criticizing or calling your own personal experiences into quesrion with regards your past lives, mind control torture etc... I don't think most of these entertainers fit the bill of victims of repressed memories, or mind control.

I thought Corey was a MILAB victim, did I misunderstand? just wanting to clarify here.

CG has claimed a lot of things, some of us believe none of it.

[TargeT]

I thought Corey was a MILAB victim, did I misunderstand? just wanting to clarify here.

CG has claimed a lot of things, some of us believe none of it.

Even the mundane stuff was questionable..

I don't even believe that he worked in IT in any professional capacity after having conversations with him...

[Al Borealis]

A million kudos to you Bill for coming out with this and also for going on Daniels show with it. If anyone ever had any doubt about your sincerity and truth-seeking, this would be the final nail in that coffin. Cheers from us over at Forum Borealis :clapping:

[Billy]

Truman,

Not criticizing or calling your own personal experiences into quesrion with regards your past lives, mind control torture etc... I don't think most of these entertainers fit the bill of victims of repressed memories, or mind control.

I thought Corey was a MILAB victim, did I misunderstand? just wanting to clarify here.

This is Corey's comment from 2012 here on Avalon. Found here. Highlighted in red is the Milab comment.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?34223-DARPA-CIA-Jump-Room-To-Mars......Andrew-Basiago-28th-Oct-2011...&p=485675&viewfull=1#post485675




Weirdly enough, I had some high security soldiers claim to either have guarded these facilities from BOTH ends or worked COMBAT rotations on either end. They were serious and stone faced when telling the stories of the other side of the rabbit hole... but you could never tell when they were pulling your leg... one guy had me going about a big foot story for half a night around a camp fire just as serious once.

They were either telling me the truth to read my reaction or practicing their stoic lying skills. These were guys with no unit patches on their uniforms, only Rank and had weird numbers on their name patches and never disclosed names. These were weird stories similar to this Besagio guy... A lot of details were shared... this was before this guy came up with all of the things from MARS etc...

They told me that MARS was not the only destination that could be reached by the OLD recovered device,

(Billy here. another thought, why would anyone have to tell Corey about Mars if he had already spent 20 yrs there) :facepalm:

but the one we built was only point to point... they said a lot of the stuff in the first 3 seasons of Stargate SG1 was pretty right on (Not the first time I have heard that in the Mil... wishful thinking maybe)... but who knows... they coulda been pulling my leg. It was a good 8 hour conversation as none of us were getting any sleep that cold a$$ night with hardly any gear.

FYI, all of the SMART soldiers know to STAY AWAY from anything DARPA. It is not really even a Military organization anymore at all. All of these groups are now haunted by SPOOKS and Evil critters... Soldiers are just disposable bugs to these groups...
:spy:

I come from a long line of Military Intel family, I have been told by Mil and Civ people that I am a MILAB, but I do not quite buy it... no memories of that stuff... wife says I act out battle scenarios and shout out orders in my sleep but I was an Intel/Communications guy... so I chalk that up to watching to many movies and listening to tooo many war stories.

[RunningDeer]

They were either telling me the truth to read my reaction or practicing their stoic lying skills.
This sentence jumped out at me.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/zombie.gif

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/fire.gifhttp://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/marshmallow.gif

[Bill Ryan]

A million kudos to you Bill for coming out with this and also for going on Daniels show with it. If anyone ever had any doubt about your sincerity and truth-seeking, this would be the final nail in that coffin. Cheers from us over at Forum Borealis :clapping:

Thank you!!

Our warm greetings to you and your team, too. :star:
—> https://ForumBorealis.net (http://forumborealis.net)
—> https://youtube.com/channel/UCug8wpoDb2KWBLD6nx8Qe8A

[Flash]

Interesting comment Running Deer. My daughter came back today from a summer class in philosophy (earning some crédits), and she told me the teacher was a bit wacco. I asked why and she told me he mentioned that he was experimenting on his children, and had told his children for years that blue was in fact black. And he finds it funny because his child at school now says that blue colors are black and is all mixed up.

I think that he inadvertently does quite a disservice to his kid. I remember mine being very upset when she discovered that Santa Claus did not exist, but not because Santa Claus was a fraud, but because I had lied to her all those years, I was the fraud. She cried for hours - and I felt reaaaaally guilty.

So this philosopher is training his kid the MKUltra way???? I bet he does not even know that he is.

Imagine now being MKUltraed from childhood, yes, it demands empathy from us.


I almost clicked off James’ vid but the fan in me said, “Listen”. Timely review.


I See GREEN Light!

The social engineers will tell you that green lights are blue or there are five lights when there are only four. They want you to repeat their lies. They want to break you down. Don't let them. Say it with me: That is a GREEN light!


8Fd5QghJNrw

Published on May 30, 2017

[Hervé]

Interesting comment Running Deer. My daughter came back today from a summer class in philosophy (earning some crédits), and she told me the teacher was a bit wacco. I asked why and she told me he mentioned that he was experimenting on his children, and had told his children for years that blue was in fact black. And he finds it funny because his child at school now says that blue colors are black and is all mixed up.

[...]
See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89230-When-Vested-Interests-Take-Education-over...&p=1153507&viewfull=1#post1153507) (<---)

[Callista]

Although this is channelled material, Bill has approved my posting it on this thread and suggested this proviso:

"This is one set of unprovable assertions to counter someone else's set of unprovable assertions — but shared simply because members might find the responses quite interesting.":sun:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ZhfNh8iLQ&t=32s

The Corey Story – Questions for Cosmic Awareness

1. Are people such as Bill Ryan and Daniel Liszt deceivers with a hidden agenda against Corey Goode and those associated with him?

2. Is Corey Goode and those associated with him presenting the truth?

3. Are the Blue Avians and the Sphere Being Alliance real?

4. Who is behind Corey Goode and those associated with him?

5. Is AI and mind control involved?

6. Why have people like Michael Salla and Jordan Sather been brought into supporting Corey Goode?

7. What do people such as Bill Ryan and Daniel Liszt seek to gain by outing Corey Goode and those associated with him?

8. Who is behind Bill Ryan and Daniel Liszt?

9. Which side is right?

10. Who do I trust?

11. What is the right response to the controversy that is brewing regarding the Corey Goode camp versus the Bill Ryan/Daniel Liszt camp?

12. What is the bigger picture here?

https://rainbowphoenix.com.au

[norman]

This is from the Edgar Michell Foundation which I think is worth sharing.

Website. http://www.experiencer.org/the-abduction-experience-a-critical-evaluation-of-the-theory-and-evidence-by-stuart-apelle-ph-d/

Part Quote from here. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1544932118871556&set=a.891495037548604.1073741827.100000643498963&type=3&theater



Quoting this in full. OMG. It's actually quite a serious situation.

Whoever's making the MUFON decisions no longer deserves to be holding that position.


From: The World's current state of UFO Disclosure thread
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97463-The-Worlds-Current-State-of-UFO-Disclosure&p=1150072&viewfull=1#post1150072

what's the hold up? is it still about the petro-dollar?

Are covert agencies afraid of getting in trouble for all the secrets & money & casualties & murders to maintain secrecy?

I know this would be an audacious injustice but how about a general pardon for whistleblowers? At least it would get us closer to open discussions.




what's the hold up?

They want to put a big spin on it and use it as a powerful device of societal manipulation. The work to do that is ongoing and making steady progress but they have to be very very careful to make sure we don't throw it back in their face, stand up straight as sovereign human beings, and demand the raw truth instead. For them, that would be the worst possible outcome.

The technological implications alone, are paradigm busting. A crazy, dysfunctional, abuse damaged population, from their perspective, cannot possibly be allowed to get it's hands on such 'empowering' technology. First they must lock down the population in a global grid giving the controllers an absolute veto over everything imaginable right down to the most micro details.

Their work on progressing the global control, and the gradual revelation of their tailored version of disclosure, is a multifaceted interdependent complexity of hive mindedness. That's what the security state is. It's one big hive mind. It's not human. It's not what should be happening, not even if there is an exceptional case being pleaded, which I'm quite sure there is.

edit to add:

Catherine Austin Fitts speculates that the reason "Mr Global" is so hell bent on the completion of the absorbtion of all states into one single regime is because he wants to get a global cashless finacial system up and running, which she further speculates is effectively the basis for a neo slavery system.

That's very probably true, in that it is one aspect of the greater hive mind power house behind this attempted transition to a 'magically' high tech' world that remains fully subordinate to the same old masters.

[Innocent Warrior]

Wow, Callista, thank you so much for that video and thanks to Will and Cosmic Awareness. I am so blown away, that was encouraging, centering and confirmed so much for me, beyond what I am capable of expressing. You guys are amazing, truly, thank you. <3

[RunningDeer]

Wow, Callista, thank you so much for that video and thanks to Will and Cosmic Awareness. I am so blown away, that was encouraging, centering and confirmed so much for me, beyond what I am capable of expressing. You guys are amazing, truly, thank you. <3

...shared simply

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/write.gif Ditto here. I just finished listening. Thank you Callista, Will and Cosmic Awareness. I feel much lighter.

A side benefit of the energies, I got a flash of understanding of a personal nature, a memory shift, that had nothing to do with the topic. That too, has left me lighter. Much appreciation for the energy, the confirmations and more. ♡

[Foxie Loxie]

We all need to put our Light Energy behind Bill & Daniel! :flower:

[Omni]

Although this is channelled material...
I always find it ironic that a channeler speaks of AI and mind control when (IMO) that is probably what is controlling their mind to be able to channel in the first place... Remember the years of channelings that there wasn't a peep about it? It is because it is getting exposed now that they are presenting their own bastardized version of the truth. Take a look at those questions and read them in a CIA handler voice. Maybe that will bring perspective...


Analysis on Channeling (http://www.psyop.info/2017/05/channeled-messages-their-link-to-mind-control-programs-greg-giles-ashtar-psyop.html)

[Praxis]

I was watching Callista's video I noticed something. I know it is small but words matters.

at around 6 40
"that this individual is compromised and while it may be that he thinks he is presenting the truth it is through this compromisation or the comprising of that individual that the situation has arisen that he is being used by certain . . ."

to comprise and to compromise are two very different words. I wonder if this awareness meant to shift between words while it was shifting parts of speech.



EDIT

I just got to the end of the video and I want to add is: The Truth is Singular.

Also, "you are all children of this awareness" . By adding the definite article this, he played his hand.

I would disagree. We are children of the awareness or even with just awareness. That channeled being seems to have the same ego problems as the rest of us.

[TargeT]

its a complex thought, but makes sense when read... he was either made to be this way, or just was this way and is being used because of it...... I think the latter and I totally agree... but if the source is channeled material I never said this. (haha :P )

[Dylansdad]

Although this is channelled material...
I always find it ironic that a channeler speaks of AI and mind control when (IMO) that is probably what is controlling their mind to be able to channel in the first place... Remember the years of channelings that there wasn't a peep about it? It is because it is getting exposed now that they are presenting their own bastardized version of the truth. Take a look at those questions and read them in a CIA handler voice. Maybe that will bring perspective...


Analysis on Channeling (http://www.psyop.info/2017/05/channeled-messages-their-link-to-mind-control-programs-greg-giles-ashtar-psyop.html)

I am not willing to believe that all channeling going back a 100 years has all been part of a psyop program, although perhaps it does happen.

I have always referred to Ashtar as Ashcan. :bigsmile:

The reason the topic of channeling is appropriate on a thread about Goode and Wilcock is because the RA LAW OF ONE, a channeled 5 book series from the early 1980's, serves as a de facto spiritual base for both gentlemen (although Wilcock has admitted on GAIA that he has evangelized Goode into the material over a long period).

Since the RA LAW OF ONE has become in some minds synonymous with the Secret Space Program and the Corey and David traveling minstrel show, I wanted to share the product of my personal study of the RA LAW OF ONE.

First of all, I am NOT an adherent of the RA LAW OF ONE material. So this post is NOT a promotion of that material. However, that material has migrated into the so-called mainstream of the fringe-stream known as the New Age/UFO doctrine.

In 2016, I decided to take the RA LAW OF ONE material, which I had heard about relentlessly by Wilcock, and see what it was all about. I bought the 5 books of channeled sessions and began studying it under the tutelage of Scott Mandelker, a good friend of David Wilcock. Scott Mandelker could be considered the current high priest of the RA LAW OF ONE material. Although I never met him, I studied under him via his YOUTUBE ongoing class about the material.

I listened to 124 HOURS of Scott's tutorials on each session. Since, in typical channeled style, the language was obstruse (none of these enlightened beings seem capable of just speaking modern basic English), I started taking notes online from the start. These notes eventually became 3 sizable PDF files.

Since Scott's delivery and the source material is quite dreary at times and tedious, I began to amuse myself by inserting my own reactions in red italics. I also embedded photos that either reinforced the message or made fun of the message - since Scott is rather a pompous homophobic opinionated ass much of the time (my personal opinion obviously). He repeatedly called anyone a FOOL who did not accept the material as ultimate truth. According to Scott, no greater spiritual truth has arrived on Earth than these 5 little books.

In brief, the RA LAW OF ONE claims that there has always been alien intervention on earth, predominantly by either a well meaning (if clumsy and clueless) Service to Others Confederation of Planets versus an evil Service to Self Orion Empire. The books go into nauseating detail about the Galactic LOGOS which created the Planetary LOGOS, the 7 levels of a dimensional ladder, the 7 color vibrations that coincide with the chakras and the state of consciousness. Heady stuff. A major tenet of the books is the impending "HARVEST" of souls on Earth. Earth is going to transition to a 4th density planet (currently it is a 3rd density planet). Like traditional Christianity, a person must achieve salvation by aligning himself with the proper polarity = positive forces. Those who make the grade will also transition to the 4th density Earth. The intentionally evil people who are aligned with the negative polarity will go to a 4th density negatively aligned planet. The vast majority of humankind who have not made a choice (wishy washy people who just enjoy life as it comes instead of getting into these theological conundrums) will die and be reincarnated on other 3rd density Earth-like planets in the galaxy. So RA gives us that standard New Age Ascension doctrine. Unfortunately, RA said this would happen by 2011. But adherents are now saying it could be any day now or up to 700 years in the future. Nice out.

Soooo, I've tried my best to do the heavy lifting for you. I am going to share the 3 PDF files with you. Again, this is pertinent to the Corey Goode and David Wilcock program, a foundational base. Glance at the files, take what you want and leave the rest.

NOTE TO ADMINISTRATORS! SINCE RELATIVELY FEW PEOPLE GO TO THE FORUM WHERE CHANNELED WORKS ARE DISCUSSED, I AM PUTTING IT HERE DUE TO THE CORRESPONDENCE WITH COREY AND DAVID. (I do not have ownership of any image used in the files. I wrote the files for myself).

https://www.docdroid.net/Z4KecGQ/scott-mandelker-law-of-one-teachings-log-1.pdf.html

https://www.docdroid.net/fXP7GQY/scott-mandelker-law-of-one-teachings-log-2.pdf.html


https://www.docdroid.net/dGNxkbA/scott-mandelker-law-of-one-teachings-log-3.pdf.html

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't even believe that he worked in IT in any professional capacity after having conversations with him...
When Corey told me, in my presence, how he hurt his shoulder when a computer rack that he was moving fell in a server room, I took that to be a truthful story.

[Dylansdad]

I don't even believe that he worked in IT in any professional capacity after having conversations with him...
When Corey told me, in my presence, how he hurt his shoulder when a computer rack that he was moving fell in a server room, I took that to be a truthful story.

So he could have been a janitor or a furniture mover.

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't even believe that he worked in IT in any professional capacity after having conversations with him...
When Corey told me, in my presence, how he hurt his shoulder when a computer rack that he was moving fell in a server room, I took that to be a truthful story.

So he could have been a janitor or a furniture mover.
No - not that - he was moving the rack as part of his system admin duties.

[Atlas]

http://disclosurebackpack.com/unity-inner-earth-a-cooperative-board-game/

I'm appalled and wondering if child services should start looking into these folks...this is close to child abuse and endangerment.
Here she (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1156329&viewfull=1#post1156329) is again

Kaaree
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Kaaree_zpsrnuith8a.jpg
Posted by Corey Goode (https://www.facebook.com/thefulldisclosureproject/photos/pb.996593587096406.-2207520000.1496516558./1350495385039556/?type=3&theater):
https://scontent.frun1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17952821_1350495385039556_446611607327582471_n.jpg?oh=ab2ef7393c90f7bd6acf326f5ff725e8&oe=59A6B16B

Priestess Initiation Program: My good friend, Beth Leone, is offering a Priestess Initiation for women who are ready to embody the Divine Feminine and give their sacred gift to the world.

The initiation begins in only 4 days! and gives the concrete tools and initiations to graduate as a working priestess.

Beth offers tools from ancient lineages including the Shamanic, Angelic, Taoist, Shaolin, Qigong, Christ, Celtic, Western Magic, and the rare sacred sexual teachings from the White Tigress Taoist lineage of female masters.

This is a rare and unique opportunity. She is receiving only a handful of initiates this year.

If you are interested becoming an initiated Priestess, please review the program details here:

Priestess Path Program Details http://bethleone.net/priestess-program-for-women/

Feel free to reach out to Beth if you are interested or if you have any questions: info@bethleone.net

If you are interested please contact my good friend, Beth Leone, and let her know Corey sent you. :)

[Omni]

@Atlas. Wow. I'm speechless.....

[Atlas]

https://scontent.frun1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18342181_1746569222307533_2048625286201475961_n.jpg?oh=dc629b59fd8cbeb86adc583a5789a01e&oe=59A7F71B
FOR EARLY BIRD TICKETS CLICK HERE ---> http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/2951575

The limited discounted early bird passes will be avail for a short period of time only. The event line up and description will be launched with the official website in the next 30 days along with general ticket pricing and web streaming passes.

We will also be offering a handful of VERY LIMITED BACKSTAGE ticket packages through the Comic Disclosure crowdfunding campaign shortly.

Join Corey Goode and a select group of community leaders and speakers in Mount Shasta, CA during the "Great American Eclipse" Aug 18th - 21st at the Ford Theater COS Campus.

The "Eclipse of Disclosure" event is the flagship production of the Full Disclosure Project, a grass roots global initiative campaigning for the full disclosure of truth. We seek to bring higher consciousness speakers, artists and events together to explore the topics of TRUTH TECHNOLOGY & EQUALITY.

This event will mark the start of a unified global movement to take disclosure out of the hands of the powers that be and put them into the hands of the people. The event will be one for the history books.

You are the Alliance & We are Disclosure.

FOR ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE EMAIL sba.producer@gmail.com

https://www.facebook.com/groups/175996152925365/

[Jake]

Wow. Corey refers to Avalon as Bills Religion? While at the same time proclaiming himself as the new chosen savior,, even introducing a new priesthood?? One that you can BUY your way into, even...

My biggest problem with snake oil is that it tends to get everywhere... nasty business..

I'm absolutely delighted to see that folks have begun to track this open fraud on our community...

Jake

[Dylansdad]

http://disclosurebackpack.com/unity-inner-earth-a-cooperative-board-game/

I'm appalled and wondering if child services should start looking into these folks...this is close to child abuse and endangerment.
Here she (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1156329&viewfull=1#post1156329) is again

Kaaree
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Kaaree_zpsrnuith8a.jpg
Posted by Corey Goode (https://www.facebook.com/thefulldisclosureproject/photos/pb.996593587096406.-2207520000.1496516558./1350495385039556/?type=3&theater):
https://scontent.frun1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17952821_1350495385039556_446611607327582471_n.jpg?oh=ab2ef7393c90f7bd6acf326f5ff725e8&oe=59A6B16B

Priestess Initiation Program: My good friend, Beth Leone, is offering a Priestess Initiation for women who are ready to embody the Divine Feminine and give their sacred gift to the world.

The initiation begins in only 4 days! and gives the concrete tools and initiations to graduate as a working priestess.

Beth offers tools from ancient lineages including the Shamanic, Angelic, Taoist, Shaolin, Qigong, Christ, Celtic, Western Magic, and the rare sacred sexual teachings from the White Tigress Taoist lineage of female masters.

This is a rare and unique opportunity. She is receiving only a handful of initiates this year.

If you are interested becoming an initiated Priestess, please review the program details here:

Priestess Path Program Details http://bethleone.net/priestess-program-for-women/

Feel free to reach out to Beth if you are interested or if you have any questions: info@bethleone.net

If you are interested please contact my good friend, Beth Leone, and let her know Corey sent you. :)

Do you have to be a girl? Dang, girls get to have all the fun. :blackwidow:

[Shannon]

I listened to 124 HOURS of Scott's tutorials on each session. Since, in typical channeled style, the language was obstruse (none of these enlightened beings seem capable of just speaking modern basic English), I started taking notes online from the start. These notes eventually became 3 sizable PDF files.

Soooo, I've tried my best to do the heavy lifting for you. I am going to share the 3 PDF files with you. Again, this is pertinent to the Corey Goode and David Wilcock program, a foundational base. Glance at the files, take what you want and leave the rest.

NOTE TO ADMINISTRATORS! SINCE RELATIVELY FEW PEOPLE GO TO THE FORUM WHERE CHANNELED WORKS ARE DISCUSSED, I AM PUTTING IT HERE DUE TO THE CORRESPONDENCE WITH COREY AND DAVID. (I do not have ownership of any image used in the files. I wrote the files for myself)

https://www.docdroid.net/Z4KecGQ/scott-mandelker-law-of-one-teachings-log-1.pdf.html

https://www.docdroid.net/fXP7GQY/scott-mandelker-law-of-one-teachings-log-2.pdf.html


https://www.docdroid.net/dGNxkbA/scott-mandelker-law-of-one-teachings-log-3.pdf.html

You're notes are great! Thank you :)

[Atlas]

SSP Alien Psychic Wars with Corey Goode
63b2u2GHXqM
00:51 Military abduction (MILABS), Re-abductions (REABS), and child recruitment by the military.
11:32 Graduation to the secret space program & interfacing with ETs.
16:16 Being present for alien interrogations, across many types of beings.
19:00 Layers of the secret space program, from the Earth to Lunar Operation Command.
21:58 The control structure within.
24:18 Ancient allies with Earth civilizations--original humans and tall whites.
27:16 Misunderstanding the Anunnaki--the true “grand experiment” on Earth.
32:27 Who controls the Space Command?
37:34 Can humans fight to be sovereign for themselves on Earth--Earth Alliance.
40:31 Giant extraterrestrial spheres enter the solar system.
43:14 Enhanced behavior from an energetic presence--the secret of ‘black magic.’

https://spherebeingalliance.com/videos/sba/63b2u2GHXqM/secret-space-program-alien-psychic-wars-with-corey-goode/

https://supersoldiertalk.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/c4a3d-corey2bgoode2bwarned2bto2bback2boff2bof2bfull2bdisclosure2bnarrative252c2bpartial2bdisclosure2bof2bl ower2blevel2bsecret2bspace2bprograms2bactively2brolling2bout2b.jpg

[AutumnW]

Could the world possibly be anymore cartoonish AND tragic, at the same time? The president's a clown, the various truth movements are co-opted by jokers. ALL forms of media are laughable.

Who built the big top and created this three ring circus? 😳

[araucaria]

I don't even believe that he worked in IT in any professional capacity after having conversations with him...
When Corey told me, in my presence, how he hurt his shoulder when a computer rack that he was moving fell in a server room, I took that to be a truthful story.

So he could have been a janitor or a furniture mover.
No - not that - he was moving the rack as part of his system admin duties.
Paul, this doesn't sit well with something in Bill's opening statement;

Ilie Pandia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?998-Ilie-Pandia) (who, like Paul (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2030-Paul), knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an 'IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567
:confused:

[Sierra]

I don't even believe that he worked in IT in any professional capacity after having conversations with him...
When Corey told me, in my presence, how he hurt his shoulder when a computer rack that he was moving fell in a server room, I took that to be a truthful story.

So he could have been a janitor or a furniture mover.
No - not that - he was moving the rack as part of his system admin duties.
Paul, this doesn't sit well with something in Bill's opening statement;

Ilie Pandia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?998-Ilie-Pandia) (who, like Paul (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2030-Paul), knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an 'IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567
:confused:

Corey attempted to pass himself off as an "expert". I consider both Ilie, and Paul experts, seeing their work behind the scenes. Corey did the lowest level work one can do, and still be considered part of the IT dept. His job was to update personal computers. Back then, this consisted of walking around with a disc, and a cheat sheet. The cheat sheet would say something like:

1. Check computer is at C:/ or what ever the equivalent is in the military
2. Insert disc
3. Type the start command
4. Check drive directory of install, is the file date today's date
5. Check file size is as listed on cheat sheet
6. Start and exit the newly updated or installed program, to test install
7. Remove disc

Some cheat sheets, depending on how stupid the system and/or company configuration is, won't even have commands 1, 4, 5, and 6.

1. Insert disc
2. Type start command
3. When finished, remove disc

There is even a photograph of him somewhere, doing exactly that. And yes, that is the IT tier that would move drive racks, etc.

Screaming meemee boredom, after an hour of this, I promise you.

[PurpleLama]

Eclipse of Disclosure, huh. Obscuring disclosure, they are saying outright what they are doing.

[Bill Ryan]

UfonautRadio (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?31874-UfonautRadio) (Jesse Randolph)'s show of 1 June, 2017: 'The Tale of Corey Goode'


https://soundcloud.com/psnradio/ufonaut-radio-the-tale-of-corey-goode-06-01-2017

Download here:


http://projectavalon.net/Jesse_Randolph_Ufonaut_Radio_1_June_2017.mp3

The Corey section starts at about 11:15. Jesse put a lot of work into this.

[ThePythonicCow]

No - not that - he was moving the rack as part of his system admin duties.
Paul, this doesn't sit well with something in Bill's opening statement;

Ilie Pandia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?998-Ilie-Pandia) (who, like Paul (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2030-Paul), knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an 'IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567
:confused:

Neither Ilie nor I ever saw any evidence that Corey was skilled in the sorts of software that we (Ilie and I) are skilled in. Corey was not, so far as we ever knew, an "expert" in the sense that we mean it. But Corey did claim, in some detail, to have training and employment history in some IT jobs, and I would guess that there is (give or take some embellishment) some truth to those claims.

My guess is that Corey had some experience and some training or certificates in administering some kinds of Microsoft, Novell, VMWare, Citrix, and/or Red Hat systems. From my fading recollections of searching for his presence on computer job hunting sites, Corey was also good at preparing a resume to put his job history at various companies working in data processing server centers in the best light.

Ilie made his observation that Corey didn't seem like an IT expert to him back in late 2014 when a bizarre series of bogus claims regarding the Georgia Guidestones were sent to Van Smith and to Project Avalon (as Van documents here: http://vanshardware.com/2014/10/anonymous-message-claims-to-reveal-r-c-christian-identity-georgia-guidestones-doom-date/, and I supported in a comment on that page from "ThePythonicCow").

As best as we (Van, Ilie and myself) could connect the dots, including matching IP addresses in Van's logs with IP addresses in our Avalon logs, a key message posted on Van's website that was part of these bogus claims came from Corey Goode's PC, in the middle of the night, when Corey said that he was asleep.

Corey essentially confirmed that his PC was the source of this message on Van's website when Corey explained to Ilie in a lengthy Skype chat that his Windows PC was hacked, bringing up several of his social media accounts on the screen, and bringing up Van's website as well, showing the posting of that key message. At that time, Corey shared with Ilie a simple website of Corey's, summarizing Corey's IT experience: http://www.goodvdi.com/.

That http://www.goodvdi.com/ website of Corey's is still online, as I type this now. Here's a screen shot of part of that page:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Corey_Goode_Hypervisor_Experience_www.goodvdi.com.jpg

[Atlas]

Stacy Goode:
5RyCXXxBVgg

[Cidersomerset]

UfonautRadio (Jesse Randolph)'s show of 1 June, 2017: 'The Tale of Corey Goode'
•https://soundcloud.com/psnradio/ufon...ode-06-01-2017


Good discussion....


As a avid sci -fy fan myself , as is David Wilcock it looks like history repeating itself
and they are in danger of creating a new ' Church of Goodology' , which may be an aim ?
A lot of David's material comes from the Science fiction genre and there is a cross
over as disclosure has been used in movies such as Close encounters and others ,
also Star Trek , Star Gate , Space Above and beyond and many shows seem to
disclose possible aspects of UFO's and ET's. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89312-New-ET-and-Nazi-UFOs-Whistleblower-William-Tompkins--now-94-yrs-old-&p=1052141&viewfull=1#post1052141

David draws on this a lot and there is something to be said on this topic and it is on
going. But it seems the Goode/Wilcock meme is a step to far and can do more
harm than good. Its said there is no such thing as bad publicity , but we all
know that's not true , but there maybe positives in the sense it may bring more
people to the field and may be an opportunity to present proper research rather
than 'Entertainment' which Goode/Corey Gaia are doing competing with Marvel and DC.


When is the movie ?

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/c0/58d54d2cdc863/portrait_incredible.jpg

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/c0/58d54d2cdc863/portrait_incredible.jpg
https://img-proxy.blog-video.jp/images?url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogimg.goo.ne.jp%2Fuser_image%2F2a%2F5c%2F6a44684f42e748c9aa7a2c641a53ac83. jpg


"Not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw


If you are a Star Trek fan you will know that most of these memes have been
used by the writers in the various series....

sentient ships..'Tin Man' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708831/
http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200303/tng-168-tam-elbrun-and-data-in/320x240.jpghttp://thecia.com.au/star-trek/next-generation/3/10b1.jpg

Xindi-Avian race...
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Xindi-Avian

====================================================
====================================================

This may have been posted before but after David's emotional interview
with Kerry that David seems to have gone more fictional , in a field which
is wide open to this by definition.


David Wilcock receives DEATH THREAT ~ Important Information

fCiC7A47GCw


I enjoyed some of Davids work as I could see where he was getting
his info from but unless he can actually start backing this up it is
just science fiction imo....


There are many good cases over the years covering different aspects of this topic
here are a few and there are lots more in the archives by many members, some of
the vids have 'timed out' but should be able to find if they are still available...

These are posted for ref for any looking in , do not discuss them on this thread
please, as you will get a back on topic sign....and I know this post could have been
shorter.

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UFOs The True Story of Flying Saucers Docu - Drama released 1956 // Capt.
Mantell Related material
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85324-UFOs-The-True-Story-of-Flying-Saucers-Docu-Drama-released-1956-Capt.-Mantell-Related-material

The day UFOs stopped play......Florance Italy 1954 // UFO Files of the Italian Air Force
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76303-The-day-UFOs-stopped-play......Florance-Italy-1954-UFO-Files-of-the-Italian-Air-Force

RICHPLANET TV - The Sheffield UFO Incident - 17/03/2015 // UFO
Gatekeeper /debunkers Dr. David Clarke & Andy Roberts...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82133-RICHPLANET-TV-The-Sheffield-UFO-Incident-17-03-2015-UFO-Gatekeeper-debunkers-Dr.-David-Clarke-Andy-Roberts...

The Allagash Abductions - Charles Foltz An OpenMinds.tv Documentary
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87517-OpenMinds.tv-The-Allagash-Abductions-Talk-with-slides-of-the-Aug-20-1976-Alien-encounter

Alien hybrid DNA and ufo bloodlines - Dark Journalist & Dr. David Jacobs
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92288-Alien-hybrid-DNA-and-ufo-bloodlines-Dark-Journalist-Dr.-David-Jacobs

Is alien life EVERYWHERE ? // They Live! Yes They Do - D.Icke Podcast // Maitrix //
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94596-Is-alien-life-EVERYWHERE-They-Live--Yes-They-Do-D.Icke-Podcast-Maitrix

Caravan To Midnight - Episode 541 UFOs & Abduction with Travis Walton
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91077-Caravan-To-Midnight-Episode-541-UFOs-Abduction-with-Travis-Walton

RICHPLANET TV - UFO Researcher Gary Heseltine also on The Bunker Show - 20th Jan 2016
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88534-RICHPLANET-TV-UFO-Researcher-Gary-Heseltine-also-on-The-Bunker-Show-20th-Jan-2016
Gary Heseltine: "M.O.D UFO Reporting Closed In Deliberate Act To Break Momentum That Was Building"
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82547-Gary-Heseltine-M.O.D-UFO-Reporting-Closed-In-Deliberate-Act-To-Break-Momentum-That-Was-Building

How to Fake an Alien Invasion : Corbett Report // David Icke Videocast: Jupiter Ascending – Truth As Fiction
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79840-How-to-Fake-an-Alien-Invasion-Corbett-Report-David-Icke-Videocast-Jupiter-Ascending----Truth-As-Fiction

Uhm ! Has Ufology just gone mainstream ? BBC article , Prof Stephen Hawking
backs venture to listen for aliens
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83813-Uhm---Has-Ufology-just-gone-mainstream-BBC-article-Prof-Stephen-Hawking-backs-venture-to-listen-for-aliens&highlight=Rendlesham+Forrest

===================================================
===================================================

Stacy Goode:
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RyCXXxBVgg

When I mentioned the 'church of Goodology' above it was tongue incheek ,
but listening to Stacy and she says that they both were grand children of preachers
and Corey was studying religion. So now its taking a faith turn it makes sense
from their perspective ....

====================================================

I started listening to this interview in case they discussed Corey , which they
do not but they do have interesting discussion half way thru about Holly wood
and disclosure.....

Dark Disclosure - Jimmy Church

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HpLLtoNA0k

Published on 20 May 2017
http://freemantv.com/ ET Ambassadors, Jesuit prayers for ET, and Exoplanets,
have set the stage for open discussions about extraterrestrials. What still lays
behind the veil of Disclosure? What really happened at Fatima? Will we ever know
the truth about contact? It seems those in power know, they are here and there is
nothing we can do about it.

Along with hosting his live show, Fade to Black, Jimmy Church is also a guest-host
on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory and co-stars on History Channel's Hangar
1: The UFO Files and the time travel conspiracy show, Time Beings. Jimmy started
his career in the music business, producing bands in Hollywood back in the 'hair'
days in the 80's on the Sunset Strip...all the while studying Ufology, the
paranormal and conspiracy theory.

[ThePythonicCow]

Corey did the lowest level work one can do, and still be considered part of the IT dept. His job was to update personal computers. Back then, this consisted of walking around with a disc, and a cheat sheet. The cheat sheet would say something like:

...
There is even a photograph of him somewhere, doing exactly that. And yes, that is the IT tier that would move drive racks, etc.
I've not seen that photograph, and I don't have concrete evidence, but Sierra describes my impressions very well. Such IT personnel weren't allowed near my computers when I worked in the corporate environment, as I was one of the wizards, so I never had much contact with them. Apparently Sierra had the "pleasure" of seeing such personnel in action more than I did.

[Clear Light]

UfonautRadio (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?31874-UfonautRadio) (Jesse Randolph)'s show of 1 June, 2017: 'The Tale of Corey Goode'


https://soundcloud.com/psnradio/ufonaut-radio-the-tale-of-corey-goode-06-01-2017

Download here:


http://projectavalon.net/Jesse_Randolph_Ufonaut_Radio_1_June_2017.mp3

The Corey section starts at about 11:15. Jesse put a lot of work into this.

Ah, I very much enjoyed listening to that broadcast Bill, thanks for posting it !!!

Now, for anyone else who has listened to it, I'm sure you can't have missed the Humour running throughout it ... and it's in this vein, I'm posting the following somewhat satirical interpretation of the actions of a certain "scallywag" who is at the centre of all this mischief :


Dear oh dear ... you know what ? If I was THE "chosen delegate" to a space-faring race such as the "Blue Avians", one to whom I am in direct contact with, and given their tremendous technological prowess of literally the 1000's of their Planet-Sized Spheres that they have kindly placed in nearby space (on our behalf no less because we wouldn't be able to handle the energetic turbulence otherwise), then I would get straight "on the phone" (metaphorically speaking you understand) to ask for some advice on what to do about all the "Haters" that seem to be "spoiling the party" ... but sadly no, instead, what I'm going to do (because it really is complete bullsh1t) is to repost the same article on "reverse speech analysis" that I posted last month, as hopefully it will make all the "haters" go away so that I can get on with my comic book work in peace ... I mean honestly, is it too much to ask please ?

It seems like someone has had their feathers well and truly ruffled eh ? :bigsmile:

For reference :


35365

[ThePythonicCow]

Stacy Goode:
Here's the book that Stacy refers ot at about 26:46 into the interview:

Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One, by Dr. Joe Dispenza (http://a.co/gY8p98b)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41vZvXGOe0L.jpg

[Gemma13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RyCXXxBVgg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRP8d7hhpoQ

[Foxie Loxie]

Enjoyed the music! :Music:

[Bill Ryan]

http://projectavalon.net/The_Case_for_a_Secret_Space_Program.jpg
larger image: http://projectavalon.net/The_Case_for_a_Secret_Space_Program_lg.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

Important, re the above book cover:

Daniel Liszt (the 'Dark Journalist') asked me to post this statement by Jim Nichols (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/bio.html), UFO illustrator and researcher.

~~~



"In regard to the new book about Secret Space and the claims of Corey Goode, although my artwork appears on the cover, I was never approached by the book's publishers for permission to use my art, which in this instance is totally UNAUTHORIZED.

As well, I want it clearly understood that use of my art should in NO WAY suggest inference that I support and/or endorse the SSP claims of Corey Goode."

[Dylansdad]

I don't even believe that he worked in IT in any professional capacity after having conversations with him...
When Corey told me, in my presence, how he hurt his shoulder when a computer rack that he was moving fell in a server room, I took that to be a truthful story.

So he could have been a janitor or a furniture mover.
No - not that - he was moving the rack as part of his system admin duties.
Paul, this doesn't sit well with something in Bill's opening statement;

Ilie Pandia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?998-Ilie-Pandia) (who, like Paul (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2030-Paul), knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an 'IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567
:confused:

Corey attempted to pass himself off as an "expert". I consider both Ilie, and Paul experts, seeing their work behind the scenes. Corey did the lowest level work one can do, and still be considered part of the IT dept. His job was to update personal computers. Back then, this consisted of walking around with a disc, and a cheat sheet. The cheat sheet would say something like:

1. Check computer is at C:/ or what ever the equivalent is in the military
2. Insert disc
3. Type the start command
4. Check drive directory of install, is the file date today's date
5. Check file size is as listed on cheat sheet
6. Start and exit the newly updated or installed program, to test install
7. Remove disc

Some cheat sheets, depending on how stupid the system and/or company configuration is, won't even have commands 1, 4, 5, and 6.

1. Insert disc
2. Type start command
3. When finished, remove disc

There is even a photograph of him somewhere, doing exactly that. And yes, that is the IT tier that would move drive racks, etc.

Screaming meemee boredom, after an hour of this, I promise you.

EXACTLY! I managed an IT group for almost 20 years. One segment of that group were extremely well paid professional programmers, often with advanced IT degrees. These people were categorized as second tier managers which came with a low 6 figure income. The other segment was in the data operations center and comprised of non-management humbly paid employees. These employees only had knowledge of IT from on-the-job training and basically followed the orders that I would write up for the group (having a dual role as ongoing Project Manager and Technical Writer). So Corey would be a fellow in a data center who basically just followed the orders of the "people with brains". They did the grunt work in the operations center, i.e., monitoring the software systems in progress, moving racks, setting up servers, loading tapes and disks according to a schedule provided to them.

Humans being humans, both teams were very antagonistic to each other. My computer programmers (Known as software engineers then) considered the data operations center employees to be morons and walking robots. The latter people in the data operations center thought the programmers were elitist jerks who didn't really do any work (because programmers didn't lift and move physical objects).

[Dylansdad]

Stacy Goode:
Here's the book that Stacy refers ot at about 26:46 into the interview:

Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One, by Dr. Joe Dispenza (http://a.co/gY8p98b)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41vZvXGOe0L.jpg

Oh wonderful! Another credible source. Dispenza has been a long term RAMTHA (channeled entity by J Z Knight) devotee and was on the Board at their Yelm, WA compound. Very much WOO WOO. I actually have read this book and it is quite interesting and in many ways is a textbook on the brain. But he has very suspicious connections to the RAMTHA cult, which tells ME something about him.

For awhile about 10 years ago he was making the speaker rounds at UNITY churches. Unity is a New Thought church that often acts as a brokerage firm for woo woo ideas. Deepak Chopra is a favorite, if that gives you a clue what type of speakers are popular there. If you can take a woo woo idea and apply a little science to it, e.g., the quantum theory and past lives, you will be booked.

[RunningDeer]

http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/Dark-Journalist/Dear-God-Corey.jpg

[Foxie Loxie]

It's the ages old story of people being drawn into a Belief System, only to be hurt in the end when something "wakes them up"! I am a prime example of that, only in the religious context.....or maybe this group IS a new religion! :idea:

[TargeT]

I got an interesting comment on my youtube page (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMcSLzY6elA&lc=z13jjnvoevfpgbtoy04cclextvywvf3wmhg.1496781313177899)..



I know this is totally not connected to anything but.... Have any of you here read the sci fi Hugo award winning series of books called the Expanse? It was written in 2010 by two German authors that co-authored the book under the pen name James Corey. Its now a Sci Fi hit Tv series They had some neat tech in the books and TV show They had glass pads or tubes that healed people They had these neat hand held like computers that were their own mainframe and were like ipads which were transparent that were mind triggered. ......... can't do wifi nor regular stuff we do these days with those distances between Jupiter and earth They had bases on the moon and mars and did mining on asteroids including Ceres The population outside of earth was at 50 million Funny how people have to change their names, either in Hollywood or in literature because somebody already has that name. carry on..............

Followed by:

Which came first?............ I think the Germans did in this case, though it was translated to english in 2011. ............I'm sure its all just a coincidence.


I found this very interesting, perhaps something to study a bit....

[Atlas]

Goode/Corey Gaia are doing competing with Marvel and DC.

When is the movie ?
Check this out: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94467-3-new-films-Valerian-Ghost-in-the-Shell-Assassin-s-Creed&p=1158122&viewfull=1#post1158122

[Dylansdad]

UfonautRadio (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?31874-UfonautRadio) (Jesse Randolph)'s show of 1 June, 2017: 'The Tale of Corey Goode'


https://soundcloud.com/psnradio/ufonaut-radio-the-tale-of-corey-goode-06-01-2017

Download here:


http://projectavalon.net/Jesse_Randolph_Ufonaut_Radio_1_June_2017.mp3

The Corey section starts at about 11:15. Jesse put a lot of work into this.

Actually, I found a location where you can see a list of previous episodes. I have a system recorder that records the audio of anything I play so that is my way of creating my own copy of a program that does not appear upfront to be downloadable. Such tools are very cheap or free for such situations. Thanks for the downloadable version of this particular episode. I'll have to search for other downloadable episodes for this program.

https://soundcloud.com/psnradio/sets/ufonaut-radio

[Atlas]

https://missiongalacticfreedom.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/coreygoodetxsgimagegeneral.png

http://geeknation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/life-poster020517.jpg

Here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94467-3-new-films-Valerian-Ghost-in-the-Shell-Assassin-s-Creed&p=1158177&viewfull=1#post1158177

[Dylansdad]

I got an interesting comment on my youtube page (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMcSLzY6elA&lc=z13jjnvoevfpgbtoy04cclextvywvf3wmhg.1496781313177899)..



I know this is totally not connected to anything but.... Have any of you here read the sci fi Hugo award winning series of books called the Expanse? It was written in 2010 by two German authors that co-authored the book under the pen name James Corey. Its now a Sci Fi hit Tv series They had some neat tech in the books and TV show They had glass pads or tubes that healed people They had these neat hand held like computers that were their own mainframe and were like ipads which were transparent that were mind triggered. ......... can't do wifi nor regular stuff we do these days with those distances between Jupiter and earth They had bases on the moon and mars and did mining on asteroids including Ceres The population outside of earth was at 50 million Funny how people have to change their names, either in Hollywood or in literature because somebody already has that name. carry on..............

Followed by:

Which came first?............ I think the Germans did in this case, though it was translated to english in 2011. ............I'm sure its all just a coincidence.


I found this very interesting, perhaps something to study a bit....

Thanks for the link to your YOUTUBE page for us newbies. I see that there is someone from Avalon there defending Saint Corey Goode. I'm the guy who said this woman is hilarious.

[Wind]

I wonder how popular Corey would have been if he kept his old sleazy salesman-look.

https://thedynamicstate.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/corey-goode-2.png?w=273&h=321

I wouldn't buy a car from that dude.

[Spiral]

That pic is so old it's actually a well used meme...

http://projectavalon.net/corey-goode-blueavian-hey-ladies-dont-be-a-hatin-my-pay-pals-awaitin_sm.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/corey-goode-blueavian-why-do-birds-suddenly-appear-everytime-he-is-near_sm.jpg





Mod note from Bill: yes, but this is a research thread, primarily. A lot of non-forum members are viewing this for good information. Let's keep the discussion standard high.

:thumbsup:

[RunningDeer]

Followed by:

Which came first?............ I think the Germans did in this case, though it was translated to english in 2011. ............I'm sure its all just a coincidence.

I found this very interesting, perhaps something to study a bit....

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/Peter22.jpg


I delete the comment above in case it was someone posing as Peter Petersen. It was in the comment section (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvBPixD5CQ&t=432s) where Corey trolled hard with the same long post in the Dark Journalist “Part Three” video. Corey added it four times along with a few others. I checked today. He’s removed all but one long one. The Pete Petersen comment is still there.

This was one of Corey’s other ones from four days ago which is also gone.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/free-rent.jpg

Typo 'hear' = ‘year'.

As mentioned in the Stacy video, there were two hefty donations @ 49:54 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=49m54s), so they could live for a year in their new place. Free rent is nothing to sneeze at. I’d prefer to hear attitude of gratitude from the sole ambassador of Planet Earth.

Corey also played the blame-game towards 3-4 people in the long post AND 3 more from Project Avalon. Stacey said Corey installed video equipment to catch them. Corey, who are they?

A few other questions from Stacey’s video:

How did Corey know they were from Project Avalon? He has a habit of naming names, why not now? Or provide footage? @ 48:34 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=48m34s)

Why didn’t he install the equipment earlier for proof of activity of the 3rd kind? Or a photo? Or photos of the needle marks in the back of his neck? @ 42:43 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=40m44s)

Why didn’t they take a snapshot or video footage of the triangle markings in their back yard and Corey’s one foot print to and one from the ‘craft’? @ 31:38 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=31m38s)


Stacy Goode Exclusive: Wife of Secret Space Program Insider
5RyCXXxBVgg

[Atlas]

http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/t/h/thankyouveryplz.gif RunningDeer

The End is coming, we'll take it from here.....

MMKNSUv8cNY


Rock On

[PathWalker]

I wish to share this video from Project Camelot:
qsvBPixD5CQ

Kerry discuss with Shane the dynamics and event in the alternative media.
She details her history with Corey Good and her perspective on the affair.

PathWalker's assertion that Goode is a controlled asset is verified by Kerry.
Do not spill the baby with the water. Some of his information is valid, and Kerry explains what she believe is disinfo.
Valuable lessons for discern techniques, and intelligence analysis.

This information correlate and synchronized with latest research from Dark Journalist in this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97897-Dark-Journalist-A-Six-Part-Series-on-The-New-Age-Deep-State&p=1155278&viewfull=1#post1155278)thread.

A gem discussion for conspiracy researchers.




Mod note from Bill: Thanks, but merged. It's actually already been posted and discussed both on this thread, and also on Dark Journalist - A Six Part Series on The New Age Deep State (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97897-Dark-Journalist-A-Six-Part-Series-on-The-New-Age-Deep-State). Yet another thread would only split existing discussions further.

To check whether a video you know of has already been posted, use the YouTube video code following "watch?v=" (in this case "qsvBPixD5CQ"), as a term to search for, just like a word. You'll see all the threads or posts where it's already been shared.

:thumbsup:
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97897-Dark-Journalist-A-Six-Part-Series-on-The-New-Age-Deep-State)

[Nasu]

Thanks for posting. Shame he ruined it so much. He has zero cred. He's looking for value and ears in a world that values him at zero, IMHO..... N

[vortexpoint]

Thanks for posting. Shame he ruined it so much. He has zero cred. He's looking for value and ears in a world that values him at zero, IMHO. Sorry typo, Shane the ruiner I mean.... N

I would be interested to know few things. why Kerry still sees him as a credible source? Why he still continues his act? And while we`re at it, why Avalon mods were so quick to endorse him in the first place when there never was any proof?

[Bill Ryan]

while w're at it, why Avalon mods were so quick to endorse him in the first place when there never was any proof?

I think the sequence was this:


Paul first spotted 'The Ruiner's Blog' and shared it on a new thread, thinking it would be interesting to members (and it was).
Then, Paul discovered that this was Shane Bales, an existing Avalon member. But no problem there.
Then, the mods (and others) started seeing problems in the story... not at first, but later, as Shane released more information.
Finally, I raised a large red flag, with the full agreement of the mods team here. (Shane is technically still a member here, btw.)

If none of the mods (or anyone else!) ever posted anything on Avalon "when there never was any proof" (your words! :P ), there might not be all that much on the forum!

One of the frequent general forum sequences is:

1. Post something new and interesting that has some, little, or no evidence.
2. An intelligent discussion ensues.
3. More evidence surfaces.
4. Sometimes, conclusions are reached.

That's kind of like science. :)

:focus:

[Pam]

Followed by:

Which came first?............ I think the Germans did in this case, though it was translated to english in 2011. ............I'm sure its all just a coincidence.

I found this very interesting, perhaps something to study a bit....

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Peter_zpszyafxliu.jpg

I delete the comment above in case it was someone posing as Peter Petersen. It was in the comment section (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvBPixD5CQ&t=432s) where Corey trolled hard with the same long post in the Dark Journalist “Part Three” video. Corey added it four times along with a few others. I checked today. He’s removed all but one long one. The Pete Petersen comment is still there.

This was one of Corey’s other ones from four days ago which is also gone.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/free-rent_zps8aas2d7r.jpg

Typo 'hear' = ‘year'.

As mentioned in the Stacy video, there were two hefty donations @ 49:54 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=49m54s), so they could live for a year in their new place. Free rent is nothing to sneeze at. I’d prefer to hear attitude of gratitude from the sole ambassador of Planet Earth.

Corey also played the blame-game towards 3-4 people in the long post AND 3 more from Project Avalon. Stacey said Corey installed video equipment to catch them. Corey, who are they?

A few other questions from Stacey’s video:

How did Corey know they were from Project Avalon? He has a habit of naming names, why not now? Or provide footage? @ 48:34 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=48m34s)

Why didn’t he install the equipment earlier for proof of activity of the 3rd kind? Or a photo? Or photos of the needle marks in the back of his neck? @ 42:43 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=40m44s)

Why didn’t they take a snapshot or video footage of the triangle markings in their back yard and Corey’s one foot print to and one from the ‘craft’? @ 31:38 (https://youtu.be/5RyCXXxBVgg?t=31m38s)


Stacy Goode Exclusive: Wife of Secret Space Program Insider
5RyCXXxBVgg


RunningDeer, I just love it when you use your logic and wonderful sleuthing skills...Anyone that is fabricating stories and stupid enough to put their saga on the internet doesn't stand a chance against you. Keep up the good work!!!

[Paprika]

UfonautRadio (Jesse Randolph)'s show of 1 June, 2017: 'The Tale of Corey Goode'
•https://soundcloud.com/psnradio/ufon...ode-06-01-2017


Good discussion....


As a avid sci -fy fan myself , as is David Wilcock it looks like history repeating itself
and they are in danger of creating a new ' Church of Goodology' , which may be an aim ?
A lot of David's material comes from the Science fiction genre and there is a cross
over as disclosure has been used in movies such as Close encounters and others ,
also Star Trek , Star Gate , Space Above and beyond and many shows seem to
disclose possible aspects of UFO's and ET's. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89312-New-ET-and-Nazi-UFOs-Whistleblower-William-Tompkins--now-94-yrs-old-&p=1052141&viewfull=1#post1052141

David draws on this a lot and there is something to be said on this topic and it is on
going. But it seems the Goode/Wilcock meme is a step to far and can do more
harm than good. Its said there is no such thing as bad publicity , but we all
know that's not true , but there maybe positives in the sense it may bring more
people to the field and may be an opportunity to present proper research rather
than 'Entertainment' which Goode/Corey Gaia are doing competing with Marvel and DC.


When is the movie ?

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/c0/58d54d2cdc863/portrait_incredible.jpg

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/c0/58d54d2cdc863/portrait_incredible.jpg
https://img-proxy.blog-video.jp/images?url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogimg.goo.ne.jp%2Fuser_image%2F2a%2F5c%2F6a44684f42e748c9aa7a2c641a53ac83. jpg


"Not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw


If you are a Star Trek fan you will know that most of these memes have been
used by the writers in the various series....

sentient ships..'Tin Man' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708831/
http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200303/tng-168-tam-elbrun-and-data-in/320x240.jpghttp://thecia.com.au/star-trek/next-generation/3/10b1.jpg

Xindi-Avian race...
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Xindi-Avian

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I'm probably not the only one here who has fond childhood memories of Jim Henson’s Dark Crystal. Today I found myself reading about it with much excitement as a new prequel series is scheduled to debut on Netflix soon. This may not be anything, but I just had to share because it made me scrunch my face and raise an eyebrow. As quoted above, this is certainly not the first meme to appear in regards to this CG/DW saga, and now I add another of The Skeksis: "The Skeksis had scaley, reptilian bodies, with beak-like jaws and hooded eyes, When they first appeared, the Skeksis were vibrant, agile and brightly coloured creatures." It got me thinking... Blue Avians? Birds? Perhaps these Blue Avians are not birds at all, rather reptilian. The Skeksis Generals and Emperors all appear blue, ironically enough.

The Dark Crystal lore definitely harbors similarities to some of these tales we are told: http://darkcrystal.wikia.com/wiki/Skeksis

http://www.darkcrystal.com/galleries_skeksis.php

http://www.darkcrystal.com/site_images/gallery_images/DC_DCP164.jpg

http://www.darkcrystal.com/site_images/gallery_images/DC_DCP162.jpg

http://www.darkcrystal.com/site_images/gallery_images/DC_DCP359.jpg

[RunningDeer]

RunningDeer, I just love it when you use your logic and wonderful sleuthing skills...Anyone that is fabricating stories and stupid enough to put their saga on the internet doesn't stand a chance against you. Keep up the good work!!!
Thanks, peterpam. I forced myself to only do a RunningDeer-lite.

A few more and I’ll stop because part of me is in conflicted with picky, picky, picky, and the desire to educate the naive. That and I'm REALLY tired of Corey's oh woe is me.


Stacey says all this stuff is new. Yet she talks of downloads and mind wipes. Coached much?
Stacey blindly goes along when Corey feeds her the headlight story. How he just happens to be awake to catch three Avalonians come to harass the family at 2:30 a.m.
Why allow three Avalonians to shine a flashlight into their daughter’s room? And flood the yard with the water hose?
Why didn’t Corey go out to protect his family or at the very least call 911 on those three nasty Avalonian imps?
Strange how Stacey only learned of her husband’s blue bubble adventures when she finally got around to watch Corey on GaiamTV.
Why did Stacey use her children's names around the same segment where she said they were forced to move for safety of their family?
Corey says, “I am paid very little. Shockingly so.” News flash Corey...it’s no different for many. Might be time to dust off Stacey’s biology degree.
“I am paid very little. Shockingly so.” Then why fly the whole family to Hawaii for a week long vacation?
Family of four live rent free for a year in a beautiful home. Corey, have you donated to others?


Full stop. :blushing:

[TrumanCash]

My only questions at this point is how many other Earth inhabitants claim to have contact with "Blue Avians" or "Sphere Beings" and who are they?

I don't know of any on the internet. I haven't followed much of this circus as I came to my conclusions at the onset on another forum when communicating with him and I have better things to do.

If there are no other people who are reporting contact with "Blue Avians" and "Sphere Beings", then I have a problem wrapping my mind around the idea that these alleged "ETs" would put all their eggs in this one basket only contacting one person on this planet.

One could likewise ask how many people report contact/abductions with Grays, Reptilians, Mantids and human-looking ETs, for example?

[Dylansdad]

My only questions at this point is how many other Earth inhabitants claim to have contact with "Blue Avians" or "Sphere Beings" and who are they?

I don't know of any on the internet. I haven't followed much of this circus as I came to my conclusions at the onset on another forum when communicating with him and I have better things to do.

If there are no other people who are reporting contact with "Blue Avians" and "Sphere Beings", then I have a problem wrapping my mind around the idea that these alleged "ETs" would put all their eggs in this one basket only contacting one person on this planet.

One could likewise ask how many people report contact/abductions with Grays, Reptilians, Mantids and human-looking ETs, for example?

I would like to suggest that with Corey's increasing popularity there might be wanna be's who will start reporting their own contacts with the Blue Jays From Space. In fact, I have heard of one person who claims to be having such contacts, but cannot recall the name or details. Actually, it would be a fascinating social experiment to simply make up a type of alien and spread stories. Then wait for the "corroborating evidence" from other people who want to hitch a ride. For example, it seem that no matter what the latest trend in ufology may be, often Whitley Strieber (in an attempt to stay relevant?) proclaims that HE also has had such experiences in the past (but never bothered to mention them until now). The problem with seeking corroboration for Corey is that he has said repeatedly that HE is the only contact, nipping in the bud the ability of people to freely join in as fellow avian contactees. I suspect that Corey and David Wilcock would denounce anyone who tried to run with their story, claiming that he/she also was a contact. They would perhaps see this as competition for "fringe" dollars. Can't you just hear them both saying that such a person was a disinformation agent sent to dilute the truth?

Honestly, if someone with a lot of charisma (something Corey totally lacks) were to become the new Contactee Diva, and claimed to be in contact with pink hippos wearing tutus from the Arcturian Federation of water planets, there would probably be others jumping on the bandwagon with their own stories. LOL

The difference between Corey's Blue Sparrows from Space versus Greys, Reptilians and Mantis beings is that no one has a de facto copywrite on the latter creatures, whereas Corey pretty much owns the Blue Turkey Vultures from Space narrative.

[Atlas]

http://www.darkcrystal.com/site_images/gallery_images/DC_DCP162.jpg
The Ogattans are said to be a short humanoid bird-like aliens extremely friendly and spiritually orientated, from a planet of prismatic domed communities of crystalline material surrounded by crystal forests emanating rainbow colored auras permeated by the harmonics of the music of the spheres. These E.T.s are said to be helping small numbers of humans on Earth with divine guidance, very low-key, and they have taken many small children from here to their planet for schooling, where they viewed a Destiny Screen showing future Earth events many of which have already come true!

http://www.starbeingsofgod.com/the-bird-people.html
http://www.starbeingsofgod.com/uploads/8/1/5/1/8151597/8331515.jpg?430

[Malgorzata]

Just a strange question perhaps....but did you notice that Daniel Liszt does't blink in his videos? It is very difficult not to do that during a long time, especially when you speak. It was pointed out to me yesterday and I went to see the videos myself and yes... ! Has anyone else noticed that? And why do you think that might be?

I am posting his recent video here...by the way, very interesting! It is an interview with someone who has participated in Corey Good's events.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/225260575

[Kristin]

Interesting interview, I would like to see more people step out to make comments and describe their personal dealings with Corey and team. There are many people in the community being duped and I am glad that the information can be separated from the man. A lot of good research from others exists in Corey's narrative. If this narrative is disassembled, what bones are left if any?

In this case of Corey; the man simply is NOT the message. Take a look at how Corey - rather then just sticking to his story - lashes out against people and may even make up stories to prove his "victimhood". Well, I would suggest that if he is being visited by beings that perhaps these beings themselves are being deceptive. There is a lot of smoke here. Does he have contact with anything at all? What/who guides Corey? What motivates him?

I find it very hard to swallow that Corey would be chosen in the first place for any type of galactic position akin to disclosure. So, one should ask "If so, then why James Corey Goode?" Are there other agendas? What is the benefit of controlling the disclosure narrative? Who is being targeted by the message? (children and young adults). If Corey is no longer useful to this narrative, will he be replaced? Will this story continue without him?

[Gemma13]

My only questions at this point is how many other Earth inhabitants claim to have contact with "Blue Avians" or "Sphere Beings" and who are they?

I don't know of any on the internet. I haven't followed much of this circus as I came to my conclusions at the onset on another forum when communicating with him and I have better things to do.

If there are no other people who are reporting contact with "Blue Avians" and "Sphere Beings", then I have a problem wrapping my mind around the idea that these alleged "ETs" would put all their eggs in this one basket only contacting one person on this planet.

One could likewise ask how many people report contact/abductions with Grays, Reptilians, Mantids and human-looking ETs, for example?

You may be interested in this article – well worth the read for how some scholars interpret religious text/mythology.

http://www.williamhenry.net/2016/06/the-blue-avians-and-blue-sphere-beings-do-you-know-what-love-can-do/


When I first heard Corey’s story, I thought, wow, he’s talking about two of my favorite subjects; the Bird Tribe and the blue sphere wormholes or ascension spheres of the ancients. Any minute now I thought he might get into some of the ancient beliefs about these subjects.

By the way, neither of these subjects are out of scifi magazines. That is, unless you read the ancient Egyptian religious texts, Hindu literature, Native American spiritual tradition and the Bible as scifi and interpret Christian art portraying the ascension of Jesus on a blue sphere as fantasy art.

Clare and I discussed aspects of these topics, especially the blue spheres, in an episode of our ARCANUM series called “Ascension Thrones of the Ancients.” I revisited the subject directly in an episode of THE AWAKENED SOUL called “The Blue Sphere and the Soul.”

After seeing my show, and the historical art I presented, the Gaia producers immediately booked the interview with Corey and David. What I was saying corroborates Corey story, they said.

[……….]

I have been collecting images of the ascended Christ in a blue sphere. The meaning is clear. The blue sphere is to be imagined as a portal or gateway. I wondered if this is what Corey meant by the blue sphere beings.


WILLIAM HENRY PROFILE AT GAIA: https://www.gaia.com/person/william-henry
Using his unique ability to incorporate historical, spiritual, and scientific into his factually-based theories, William Henry is an investigative mythologist who focuses on ancient mythology and neo-archeology. As the host of the Gaia TV series "The Awakened Soul: The Lost Science of Ascension," Henry is an internationally recognized authority on human spiritual potential, transformation, and ascension. For over 25 years, William Henry has pursued the startling, but undeniable fact, that there is a seamless tradition of arcane symbolism throughout history and across widely diverse cultures. His tireless research shows that these symbols prove the existence of portals and gateways to the stars. As a spiritual voice on ancient aliens, Henry is a trusted guide to the secrets of soul transfiguration and the sacred science of human ascension. Providing the layperson with an in-depth understanding of the profound shift we are experiencing in our lifetime, William Henry's research on stargates in ancient art, myth and texts appears in 18 books and numerous DVDs, including the best-selling Stargate Mythology series. In this series, Henry hypothesizes that the ancients possessed advanced stargate technology and wormhole science; a sacred science that we are just about to reclaim. Ultimately, William Henry hopes to uncover the guarded secrets of groups such as the Illuminati. Once that happens, everything changes for everyone.

[TargeT]

Just a strange question perhaps....but did you notice that Daniel Liszt doesn´t close his eyes/move his lashes in his videos? It is very difficult not to do that during a long time, especially when you speak. It was pointed out to me yesterday and I went to see the videos myself and yes... ! Has anyone else noticed that? And why do you think that might be?


probably just trying to hard to "be" his persona: the dark journalist... there's a bit of stagecraft to it.

[Dylansdad]

Just a strange question perhaps....but did you notice that Daniel Liszt doesn´t close his eyes/move his lashes in his videos? It is very difficult not to do that during a long time, especially when you speak. It was pointed out to me yesterday and I went to see the videos myself and yes... ! Has anyone else noticed that? And why do you think that might be?


probably just trying to hard to "be" his persona: the dark journalist... there's a bit of stagecraft to it.

Nah, that is too mundane an explanation. He is obviously an android drone whose blink function needs repair by the CABAL. Be very afraid. LOL

[Flash]

Just a strange question perhaps....but did you notice that Daniel Liszt doesn´t close his eyes/move his lashes in his videos? It is very difficult not to do that during a long time, especially when you speak. It was pointed out to me yesterday and I went to see the videos myself and yes... ! Has anyone else noticed that? And why do you think that might be?


probably just trying to hard to "be" his persona: the dark journalist... there's a bit of stagecraft to it.

also, his interviews are thorougly prepared, he has had pre-interviews (obvious by the questions he asks), his questions and comments script are prepared for the live interview, and he his reading the scripted questions while asking them. That might be a reason for eyes clinging absence.

However, in the non verbal language know how, we learn that eye clinging shows a relating Relationship to the other party, in which case dark journalist would not have. And this may be the truth, he may just be doing its job.

--------------------

What i retain from this last interview is that we are dealing with heavy pot heads who are seeing blue avians space farers.

Heavy pot usage can bring one to mental dysfonctions if the subject is already predisposed genetically to mental disorder (in a research being done in a closed in location in northern Québec, the first results are demonstrating a strong correlation between heavy pot usage and physical brain anomalies often related to mental illness in a certain percentage of users, but only in males, and only in some users. Researchers do not know yet what causes the différences http://www.lapresse.ca/sciences/medecine/201705/31/01-5103076-effets-du-cannabis-1000-sagueneens-sous-la-loupe-des-chercheurs.php).

[Shadowself]

A fable of Classical Greek origin ascribed to Aesop



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8uD8C1RLMk

[Dylansdad]

I offer this article on sociopaths without comment, except that posting this in a Corey Goode thread speaks for itself.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html#

[Daozen]

:facepalm:

If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.

[RunningDeer]

Just a strange question perhaps....but did you notice that Daniel Liszt doesn´t blink in his videos? It is very difficult not to do that during a long time, especially when you speak. It was pointed out to me yesterday and I went to see the videos myself and yes... ! Has anyone else noticed that? And why do you think that might be?

I am posting his recent video here...byt the way, very interesting! It is an interview with someone who has participated in Corey Goode´s events.
Malgorzata, you may be interested in the video that Callista posted (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98267-Sarah-Westall-Dark-Journalist-Exclusive-Deep-State-Secret-Space-Program-Corey-Goode-Mass-Media&p=1159295&viewfull=1#post1159295). Daniel Liszt is a guest with a more natural exchange. The Corey Goode/David Wilcock topic comes up a little after 28 minutes.


Dark Journalist Exclusive, Deep State, Secret Space Program, Corey Goode, Mass Media
GjrLNVL7OLY

[OnyxKnight]

Sometimes I wonder about the domino effect, and wish I never mentioned any blue avians to begin with. The world would have been spared of the two-legged blue cocks.

[Malgorzata]

For those who don´t know me, and that would be 99% of you in here, I run a Youtube Channel in Spanish where I make videos about these kinds of subjects, and right now I am doing the summary of the information that comes out in the English speaking world for the Spanish audience since, as you may know or may not know, Corey Goode has huge following in the Spanish speaking countries. I recently uploaded the summary of Bill Ryan´s interview with Daniel Liszt and now I am making a summary of Daniel´s series. I make it in Spanish but here I am sharing with you the video I just uploaded, the intro to the summary of Daniel Liszt´s series, which I made English subtitles to. I am making some clarifications about some most typical objections I hear. There are so many naive people within the Spanish audience.

Greetings to all of you, free thinkers! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-X8CR4V5OY

[Kristin]

:facepalm:

If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.

Would you please enlighten us and expand upon this topic? Thank you.

[Foxie Loxie]

Wishing you all the best on your "mission", Malgorzata, & glad you are taking this upon yourself to do so! :clapping:

[Dylansdad]

Am I the only person who suspects that all Corey's accidents could simply be caused by excessive alcohol or drug intake? I don't understand why a greatly enlightened soul like Corey would need to dull his mind and body with alcohol and drugs, but I guess it is hard being the world's savior.

[Flash]

Very instructive article and sooooo true.

i am so happy that such articles are now surfacing. 15 years ago, when I was researching sociopath and narcissists, there was about nothing on the web or in books. Now we can read and comprehend.

The difficult point for layman and ordinary good folks is to accept to change their beliefs systems and integrate the fact that psychopaths have no heart whatosoever, that they be a serial killer or a high level CEO, they just do not care about people and their inner measure of success is how many people they conned and how much money they made from it (in the end, how much power they have, since it gives them thrill, compensating for the true emotions they do not have, like most humans).

Please, integrate in your beliefs system that they do exist, and that you do no know someone who is psychopath (4% of the population).


I offer this article on sociopaths without comment, except that posting this in a Corey Goode thread speaks for itself.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html#

[Flash]

Malgorzata, you should upoad and translate in Spanish the excellent article about psychopaths that Dylansdad has put up. This, all Central/South America, having been Under the spell of dictatorships and psychopaths, would understand. My opinion. Thanks for the excellent work, I did listen to the video you made.


For those who don´t know me, and that would be 99% of you in here, I run a Youtube Channel in Spanish where I make videos about these kinds of subjects, and right now I am doing the summary of the information that comes out in the English speaking world for the Spanish audience since, as you may know or may not know, Corey Goode has huge following in the Spanish speaking countries. I recently uploaded the summary of Bill Ryan´s interview with Daniel Liszt and now I am making a summary of Daniel´s series. I make it in Spanish but here I am sharing with you the video I just uploaded, the intro to the summary of Daniel Liszt´s series, which I made English subtitles to. I am making some clarifications about some most typical objections I hear. There are so many naive people within the Spanish audience.

Greetings to all of you, free thinkers! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-X8CR4V5OY

[Bill Ryan]

:facepalm:

If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.

Would you please enlighten us and expand upon this topic? Thank you.

Dianne Robbins. That would be this book:


https://diannerobbins.com/telos.html

[Dylansdad]

:facepalm:

If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.

Would you please enlighten us and expand upon this topic? Thank you.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Dianne+Robbin&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ADianne+Robbin

Lots of books about the Hollow Earth and contact with inner-civilizations.

[RunningDeer]

:facepalm:

If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.

I've read four books by Dianne Robbins:

HollowEarth
Telos
Tree Talk
Cetacean

It's been awhile. (2011) I don't recall blue Avians or bubbles in space. In fairness, I haven't followed Corey's travels enough to compare to Dianne Robbins material.

The summer of 1986, I wrote a novel that came from power naps, reflections and pictures that floated across my mind. It was before I had a quality computer, which came from "Radio Shack" and it held no data. So, I backed up my work onto a tape recorder that converted the computer language on to it.

It’d be years later when I came upon Diane Robbins' material and saw similarities to what I wrote. Whether it was past life recall, downloads or what… (one can only speculate). http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/noidea.gif

[norman]

I offer this article on sociopaths without comment, except that posting this in a Corey Goode thread speaks for itself.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html#

Here's a woppa to contemplate. Think of it on a big societal scale not just as a backward reflection on some sicko behind bars.


#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it! Errr.. don't we hear a lot about this kind of thing in the new age scene?

[Kristin]

"Sociopaths are masters are presenting themselves as heroes with high morals and philosophy, yet underneath it they are the true criminal minds in society who steal, undermine, deceive, and often incite emotional chaos among entire communities. They are masters at turning one group of people against another group while proclaiming themselves to be the one true savior. Wherever they go, they create strife, argument and hatred, yet they utterly fail to see their own role in creating it. They are delusional at so many levels that their brains defy logical reasoning."

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html# I agree, really great article!

[TheChosen]

Sorry guys .. but the original argument is bonkers. Should I trust Bill Ryan saying he knows some guys on the forum who know a LOT of geeky, cool, computer stuff and said Corey Goode is not a pro IT guy ... or check out the professional Linked.In CV of Corey Goode.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/

I used to respect Bill Ryan for all the work he did with the original interviews around 2008 .. but spewing envy on someone else without checking few actual facts, like work history in the IT field is just wrong. Even if the rest of the arguments may hold water, this shallow background check is just not acceptable.
It is also perfectly possible to be relatively ignorant in one IT field (let's say C++ programming) and be an expert in Cisco .. you would know that .. if you stopped thinking about IT as 'lots of geeky, cool computer stuff'

I don't even know what to think about Corey Goode.. but if I have to choose whether to rely on the 3rd party opinion of Bill & Kerry vs David Wilcock .. I will pick Wilcock any given day due to the simple fact he is able to perform an actual data analysis based on fact... something like this: http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investigation-secret-space-programs-exposed/

[Foxie Loxie]

My personal opinion is that there is no "envy" involved here....we each have to judge for ourselves. :confused:

[norman]

Sorry guys .. but the original argument is bonkers. Should I trust Bill Ryan saying he knows some guys on the forum who know a LOT of geeky, cool, computer stuff and said Corey Goode is not a pro IT guy ... or check out the professional Linked.In CV of Corey Goode.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/

I used to respect Bill Ryan for all the work he did with the original interviews around 2008 .. but spewing envy on someone else without checking few actual facts, like work history in the IT field is just wrong. Even if the rest of the arguments may hold water, this shallow background check is just not acceptable.
It is also perfectly possible to be relatively ignorant in one IT field (let's say C++ programming) and be an expert in Cisco .. you would know that .. if you stopped thinking about IT as 'lots of geeky, cool computer stuff'

I don't even know what to think about Corey Goode.. but if I have to choose whether to rely on the 3rd party opinion of Bill & Kerry vs David Wilcock .. I will pick Wilcock any given day due to the simple fact he is able to perform an actual data analysis based on fact... something like this: http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investigation-secret-space-programs-exposed/

If you'd picked a Wilcock contribution...........

Salla shuffles into place and waves his UN pass and takes aim:



Hoax Secret Space Program Investigation Exposed by Documents & IT Experts


Daniel Liszt, founder of the Dark Journalist website (http://www.darkjournalist.com), has published eight videos to date that have been highly critical of Corey Goode’s claims of being a secret space program whistleblower, and having been chosen as a delegate for a group of extraterrestrials he calls the Sphere Being Alliance. Liszt’s “impartial” investigation questions the credibility of Goode as a witness, and promotes the view that Goode is a pathological liar that has contrived his testimony.

Documents and expert witness statements included in this article is conclusive evidence proving Goode’s professional background in the Information Technology (IT) industry, and his credibility as an IT consultant prior to his emergence as a whistleblower in 2014. Liszt’s exclusion of these documents and failure to obtain any professional IT recommendations in his “impartial” investigation cast considerable doubt on his claim of being an investigative journalist seeking the truth about Goode’s testimony.

In the first four videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qApt0XhbS0E)of his series, Liszt presents and endorses the views of Project Avalon Founder, Bill Ryan, that Goode fabricated his background as an Information Technology (IT) consultant who earned a six figure salary during his career. According to Ryan and Liszt, Goode’s claims that he was deprived of a well-paying IT career after being involuntarily outed as a secret space program whistleblower in 2014/2015 is contrived.

In particular, Ryan asserts that Goode was not an IT expert, and cites several sources in his three part interview with Liszt supporting his conclusion. In his initial article that gained Liszt’s interest and support, Ryan wrote (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567):

Ilie Pandia (who, like Paul, knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an ‘IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true. This was the first time we’d realized there was a definite, proven, problem, and that Corey had been lying about his expertise. (Claims about expertise can of course only be refuted by someone who really is an expert.)

Ryan’s italicized last sentence is very revealing. He refers to two individuals, presumably Project Avalon forum members who know “a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net,” who pass judgement on Goode’s alleged IT expertise. There is a major assumption here by Ryan that his two sources are bona fide IT experts – which is not shown to be the case – and since they find problems with Goode’s statements, Ryan reaches the conclusion that Goode had been lying about his IT expertise.

This immediately raises the question of fact checking whether there are documents and IT experts who can corroborate Goode’s claims of working in the industry. As we will find out, Ryan ignores evidence suggesting this, as does Liszt who does not bother to investigate such evidence in his “impartial investigation” into Goode.

Finally, Ryan furthermore reached the conclusion that Goode, who was unemployed and on medication at the time of two interviews with Ryan’s ex-wife, Christine Anderson, in 2014, was desperate for funds and wholly contrived his whistleblower testimony to raise money from a gullible public.

Liszt accepted all of Ryan’s conclusions without any qualification, and gave them his imprimatur as a major revelation after completing his interview series with Ryan using sensational headlines such as “Bill Ryan Exposes Corey Goode: The Facts! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYl12VXdUw)” and “Secret Space Psyops: Celebrity Whistleblowers! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0yEEtDmjA&t=13s)” Liszt has since gone on to publish four more videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzCHN2m6UoE&t=389s)attacking some of Goode’s key supporters and volunteers. In his eight part video series to date, Liszt presents himself as a bona fide journalist conducting an impartial investigation into Goode’s claims in order to learn the truth.

Liszt asserts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYl12VXdUw)that his series exposes a major deception that is being conducted on the UFO community by Goode and supporters who wish to undermine legitimate research into the existence of secret space programs:

The secret space program narrative is being contaminated by what looks like a psychological operation meant to discredit this worthy research.

Liszt’s video series has certainly gained much attention since his supporters and many viewers believe he is conducting an impartial investigation into Goode’s SSP claims. However, there are major problems with Liszt’s investigation in terms of available public documentation that refute key claims made by Ryan that Goode contrived his background as an IT consultant earning a six figure salary.

In reviewing documents and recommendations available on Goode’s LinkedIn page (https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/), one reaches a very different conclusion to that reached by Ryan, who consulted two alleged IT savvy individuals. Liszt then uncritically accepted this information as fact.

The available documents show that Goode did indeed work in the IT industry as a consultant, that he was highly regarded in the industry as an expert who was given several awards. Importantly, his resume (https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/) shows professional appointments and skills that would qualify him for the six figure salaries that Goode claims to have earned from his IT consulting career.

What is extraordinary in reviewing Liszt’s eight videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/darkjournalist/videos) is that he did not once refer to any of these documents, nor did he approach any of the companies that Goode claims to have worked for, which are clearly listed in his resume that is available online. Nor did Liszt attempt to contact independent third parties, IT experts, who publicly recommended Goode for work in the IT industry.

This is despite the fact that Ryan himself refers in his initial critique about the importance of consulting IT experts in assessing Goode’s claims. Even though Ryan referred to two sources (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567)to refute Goode’s claims, Liszt did not deem it worthy of exploring whether they were indeed IT experts, as Ryan assumes, and whether or not there were genuine experts supporting Goode’s competence as an IT consultant.

Furthermore and most critically, Liszt did not contact Goode for clarification on his IT background in order to properly assess this vital aspect of Goode’s work history, and his credibility, given Ryan’s claim that Goode was “lying about his expertise”.

This lack of basic investigatory rigor into Goode’s work history and qualifications casts serious questions on Liszt’s impartiality and professional integrity in investigating Goode’s claims. Liszt’s acceptance of Ryan’s conclusion that Goode is a “pathological liar” on multiple issues, which includes his work history, appears to be an a prior assumption Liszt has adopted that underlies his entire investigatory series.

At this stage it is important to review documents and recommendations by third parties that are all publicly available (https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/) for independent review when it comes to Goode’s career as an IT consultant.

His resume (https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/)shows a series of positions he has held as an IT consultant for various companies up to late 2013. For example, from July to Oct 2013, he worked as a Systems Engineer at Darling International Inc., in Irving Texas where he provided support in Microsoft (vmWare, Citrix and VEEAM) software systems.
Immediately prior, from April to June 2013, Goode worked at Hilton Worldwide as a consultant in Citrix and other computer systems. He gained the position through Robert Half Technology which is a recruiter in the IT sector with approximately 5000 to 10,000 employees.

Goode’s resume (https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/)goes on to detail his IT work history all to way back to 1995, when from August to January 1998, he worked on the Help Desk of Stream International in the Dallas/Fort Worth Area giving Microsoft Support.

Goode has supplied documents showing the acknowledgements he received in various jobs. These include AmerisourceBergen Speciality Group where he worked from March 2006 to July 2008 in Frisco, Texas. His main responsibility was “Application Support Engineer,” where he says he (https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/) “Maintained the Web Server environment & troubleshoot Application issues via log files, configuration files, SQL queries & IIS & Server Configuration\Event monitoring tools.”

Goode supplied the following document which is a June 7, 2007 letter of recognition for his first year of service from Dale Danilewitz, the Chief Information Officer at AmerisourceBergen. Regarding Goode’s IT work, Danilewitz says in his typed letter: “Your work has contributed significantly to the success of AmericsourceBergen Speciality Group, and we are pleased to have you as a member of our team”

continued at link:
http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investigation-secret-space-programs-exposed/

[Shadowself]

I also want to mention this. Long before Daniel started to bring up Corey Goode and the Blue Avain theme, it was and has been discussed by many great researchers as a complete sham in various forms.

Starting his series with Bill Ryan was natural as this is where Corey Goode and his Blue Avain theme for profit began.

I also have a feeling we will be seeing many more come out and speak up besides Bill Ryan and several already have.

So Michael Salla has painted himself in a corner of the UFO and SSP disclosure where this whole subject is concerned. As he said...He's "committed" himself. He had no choice but to back this game

[UfonautRadio]

I think DJ may have "jumped the shark" with respect to the claims of satanic influence or rituals. I honestly don't care what he is involved with in his spare time. I also think it's incorrect.

I don't support one word of CG, but let's please keep the arguments sane...

Also, BR is being targeted for "outing" CG. It's more of this that we need to purge the slime in New Age, if they want to try and take over Ufology.

[Bill Ryan]

I don't even know what to think about Corey Goode.

Well, then, you've maybe not been paying much attention. :)

[araucaria]

First point: you can show me documents explaining how you are fluent in French; I only need to get you to open your mouth to prove those documents false. Anything you say, write or do, is loaded with collateral information of this kind. Ilie and Paul are forum administrators who keep this site running and safe against more than normal threats, and as such are proven IT experts. It would be simple for them to recognize who they are dealing with.

Second point: Michael Salla needs to quote the paragraph immediately preceding the IT discussion. In it Bill says the following:


He sent some messages in the middle of the night, that he denied any knowledge of. Our very strong (unproven) suspicion was that he had indeed sent them, but had done so in an altered or split-minded state, and in the morning had no memory of what he’d done, though everything was there on his own computer and that of another person.

My point would be that, when dealing with someone prone to such split-minded states, it would be very possible for an IT specialist to be restricted to one such state, a relative dummy to another and a total dummy to a third. Setting the question of culpable sociopaths vs mind-controlled beings to one side, with such slippery customers, it is impossible to make a statement that is going to be valid across the board. There may very well be a side to Corey Goode that was totally cut off from Bill Ryan and the Avalon staff.

This merely leads to one conclusion, namely that personal integrity is impossible for anyone prone to split-minded states, even though it is no fault of their own. Integrity simply means that there is only one and the same person at home, whatever the time of day or circumstance. The fact that this is not the case – with respect not only to the points disputed by Michael Salla, but a whole lot of other stuff as well – disqualifies Corey Goode from playing any influential role in anything at all, with the exception of matters addressing his condition.

[bbow73]

Just a strange question perhaps....but did you notice that Daniel Liszt doesn´t blink in his videos? It is very difficult not to do that during a long time, especially when you speak. It was pointed out to me yesterday and I went to see the videos myself and yes... ! Has anyone else noticed that? And why do you think that might be?

I am posting his recent video here...byt the way, very interesting! It is an interview with someone who has participated in Corey Goode´s events.


https://player.vimeo.com/video/225260575

He could be one of the Men in Black that decided to exchange a black hat for a white one. idk.
Anyway, I'm a sensitive person and this video was heartbreaking. I'm really enjoying William Tompkin's book, I hope he's an innocent in this whole marketing scheme. Profit is such a small minded pursuit, especially when integrity is part of the compromise.

[bbow73]

okay, I change my mind. Daniel Liszt is an AI. He's a good guy, but its true, he never blinks and his head nods and chin dips occur at regular intervals... or maybe all his head nodding while keeping his eyes fixed keeps alternating parts of his eyes moist. A good AI could probably has a better algorithm for blinks and nods. Or maybe he only blinks when the viewer blinks!!!!





From Bill: watch his recent interview with Sarah Westall, here:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=GjrLNVL7OLY

Daniel blinks plenty. :)

[Clear Light]

Ah, basically, if you can stomach "New Age" concepts such as "Mass Ascension", "The Event", "Higher Densities", "Channelling", "Unity Consciousness" etc, then please, by all means, go ahead, I mean what have you got to lose by buying into what "Corey and the Gang" are advertising eh ?

Paraphrasing : Yes, the "Event" is happening within the next three years, yes only 0.0042 % will make it (99.9958 % won't), yes you have to process as much Karma as possible (no, I don't know how), yes it's likely the Sun is going to go into some crazy-super-duper-energy-emitting-light-show (but not the type you need to wear sunblock for haha) !!!

:rapture:

[Michelle Marie]

"Sociopaths are masters are presenting themselves as heroes with high morals and philosophy, yet underneath it they are the true criminal minds in society who steal, undermine, deceive, and often incite emotional chaos among entire communities. They are masters at turning one group of people against another group while proclaiming themselves to be the one true savior. Wherever they go, they create strife, argument and hatred, yet they utterly fail to see their own role in creating it. They are delusional at so many levels that their brains defy logical reasoning."

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html# I agree, really great article!

Thanks for sharing this article. I especially liked the 7 Rules for Personal Empowerment at the end. That is our best response for all that is going on right now.

Peace to all!
MM:bearhug:

[Michelle Marie]

I don't even know what to think about Corey Goode.

Well, then, you've maybe not been paying much attention. :)

Maybe that's a good thing. In the conservation of Life Energy, discriminating who or what to give attention to is valuable. It is an asset to empowerment. It IS good to know enough about someone to learn their credibility to make this determination.

Evolved intuition seems to be a great navigator. The 7 steps to empowerment mentioned in the previously mentioned natural news article flows along the same lines.

There is not one way for all as we each have our own individual strengths. I appreciate those of you who cut to the chase and reveal the credibility/authenticity of people and information. It is not my mission or forte. So, with deep sincere gratitude, I thank you!!!

Peace to all,
MM

[TrumanCash]

:facepalm:

If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.

Would you please enlighten us and expand upon this topic? Thank you.

Dianne Robbins. That would be this book:


https://diannerobbins.com/telos.html


Thanks for the link, Bill. I find it interesting that this is another new age religion based upon channeled messages bearing the same symbolism and modus operandi of the Annunaki, specifically the good cop/savior programming (e.g., Sun God worship, repetitive use of the word "Light", Immortality, "Light as it dawns each day", "God's Light", "Spiritual Hierarchy", "Ascended Master", "Ashtar Command", "High Priest", etc).

Daozen, I have not closely followed the "Blue Avian" messages, so how does this relate to "the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book"?

[Atlas]

continued at link:
http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investigation-secret-space-programs-exposed/


Great article. Much more info coming on The Dark Journalist, AKA Daniel Liszt AKA Daniel Robillard and Bill Rayan... their coordination in these attacks, connections to each other, the Illuminati and their infiltration into ufology. These articles and videos will be very compelling! Stay tuned... SBA
Unity Official Trailer

http://vimeo.com/131305537

[charlesfrith]

Hello. The link to the Mr X media files no longer works.
http://projectcamelot.org/mr_x.html

Thank you.

Charles





From Bill:


http://projectavalon.net/mr_x_audio.mp3

My apologies. I don't have access to the Camelot server, but I do have archived all the Camelot files from the very beginning.

[Atlas]

Update:



Spy vs Whistleblower: We hope to return to normal and positive posting soon. Coordinated attacks like this have never been seen before in this field. We are working with others to expose one of the largest Cabal Agent Infiltrations and operations in Ufology to be exposed since the time of the "Mirage Men" incident. We will identify one potential operative (Of a few we are aware of) and show their ties to a small Forum group and its leader (Another potential operative) who is up to their eyeballs in this operation.

We will also show clear and direct Cabal influence and ties.

The information will be explosive and controversial but will be a disclosure this community deserves and needs. We are delivering it in an as ethical of a journalistic form as possible. So far the contact attempts of a few researchers to these parties have gone unanswered. We wanted to give them the opportunity that was not given to people on our team who were targeted. We will provide the evidence we have collected to allow each of you to pull at the threads and investigate on your own. Then You Decide! Why would such an operation be executed on Goode and those in his inner circle if there was no truth to the testimony?

We hope, after some sunlight, that we can then begin to get some unity going and begin to focus our intent on Full Disclosure! If you were sucked into this PsyOp don't be discouraged. Investigate the data we present and use your own discernment. The PTB do not want unity and they do not want Tompkins, Wood, Salla and I to publish this book "A Case for a Secret Space Program" (Full announcement at the MUFON Symposium in Las Vegas/July). When I said "People accuse you of what they would do in the same situation", I had no idea how accurate this statement was. Stay tuned, much more to come!

CG

facebook.com/BlueAvians/posts/1762217810742674 (https://www.facebook.com/BlueAvians/posts/1762217810742674)
http://www.outsmartmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/UnityFeaturedImage.jpg

[bbow73]

From Bill: watch his recent interview with Sarah Westall, here:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=GjrLNVL7OLY

Daniel blinks plenty. :)
[/QUOTE]

Bill Ryan is my hero!

[Kristin]

First point: you can show me documents explaining how you are fluent in French; I only need to get you to open your mouth to prove those documents false. Anything you say, write or do, is loaded with collateral information of this kind. Ilie and Paul are forum administrators who keep this site running and safe against more than normal threats, and as such are proven IT experts. It would be simple for them to recognize who they are dealing with.

Second point: Michael Salla needs to quote the paragraph immediately preceding the IT discussion. In it Bill says the following:


He sent some messages in the middle of the night, that he denied any knowledge of. Our very strong (unproven) suspicion was that he had indeed sent them, but had done so in an altered or split-minded state, and in the morning had no memory of what he’d done, though everything was there on his own computer and that of another person.

My point would be that, when dealing with someone prone to such split-minded states, it would be very possible for an IT specialist to be restricted to one such state, a relative dummy to another and a total dummy to a third. Setting the question of culpable sociopaths vs mind-controlled beings to one side, with such slippery customers, it is impossible to make a statement that is going to be valid across the board. There may very well be a side to Corey Goode that was totally cut off from Bill Ryan and the Avalon staff.

This merely leads to one conclusion, namely that personal integrity is impossible for anyone prone to split-minded states, even though it is no fault of their own. Integrity simply means that there is only one and the same person at home, whatever the time of day or circumstance. The fact that this is not the case – with respect not only to the points disputed by Michael Salla, but a whole lot of other stuff as well – disqualifies Corey Goode from playing any influential role in anything at all, with the exception of matters addressing his condition.

Excellent points. In the recent video with Stacey Goode she admits freely that Corey is being abducted by military as well as herself. Corey has also stated that he was in Project Bluebird (not a walk in the park). http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg Multiple personality disorder, on going military abductions, and mind erasures. This is not something to brush under the rug by any means.

In his interview with Greorge Norey; Corey openly states an understanding of this:


George: Corey, you caught the eye of a friend of ours, David Wilcock, who truly believe you are probably the biggest whistleblower he’s ever come across, so much so, you’ve got a program, "Cosmic Disclosure". Aren’t you concerned that you’re going to say too much?

Corey : That is actually my job right now, is to say too much.

[…]

George: What if – just saying what if, in all respect – you’ve been set up by the government to be some kind of informational specialist who is trying to divert us and the attention?
Maybe something else is going on. I’m being the devil’s advocate here. But they need someone like you to get us to concentrate on something like this, where the big picture is going on over here, and we don’t even see it. Could you be that person? In all respect.

Corey : In all respect. I’ve thought about that. And this is something I’ve thought about heavily because one of the projects that I was under was called Project Bluebird, when I was a kid.

Well, all of a sudden now, these Blue Avians come in. And other people that are the Secret Space Program said, OK, what is going on?

We were in Project Bluebird, and now there’s these Blue Avians. Is this another mind – you know? What is going on?

George: You might be being used and don’t even know it.

Corey : Yeah. They said: Is this another mind screw? And when it comes down to it, the Cabal is all about to gaining ‘loosh’ from humanity, which is fear energy, to feed their masters. Controlling humanity through ignorance and fear.

With all of this in mind, Corey Goode should really be using some restraint when it comes down to his claims of knowing what is the truth and what is not. It's OK not to know the validity of memory and it's OK not to be sure. However, unfortunately, this is not the case we are dealing with, Corey Goode's statements are definitive. That is a concern.

When you research his stories, they all have threads into other well known stories in the alternative community. This is not the first time anyone has heard these narratives, only the first time perhaps that they have been laid out as one continuous story which unfolds in real time for all who care to listen. For example:


Corey Quote: ” I glanced over at my copy of the Law of One (Book One) that was on the head of the bed.

I had been trying to read the book for a number of but was unable to retain anything that I had read. When I would try to read it, my mind would wander. The words seemed to hover above the page, causing me to feel a little nauseated and dizzy when I tried to push through reading it. I reached over and picked up the book, and began to read and retain the information for the first time. Once I had finished reading the book, I was surprised to have Tear-Eir communicate with me in the same wording the next time we met. I was now able to ask more direct questions and receive answers that were easier to translate into human language.”

This is the type of disclosure that Corey Goode offers and many people are interested in the above as a form of information. It's entertaining. However, this type of "disclosure" is not the cup of tea for the average dye in the wool researcher. That is OK too.

The objective here is not to attack Corey Goode, his family, or his new found way of creating income. The objective is to take evidence that is presented just as that: EVIDENCE of DISCLOSURE and read into it for what it is, to use our discernment to ascertain what it may /may not be, and continue onto the next person who will come down the pike with another story. This is what happens here at Avalon, we look into things and try to uncover the jewels among rocks.

As to Corey Goodes IT expertise, I'm sure he has fine experience in some capacities and not so much in others; such is the nature of IT jobs in that field. People are specialized. IT is a BIG term and certainly people in the field have various experiences that reflect upon their knowledge. Corey Goode would be no different.

With respect to his obvious opinion that Avalon is out to get him, that we stalk him, that we harass his family etc etc etc... well, I do have to say evidence would be a good idea to support the claims, however, when you are out in the public eye and claim to know as much you need to have a tough skin. People have the right to question, to learn, and to base their opinions on their own research. We have a forum which does exactly that, and I'm proud to be a part of that process on any day. :bigsmile:

[ThePythonicCow]

Sorry guys .. but the original argument is bonkers. Should I trust Bill Ryan saying he knows some guys on the forum who know a LOT of geeky, cool, computer stuff and said Corey Goode is not a pro IT guy ... or check out the professional Linked.In CV of Corey Goode.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/

I used to respect Bill Ryan for all the work he did with the original interviews around 2008 .. but spewing envy on someone else without checking few actual facts, like work history in the IT field is just wrong. Even if the rest of the arguments may hold water, this shallow background check is just not acceptable.
Characterizing Bill's quoting Ilie (quoting correctly, as I know), as Bill "spewing envy" is wrong, meaning factually incorrect, misleading, and a tad insulting :).

Bill was correctly quoting Ilie, and Ilie and I have for a long time been quite familiar, in various ways, with Corey's abilities and his background in IT. Corey's expertise was quite limited and narrowly focused compared to Ilie's or mine. Yes, Corey held various administrative and security tasks in the area, but mostly involving physical tasks (such as "physical security" or such as moving racks, which is how he hurt his shoulder) or procedural (such as configuring Citrix and similar servers).

I did my own "background check" of Corey, back when we first started having serious doubts about him, and determined then, both from speaking to him in person and from researching on the web, that he had more or less the above documented job history. Some more detail has come out since then, but my views of Corey's "IT expertise" have not changed significantly since then. When it comes to computer and software related stuff, from what I've seen, Corey does not have "a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill" (the dictionary definition of "expert") in any broad scale sense. Rather he has physical and procedural training, certificates, and skills in specific, limited, tasks and in administering specific systems. Corey is no expert in "information technology" in general.

I did not take Ilie's remark about Corey not being an IT expert mean that Ilie had concluded that Corey did not know anything about anything computer related, but rather I took Ilie's remark to mean that Ilie had concluded that Corey did not know all that much about the sorts of things that Ilie would have expected Corey to know, such as configuring and securing his personal Windows computers or such as securely working with Web clients or servers (all things in which Ilie is an expert.)

Corey (perhaps working with Stacy) was able to create resumes with a good mix of IT buzz words to make his limited background sound impressive. This is a skill that is valuable to someone working in a variety of contractor jobs. But reading between the lines on such resumes (a skill I developed as a hiring manager) I find that Corey's resume was likely more impressive to someone in Human Resources tasked with filling job openings with specific skills than it would be to someone who was actually an expert in those or related computer skills. I seldom hired people with such resumes, and usually ended up regretting it when I did.

[Spiral]

Let's try another tack, anyone tried RVing the Blue avians ? Or even CG ?

Tried astral contact ?

No need to get carried away with etheric or quantum stuff just yet...


Nothing eh ?

That's because there is nothing there, never has been, never will be, why it took years to get to this is anyone's guess.....

[TheChosen]

Paul: As I already mentioned I am not going to go into the 'space stuff' about CG as that is neither my expertise nor I believe we can prove or disprove anything CG says at this point (I have read most of his stuff.. if nothing they are a far better Sci-Fi than most movies today).

When it comes down to his IT expertise... what you have written above is something entirely different than the original post by Bill Ryan indicating CG could not make a decent income working in IT. The point was not whether CG was an IT expert in general IT knowledge (who cares really?).. but whether his claim that he left a high paying IT job was true. Judging by his Linked IN resume he could have very easily gotten a nice , comfy and secure IT job.. Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.

You are choosing to misrepresent his CV as IT 'physically' oriented... which is extremely ironic and misleading as he has a lot of experience n VMWare (hint: VM stands for Virtual Machine). As I've worked in IT management for the last 10 years this is one field I believe I am the expert to judge a person's potential income & skills. I've seen far more narrow banded IT experts with a 6 figure salary. In fact for certain positions, the more narrow your IT skills, the higher the salary.

Long story short: It is my professional opinion (based on 10 years of IT management in corporations) that he could've easily made tons of money in the IT sector. Is his CV a bit 'buzzworded'? Guess what.. my CV is buzzworded too... that's how you negotiate the highest salary possible.

Is he making the same tons of money in the alternative fields? Very doubtful... I knew someone similar to CG personally. He was very active around this forum circa 2009. Got attacked on the same 'you are just in for the money' grounds as CG. Guess what.. he was barely surviving by working part time jobs.

[Spiral]

Paul: As I already mentioned I am not going to go into the 'space stuff' about CG as that is neither my expertise nor I believe we can prove or disprove anything CG says at this point (I have read most of his stuff.. if nothing they are a far better Sci-Fi than most movies today).

When it comes down to his IT expertise... what you have written above is something entirely different than the original post by Bill Ryan indicating CG could not make a decent income working in IT. The point was not whether CG was an IT expert in general IT knowledge (who cares really?).. but whether his claim that he left a high paying IT job was true. Judging by his Linked IN resume he could have very easily gotten a nice , comfy and secure IT job.. Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.

You are choosing to misrepresent his CV as IT 'physically' oriented... which is extremely ironic and misleading as he has a lot of experience n VMWare (hint: VM stands for Virtual Machine). As I've worked in IT management for the last 10 years this is one field I believe I am the expert to judge a person's potential income & skills. I've seen far more narrow banded IT experts with a 6 figure salary. In fact for certain positions, the more narrow your IT skills, the higher the salary.

Long story short: It is my professional opinion (based on 10 years of IT management in corporations) that he could've easily made tons of money in the IT sector. Is his CV a bit 'buzzworded'? Guess what.. my CV is buzzworded too... that's how you negotiate the highest salary possible.

Is he making the same tons of money in the alternative fields? Very doubtful... I knew someone similar to CG personally. He was very active around this forum circa 2009. Got attacked on the same 'you are just in for the money' grounds as CG. Guess what.. he was barely surviving by working part time jobs.

You think his income is from the alt circuit ????

He is being paid to place disinfo & a cult into the alt arena, this is high stakes stuff

look at the cash thrown into Iraq .... money is no object for certain objectives !

[Kristin]

Paul: As I already mentioned I am not going to go into the 'space stuff' about CG as that is neither my expertise nor I believe we can prove or disprove anything CG says at this point (I have read most of his stuff.. if nothing they are a far better Sci-Fi than most movies today).

When it comes down to his IT expertise... what you have written above is something entirely different than the original post by Bill Ryan indicating CG could not make a decent income working in IT. The point was not whether CG was an IT expert in general IT knowledge (who cares really?).. but whether his claim that he left a high paying IT job was true. Judging by his Linked IN resume he could have very easily gotten a nice , comfy and secure IT job.. Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.

You are choosing to misrepresent his CV as IT 'physically' oriented... which is extremely ironic and misleading as he has a lot of experience n VMWare (hint: VM stands for Virtual Machine). As I've worked in IT management for the last 10 years this is one field I believe I am the expert to judge a person's potential income & skills. I've seen far more narrow banded IT experts with a 6 figure salary. In fact for certain positions, the more narrow your IT skills, the higher the salary.

Long story short: It is my professional opinion (based on 10 years of IT management in corporations) that he could've easily made tons of money in the IT sector. Is his CV a bit 'buzzworded'? Guess what.. my CV is buzzworded too... that's how you negotiate the highest salary possible.

Is he making the same tons of money in the alternative fields? Very doubtful... I knew someone similar to CG personally. He was very active around this forum circa 2009. Got attacked on the same 'you are just in for the money' grounds as CG. Guess what.. he was barely surviving by working part time jobs.

I can also believe that Corey has made very good money in the IT field. I also know that Corey was unemployed at the time of his original Avalon interview and on disability. The idea here is not to look at facts misrepresented and I agree with you on that. So let's look at the context which is also important.

Corey Goode stated that he lost his income because of the interview and that he did not want the interview to come out when it did, that he thought it was just a research project. That's bending facts on his part to fit a narrative of being victimized. Often you will see that Corey portrays the victim very well and is ingenious at bending a story in order to create an emotional response from his audience. It works.

I personally think it's awful to be on disability, injured, and in pain. If Goode had just wanted sympathy, he could have gone there. The idea here was to portray Bill Ryan as anything but who he really is. Corey Goode will continue to paint Bill Ryan as a villain. In Stacey Goode's recent interview the story changes: Stacey states that they thought the interview was great but they were upset that it had been edited. The reasoning she states was that Bill did not like Jesus Christ being used as a guard against dark forces. Not true. Bill edited the interview because the sound quality was poor and also because Corey (being on medication) was stammering and it was difficult to understand. Do you see the web that is woven?

I think you ask some very good questions here, ones that Bill can answer more succinctly then I. So I have just communicated to the issues that I know about first hand. Thank you for asking such questions, it's important that we are all looking at the same information.

[Bill Ryan]

Stacy states that they thought the interview was great but they were upset that it had been edited.

That's just so disingenuous. Corey and Stacy were delighted when it came out. I have all his messages, thanking me.

~~~

(Skype, 26 Oct, 2014)



10:59 COREY
I had no idea it was going to be so professional looking, expected just an audio mp3 link etc... TY.

11:11 COREY
Wife just watched/listened to it too, she is a bit of a perfectionist as I glean you are too. She loves it. Very impressive.

[thunder24]

Sometimes I wonder about the domino effect, and wish I never mentioned any blue avians to begin with. The world would have been spared of the two-legged blue cocks.

can we get that link onyx... i don't think you want spot light but it might be a puzzle piece later...or now

[ThePythonicCow]

When it comes down to his IT expertise... what you have written above is something entirely different than the original post by Bill Ryan indicating CG could not make a decent income working in IT. The point was not whether CG was an IT expert in general IT knowledge (who cares really?).. but whether his claim that he left a high paying IT job was true. Judging by his Linked IN resume he could have very easily gotten a nice , comfy and secure IT job.. Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.

You are choosing to misrepresent his CV as IT 'physically' oriented... which is extremely ironic and misleading as he has a lot of experience n VMWare (hint: VM stands for Virtual Machine). As I've worked in IT management for the last 10 years this is one field I believe I am the expert to judge a person's potential income & skills. I've seen far more narrow banded IT experts with a 6 figure salary. In fact for certain positions, the more narrow your IT skills, the higher the salary.

Long story short: It is my professional opinion (based on 10 years of IT management in corporations) that he could've easily made tons of money in the IT sector. Is his CV a bit 'buzzworded'? Guess what.. my CV is buzzworded too... that's how you negotiate the highest salary possible.

Is he making the same tons of money in the alternative fields? Very doubtful... I knew someone similar to CG personally. He was very active around this forum circa 2009. Got attacked on the same 'you are just in for the money' grounds as CG. Guess what.. he was barely surviving by working part time jobs.

I find your reply inaccurate on a couple of points.

I did not ONLY represent his work as physical. I represented it as physical (which word Corey uses at times when describing his work) or procedural (such as configuring Citrix and similar servers).

In my view, the primary evidence that Corey didn't leave a six figure job (over $100,000 annual salary) is that he was on disability for a year due to hurting his shoulder when an equipment rack fell. This indeed is further evidence that his talents were more physical ... a pure software job doesn't require both shoulders to be working. In the corporate environments that I worked in, the guys moving the equipment racks were not the guys that we counted on for any serious software development or engineering.

I agree with you that it's possible that Corey had some contracting gigs that earned him income at a "six figure" rate ... I don't know whether he did or not. But I agree with Bill that he wasn't earning that, or any other significant amount of employment income, in the year prior to his starting to work with David Wilcock, because (I'm pretty sure) he wasn't working then for any significant amount of time, if at all.

Finally, I am not attacking Corey by claiming he's "just in it for the money". If it wasn't for that nice house that someone let him live in for a year for free, I suspect that Corey would still be struggling to make ends meet.

[ThePythonicCow]

Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.
By the way, Corey did not simply claim a 6 figure income ... he claimed (here (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/6302-The-Plan-(blogs-by-theruiner777)/page8?p=841919342&highlight=High%206%20Figure$%20Per%20Year)) a "High 6 Figure$ Per Year". That would be over a half million dollars per year.

I suspect you and I would agree that that's quite unlikely.

[Valley]

After listening/watching the William Thompkins video interviews i found it very interesting that he also talked about the '20 year and back' program that the 'Space Navy' has been using...where someone serves 20 years then gets age regressed and sent back in time to where they were taken from. That's exactly what Goode says happened to him. I found it quite fascinating to hear that most unbelievable aspect of Goode's testimony to be confirmed from a different person. Makes me wonder if there has been anyone else who has come forward speaking about that particular subject before Goode?..or after?

[ThePythonicCow]

I found it quite fascinating to hear that most unbelievable aspect of Goode's testimony to be confirmed from a different person.
Of course ... one must distinguish between "confirming" and "repeating tall tales" :)

[Valley]

Right Paul...that was the word that came to mind while making my point, but has anyone else spoke about this particular thing?...and i did also say that it was unbelievable :smile:

[onawah]

Personally, for me that just makes Tompkin's story even more fishy.

After listening/watching the William Thompkins video interviews i found it very interesting that he also talked about the '20 year and back' program that the 'Space Navy' has been using...where someone serves 20 years then gets age regressed and sent back in time to where they were taken from. That's exactly what Goode says happened to him. I found it quite fascinating to hear that most unbelievable aspect of Goode's testimony to be confirmed from a different person. Makes me wonder if there has been anyone else who has come forward speaking about that particular subject before Goode?..or after?

[Flash]

Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.
By the way, Corey did not simply claim a 6 figure income ... he claimed (here (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/6302-The-Plan-(blogs-by-theruiner777)/page8?p=841919342&highlight=High%206%20Figure$%20Per%20Year)) a "High 6 Figure$ Per Year". That would be over a half million dollars per year.

I suspect you and I would agree that that's quite unlikely.

how six figures makes half a million? Isn'it 100,000 over? 100, 000 per year?

[ThePythonicCow]

how six figures makes half a million? Isn'it 100,000 over? 100, 000 per year?

"Six figures" means over $100,000, yes.

"High six figures" means on the high end of the six figure range, 100,000 to 999,999. In other words, it means probably at least $600,000 or $700,000 (which I simplified to "over a half million.")

[Shadowself]

how six figures makes half a million? Isn'it 100,000 over? 100, 000 per year?

"Six figures" means over $100,000, yes.

"High six figures" means on the high end of the six figure range, 100,000 to 999,999. In other words, it means probably at least $600,000 or $700,000 (which I simplified to "over a half million.")

And I know he did not make that kind of money. At least not on any kind of regular basis. If you make even low 6 figures you buy real estate. You do not rent. It's throwing your money away to rent and real estate is the best kind of tax write off. With high 6 figures you usually have several properties for rental and such.

Corey was renting the house he was living in at that time.

Btw Paul...I have a question for you. Is part of an IT job/position such as Corey claims fixing Copy machines? To be exact an HR copy machine.

[9ideon]

Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.
By the way, Corey did not simply claim a 6 figure income ... he claimed (here (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/6302-The-Plan-(blogs-by-theruiner777)/page8?p=841919342&highlight=High%206%20Figure$%20Per%20Year)) a "High 6 Figure$ Per Year". That would be over a half million dollars per year.

I suspect you and I would agree that that's quite unlikely.

That should have told you everything about the Man you needed to know.

Call it a give away sign. People who claim to be "enlightened" or in touch with whatever from where ever, the good Guys sort of Speak, would not brag about their Money, income and similar issues, simply because money is not the future of this Planet.
Besides, the man "vibrates" deception from almost every crack on his body...

:cheers:

[ThePythonicCow]

Btw Paul...I have a question for you. Is part of an IT job/position such as Corey claims fixing Copy machines? To be exact an HR copy machine.
I doubt that Corey's IT jobs involved fixing copy machines. Copy machines are usually fixed by field engineers who work for the copy machine manufacturer or for one of their authorized distributors or service companies. I did that sort of work (for cash registers, not copy machines) for four years in the 1970's. One drives from location to location in response to service calls, with a trunk full of custom parts and supplies suitable for that product line.

[TheChosen]

Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.
By the way, Corey did not simply claim a 6 figure income ... he claimed (here (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/6302-The-Plan-(blogs-by-theruiner777)/page8?p=841919342&highlight=High%206%20Figure$%20Per%20Year)) a "High 6 Figure$ Per Year". That would be over a half million dollars per year.

I suspect you and I would agree that that's quite unlikely.

Quite unlikely, perhaps. Is he exaggerating? Possibly yes like most people do when they are trying to make a point. But it is also entirely plausible within the context of the statement in that post. Contracting as a company (I don't know whether he employed any sub-contractors during his short consulting contracts) can easily get a contract in the high 6 figures rate, even though the net income would be of course far lower.

The bigger question here is if CG is such an obvious fake, why is David Wilcock such a strong supporter even after spending many off time with him, where he could better judge his character.

[Mike Gorman]

Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.
By the way, Corey did not simply claim a 6 figure income ... he claimed (here (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/6302-The-Plan-(blogs-by-theruiner777)/page8?p=841919342&highlight=High%206%20Figure$%20Per%20Year)) a "High 6 Figure$ Per Year". That would be over a half million dollars per year.

I suspect you and I would agree that that's quite unlikely.

how six figures makes half a million? Isn'it 100,000 over? 100, 000 per year?

It is where I am from :)

[BMJ]

Sorry guys .. but the original argument is bonkers. Should I trust Bill Ryan saying he knows some guys on the forum who know a LOT of geeky, cool, computer stuff and said Corey Goode is not a pro IT guy ... or check out the professional Linked.In CV of Corey Goode.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/

Linkedin is a bit like facebook in that your network can be like a group of supposed friends on facebook, and these friends are not necessarily whom they may claim to be.

And as to the veracity of his IT claims well if he had a few key random questions asked of him by the likes of IT professionals such Paul, Ile or Target im sure he would be called out within say 15 minutes of a conversation for being a fraud.

Because I know similiarly with accounts that if I put key questions to a Corey like character I would be able to expose him within 15 minutes easily.

But unfortunately I think we will have to just continue to believe in Corey's integrity (COUGH) or have divine faith on this matter and all others that Corey speaks of.

[Bill Ryan]

Makes me wonder if there has been anyone else who has come forward speaking about that particular subject before Goode?..or after?

Yes, Michael Relfe, in 2000. See http://The MarsRecords.com. There are two downloadable books there in PDF, written by his counselor/therapist wife Stephanie, who helped Michael unearth what seemed to have happened to him. All their sessions are there in the books for anyone to examine.

The books are free, and Michael never sought any publicity. Far from this being any kind of confirmation, it's way more likely that this is the plagiarized source, which is what Stephanie Relfe herself firmly believes.

[Chester]

Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.
By the way, Corey did not simply claim a 6 figure income ... he claimed (here (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/6302-The-Plan-(blogs-by-theruiner777)/page8?p=841919342&highlight=High%206%20Figure$%20Per%20Year)) a "High 6 Figure$ Per Year". That would be over a half million dollars per year.

I suspect you and I would agree that that's quite unlikely.

Quite unlikely, perhaps. Is he exaggerating? Possibly yes like most people do when they are trying to make a point. But it is also entirely plausible within the context of the statement in that post. Contracting as a company (I don't know whether he employed any sub-contractors during his short consulting contracts) can easily get a contract in the high 6 figures rate, even though the net income would be of course far lower.

I don't think he was exaggerating if we look at "high six figures" in terms of the Macedonian Denar. If Corey made 11,000 USD a year that is about 600,000 MKD. But I think the folks here are discussing USD



The bigger question here is if CG is such an obvious fake, why is David Wilcock such a strong supporter even after spending many off time with him, where he could better judge his character.

Maybe because... Wilcock has sold out and became fake? We shall see if Wilcock joins "the light" once again in the future which would entail that he "comes clean" about his adventure with Goode.

[TargeT]

Maybe not a 6 figure stable income.. but def in the high 60s-70sK with the occasional consulting gig.
By the way, Corey did not simply claim a 6 figure income ... he claimed (here (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/6302-The-Plan-(blogs-by-theruiner777)/page8?p=841919342&highlight=High%206%20Figure$%20Per%20Year)) a "High 6 Figure$ Per Year". That would be over a half million dollars per year.

I suspect you and I would agree that that's quite unlikely.

Been in IT for almost 20 years, my credentials/experience/certifications CRUSH Coreys... I don't make anywhere near "high 6 figures"




Btw Paul...I have a question for you. Is part of an IT job/position such as Corey claims fixing Copy machines? To be exact an HR copy machine.

Yes, in the mid to low 5 figure range there are individuals that do that (we refer to them as "help desk" aka, the lowest of the IT support positions)




Btw Paul...I have a question for you. Is part of an IT job/position such as Corey claims fixing Copy machines? To be exact an HR copy machine.
I doubt that Corey's IT jobs involved fixing copy machines. Copy machines are usually fixed by field engineers who work for the copy machine manufacturer or for one of their authorized distributors or service companies. I did that sort of work (for cash registers, not copy machines) for four years in the 1970's. One drives from location to location in response to service calls, with a trunk full of custom parts and supplies suitable for that product line.

We have our helpdesk troubleshoot the big lexmark and xerox units before calling out a service rep... that's pretty standard.

[TrumanCash]

I haven't followed the "Blue Avian" thing as it sounded to me like ET manipulation from the beginning.

So can someone please summarize what the alleged "Blue Avians" have been saying? Or perhaps there is a web page some where on that?

[RunningDeer]

I haven't followed the "Blue Avian" thing as it sounded to me like ET manipulation from the beginning.

So can someone please summarize what the alleged "Blue Avians" have been saying? Or perhaps there is a web page some where on that?

Most of the time when I read his stuff, my mind doesn’t comprehend even when I’ve re-RE-read sentences and paragraphs. I can only tolerate a quick skim. Here's a copy and paste summary from one of several Corey sites - SphereBeingAlliance.com (https://spherebeingalliance.com):

WHO IS THE SPHERE-BEING ALLIANCE?

Recently the SSP Alliance was joined by a group of beings that no one had encountered before. They are a 6-9th Density Group of Beings that have been referred to as The Sphere Alliance. These new Sphere Beings have not only created an Energetic Blockade around Earth but have also done so around our entire solar system. They are a nonviolent group of beings who have brought assistance mainly in the form of a message.

WHAT IS THE MESSAGE?

Focus on increasing your service to others and be more loving to yourself and everyone in order to raise your vibrational and consciousness level. Learn to forgive yourself and others (thus releasing karma). This will change the vibration of the planet, raise the shared consciousness of humanity, and change human kind one person at a time -- even if that one person is yourself. They tell us to treat your body as a temple and change over to a higher vibrational diet to aid in the process.

WHAT IS THE WARNING?

The Blue Avians also gave a warning with this message. They had tried to deliver this message three other times in the past, but it was distorted by humanity. They made it very clear that this information was NOT to become a cult or religious movement nor was Corey to put himself before the message or elevate himself to a guru status. Anyone who does so should be avoided and held accountable, including Corey.

WHY IS THE SPHERE-BEING ALLIANCE HERE?

The Sphere-Being Alliance is fighting the current controlling elite known as the Cabal or Illuminati who exist on Earth at this very moment. There are events and battles occurring above our atmosphere involving the Secret Space Programs and Break Away Civilizations. The people of Earth have been in debt slavery, mind controlled, sickened, and lied to in order to control the masses. We have had technologies suppressed from us that would change our lives. The Alliance is here to help humanity evolve out of this lower frequency. It’s time to know our rights, who we truly are, and what we need to do about it. These technologies would immediately collapse the world economies and make the Babylonian Money Magic Slave System of no use anymore. It means the Loss of Control of the .01% (Elite) over the Masses and a complete Paradigm Change.

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for the summary, Running Deer. Hmmm....the message doesn't appear to include the Annunaki, Grays, Mantids, Reptilians, et al, who are the real source of the problems. I wonder why....

Sounds pretty much like the ET-generated channeled disinfo prevalent in the new age communities.

It seems to put the blame on "the cabal", "Illuminati" and "current controlling elite"--i.e., humans who are just obeying the edicts and standard programming of the manipulative ET conspirators that have been used for thousands of years on unsuspecting and totally programmed human beings.

Fortunately, many discerning individuals can now see through these over-used ET mind control mechanisms that are now creating a new religion to add to the many thousands of religions the Annunaki and Mantids have created over thousands of years to divide people. Unfortunately, many are still caught up in this ET web of deceipt.

The web of deceipt is simple: Tell humans what they want to hear with feel-good messages, pretend you're the enemy of their enemy (i.e., "Cabal"), offer guidance and help to ascend to a higher level, vibration, dimension, spirituality, heaven, etc, to avoid hell/bad things, create a mind-controlled prophet/messenger and so forth.

It is also interesting that in the 50s in Sunday School we were given comic books about Jesus. Will things ever change? LOL!

[ThePythonicCow]

We have our helpdesk troubleshoot the big lexmark and xerox units before calling out a service rep... that's pretty standard.
Yeah - that makes sense - that could have been what Corey was doing.

[Valley]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2088e90.jpg
My only questions at this point is how many other Earth inhabitants claim to have contact with "Blue Avians" or "Sphere Beings" and who are they?
The ancient Egyptians had a bird-headed 'god' named Ra, who is many times depicted in their hieroglyphics as having blue coloring. Here's the best depiction of a 'blue avian' type figure i could find online...(attached image)

[TrumanCash]

How ironic. As you can see from the picture, Ra is not the only thing that is blue in the picture; it's the main color for almost everything in the picture.

Also, I knew Ra personally without the predatory bird headdress. I did see other ETs wearing animal headdresses around the ship. They had human heads inside those full head masks. These guys are the Annunaki and Ra and Ptah were the "gods" (ETs) of war--not nice guys. You can read more about it in the first two chapters of the EYE OF RA, which includes a drawing of what Ra really looked like (and he was not blue).

The question I posed which you copied was taken out of context. I was referring to the many well-known ETs who have contacted or abducted many--perhaps millions of--humans yet the alleged "Blue Avians" only contacted one person?

Also, David Wilcock has been promoting the Ra Law of One material which is nothing more than Annunaki propaganda wrapped up in some truths which to most of us non-sociopaths are self-evident. Some of the biggest lies can be concealed in an abundance of truth and propaganda. Fortunately, past life research can expose the lies for what they are.

Unfortunately, some new agers are just too trusting when it comes to ETs and I lost count of how many times I've heard new agers parrot the ET channeled disinformation. Just because something feels good doesn't mean it's true. I cover my experiences with new agers and channeling in the "Journey to Discovery" chapter of the EYE OF RA (p. 61 of pdf).

[Valley]

I was just sharing the best blue avian image i was aware of & i think the image is of the Egyptian 'god' Horus. Wasn't trying to take anything out of context, just trying to be helpful. Sorry if it bothered you...not my intention at all.

[Daozen]

There are now more threads on Project Avalon about Corey Goode than Jesus Christ.

A search for Jesus Christ returns 10 results. Corey Goode: 21.

Words fail me.

[sunwings]

The attack has arrived. :shielddeflect:

Corey just tweeted this. It is a reverse speech analysis of Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan in their recent interviews attacking him.

https://tifvision.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/reverse-speech-analysis-by-tiffany-fontenot-of-kerry-cassidy-and-shane-subconscious-breaking-and-entering-and-am-i-a-sphere-being-incarnate/

Kerry said this in reverse "Hold the sock. The herbs has hidden the sham that mate the libel."

Bill said this in reverse "Dark Journalist- I lie Bill Ryan- in chess. Mock of hearts here."

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/c9/6c/16c96c95981aa6808efe61b4d5b518ed.jpg

[Kristin]

IF this is some of the fine research that is coming our way to discredit Avalon; by all means keep it coming! :ROFL:

[Shannon]

The attack has arrived. :shielddeflect:

Corey just tweeted this. It is a reverse speech analysis of Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan in their recent interviews attacking him.

https://tifvision.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/reverse-speech-analysis-by-tiffany-fontenot-of-kerry-cassidy-and-shane-subconscious-breaking-and-entering-and-am-i-a-sphere-being-incarnate/

Kerry said this in reverse "Hold the sock. The herbs has hidden the sham that mate the libel."

Bill said this in reverse "Dark Journalist- I lie Bill Ryan- in chess. Mock of hearts here."

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/c9/6c/16c96c95981aa6808efe61b4d5b518ed.jpg

Reverse speech isn't valid. And this is pretty hilarious. Lol

[Did You See Them]

Just to point out that after reading Corey's resume he does what I do - he's a network engineer - monitoring server systems, virtual machines and the like. Help desk = virus removal and email setup and all the dumb questions and mistakes users make. He checks backup's have run and troubleshoots network paths.

Like all geek talk it sounds impressive - but here's an example from his resume.

"Experience in securing Windows & Linux operating systems per industry standard best practice" i.e. Log on to customers server and click "Windows Update" oh - and is the antivirus up to date ? Job Done.

I've got a 19yr old fresh from school sitting next to me with more Microsoft accredited qualifications than Corey !!

Six figure salary - I wish !!

[Shadowself]

From Cliff High on Twitter:

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https://twitter.com/clif_high/status/874317812088545280

[TrumanCash]

I was just sharing the best blue avian image i was aware of & i think the image is of the Egyptian 'god' Horus. Wasn't trying to take anything out of context, just trying to be helpful. Sorry if it bothered you...not my intention at all.

Nope, didn't bother me at all--My bad in not being clear enough. I was just commenting on the irony of how "Ra" keeps popping up in these discussions. Of course, it is David Wilcock's promotion of the bogus "Ra, Law of One" propaganda that promotes Ra as being a good guy coupled with his association with CG. And of course I feel obliged to point out who Ra really was/is from my own personal experiences. Ra and his group of Annunaki are the ones most responsible with causing war and chaos on Earth and they do it in significant part by creating different religious belief systems to keep people divided. "Ra, Law of One" is one such religious belief system created by the Annunaki and their co-conspirators (via channeled messages) and now it is associated with the "Blue Avians", etc, via Wilcock and Goode.

Note that avian symbolism is a trademark of the Annunaki along with serpent symbolism and that is why we see poisonous winged snakes, predatory birds (e.g., hawks, eagles), etc, associated with this sociopathic ET group who also created the secret societies that infiltrate governments using assassination, torture, mind control, etc.

I can see their divide-and-conquer machinations at work here, assisted of course by the mind-controlled humans in the so-called "intelligence" agencies who need to wake up and find out who they are really working for.

What I personally witnessed was the Annunaki using threats of annihilation to create war. They tell the leader of a country (such as a pharaoh) that they must go out and attack another country or they will be annihilated by the Annunaki if they don't. It's a horrible no-win situation; damned if you do, damned if you don't. They also require blood sacrifices and satanic rituals.

There has been no change in their modus operandi that I can see. We are still immersed in endless wars, insidious secret societies created and run by ETs, satanic rituals and sacrifices. Nothing has changed and it appears this phenomenon is intensifying. That is why I say that there is no reason to believe that the Annunaki and their co-conspirators are not currently running the show as they have always been (which is rather easy for time-traveling sociopaths to do).

I've heard the same old worn-out channeled messages for over twenty-five years and nothing changes. Many new agers--and some are my friends--still swallow channeled Egyptian gods' propaganda without turning on their BS meters. I think this is what is occurring in this situation. It's not just that many new agers are gullible; it's that they are too trusting. Trust is a very good spiritual trait to have. And these ETs use our trust to entrap us along with their sugar-coated messages. Humans in turn adopt one of these belief systems to the exclusion of others and that is what is dividing Earth humans.

People need to wake up and see the man behind the curtain. We are being manipulated. I see people pointing fingers of blame at each other in this UFO circus when we should be identifying the source of problem, not the symptoms, and not fall for the ET conspirators' divide-and-conquer strategies.

[Kristin]

One of the points that bothers me as well, Truman, is that Corey never seems to question his ET handlers or even create a dialog where he is suspicious of their message. It's odd when personal sovereignty is on the line. What if Corey said "No" one evening and exercised his right to enjoy personal freedom? How would they react? Has he even tried to create a non-biased dialog with them?

A lot to consider. Why would an advanced race tell one person their true agenda? Because the message is being controlled, as well as the man, that could be one obvious reason. All of this needs to be considered when taking on material that espouses to know all the answers. I would find it refreshing if one of these days an ET said, "Hey, I actually do not know the answer to that question."