My review of Steven Greer's 'Unacknowledged'

[p+52]

Saw Dr. Steven Greer's new film Unacknowledged at the world premier in downtown LA last night (24th). The film packages a significant amount of documented material and eyewitnesses into a well produced, high production value documentary. This is sure to capture significant attention, already being the #1 trailer on iTunes.

The films aim takes into consideration all audience types. So it educates, brings viewers up to date, details the depth of USAPs (Unacknowledged Special Access Programs) and then forecast a likely scenario in which a mass, but false extraterrestrial invasion may be forthcoming. This would have been planned, funded, tested and ultimately rolled out without our consent, with a goal of future unification of the world. 

However his drive to make the film, as he detailed in his talk to the audience, was not to spread fear. Instead he wants to spearhead the development of a grass-roots effort to organize a citizen operated, open-source, safe harbor for the R&D community who were deep into these black programs to showcase (and demonstrate) the result of their work.  He was specific in narrowing this to anti-gravity and free energy systems (although I'm sure it could invite other research). He outlined a scenario contrary to companies like SpaceX where development is tightly guarded and proprietary. But instead (much like the popular open-source development site, Github) the world would be tuned in via live feed 24/7 to witness, for example a zero point energy system working. A lofty idea with good intentions, to ultimately create a revolution of technological advancement in plain sight.

Aside from anyones personal opinions about Dr Greer as a 'researcher', the film WILL have global appeal As many of you know. He currently carries that cache, which cannot be ignored.

But surprisingly absent from his film narrative is the future implications of another growing subject. Namely the secret space program, and the revelations being uncovered of high trafficked bases on the lunar surface and mars. As one who has researched the UFO subject for 30 years, this SSP subject, and its whistleblowers are rapidly coming to light faster than anything i've seen before! But it does not provide a puzzle piece that fits Greer’s Unacknowledged scenario.

The movie will be released on Vimeo, May 9.

Here is the link to buy the stream:
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/unacknowledged

[AutumnW]

Thank you for posting. It sounds like an interesting film. I spoke at length with someone who acted as a media consultant for the original Disclosure project. She (along with others) told Greer to drop the free energy mumbo jumbo as it served to dilute the greater message of alien contact -- at that time. He ignored her advice.

He has gotten nowhere in over 20 years blathering on about exotic energy. Nowhere. Why he persists is anybody's guess. This citizen's initiative, should it get going will put lots of money under his control and provide him with yet more narcissistic supply.

Are you aware that all of the original directors on the board of Cseti have left because they had grave concerns about him?

Fade him. He's a liar.

[Bill Ryan]

Are you aware that all of the original directors on the board of Cseti have left because they had grave concerns about him?


Yes, I can confirm this fully.

[abmqa]

Aside from anyones personal opinions about Dr Greer as a 'researcher', the film WILL have global appeal As many of you know. He currently carries that cache, which cannot be ignored.

I agree. This film will do well, not only because of Dr. Greer, but also because of the many credible witnesses / researchers that look to be in the film.

Although I don't agree with Dr. Greer's spin on the disclosure scenario, introducing these witnesses / researchers to an uninformed mainstream audience may offset anything negative that he brings to it.

[p+52]

He has gotten nowhere in over 20 years blathering on about exotic energy. Nowhere. Why he persists is anybody's guess. This citizen's initiative, should it get going will put lots of money under his control and provide him with yet more narcissistic supply.

Are you aware that all of the original directors on the board of Cseti have left because they had grave concerns about.

I merely want to observe the evolution of his popularity and his message. He is undeniably popular to a mainstream curious audience. His place in UFOlogy, and the growing popularity of Tom Delong is breaking through to mainstream demographics. From my perspective, knowing that there could also be a crafted agenda behind the scenes guiding his message, it is also an important perspective to have in understanding the broader truth.

If it was just some schmo off the street telling lies I wouldn't care, but his popularity is significant and worthy of note. If for no other reason there may be a choreographed message at hand.

[Scott]

Seen the film and I gotta say its good & Bad. Good because of the information that will reach the mass's and bad for the same reason. Its basically "The Greer Show", whats missing are other well known respected UFO researchers who i'm sure wouldn't be caught dead in a Greer production. Greer's unshakable assertions that All aliens are peaceful cuddly fluffy bunnies and all cattle mutilations are a Military program to make the aliens look bad are hotly debated by other credible UFO researchers (More than likely why they are absent from the film).

Greer in the Free Energy field is a joke, he is perhaps acting as a "milkman",identifying people in the free energy field, sucking them dry and never doing anything of actual significance, I have interviewed a few of the big named free energy inventors and to a man they either wouldn't go anywhere near Greer or have outright told him to F#!@ Off

So for the average joe this film is ok but for anyone who has studied UFOs and been involved in Field work on the subject, its a operation in misdirection.

Scott

[section9]

If I may borrow a phrase from Joseph P. Farrell and engage in some "high octane speculation": if you were managing compartmentalization and security for the Secret Space Program and the entire UFO Narrative for the Breakaway crowd, and you recognized that Stephen Greer might not be catching on, you might find someone else to peddle your wares.

Someone younger. Like Tom DeLonge.

Just a cautionary note.

[Honesty]

..........

[Bill Ryan]

He presents well but serves as a spoiler to advanced energy researchers - we know this first-hand, and Avalon forum mods know that we know.

Yes, we do.


You would cringe if you knew where most of the funds from his activities actually went, which is one big reason all of us got as far from the Greers as possible a few years ago.

This is important. To risk a summary, to add to iAMWE's: not one thing that Greer says or does can be trusted — and, in various different ways, his claimed information (and the man himself) might be very dangerous.

[Spellbound]

I've never understood his "there are no bad ET's" stance. To me, that's disinfo.

Dave - Toronto

[Bill Ryan]

I've never understood his "there are no bad ET's" stance. To me, that's disinfo.



Yes, of course it is. Worse than disinfo: it's a flat-out lie, and it's propaganda.

Here's a teaser question. To me, the answer is obvious.

Who might that propaganda benefit, or protect?

[Whiskey_Mystic]

He presents well but serves as a spoiler to advanced energy researchers - we know this first-hand, and Avalon forum mods know that we know.

Yes, we do.


You would cringe if you knew where most of the funds from his activities actually went, which is one big reason all of us got as far from the Greers as possible a few years ago.

This is important. To risk a summary, to add to iAMWE's: not one thing that Greer says or does can be trusted — and, in various different ways, his claimed information (and the man himself) might be very dangerous.

As I mentioned the last time this came up, Greer changed. He was different when he first appeared on the scene. His personality was more humble. Less brash. Less focused on monetization. His change of physique also indicates changes in lifestyle and focus. Could he be a walk in? A replacement? Tampered with? Who knows. But years ago, he seemed different than the slick con man we see today. And ...there's something unsettling in his field. Like radio static. If you feel uncomfortable just watching or listening to him, then you know what I mean. It's something creepy.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I've never understood his "there are no bad ET's" stance. To me, that's disinfo.



Yes, of course it is. Worse than disinfo: it's a flat-out lie, and it's propaganda.

Here's a teaser question. To me, the answer is obvious.

Who might that propaganda benefit, or protect?

At the risk of sounding really stupid and obvious, it would benefit/protect the "bad ETs" and those on Earth who co-operate with them.

[7alon]

I've never understood his "there are no bad ET's" stance. To me, that's disinfo.



Yes, of course it is. Worse than disinfo: it's a flat-out lie, and it's propaganda.

Here's a teaser question. To me, the answer is obvious.

Who might that propaganda benefit, or protect?

I would say the 'bad aliens' that are working with the elite. What confuses me is, Arthur Neumann said the ones he has seen or spoken with at work are friendly and have a sense of humour. Why would these beings want us to think there are no bad aliens.

I'm actually starting to think there is a good group of humans working with different aliens to the ones that work with the elite. Confusing.

[AutumnW]

He presents well but serves as a spoiler to advanced energy researchers - we know this first-hand, and Avalon forum mods know that we know.

Yes, we do.


You would cringe if you knew where most of the funds from his activities actually went, which is one big reason all of us got as far from the Greers as possible a few years ago.

This is important. To risk a summary, to add to iAMWE's: not one thing that Greer says or does can be trusted — and, in various different ways, his claimed information (and the man himself) might be very dangerous.

As I mentioned the last time this came up, Greer changed. He was different when he first appeared on the scene. His personality was more humble. Less brash. Less focused on monetization. His change of physique also indicates changes in lifestyle and focus. Could he be a walk in? A replacement? Tampered with? Who knows. But years ago, he seemed different than the slick con man we see today. And ...there's something unsettling in his field. Like radio static. If you feel uncomfortable just watching or listening to him, then you know what I mean. It's something creepy.

Greer is a victim of steroids and his own super size ego. His ego has grown in direct proportion to all the fawning and lionizing his 'supporters' throw his way.

I've spoken with the man who introduced him to Woolsey, former CIA director, when he visited my husband. From that conversation it seemed there wasn't much of a clandestine nature going on, just a lot of embarrassment after a simple dinner with friends. *but you NEVER know, in that community, right?* Human nature can also account for a lot of his Messianic histrionics.

Seeing as his encounter groups are based around "vectoring them in," or "calling them down," it makes sense that he would characterize the beings as all positive, light and love.

He's not going to have his followers read David Paulides books and then take them out for alien mind melds or direct experience. Greer may believe they are all positive or HE might be too afraid to go out there himself! So credit where credit's due. Plus he makes money by believing this. It's a coordinated effort of ego and narrow angle mental optics that help service monetary ends.

To dismiss all the negative abduction reports and cattle mutilations as Milabs is belief based and cannot even be substantiated to the degree that it makes sense as an opinion.

And he has been caught lying, big time, as in he probably should be doing jail time.

[TargeT]

a well produced, high production value documentary


ANNNNNDDDD I instantly doubt the film now.


If it has the finger prints of the parasites on it; do you think it's safe to consume?

[Bill Ryan]

Greer is a victim of steroids and his own super size ego. His ego has grown in direct proportion to all the fawning and lionizing his 'supporters' throw his way.

And, I am quite certain: also a victim of something that's totally 100% taken over his body (after his excellent Disclosure Project work in 2001, when he was a tall, skinny beanpole) — and has as its agenda to convince us that there are no bad ETs. Go figure.

[AutumnW]

Absolutely nothing would surprise me. If Greer pulled off his muscle suit onstage to reveal a skinny sixty something, knobby kneed reptoid, I'd probably just yawn and go home.

[Kristin]

If it has the finger prints of the parasites on it; do you think it's safe to consume?
With discernment one may be able to focus upon the eye witness testimony and glean interesting facts there. I will watch the film at some point, but when it's free and open-sourced to the public. The idea that all extraterrestrials are kind and benevolent is plain dangerous. No, I do not trust Greer either and it reminds me of others that are currently being scrutinized (as is appropriate to researching the truth movement).

[AutumnW]

Kristin,

Maybe most ET's are just flat out boring? Not good, not bad, just hyper-cerebral inter-galactic non-entities?

[Kristin]

Kristin,

Maybe most ET's are just flat out boring? Not good, not bad, just hyper-cerebral inter-galactic non-entities?

LOL! I do enjoy a good laugh. Thank you for that! :bigsmile: With the scope of life in the universe I have no doubt that there are many boring ET's.

[AutumnW]

Yep, it would be pretty weird if they snuck into your house at night, whipped up a batch of crispy pancakes to eat and then settled down to audit your income tax returns.

[Scott]

I will watch the film at some point, but when it's free and open-sourced to the public.

Its free now,just have to do a search on Movies online.

Scott

[Scott]

As I mentioned the last time this came up, Greer changed. He was different when he first appeared on the scene. His personality was more humble. Less brash. Less focused on monetization. His change of physique also indicates changes in lifestyle and focus. Could he be a walk in? A replacement? Tampered with? Who knows. But years ago, he seemed different than the slick con man we see today. And ...there's something unsettling in his field. Like radio static. If you feel uncomfortable just watching or listening to him, then you know what I mean. It's something creepy.

I have been saying for over a decade now that the difference between Greer before and after The Discloser project was profound. Before the Project he was a beanpole but spoke in a even toned voice, after the Project he was Buff,spoke effeminacy and was Gay. So Iv'e said Greer 2.0 may be a Clone. If that's true who is pulling the strings??

Scott

[Spellbound]

Here is the torrent for it:

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/17779035/Unacknowledged_(2017)_720p_WEB-DL_MkvCage

I DL'ed and watched it last night. Some good stuff in there. I'm not high on Greer (he's a bit too full of himself for my liking)....but it's a decent flick.

Dave - Toronto

[7alon]

Greer is a victim of steroids and his own super size ego. His ego has grown in direct proportion to all the fawning and lionizing his 'supporters' throw his way.

And, I am quite certain: also a victim of something that's totally 100% taken over his body (after his excellent Disclosure Project work in 2001, when he was a tall, skinny beanpole) — and has as its agenda to convince us that there are no bad ETs. Go figure.

This is the first I've heard anybody mention this as a possibility. Knowing you, Bill, I'd say you've heard something ;)

[Bill Ryan]

In the Avalon Library:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Unacknowledged_(2017)_Steven_Greer.mp4 (844 Mb)

[7alon]

In the Avalon Library:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Unacknowledged_(2017)_Steven_Greer.mp4 (844 Mb)


This may sound like a dumb question, but is it important to view this, even if it is disinformation?

[Honesty]

..........

[Mike]

In the Avalon Library:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Unacknowledged_(2017)_Steven_Greer.mp4 (844 Mb)


This may sound like a dumb question, but is it important to view this, even if it is disinformation?



Im about halfway thru.

It's actually quite good, with lots of valuable information....especially for the beginner.

Having said that, at the point im at now in the doc, Greer has yet to launch into his "all ET's are good" spiel(except for one small snippet).....so i'll reserve final judgement till ive seen the whole thing. But I have to admit, the documentary is put together quite well. Enjoying it so far.

I know all about Greer's bizarre profile. Ive been in the game for a while, so I can appreciate what I know to be true and discard the rest. Thats a pretty easy process for me. My only fear of course is that newcomers will find this doc exhilerating and will regard Greer as an authority and overly rely on his info alone instead of branching out a bit.

UPDATE: okay, I just got to the "all aliens are good" part and the "abductions and mutilations are staged" part. Of course, some aliens are good, and some abductions may be staged...but not to the exclusion of all the real, authentic experiences. Yes, I know most of you know this, but im going to write it anyway because alotta people read this forum, and you never know who might be affected by your words. Plus, there is a very odd over reliance on Richard Doty(of all people:facepalm:) for insider testimony. Ah man...that doc started out so promising....sigh

[7alon]

In the Avalon Library:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Unacknowledged_(2017)_Steven_Greer.mp4 (844 Mb)


This may sound like a dumb question, but is it important to view this, even if it is disinformation?



Im about halfway thru.

It's actually quite good, with lots of valuable information....especially for the beginner.

Having said that, at the point im at now in the doc, Greer has yet to launch into his "all ET's are good" spiel(except for one small snippet).....so i'll reserve final judgement till ive seen the whole thing. But I have to admit, the documentary is put together quite well. Enjoying it so far.

I know all about Greer's bizarre profile. Ive been in the game for a while, so I can appreciate what I know to be true and discard the rest. Thats a pretty easy process for me. My only fear of course is that newcomers will find this doc exhilerating and will regard Greer as an authority and overly rely on his info alone instead of branching out a bit.

Notice how Greer talks about dealing with the Clintons, Podesta, etc. I am almost halfway through. Podesta, Obama and the Clintons are part of the group that worships negative entities, which involves torture and human sacrifice. Edit: Oh and I forgot to mention him working with Laurance Rockefeller.

[abmqa]

In the Avalon Library:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Unacknowledged_(2017)_Steven_Greer.mp4 (844 Mb)




This may sound like a dumb question, but is it important to view this, even if it is disinformation?

I would say Yes. If viewed with discernment in mind.

[7alon]

Does anybody know who the man is in this film that has glasses, grey hair, grey moustache and a red sweater/jumper? I am interested to learn more about him. He is on during different periods, but he is on at 70:18, which is where I'm upto.

[Bill Ryan]

Does anybody know who the man is in this film that has glasses, grey hair, grey moustache and a red sweater/jumper? I am interested to learn more about him. He is on during different periods, but he is on at 70:18, which is where I'm upto.

Wow. Hats off to you. :bowing: I took a good close look.

I'm 99.9% sure this is Richard Doty, the subject of the excellent documentary, Mirage Men. (It's in the Avalon Library, here (http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage Men (2013).mp4): recommended. Yours truly features in several places in the last 20 mins of the film.)

Doty is a famous disinformant, and I've had some interesting personal dealings with him.

http://projectavalon.net/Richard_Doty_in_Unacknowledged.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Richard_Doty_in_Mirage_Men.jpg

[Kevan]

100% Sure.

https://i0.wp.com/harro63.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/screen-shot-2017-05-15-at-16-44-00.png?ssl=1&w=450

[AutumnW]

Let me get this straight. Doty of Project Serpo AND the Bennewitz fiasco? Did Greer not even do a quick google search of this dude before providing him with a format for ever more lying?

[Bill Ryan]

Let me get this straight. Doty of Project Serpo AND the Bennewitz fiasco? Did Greer not even do a quick google search of this dude before providing him with a format for ever more lying?

Yes, the same guy. Greer certainly knows all about him.

Doty does know (and sometimes talk about) some real stuff. But basically, he's an on-off disinformant, and always has been. That's the (designed) problem with disinformation: some if it is true, and some isn't.

The Mirage Men documentary is excellent — highly recommended. It's all about Doty, and the hall of mirrors he lives and works in.


http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage%20Men%20(2013).mp4

[AutumnW]

Yes, I watched it and liked it but was confused by what seemed to be a paralleling premise -- that the subject of UFOs as an arena for honest research, was also open to scorn. Did it seem to you that the film tarred all research with the same brush, or left it so open ended that the uninformed would reach that conclusion by default?

[mojo]

edit: (since added to Greer post) Thought it would be good to hear and listen to Greer. Can we discern more about him through his words and are the rumors true? We all know this channel for hoaxing and just like thirdphaseofmoon sometimes they get to interview good guests like Dr. Roger Leir before he passed on. This time Tyler secures an interview with Greer which is the most recent of Greer's interviews posted. Does posting occasional good content redeem channels like secureteam after all the questions on their authenticity?

Does the video tell any new insight to Greer? I thought his new movie was boring and couldnt watch it all, but this video was more interesting.

iwubPWt_lrE

[Bill Ryan]

Does the video tell any new insight to Greer?


Yes. He chose Secureteam 10 to talk to. That says something. :)

And wowed by the ratings and $$ it brings them, they'd never seriously challenge him.

[UfonautRadio]

I have to say, I watched the movie and really enjoyed it. If you can get past the narcissistic elements, the film is really good. I especially liked Part III. Movies in this genre usually look crappy, and have terrible acting, sound, etc. This film is a great one for newbies, and others that don't know why our industrial complex would want to suppress technology.

I love giving credit when it's due no matter who it is. Nice job Greer.

[mojo]

Agree Bill and ironic secureteam... At 42 minutes Greer talks about the Atacama humanoid again with an update for us. That person he mentions is Garry Nolan whom visited hear in Oregon for the UFO contact. It was neat he showed files on his ipad on the little humanoid and back then in the early analysis Gary was not sold it was an ET, but Greer makes it sound like he changed his opinion.

[Bluegreen]

Greer has certainly come under fire here and elsewhere in recent times. I for one will not forget he put together the Disclosure Project in 2001, which thankfully is still available to the public. To me its like a band that puts out one great album and nothing but junk afterwards. I may not buy the junk, but I'll keep that great first album in my collection.

Greer:facepalm:
+
Secureteam10:facepalm:
= ??

In mathematics two negatives make a positive
Just sayin'
Not:silent:

[UfonautRadio]

I have to say this doc was much better than the last Sirius... No funny skeletons in this one. Well one flash of it for a sec, lol...

[mojo]

In mathematics two negatives make a positive
your math is awesome! ...;)

[EFO]

Greer:facepalm:
+
Secureteam10:facepalm:
= ??

In mathematics two negatives make a positive
Just sayin'
Not:silent:

In physics gives rejection. :)

[Bluegreen]

In physics gives rejection. :)

That's a little beyond my pay grade EFO
I have trouble enough counting the strings on a bass guitar

:)

[Bill Ryan]

I love giving credit when it's due no matter who it is. Nice job Greer.

Yes, it's very well done. (Watching it now.) The first 6 minutes, over the opening credits, really are recommended. (Horrific scenes of humanity at its worst, with Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" in the background.)

But you see, here's the strategy.


Keep on rolling out Greer as the glossy spokesperson to reach Mr and Mrs Everyman. (Just like Al Gore with 'Global Warming'.)
Keep Greer on ice (probably blackmailed, at least, but certainly with the agenda) in the event of a formal or semi-formal public 'disclosure' event.
The mainstream media all flock to Greer for high-profile comments. (They're all told to, of course.)
Greer authoritatively reassures everyone with the "All ETs are friendly" and "There are no ET abductions" meme.
One major PR problem solved for the US Government.

[EFO]

That's a little beyond my pay grade EFO
I have trouble enough counting the strings on a bass guitar

:)

:bigsmile::happythumbsup::bigsmile::happythumbsup:

[AutumnW]

Greer is a victim of steroids and his own super size ego. His ego has grown in direct proportion to all the fawning and lionizing his 'supporters' throw his way.

And, I am quite certain: also a victim of something that's totally 100% taken over his body (after his excellent Disclosure Project work in 2001, when he was a tall, skinny beanpole) — and has as its agenda to convince us that there are no bad ETs. Go figure.

This is the first I've heard anybody mention this as a possibility. Knowing you, Bill, I'd say you've heard something ;)

I'm thinking the cockroach exterminator from the first Men in Black movie!:bigsmile:

[UfonautRadio]

OMG funny... Bill, no one is going to have the insight that you do on him. They just won't.

As far as the intro, I thought it was really in poor taste as well. I like part III

[EFO]

Greer is a victim of steroids and his own super size ego. His ego has grown in direct proportion to all the fawning and lionizing his 'supporters' throw his way.

And, I am quite certain: also a victim of something that's totally 100% taken over his body (after his excellent Disclosure Project work in 2001, when he was a tall, skinny beanpole) — and has as its agenda to convince us that there are no bad ETs. Go figure.

This is the first I've heard anybody mention this as a possibility. Knowing you, Bill, I'd say you've heard something ;)

I'm thinking the cockroach exterminator from the first Men in Black movie!:bigsmile:

Edgar? :bigsmile::happythumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQd2Rpv-f9c

[RunningDeer]

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/thinker_zpsqrb4vjo3.GIF

Out of all the species in the world, why did they choose the bluebird (http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg) for a 6 sec. appearance @ 1:30:35?


snapshot from documentary
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/project-bluebird_zps0fneendu.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

A small piece of trivia: the anonymous retired officer featured at several points in the film is Bill Holden, a very good man.

I recognized him because he told several of the same stories that he shared in our 2007 Project Camelot interview (http://www.projectcamelot.org/bill_holden.html) of him. (He served on Air Force One, and talked to Kennedy abut UFOs.)

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Holden_Unacknowledged.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Holden_Camelot.jpg

[7alon]

100% Sure.

https://i0.wp.com/harro63.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/screen-shot-2017-05-15-at-16-44-00.png?ssl=1&w=450

Ha thanks Bill and Kevan. I must have briefly missed his introduction when my partner briefly spoke to me :facepalm:

I like to check the names of the witnesses to see if they have a history.

The hardest part of researching is the discerning of disinformation. :idea:

[abmqa]

I love giving credit when it's due no matter who it is. Nice job Greer.

Yes, it's very well done. (Watching it now.) The first 6 minutes, over the opening credits, really are recommended. (Horrific scenes of humanity at its worst, with Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" in the background.)

But you see, here's the strategy.


Keep on rolling out Greer as the glossy spokesperson to reach Mr and Mrs Everyman. (Just like Al Gore with 'Global Warming'.)
Keep Greer on ice (probably blackmailed, at least, but certainly with the agenda) in the event of a formal or semi-formal public 'disclosure' event.
The mainstream media all flock to Greer for high-profile comments. (They're all told to, of course.)
Greer authoritatively reassures everyone with the "All ETs are friendly" and "There are no ET abductions" meme.
One major PR problem solved for the US Government.




Bill I think you are spot on with your assessment. In particular with reference to him being "Blackmailed".

If I am aware of his personal proclivities. (though I care nothing about that) I am fairly sure that certain Intel agencies are also aware and are more than capable of using it against him.

Also, I noticed being less than 10 minutes into the presentation and he hoisted up the "All ETs are friendly" position.

[abmqa]

Does anybody know who the man is in this film that has glasses, grey hair, grey moustache and a red sweater/jumper? I am interested to learn more about him. He is on during different periods, but he is on at 70:18, which is where I'm upto.

Wow. Hats off to you. :bowing: I took a good close look.

I'm 99.9% sure this is Richard Doty, the subject of the excellent documentary, Mirage Men. (It's in the Avalon Library, here (http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage Men (2013).mp4): recommended. Yours truly features in several places in the last 20 mins of the film.)

Doty is a famous disinformant, and I've had some interesting personal dealings with him.

http://projectavalon.net/Richard_Doty_in_Unacknowledged.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Richard_Doty_in_Mirage_Men.jpg

Bill, wasn't Doty involved in trying to provide disinformation to Linda Moulton Howe?

Also, if possible, can you share the personal dealings you had with Richard Doty here?

[section9]

Does anybody know who the man is in this film that has glasses, grey hair, grey moustache and a red sweater/jumper? I am interested to learn more about him. He is on during different periods, but he is on at 70:18, which is where I'm upto.

Wow. Hats off to you. :bowing: I took a good close look.

I'm 99.9% sure this is Richard Doty, the subject of the excellent documentary, Mirage Men. (It's in the Avalon Library, here (http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage Men (2013).mp4): recommended. Yours truly features in several places in the last 20 mins of the film.)

Doty is a famous disinformant, and I've had some interesting personal dealings with him.

http://projectavalon.net/Richard_Doty_in_Unacknowledged.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Richard_Doty_in_Mirage_Men.jpg

Bill, wasn't Doty involved in trying to provide disinformation to Linda Moulton Howe?

Also, if possible, can you share the personal dealings you had with Richard Doty here?

The key thing about Doty's presence in the movie is this: Greer knows that 95% of the viewers on Netflix or in the various arthouse cinemas that will show this film will have no idea about the controversy surrounding Richard Doty in the Alternative Research Community, nor will they ever have heard of Linda Moulton Howe.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, wasn't Doty involved in trying to provide disinformation to Linda Moulton Howe?

Yes. Google ["Richard Doty" + "Linda Howe"] and you'll find a ton of references.

Linda also talks about it on camera in Mirage Men. (In the Avalon Library, here (http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage%20Men%20%282013%29.mp4).)


Also, if possible, can you share the personal dealings you had with Richard Doty here?

I met Doty several times back in 2006, and corresponded with him a lot more. As presented in Mirage Men (which was made with Doty's full co-operation, go figure!) he's a trickster, and an extremely good one.

Paradoxically, it's extremely hard to dislike him. I'm certain he uses that to full advantage, all the time. :)

The most interesting single conversation I had with him was a two-and-three-quarter hour meeting at Kerry Cassidy's house, unrecorded and off record. He does know a lot of stuff, for sure. I'd guess that everything he talks about in Unacknowledged is true.

[abmqa]

Thanks Bill, I have not seen Mirage Men. I am adding it to my watch list now.

[sunwings]

Just finished watching it and was very impressed. However on reflection.....

1. Any viewer will be left feeling powerless by the end of it due to the mountain of secrecy about this subject
2. The final positive chapter, will quickly leave the viewer angry at the world we are trapped in

These feeling of powerless and anger are far from the emotional intelligence needed to begin to tackle this problem.

As a remedy why not sign up to Gaia TV and feast on the hopeporn of Goode and Wilcox and hope what they see is true which is disclosure is coming and the Cabal are about to be defeated.

And finally relax......

[Bluegreen]

www.UFOwatchdog.com

LOL!!
I took "The Quiz" and got 31
Official Scoring System sez:
"You can wear an 'I'm with the band' t-shirt, but you can't play"
I'm not even qualified to be on this thread!

:(

[avatar]

Does anyone know, does James Gilliland have the same premise? No bad ETs? What is your opinion of him?

[AutumnW]

I know these two REALLY don't like each other. Think Gilliland is less 'space-brotherish' than Greer. They are competitors, I guess?

[CurEus]

Here we go again. People promoting themselves instead of their work.

I may watch it eventually but I tend to cringe at most of what he has said in previous presentations. His work towards disclosure, press conferences and citizen inquiries are actually great ideas and have achieved much good.
His messages to the public are often obnoxiously deceptive. His sales of "experiences" and the like seem like nothing more than snake oil.

Witness after witness have made it abundantly clear that there are intelligences that are truly hostile towards humanity. THIS I will not step down from and he is DANGEROUS and irresponsible to communicate anything otherwise. I am of the opinion that there "may" be a few nice ET's but by and large they seem to be either hostile, ambivalent, apathetic or too impotent to do much anything to change what is going on here. I tend not to buy the whole "prime directive" "non interference" free will" BS very much.

I do accept that the "good" ET's were likely told that if they intervene our handlers/jailers will blow up the entire planet and us with it. THAT may give them some pause. That also makes them considerably LESS capable than what we would need in allies. So, we'll have to look after ourselves.

[CurEus]

hmm maybe I'm jaded. I'm sorry...I'm sure the Blue Big Bird Sphere Alliance Federation and Corey Goode will save us all with his "super awesome diplomatic super soldier skillz"

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[Bill Ryan]

Here we go again. People promoting themselves instead of their work.



Yep. Go look at the short segment beginning at 46:28 (Paula/RunningDeer? :) ), where Greer is crying — apparently because he was asked to brief the CIA director back in the 1990s.

That segment is faked. He's really crying, for sure, but if you look very carefully, you can see the way it's been very cleverly cut, and stitched together, when he's shedding tears he's talking about something else. (My guess: the death of a colleague, the rest of which was edited out.)

He's 100% certainly not in tears because he had to brief the CIA director. But the PR impression deliberately given is that of an innocent man of honor who is emotionally devastated when he discovers the extent of the hall of mirrors.

[Warren Peace]

Kristin,

Maybe most ET's are just flat out boring? Not good, not bad, just hyper-cerebral inter-galactic non-entities?


Uh-huh,Yeah!

[peace]

Alright. Forgive me. I've been away a while and this reaction to Dr. Greer is AMAZING to see!!!!!!

(Mr. Ryan played a cool, key roll in Mirage Men; was fun to see after being a member here for so long and the small, brief interactions I've had with him on here.)

But my question to this community is:
How do we fight back? Truly. Seriously. How?

Greer lost me years ago, like most of you, with the aforementioned monetization of the information he has, the "I know this (whatever it is) is true, but cannot divulge any of the information," "I'm briefing everyone up to and including Jesus on these matters," "all ETs are good guys," and now, "I'll control the monies involved in sourcing zero point energy."

Sirius, while interesting, regarding Atacama Man and the loose threads there, show Dr. Greer's descent. And I hate saying all of this, like most of you because the 2001 press conference really, really had potential and I think he started off really, really well.

That event is why I'm here typing this now, honestly. That group of witnesses was amazing. Still watch it from time to time.

And while I don't think he's a Reptoid, he's definitely on TRT and possibly been on HGH before. He's a doctor, he probably has his levels in check. Lifting weights is awesome. He found a way to make it more awesome. He's in danger of heart issues being on the stuff, but the pragmatic side of me thinks that's the case. Nothing more, because honestly, if we don't believe his information, we don't trust him, why would we think he's under "control" of an evil species (other than MAN - we are a strange and violent species).

Don't. DON'T Get me started on Wilcock. How that guy has made a dollar since he started is beyond me. Looks "kinda" like an old dead fella, now a millionaire, I'm sure, and that's why we are to believe him?

My favorite line by that guy was about being approached regarding Montauk by a "scary biker looking guy," in a restaurant (whom ended up being a "reliable source" - check all of his sources - wait, you can't) but "I know martial arts so I wasn't afraid." I've Been doing jiu-jitsu and muay thai for years myself. If you aren't afraid or at least a bit nervous, you've never had your ass beat in the gym ... or elsewhere. My point is, dude's never been punched in the face (at least in a fight situation - a sucker punch I can see). Okay, I'm done. I get in trouble going on about that guy (totally fair by the way, mods, if I crossed the line, I'll serve my punishment ... again.).

This community and others like it are way too smart for these guys. And I'm so happy to see this reaction. Too much of the same. A lot of promises, nothing on the follow through.

But the question remains:
How do we fight back? Because I certainly don't know the answer. And I'm also very certainly saddened these people act, at times, as OUR representatives to the world.

And I'm afraid the same B.S. is coming down the line from Tom DeLonge - the Jimmy Church interview was great - the book was - not so great. Monetization. Websites. Books. Movie Deals. "Let's make Disclosure accessible, easily digestible." It's not. Stop trying.

OR: This could all be those that give directives to Doty have 1000 more Doty's out there doing their Doty thing.

How do we, collectively put a stop to this nonsense?

It's just the most frustrating piece of all of this for me.

Sorry for the rant. Just curious if anyone has a piece of the puzzle to our fight back.

I'm truly thankful for the review.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

I love giving credit when it's due no matter who it is. Nice job Greer.

Yes, it's very well done. (Watching it now.) The first 6 minutes, over the opening credits, really are recommended. (Horrific scenes of humanity at its worst, with Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" in the background.)

But you see, here's the strategy.


Keep on rolling out Greer as the glossy spokesperson to reach Mr and Mrs Everyman. (Just like Al Gore with 'Global Warming'.)
Keep Greer on ice (probably blackmailed, at least, but certainly with the agenda) in the event of a formal or semi-formal public 'disclosure' event.
The mainstream media all flock to Greer for high-profile comments. (They're all told to, of course.)
Greer authoritatively reassures everyone with the "All ETs are friendly" and "There are no ET abductions" meme.
One major PR problem solved for the US Government.


I'm really late to the party here, I just started watching this documentary last night. One thing I noticed is that Greer mentioned in the first 25% of the film that once he did the disclosure project in 2001, he was regularly approached by people that were actively involved with intelligence agencies.

Richard Dolan mentions in his book and lectures that folks in this area that work for intelligence are completely controlled and blackmailed in order to keep this information secret. Seems pretty likely that someone like Greer would have been in multiple positions, by his own report, to have been introduced to the intelligence community.

Also in the film, Greer reports that he had one of clinton's bigwigs over to his house for dinner, and the bigwig told him in front of his kids that Clinton couldn't dig more into the UFO issue because of the concern that he might end up like Kennedy.

These things are big red flags for me. Someone who is trying to protect their family would have really clear boundaries in this space and meet with these people outside of their home. I also wonder why Greer would agree to meet with people that came to him from intel agencies. I'd tell em to kick rocks.

[Star Tsar]

The latest from Dr Greer...


The Carol Rosin Show

Dr. Steven Greer | What's Happening Now In UFO & Other Related Issues

Broadcast & Published 14th September 2017

Dr. Steven Greer goes beyond where he has ever gone before in this comprehensive packed update and overview, including his three part “TO DO, now. He tells us about what’s really going on right now regarding UFO’s, and about what we can and need to get done locally, nationally, around the world and in the context higher universal being perspective and cosmic one consciousness, and why. This very special timely briefing introduces the complexity of this issue as it fits into today's environmental, economic, political, technical, social, cultural, spiritual and psychological states with his feasible new vision and a concise strategic new action plan for change. This presentation reaches beyond disclosure and into ideas for forming exciting clusters to produce pivotal producing actions, solutions, that lead us away from the current extinction process and into a beautiful realistic near-term future that can actually happen if these specific steps are taken…we can do this!

Carol Rosin:
http://www.peaceinspace.com
spacetreaty@gmail.com

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[Foxie Loxie]

Seems like quite a bit of "pie in the sky" talk when one thinks of the reality of our world wide "system". The one thing I did learn was about the Neutrino Light Detectors. Had never heard about that....so...space is already weaponized & countries signing a treaty of some sort would mean diddly squat as far as not weaponizing "space"! :mmph:

[ExomatrixTV]

Unacknowledged - Full Movie

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[dynamo]

In case you were wondering (as was I) what this is about:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6400614/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl

"Unacknowledged" focuses on the historic files of the Disclosure Project and how UFO secrecy has been ruthlessly enforced-and why.
The best evidence for extraterrestrial contact, dating back decades, is presented with direct top-secret witness testimony, documents and UFO footage, 80% of which has never been revealed anywhere else.
The behind-the-scenes research and high-level meetings convened by Dr. Steven Greer will expose the degree of illegal, covert operations at the core of UFO secrecy.
From briefings with the CIA Director, top Pentagon Generals and Admirals, to the briefing of President Obama via senior advisor John Podesta, chairman of the Hillary Clinton Campaign, we take the viewer behind the veil of secrecy and into the corridors of real power where the UFO secrets reside. The viewer will learn that a silent coup d'état has occurred dating back to the 1950s and that the Congress, the President and other world leaders have been sidelined by criminal elements within the military-industrial-financial complex.

[mojo]

The guest discusses exactly the flaw in Greer's thinking at 23 minutes in... have always respected Greer for his overall knowledge and helped to consider the possibilities that contact might entail when thinking about personal contact. He was describing some cutting edge contact in the early days of his encounters but believe somewhere along the line he lost his connection to them especially when charging people 1K for going out on a field trip with him. The ETs he claimed contact with, the one's that were highly intelligent and benevolent must not have liked that idea of charging to "see them," and soon Greer's evidence wasn't very exciting. I haven't watched his newest movie and not sure why?
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[ghostrider]

I've never understood his "there are no bad ET's" stance. To me, that's disinfo.

Dave - Toronto I've read information from the 1970s that said we were stupid for sending out probes giving the location of earth, our DNA, etc ... There are savage ETs out there that would try and enslave us under a dictatorship , and a conflict with these degenerate creatures is unavoidable ...

[Spellbound]

One could say we are already enslaved and have been for a very long time.

Dave - Toronto

[DeeMetrios]

he has his followers ...
but i think his biggest deceptions/dis-info is yet to come .
listeners beware , discern .

[Limor Wolf]

One could say we are already enslaved and have been for a very long time.

Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave, I agree with you that society is indeed enslaved for a long time, but the human 'controllers', non human controllers and planners of all matrixes are enslaved even further - they are captured by their own submission to the 'dream reality' that is dreamt in here and taken all so seriously being fed by data (without any intention to belittle any ounce of our experiences here) , and when playing with others on 'their own creation' those 'architects of dreams' are in actuality playing with themselves and may have figured that out in the meantime - as nothing is disconnected from anything else.. choices can be made from either eccentric experimenting using others as tools or from wisdom, compassion and transparency for the intent of 'playing' evolution- Oneness is and always was a truth - separation an illusion. Every time a reset happens - they are resetting themselves.. arranging themselves deeper and deeper to a place of decay, a place on non coming back, to being dissolved.

Unless..

Interestingly enough, such is not the case with the majority of participants themselves of (off) the game, who can, able and will wake up from it - outside of their 'roles and replicas', without embarrassment, within self forgiveness, no blame or shame, and see it for what it is even though the waking up may be initially to another dream - at least it potentially be a pleasant one (a current point of view which I am not married to). The 'reality dream' here is based on 'personalities' and 'identities' (identifying with the 'role playing') be it 'Steven Greer' or 'Richard Dollan' or 'Ethel Smith' as David Icke say - the hanging out to it without going through a deprogramming path from all false scripts and Matrixes is what keeps the 'game' going the way it is - based on the 'law of polarities', solidifying and making this creation significant... interesting concept of this dream reality. The greatest forgiveness will have to be given.. but the terms leading to it will have to be sincerely acknowledged by the 'script writers' themselves - no matter what step in the ladder they are 'occupying'

Above every roof there is a higher roof - infinite awareness injected in all levels has the possibility to change it all, therefore waking up to greater consciousness has it's value in it's limitless contribution that can't be fenced or put in a box

There was a thread about Steven Greer a couple of years ago -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70753-Greer-on-Gov-ET-interactions&p=826271&viewfull=1#post826271

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70753-Greer-on-Gov-ET-interactions&p=826383&viewfull=1#post826383

I am not specifically responding here to Dave, just in general :)


Many Blessings to one and all ~

Limor

[ZoSo925]

Here we go again. People promoting themselves instead of their work.



Yep. Go look at the short segment beginning at 46:28 (Paula/RunningDeer? :) ), where Greer is crying — apparently because he was asked to brief the CIA director back in the 1990s.

That segment is faked. He's really crying, for sure, but if you look very carefully, you can see the way it's been very cleverly cut, and stitched together, when he's shedding tears he's talking about something else. (My guess: the death of a colleague, the rest of which was edited out.)

He's 100% certainly not in tears because he had to brief the CIA director. But the PR impression deliberately given is that of an innocent man of honor who is emotionally devastated when he discovers the extent of the hall of mirrors.


I just saw that video the other day but can't remember the title or youtube link. There were various things I was reading about him regarding the CIA briefing comments; then I saw that video and had that in mind and same time noticed that weird glitch ~!!

So funny I stumbled across this thread and saw your post.