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ScorpION
19th May 2017, 15:19
! My first thread,hopefully worth while. So I was thinking of a possible agenda and wanted some thoughts! I read an article today about young people leaving the republican party in droves. It almost seems as if the PTB put trump where he is for just this reason. As I think most are aware,the democratic party is one based on dependence type mentality and control over everthing. So it would be smart to put such a person in as a republican president to push everyone towards the opposing side. Hence more control of the people in a two party system. Both of which are never going to be for the people. :facepalm:
I think there is more to it as well but...couldn't help but have this go through my mind as I read it. John

DeDukshyn
19th May 2017, 15:36
 
Here is a great thread that discusses the purposes of "right" vs "left" .... http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94534-Left-and-Right-It-seems-so-obvious- :)

I am certain you can relate to what is being discussed and it is incredibly important to understand "left vs right" as a tool the "rulers" wield to exert greater control over the masses than a system without such a devised spectrum. Those who get caught up in this political game are really just being pawns to this style of governance - most people in government don't even realize this themselves.


When you are a ruler and you want free reign to do what you want while at the same time giving the illusion of freedom and democracy, the two winged system allows you to make decisions that cover any area of the spectrum. When the masses get sick of how constant decision making from one end of that spectrum serves to not be "for" the people, the people, rather than rioting and overthrowing their "rulers", can merely vote in the "opposing" party and get opposite decision making, to alleviate them for a while until the get angry when they see that this government also is not working for them, back and forth, etc, etc.

All the while, the rulers are unimpeded in their decision making - certain decisions are just made while one wing of the government is in place and the others when the other wing is in place -- no impedance to them and their plans, and we fight each other instead of looking to the source of the actual problems.

For terminology: "rulers", as I referred to, are above the governments above the presidents and prime ministers,, above borders, and politics. Politics is a tool they wield.

Western democracy is an illusion.

ScorpION
19th May 2017, 15:56
Yes all solid information... I guess to rephrase,could this be a bigger push towards total control?

drgreig
19th May 2017, 17:21
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drgreig
19th May 2017, 17:26
Yes all solid information... I guess to rephrase,could this be a bigger push towards total control?

Yes...according to George Orwell's expose of this global agenda - in his book 1984 - this BIG (but a very slow and covert) push towards total control is a SOCIALIST agenda. Basically, to hijack everything that is good about forming a Global Society and rule with an evil, oppressive "Boot to the Face".

Oligarchy is humanity's greatest foe.

Helene West
19th May 2017, 20:55
Ugh. When is Game of Thrones coming back on? I feel I'm living in the modern version

DeDukshyn
19th May 2017, 21:32
Yes all solid information... I guess to rephrase,could this be a bigger push towards total control?

I my opinion this type of control has always been there - democracy was devised with this strategy in mind more or less from the outset -- what democracy doesn't have it? We are just becoming aware of it. The rising awareness in humanity, which is reflected externally as available information, is something that the "PTB" have little control over without a major reset of their crafting. What they are trying to do is "Act" quickly before they get overthrown, to tighten control over the general population.

We still have to be careful, every time we say "this is left wing operation" or "a right wing agenda" we are still playing the game that keeps them in power. I will say again that the higher ups "PTB" see no borders, no politics, no skin colour even. Those are the tools that keeps us distracted from noticing them and what they do. They only care about keeping their riches and their powers. That's it, and they are in a sense scrambling to change the power structure enough to keep that control despite the rising awareness.

It is natural that humans, as they evolve socially and spiritually, will eventually see less division, less segregation, less fear of each other - and this is also a partly result of the rising internal awareness. As this progresses we will natural see less utility of borders, skin colour, "politics", etc. as those utilities are tools to motivate people with fear of themselves / each other, and as we see what they are, we will become less fearful of each other.

At the same time, there's a pool of nasty sharks in the side pools trying to guide this natural process to a point where the can quickly jump in and implement rigid and controlling one world government with a select few at the top. It is natural that we evolve toward the breakdowns of barriers and fears within our societies, it is not natural that this process will be attempted to be hijacked by those with nefarious intentions.

ScorpION
19th May 2017, 22:18
DeDuksyn..been watching this site for awhile and always appreciated your outlook!
And yes control has most def always been there but is it moving more towards "chips,1984,born with one number for everything" type things? These wings belong to the same bird as Dr Greig said.. So interesting when you realize something! Even though you have known all the long... Thanks guys! John

Wizard Of Ozark
19th May 2017, 22:32
I don't want to be one of those "I've been saying this for years" Monday morning quarterbacks, but I have. When you have the same corporate, big money, interests donating to both major parties... well, it just gets kind of obvious, doesn't it? Two wings.. same bird. Absolutely. We are just allowed to bicker over issues that don't affect their money interests and that divide us... distract us and keep us busy fighting... not seeing our real common enemy... raping and pillaging us in plain sight.

Bubu
19th May 2017, 23:31
We are just allowed to bicker over issues that don't affect their money interests and that divide us...

may I remind everyone that its never about the money. They want to own the planet and everything in it. These are the ones with real values and while they are aware of it most of us are not.

Wizard Of Ozark
20th May 2017, 00:04
We are just allowed to bicker over issues that don't affect their money interests and that divide us...

may I remind everyone that its never about the money. They want to own the planet and everything in it. These are the ones with real values and while they are aware of it most of us are not.

Well, to me that's pretty much the same thing as wanting all the money, but I hear what you're saying. I think your way of stating it is probably more accurate. I think that they are "insane" by most of our standards. Yeah.. it's about power and control. Anyone who is a multi-billionaire and still wants more (I think I read or heard a similar Bob Dean quote) is not a good person, IMO, generally speaking.

section9
20th May 2017, 00:10
Republicans: " Soylent Green Day should be Tuesday!"
Democrats: " No! The Rethuglikkkan is Racist for saying such a thing! Soylent Green Day should be Wednesday!"

Bubu
20th May 2017, 02:30
and of course what could be the the possible agenda of politics other than control... of earth and everything in it. I dont think there is much to deliberate on the issue of how its done. If politics is about control then stay away from it. I haven't voted for 3 decades already. dont pay taxes and all government s****. until government become true pro people I would have nothing to do with it as long as I can avoid.

ScorpION
21st May 2017, 04:57
Taken off front page.....wow
Sorry to disappoint that much!

amor
21st May 2017, 16:38
This is why ordinary people are being impoverished, so that they are so busy trying to stay alive, housed and fed that they do not have the time to group together, exchange information, and fight the BAS*****.