Everything exists?

[WhiteLove]

Here is an interesting article (http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/scientists-find-what-could-be-the-first-proof-of-parallel-universes) about the possibility that we live in a multiverse.

My experience is that the perspective of a human mind is typically under such great limitation that it cannot easily accept the concept of an infinitely miraculous creation. The idea of 200+ trillion galaxies in our universe is very mind bending, but when you expand that to infinite other universes, infinite multiverses and so on, at some point you hit a limit in the human brain when it cannot imagine anything greater, yet if creation is infinite there are always greater planes of existence it is just that they remain totally unknown because they are beyond our current intelligence level to imagine. But I think there are an infinite number of imagination levels/scopes and all of them are manifested in creation.

Part of the process of ascension could very well be to collectively and individually expand our imagination and be creative with that. It appears it is about learning about truth and breaking down limitations and breaking free from them.

[Ernie Nemeth]

The way I like to approach the idea of infinity is to consider what an infinity must entail.

First, infinity in subjective terms must be based on empirical information. Yet empirical information is both tentative and incomplete because they are objective (from a subjective point of view, which is all we can ever have). The objective is the unknown (or better put, includes it). Infinity in objective terms is merely a limit based on set parameters - a given, like constants in mathematical equations, it just is. Everything in existence, then, is but a derivative of that constant. The theory of infinite sets ponders whether itself is included in the set, thereby becoming infinitely regressive, or, a derivative of itself.

Second and far more important, infinity in objective terms must be based on interpreted information. This comes back to the pertinent idea that a rock means nothing by itself. If in all creation there is only this small piece of rock and nothing else, it may as well not exist. Why? Because there is nothing to contemplate the meaning of the rock. It is the meaning, the subjective portion, that is important and has ultimate pertinence.

What is the meaning of infinity? It may well exist, but what does it mean?

The meaning of infinity is life. It is life that bestows upon the universe purpose and through that purpose expressed, direction. Purpose expresses as consciousness, direction expresses as the field. And here are your two first principles: consciousness and energy. Proving yet again: Intelligent Design.

The specific point in the op, does the universe have multiple iterations each just a bit off the one adjacent to it, can now be better addressed. It can be answered very simply by asking another question: are there portions of the human psyche that remain buried and unexplored? If there are then the concept of universe, as we understand it right now, is probably tentative and incomplete (see above).

Although universe by default includes unknown qualities those qualities cannot be implied through deductive reasoning because they are unknown (and so for the moment they must lie outside the bounds of our concept of universe). But by applying the second point above it is possible to firmly attest that all aspects of self are included in reality somewhere, obviously. Whether that requires multi-universes remains to be seen.

It may yet be that the universe is virtual, in which case more universes are almost certainly attainable. What form such virtual universes take may be subjective, in which case true infinity may be unattainable, and impose an upper limit on the number of universes. In the final analysis there may be no universe at all, only subjective realities with no substance or definitive form.

My present stance is this: The universe is most probably an illusion. Reality, the indisputable fact that we are alive, is not.

[amor]

Thank you for that analysis, putting into words what I have been mulling over. I lean heavily with the mystics of old, that we are Mind, Consciousness, the creator and extrapolater of everything; and the outside is generated in the mind and is therefore really the inside of your mind. Big question! What is the outside? Are we in a computer of sorts? Perhaps we complete a circle. Perhaps other beings invented this computer of which we are an outgrowth and there is a REAL world OUTSIDE of the computer in which we exist and on and on...

[Louis Sullivan]

I believe it is almost universally excepted on this forum that although we may seem intelligent in relation to other human beings, in the cosmic sense much like our own lifespan, we are primitive. Merely a cosmic blink of the eye from the stone age, the middle ages. A nanosecond from slavery.

Taking that into account as well as the human awakening that this site is chronicling, we need to start thinking on a much grander scale. Clearly we have the ability to understand and interpret and create in our current existence. Think of the rapid acceleration of technology that has happened over the past 200 years. Our ability to create and process is at an all time high and our confidence as a species should be as well. Yet we are tethering ourselves with trying to find the "truth" in this existence. We chase leads and signs and go down rabbitholes and end up believing in Jewish conspiracies, reptilian shapeshifters and extraterrestrial supervision. Just like this existence may be a projection, or illusion, as mentioned above, so too are the aforementioned realities if they are currently happening during this, or any other, iteration of existence. So why busy ourselves with trying to solve these, or any other "truths", be it heaven, hell, ascension, reincarnation, what have you. We are primitive beings after all, can we really think that we, right now, having just started to unlock the entirety of our minds and consciousness in the cosmic sense, know what there is to know?

I agree with Ernie Nemeth. I know one thing and one thing only, I am a conscious being. I exist. Sure I can do this that or the other thing in this physical realm. Drive a car, write a book, become president, a serial killer what have you. So let me offer up one final thought I have had. Take it however you want because as I said previously, we are primitive, and I am just like you. That being clarified, maybe just maybe, we are thinking too small. That something else created this existence. Something we can't understand. Why not shift it to we will create this existence.

Not right now given our current state of technology, social coexistence, unison and intelligence. But somewhere far off down the road, if we can avoid ai oppression, a real encounter with a highly advanced non-peaceful alien civilization, or our own civilizations collapse, we can accomplish something, far beyond our own current comprehension. Imagine a peaceful civilization of 7 billion humans? All studying, thinking, questioning. Conducting experiments. Colonizing this universe. Projection or not it is "there" for us to explore.

So the task at hand is a mighty one. To stop all the wars and unite across the differences that exist across the entirety of this human existence to explore a common goal is enormous. A puzzle that seems near impossible to solve. Only beings worthy of being able to create something as magnificent as this universe/existence/consciousness, could solve a puzzle like the one that exists in our human existence as a species, right now. Only beings that could solve the puzzle of death could create something as magnificent as this. Start thinking bigger and grander my friends! It may be the only way to stop the madness...

[TraineeHuman]

Is there any sense in which existence -- all that there is -- is indivisible, or a oneness, in your experience, or in your opinion? Many have experienced this -- all the great mystics --, some of them constantly. Have you ever had an experience of such oneness, such indivisibility, and that experience was far more vividly or truly real-seeming than any other kind of experience? If you have, then what you experienced was, at the time, indivisible from you (along with everything and everyone else). If indivisible from you, it must have been the same as you, at the time. Call that "Self" or "Existence" or "Life" or "God" if you like.