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Hervé
3rd June 2017, 14:49
Watch, pay or go away: Google to enable publishers to charge users with ad blockers (https://www.rt.com/news/390683-google-anti-adblock-tools/)

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A new Google tool will let website publishers charge visitors using ad blockers for removing the ads, or force them to turn off their ad blockers and view the ads. The feature is said to be designed to help publishers who fear for their slumping ad revenue.

A new extension called “Funding Choices” provides the publisher with the tool to embed into their website. When a user with an ad blocker visits the site, he is prompted to either to make a payment to remove the ads on the site, or to disable the ad blocker and proceed. Choosing neither of the options means one cannot view the website.

The company is said to receive 10 percent of the fee, which will be set by a publisher individually.

The annoying ads like pop-up windows or auto-playing videos “can lead some people to block all ads—taking a big toll on the content creators, journalists, web developers and videographers who depend on ads to fund their content creation,” Google’s senior vice president for ads and commerce, Sridhar Ramaswamy, says. (https://blog.google/topics/journalism-news/building-better-web-everyone/)

He added that ad blockers have a negative impact on potential revenue across all of Google properties, particularly in Europe.




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What is Google's anti-adblocking fighting? Users of AdblockPlus, uBlock Origin, NoScript, Ghostery on Firefox. More on Safari, IE and Chrome

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1:32 PM - 2 Jun 2017 Publishers in North America, UK, Germany, Australia and New Zealand can download the new tool, with the feature becoming available for other countries later this year.

“Funding Choices allows us to have a conversation with visitors using ad blockers on how our business works, and provide them a choice to whitelist or contribute to our newsroom,” Ramaswamy said.

The internet search giant is also expected to introduce its own blocker next year, which will be switched on by default in the new version of Google Chrome. Despite the tool is said to block all “unacceptable” ads, it is described as a “filter” by default, i.e. selective in blocking the ads. Identified by the Coalition for Better Ads, “unacceptable” ads are the ones making the users avoid online adverts in the first place.

While reception on social media seemed to be largely positive, with publishers welcoming the new tools, some were less than impressed, questioning Google’s potential monopoly on ad blocking and the ethics of the corporation having a share in media and creative websites’ revenues.

Other reactions revealed some people would rather switch Chrome for another browser or boycott the anti-ad blocking sites altogether rather than watch the unwanted ads or pay for not having to watch them.




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This is a *crazy* amount of power Google is seizing over nearly all the funding that goes into our journalism and online content creation.


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Google & Facebook control one-fifth of global ad revenue (https://www.rt.com/business/386850-google-facebook-fifth-ad-revenue/)


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uzn
3rd June 2017, 14:54
Funny, because Google just announced they want to integrate an Add-Blocker in The Crome Browser.

Hervé
3rd June 2017, 15:05
Funny, because Google just announced they want to integrate an Add-Blocker in The Crome Browser.
Sure... another of their tricks:


The internet search giant is also expected to introduce its own blocker next year, which will be switched on by default in the new version of Google Chrome. Despite the tool is said to block all “unacceptable” ads, it is described as a “filter” by default, i.e. selective in blocking the ads. Identified by the Coalition for Better Ads, “unacceptable” ads are the ones making the users avoid online adverts in the first place.

ZShawn
3rd June 2017, 15:06
pay for everything..... lovely....unbridled consumerism/capitalism..... running off the rails.....
time to start reading books again yet people?
this computerized trend is not workable with consumerism/capitalism still alive and running

hint for google
people use ad blockers because they have no intention of buying anything and the ads are purely noise, annoying and unwanted..... pretty simple and blatantly obvious.... but the money addiction runs the show:facepalm:

robinr1
3rd June 2017, 15:15
are these books you speak of free? the socialism you are looking for doesn't work either. google Venezuela present time. nothing in life is free.





pay for everything..... lovely....unbridled consumerism/capitalism..... running off the rails.....
time to start reading books again yet people?
this computerized trend is not workable with consumerism/capitalism still alive and running

hint for google
people use ad blockers because they have no intention of buying anything and the ads are purely noise, annoying and unwanted..... pretty simple and blatantly obvious.... but the money addiction runs the show:facepalm:

uzn
3rd June 2017, 15:20
You can take a walk in the Park without paying

ZShawn
3rd June 2017, 15:27
You can take a walk in the Park without paying
well, if you have paid your taxes then you have paid for that...albeit a micropayment but there it is.....

Foxie Loxie
3rd June 2017, 15:28
We can?! :idea:

Rawhide68
3rd June 2017, 16:09
Firefox wiith Ghostery is what I use and its good.
Adblock offcourse, and Firefox has an app to simply download anything from Youtube wich is not possible with Chrome.

Hervé
3rd June 2017, 16:39
See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84971-Microsoft-intensifies-data-collection-on-Windows-7-and-8-systems&p=995164&viewfull=1#post995164) (<---) for an assessment on uBlock Origin (https://www.ublock.org/)

Check here for uBlock Origin as an add-on to Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

DeDukshyn
3rd June 2017, 16:40
Re: OP ...

LOL I guess it'll just be easier to choose which sites to visit or not ... If I ever run into those sites who try to make your life difficult because one is using Iron or Brave for browsers (or an adblocker), I just go somewhere else that doesn't do that. If enough people do this, they'll just get lower visits - thus lower revenue anyway.

What I think should be done is websites should have voluntary ad viewing. If I feel the website and content is good enough for them to make revenue off my visit, I might be willing to put up with a few ads, if I am given a choice right at the website itself.

Another thing: If there was proper standards for what is allowable for ads, maybe people wouldn't get so pissed off about them -- I am referring autoplay popup video adds, or the ones that play but you can't find the actual video anywhere - or sites with 10x more ads than content that take 340 seconds to load -- why isn't there regulations/enforcement around THIS?

ZShawn
4th June 2017, 00:24
are these books you speak of free? the socialism you are looking for doesn't work either. google Venezuela present time. nothing in life is free.





pay for everything..... lovely....unbridled consumerism/capitalism..... running off the rails.....
time to start reading books again yet people?
this computerized trend is not workable with consumerism/capitalism still alive and running

hint for google
people use ad blockers because they have no intention of buying anything and the ads are purely noise, annoying and unwanted..... pretty simple and blatantly obvious.... but the money addiction runs the show:facepalm:

no the books aren't free, but i don't pay every time i consult one and i don't have a record in several databases that I did consult this text or that....
and I am not looking for some socialist paradise either LOL
:waving:

TargeT
4th June 2017, 18:17
So, content creators make money off add views, does blocking adds cost the content creator money?

Rawhide68
4th June 2017, 21:05
Couls Steemit be an alternative to Youtube ?
https://steemit.com/steemit/@jerrybanfield/steem-video-ad-1-on-facebook-and-youtube-featuring-10-reasons-for-usd10-steem-in-10-months