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bbow73
6th June 2017, 06:33
I understand that in this great big infinite multiverse of infinitely concentric infinite multiverses that there are other civilizations 100 years ahead of us, 1,000 years ahead, and a million, and a bagillionzillion and xxxillion. I don't find this scary, I find it disappointing that we have been needlessly held back from our potential.

I don't believe that secrecy has been to preserve social order. There are many kinds of soft disclosures to reveal hard truths to the public with a hand on damage control (ex, increments over time with different pieces released through obscure channels). (hopefully that's already well under way)

I also don't believe that we are being spared the anxiety of the unfathomable horrors that only the 'elite' are strong enough to burden. I think that it is more likely that small cowards addicted to power (a pleasure with diminishing returns) prefer to maintain the status quo for as long as they can.

I believe that if our world knew the truth about our place in a larger, wondrous and dangerous community, and if we had access to all shelved/suppressed technology and knowledge that our species could do much more than a private think tank for Solar Warden or a Dark Fleet. I believe that the world is filled with people with unique approaches to odd problems. I believe that one of the greatest traits of the human race is the ability to synthesize new and non-intuitive solutions from our unique individuals, individuals of distantly unrelated areas of speciality, collaborating as one. I believe that when there is a critical mass of wildly different individuals interacting that amazing things are brought to fruition.

And sadly, I believe that we could be producing untold wonders if we had the raw materials of the shelved/suppressed tech & knowledge that have been kept from us.

And if there really is some cosmic hand ready to reset the Earth if we build our tower of Babel too high... I believe we could build a better tower, maybe one that knocks down hands that like to knock down towers.

Baby Steps
6th June 2017, 08:01
That's what we are here for.

However every advance is a double edged sword- can be used for good or bad. Each time we bring forth new technology - the universe is asking 'can they handle it?'

As we as a collective consciousness progress in wisdom, hopefully we develop an ethos - of focussing on the benign aspects of technology. It is two steps forward and one step back.

Our dark fellow-travellers are always there, working tirelessly to accentuate the dark side of progress. The ultimate destination of their approach - which hardly any of them recognise - is destruction of the human race. One does not need to judge those dark ones- they are expressing themselves as they choose, on their own sacred journey back to one-ness.

One does not need to judge those who, so far, lack the discernment to perceive the game that is being played. That is part of their awakening journey.

Awakening includes the realisation that we have all the tools and knowledge NOW to manifest a global Eden. Key to that is mass recognition of the dangers of certain destructive technology. So for me, it is vital for the light side to be able to peer into the dark, see the machinations, horrors, and dangers. Not hide from these truths.

God bless

NeedleThreader
6th June 2017, 16:49
Thank you for posting these thoughts. I am a utopian pragmatist as well and believe that we are here as 'system busters' to knock it down the current structure. If we all poke a hole in it, eventually all those holes will add up.

Looking at it in a disclosure, non-disclosure of ETs and free energy is a limiting mindset. We don't need anything more than what we have to achieve peace on earth. In fact, the open and full disclosure of an ET presence would cause a certain kind of crazy I don't think the world is ready for en masse. Carol Rosin believes that this will be the 'final card' of orchestrating a major conspiracy of an ET threat towards humanity and will start a one world government.

I believe that it is still possible to turn things around. It is a heavy thing to acknowledge that the 'dark travelers' are here to stimulate the need for light/reform/social & justice. Without these problems it would be more difficult to be encourage the light workers to activate and use their magic. Praying for the 100th monkey effect or spontaneous mass enlightenment is a lazy and ineffective way to look at things.

The only way out is through. I think a lot of people are having a super difficult time with the current state of affairs, especially those that are sensitive to the intense energy and feeling of hopelessness. Technology is not helping the situation, it is not advancing us it is de-evolving us. If we are to merge with is as a species, I can only imagine what horrors lie ahead.

Baby Steps
6th June 2017, 17:25
I do not think disclosure should be viewed as any kind of 'great leap forward' RIGHT NOW

We have a parasitic establishment who are adept at:

- Controlling the narrative via propaganda etc
- Manipulating mass perception including using covert electronic tech
- Convincing us that an apple is an orange
- Hiding their evil machinations from most.

MOST PEOPLE believe large tracts of total BS on a variety of subjects, for example 9/11.

What would disclosure look like if the parasites were still in control?

- It would not be beneficial or enlightening for us
- It would likely be wholly or partly deceptive
- It would not empower the individual, stabilise our geopolitics or ecology
- It could - possibly - usher in fake or real contact with deceptive entities.

So, as I say, I am not hoping for disclosure right now. The disclosure we are beginning to see fits a deceptive agenda.

Enlightened beings could make contact, but their spiritual ethics and principals would likely include rules that prevented them from coming to help us - with our current challenges- that we chose to come and experience for ourselves. If that is right, then all we have to do is start building the Eden society, and our Galactic Friends will drop in.

bbow73
6th June 2017, 21:57
let me clarify, I believe that disclosure is more than a global or peace on Earth issue.
Disclosure is more than single technologies that could help or harm or acknowledging a private relationship with alien races.
Disclosure will result in a compound macro evolution, there won't be any part of the human experience that will go unaffected. A hobbled humanity (doing the best it can with only a couple pieces of the puzzle) will have a vastly different relationship to the larger community than a humanity allowed to reach it's full potential having all resources otherwise denied.

A new technology that could be exploited by cruel people may not end up being used in the way some would fear... like say, if the violent community had a paradigm shift that accompanied having all of their basic needs met for them and their children as well as new relationships from beyond our world. It would be a new context for our old problems.

Disclosure would greatly diminish the power of secret societies. The internet is a type 1 communication system for free speech, virtual assembly & the formation of an Anon militia that the Rothschilds probably wished they'd stopped before it was too late. With disclosure there would a similar changes to every part of our civilization. Everything centralized to a few could be decentralized to all.

Imagine a mechanic in Bolivia, a doctor in Laos, an artist in Ghana... as it is they could already work together and produce mad innovations. Think about what they could do with scalar wave technology, dematerialization, telepathic conferencing with Zeta Reticulums. Think about what they could do if they didn't have to spend blood, sweat and years putting food on the table and paying the rent. We shouldn't have to imagine, this should have been our reality decades ago.

I don't mind judging someone on their path if their path is paving over millions of innocents for generations. I reject fatalism, I think it is a failure of compassion. If I have a path then it is to confront bullies that block other people's paths. Maybe all the Rothschilds (or whatever illegitimate authority) had broken metaphorical femurs that never healed right, if that's the case then rebreaking them so that they can be set and heal properly is a good thing. Nothing would make me happier than to break some Rothschilds.

NeedleThreader
7th June 2017, 22:06
Yeah, I think a lot of people get frustrated that 'we aren't there yet', 'we should have had this tech decades ago'.

Do we really need the tech for utopia?

For all this tech that people are talking about, we are really going to need to rev up those production factories right?

Spiral
7th June 2017, 22:49
bbow, I would like to recommend a book for you, (I would recommend this to anyone I thought bright enough to grasp it ), it might seem odd but it's one of the best books ever written by one of the brightest minds ever to visit these shores( I don't mean the UK lol), and that is "The Space Trilogy" by CS Lewis.

It's one of those rare books that transform who & what you are, if you are up to the challenge..

bbow73
8th June 2017, 02:39
bbow, I would like to recommend a book for you, (I would recommend this to anyone I thought bright enough to grasp it ), it might seem odd but it's one of the best books ever written by one of the brightest minds ever to visit these shores( I don't mean the UK lol), and that is "The Space Trilogy" by CS Lewis.

It's one of those rare books that transform who & what you are, if you are up to the challenge..

interesting, I've never heard of Lewis writing sci-fi. I'll check it out.

Spiral
8th June 2017, 09:13
bbow, I would like to recommend a book for you, (I would recommend this to anyone I thought bright enough to grasp it ), it might seem odd but it's one of the best books ever written by one of the brightest minds ever to visit these shores( I don't mean the UK lol), and that is "The Space Trilogy" by CS Lewis.

It's one of those rare books that transform who & what you are, if you are up to the challenge..

interesting, I've never heard of Lewis writing sci-fi. I'll check it out.

It's not really sci-fi, he just uses it as a medium to say things about people (using the word loosely) & the world we find ourselves in that would have been impossible as a non-fiction book, not an easy book to read though, there is some mind bending philosophy & theology played out by the main characters.

It's can be found fairly cheaply second hand btw.

Baby Steps
29th June 2017, 15:57
one thing for sure is that there is a drip feed on info - soft disclosure, including for the kids. It is very prevalent in the kid's stuff I see from time to time.

Why drip-feed rather than just admitting all of it? I think your hopes that disclosure would have positive effects are justified if the info pours out, and the masses shout 'why have they lied to us?', there is fury and dissonance, and this could serve to dislodge some of the tyranny we live under. The drip, drip pattern is an attempt to avoid this, in other words RETAIN the mental controls over people while normalising the concept of alien visitors.

As I say, videos aimed at the young, such as 'Paw Patrol' for the 4-7 age group really is normalising this issue for those kids. The intended result would be that if one day, my son experiences some kind of alien phenomenon, it will not cause him to question the fundamentals of his reality in the same way that, say, my Mother would.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24pUza9O8Bw


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