70 Years into the "modern" UFO era

[Slant84]

I can distinctly remember when I first started reading about and studying UFOs in the early 80s. It was a fun time. FOIA had released many documents and researchers were giddy about what was coming. Disclosure was discussed as though it was a matter of getting the right document, and many thought that to be soon. Then Reagan made FOIA a nightmare for researchers as he slammed the lid.
This was at the time everyone that were believers thought that UFOs were interplanetary nuts and bolts craft. And they very well may be. But the cases kept mounting up of such "high strangeness" that this theory was put to the test. Interdimensional? Time travelers? Breakaway civilizations? Terrians? You could go on and on.
My point being that 70 years later, we have more questions than answers. You can thank your local three letter agency for all the disinformation. In this day and age, it's hard to go with any one idea or trust any one single person. There are a few I've mentioned before including our own Bill Ryan, Richard Dolan, and others whose word I believe as they give it.
Wow, I wish I could have been around in the 50s. The "Golden Age" of Ufology. The skies were littered with "flying saucers" seemingly daily. I'm sure the meat of what the gvt knows and aquired was during this period.
It's been quite the ride, this obsession of mine. I'm 42, almost 43, and before I go I would like atleast a hint of the answer. Sure, everyone claims to know this or that, including myself. I have my own beliefs and I'm definitely a strong believer and witness.
70 years. So much information and disinformation. It's like trying to find a small diamond in a pile of manure lol! I just hope that one day, someone smarter than me will give us a great verifiable lead. I know it's out there. Find it and off to the races.
Then, we'll just have more questions. But the bubble has to burst soon. There are too many of us, and soon the wave will break.
Then maybe, just maybe, we'll get a peek of the puzzle 😉

[Spiral]

The best two books on the phenomena IMHO are;

The Invisible Collage by Jacques Vallee

The Eight Tower by John Keel


If they don't blow your mind nothing will !


:tea:

[sijohn]

Big thanks to you spiral for the suggested books , I have just googled the two books and found free pdf downloads.

It is amazing the specialist books you can find for free down load

Sijohn

[wnlight]

Well, 70 years ago I was 4 years old living in Saint Louis. My introduction to UFOs was in 1952 (age 9) when Dad put a circular part of an old washing machine out in the yard and called my attention to it as a UFO! That didn't phase me. I knew washing machines. :-) That was the year of the UFO Washington DC fly-by. But the Army told us not to worry. Later in the 50s in very small town, Illinois, pop. 300, I would trade scary UFO stories and ghost stories with friends around the campfire or on the church steps at night. I read Donald Keyhoe's book when I was 10. Too bad I didn't know how to use dowsing back then. Mom did some water witching in those years but we had no idea just how powerful dowsing was. The TV 'news' would feature UFO sightings as weird stories. But then so was water witching. My mother described a cigar-shaped UFD in the Ozarks in 1953. Later, after we married, my wife told me that she saw one in the late 1950s. So I became a reluctant believer.

Back in the 1950s there was really very little to go on to study UFOs - at least so in Middle America. There was a dearth of UFO info then. There was much more available in those years on the (then covert) topics of mental telepathy and hypnosis - which I soaked up when I was 13.

The Roswell UFO museum opened in 1992. I was soon a great collection of UFO information for research. I have a photo of our dog standing in the 'autopsy room' mural. We visited the museum and the Trinity site in the same year.

[Atlas]

My mother described a cigar-shaped UFD in the Ozarks in 1953.
From nicap.org/1953fullrep (http://www.nicap.org/chronos/1953fullrep.htm):

1953; Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri: a shiny, disc-shaped thing [...]
April 1953; Laredo, Texas: "solid brown" circling cigar-shaped object [...]
July 1953; Oak Ridge, Tenn.: it appeared at times to be in the shape of a cigar [...]

See my post: November 22, 1953: "Operation UFO: The Official Truth about Flying Saucers" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41031-the-Kinross-UFO-Incident&p=1158412&viewfull=1#post1158412)

[Spiral]

Big thanks to you spiral for the suggested books , I have just googled the two books and found free pdf downloads.

It is amazing the specialist books you can find for free down load

Sijohn

Could you post links for the PDFs if its not a dodgy torrent site that is (don't want to compromise the forum) for other readers & members ? PS the books aren't that expensive.

What is so special about those two books is that they are the pinnacle of two very talented individuals whose work goes way beyond the kind of cataloging of cases others have done.

John Keel was an on the ground reporter of events who quickly noticed that the ufo book people were "cherry picking" cases to make the case that its "extraterrestrials" when he was finding that things were far, far stranger on the ground....and even had his own run ins with high strangeness.

Jacques Vallee is a scientist who goes after the "meta data" (the big picture) who sifts through individual cases (including Fatima & Uri Geller)& looks at why Project Blue Book was dropped..really mind expanding material.





Note from Bill: check out The Avalon Library. (http://avalonlibrary.net)

[Noelle]

I have had two sightings: one in my early teens (late 1970s maybe) while camping with my family on Salisbury Beach, Mass. and then the famous Hudson Valley sighting (1983 or 1984), which I believe may have been debunked. Although always very interested, it took me 30 years to really dig into the evidence, and I'm still so far behind many of you on Avalon.

[ghostrider]

I had a UFO follow me for 45 minutes ( my drive home from work) in 1996 1130 pm... it would glow huge then small, then huge and small back and forth completely silent... Shortly after I had a surgery, being home for two weeks, I browsed the very limited internet, learning all I could about the mystery of UFOs... It wasn't until I visited theyfly.com it all mad sense, connected so many dots ... A family lineage tied to our ancestors going back 22 million years, one group , splintered into two, one trying to help, one trying to get rid of us... The ba ones have no idea they are related to the good guys ... Their leaders do what ours do, cover the planet with disinformation and keep the culture of war and control alive ...

[Dylansdad]

I remember a very hot humid night in July 1967 when I was 15, living in a small town in Wisconsin with nothing to do. I was sitting in my room and inexplicably began drawing disk shapes. There was something very satisfying about doing this. Then I had a sudden urgency to go into the backyard around 9:00 p.m. I went into the backyard where the lack of street lights made it easy to see many stars. I located the Big Dipper over the neighbor's house, so to speak. Suddenly, I realized that there was an extra bright star in the handle of the Big Dipper. Then it turned bright red and began getting larger and larger. I realized that the light was not actually growing, but that the light was coming directly towards me! As I watched a red disk with deeper swirling red lights around the middle floated soundlessly over the roof of our house. It stopped there soundlessly, allowing me to see it. The length of the disk was longer than the house. I watched it for awhile and then it casually just floated away out of my sight.

Strangely, when I went in the house afterwards, I felt very guilty and unclean. My folks were watching a variety show on TV (they were still big in the 60's). I felt like I had done something dirty that I must keep a secret. As for missing time? No, I don't think so, but I suspect that a lot more went on than what I consciously knew.

Afterward, I began remembering similar situations AND abduction type interactions going back into my childhood. These interactions only stopped in the mid 1990's.

I do not expect to find an explanation for all this in my lifetime, and I am fine with that. Or perhaps I should say that I am resigned to that since ufology is a carnival show of many acts. People will sell you an explanation and this satisfies many people (an example is Corey Goode and his silly bird people from space). But I could never just accept an explanation off-the-shelf. I would rather just let it remain a mystery rather than buy into some human made story line.

[EFO]

I can distinctly remember when I first started reading about and studying UFOs in the early 80s. It was a fun time. FOIA had released many documents and researchers were giddy about what was coming. Disclosure was discussed as though it was a matter of getting the right document, and many thought that to be soon. Then Reagan made FOIA a nightmare for researchers as he slammed the lid.
This was at the time everyone that were believers thought that UFOs were interplanetary nuts and bolts craft. And they very well may be. But the cases kept mounting up of such "high strangeness" that this theory was put to the test. Interdimensional? Time travelers? Breakaway civilizations? Terrians? You could go on and on.
My point being that 70 years later, we have more questions than answers. You can thank your local three letter agency for all the disinformation. In this day and age, it's hard to go with any one idea or trust any one single person. There are a few I've mentioned before including our own Bill Ryan, Richard Dolan, and others whose word I believe as they give it.
Wow, I wish I could have been around in the 50s. The "Golden Age" of Ufology. The skies were littered with "flying saucers" seemingly daily. I'm sure the meat of what the gvt knows and aquired was during this period.
It's been quite the ride, this obsession of mine. I'm 42, almost 43, and before I go I would like atleast a hint of the answer. Sure, everyone claims to know this or that, including myself. I have my own beliefs and I'm definitely a strong believer and witness.
70 years. So much information and disinformation. It's like trying to find a small diamond in a pile of manure lol! I just hope that one day, someone smarter than me will give us a great verifiable lead. I know it's out there. Find it and off to the races.
Then, we'll just have more questions. But the bubble has to burst soon. There are too many of us, and soon the wave will break.
Then maybe, just maybe, we'll get a peek of the puzzle 😉

Very interesting review!


Sure, everyone claims to know this or that, including myself. I have my own beliefs and I'm definitely a strong believer and witness.

Yes,because everyone's experience is different.


I don't know which if the stories should I add it here:
1-the white "accolade" craft;
2-the multiple colored vertical triangle;
3-the orange disc from my garage;
4-the red "splitting" craft;
5-the metallic bright trapezoidal craft;
6-the bright yellow "three spikes" craft;
7-the fainted purple craft;
8-the static orange orb from the hill
and so on... because they are so many up there.

[Atlas]

[...] in July 1967 when I was 15, living in a small town in Wisconsin [...]
August 1967, Sturgeon Bay (http://www.ufo-hunters.com/sightings/search/514399f70ad2e1e9be44cfdb/UFO%20Sighting%20in%20%20Sturgeon%20Bay,%20WI%20on%20Tuesday%2001%20August%201967): It was an evening, on the way home from watching a movie [...] I raced home to tell my parants. I 15 years old. I had tears in my eyes as I told them. I remember hearing of alot of sightings in Wisc back then. I never went public with this information at the time fearing ridicule etc.

August 1967, Ogema (http://ufowisconsin.com/county/reports/r1967_0812_price.html): Mr. and Mrs. Miedtke saw a large hemispherical object with a fluorescent glow and a short flash of light. Too terrified to go outside, they heard heavy footsteps around their trailer.


July 1967, Marshfield (http://www.ufo-hunters.com/sightings/search/51439b120ad2e1e9be451293/UFO%20Sighting%20in%20%20Marshfield,%20WI%20on%20Saturday%2015%20July%201967): When I was a kid [...] right over my parent’s house and it seemed to stay at the same altitude throughout the entire time we observed it. [...] the object passed over my house and in front of the full moon.

June 1967, Vance Creek (http://ufowisconsin.com/county/reports/r1967_06xx_barron.html): It was too maneuverable for an airplane, too quiet for a helicopter and too remote for some secret Air Force Project. I was and still am convinced we witnessed something from the beyond that night.

[EFO]

I have had two sightings: one in my early teens (late 1970s maybe) while camping with my family on Salisbury Beach, Mass. and then the famous Hudson Valley sighting (1983 or 1984), which I believe may have been debunked. Although always very interested, it took me 30 years to really dig into the evidence, and I'm still so far behind many of you on Avalon.

Don't consider that you are behind of any of us.Consider how far I am behind you having no,at least conscious, OBE.
It is not a race.

I consider that everyone has its own more or less experience due to its "liaisons"/connection/place/purpose you name it,would be and is the best way of learning from each other and share/spread the information from humans point of understanding in this moment of time.

70 years ago they were named ufo,now they are ships,crafts,motherships,probes,spheres,orbs and so on.We have remote viewing,OBE,NDE,vivid and lucid dreams,star/indigo children,plasma entities,rods,encounters with different civilizations,channeling and so on.
These are our steps made with sacrifices by others for us to be able today to speak here on Avalon without fear to be ridiculed.

[Foxie Loxie]

I DO enjoy hearing everyone's experiences as I've never had any! :highfive: It was "Chariots of the Gods" that got me thinking along this line & I'm sure many others can point back to that as well. :ufo:

[Dylansdad]

[...] in July 1967 when I was 15, living in a small town in Wisconsin [...]
August 1967, Sturgeon Bay (http://www.ufo-hunters.com/sightings/search/514399f70ad2e1e9be44cfdb/UFO%20Sighting%20in%20%20Sturgeon%20Bay,%20WI%20on%20Tuesday%2001%20August%201967): It was an evening, on the way home from watching a movie [...] I raced home to tell my parants. I 15 years old. I had tears in my eyes as I told them. I remember hearing of alot of sightings in Wisc back then. I never went public with this information at the time fearing ridicule etc.

August 1967, Ogema (http://ufowisconsin.com/county/reports/r1967_0812_price.html): Mr. and Mrs. Miedtke saw a large hemispherical object with a fluorescent glow and a short flash of light. Too terrified to go outside, they heard heavy footsteps around their trailer.


July 1967, Marshfield (http://www.ufo-hunters.com/sightings/search/51439b120ad2e1e9be451293/UFO%20Sighting%20in%20%20Marshfield,%20WI%20on%20Saturday%2015%20July%201967): When I was a kid [...] right over my parent’s house and it seemed to stay at the same altitude throughout the entire time we observed it. [...] the object passed over my house and in front of the full moon.

June 1967, Vance Creek (http://ufowisconsin.com/county/reports/r1967_06xx_barron.html): It was too maneuverable for an airplane, too quiet for a helicopter and too remote for some secret Air Force Project. I was and still am convinced we witnessed something from the beyond that night.

OMG! I don't know where you found these items, but WE LIVED RIGHT OUTSIDE MARSHFIELD WISCONSIN. Evidently, "aliens" like rural farming communities, cranberry bogs and smelly paper factories.

[CaptnNemo]

2 years ago, summer time, sitting at a fire in my yard. I am pretty familiar with where the stars are at certain times in the evening. That evening, my eye caught the attention of 3 bright "stars" in a triangle formation. They were not moving. But when I was looking at them I remember telling myself inside my head that something didn't look right while I was looking at them. 15 seconds later while staring at them, 2 of them just blinked out. Disappeared completely just like if you turned off lights.

I was like wtf is that!?? :D Then I followed the sky and that 3rd star which now I know was a real one. But the 2 others did not reappear at all. The other real star moved along with the sky. It was a clear night, no clouds.

I've read a few reports since then about sightings around my area.

Anywho!! It was a fun experience even though it lasted 15 seconds lolll!!

[Bruno]

It was August for sure, I think 1996. I know it was August because I was outside at dusk on a clear night to watch the meteor shower that is visible in my part of the world in August. (Southern Ontario)

Anyway, it wasn't yet dark when I saw what I thought at first was a meteor, an orange like flash, but instead of a short streak the orange glow started coming closer. It looked like a ball of fire, it came from high up in the atmosphere to tree height, at which point I remember wanting to run but I felt frozen, I still believed it was a large meteor, but I changed my mind when the fire ball seemed to change direction and swoop down into my yard. It held its position in my yard for only a second before changing direction again and flying in between my house and my neighbours. For that brief moment it was in my yard it appeared to be about twenty feet away and maybe 10 feet above my head. It didn't appear to be very big. At most a couple feet in diameter.

World's tiniest ufo?
A drone of some sort?

Anyone else on here ever seen this type of ufo? Just curious.