A question about dreaming

[Scorpio Girl]

Hopefully I'm starting a new thread in regards to being in the dream state. I've only had this happen to me twice. In the first dream I saw a kind of severe looking grey being near the door who wouldn't let me pass out of the bedroom I was sleeping in at the time. At the time the feeling was like a massive barrier that slammed down and I was obviously out for the count after that. It was one of those dreams that one doesn't forget as I generally don't have dreams of an exterrestial nature. The second dream I had 3 or 4 years ago now was of my childhood home and walking down the passage way and coming to the dining room door and going to put my hand around inside the dining room to turn on the light which was just inside the door on the left hand side. The area in front of me was totally pitch black but as I was about to put my hand out another one of those barriers just slammed down, enough to frighten the bjesus out of me and I woke up just as I was hopping back into my body. This second dream was enough for me to go and write it down and try and analyse what that was all about I don't know. Has anyone else experienced these kinds of barriers. There is one more type of dream disturbance I will leave for another thread in the future.

[ghostrider]

I have walked between worlds, by accident ... it took eight years of hard work to have an OBE , after dreaming strange lucid deams not knowing what was going on ... the forum here really helped guide me and gave me a greater understanding of the phenomenon ... there are some highly evolved people here that can help ... I'm just a small fish in a big ocean of very capable people here... dreams are difficult, many variables, take your time, answers may come in pieces, months apart... ask around, you will find what you're looking for...

[Noelle]

I have had OBEs for many years. I subscribe to the school of thought that dreams and lucid dreams are out of body experiences. What makes them different than the traditional OBE is the degree of consciousness. With dreams, we are not conscious that we our out of our bodies; with lucid dreams, we have a measure of awareness; then, of course, with the OBE, we know we are out of our bodies. As you noted in your second experience, you remember "hopping" back into your body -- a good indication that your were out of your body.

The barriers may be your own fears, perhaps of the dark, or related to something in your belief system. Sometimes while out of body, I have trouble passing through walls and doors due to allowing my 3D world belief system to come into the experience with me. In other words, I just forget that I can pass through these material structures while out of body. If I believe I can't pass through them, then it's hard to pass through them.

[RMF808]

A book by the name of Seth Speaks really helped me focus on my dreams, analyze them and even have my first lucid dream. If you are interested in reading it I found a link where it is archived and you don't even need to sign up for anything.

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-56rRUG-ov0xn05ih/Jane%20Roberts%20-%20Seth%20Speaks_djvu.txt

We have so many factors that influence our dream states it is hard to assess your situation with such little info but just asking your question is the beginning of your journey of understanding. Remember that even a journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single footstep.

[The Moss Trooper]

The main principle of what dreams truly are and why they are so universal:

Inside your dream you don't realize that you created everybody there. You are clueless to the fact that you are the creator of that world. You are basically deceiving yourself and you aren't aware that you're tricking yourself, that is a lot of power, which is inside of every person. In the dreams where you start the dream as an adult, the reason you don't realize that you are the creator of that dream is that you came along long after the billions of years of history in the dream. No one inside the dream, including yourself, thinks that you can be the creator because you came along long after the dreams history according to the present time of the dream. And also, if you think about it, you created your own self inside that dream. Which means, as an adult when you entered the dream, you created your own birth which occurred in the dream years ago, the same birth from which you are now an adult.

So the conclusion would be that no dream begins unless the dreamer first creates his own past birth, in the present moment as an adult.

That is the big bang moment of each dream.

[triquetra]

Alternatively, the dream at its most useful and least benign serves as the 3D brain's way of translating experiences from different realms in terms that make sense to this one. Imposed barriers might serve as a metaphor for a soul seeking access to realms beyond the lower astral and being blocked by an entity or entities that do not wish this.

After gaining practice in lucid dreaming or OOBE another worthy pursuit is achieving guaranteed dreaming, which over time can assist to have the brain continuously adapt experiences back to 3D symbolism so that patterns emerge and you can really make sense of what the symbolism may be trying to represent.

For example, a recurring, similar theme of attempting difficult acrobatic sequences thwarted by attempts of sabotage, not of the acrobatic moves themselves but of the structures that are required to complete the moves.

Individual dream interpretation is one thing, and benign dreams do certainly occur, but recurring dreams or more importantly dream sequences which develop over the course of many related individual dreams can be an important source of abstract guidance if the dreamer empowers themselves to solve their puzzles.

[GaelVictor]

After an out of body experience during sleep, the etherical body must re-enter the physical one. This is somewhat traumatic. When you do it consciously, there is a (strong) falling sensation and you see a brown cloud tunnel as you fall through it back into the body.
When you do it unconsciously, your dreamstate will translate the facts described above, into a storyline.. this storyline can be quite shocking and realistic.

Usually when you get older, more experienced and initiated, the barriers will be hardly noticeable anymore.

[Bruno]

The main principle of what dreams truly are and why they are so universal:

Inside your dream you don't realize that you created everybody there. You are clueless to the fact that you are the creator of that world. You are basically deceiving yourself and you aren't aware that you're tricking yourself, that is a lot of power, which is inside of every person. In the dreams where you start the dream as an adult, the reason you don't realize that you are the creator of that dream is that you came along long after the billions of years of history in the dream. No one inside the dream, including yourself, thinks that you can be the creator because you came along long after the dreams history according to the present time of the dream. And also, if you think about it, you created your own self inside that dream. Which means, as an adult when you entered the dream, you created your own birth which occurred in the dream years ago, the same birth from which you are now an adult.

So the conclusion would be that no dream begins unless the dreamer first creates his own past birth, in the present moment as an adult.

That is the big bang moment of each dream.

love this description! :clapping::highfive:

[Scorpio Girl]

Thank you for your responses everybody, keep them coming as it is great with peoples interpretations of what it could be. As they say 'I'll sleep on it' as it is late Friday night here. Goodnight all.

[pyrangello]

About 2 months ago, I was sitting in a book store and my former girlfriend who just passed away back in november was walking outside of the book store, we saw each other thru the window and she came back in and landed one big kiss on me and never said a word. Funny thing though I felt and knew everything she was thinking when she did that . She had some trouble with her health and some with drinking which is why we broke up but it was like she finally knew exactly how I had felt about her with no smoke screen and what I did try and do for her and us. And everything was ok now and she was ok too. The appreciation and love was overwhelming that I felt . And when I woke up in the morning oh what a feeling that was................... and I knew it wasn't a dream at all. :)

[Baby Steps]

I never had a barrier, but plenty of times memory cuts out just as it is getting interesting- like there is only so much of the dream that I am permitted to consciously know right now.

The barrier makes me think that something knows you are lucid and wishes to limit your experience.

I think of dreams as a bit like shamanic alternative reality - realms of the imagination that can act as doorways to all kinds of other things. Perhaps wandering through your childhood home, you were about to meet somebody...

[Lifebringer]

Antarctic? Wow, how's the sunrises there? I would love to see some more of those sunsetsand rises besides the neuameyer or whatever it's name is. They have an observatory there on Queen's Island. Have you noticed any other planets popping in and out of view? I wish I could remember the antarctic observatory time when they catch the planets popping in and out of view and the suns rising and casting red light from "Red Kachina.
I even went to the avcam.faa.gov site yet couldn't get very far on where a skycam might be at because everyone's so unfamiliar with this continent's areas.

[Lifebringer]

My father-in-law just past end of last month, and the same night my husband brought the ashes(I was sleep when he came home with them and didn't know he was in an urn on the mantle, yet) I dreamt he and I were talking and he said: "See, I'm okay. Look! Even my knee doesn't hurt anymore and he did a little dance without his cane he used to use(he gave up on the meds and food and eventually the soul/ghost. He said he was tired of living like that and then like most Hebrews resigned himself to go home witholding from nutrition, fluids, and medicines that only prolong the misery of NOT being able to get around or out of bed.
I was glad we had that talk. I was only remembering his pain before his decision to let go and go home. I OBE sometimes when I focus after or during the sabbath. When my husbands back isn't hurting, he does too.

[Scorpio Girl]

Continuing on my theme of dreaming, the 2 other parts of the dream state that I need clarifying are 2 different times when I was asleep but I can't quite remember what the dreams were about. I could feel someone or something rub their hand whatever down the side of my body, I did see someone not sure if it was human or alien coming towards me in a dream and they were coming from the side not face on. I could feel myself totally tense up and my whole body was rigid with fear, I let out a scream but it was in the dream state and I know it would have just sounded like a low moan as I would have woken my husband up. I woke myself up in terror, I thought for a minute that it might be my husband but he was on his side facing the other way totally curled up and snoring away. It took me awhile to get back to normality and sleep. But the feel was real just like when you are awake. I asked my husband whether he was the culprit but got a definite no as he sleeps like the dead bless him.

The other experience was no dream to speak of but something was being forced into my ear and I could feel the jamming, blocking and the pain which obviously woke me up straight away. Went back to sleep. To me it feels like something or somebody is interfering into my sleep space. Luckily I haven't had anything of this nature happen for awhile, long may it continue. I would love to hear feedback from anybody that has had any of these experiences whilst asleep.

[Spiral]

Continuing on my theme of dreaming, the 2 other parts of the dream state that I need clarifying are 2 different times when I was asleep but I can't quite remember what the dreams were about. I could feel someone or something rub their hand whatever down the side of my body, I did see someone not sure if it was human or alien coming towards me in a dream and they were coming from the side not face on. I could feel myself totally tense up and my whole body was rigid with fear, I let out a scream but it was in the dream state and I know it would have just sounded like a low moan as I would have woken my husband up. I woke myself up in terror, I thought for a minute that it might be my husband but he was on his side facing the other way totally curled up and snoring away. It took me awhile to get back to normality and sleep. But the feel was real just like when you are awake. I asked my husband whether he was the culprit but got a definite no as he sleeps like the dead bless him.

The other experience was no dream to speak of but something was being forced into my ear and I could feel the jamming, blocking and the pain which obviously woke me up straight away. Went back to sleep. To me it feels like something or somebody is interfering into my sleep space. Luckily I haven't had anything of this nature happen for awhile, long may it continue. I would love to hear feedback from anybody that has had any of these experiences whilst asleep.

From what you have written on parts 1 & 2 I think you are mixing a bunch of related things together that probably need teasing apart to dig deeper.

Three or four different things could to be at play;

1/ Dreams.... this is the mind going / working through the emotional content of the day or any long term undealt with issues (I'm simplifying here)

2/ Astral.....actual real things that happen in said realm between yourself & other people & beings there (again a simplification)

3/ "Alien abduction" ....you mentioned a "gray" ... a whole field in it's self, but the abduction phenomena does come with a LOT of other phenomena & likes to obfuscate what's really going on.

4/ Spirit Attachment / Some etheric "being" .... this is also a possibility .... a decent psychic might be able to help, so might "cleansing" the house with a ritual such as "smudging", burning sulphur or calling in a priest / minister who can do that sort of thing.

Learning how to clear your space & do a circle of protection around it before sleeping will most likely help too.

[triquetra]

The other experience was no dream to speak of but something was being forced into my ear and I could feel the jamming, blocking and the pain which obviously woke me up straight away.

That would most likely be an implant, the base of the inner ear/nose/throat cavity is a popular location. You may have begun experiencing tinnitus after.