How long the Kumbaya?

[Helene West]

I was surfing and came across some interesting, honest dialogue regarding modern day race relations.

The link below is an interview featuring two very young, very pretty, very intelligent girls, one white, one black.

The white girl's channel on youtube is called 'The Roaming Millennial' which features various social issues including race.

The black girl's channel is called 'My Name is Josephine' which deals almost exclusively with race and pc issues.

Josephine was the guest. She started making anti-pc vids when she was made aware that there is a genre going on facebook and craigslist of blacks guilting whites for money. She was blown away because some blacks are getting so successful with the white guilt tripping that they are not only getting money from whites but also getting various kinds of products and services as well!
Josephine was also blown away in taking a course at the U of Toronto where whites were told they weren't allowed to speak and the mind-controlled whites went along with it..

(On craigslist the race hustling forum is called 'reparations.me')

If I felt we're dealing with a minority of individuals with private idiosyncracies like couples who want an S&M relationship, hey, that would be cool with me. But as we see on a daily basis the left is not only vicious and violent but I believe out to destroy freedoms contained in the bill of rights. Some congressman, hakeem something, I think it was yesterday went on a rant proclaiming everyone who voted for trump is a racist. Of course he left out who did racists of color vote for?? Time Magazine had a front cover of an infant white baby and asked if the baby was racist perpetuating the belief of inherent evil of white people which of course means if someone or something is inherently bad you can do anything to them. So white hatred is supported by, if not being sourced by, extremely powerful entities let alone blacks and other races being encouraged to nurture the worst of human characteristics.

Unless I missed it I didn't see anything on avalon's forum about Evergreen College. A racial incident that closed the college down for 5 days. I would think that's BIG but based on former threads on the forum can't say I'm surprised. Evergreen is a study of cowardly, disturbed white liberal teachers, the young black racists they helped create and their sidekicks, the new infantry of militant self-loathing young whites. I won't go into all the details of Evergreen. There are still some vids on youtube but note that the left is trying to pressure youtube into removing the vids as they show how sick and dangerous the entire group of them really are. Suffice it to say one white biology professor objected to a proposed day where whites should not be allowed to come to school, called Day of Absence. They went ballistic on him.

Anyhow both these young ladies deserve more attention for their courage. If you're interested in what pc is doing to humanity and want to hear more rational talking points on it check out the interview and/or either of the girls' youtube channels given above.

https://youtu.be/wNDWhD2x70A

[Atlas]

The white girl's channel [...] features various social issues including race.

The black girl's channel [...] deals almost exclusively with race and pc issues.
Missouri Senators sing Kumbaya :)
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[Helene West]

correction to one point in the op. reparations.me is not on craigslist but:

"Reparations.me, founded by a black woman named Natasha Marin, has a Craigslist-like layout where non-white people post their requests for reparations from white people. White people can fulfill requests as well as post their own offers of reparations." per article, "Black Woman Launches ‘Reparations’ Website For Guilty White People", http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/04/black-woman-launches-reparations-website-for-guilty-white-people/. perhaps this white guilt sub-genre is known to most people but was news to me.

Josephine's channel, featuring the 'oppression olympics':
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC89QtIAIY6xQgOhMYxMWXFA

Talking points against PC by intelligent young people are going to become crucial as more violence is sourced and supported by the globalists in the quest for american third worldization.

[Praxis]

Helene,

I hope you will see this as the olive branch I intend it to be . . .

You have found a problem, stated the problem, and brought it to others attention. This is good.

What do you propose? What would you like to see happen here? What can be done, other than just becoming aware of the issue?

I agree. The bill of rights is and has been under attack from a variety of angles. PC language police and marginalization of white opinions/people is also an issue(which on a side note you think you have it bad try being a straight white male and dealing with the left. You, and I am assuming here based on your name so forgive me if it is wrong, at least get some protection as a woman). While I do not think that white people have had or continue to have it nearly as rough a time as minorities, I do see where you are coming from and have experienced people on the left, who I thought would welcome another advocate, attack me because im CIS gendered White male. I live in Japan currently and now I not have a much greater appreciation for what minorities face and what discrimination actually feels like( have you ever been refused service at a restaurant because your skin color? Have you had people be physically repulsed by your presence so much that they stand up and move away from you? Have you had people stare at you because you are different? I have now and I can tell you if you havent, then you dont truly understand it. I thought I did from a cerebral point of view but the difference in mind and in experience is extremely palpable).

I agree the first step is awareness. If you are not aware of the problem, you can not fix or start to fix or even just brainstorm solutions. So, now we are both aware of this issue; what is the next step? What is the solution?

[Mike Gorman]

The solution is make the matter more well known, and to encourage people to discuss these matters openly and without fear of being shut down. All that evil needs to flourish is the apathy of good people.
I think many of us are getting really tired of political correctness and the mechanisms by which we are all being held to ransom, allowing the nature of our society to be dictated by ideological bullies. Obviously there is a
definite objective at work here to divide us all-national identity and pride in cultural identity is only allowed for minorities it seems.

[Atlas]

[...] at least get some protection as a woman [...]
Err.. what was that again?
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[Helene West]

9 of Clubs
re your: "I live in Japan currently and now I not have a much greater appreciation for what minorities face and what discrimination actually feels like( have you ever been refused service at a restaurant because your skin color? Have you had people be physically repulsed by your presence so much that they stand up and move away from you? Have you had people stare at you because you are different? I have now and I can tell you if you havent, then you dont truly understand it".

My first experiences with blacks was my little brother and I being spit on by them leaning out of a school bus while we walked along side the bus to get to the corner to cross the street..

I could trade other incidents but that's not what I'm writing for.
Regarding your examples - that is exactly what is getting old and what we need to stop throwing in the face of caucasians. It's been done to death and it's an excuse to make whites - shut up while others who don't deserve to exercise revenge which they don't deserve because they are Not Oppressed and most importantly, on innocent people.

I live in the here and now. I won't entertain the past. The here and now is where caucasians are being culturally genocided. So call me whatever you want, I don't care. I won't listen to past slavery and trail of tears or anything else that is about making me shut up regarding analyzing what is being done - NOW. Your so-called 'olive branch' is bs. Your real intention is where you are telling me 'you don't truly understand it'. I'm no longer concerned about your 'it'. Whites have given enough to your 'it'. The U.S., like Europe is circling the toilet.

Whites need to reject all forms of guilt inducement. To make other races entitlement monsters as was displayed at Evergreen College where they stopped cars looking to hunt down a white professor who disagreed with them is not helping blacks.

As the young black girl in the interview says, she is not oppressed and neither are blacks in general in the U.S. and Canada. I doubt you checked her vids out and you won't. She will support my views, not yours.
It's a cruel con going on. There's a sucker born every minute and two to take 'em. It's the Oppression Olympics going on as she puts it.

In the fighting sports they have an expression, 'softening up' your opponent. Teaching hating whites is the softening up to rejecting anything whites have created which is - the U.S., the Constitution, the Bill of Rights. That is what the globalists want. They want the end of sovereignty. They want the union of U.S., Canada and Mexico as prelude to their one world government. They can't use the same exact techniques they have used in Europe flooding some areas with muslims because too many americans here are armed so they have gone all out in Psychological Warfare. hence the teaching of classes about 'whiteness', the threat of violence if young whites try to assemble any type of organization for whites or just shutting them down by having white hating orgs like NAAcp just simply complain to the college and that's that. If you want to know who is oppressed look at who is being suppressed, in speaking, in assembling, etc.

The tired and decrepit using the past and litanies of discrimination of will continue if whites don't start rejecting all forms of guilt and very soon. Elaborations of how evil whites are is being taught, nurtured and disseminated in our very institutions of learning. With the political assassination attempts that went on the other day, it will get worse and it is all connected.

I gave the links, particularly of Josephine's channel, for whites and anyone into truth to have intelligent talking points against racists of color (roc's) and the pathetic white libs who encourage and appease them. I gave the links because they are coming from the young of both races, purposely not wanting to go on with my own views as an older caucasian. I can't write a book here, no time. If someone sees the value they will look and listen to these intelligent young, if they don't see the value, they won't. But there is a war going on now, the globalists want their hands on the neck of america and they are using the left to do the deed and the racial Psy Ops will be among the rants cried as they do it.

If you feel you will do well in the american republic destroyed as so many seem to think, fine, it's your delusion.

[AutumnW]

Helene,

The PC nonsense is a distraction that some people of all races participate in while ignoring the greater issues. I think statements supporting the private prisons, like Jeff Session's, "we need to understand the needs of the private prison industry," overshadow any of the neurotic adventures of earnest academia and the spin offs it engenders.

Do you know that their is no independent oversight in the prison system? If you are a journalist and want to visit a prisoner to ask about the conditions of prison life, you can be denied that request. Most wardens, obviously decline the request.

The various shows about prison life are very managed and will present a Potemkin village type picture of what might actually be going on. Though, even what we see on these shows is pretty grim.

[AutumnW]

For God sakes, Helene, whites aren't being culturally genocided, the POOR of all races are. Part of that requires poor blacks and poor whites fight each other. It makes it easier for those at the pinnacle of power.

[Helene West]

For God sakes, Helene, whites aren't being culturally genocided, the POOR of all races are. Part of that requires poor blacks and poor whites fight each other. It makes it easier for those at the pinnacle of power.

Well for God sakes, Autumn, let me not talk about whites. The nerve of me...

[AutumnW]

Helene, There is nothing wrong with drawing people into discussion about the absurdities you have highlighted so well but context is really important. I have a feeling your worst enemy isn't the weird PC distraction, but those who are fanning its flames.

[Helene West]

Before the quick, simple purpose of my post gets clouded over let me re-summarize.

it was to introduce some young people who are becoming skillful in Talking Back to rocs, racists of color, and the misguided white libs who appease and support them. White libs - the new young militant self-loathing whites that revel in their butt-kissing of people who hate their guts, or the wonderful Kumbaya types who just love everyone and know their love will reach the higher selves of those that hate (smile). The latter have been going on with that for at least 3 decades and have failed. The former are more of the novelty, e.g. Evergreen College incident.
That's it, short info-mercial so to speak.

Many people freeze when they are yelled at by pc'ers and cannot think on their feet. Some who want to be better at that may find the sites useful.
Or people like my neighbor, single Mom working two jobs whose high school senior has started to call her a racist. She's having her daughter robbed from her with this brain washing and she's heartbroken.
It's for people like above that may like the interview and the two girls' channels to pursue if they want.
(btw, another person very skilled at talking back at pc'ers is Ben Shapiro, easy to find. But the two young ladies are a generation younger and in the thick of it and I believe avoid the label of 'conservative' as Shapiro does call himself.)
Info if you want it....

[AutumnW]

Helene, it is all divisive. I don't disagree with you. Everybody who isn't making a six figure salary suffers, as a consequence. There is much more hatred whipped up through nonsense campaigns than real peace.

Yes, a poor single Mom trying to raise her daughter and being called a racist, is going to turn her anger away from the .00001% and towards those who have lost their grip on reality. The whole 'white privilege' applied to white people, across the board is profoundly stupid.

Martin Luther King was assassinated because he tried to unite poor whites and poor blacks. Look at what's happening now. It's perfect for those who are clearly in control.

[Helene West]

Helene, it is all divisive. I don't disagree with you. Everybody who isn't making a six figure salary suffers, as a consequence. There is much more hatred whipped up through nonsense campaigns than real peace.

Yes, a poor single Mom trying to raise her daughter and being called a racist, is going to turn her anger away from the .00001% and towards those who have lost their grip on reality. The whole 'white privilege' applied to white people, across the board is profoundly stupid.

Martin Luther King was assassinated because he tried to unite poor whites and poor blacks. Look at what's happening now. It's perfect for those who are clearly in control.

yes, I think most see that. but we have to deal with the micro(s) and the macro. this is just info on one of the micro points.

Thousands of people view this forum and most will never become a member and of those who become members many will rarely or may never post. There will be those viewing who will read about the interview, people and channels I indicated and view them on their own and they may find it useful. thx

[Daozen]

Looks like the Alt Media Steering Commitee is trying to stoke a RACE WAR, eh readers? :dog:

AutumnW is right, it's the lower social classes being set against each other. Don't fall for it: build hydroponic gardens in deprived areas, crowdfund money with innovative prototypes, set up FB + Meetup groups to co-operate, listen to Coltrane, Mccoy Tyner + Eric Dolphy. Connect, make friendships, reach out, build new timelines. Google : local deprived area transform project entrepreneur and you will find a metric ton of innovation.

The are setting off 3 groups against each other.

On you go Helene...

[Helene West]

Looks like the Alt Media Steering Commitee is trying to stoke a RACE WAR, eh readers? :dog:

AutumnW is right, it's the lower social classes being set against each other. Don't fall for it: build hydroponic gardens in deprived areas, crowdfund money with innovative prototypes, set up FB + Meetup groups to co-operate, listen to Coltrane, Mccoy Tyner + Eric Dolphy. Connect, make friendships, reach out, build new timelines. Google : local deprived area transform project entrepreneur and you will find a metric ton of innovation.

The are setting off 3 groups against each other.

On you go Helene...

The 'alt-media' steering committee? how phony r u?!! CNN advocates the death of our president and while griffin is an employee of mainstream holds up a decapitated head of him. and you blame 'alt-media'... so honest!!

More control-freak bs from the Kumbaya Dept.
If someone wants to start a retirement thread cause they have nothing to do you'd be great at planning their whole day for them, lol, tell them what to listen to, what to do with their money, who to talk to, where to go...

once again, the Post#1 links are for people interested in talking back to racists of color and white mind control liberals. The two young ladies were inspired to create their channels based on 'real life' happenings. :)

On you go, Kumbaya. My garden is fine, thx

[DeDukshyn]

I guess everyone wants in on the victim role these days; whites included?

I agree with a few other's sentiment here ... the fight isn't about the perceived issues, it's about us perceiving others of our own kind (by that I mean our human family) as perpetrators and victims of those perpetrators, which is exactly what our controllers want - they want our focus there, they want us to get angry there; angry at "leftists" at "rightists" at muslims, at blacks, at whites ... that keeps us adequately distracted. What does focusing on it really do? It's just fuel for the fire in a world of programmed beliefs and outrages (which are reflected in out minds) and their triggers.

Does that mean we shouldn't talk about it? Not necessarily, but I think it really indicates that we need to not focus our energies on it but rather locally and build bridges - real bridges, while they would rather we tear them down to meet their ends. That's my two cents anyway. I could care less if there was never another "left vs right" thread on all avalon .... most of us already know how that game is played ... yawn.

[Lifebringer]

It's "Kum bah YAH" Come by here God. Slaves sung it in the fields exhausted from dark to sun down. I don't know about the white guilt stuff. That's on you. WE Hebrew Israelites are paying for OUR father's sin/turn away from God. We were to be the example to the nations. I haven't seen an apology from the world of our condition. America's slavery was inhumane and brutal, not to mention maiming, lynching, drawn and quartered and boiling in oil.
Don't feel for your father's deeds.

I place my trust in THE MOST HIGH GOD to sort this out with truth, and judgement on all the nations who participated. WE've REPENTED and prayed for it since the Million Man March. 1995 OUR children are being shot by authorities just like South African apartheid. Don't by all means even think about repentance for what your fathers have done to our Hebrew Israelite captives here in Babylonette JR.aka NEW Sodom.:clapping: All signs are in the book and skies. Why do you think they chemtrail. To continue the lie and hidden from us. If we all were awakened at the same time, there would be judgement. The Most High God is "giving you guys time to do the right thing like Pharoah, but Babylonette is prideful and no man sits a king.

End of the Esau show folks according to Obediah. 1 ONLY chapter on Esau's destruction and the reason why.

[Lifebringer]

Ew....someone's on the wrong side of the bed this morning.


Good morning and see ya'll later.

[Helene West]

Being able to retort intelligently with SJWs is constructive, not divisive. It's not for everyone, granted.

It would be more interesting for me to load vids but techs here have mentioned it takes up a lot of forum digital space or something so I'm trying to be considerate with using just links.

For anyone just passing through, below is link once again to original interview between two young ladies, white and black, discussing warped sjw mentality plus their respective youtube channels.

Last link is a debate at Northwestern U featuring Ben Shapiro, a conservative attorney who I think could possibly be a pres candidate for the first Jewish president in the coming years.

Interview:
https://youtu.be/wNDWhD2x70A

the Roaming Millenial:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUrVTVTA3PnUFpYvpfMcpg

My Name is Josephine:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC89QtIAIY6xQgOhMYxMWXFA

Ben Shapiro at Northwestern U
https://youtu.be/daA25aYtDsE

It's Friday. My work for this short politico info-mercial is done here.
Have a good weekend!

[Sierra]

Many people freeze when they are yelled at by pc'ers and cannot think on their feet. Some who want to be better at that may find the sites useful.

I'm not quite sure teaching haters better ways to respond to hatred is a good use of Avalon.

Avalon is supposed to be about where Science and Spirituality meet, and if teaching "how to hate better and meaner" is spiritual, then it is spirituality of the most corrupt kind.

But, if one wishes to spread hate, why not do it on a website where hate is welcomed and promulgated? A hater can find white racists websites for themselves, so your justification for using Avalon this way, is bull****.

I agree this is a topic that needs to be exposed and aired, but not like this, not initiated by someone with an racist agenda, willfully ignorant or in denial of history.


As the young black girl in the interview says, she is not oppressed and neither are blacks in general in the U.S. and Canada.

Lol! Well, I am very happy for the so very young, naive, ignorant black girl but her reality is not the reality of most blacks. Another specious bull**** example given to hide reality. The hate is real, and the hate kills.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/02/10/even-more-black-people-were-lynched-in-the-u-s-than-previously-thought-study-finds/?utm_term=.cb0b9974850f


(It is worth pausing here to note that while most discussions of lynching tend to focus on the South, it was by no means just a Southern phenomenon. A “significant” number of lynchings did occur outside this region... [see] “Lynching Beyond Dixie: American Mob Violence Outside the South.” And when the U.S. Senate apologized in 2005 for not passing anti-lynching laws long before, admitting that the legislative body had repeatedly failed to make lynching a federal offense, [2005, but we do slowly make progress - Sierra] the bill noted that lynching had occurred in nearly every state. The authors of the new report outline a series of common threads that tied together the lynchings that occurred across states and over a period of several decades. It took little more than an allegation or a perceived insult [a consequence or fruit of words of hate - Sierra] to spark a lynching in some cases, they write, and the lynchings themselves drew large crowds. James Cameron, who survived being lynched as a teenager and later founded America’s Black Holocaust Museum in Milwaukee, said he remembered seeing 2,000 white people gathered at his lynching, some with their children.
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Check out that (smile) ...


Personally, I'd rather seek to understand what has reduced death by racist hatred over the centuries.

Hatred leads to violence, preaching of various ways to hate leads to violence. I won't bother to link to the recent decapitation that occurred in Mississippi last week, given your angry disinterest in any POV other than your own, but I consider the beheading (while still alive) (the head found by children) a fruit, a consequence, a logical progression of where hate will go, if left unchecked.


... the wonderful Kumbaya types who just love everyone and know their love will reach the higher selves of those that hate (smile).

Lol! No, I agree with you there (smile), those that love to hate are not in touch with their higher selves. And change is not going to happen in most individual cases, but so what. Change is happening anyway because people of good will, work hard to remove institutionalized racism, not personal racism. Sure, if a human wants to dwell in hatred, free will, hey? But not in government, not in prisons, not in the courts, not in murder by extrajudicial action, not in breaking our constitutional rights meant to protect all American citizens.

Seems to me, haters are the mind controlled suckers/victims of the divisive fear porn agenda of the PTB.

I am curious as well. In a "perfect" world, what would you see? What does a racist actually want? What is the goal? In what ways will life improve for whites if we carry these sorts of thoughts, words, and actions to their logical conclusions? Can you describe what would be different? Would lynchings continue? Would decapitations continue? Would a line be drawn in the sand re certain actions allowed or not? How would the violence generated by words of hatred be controlled, if at all? Having trouble visualizing the end goal here, seriously.

How long the Kumbaya? As long as it takes.

[RunningDeer]

Check out that (smile) ...

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/smile_zpstnjgg0hz.jpg

[abmqa]

Check out that (smile) ...

Makes me wonder what type of person she grew up to be.... SMH

[Atlas]

The song [...] is believed to have originated with Southern Slaves and is believed to have been sang in Gullah. Gullah is a language that was spoken by slaves that inhabited North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida.

Gullah Geechee Storyteller Preserves a Painful Past:
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[Sierra]

Check out that (smile) ...

Makes me wonder what type of person she grew up to be.... SMH

I was wondering what the smiling girl passed on to her sons and daughters. Did she show them the photograph or hide it?

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Such good news that Emmett Till was cleared of verbal or physical advances to a white woman, that led to his torture and death. People can change.
In a 2008 interview, first made public in 2017, Carolyn Bryant disclosed that she had fabricated her testimony that Till had made verbal or physical advances towards her.
Of the two men that tortured and killed the fourteen year old boy, though acquitted by an all white jury, apparently did not enjoy the fruits, and consequences of their labors:
Milam and Bryant were acquitted, they initially remained in Mississippi, but were boycotted, threatened, attacked and humiliated by local residents.

Bryant expressed no remorse for his crime and stated:
"Emmett Till is dead. I don't know why he just can't stay dead."

Does anyone know why it took from 2008 to 2017 to make Carolyn Bryant's confession public this year? Seems sort of extreme that the confession was hidden for so long...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

[Atlas]

Who Killed Emmett Till?
BL1vMFwZEus

[Lifebringer]

Helene I think it has more to do with God's//Creator LAWS. The sins of the father or mother passed down to the sons and daughters as a precaution to not bring harm to one's own kin. So the way I understand that is, "WE so called nation called people: African/Americans aka "real Hebrew Isrealites of the bible also known as Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth, had forefathers that turned from God and merged in Gentile religious cult beliefs, from the "image of Christ" aka 6th Pope's illigitimate gay son Caesar Borgia, Michaelangelo's lover as the true messiah Christ. Therefore worshipping another God, not just any image, but a degenerate incestual murderer's image in our minds, churches, and belief. WE were told we would be blind of our culture, belief, and homeland, never to return until the Messiah Iashayah returns. They even put Yahwey the Baal god in Christianity. It is why child sacrifice and pedophilia are rife in the Catholic church and they won't explain it. The bible does. Front to back althroughout Our history book of the prophets and the condition of what became of us. Deuteronomy 28:14-13; 28:29-36; 28:41-55 The eating of the sons and daughters was oral sex swallowing of the seed. Yes, WE were to be a "lesson to the Gentile nations of "if the God would do this to those who are his beloved children as punishment for disobeying HIS laws, then what will he do to the Gentile nations? The evil rulers that know this have not only kept the so-called Iberi/Negro/Iudah population scattered by the yoke of iron in the Atlantic Slave trade in the dark, but also their own nations, people, forefathers, grandmothers and grandfathers that would have repented, had they too known the truth, just as we did in 1995. We've been getting tested since then and our sons and daughters shot or murdered, in police custody. (Iacob's Troubles) Rev 2:9 scares the bejeebers out the Kharzarians in Isreal, now. They know they were the same "converts" merging our book with government holidays, not the original sabbath Day Of Rest by God. 1st covenant between our forefathers of Abraham, Isaac, Iacob. Forever means forever. "Not one tittle, shall be changed from Gods laws. Christ said that and Rome gave us Apollo/Xeus/Neptune and other pagan belief systems "under the threat of death." And if you will not give me just another moment in prophecy comparison, The Islamist terrorist are now in pursuit of the west, to "convert or die" if I'm correct in my observation. Karma on this nation can be found in the founding/history of the "new Babylonette JR./Sodom" That's what I believe our nation has become, because England sent their citizens/seed here, and therefore since Babylon was Rome/Gov merging for profit on the people, then even though America is the only nation not named in Revelation, that "She was a nation with NO King" applies, and the words "the woman was given a time" 911 to repent/give birth to repentance of the nation in sincerity for what foundations, cult religions and secret societies attacking our children in sacrifice and missing posters throughout history of this nation. The dragon/fake Jews of the synagogue of Satan/Anti-Christ Zionist,(that Christ spoke of, will come after us to test God and our turning back to HIM.(we have) WE are that blessed generations Gentiles and Iudah and Ierusalem. I hope enough will repent for past and current deeds done. The weighing of the heart Revelation2:19-23 where God is to reside, is upon us. Happy Sabbath and Praises to The Most High God Ahayah and His Son(real name was also kept from us)Iashayah Messiah. "If my people will but call MY name.:Angel: Translation when we were told by Moses, "I Am that I Am."
TALMUD IS NOT CHRIST WORD.
Torah of Moses IS.