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Fellow Aspirant
24th June 2017, 04:19
During an interview published today wherein Hancock brings us up to date on his theories about the history of our planet and species, I was suddenly struck by a path he took regarding demonic intervention. This piqued my interest immediately because I had been trying (an hour before I stumbled upon Hancock's interview) to absorb the information from a thread recently started (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98441-The-COLLINS-ELITE-Nick-Redfern-Ray-Boeche-and-interdimensional-demonic-aliens-that-the-deep-insiders-may-know-all-about) by Bill Ryan about just such a phenomenon, i.e. the findings of the Collins Elite. Yeah, synchronicity - again. :bigsmile: I would have posted this to Bill's thread but the applicable part of Hancock's information (16 minutes of it) comes at the 30 minute mark (or so); there's much info before that about our pre-history that should be attended to on its own, so I started this thread for its sake, too.

At any rate, Bill's thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98441-The-COLLINS-ELITE-Nick-Redfern-Ray-Boeche-and-interdimensional-demonic-aliens-that-the-deep-insiders-may-know-all-about) is a fascinating compendium of info that builds on the premise that humanity has been under attack by demonic beings for most of its existence. The Linda Moulton Howe show he has linked to contributes a lot of info as well, and she theorizes that we have been targeted by Enlil as a way of striking back at his brother Enki. These are the entities, of course, who may have been responsible for the "birth" of human kind as an agrarian, building, writing, and learning species. And it's here that Hancock's theory makes a great contribution to the mystery, as it's his claim that 'something happened' to our species as we came out of the early paleolithic, something that turned us from a peaceful, cooperative life form that co-existed with our Neanderthal cousins into a crazed killing species that was subject to an evil (my word) so uncontrolled that we wiped them out.

This sudden turning point about 24 000 years ago begs an explanation, and Hancock's claim is that some psychic force "descended upon us" so that we gathered into a "demonic army", led by "a demon in human form". He concludes that there are forces at work, ever since, that are actively seeking to divert humanity from developing our spiritual abilities and so keep us at the mercy of the psychic entities that control us.

This meshed so perfectly with the findings of the Collins Elite (and those who continued their investigations) that I thought it worthwhile posting about it. Sorry, Bill, for splitting off, but like I noted, Hancock's other info is worth its own post.

link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51yj7n5pyMg

Apologies, too, for the abrupt ending at the 46 minute mark. It's clear that Hancock is not finished wrapping up his thoughts, but I can't find a "complete" version of this interview.

SpookyMulder
24th June 2017, 08:33
I am exactly the same when listening to Graham Hancock Fellow Aspirant, always finding him eloquent and concise in his theories and approach. As a matter of fact I am about to finish his latest opus "Magicians of the Gods" quite a stellar read to be honest but so very interesting.
He is simply one of the best in his field, if not the best to my eyes so having him mentioning demonic forces at work, well I can only speculate but I am sure his explanations will be worth the detour.

Thank you for the link!

WhiteLove
24th June 2017, 10:07
My perspective has led me to believe that creation is a series of ever more absolutely true realms of existences and this makes creation all in all an infinite miracle. When I experienced what I think was 4th density, a heavenly place of full subjective truth, I felt that no dark forces were able to penetrate into that world of existence. This indicated to me that in the greater scheme of things the truth is that the dark fades towards the light - also means that the dark's level of access decreases into lighter and lighter realms of existence, else it could not be.

This indicates to me that in more dense realms it might be possible that more dark forces have certain/some level of access to our realm that is currently not at peace. Herein hence also why our unified quest for truth is so important. In this perspective it makes sense to consider the possibility of demons being in charge of heavily destructive events taking place on earth and that behind the scenes in this type of realm there is a battle between light and dark taking place, where the dark forces try to deceive souls into more dark realms and light forces try to guide souls into more light realms.

I have many times come to the conclusion that because of human's struggle to achieve full subjective peace, there must be some force present that actively works to block that. The question is then, who/what is that force, where does it come from and why is it here.

This also leads to the question of what is the boundary of a realm. The answer might be for instance a universe. But it might also be something else, for instance a galaxy, a star system or a planet. But if the boundary of a realm is something huge like for instance a galaxy, galaxy cluster or entire universe, then from our perspective the more dark forces might be dark ET beings that are connected to lower dimensional demonic beings, meaning that the negative force is passed through some intelligent dark entities in our realm that in turn direct that force unto earth through their engagement. On the opposite end we have powerful light ET beings that are in contact with higher dimensional angelic light beings and it all balances towards what it is today.

This leads us to yet another question, which is whether a realm is fixed/static or dynamic in its density level. An idea is that a realm is in itself a being, that is seeking truth through all of the beings it contains. This could mean that creation is an infinite series of beings at infinitely various boundaries and that the process to absolute truth is an infinitely intelligent and meaningful process of becoming beings at higher and higher levels of truth at ever greater/less limiting boundaries. It is quite mind bending to imagine the difference between being constrained by a human body and its life span versus being constrained by the limits of a single universe and its life span...

Cardillac
24th June 2017, 12:19
@Fellow Aspirant and all readers

I was suddenly struck by a path he took regarding demonic intervention"- this is exactly what David Icke has been vociferously (RABIDLY!) expounding upon for over 25 yrs!.-

be well FA and all-

Larry

Wind
24th June 2017, 16:30
"He concludes that there are forces at work, ever since, that are actively seeking to divert humanity from developing our spiritual abilities and so keep us at the mercy of the psychic entities that control us."

That absolutely seems to be the case. For millenias humanity has been guided by dark forces into war and conflict. However, also forces of light are working with us. It seems that the Earth has been a battleground where humans are in a very tough school. The forces of light wish us to "win" the battle and meanwhile the forces of darkness wish to conquer us and corrupt our souls (here on Earth, in death we are free and nothing can touch us). God = love favors the good so I believe there is ultimately nothing to worry about, but we must remain vigilant nevertheless.

Fellow Aspirant
24th June 2017, 17:17
Yes, David has been traveling a rather lonely road for many years now. It's really a positive change when careful and conservative (at least wrt human origins, his work on hallucinogens is not widely accepted, either) investigators like Hancock arrive at the same conclusions. That's why I was so surprised when he came out with the demonic influence claim; it's an especially intriguing explanation for the demise of the Neanderthals.

Brian