What's your go-to response about alien life?

[Matt P]

I'm sure this has been answered before in many threads but I'm looking for an updated and spontaneous response from the members. Information is always changing after all!

So it happened to me again the other day, like it has happened to most of you I'm sure. I found myself in a harmless conversation that somehow shifted to the question of whether or not there is alien life. Or perhaps, like me about a week ago, you're on a website forum and one of the top people says there is no alien life and challenges you to prove it. With either situation, you know you only have a few moments to respond convincingly or maybe a paragraph you can write. Time is precious and attention spans are short.

If you're one (like me) who is absolutely convinced there is alien life, what's your go-to response? What facts do you throw out, if any? What names do you drop? Do you send them to a website or a book? Or maybe you don't even waste your time having the discussion or trying to change their mind at all?

I want to hear from those that like being asked, are confident in their belief and really look to make a positive impression on the person asking/challenging you.

When this happens to me, my responses have been all over the board and I don't feel like I've made much of an impact. I seem to always mention Richard Dolan and that several NASA astraunats have publicly stated their belief in alien life... and I have even recommended people find (and even email) Bill Ryan. [I doubt they ever actually sought out Bill for his opinion, though I'd love to hear about it. lol!]

I know this is a little simplistic but what say you? A friend or stranger has just asked if you belive in alien life and prove it and you've got a short paragraph or a minute or two to make a great first impression on one of the biggest questions in life....

Thanks

Matt

[mojo]

Hi and what a fun question and easy for me to answer by inviting you to see some footage together and share some personal insights after having learned a little more about them. Even better would be to hear about the ones that werent caught on film... but even more exciting lets go to a location I know well and see for ourselves...:)

[The Moss Trooper]

I pinch that line from the film, Contact.


The Universe is a really, really big place, if we're the only life form out there......, Well, seems like an awful waste of Space to me


Something along those lines.

[TrumanCash]

I talk openly about ET contact/abductions and sometimes to people I just met if I sense that they would be open to it. That's how I was able to find other abductees for my research back in the 90s. I just talk mostly about my own experiences and listen to their responses. Sometimes if they are an abductee they will share some of their experiences that they can remember that may indicate they are abductees. I think there are millions of us.

I have found mostly positive results when doing this. Most people are open to the possibilities and I never get any negative feedback (at least not to my face, lol). People are gracious and don't roll their eyes or guffaw. Many times they are eager to know more.

TLC

[norman]

I usually ask them how old they were when they found out they'd been lied to about Santa Clause.

While they are thinking about that, I clobber them with how unlikely it is that the universe is completely devoid of intelligent life except for us.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Matt it depends who I'm talking to ? how long the discussion ? how open they
are ? I find most people I talk to do not think we are alone in this vast universe
especially if they have been following all the exo planets found over the past 20
years ramping up more recently. I try to stick to mainstream material if I'm
talking to a novice or sceptical person. Then progress to Camelot/Avalon
Rich Dolan, Gary Hesseltine , Rich D Hall, Tim Good , L M Howe, etc....

Or ET's like Tall Whites , maybe Billy Meier , touch on David Icke , Joseph Farrell
etc...I leave John Lear etc until they are down the Rabbit hole..LOL...and there
are many more good researchers doing different aspects of this vast field.

From around mid 1990' onwards when I thought disclosure was possibly
on the cards and that was 10 - 15 years before I got on the web. It was
a culmination of many things back then TV, movies, documentaries , Hubble
approaching the millennium ,I have talked about this on many threads.
Steve Basset and Steven Greer tried hard back then and are still trying.
I was only going to type a short answer but you can go on and on....

If I had to narrow it down possibly Rendlesham and Roswell for incidents.
Rich Dolan or Bill and Kerry for basic knowledge , but it depends on the
person and how we got onto the topic and others factors. Maybe I should
delete the first three paragraphs .......:ufo:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92347-Best-UFO-cases-Kerry-Cassidy-interviews-Gary-Heseltine-Bentwaters-1980-UFO-case

[Foxie Loxie]

Too funny, Norman!! :clapping: Good answer!!

[wnlight]

Short answer is positive.

Firstly, I must admit that I have never knowingly met an alien (extraterrestrial) life form face-to-face. Therefore my current position on the subject is based upon second and third person testimony. I fully expect that there are such ET, and that they are visiting the Earth and have been visiting for millennium. My meditation and dowsing support this. I have met contactees including one who had claimed she was abducted many times.

Secondly, The vast universe that we live in would be a real waste if no other people lived in it. However, I do not think that every UFO sighting is a vehicle driven by an ET - most likely much less than a tenth are.

[AutumnW]

The issue of alien visitations and or other dimensional life etc...is a litmus test for me, with regards whether I want to spend time with somebody or not.

I refuse to be put on the defensive and do not waste my time with people who don't respect me and my more objective approach to this issue.

The subject doesn't come up unless I bring it up, so I don't bring it up. The last time I was dragged into a conversation by someone who was goading my husband and I, I basically told him (in a nice way) to shut up -- and that the conversation was over.

[Jad]

@TrumanCash, I read your 2 books and I want to thank you for taking the time and effort to write them. You uncovered extensively the ETC conspiracy and their methodology in how they control both sides of the equation which helps them in predicting the outcomes. I have a few questions for you if you don't mind brother:

1- Why do they do this? With all their technology one would think that they just can live self sufficiently and just enjoy life! Unless they simply love dominating a rigged game? ( It's like Shaquille O'Neal going to a kindergarden class and dominating the kids in Basketball!) Also after reading about all their abductions throughout the millennia and they are still doing these medical exams on abductees, one would think with their tech that they actually mastered the Human Genome/DNA so why even bother with these medical abductions? If the military industrial complex are the only ones doing it then that would make sense, but these ETC are way too advanced to keep doing this research I guess. So what is the real reason for them to do so? What benefit they get from controlling the experience of all these trapped souls on this planet??

2- I noticed that in your second book, you mentioned how you always went back automatically to the reincarnation station. Did you go there by your own choice? Or someone was waiting for you and invited you to come along with them? The reason I ask is because from my understanding that after we die, we are supposed to see some beings/family members or whatever religious figure we believe in and they ask us to escort them to the other side. What if I simply ask them to F off and that I don't want to go anywhere with them, will I still be sucked into the implant station?? Will the light at the end of the tunnel suck me into it without my agreement? Also some guys like Cobra and the Ruiner said something that there are no longer any stations around earth that are trapping souls anymore... is that true? And finally what's the best way to bypass this reincarnation process? I know you said that uncovering our past lifes and discharging our traumas is the key, but is that enough to escape this reincarnation wheel? Or we are simply stuck here for ever?

Thanks again

Jad

[enigma3]

Short answer:
View any Richard Dolan interview.
Read Dark Mission by Hogland and Barra.
Google images of Chinese pics of the dark side of the moon.
Google an image of "Mitchell Under Glass". Explain that one naysayer.
Watch a vid on Youtube entitled "NASA Tether Incident". Get the one about 7 minutes long with a British narrator.
Google an image of "The Shard" on the moon. A shard like projection that projects 1 1/2 miles into space.
Google an image of "Data's Head".
Tell the person to not miss their next counseling appointment and take their meds.

[Spiral]

Where to start lol, well, there obviously must be life out there in a universe this vast esp if someone made us as we are (look at our DNA!)

But & it's a big BUT, the things that are showing up claiming to be "ET" largely aren't .....it's something else altogether that needs a much more critical eye, it's ontological in nature & wants to be believed in ..why the heck would actual aliens obsess about being "believed in" ?????

Are you getting it yet ? ..... Anyone ??

[Foxie Loxie]

Tell us more, Spiral!!! :highfive:

[Spellbound]

My go to response is simply this....of course they exist. Man must be pretty egotistical to think he is the highest form of life out there.

Dave - Toronto

[ghostrider]

Look how many different cultures are on Earth, and this is just one planet of an infinite number of planets... it's like saying the ocean only has one fish in it , or Earth only has one type of tree, one mountain range, one river, etc ... Look how many galaxies there are, with an infinite number of solar systems ... look how we war with our neighbors, Creation got it right, spreading life out so far, people must overcome war and violence to truly explore the cosmos...

[CurEus]

There are a billion, billion, billion stars.....life on Earth exists in every extreme from Arctic wastes to volcanoes to sulfuric acid pools. "life" is out there and it is arrogant to suggest it is not.
I think Ancient Aliens was craptastic enough to make it difficult for the close minded to accept much "evidence". The Disclosure project had some highly credible testimony from Military and government officials....may be useful?

[Eagle Eye]

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[moriarty]

Hi Matt it depends who I'm talking to ? how long the discussion ? how open they
are ? I find most people I talk to do not think we are alone in this vast universe
especially if they have been following all the exo planets found over the past 20
years ramping up more recently. I try to stick to mainstream material if I'm
talking to a novice or sceptical person. Then progress to Camelot/Avalon
Rich Dolan, Gary Hesseltine , Rich D Hall, Tim Good , L M Howe, etc....

Or ET's like Tall Whites , maybe Billy Meier , touch on David Icke , Joseph Farrell
etc...I leave John Lear etc until they are down the Rabbit hole..LOL...and there
are many more good researchers doing different aspects of this vast field.

From around mid 1990' onwards when I thought disclosure was possibly
on the cards and that was 10 - 15 years before I got on the web. It was
a culmination of many things back then TV, movies, documentaries , Hubble
approaching the millennium ,I have talked about this on many threads.
Steve Basset and Steven Greer tried hard back then and are still trying.
I was only going to type a short answer but you can go on and on....

If I had to narrow it down possibly Rendlesham and Roswell for incidents.
Rich Dolan or Bill and Kerry for basic knowledge , but it depends on the
person and how we got onto the topic and others factors. Maybe I should
delete the first three paragraphs .......:ufo:

I agree with you there Somerset, in that it depends who I am talking with, how long I've known then etc but my main response is along the lines - 'Of course there's alien life, the universe is teeming with it' in a nonchalant voice as if the statement is the most obvious observation ever.

Usually this leads with questions about proof but I counter that with 'The internet is full of proof, although there is a lot of disinformation out there' but a good place to start would be to look at statements by Paul Hellyer ex Canadian minister and member of the Privy council.

I haven't checked through the forum as to any threads on Paul Hellyer, so I hope he's respected here

[yelik]

Despite the overwhelming evidence and testimony I take the view that the Universe is life where it could be a type of DNA chain in itself; where we happen to occupy a corrupted strand which needs to be cured one way or another otherwise it could die off and be replaced.

I do tend to bring the subject up at any appropriate opportunity where most people agree we are not alone and Governments are corrupt but that’s about as much many can take at this time. Only a very small percent of those I talk to will be compelled to do their own research.

[Spiral]

Tell us more, Spiral!!! :highfive:

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[Richard S.]

A small list:

Ancient aliens, there is something in that...
NASA tether incident.
Goldilocks-zone planet discoveries.

And like everyone is mentioning Carl Sagan's famous quote about the universe being so large and there is just us!?!?!?

Thanks for the thread, interesting...

[Foxie Loxie]

Spiral....Your having been forced to play a part in this "bizarre game" gives you a unique perspective that many of the rest of us could not even begin to relate to.
I take it we ARE someone else's property. Fortunate are those of us who have not been forced to enter the "bizarre game"....I would say!:flower:

[starlight]

As stated above, I bring up the unlikely possibility of us being alone in such a VAST UNEXPLORED universe. Mankind is egotistical by nature, but my gosh you must be very close minded to disbelieve in ETs. I have a close friend who dislikes even discussing space because the unknown makes her "uncomfortable." REALLY?

It is hard for those of us who have an open mind to not get flustered when others are so programmed. I deal with this daily as I know most of us here do. What can we do? This is a path we must take ourselves. However, we can do our part by planting the first seed in other minds. :flower:

The sky turns pink and orange when the sun goes down. Everything vibrates. Everything is made of atoms. The fact that we are even alive and can communicate with one another and create with our THOUGHTS? Our universe is magical-- who are you to say it isn't so? :ufo:

[TargeT]

Most likely exists, I highly doubt they come here; however.

"UFOLOGY" in general is based on a lot of wishful thinking and very little evidence.

I find it a waste of time/energy for the most part... a distraction.

:sherlock:



Are you getting it yet ? ..... Anyone ??

Yeah, I'm much more interested in thought constructs and mental parasites (Their mind, The flyers, Archons, call it what you will).

Extra dimensional entities are more real to me than sentient biological life from another planet visiting us.

[Cidersomerset]

Extra dimensional entities are more real to me than
sentient biological life from another planet visiting us

That's a very good point , and goes into the David Icke and others,
and one of my favourite analogies I try to use about tuning
into to radio or other devises and when you find the one to listen to,
the others are still there waiting there turn....Well you know what
I mean ...David explains it much better....

[TargeT]

That's a very good point , and goes into the David Icke and others,
and one of my favourite analogies I try to use about tuning
into to radio or other devises and when you find the one to listen to,
the others are still there waiting there turn....Well you know what
I mean ...David explains it much better....


New York city has 636 radio stations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_in_New_York) all broadcasting at the exact same time in the same place;These different frequencies are not only un-aware of each other, but do not interact at all regardless of the shared space.

A person with out a "radio" (way to tune into them) has no concept of their constant existence (24x7)

A person with a typical radio can tune into one at a time, this does not mean the others don't exist; the person with the radio is just unable to experience them when focused on just one.


Our reality has a "known" frequency, (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-virtual-particles-rea/) which could mean mean there are other realities sharing the same space, at a different frequencies (time lines, string theory, "bubble" universes; these theories all attempt to explain this).

[Cidersomerset]

The reason I mentioned Roswell and Rendlesham in a earlier post
is there link to WMD's and the link with ET's monitoring them.

UFOs and NUKES: Full Documentary by Robert Hastings

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98611-UFOs-and-NUKES-Full-Documentary-by-Robert-Hastings&p=1164146#post1164146

[Matthew]

If people ask me what I think I point out the observable universe is huge ..bigger than we can easily comprehend. That's the observable universe. Beyond that is the rest of the universe we can't see because it's so far away light won't even ever reach us. To think we are the only intelligent life is a bit typically egotistical of humans... like when we thought the Sun goes round the Earth.

If I want to talk about the UFO phenomenon on Earth I talk about the Rendlesham forest incident because it's the case with the best supporting evidence that I know of.

What I rarely get to say is I think we may well have a mix of John Keel type ultra-terrestrials, a man made secret space program as well as genuine aliens from another planet all contributing to the UFO phenomenon as we know it. But I don't often get this far, usually only broach the first paragraph which I feel can be a good challenge to closed thinking.