Teleportation - Interesting Footage

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Let me know if this has already been discussed on Avalon.

Last night I was researching Baird Spalding and came across this footage. What's interesting about it to me is that it appears rather old. There is widespread agreement among the great schools for a long time now not to demonstrate Siddhis and other abilities in front of the uninitiated. And certainly not to do so in front of a camera. It would distract from what is true and real and cause very damaging spiritual materialism. That's how we get the destruction of Milarepa and the karmic debt that that incurs.

But this footage may predate that sutra. Assuming it is legitimate, I'd be curious to know where it was found, by whom, and such. There must be a story behind it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbmGaRvhWm0

[Bill Ryan]

Very interesting. :star:

I have no doubt that these abilities are real, on rare occasions.

Here are the four volumes of Baird T. Spalding's book, Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East:


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Baird T. Spalding - Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East - Vol 1.pdf
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Baird T. Spalding - Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East - Vol 2.pdf
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Baird T. Spalding - Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East - Vol 3.pdf
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Baird T. Spalding - Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East - Vol 4.pdf

[Ivanhoe]

Thank you Bill!
I have been looking for these books for some time.
When I first read them (@18 fresh out of high school) I was mesmerized and intrigued by the information they held.
I was raised in a Southern Missionary Baptist household.
They were perhaps the most influential books my young mind had read and they started me on a wonderful adventure!
Bless you!
And thank you Whiskey for starting the thread.

[WhiteLove]

Must be fake, looks fake also, probably fake I would say. But the idea of this being possible is interesting, I do think it is possible, just not here and just not now. (neither in the past)

[Kevan]

I hated his books, sorry.

Here are some FAQ's:
http://www.bairdtspalding.org/frequently-asked-questions-about-baird-t-spalding/

[guyres]

But this footage may predate that sutra. Assuming it is legitimate, I'd be curious to know where it was found, by whom, and such. There must be a story behind it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbmGaRvhWm0

It is from a french documentary from 1986 to 1989, named "Les documents interdits", 12 short stories with footage about strange, bizarre cases...

Les Documents Interdits film complet
Une collection d'histoires rassemblées par Jean-Teddy Filippe au fil de longs mois de recherches : douze s, pour la plupart amateurs, venus des quatre coins du monde et échelonnés sur un demi siècle. Tous parlent d'événements extraordinaires et de mystères inexpliqués pourvu que l'on croie en leur authenticité. « Les Documents Interdits » existent-ils vraiment ?-.Au sommaire: 1. Les plongeurs 2. L'enfant Voix off et commentaires du père 3. Les fantômes 4. Le naufragé Récit jour après jour 5. Le pique-nique 6. L'extra-terrestre 7. Le cas Fergusson 8. Le soldat 9. Les Crown ent les Young 10. Le fou du carrefour 11. La sorcière 12. La Sibérie.

[Pam]

Paramahansa Yogananda gives multiple accounts of this sort of event in his autobiography, "Autobiography of a Yogi". I have no doubt that there are a small number of people on this planet that can do this.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Thank you guyres. Much appreciated.

Kevan, there might be more in the documentary that guyres mentioned to tie it to Spalding, but the clip I linked shows us nothing that would make that link except the title applied by the youtube poster.


Must be fake, looks fake also, probably fake I would say. But the idea of this being possible is interesting, I do think it is possible, just not here and just not now. (neither in the past)

Certainly could be fake, either as a hoax or staged for a show, but I would not say "must be fake". I know from my own witnessing and experiences that these things and many more are quite possible.

[Bill Ryan]

It is from a french documentary from 1986 to 1989, named "Les documents interdits", 12 short stories with footage about strange, bizarre cases...

Les Documents Interdits film complet
Une collection d'histoires rassemblées par Jean-Teddy Filippe au fil de longs mois de recherches : douze s, pour la plupart amateurs, venus des quatre coins du monde et échelonnés sur un demi siècle. Tous parlent d'événements extraordinaires et de mystères inexpliqués pourvu que l'on croie en leur authenticité. « Les Documents Interdits » existent-ils vraiment ?-.Au sommaire: 1. Les plongeurs 2. L'enfant Voix off et commentaires du père 3. Les fantômes 4. Le naufragé Récit jour après jour 5. Le pique-nique 6. L'extra-terrestre 7. Le cas Fergusson 8. Le soldat 9. Les Crown ent les Young 10. Le fou du carrefour 11. La sorcière 12. La Sibérie.

Thank you! :thumbsup:

Here it is, with a very clear, well-translated voiceover in English. I've not seen this before. I have to say, it's more than fascinating, from start to finish.

The clip shown in the 'Teleportation' video starts at 7:10 ("Les Fantômes", or "The Ghosts"). It's far longer (8 mins), with a full commentary of the entire context. The events take place in December 1953. It really does needs to be watched several times.

By the way, as best I can see, this is nothing to do with Baird Spalding — who died several months before this footage was filmed. The characters in the clip ('Miguel' and his shaman father) speak Spanish, and my guess is that this was filmed in Mexico. I'd very much welcome any further information on who 'Miguel' is, and who filmed this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA75cfGSYJc

Some comments are here... I'm searching for more.


http://drjon.livejournal.com/704422.html

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Fantastic score. Thanks, Bill.

[Bill Ryan]

Okay, stop press... it all appears to be faked.


https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Documents_interdits



http://www.paranormal-encyclopedie.com/wiki/Articles/Documents_interdits
Google translation here:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=fr&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.paranormal-encyclopedie.com/wiki/Articles/Documents_interdits&usg=ALkJrhioXMrq-e2M9C1oMLf85Q1ytl_aqQ

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Excellent detective work as always, Bill.

[avid]

Sorry for being a wee bit silly, but the Siberian 'robo' chap with the fake hand who got it stuck opening a window, why didn't they just tickle him under his armpit? :idea: :bigsmile:

Blast, an hour and some wasted but was quite entertaining, even distracted me from shouting at my builders - result :thumbsup:

[Ben]

I sooo wanted this to be true!

Now I know it's faked, my rational brain has kicked in and have had some insight regarding teleportation.

So, our bodies are physical matter, and in this 3D density, as far as the laws of space-time are concerned, to get anywhere at all (ie. moving from one place to another), we have to move physically to that place. This takes time of course.

Now, teleportation in theory is possible but only if we travel through time to get to another physical place (time-space). So by this theory, the video must be faked due to the instant relocation of the people from one place to another. Unless....

The only way for human teleportation to be possible therefore, would be to personally travel through time to get to said other location.

Has anyone come accross any evidence for this happening?

I love thinking about this concept and it's boggled my mind on many an occasion!

:sherlock:

[Ben]

I've also believed for many a year, with some conviction, that travelling through time-space is how ET spacecrafts get here.

Possible us humans from the future?

[guayabal]

why teleport if you can enjoy the walk... I prefer the ability to realize that time is not scarce.

[7alon]

Okay, stop press... it all appears to be faked.


https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Documents_interdits



http://www.paranormal-encyclopedie.com/wiki/Articles/Documents_interdits
Google translation here:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=fr&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.paranormal-encyclopedie.com/wiki/Articles/Documents_interdits&usg=ALkJrhioXMrq-e2M9C1oMLf85Q1ytl_aqQ


Yeah I had a feeling it was faked. I don't know why, sometimes spidey sense works, sometimes not! :ROFL:

[neutronstar]

I sooo wanted this to be true!

Now I know it's faked, my rational brain has kicked in and have had some insight regarding teleportation.

So, our bodies are physical matter, and in this 3D density, as far as the laws of space-time are concerned, to get anywhere at all (ie. moving from one place to another), we have to move physically to that place. This takes time of course.

Now, teleportation in theory is possible but only if we travel through time to get to another physical place (time-space). So by this theory, the video must be faked due to the instant relocation of the people from one place to another. Unless....

The only way for human teleportation to be possible therefore, would be to personally travel through time to get to said other location.

Has anyone come accross any evidence for this happening?

I love thinking about this concept and it's boggled my mind on many an occasion!

:sherlock:

No, our bodies are not physical matter. Even physicist today don't call particles chunks of matter any more, they call them bits of information. Even Einstein said the universe is an allusion.

It's a consciousness system, information system, call it what you want, but you can't call it matter because it is not made up of any.

Master you consciousness and you can do most anything.

[Iancorgi]

Hi everyone, this is my first post. I really had to react to this topic because I've been haunted by this tv programme for years.

The show was broadcasted weekly on a French TV channel (Fr3) and there never was any mention of fakery and the concept of mock documentary was unknown to most people in the mid 90's. I Was a teenager back then and I had just started reading Carlos Castaneda work and found it to be absolutely mesmerizing so the "les documents interdits" caught me exactly at the right time in a state of suspended disbelief regarding supernatural events. I was telling everyone I knew to watch the show that it was real so when they finally revealed that it was all fiction I felt a sense of shame and betrayal. I couldn't believe that a major TV channel would intentionaly fool its viewers for weeks.

So I guess I learned a valuable lesson thanks to this documentary from then on I started questioning what the media fed us but then again I must be very credulous because i fell hook line and sinker for the "Mermaid people" on the History channel a few years ago.

[WhiteLove]

Hi everyone, this is my first post. I really had to react to this topic because I've been haunted by this tv programme for years.

The show was broadcasted weekly on a French TV channel (Fr3) and there never was any mention of fakery and the concept of mock documentary was unknown to most people in the mid 90's. I Was a teenager back then and I had just started reading Carlos Castaneda work and found it to be absolutely mesmerizing so the "les documents interdits" caught me exactly at the right time in a state of suspended disbelief regarding supernatural events. I was telling everyone I knew to watch the show that it was real so when they finally revealed that it was all fiction I felt a sense of shame and betrayal. I couldn't believe that a major TV channel would intentionaly fool its viewers for weeks.

So I guess I learned a valuable lesson thanks to this documentary from then on I started questioning what the media fed us but then again I must be very credulous because i fell hook line and sinker for the "Mermaid people" on the History channel a few years ago.

It must feel better for you now. You have gone through density release - a false portion of yourself has turned into truth, darkness into light. This is the type of process we all go through now in our quest to awaken and it is a highly important process. We live in a world that has lots of this type of stuff that is attached to people and it is causing density and limitation. Collectively we can unbind the false.