Quantum Gravity Research: Emergence Theory Overview

[mojo]

This was a great video and learned about a new theory.
Below is the intro from their website which has a lot of interesting info...

Emergence theory is a unified first-principles theory currently in development by a Los Angeles-based team of scientists. Emergence theory weaves together quantum mechanics, general and special relativity, the standard model and other mainstream physics theories into a complete, fundamental picture of a discretized, self-actualizing universe.http://www.quantumgravityresearch.org/

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[Justplain]

Thanks, Mojo. I really like this video and the sound of the theory. Its a slick vid but makes very profound concepts accessible.

I have seen atleast a couple of other unified field theories out there on the web. The author of this one claims experimental results support its theory. Brandenburg GEM unified field theory:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389211005876

[Innocent Warrior]

That's exciting, they're headed in exactly the right direction I think. I know the future affects the past but to truly realise it and observe it, somehow, would change everything.

I'm pretty sure there are variations of the double split experiment where this can be observed (will check to be sure), but I'm talking about applying it to life in profound ways.

Update: For anyone interested in checking out the double split experiment, see chapter eight, "The Most Amazing Experiment", starting at pg. 61 of Robert Lanza's book, "Biocentrism", full free copy HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9462-Interesting-Free-Books-in-PDF&p=1047911&viewfull=1#post1047911). It includes variations that reveal astounding behaviour of the quantum world.

And yes, they observed the future affecting the past in a double split experiment in 2002, a snippet from that chapter -


They’ve each already hit the final barrier and were detected— before twin p encountered the polarizing scrambling device that would rob us of which-way information.

The photons somehow know whether or not we will gain the which-way information in the future. They decide not to collapse into particles before their distant twins even encounter our scrambler.

I think that when they move on to include the double split experiment being performed by individuals with varying states of consciousness, so altering the state of the observer instead of just adding in extra detectors etc., then their findings will reach the point of being able to be applied in life in profound ways, so much more than free energy etc., and into the discovery of the true nature of creation and human capabilities.

I so badly want humanity to see how amazing we all are, can you tell? :blushing:

[Noelle]

The prospect that the future can affect the past like the past affects the future ... could this explain in part or full the Mandela Effect?

[Innocent Warrior]

The prospect that the future can affect the past like the past affects the future ... could this explain in part or full the Mandela Effect?

I had the same thought, can't see why not, physics supports it, a lot more convincingly than psychology does with the false memories theory. No way of knowing for sure at this point but if that were the case then we'd expect quite a change coming in the future, logic would dictate it would be something that hasn't happened before because the ME is new, probably a first for us.

Another part of that chapter that's interesting is where they effectively changed nothing but their mind and it affected the result, the implications of that are astounding. Where are our minds? Are they in our head or everywhere? And is our mind in the world or is the world in our minds? Seems like both.

[Noelle]

I know a lot of people are not eager to embrace the simulated reality theory, but some of the discussions going on about it and supporting evidence, well, it's just hard for me not to seriously consider it.

Robert Bruce, author of "Astral Dynamics," describes the Astral Plane as similar to a checkerboard, or a grid. I have had OBEs in which I fly through tunnels that are grid-like. Practically everything in our reality can be described with math.

The following is from an article, Why it matters that you realize you're in a computer simulation (https://ieet.org/index.php/IEET2/more/Edge20151114), that I am reading right now:

Via Tegmark’s thinking, we can assume that if the physics and/or nature of any given universe that lends itself to be described through mathematics or exhibits mathematical constants, then it can be surmised to be analogous to, or a derivative of, a computer simulation—even by the entities within that simulation. In other words, if you can compute it, it’s likely the result of a computer itself. ...

...You cannot evolve an intelligent sample inside a simulation whilst keeping that simulation hidden indefinitely. Eventually their science will reveal their circumstance, unless of course there is some kind of outside intervention—The same kind of intervention that we should supposedly play dumb in an effort to avoid provoking.

We may be able to figure it out through science, but it does not necessarily mean we will know why we are in a simulation and who created it.

[Innocent Warrior]

@LadyM I think that's a valid theory but my experiences suggest it's not a computer or AI (not sure that's what you mean, correct me if I've got that wrong?). I think that exists, like a holodeck with the safety feature switched off but this doesn't seem like that to me.

Just my observations here, not attempting to invalidate the theory you're presenting. I've experienced things that showed me the degree to which the outside world can shift dramatically and instantly and shift back again, one time someone was with me and experienced it too, so it isn't just in my head. One of those times it shifted back in response to my action (my HS guided me to, otherwise I wouldn't have known what to do). So, if this is a simulation of some kind then I think it's ours but being unaware of it we can be manipulated into creating to suit the agendas of ones who are aware. I think it's a matter of being aware of the true nature of creation and reality and some have known for a long time and keep the knowledge to themselves.

So, in my view, it's either self creating, as per theory in the OP, meaning we're creating it or co-creating it, or what happens in it at least, or it is as you say but that the mechanisms change once we perceive independently from the collective enough. IDK but we definitely have a part in creating this according to my experience. But the shifts in reality seem to just happen, the mystery for me is how can we get more in control over our part, whatever the extent of that is. My theory is that we refine our state of consciousness until eventually what manifests aligns with our will, just as an a effect of the flow of our life.

Update: LadyM, I just adjusted the first sentence, wrote that wrong, and changed "dynamics" to "mechanisms" (sorry, haven't been sleeping well).

[Noelle]

@LadyM I think that's a valid theory but my experiences suggest it's not a computer or AI (not sure that's what you mean, correct me if I've got that wrong?) that's creating it. I think that exists, like a holodeck with the safety feature switched off but this doesn't seem like that to me.

Just my observations here, not attempting to invalidate the theory you're presenting. I've experienced things that showed me the degree to which the outside world can shift dramatically and instantly and shift back again, one time someone was with me and experienced it too, so it isn't just in my head. One of those times it shifted back in response to my action (my HS guided me to, otherwise I wouldn't have known what to do). So, if this is a simulation of some kind then I think it's ours but being unaware of it we can be manipulated into creating to suit the agendas of ones who are aware. I think it's a matter of being aware of the true nature of creation and reality and some have known for a long time and keep the knowledge to themselves.

So, in my view, it's either self creating, as per theory in the OP, meaning we're creating it or co-creating it, or what happens in it at least, or it is as you say but that the dynamics change once we perceive independently from the collective enough. IDK but we definitely have a part in creating this according to my experience. But the shifts in reality seem to just happen, the mystery for me is how can we get more in control over our part, whatever the extent of that is. My theory is that we refine our state of consciousness until eventually what manifests aligns with our will, just as an a effect of the flow of our life.

No worries. I am not suggesting AI, though I have not eliminated it as a possibility. But computer simulation (i.e., "code-based" cosmic quantum computer as mentioned at the end of OP video [discussed starting at 26:00 min.]), yes, that is what I am referring to.

Honestly, I don't know or what I know is not enough to say it's this way or that way. I'm in a state of not believing anything, or trying hard to, to keep my mind open to new ways of looking at what reality really is. However, I strongly lean toward the idea that we are co-creators in this reality. And if you were to ask me which scenario I would prefer if it turns out that we are in a simulation, then I hope it's something like your theory. When I do think deeply about it, I tend to go in your direction but get stuck on the why and who or what is behind it. As noted in the video, something created the code.

[Innocent Warrior]

@LadyM. Yeah, we're on the same page with our approach regarding theories. I'm certain of some elements from experience and scientific observations but set beleifs can get in the way, so I understand where you're coming from.

I value our experiences greatly, they're key to learning ourselves and about reality, thanks for sharing your insights as I'm not much of an OBEr myself, fascinating stuff. You know what we need, we need some scientists to stop being afraid of working with the mystical nature of reality. Mystics have the answers that can be used like leads and then science can catch up. I love the scientists who build from the bottom up, the grounded nature of that is invaluable but some mystical scientists would get there faster.

[Noelle]

@LadyM. Yeah, we're on the same page with our approach regarding theories. I'm certain of some elements from experience and scientific observations but set beleifs can get in the way, so I understand where you're coming from.

I value our experiences greatly, they're key to learning ourselves and about reality, thanks for sharing your insights as I'm not much of an OBEr myself, fascinating stuff. You know what we need, we need some scientists to stop being afraid of working with the mystical nature of reality. Mystics have the answers that can be used like leads and then science can catch up. I love the scientists who build from the bottom up, the grounded nature of that is invaluable but some mystical scientists would get there faster.

Now that I can totally agree with: science and metaphysics need to come together more. And thank goodness for those scientists who have gone outside of the box. If the future can affect the past, perhaps their courage and hard work is working its way down through the ages and altering how science was done and is done in the present. :idea: And thanks for your insights too. Always appreciated! Maybe what's happening consciousness-wise here on Avalon and other like-minded communities is recreating our past and already manifesting in some way in the present. Cool thing to think about.

[Justplain]

When looking at my own experience and understanding, i can see that being a human being is an extremely long and difficult process. If this reality were simply a computer simulation, i dont think it would take so longer to develop, nor need to be as complicated. If one looks at the complexities of multi-celled organisms, which current white world science is only just coming to some grips with, many people believe that it is too complex to have been randomly generated, implying its the product of intelligent energy. Also, we know that matter is energy and matter is mostly space. We know everything is a wavicle. What we dont have a grip on is what consciousness is, as the OP vid suggests.

What the mathematical nature of reality suggests is that it has been designed, and by something intelligent, which inherently implies consciousness. So consciousness concocted reality, presumably for a purpose. Most likely to entertain itself with. From our own experiences we can see this has, and continues to be a extremely long, long term, difficult and likely labour intensive process. The tales of thousands of human incarnations for a single soul can attest to that. Our muti-dimensional reality may be a haulogram, but its hardly a simple simulation.

[Noelle]

When looking at my own experience and understanding, i can see that being a human being is an extremely long and difficult process. If this reality were simply a computer simulation, i dont think it would take so longer to develop, nor need to be as complicated. If one looks at the complexities of multi-celled organisms, which current white world science is only just coming to some grips with, many people believe that it is too complex to have been randomly generated, implying its the product of intelligent energy. Also, we know that matter is energy and matter is mostly space. We know everything is a wavicle. What we dont have a grip on is what consciousness is, as the OP vid suggests.

What the mathematical nature of reality suggests is that it has been designed, and by something intelligent, which inherently implies consciousness. So consciousness concocted reality, presumably for a purpose. Most likely to entertain itself with. From our own experiences we can see this has, and continues to be a extremely long, long term, difficult and likely labour intensive process. The tales of thousands of human incarnations for a single soul can attest to that. Our muti-dimensional reality may be a haulogram, but its hardly a simple simulation.

Another thing that I can agree on. If this is a simulation, how could it be simple? If it is some powerful quantum computer generating it, then the technology might be, at this point, beyond our comprehension. Quantum computing is still in its infancy in this reality, but who knows how it could evolve in 100 to 1,000 years. Tom Campbell's work helped me get to the point where I am comfortable considering that our reality may be a quantum-computer generated reality. Lately, I have thought about the idea of our universe being a combination of holographic and augmented reality. How would that work? Is it even possible? I guess that train of thought should go in a different thread.

[Baby Steps]

Fantastic & lots of synchronicities.

I am surprised to see that Nasim Haramein (https://resonance.is/about-haramein/) is not part of that group- but I would not be surprised if they are working on the same stuff.

I was very impressed with Haramein’s statement in THIS POST (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98351-Are-You-Born-Twice&p=1160515&viewfull=1#post1160515), that if you use the black hole radius of a proton, the strong force is, in fact quantum gravity. Haramein talks (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97116-One-man-s-g.u.t.&p=1152852&viewfull=1#post1152852) extensively about using the Plank length and black hole radius for particles, to arrive at clues towards the mechanism of gravity.

Regarding quantum physics and consciousness, the idea I think is that our observation of a particle permanently resolves it into either its PARTICLE FORM or its WAVE FORM. If we decide in advance, for example, that it is a wave, then the particle OBEYS OUR INTENT. So there we have it , wizards, we do have command over this reality.

The idea that our observation determines whether something is there-or what state it is in (Schrodinger’s Cat) has been likened to RENDERING in virtual reality – see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38987-The-Nature-of-Reality-by-Tom-Campbell&p=407160&viewfull=1#post407160). If we do not observe it , supposedly it is not there.

Another group discussing the pixellation of reality here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91117-Elon-Musk-Nails-it-We-are-living-in-a-computer-simulation&p=1160681&viewfull=1#post1160681). I agree with Lady M, I do not think it is a simulation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91117-Elon-Musk-Nails-it-We-are-living-in-a-computer-simulation&p=1089343&viewfull=1#post1089343). I will settle for holographic illusion-Maya. It obeys laws that we can derive, and eventually we will find the governing equations. If you get down to the level of fundamental particles, they will each obey mathematical laws, so, in theory, at the fundamental particle level, they could be a simulation.

Someone once told me that ‘charge is spin in the 5th dimension’. Magnetism also is higher dimensional spin, according to my source.

This is another area where this work greatly resonates. They are saying that our fundamental particles are projections into 3d of an 8d crystal matrix of plank ‘pixels’. To be clear, they are saying that there are higher dimensions in our physical universe- so there are places HERE that you cannot point to, but they physically exist. I would differentiate this from the ascension psi op, and ideas of higher ‘OCTAVES OF MATTER’ that I believe are possible.

The idea higher physical dimensions has to be right , because thinking at a very simple level, the seemingly random behaviours of particles as confirmed by quantum physics , says to me that they are not closed or discrete systems- energy is acting on them. They appear and disappear. Quantum physics describes their behaviour in terms of probability. So for me, this means that a higher dimensional continuum is impinging into our space IN THE FORM OF particles that appear discrete, but are in a higher dimension CONNECTED to the continuum.

Finally, it is great that they are saying that the meeting point between quantum physics and relativity is the black hole. I think that this is right. I would just say that if the material I am working on in this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97116-One-man-s-g.u.t.&p=1145971&viewfull=1#post1145971) is right, then their funny cartoon of Einstein falling into a black hole is portrayed from the view point of a ‘God’ , outside of space-time, rather than US, the material observers, who are inside the black hole universe.

[ExomatrixTV]

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Groundbreaking documentary from the genius guys at 'Quantum Gravity Research' about the true nature of reality. This is cutting edge science that will one day change the way we view our reality forever. http://quantumgravityresearch.org (http://www.quantumgravityresearch.org)

[Justplain]

If this project puts some energy into analyzing the consciousness component of their seven fold research scheme, then perhaps more scientific basis could be added to our understanding there. We are quite familiar with syncronicities, and the influence of the mind (such as in 'the secret'). On the other hand, perhaps consciousness should be the last thing they investigate since the clowns in black ops would likely try to weaponize it.

From my standpoint, the idea this reality is generated by AI, or a giant quantum type computer is really a red herring. In the middle ages there was a debate amongst 'intellectuals' about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. There is no answer to be derived. A distraction, or diversion.

To my mind, the universe has taken too long to evolve for it to be 'staged'. This universe may be a black hole, however. There may be an almost unlimited number of universes like ours. If the info passed to us from the higher realms is true, each soul will eventually be able to create their own universes since we are apprentice creators. So perhaps our collective soul is the creator of this universe, and in that way our reality has been crafted by a higher consciousness/intelligence. It's a little humbling with how incredible our reality actually is.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Hervé]

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[sunwings]

Firstly Kudos for making a great video. Saved!

The part which left me stunned was how they were starting to piece together consciousness. Starting to show how consciousness was able to effect the pixels and in turn the other pixels would be affected and fall into place afterwards.

Is the only organic matter our Soul, while the rest is just a simulation for us to learn.

just a few quotes i think about from the Seth Materials

The vitality force, life, and creativity behind your physical
existence is generated in this other dimension. In other words, you are in many ways a
fleshy projection of your dreaming self.

Anything of which you are aware in three-dimensional existence is only a projection
of a greater reality into that dimension. The events of which you are conscious are only
those fragments of activities that intrude or appear to your normal waking
consciousness.

[amor]

Consider the possibility that we are the creators of this matrix and that we continue to create it as we go, just as we are messing with the human genome and making changes to it. At the top of the pyramid, I believe, is one MIND of which we are partial clones interacting with other ones, creating, inventing, learning, etc., exponentially.

[Baby Steps]

the following video shows what an object with four spatial dimensions could look like when viewed from a three dimensional perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t4aKJuKP0Q