We're going back to the reptilians

[Jayren]

I'm making another short video in my spare time this time I will be narrating it. I want to know though, was the reptilian "conspiracy theory" around before David Icke? Did anyone even know about the reptilians before David broke the ice? I'm gathering all the evidence, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.

[Molly4US]

In my opinion, the use of the work "reptilian" could be a metaphor, because from what I have heard via the Art Bell show etc, these "reptilians" are not very nice. So maybe "reptilian" is the metaphor for cold-blooded creeps.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

In my opinion, the use of the work "reptilian" could be a metaphor, because from what I have heard via the Art Bell show etc, these "reptilians" are not very nice. So maybe "reptilian" is the metaphor for cold-blooded creeps.

My understanding is that some reptilians have evolved into loving beings. Other reptilians still have a long way to go and they give all reptilians a bad name throughout the universe.

[Molly4US]

IDK. Your face looks to hold quite a smile, above in VA, so maybe you are pulling my leg about these reptilians existing.
On a slightly, but perhaps similar note: I have been approached several times in my life, several times, by persons whose face changed instantly before my eyes. On some of the occasions the person gave hints as to what was happening which I will denote below. In all instances, a crime was taking place towards me: 3 rape(s), theft and tasering, a shooting nearby of someone else.(A lot of crimes, but I am a targeted individual and it is because I am a witness of some murders to a group of CIA etc when I was a toddler by some AXIS/Islamics. TMI, they want to inundate me with unprovable event after unprovable event so that I will be deemed uncredible).

Regarding the instant face-changes which reptilian could be a metaphor of since reptiles shed their skin, and can shed their tail.
1. In 1987, an unknown White male barged into a friends house that I was visiting. The male was out of sorts, said that "in the Phillipines they use a satellite to make masks on everyone of George Bush." The males face made weird contortions, and he grabbed me, pulled up my mini-skirt and did something bad.
2. In 1989 a White male who was supposed to be a guest said that he used to do an act in Las Vegas. The male suddenly began placing his hand over his face and everytime he moved his hand, his face was severely distorted to a degree that no human facial muscles could contort themselves. This guy then did bad things to me against my will.
3. In 1993 an Asian male with marker pen writing of "Ismail Ax" all over his arms and a torn t-shirt came up to me abruptly in a college classroom. I was so startled that I could not move, but the male's face then shifted to about three different faces, like a template was being used on his facial skin remotely.
4. In 2006 an Asian female came up to me in a parking lot after I had done some MAJOR Christmas shopping. I had the hatchback of my vehicle open when she approached me, she then said, "Who do I look like?" Since she didn't look to be a menacing person I simply answered her, "%^$^&&, my neighbor." The females face then distorted to resemble that neighbor's face perfectly, as if when I told the name, then a computer quickly opened a file of my neighbors picture, made a 3-d template of it, and then contorted the females face to it.
5. In the years of 2006-2012 or so, several Asian young people with similar genetic features came up to me and asked the same question, "Who do I remind you of?" Each time I felt compelled to answer. . . even though I should not have. Each time I was robbed etc. and a device took away my conscious memory of the event for at least a week.
In Elk Grove, California, we're being hit so hard by gang activity using these weapons.
They are cold-blooded. They "shed" their facial skin. Essentially, they are reptilians.
It seems that our driver license and young peoples school pictures have been uploaded into a satellite which then these criminals can download our 3-d face template onto themselves as a framing tool. No pun intended.

[Flash]

Those are strange stories and I am truthfully sad for what happened to you repetitively.

After reading what you wrote, I have been witness to very violent behaviors twice in my life, and now that I read you, I realised that I do not remember the perpretators faces. And I am wondering if it changed as you described, why wouldn't I want to remember?

Those are definitely reptilian like énergies, no doubt.

I also remember reading about people changing eyes color and appearance Under very heavy stress.

[Limor Wolf]

Much of your question, Jayren, can be answered by a lot of research done on the ancient gnostic and scriptures by Dr Corado Malanga, for example, by UFO researcher Barbara Bartholic, by Dr Karla Turner, by Eve Lorgen in the 90's, by James Bartley. David Icke has fronted that information pretty much to millions of people, but by all means that is not his 'discovery', the archontic presence was well known and referred to from ancient time, as well as with the many who are well able to see beyond the illusion facade of our ' reality' presented to us under the management of these beings that are far and wide then ' reptilians', but go to quite a few races and species who are harvesting on the human beings lack of knowledge and mind controlled indifference

[Molly4US]

Referring to Limor above, you used the word "harvest". There are many nooks of people-groups that "need" to harvest from healthy beings since their own communities had done so much in-breeding resulting in bringing recessive genetic problem traits and syndromes to the fore, and a resultant dominance of those defects. I believe, from experience, that SOME of the "contactee sightings" are being visited to steal healthy DNA/sperm/egg/fetus/embyos. It is despicable to me. Why don't they just ask nicely? There would be someone willing.

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Molly, I think your experience is reflective to what many know and see, in a grander perspective there is a chain of ' events' that the harvesters are being harvested themselves, or have lost their ability to energise and regenerate life and so need to 'harvest' in order to maintain themselves. in the eyes of creation, what were the terms that such occurrences have manifested in universes that are literally abundant.. and it's interesting to ask - how this scarcity has been created out of the 'all there is', but in a more down to earth terms of thinking, no one in their right mind would volunteer to be 'eaten' as that is the destruction rather then the expansion.

And aren't we as society doing the same with animals? seeing those connections and taking the charge on our day to day life decisions on these matters help revers the inversion on our reality and our minds on what we accepted as 'normal' - unless it's done to us, of course. Really quite fascinating

[Jayren]

Hi Molly, I think your experience is reflective to what many know and see, in a grander perspective there is a chain of ' events' that the harvesters are being harvested themselves, or have lost their ability to energise and regenerate life and so need to 'harvest' in order to maintain themselves. in the eyes of creation, what were the terms that such occurrences have manifested in universes that are literally abundant.. and it's interesting to ask - how this scarcity has been created out of the 'all there is', but in a more down to earth terms of thinking, no one in their right mind would volunteer to be 'eaten' as that is the destruction rather then the expansion.

And aren't we as society doing the same with animals? seeing those connections and taking the charge on our day to day life decisions on these matters help revers the inversion on our reality and our minds on what we accepted as 'normal' - unless it's done to us, of course. Really quite fascinating

Fascinating indeed and thank you for that info up there I will research more into those names.

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IDK. Your face looks to hold quite a smile, above in VA, so maybe you are pulling my leg about these reptilians existing.
On a slightly, but perhaps similar note: I have been approached several times in my life, several times, by persons whose face changed instantly before my eyes. On some of the occasions the person gave hints as to what was happening which I will denote below. In all instances, a crime was taking place towards me: 3 rape(s), theft and tasering, a shooting nearby of someone else.(A lot of crimes, but I am a targeted individual and it is because I am a witness of some murders to a group of CIA etc when I was a toddler by some AXIS/Islamics. TMI, they want to inundate me with unprovable event after unprovable event so that I will be deemed uncredible).

Regarding the instant face-changes which reptilian could be a metaphor of since reptiles shed their skin, and can shed their tail.
1. In 1987, an unknown White male barged into a friends house that I was visiting. The male was out of sorts, said that "in the Phillipines they use a satellite to make masks on everyone of George Bush." The males face made weird contortions, and he grabbed me, pulled up my mini-skirt and did something bad.
2. In 1989 a White male who was supposed to be a guest said that he used to do an act in Las Vegas. The male suddenly began placing his hand over his face and everytime he moved his hand, his face was severely distorted to a degree that no human facial muscles could contort themselves. This guy then did bad things to me against my will.
3. In 1993 an Asian male with marker pen writing of "Ismail Ax" all over his arms and a torn t-shirt came up to me abruptly in a college classroom. I was so startled that I could not move, but the male's face then shifted to about three different faces, like a template was being used on his facial skin remotely.
4. In 2006 an Asian female came up to me in a parking lot after I had done some MAJOR Christmas shopping. I had the hatchback of my vehicle open when she approached me, she then said, "Who do I look like?" Since she didn't look to be a menacing person I simply answered her, "%^$^&&, my neighbor." The females face then distorted to resemble that neighbor's face perfectly, as if when I told the name, then a computer quickly opened a file of my neighbors picture, made a 3-d template of it, and then contorted the females face to it.
5. In the years of 2006-2012 or so, several Asian young people with similar genetic features came up to me and asked the same question, "Who do I remind you of?" Each time I felt compelled to answer. . . even though I should not have. Each time I was robbed etc. and a device took away my conscious memory of the event for at least a week.
In Elk Grove, California, we're being hit so hard by gang activity using these weapons.
They are cold-blooded. They "shed" their facial skin. Essentially, they are reptilians.
It seems that our driver license and young peoples school pictures have been uploaded into a satellite which then these criminals can download our 3-d face template onto themselves as a framing tool. No pun intended.

So you think it was some kind of tech done? That's truly a nightmare to actually see that done right in front of your face? Were they not human? Were they robots? Were they working for someone? If that's something that you acutally saw with your own eyes maybe if you had a really tiny camera or maybe like spy glasses thats the type of **** you could catch and pass along to someone anonymously.

[Flash]

reptilians and reptilians like beings have been on earth since aons. Gargoyles for example, aren't they reptilian like?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/fb/0b/23fb0b9d34f1d12627f21fb6ae2f75f4--gargoyle-tattoo-gothic-gargoyles.jpg

An then there is those statues of .... reptilians... I have seen in some muséums in England, to say the least where Simon Parkes used to live lollll. Here is a piece but there were another piece in Whitby museum that was a bipedal almost human looking reptilian, no kidding. I cannot find it on the web.I was kind of immerse in these reptilian stories when there and was flaberghasted when i saw that old historical statuette in the museum with the gargoyles.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7c/2a/45/7c2a4580562ebe00817b2007b4c4785c.jpg

[Spellbound]

The original V series on TV back in the 80's revealed ET to be Reptilian. That's where I first became acquainted with the concept.

Dave - Toronto

[CurEus]

I have read accounts of persons with multiple personalities changing eye colour and displaying drastic changes in facial features and physique, posture and gait. Although some very gifted actors can very effectively "mimic" others it does not seem to be to the extent reported above. I wonder....if my personality were "overridden" if I would "look" the same. My features are the culmination of my expressions and reactions over many years. Some are "set" where others are more fluid likes smiles. If I were in suddenly in another body...could it actually hurt to use facial muscles that were never used before?

I recall someone posting a while back of an account where someone ran into the "same" face worn by 2 different reptilians, do they have a limited repertoire in their hologram programs perhaps? Elsewhere it was mentioned that reptilians despise tobacco and lose their facial illusions/masks when in smoky environments.

[uzn]

Here a good Collection of Reptilian depictions from the middle east in Stone done by Vlad9vt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7jvM6siltA

Some reptilian looking Statures from Japan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNU0UV7TlEs

[Rawhide68]

According to Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa a reptilian extraterrestrial race has controlled the world for thousands of years.

I think it´s either the the source from where David Icke got the idea of the reptilians, or plainly confirmation of his own experiences.

There are good reptilians and bad ones just like humans in my opinion.

XfJzDVM3j9Y

[lunaflare]

Given my reaction to statues, drawings and figurines, I feel certain my nervous system could not handle having a reptilian encounter...

Barbara Merciniak wrote extensively about reptilian/dragon like beings in her book, "Bringers of the Dawn".
This was published in the early 1990s.

[thunder24]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20535-Disputing-Reptilian-Shapeshifters-Care-to-Meet-One you will be interested in this jayren

first hand account by former member king anthony of forum member persephonewilliow

[Jayren]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20535-Disputing-Reptilian-Shapeshifters-Care-to-Meet-One you will be interested in this jayren

first hand account by former member king anthony of forum member persephonewilliow

She has alien DNA, she's more than likely a hybrid. So then that makes me think about some of the people we see on TV with changing eyes or when you watch those people on youtube with shapeshifting eyes it makes you wonder if they even know there eyes are changing, that changes my perspective on a lot of things that these people are not aliens in human bodies but just hybrids and probably don't even know about it. I mean some aliens will use cloaking devices to appear human or probably can appear human by shapeshifting but "demon eyes" "shapeshifting eyes" she feels her own eyes feeling themselves and thats when the transformation occurs, what if most of these celebrities politicians that we see with shapeshifting eyes are just like that, this opens up a whole new book of discoveries, this can be documented by using her. We can actually probably film this as a real thing and delve deeper into it. Is she still on project avalon?

[Foxie Loxie]

uzn & Rawhide68....Thanks so much for the videos. It is wonderful to be able to keep learning!! :Party:

[thunder24]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20535-Disputing-Reptilian-Shapeshifters-Care-to-Meet-One you will be interested in this jayren

first hand account by former member king anthony of forum member persephonewilliow

She has alien DNA, she's more than likely a hybrid. So then that makes me think about some of the people we see on TV with changing eyes or when you watch those people on youtube with shapeshifting eyes it makes you wonder if they even know there eyes are changing, that changes my perspective on a lot of things that these people are not aliens in human bodies but just hybrids and probably don't even know about it. I mean some aliens will use cloaking devices to appear human or probably can appear human by shapeshifting but "demon eyes" "shapeshifting eyes" she feels her own eyes feeling themselves and thats when the transformation occurs, what if most of these celebrities politicians that we see with shapeshifting eyes are just like that, this opens up a whole new book of discoveries, this can be documented by using her. We can actually probably film this as a real thing and delve deeper into it. Is she still on project avalon?

i have not seen her post in a long time...and i am about positive KingAnthony is not in contact with her anymore...

[Innocent Warrior]

Here's what Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians) has on the origins of the conspiracy theory -


Michael Barkun, Professor of political science at Syracuse University, posits that the idea of a reptilian conspiracy originated in the fiction of Conan the Barbarian creator Robert E. Howard. The first appearance of "serpent men" in literature was in Howard's story, "The Shadow Kingdom", published in Weird Tales in August 1929. This story drew on Theosophical ideas of the "lost worlds" of Atlantis and Lemuria, particularly Helena Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine, with its reference to "'dragon-men' who once had a mighty civilization on a Lemurian continent".[5] Howard's "serpent men" were described as humanoid with human bodies but snake heads, able to imitate real humans at will, who lived in hiding in underground passages, using their shapechanging and mind control abilities to infiltrate humanity.[6] Clark Ashton Smith used Howard's "serpent men" in his stories, as well as themes from H. P. Lovecraft, and he, Howard and Lovecraft together laid the basis for the Cthulhu Mythos.[7] In the 1940s, a non-fiction writer, Maurice Doreal, wrote a pamphlet entitled "Mysteries of the Gobi" which described a "serpent race" that had "bodies like man but...heads...like a great snake" and an ability to take true human form.[8] These creatures also appeared in Doreal's poem, "The Emerald Tablets", in which he claimed the titular tablets were written by "Thoth, an Atlantean Priest king". Barkun asserts that "in all likelihood", Doreal's ideas came from "The Shadow Kingdom", and that in turn, "The Emerald Tablets" formed the basis for David Icke's book, Children of the Matrix.[9]

[turiya]

I had previously made this video in 2015. It is based on Chris Thomas' information that he's provided through his several books and on-line pdf essays that he's put on the internet... The 'Reptilian' does have an origin that resides in a parallel universe. The entities within that universe had the ability to read the Akashic of their universe... they found that their universe was coming to an end.

So, in an attempt to prolong their existence, they made an attempt to build a wormhole to another universe where they could prolong their lives... Unfortuately, the 'other' universe that their wormhole connected with was our Universe. The wormhole opened as an explosive event. Chris goes on to explain that when this happened, it just so happened to effect some 33,000 souls that were transiting from the Galactic core towards Earth to take on a physical body through a human birth. These souls were caught up in the blast. Many souls were lost, and its not certain where they ended up. But a few thousand souls ended up coming to Earth and taking on a physical life as a human being. These souls were kind of like 'infected' with the Reptilian energy that prevailed within this other universe.

One of the first of these infected souls is historically known as Alexander The Great. An individual that wanted to conquer the whole Earth. Something that is characteristic of the Reptilian energy...

I've attempted to put the story, as Chris tells it, in the following video... Have a look... (its a 31 minute video)...


Chris Thomas On Reptilians & From
Where This Concept Has Arisen
(Published on Aug 27, 2015)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOdFvukqtds

[turiya]

Sorry - seems the Server malfunctioned - and caused a double post when I was in edit mode... please delete - thank you

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I have met reptilians while I was dreaming. Some (I interpreted them as being snakes) threatened me and I killed most of them.

In another dream, a biped reptilian showed up, held a knife to his chest and dared me to push it in. Feeling only indifference, no fear, I did not.

In another dream, as I was going to sleep, I asked to see my multi-dimensional selves. I approached a window to another room. In that room was a biped reptillian who looked like he was from the movie "Creature From the Black Lagoon". We both drifted to the window. In the plane of the open window we touched forefingers. I still have my finger so he must have been friendly.

In another dream, a lady friend took me to see a shaman who was smoking a pipe on a dark night. He gave the pipe to me and I smoked. Immediately I found myself walking down a dimly lit path. An extremely large brown snake put his 18 inch wide head under my arm and I felt much love. Further down the path, a larger black snake put his head under my arm. I felt even more love than I did with the first. For years after that experience, whenever I told the story tears would still flow. It was a very loving and very emotional experience.

[Caliban]

I have met reptilians while I was dreaming. Some (I interpreted them as being snakes) threatened me and I killed most of them.

In another dream, a biped reptilian showed up, held a knife to his chest and dared me to push it in. Feeling only indifference, no fear, I did not.

In another dream, as I was going to sleep, I asked to see my multi-dimensional selves. I approached a window to another room. In that room was a biped reptillian who looked like he was from the movie "Creature From the Black Lagoon". We both drifted to the window. In the plane of the open window we touched forefingers. I still have my finger so he must have been friendly.

In another dream, a lady friend took me to see a shaman who was smoking a pipe on a dark night. He gave the pipe to me and I smoked. Immediately I found myself walking down a dimly lit path. An extremely large brown snake put his 18 inch wide head under my arm and I felt much love. Further down the path, a larger black snake put his head under my arm. I felt even more love than I did with the first. For years after that experience, whenever I told the story tears would still flow. It was a very loving and very emotional experience.

Wow, beautiful experiences.... unforgettable....

I think "reptilian" energy, snakes, lizards, etc are part of the earth and part of Us. The whole Icke reptilian thing seems like a visitation as described in turiya's post above. So we mix them up and all the reptiles tend to get a "bad name." Obviously, per Ron here, and Mama Ayahuasca, that's not the whole truth ;)

[Flash]

I like Chris Thomas as a person but the problem with what he says are the in congruencies I find at times. And this time around the venue of the infected souls with thirst for absolute power extended to all would date from Alexander the great who was a conquistador of the bloodiest kind

However, this would omit many wars previous to his birth, namely the hittites in Anatolia thousands of years prior, the Roman Empire conquests prior to 300 BC, the pharaonic wars, etc

I do think human beings may be infected and have a war sickness, but truly, how do you explain those discrepancies?


I had previously made this video in 2015. It is based on Chris Thomas' information that he's provided through his several books and on-line pdf essays that he's put on the internet... The 'Reptilian' does have an origin that resides in a parallel universe. The entities within that universe had the ability to read the Akashic of their universe... they found that their universe was coming to an end.

So, in an attempt to prolong their existence, they made an attempt to build a wormhole to another universe where they could prolong their lives... Unfortuately, the 'other' universe that their wormhole connected with was our Universe. The wormhole opened as an explosive event. Chris goes on to explain that when this happened, it just so happened to effect some 33,000 souls that were transiting from the Galactic core towards Earth to take on a physical body through a human birth. These souls were caught up in the blast. Many souls were lost, and its not certain where they ended up. But a few thousand souls ended up coming to Earth and taking on a physical life as a human being. These souls were kind of like 'infected' with the Reptilian energy that prevailed within this other universe.

One of the first of these infected souls is historically known as Alexander The Great. An individual that wanted to conquer the whole Earth. Something that is characteristic of the Reptilian energy...

I've attempted to put the story, as Chris tells it, in the following video... Have a look... (its a 31 minute video)...


Chris Thomas On Reptilians & From
Where This Concept Has Arisen
(Published on Aug 27, 2015)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOdFvukqtds

[Lookingforrealtruth]

It's not about the appearance its about what is on the inside that matters.

[uzn]

Here's what Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians) has on the origins of the conspiracy theory -


Michael Barkun, Professor of political science at Syracuse University, posits that the idea of a reptilian conspiracy originated in the fiction of Conan the Barbarian creator Robert E. Howard. The first appearance of "serpent men" in literature was in Howard's story, "The Shadow Kingdom", published in Weird Tales in August 1929. This story drew on Theosophical ideas of the "lost worlds" of Atlantis and Lemuria, particularly Helena Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine, with its reference to "'dragon-men' who once had a mighty civilization on a Lemurian continent".[5] Howard's "serpent men" were described as humanoid with human bodies but snake heads, able to imitate real humans at will, who lived in hiding in underground passages, using their shapechanging and mind control abilities to infiltrate humanity.[6] Clark Ashton Smith used Howard's "serpent men" in his stories, as well as themes from H. P. Lovecraft, and he, Howard and Lovecraft together laid the basis for the Cthulhu Mythos.[7] In the 1940s, a non-fiction writer, Maurice Doreal, wrote a pamphlet entitled "Mysteries of the Gobi" which described a "serpent race" that had "bodies like man but...heads...like a great snake" and an ability to take true human form.[8] These creatures also appeared in Doreal's poem, "The Emerald Tablets", in which he claimed the titular tablets were written by "Thoth, an Atlantean Priest king". Barkun asserts that "in all likelihood", Doreal's ideas came from "The Shadow Kingdom", and that in turn, "The Emerald Tablets" formed the basis for David Icke's book, Children of the Matrix.[9]

In his slightly deranged theory: Robert E. Howard gets inspired by Blavatsky´s Secret Doctrine, why is Michael Barkun saying it all originated in Robert E. Howards works ? But maybe this Professor is not aquainted with the fine and ancient literature of the ancient Indians and Babylonians.

[Molly4US]

Jayren asks: "So you think it was some kind of tech done? That's truly a nightmare to actually see that done right in front of your face? Were they not human? Were they robots? Were they working for someone? If that's something that you acutally saw with your own eyes maybe if you had a really tiny camera or maybe like spy glasses thats the type of **** you could catch and pass along to someone anonymously"


They were people, they were using a device to shock and discredit the victim/witness by changing their appearance in a way which has not been made common knowledge as being in existence. But, yes, they were just low-life criminals and gang-members with a toy.

[Molly4US]

Here a good Collection of Reptilian depictions from the middle east in Stone done by Vlad9vt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7jvM6siltA

Some reptilian looking Statures from Japan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNU0UV7TlEs


Perhaps the facial form of "foot-binding"?