Stan Romanek?

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUBNrl-nJD4

I see he has been arrested on child porn charges too.

http://www.examiner.com/article/stanley-romanek-of-ufo-fame-arrested-and-faces-child-porn-charges?cid=rss

[Atlas]

I don't know what is Stan Romanek's agenda but what I know is that ETs do not look through windows the way they did at his house.




Listen to this in itunes and skip forward to the times i point out.
My mouth dropped open in absolute shock and disgust at the stupidty of this fakiness.

Stan Romanek Abduction Evidence 1/22/2010 - Open Minds Radio on Blog Talk Radio (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ufo_radio/2010/01/23/stan-romanek-abduction-evidence)

At 21:11 you here a noise in the back ground which is Stan playing with a recorded computerized voice when he thinks he is 'off air' during a short brake. He must be checking it is working.

At 29:28 you here Stan use his recorded voice which says the same sentence as before but clearer. You can sense in his voice before he plays it that he waiting for the moment to use it.

What a total joke!

(source (http://www.theparacast.com/forum/threads/stan-romanek-caught-faking-shocking.6234/))

[jackovesk]

Stan........Stan........Stan..........What on earth were you thinking...? :crazy_pilot:

If I didn't know better, I rekon you had yourself a little Scooby-Doo :hat:before you went on air...:yes4:

Talk about a ((GOTCHA)) moment...:photo:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27evSVwjzzI

PS - Unbeknown to you Stan, unless you come clean or unless you can produce a (Live 'Alien') on Nation TV. I'm sorry to say your UFO Career is (FINISHED)...:lever:

[MR Mojo]

Conveniently finding a lot of child porn on computers lately.

Just sayin'

[Agape]

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This is one of Barry's 'fun videos' on the topic .. but if it was filmed in dark and low light , you might also believe it's real ;)

The only good thing about Stan Romanek case in my opinion was that passing polygraph test does not install a direct proof of evidence and your mind power is enough to accomplish the feat .

[Maia Gabrial]

I don't know what is Stan Romanek's agenda but what I know is that ETs do not look through windows the way they did at his house.

HOW do you know that aliens don't do this, buares? Many people have made similar claims of seeing the aliens poking their noses in windows, watching from tree lines, etc. It might just be that they want to watch people in their natural habitats....

Stan's THE most documented of all ufo contactees. Strange things go on around him, even his guests have experienced them. He's been assaulted multiple times to keep quiet. Strange people come around his home to take away irrefutable evidence. So, it doesn't surprise me that the debunkers are still going at him. They've tried and failed....

Just a reminder to all debunkers: if you have no evidence to back your skepticism, then you have nothing.... Not believing something is NOT good enough. Doesn't prove anything either....

The sad thing is that most Experiencers have had to face nonbelievers' mockeries for a long time. Too bad.... How will we ever be ready for Disclosure when people are still doing this?

[Agape]

I don't know what is Stan Romanek's agenda but what I know is that ETs do not look through windows the way they did at his house.

HOW do you know that aliens don't do this, buares? Many people have made similar claims of seeing the aliens poking their noses in windows, watching from tree lines, etc. It might just be that they want to watch people in their natural habitats....

Stan's THE most documented of all ufo contactees. Strange things go on around him, even his guests have experienced them. He's been assaulted multiple times to keep quiet. Strange people come around his home to take away irrefutable evidence. So, it doesn't surprise me that the debunkers are still going at him. They've tried and failed....

Just a reminder to all debunkers: if you have no evidence to back your skepticism, then you have nothing.... Not believing something is NOT good enough. Doesn't prove anything either....

The sad thing is that most Experiencers have had to face nonbelievers' mockeries for a long time. Too bad.... How will we ever be ready for Disclosure when people are still doing this?


I'm ( we're ) not debunkers, ok ? Right . 'Most documented' does not ring true bells with me .
ET's are elusive . They do not behave like toys . No , they don't . Stan and others can befool lots and lots .. and lots of people with claims and 'evidence' that is attractive enough to common man who had never experienced real ET contact . How many people did , actually .. very few .

It's equally detrimental to the 'disclosure' whatever movement and truth seekers community and ufo-logy not to speak about those very bad looks from hard core scientific community if people are trying to pass things for real or even 'little more real' than they are .

Sorry to say that .. but I'm direct witness, not a debunker . But there's 90% hoaxes to less than 10% reality when it comes to 'alien stories' on the web .

All I can say .. wishing him the best :angel:

[Atlas]

"Poking their noses in windows" is very different from "watching from tree lines". Only ghosts are seen behind windows, not aliens. Large-eyed aliens are reported to have a very good vision, they wouldn't need to get that close to the window to observe him "in his natural habitat" unless they want to be seen. In my opinion, Stan Romanek's small grey was nothing but a puppet. I would love Stan Romanek's small grey to be real, unfortunately, it just ain't.

[jackovesk]

I don't know what is Stan Romanek's agenda but what I know is that ETs do not look through windows the way they did at his house.

HOW do you know that aliens don't do this, buares? Many people have made similar claims of seeing the aliens poking their noses in windows, watching from tree lines, etc. It might just be that they want to watch people in their natural habitats....

Stan's THE most documented of all ufo contactees. Strange things go on around him, even his guests have experienced them. He's been assaulted multiple times to keep quiet. Strange people come around his home to take away irrefutable evidence. So, it doesn't surprise me that the debunkers are still going at him. They've tried and failed....

Just a reminder to all debunkers: if you have no evidence to back your skepticism, then you have nothing.... Not believing something is NOT good enough. Doesn't prove anything either....

The sad thing is that most Experiencers have had to face nonbelievers' mockeries for a long time. Too bad.... How will we ever be ready for Disclosure when people are still doing this?

G'day Maia Gabrial,

I don't know whether I should take you on, due to your new Powerful Avatar...Looks good...:thumb:

I here (exactly) what your saying as do many others...:yes4:

However that doesn't excuse Stan playing bizzare tricks with a pen and flashdrive...:nono:

He just opened himself up to a world of pain on a professional level due to his antics, he only has himself to blame...:yes4:

[Limor Wolf]

This video shows a very unfocused man. whistleblowers and contactees/abductees are tageted these days in ways that most here can not imagine by reading only a few of the above mocking comments. discreminating Stan Romanek and his wife's testimony only by this quite confused video is not good enough or smart, as Maia Gabriel said - "He's been assaulted multiple times to keep quiet."

The only quiet that is worth keeping now is apparently from our side

Very best,

Limor

[Atlas]

Posted by william zabel (http://www.midnighthollow.com/2010/11/stan-romanek-terrible-acting/), 1-22-2012:

"I have met stan Romanek, his sister and his wife. I also know of the group of people who are running Stan and both are ex military intelligence. One is Rick Nelson of the Paranormal Forum who claims he runs the largest paranormal research groupin the world. Rick is by his own admissionex Naval Intelligence and is the one that actually handles all of Stan’s affairs. The other guys stays in the shadows a bit but is responsible for trashing other paranormal forums in Denver who question Stan’s experiences. His name is Bob Bixler and he former Army G-2, once again by his own admission. Both of these clowns act as fronts for Stan to keep critics away from him and their operation. Both of the above mentioned men also signed sworn statements to MUFON about Stan’s experiences and theirs while with him at his home.

I saw the original video of the alien in the window at the Jefferson County, Colorado open space meeting hall three years ago. I got in because I knew Stan’s sister, but if Stan had known I was there he would have flipped out since he did not trust me as I work in the film industry and am very good with 3-D animation. If you had seen the video I had you know it was done in a computer program. The original has the camera following the alien through the wall of Stan’s house and up a hill (which his house does not have). All the while all you see is a green grid around the alien and under it. If you have worked in 3_d then you know this the artificial grid of a 3-D world. Also one should question whe neither Stan not his sister will use their real last name which is Dornak. Both Stan and his sister grew up on a military base in North Dakota.

Another b.s element to his story is claiming that somebody show at him while he was driving on Federal boulevard and chased him as well. he claims to have police reports attesting to this but has never released them. Also his so-called witnesses are never named. This is a b.s story to sell bookspure and simple. Don’t buy all the witnesses that made reports to MUFON since they are all Stan’s friends and attend Naval Intelligence agent Rick Nelson’s Paranormal Forum.

Also the reason they won’t show all of the footage they claim to have is that they are trying to get a film deal in Hollywood, which I know is not going to happen.
Also this month (January 2012) they are having in invite up to their house here in Colorado buy you have to be invited and you have to be a true believer or your not getting in. This they said at Rick’slast meeting. Interesting huh?"

[mojo]

There's definitely procedures that will help prove a case. Stan will be able to dismiss claims of hoax by continued documentation over time. There's no rush to judgement when history can be your guide. Sooner or later footage will help weigh in favor or not.

[ghostrider]

I don't know what is Stan Romanek's agenda but what I know is that ETs do not look through windows the way they did at his house.

HOW do you know that aliens don't do this, buares? Many people have made similar claims of seeing the aliens poking their noses in windows, watching from tree lines, etc. It might just be that they want to watch people in their natural habitats....

Stan's THE most documented of all ufo contactees. Strange things go on around him, even his guests have experienced them. He's been assaulted multiple times to keep quiet. Strange people come around his home to take away irrefutable evidence. So, it doesn't surprise me that the debunkers are still going at him. They've tried and failed....

Just a reminder to all debunkers: if you have no evidence to back your skepticism, then you have nothing.... Not believing something is NOT good enough. Doesn't prove anything either....

The sad thing is that most Experiencers have had to face nonbelievers' mockeries for a long time. Too bad.... How will we ever be ready for Disclosure when people are still doing this?

sorry , have to dis-agree , the most documented ufo contactee is edward albert meier ... has anyone else had , sound recordings, metal samples , clear daytime photos before computers and photoshop , over 70 yrs of face to face , traveling to another universe , back in time , forward in time , 100 eyewitness, 4 different people with 4 different cameras photograph the same object , not to mention 26,000 pages of notes , over 1,200 photos , and predicted both Iraq wars , the coming of credit cards, computers, the internet , the death of the popes , 9-11 , and btw shot ET's ray gun through a tree for miles , and had 26 attempts on their life , one while Wendell stevens was present , or took a picture from inside a spaceship , or took a picture of a spaceship parked over your van , over your house , over your farm . or had ET lay his hand on your car and his handprint years later is still burnt into the metal ???

[Kristin]

Right after William Zabel's post is this:

Kevin hardy says:

"My name is Kevin hardy, I live in Iowa with my wife and kids. Stan has contacted me after he had seen what I captured in my sons room on video audio and photos 1 month after our son claimed to see a UFO at his window in our 102 year old home, we dismissed his story until a month later, when we captures what we did we do not want to sell this story , it should be seen by all of us with no money gained on our end, it’s real, it happened to us, but we didn’t get any messages from an alien, we just want to know what they were doing with our children. Anyone who wishes to see my photos and hear my story I will share everything for free. xsouthomahax@ gmail.com"

Seems to me that we are very far from proving a fraud here either way. Keep in mind that many people who are close to the truth also get blindsided by false accusations. Let's take care not to fall into assumptions. If you look for it, you can find a video or article debunking just about anything. I'm remaining open yet skeptical as usual.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Kristin]

This is the Romanek's response to the alligations:

Lisa Romanek: Hi Jeffery, Unfortunately this is Stan. We have been cooperating with this investigation, we don’t have a choice. What I will tell you is this. Stan didn’t do this. The charge us not what the paper is saying, the media always messes it up. The charge its for possession of child porn. Luckily we have years of proof of the hacking and remote access of our computer system. It is or belief that is how they planted whatever is there. We have not been made aware, as we still do not have an attorney in place to advise us off what’s happening. But we will be taking the UFO stuff into the court room!!!!
Be well…and thanks for asking with it attack as many others have done.

Good morning friends. I want to make a brief comment to you all regarding what has been happening the past couple of days.
If you haven’t yet seen the article you will in time. And I refuse to share the twisted story of Stans arrest that was ran in the paper on my FB page. It is everywhere…

I will give you the basics…Last April a search warrant was served.On this past Wednesday a warrant was issued, Stan cooperated by turning himself in. The charge as far as we know (without having an attorney in place until next week) is of possession of…NOT distribution. He was released Thursday, and can not access internet for the time being…as a condition of his release.

Anyone who follows Stan is already aware of the harrassment, break-ins, hacking and remote access of our computers for starters that we have experienced.

It is our belief, that whoever has been accessing our system also left behind traces to verify the Office of Homeland Security tip that the police department received.

For those of you who have reached out for answers with love and concern … I hope this helps you understand what’s happening.

For those of you who live in fear and function in hate..please just unfriend us both and do not make this terrifying situation any worse with your ignorant threats and ugly statements. They will not be responded to and will be deleted and reported as abusive.

We will be taking UFOlogy into the courtroom. We know that this has EVERTING… to do with our being outspoken about the ET/UFO reality!

Thank you for your love and continued support…

Lisa

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/02/lisa-romanek-wife-of-alien-abductee-stan-romanek-responds-about-child-porn-allegations-2464402.html

[Atlas]

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I met Stan recently and had a couple of chats with him and Lisa and he was amazed that I was able to describe some things to him without him telling me, he's a realy nice guy in person but he is selling aswell , and people who are selling are usually pushed for more and more information that sometimes isn't there

[mojo]

Trying to seperate the charges mentioned above from the story of contact. In his 2009 address at the UFO congress he shares a story of ongoing contact. Yet watching the recent video below it does not appear to be someone that has had ongoing strangeness happening for a lengthy time, typically contactees become somewhat conditioned to the event and know what to expect but this sounds like that of someones first initial experience. watch and listen as he narrates the video below.
Thirdphase reporting is a whole nother story...;)

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[Alexander]

Seems to me that we are very far from proving a fraud here either way. Keep in mind that many people who are close to the truth also get blindsided by false accusations. Let's take care not to fall into assumptions. If you look for it, you can find a video or article debunking just about anything. I'm remaining open yet skeptical as usual.
From the Heart,
Kristin

Well said. The accusation proves nothing either way. I'm reading Stan's book Messages now. Prior to that I had seen his videos online telling his story. There is something compelling about his account, especially some of the recordings of the little girl's voice.

However, I also sense something is not right. Maybe he is embellishing his stories, exaggerating some information, etc in order to make it more "sellable". That would truly be unfortunate if he's doing that, as it would cheapen the genuine message. And there's always the possibility of manipulation. It's hard to say for sure.

[Agape]

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I met Stan recently and had a couple of chats with him and Lisa and he was amazed that I was able to describe some things to him without him telling me, he's a realy nice guy in person but he is selling aswell , and people who are selling are usually pushed for more and more information that sometimes isn't there

Yes the topic itself warrants great sensitivity . If you know what you're dealing with .. you can tell , almost from glance and it's actually good to trust your intuition. Years ago , without personal confidence in these matters I'd not bother to comment .

But when things happen and you have to TALK about it and see how difficult it is to TALK about it, no matter in what form .. facing not some '25 years oaths' but millennia old tabu imposed on human society, preserved by all the ancient and modern hierarchies, authorities, speaking against 'their common sense and common minds' because 'no man with common sense says that' ,

you see even the 3 and 4 star generals and navy men choking and speaking in low voice , and pilots and people who have seen something,
no matter how much .. if real it's always 'big' and bigger it is the more difficult it turns to speak about it.

I don't need anyone convincing me whether ET life exists or they're present or not . I was pushed out to the media stream 'to talk in open' despite all I needed was professional help .

To this day , no stupid joe can understand what has happened . The whole cover up is too thick to see through .

But people who speak of their 'contacts' in easy joe manner, bread n butter, no matter they call themselves 'contactees' , abductees' or anyone else and write volumes of literature and produce materials on go have certainly 'not been there' .

If they were they'd behave differently . My 2 cents .


I wish I had even 'hope' that the truth can ever come out in pure form .



Not trusting the lynching mob either .


:angel:

[Maia Gabrial]

Regarding the possession of child porn, how many prominent people have already been set up or almost set up for the same thing just to shut them up? It seems that TPTW will do anything to prevent the truth from getting out. And they're using the sheep to police itself....

Any chances that my experiences will be believed? My stories are almost as interesting as Stan and Lisa's....

[Maia Gabrial]

But people who speak of their 'contacts' in easy joe manner, bread n butter, no matter they call themselves 'contactees' , abductees' or anyone else and write volumes of literature and produce materials on go have certainly 'not been there' .

I can agree with you, Agape. But everyone reacts differently to situations, though. Some can hide their upset better than others. Stan has experienced alot in his life. So, he's had time to adjust. Unusual stuff happens all the time wherever he is....

But you're right, most people would be freaked out by this kind of stuff....

[Maia Gabrial]

"Poking their noses in windows" is very different from "watching from tree lines". Only ghosts are seen behind windows, not aliens. Large-eyed aliens are reported to have a very good vision, they wouldn't need to get that close to the window to observe him "in his natural habitat" unless they want to be seen. In my opinion, Stan Romanek's small grey was nothing but a puppet. I would love Stan Romanek's small grey to be real, unfortunately, it just ain'

Stan's so called puppet is very similar to the one I saw IN my kitchen several months ago.... Same shape, size and coloring. What I'm saying is that it's not accurate to say that all aliens act the same. SOME of them may very well want to get as close as they can to us without interfering. Or abducting us.... Just watch us,. It may be because the majority of people would freak out! (And maybe these particulary aliens are tired of seeing screaming, frightened humans all the time.... That's just my opinion there...)

[Maia Gabrial]

Hey Jackovesk! So, you like my avatar? That would never deter you from speaking your mind or truth. :rockon:

I think because of the times, most people, if they pay attention will start to see strange things. 4D entities are becoming more visible. I've noticed that I'm NEVER alone now. There's always some being hanging around me. I think in Stan's case, his visitors are more playful. It could be his "daughters" doing it. Lately, I've had things disappear from where I knew they should have been. I think they're getting a kick out of watching me tear up my apartment looking for these things. I still haven't found some things....

Well, anyway, are any of us experts in multidimensional beings or their behavior? They're probably just as unpredictable as he Earth humans are....

[Curiosity729]

Hey guys,

I am actually new to this website and finally just had the time to sit down and post a thread. I've followed many channels on Youtube, watched shows on the History Channel, and listened to many different and outlandish theories on the internet. Specifically in respects to UFO's, ET's, contact...so on and so forth. One of the biggest things that has sparked my interest as of late is a gentleman by the name of Stan Romenack. Some may have heard of this guy since he just recently had a doc released on Netflix. I knew about Stan waaaay before the Netflix...thoughts on that? Do you think that stuff was planted on his computer? Do you think he said too much? What of this English woman calling all the time talking of Starseed?


"I am curious..."

[Noelle]

Welcome, Curiosity! I am still new to Stan and his experiences. A few weeks ago, I came across his equation and a discussion about it. My husband watched the documentary and said it was frightening. That was enough for me to say "I'll skip this one." Who knows. Maybe I'll change my mind in the future.

[mojo]

Here is an observation and can only speak about it being out of the norm. Thirdphaseofmoon did an interview on Stan. In that interview it showed Stan outside filming an orb and then running to his neighbors to tell them very excited almost too much, like someone seeing an ufo the first time. The footage was non-exciting, and strange acting from what you would expect from someone that witnessed ETs up close in their window.

edit update. I was thinking of two stories sorry..

[Mike]

It appears he took a lie detector test and failed. This is discussed about halfway thru the article:
https://jayvay.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/stan-romaneks-still-here-why-dont-we-want-better/


...aaaaand here's the kicker. Stan was arrested on child pornography charges:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/17/stan-romanek-child-pornog_n_4964459.html

[ghostrider]

Think about it, research him, follow your own instincts ... I think the guy is less than honest, Ma I watched a video interview with him and he didn't know the camera was rolling and he tossed an object into the air and acted surprised when it knocked books off the shelf behind him ... he had just stated paranormal stuff happens in his home all the time ...

[Innocent Warrior]

https://s4.postimg.org/pm04i8p2l/image.jpg

[Spiral]

I think he is a fake, he does not seem genuine & the things he says & how he says them is at odds with real abductees.

There is the possibility that he may have had some limited experience, got famous (amongst ufo enthusiasts on the internet) & then had to feed disinfo, either for protection (not that likely) or to further the narrative & maintain his "position" in the UFO pantheon of "celebrities".

[Bill Ryan]

His trial is on 31 July, in three days time. One of several audios that tell the story:

From UFO Buster Radio - UFO Report 20: Stan Romanek, What Happened? (https://player.fm/series/ufo-buster-radio/ubr-ufo-report-20-stan-romanek-what-happened)

http://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/12291785/ubr_ufo_report_20_stan_romanek_what_happened.mp3





On this episode - Born: 1962, Denver, Stan’s story is either real evidence of ETs and hybridization of the species or a major hoax that was stopped by a sick need to collect child pornography.

Accused of the heinous act while living in Loveland Colorado, On Feb. 13, 2014, Romanek was arrested on charges of possessing and distributing child pornography. Romanek's wife, Lisa, has said "Anyone who follows Stan is already aware of the harassment, break-ins, hacking and remote access of our computers for starters that we have experienced" and "We will be taking UFOlogy into the courtroom. We know that this has EVERYTHING to do with our being outspoken about the ET/UFO reality."

His jury trial is scheduled for July 31, 2017.

ExtraOrdinary: The Stan Romanek Story was released on Netflix on July 3rd.

Stan Romanek's Real Alien In The Window “Boo” Video


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_gCqkyz9M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_gCqkyz9M)[/URL]

Articles on PC virus that adds illegal content to computers:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/11/09/framed-for-child-porn-by-pc-virus.html (http://keepvid.com/?url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_gCqkyz9M)
[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/11/business/acquitted-man-says-virus-put-pornography-on-computer.html
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/can-a-virus-put-porn-on-your-pc-1.407504
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/06/why_would_a_virus_look_at_kiddie_porn.html
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-siciliano/why-is-child-pornography_b_356539.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-siciliano/why-is-child-pornography_b_356539.html

[Curiosity729]

I wouldn't say the doc was terrifying so to say, but it was for sure really interesting. Some of the footage that is brought to light is heavily questioned. Especially his footage that he captured of the Grey's around his house. I really found it interesting, you should give it a looksie.

[Curiosity729]

I also agree that some if not most of his footage seemed rather staged, I did though find the fake siding company story very interesting though....very interesting...

[Bayareamom]

I am not stating here that I believe Stan is guilty; his innocence or guilt will, I suppose, be borne out during his upcoming trial.

There seems to be an overall perception on many people's minds that experiencers are free from human foibles; that they are perhaps not the norm for what many would call simple, and perhaps normal, human frailties. I would submit that this just is not a true perception. I can recall viewing a video wherein a panel of abduction 'experts' were in the midst of answering various questions from their audience. Dr. Karla Turner sat on this panel, as did Dr. Richard Boylan and a few others of whom I have forgotten. One very astute gentleman in the audience stood up and asked the panel's members how many of them smoked, how many of them drank (even just a little), etc., so forth. Several of them raised their hands, including Dr. Turner. This audience member then stated that he had asked these questions, because he wanted to know if abductees were just simply ordinary people, with normal, every day flaws, or if they were persons of very high moral character (not that some of them weren't).

What I'm trying to say is that even IF Stan should be found guilty, this does not necessarily negate the possibility that he's an experiencer. I have viewed his documentary (I have the DVD). I have viewed it on several occasions. I have read Lisa Romanek's book (at least 3 times). She's a lovely person and speaks with absolute candor throughout her book re the issues/events which have plagued their family when all of this started with Stan.

I do believe Stan is an experiencer. Far too many debunkers have completely disregarded the many issues surrounding Stan's story which give credibility to his story, i.e., the equations which Stan could write, both during and after his several regressions; the equations written on the wall of his step-son's bedroom, written by Lisa's son, after having had one particular abduction; the mysterious robotic type phone calls coming into their home on both a daily and nightly basis, etc.

There is also the rather significant issue as to Stan's knee injury. The documentary clearly shows the diagnostic work up from his surgeon, clearly stating the diagnostics regarding Stan's knee/ligament issues and the fact that he definitely needed surgery and then literally on the morning of the day he was to have his surgery, Stan finds he is able to walk w/o any sort of pain whatsoever. The documentary establishes that something quite extraordinary occurred to Stan on the night before he was to have his surgery. The film contains the audio of the conversation both Stan and Lisa had with a physician as they discuss the fact that Stan will in fact no longer need his surgery, all the while the surgeon is clearly flummoxed and has absolutely no explanation as to why Stan's knee no longer required surgery.

I think part of the problem with Stan is that he succumbed to what would perhaps be issues with ego and to a certain extent, he felt he needed to supplant his story with ever more exotic stories in order to stay relevant. Outside of his experiences, I don't think most of the community truly knew the real Stan; they knew him as an experiencer with some perhaps amazing stories, but they didn't really KNOW him on a truly personal level.

According to the police warrant, pornographic materials were found on at least two computers in Stan's home. Someone who was using those computers was also found to have had distributed these images to others as well. The Dept. of Homeland Security alerted the police department re the porn images on Stan's computers; I don't believe a police officer planted those images on Stan's hard drives.

In spite of all that has happened, my heart goes out to the Romanek family. By all accounts, Lisa's children seem to be truly lovely and gifted young adults in their own right. I would definitely recommend that anyone who is interested in Stan's story, read Lisa's book.

I cannot impress enough the fact that abductees are not free from human frailties; to somehow arrive at the conclusion that Stan's experiences must all be a huge machinated lie because he may be guilty of the charges against him, is not a logical conclusion. One does not negate the other.

Just my .02, though.

[WTHTLight]

I have met Stan and his wife and I did not feel that he is a TRUE deceiver. I believe he is an experiencer. What many believe that have met and researched his case conclude is there appears that he also was victim of HOAX alien abductions by deep state/USAP groups. ( i.e. Steven Greer and others) The type of porn that was found on their computers are consistent with the type of porn that has been placed on others computers to discredit or ruin them. ( see Bill Ryan's links above) I personally think a lot of Stan's wife and her story makes me feel that there is a REAL story here that is legitimate. It appears to have layers of things that are not legitimate mixed with it. I do not know what to make of Stan and the accusations but I do enjoy him and his family. Maybe my personal feelings cloud my discernment but I urge caution with rush to judgment on this case. My 2 cents. Dr. T

[Bayareamom]

@rehabdoc68:

I completely concur with your above statement. My heart truly does go out to the Romanek family. I can only imagine the stress they now feel, prior to the impending trial. I have never met them, but with much chagrin, in the past, I was once asked to friend Lisa on FB. I didn't follow through with that Friend request simply because of my own personal history with some of these deep state/intel type agencies and I did not want to make things more complicated, for either myself, and/or for the Romanek family. I don't think Lisa understood this, at the time.

But what Lisa also needs to understand (and perhaps she does now) is that lives are truly at stake regarding some of this. I have experienced personal tragedy in my own family because of intelligence connections I cannot discuss in a public venue. But the repercussions for me and for those I love are very, very real and I just didn't want to add to anyone's trauma, by connecting myself in any way, to Stan's own situation.

I know in my heart of hearts that Stan is definitely an experiencer. BUT I also feel in my heart that he's been messed with - in a huge way. I don't necessarily mean with the charges against him, but I suppose that will all come out, sooner or later, after this trial ends.

[Mike]

Ok, I had no idea that child porn could be deposited onto computers with a virus..

It doesn't surprise me really, it's just that I'd never heard of such a thing until now.

Not sure how to feel about all this, but I'm keeping an open mind moving forward..

[Bill Ryan]

This may be relevant:


Attempted setup of Stewart Rhodes and Dan Johnson, with child porn (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61662-Attempted-setup-of-Stewart-Rhodes-and-Dan-Johnson-with-child-porn)

[7alon]

Something I don't get about this ... how does this endanger Rhodes or Johnson? Could they not just delete the offending file and carry on, whether or not they viewed it? Granted, deleting all evidence of a file from one's system might take a bit of technical skill, but given that, what's the problem?

Luke Rudkowski explained this quite well a few weeks ago:

http://infowars.com/attempted-setup-of-luke-rudkowski





Luke has had his computer searched by forensics when going into Canada to cover the G20 when they searched him and interrogated him for hours, something like this could happen again when we come back to the U.S. from travelling Europe.

Had this been the case, even with deleting, they would still find the images. There would be no understanding of the true story and he would be facing a felony charge. Besides that also completely jeopardizing his work, reputation and livelihood.


I found this to be relevant to Stan's child pornography charges. Thank you, Bill. I know I've already said thanks in the other thread, but I believe this is very important.

[Bayareamom]

Stan Romanek is found guilty on the first count of sexual exploitation of children; NOT guilty on SECOND count.

Sentencing to be held in October.

https://twitter.com/bysajahindi?lang=en

[Bill Ryan]

A little more on this, from https://ufowatchdog.blogspot.com/2017/08/verdict-reached-in-stan-romanek.html, yesterday (8 August):

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Alleged alien abductee Stan Romanek's criminal trial concluded and the jury began deliberations on Monday.

Earlier this afternoon the jury found Romanek guilty on one count of sexual exploitation of a child. Romanek was found not guilty on a second charge of distributing child pornography.

The Department of Homeland Security was investigating a larger child pornography case and provided Loveland, Colorado police with information about Romanek allegedly possessing and distributing child pornography.

Loveland police arrested Romanek on February 13, 2014, charging him with possessing and distributing child porn. A search warrant served on Romanek's home resulted in police seizing a laptop computer on which over 300 images of child pornography and video were reportedly discovered. The laptop had Romanek's name engraved on it.

According to an affidavit filed by police, during the execution of the search warrant, Romanek admitted he had seen child pornography on his computer but was unsure of how the images got onto his computer. Romanek and his wife claimed they were the target of hackers because of what they supposedly know about UFOs and aliens.

Romanek pleaded not guilty and the case went to trial before a jury.

While Romanek's wife, Lisa, publicly stated that they would "bring UFOlogy into the courtroom", Romanek's defense attorney did not use UFOs or aliens as part of the defense. Romanek's attorney argued many people had access to Romanek's computer including his wife and step-son.

The case was not without drama. the trial was delayed for over a month while prosecutors provided Romanek's attorney with new evidence they discovered. A former Loveland police officer was accused of tipping off Romanek about the pending search warrant. Romanek's wife spoke before the Loveland, Colorado city council (https://youtu.be/mPkJPz0dxdY) about the lead detective in the case. The detective leading the investigation was discovered to be on a Brady List kept by the prosecutor's office.

The Brady List stems from a precedent setting US Supreme Court case known as Brady v. Maryland. During that case, prosecutors charging a man with murder failed to provide evidence showing the defendant had not committed the murder. The US Supreme Court ruling states that prosecutors and police must turn over all evidence to a defendant including exculpatory evidence. Exculpatory evidence includes knowing when a police officer has been dishonest or has any credibility issues.

In this instance, Loveland police detective Brian Koopman was placed on the district attorney's Brady List after he was accused of lying during a murder case. Koopman faced a felony charge of influencing a public official in the matter, but was found not guilty. Koopman remained employed by Loveland police and his name was placed on the Brady List after the district attorney's office determined he had lied during an investigation. Koopman was also sued for allegedly targeting a man for manufacturing meth, but the meth turned out to be sugar (http://www.9news.com/news/crime/loveland-detective-investigated-for-lying/132396402).



Just prior to the trial, Netflix released a documentary about Romanek's claims of being abducted by extraterrestrials entitled Extraordinary: The Stan Romanek Story (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jGhsaKRDFf0/WYpG13qvN8I/AAAAAAAAAa0/Bj5DZ-Vakwoj6qJsujv7YnZQO06CgeVWwCLcBGAs/s1600/extra.JPG). The company that produced the documentary, J3Films, sold it to Netflix for an undisclosed sum.

The documentary was complete about a month prior to Romanek being arrested and was supposed to stream online via pay-per-view. The film was not released as scheduled and it is likely that Romanek's arrest was the cause of the film's release being postponed.

Romanek is currently free on bond and his sentencing is scheduled for October 19th, 2017 at 3:30PM. The prison term for possessing child pornography in Colorado is 4 to 12 years.

[seehas]

ive seen the doumentary on netflix and i can recommend it, the only thing i knew about romanek before was the video of the "ET" at his window.

the documentary contains alot of other photo and video material filmed by romanek, there is also a creepy video about a humanoid beeing in his house the look and the face remembered me to the travis walton case "fire in the sky", travis was abducted by beeings that used masks maybe to hide their own face.

i belive romanek had real experiences but i also belive these are goverment blackops.