Graham Hancock - Did Mars have a civilisation?

[7alon]

Talks about the world needing to be open to mars having an ancient civilisation, mentions mars would have been once like earth, maybe even nicer. What if Atlantis is related to Mars? Mars, a utopia, destroyed by bombardment.

Oh he also discusses how the Egyptians say they received knowledge from people before them. Inheriting things such has the pyramids etc? This is what I have believed also. I think those pyramids are much older than people think. Many thousands of years older. My guess is.. I dunno it sounds stupid. I'll think that one through more :ROFL:

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[Tintin]

Thanks 7alon. This is interesting and I am currently listening to this; I'm about a quarter of an hour into it at the moment. This sounds like a really old interview. When was this made do you know?

I like Hancock, but, can't help wondering whether he's playing it really safe here - bottled it? - to try and aid sales of his book! I don't mean that at all nastily mind but has he chosen to completely ignore testimony from some bonafide 'blowers' on what's really going on on Mars presently (this is SSP environment I'm talking about) to shift units, because, heaven for fend, that might be a little controversial?! Or was he under pressure from his publisher to get something out to timescale? Anyway, at least he's raising more awareness on Martian matters.

I don't have a mighty problem with him playing it safe as he is a bold soul usually, and has gone where others may fear to tread in the past. But....come on Graham! Granted, I may need to listen right through just in case (and retain the option to contradict this post of mine should he land on contro-ground during the remainder of the broadcast) :bigsmile:

[7alon]

Thanks 7alon. This is interesting and I am currently listening to this; I'm about a quarter of an hour into it at the moment.

I like Hancock, but, can't help wondering whether he's playing it really safe here to try and aid sales of his book! I don't mean that at all nastily mind but has he chosen to completely ignore testimony from some bonafide 'blowers' on what's really going on on Mars presently (this is SSP environment I'm talking about) to shift units, because, heaven for fend, that might be a little controversial?! Or was he under pressure from his publisher to get something out to timescale? Anyway, at least he's raising more awareness on Martian matters.

I don't have a mighty problem with him playing it safe as he is a bold soul usually, and has gone where others may fear to tread in the past. But....come on Graham! Granted, I may need to listen right through just in case (and retain the option to contradict this post of mine should he land on contro-ground during the remainder of the broadcast) :bigsmile:

I suppose that is because he tends to study what he can see. Like artefacts, geology etc.

[Tintin]

Thanks 7alon. This is interesting and I am currently listening to this; I'm about a quarter of an hour into it at the moment.

I like Hancock, but, can't help wondering whether he's playing it really safe here to try and aid sales of his book! I don't mean that at all nastily mind but has he chosen to completely ignore testimony from some bonafide 'blowers' on what's really going on on Mars presently (this is SSP environment I'm talking about) to shift units, because, heaven for fend, that might be a little controversial?! Or was he under pressure from his publisher to get something out to timescale? Anyway, at least he's raising more awareness on Martian matters.

I don't have a mighty problem with him playing it safe as he is a bold soul usually, and has gone where others may fear to tread in the past. But....come on Graham! Granted, I may need to listen right through just in case (and retain the option to contradict this post of mine should he land on contro-ground during the remainder of the broadcast) :bigsmile:

I suppose that is because he tends to study what he can see. Like artefacts, geology etc.

And that is perfectly a good thing to do. Sorry, I've just amended my post and asked the question when was this interview done do you know? It sounds pretty old (he mentions 2000!)

[7alon]

Thanks 7alon. This is interesting and I am currently listening to this; I'm about a quarter of an hour into it at the moment.

I like Hancock, but, can't help wondering whether he's playing it really safe here to try and aid sales of his book! I don't mean that at all nastily mind but has he chosen to completely ignore testimony from some bonafide 'blowers' on what's really going on on Mars presently (this is SSP environment I'm talking about) to shift units, because, heaven for fend, that might be a little controversial?! Or was he under pressure from his publisher to get something out to timescale? Anyway, at least he's raising more awareness on Martian matters.

I don't have a mighty problem with him playing it safe as he is a bold soul usually, and has gone where others may fear to tread in the past. But....come on Graham! Granted, I may need to listen right through just in case (and retain the option to contradict this post of mine should he land on contro-ground during the remainder of the broadcast) :bigsmile:

I suppose that is because he tends to study what he can see. Like artefacts, geology etc.

And that is perfectly a good thing to do. Sorry, I've just amended my post and asked the question when was this interview done do you know? It sounds pretty old (he mentions 2000!)

1996 I believe :). No need to apologise, I believe he is just choosing to be as credible as possible, as he gets no funding from larger interests like the government etc. He wants to try and bring people into his way of thinking, this is what I believe. He wants to encourage public interests to investigate what he has written about, further.

[Tintin]

Thanks 7alon. This is interesting and I am currently listening to this; I'm about a quarter of an hour into it at the moment.

I like Hancock, but, can't help wondering whether he's playing it really safe here to try and aid sales of his book! I don't mean that at all nastily mind but has he chosen to completely ignore testimony from some bonafide 'blowers' on what's really going on on Mars presently (this is SSP environment I'm talking about) to shift units, because, heaven for fend, that might be a little controversial?! Or was he under pressure from his publisher to get something out to timescale? Anyway, at least he's raising more awareness on Martian matters.

I don't have a mighty problem with him playing it safe as he is a bold soul usually, and has gone where others may fear to tread in the past. But....come on Graham! Granted, I may need to listen right through just in case (and retain the option to contradict this post of mine should he land on contro-ground during the remainder of the broadcast) :bigsmile:

I suppose that is because he tends to study what he can see. Like artefacts, geology etc.

And that is perfectly a good thing to do. Sorry, I've just amended my post and asked the question when was this interview done do you know? It sounds pretty old (he mentions 2000!)

1996 I believe :). No need to apologise, I believe he is just choosing to be as credible as possible, as he gets no funding from larger interests like the government etc. He wants to try and bring people into his way of thinking, this is what I believe. He wants to encourage public interests to investigate what he has written about, further.

All good and thanks. Yes, I agree that that is Graham's thrust, and thanks for the date too. 1998! Strewth, that's nearly 20 years ago.

My tuppence, for what it's worth: Mars had, and has still, a civilization although its current manifestation has had to adapt to the catastrophic events that brought about surface life obliteration. I couldn't say though what this civilization comprises but we - homo sapiens sapiens - are present and operating there in some capacity. Quite what that is is anybody's guess.

[EFO]

Former Apollo Astronaut Leaks Info on Mars

NASA Leaking Info on Mars Ancient Civilization
Brian O´Leary Ph.D Former Apollo Astronaut
Tom Van Flandern Ph.D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux9sAws8lSE&t=83s

[Spellbound]

If I'm not mistaken, Graham Hancock has never fully bought into the Ancient Astronaut theory....or ET's in general.

Dave - Toronto

[Foxie Loxie]

EFO.....Thanks for the Mars Face video! I did not realize a second face had been photographed!! Nice to see Brian O'Leary....loved the video where Bill & Kerry went to Ecuador to interview him!

[MorningFox]

I like Hancock, but, can't help wondering whether he's playing it really safe here - bottled it? - to try and aid sales of his book! I don't mean that at all nastily mind but has he chosen to completely ignore testimony from some bonafide 'blowers' on what's really going on on Mars presently (this is SSP environment I'm talking about) to shift units, because, heaven for fend, that might be a little controversial?! Or was he under pressure from his publisher to get something out to timescale?


Hancock goes on quantifiable evidence, not hearsay, for which I respect him immensely.


If I'm not mistaken, Graham Hancock has never fully bought into the Ancient Astronaut theory....or ET's in general.

Dave - Toronto

Yes, Graham believes that the 'Gods' were extradimensional entities that people from our past met through taking psychoactive plants, rather than physical extraterrestrial entities. Which, to be fair, is more logical and has more evidence behind it.

[latina]

All interviews in that channel are old, the channel owner is just re-loading old videos in order to make more money, that channel doesn't state who host and guests are so they can go under youtube radar for infringement of copyright rights. No new information in that channel

[Mister ET]

More than one. The face on Mars is 6,000,000 years old and an artificial construct...very similar to the Easter Island monuments. One civilization that occupied Mars (and Earth for that matter) were the Orions. It won't be long until we will find the pyramidal artifacts left for us on Mars (and other planets and satellites) and the only discussion will be when these civilizations existed not if they did.

Funny thing. On the city of Mars (Cairo) lies the Sphinx.

[onawah]

And your sources for this information?

[Mister ET]

And your sources for this information?
Asked and answered but I will, again, repeat what I am allowed by forum rules to say. (see my signature)

The information that I provide can easily be found by anyone with an open mind and heart . This information comes to us in many, many forms but the methodology that I am most familiar is human/ET channeling ala Anka/Bashar, Abraham/Hicks, Carroll/Kryon among others. I would include physical mediumship (Hamden, etc.) as rich sources of material as well.

In short, they have left us a complete kit, an instruction manual on physical reality, how to observe it, how it works, how we create it through our beliefs and preferences. If you (pl) apply what they have gifted to us, you will find that their advise is spot on, I see the evidence clearly every day by simply living life in the moment and watching the synchronicities flow.

[Mister ET]

I like Hancock, but, can't help wondering whether he's playing it really safe here - bottled it? - to try and aid sales of his book! I don't mean that at all nastily mind but has he chosen to completely ignore testimony from some bonafide 'blowers' on what's really going on on Mars presently (this is SSP environment I'm talking about) to shift units, because, heaven for fend, that might be a little controversial?! Or was he under pressure from his publisher to get something out to timescale?


Hancock goes on quantifiable evidence, not hearsay, for which I respect him immensely.


If I'm not mistaken, Graham Hancock has never fully bought into the Ancient Astronaut theory....or ET's in general.

Dave - Toronto

Yes, Graham believes that the 'Gods' were extradimensional entities that people from our past met through taking psychoactive plants, rather than physical extraterrestrial entities. Which, to be fair, is more logical and has more evidence behind it.
Hancock appears to have a real "thing" with the AAT but isn't denying the overall existence of physical ETs. I was fortunate to be at his Contact In The Desert 2017 lecture (the only one I didn't get recorded, duh) which paralleled his views as below:

AAT - "My own view is that all of the anomalies of history and prehistory pointed to by advocates of the ancient astronaut hypothesis are far better and more elegantly explained as emanating from a lost, advanced HUMAN civilization of prehistoric antiquity than from high-tech alien visitors from another planet."

ET - "As well as my lecture on this subject to the full conference I’ll be hosting a workshop on the “consciousness connection” to ET abduction and encounter experiences — which I think are evidence of something MUCH more mysterious going on than JUST contacts with physical beings a bit like us but from another planet and with higher tech.

[Bill Ryan]

And your sources for this information?
Asked and answered but I will, again, repeat what I am allowed by forum rules to say. (see my signature)

The information that I provide can easily be found by anyone with an open mind and heart . This information comes to us in many, many forms but the methodology that I am most familiar is human/ET channeling ala Anka/Bashar, Abraham/Hicks, Carroll/Kryon among others. I would include physical mediumship (Hamden, etc.) as rich sources of material as well.

In short, they have left us a complete kit, an instruction manual on physical reality, how to observe it, how it works, how we create it through our beliefs and preferences. If you (pl) apply what they have gifted to us, you will find that their advise is spot on, I see the evidence clearly every day by simply living life in the moment and watching the synchronicities flow.

Many thanks, but go easy here. This is channeled information, unsubstantiable and definitely not always to be trusted.

You'd be better advised to have written: (in your post #12 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99235-Graham-Hancock-Did-Mars-have-a-civilisation&p=1172724&viewfull=1#post1172724) above)





More than one. According to channeled entities Bashar, Kryon and others, the face on Mars is 6,000,000 years old and...

[turiya]

Many thanks, but go easy here. This is channeled information, unsubstantiable and definitely not always to be trusted.

And, certainly not accepted by conventional science.
As it is with Sitichin and the Annunaki that supposedly 'channeled' information to him regarding his supposed 'translation' of the Sumerian Tablets... eh?

[7alon]

If I'm not mistaken, Graham Hancock has never fully bought into the Ancient Astronaut theory....or ET's in general.

Dave - Toronto

Well he certainly doesn't give that impression in the video :P

[Chester]

Many thanks, but go easy here. This is channeled information, unsubstantiable and definitely not always to be trusted.

And, certainly not accepted by conventional science.
As it is with Sitichin and the Annunaki that supposedly 'channeled' information to him regarding his supposed 'translation' of the Sumerian Tablets... eh?

I am starting to conclude that people pick whatever story or theme or paradigm they like best or which suits their world view the best. I know I make my whole set of operational assumptions and protocols starting from a.) my core world view which is best described as monistic idealism and b.) my "acceptability test"

For example, it is not acceptable that I am powerless to live a fulfilling life because of some eternal third party which I played no role in placing as a challenge in my experiences within the realms of (illusury from the POV of Big Mind) form.

[ghostrider]

Of course Mars had a civilization, the descendants of that civilization look at you in your mirror every day ...Three planets were inhabited by our ancestors, global war ruined two of them , the third in the process of repeating history ... leave one galaxy for another, just spreads chaos, creation new what it was doing placing planets with human beings far far apart otherwise galactic war would never end ...

[Mister ET]

And your sources for this information?
Asked and answered but I will, again, repeat what I am allowed by forum rules to say. (see my signature)

The information that I provide can easily be found by anyone with an open mind and heart . This information comes to us in many, many forms but the methodology that I am most familiar is human/ET channeling ala Anka/Bashar, Abraham/Hicks, Carroll/Kryon among others. I would include physical mediumship (Hamden, etc.) as rich sources of material as well.

In short, they have left us a complete kit, an instruction manual on physical reality, how to observe it, how it works, how we create it through our beliefs and preferences. If you (pl) apply what they have gifted to us, you will find that their advise is spot on, I see the evidence clearly every day by simply living life in the moment and watching the synchronicities flow.

Many thanks, but go easy here. This is channeled information, unsubstantiable and definitely not always to be trusted.

That would be wholly incorrect in my extremely well researched opinion backed by multiple experiences with innumerable instances in evidential physical and mental mediumship much less so-called 'channeled' information that can pre-date the civil War.

[Mister ET]

And, certainly not accepted by conventional science.

Many conventional scientist are fully accepting suchinformation but personally, I could care less what they have to say. They dragging behind the illumination curve, always have, always will.


As it is with Sitichin and the Annunaki that supposedly 'channeled' information to him regarding his supposed 'translation' of the Sumerian Tablets... eh?

I would be happy to listen to your specific evidence that that this channeling did not occur...except there is none.

[Kindred]

Was there a civilization on Mars? According to the Thiaoouban's, Yes, a very long time ago. The story goes that the people of Bakaratini, a planet in the constellation of Centaur who were the progenitors of the Black and Asian races, came to our solar system approximately 1.35 million years ago, looking for a new world to inhabit, as theirs was in the process of cooling down, and would no longer support life in about 500 years.

from "Thiaoouba Prophecy" http://www.lanuovaumanita.net/files/tp-typeset.pdf (Below, beginning on the bottom of page 38 in the pdf - The full story of the Bakaratini's begins on page 34 - Chapter 3)

“Eventually, they penetrated your solar system, first visiting Mars which was known to be inhabitable, and which at that time in fact was inhabited. The human beings on Mars had no technology, but, by contrast, they were spiritually, highly evolved. They were very small people measuring in height between 120 centimeters and 150 centimeters, and of Mongoloid type. They lived in tribes, in huts of stone.

The fauna of Mars was scarce. There was a kind of dwarf goat, some very large hare-like creatures, several species of rat, and the largest animal resembled a buffalo, but had a head like tapir. There were also some birds and three species of snakes, one of which was quite venomous. The flora was also poor, trees attaining no more than four meters in height. They had too, an edible grass that you might compare with buckwheat.

The Bakaratinis conducted their research, realizing soon that Mars was also cooling down, at a rate which indicated that it would no longer be inhabitable in four to five thousand years. In terms of its flora and fauna, it was barely rich enough to sustain those already living there, let alone cope with an emigrant mass from Bakaratini. Besides, the planet did not appeal to them.”

Note, the Bakaratini’s finally settled on Earth for their emigration, with the Blacks populating the continent of Australia, and the Asians populating the area of Burma.

In Unity, Peace and Love