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1Watchman
14th August 2017, 21:03
:facepalm: So this is the 2nd interview I've seen with Jordan Maxwell and TruthSeekah and they both seems to end the same way. Jordan spouting about the end of the world and how dumb everyone is. I do like how the host tries to real it in but Jordan wont answer the questions on topic and keeps going back to how swrewed everyone is....

http://www.truthseekah.com/jordan-maxwell/

Foxie Loxie
14th August 2017, 21:13
It's better to watch the EARLY Maxwell interviews. If you watch the one Bill did with him & David Icke, Bill TRIES to keep things positive! :rolleyes:

Bill Ryan
14th August 2017, 23:11
It's better to watch the EARLY Maxwell interviews. If you watch the one Bill did with him & David Icke, Bill TRIES to keep things positive! :rolleyes:

Yes, I did my best. That was in summer 2010. David, Jordan and I were guests of a long-term Camelot supporter, who'd helped bring us together.

While we were there, Jordan was so very negative — all the time — that our friend got to the point where they refused to spend any more personal time with him till he returned home.

Satori
14th August 2017, 23:39
I did not listen to much of this. I jumped around a bit to get a sense of his mood. He's a very angry man. Not without some reason, however. But anger has got the better of him now. He needs to realize that and work on it. We probably all do to one degree or another.

Buzzie
15th August 2017, 00:44
I thoroughly enjoyed the interview. Jordan is good at drilling down to core truths. Jordan did not come here to make people feel good.

findingneo
15th August 2017, 01:56
Up to 25 minutes of the interview.

Looking at the truth will make you feel negative, and if you really look at the truth, it makes you feel really negative.

Choosing to be happy, makes you dumb. Literally, how else can you survive in this world without feeling like Jordan does? He has chosen the smart but sad choice. He has made the ultimate sacrifice to point to the truth.

Life is one big paradox. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The truth is a burden.

I prefer to feel positive at this moment in time. I am off to play with the dog and watch the movie, "Dr Strange", and maybe a bit of "Jupiter Ascending". I can only take so much, reality.

And BTW Jordan. Sending you love. You are the bravest person I know of. Thank you. x ( I ask if everyone who reads this thinks about sending him love as well. It sounds like he needs it).

thunder24
15th August 2017, 03:06
Up to 25 minutes of the interview.

Looking at the truth will make you feel negative, and if you really look at the truth, it makes you feel really negative.

Choosing to be happy, makes you dumb. Literally, how else can you survive in this world without feeling like Jordan does? He has chosen the smart but sad choice. He has made the ultimate sacrifice to point to the truth. ... Thank you. x

which truth do you care to look at?.....as I ask my self the same...

Makatao
15th August 2017, 03:13
It's better to watch the EARLY Maxwell interviews. If you watch the one Bill did with him & David Icke, Bill TRIES to keep things positive! :rolleyes:

Yes, I did my best. That was in summer 2010. David, Jordan and I were guests of a long-term Camelot supporter, who'd helped bring us together.

While we were there, Jordan was so very negative — all the time — that our friend got to the point where they refused to spend any more personal time with him till he returned home.

Those early interviews you guys did is why I'm here.

findingneo
15th August 2017, 03:17
thunder24, I care enough to look beyond the fence as much as I can, but not so much I am a threat to the farmer. It is not a matter of which truth. It is a matter of the sad truth or the happy illusion. I choose to look at the truth while living in the illusion. The only way to have a balanced life because I don't know how to survive otherwise. You?

Ernie Nemeth
15th August 2017, 03:24
The reason I like Jordan so much is because he is relentless. And it is evident to me that to him nothing else matters.

Unfortunately I am of this same attitude and it is near destroying my life. I just can't help myself. I refuse to give in or give up. I just keep fighting the battles, one mind at a time, one episode after another.

I find it harder and harder to keep up the daily charade. Now, with longer memory and greater insight, I see the generations repeating the same mistakes. The realization that we are conquered makes me sad...but very defiant.

Like Jordan. I hope he finds some peace

thunder24
15th August 2017, 03:33
thunder24, I care enough to look beyond the fence as much as I can, but not so much I am a threat to the farmer. It is not a matter of which truth. It is a matter of the sad truth or the happy illusion. I choose to look at the truth while living in the illusion. The only way to have a balanced life because I don't know how to survive otherwise. You?
I like metaphors ....

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Sorry ...which truth did you mean? Cause if you want it all... this place is a great first step! But there are still blocks, hills and bumps...Right in front of you...

A plant is born...weed...i dont' know, leave it bee... it blooms, prettiest flower you ever seen... then it wilts and dies... Are you gonna be sad over the truth that everthing dies... or happy, that it existed...and was beautiful?.... again as I ask my self the same...

Foxie Loxie
15th August 2017, 12:45
Us Older People DO get grumpy!!! :ROFL:

findingneo
15th August 2017, 12:50
Oh thunder24, you are complicated. Yes wanting to know everything can have it's down side (I thought I saw all the Indiana Jones movies, so what was that one called? I don't remember any aliens in them, I want to watch it now), but knowing just a little takes the shine off the beautiful. It is not what you thought is was and it is not going to last. More things to be sad about unless you appreciate it like today is your last.

So which step do you suggest? And btw it isn't my first step.

(However, you could assist me with finding my imoji's. I seem to be stuck with just a few smiles and a birthday cake (which is inappropriate). :happy dog: And a happy dog, which will suffice. And show I am not all doom and gloom.

Anyway, I will stop talking like this when you do.

findingneo
15th August 2017, 13:12
:neo:It's ok thunder24, I got my emoji's back.

Crystal Skull, how did I miss that? I loved those movies.

OmeyocaN777
15th August 2017, 13:34
Recently my girlfriend ask me what is the meaning of the word "love"(αγαπη) in ancient greek, literally.
So i search for it and what i found was astonish.
The word love/αγαπη comes from the verb αγαζομαι which means admire or be suprised/be weirded out. The same with the word αγαλμα/statue....is something that when you look at it, it makes you feel weird/beautiful or the word αγαλιαζομαι (beautify/prettify/attractive/calms my soul).
And the opposite, the word jealus/envy (ζηλευω/φθονω) comes from the verb φθινομαι which means μειωνομαι/be decreased, be redused, decline over time.
When i feel love my spirit/soul/connection with source is accelerate and the opposite when i envy, my soul energy is redused.....what i feel inside is the mirror of the outside and opposite
Where i'm going with this.......
Jordan is a good man and his intent was to help people with his gnosis to upgrade ourselfs.
But in the process he lost his patience, his week spot and now he is lack of energy.....
Anyway i learned a great deal from that man so i respect him and i love him.....i wish all the best for him......

Try to keep balance in life even more when you are in deep waters/rabbit hole (truth seeker/gnosis). Focus more on the solutions rather in the problems......

findingneo
16th August 2017, 03:13
OmeyocaN777 I would love to hear what solutions are being worked on out there, that would be great. I did not get past 25 minutes, does he suggest any? Does anyone suggest any? I would like to hear something nice that is not just avoidance.

Hughe
16th August 2017, 04:17
@OmeyocaN777

Every culture has the concept of love and word about it. In Korean culture, "Sa-rang" represents "love" in English. I've experienced Korean and Western culture for many years. My understanding of true love is "to give complete freedom to somebody."


thunder24, I care enough to look beyond the fence as much as I can, but not so much I am a threat to the farmer. It is not a matter of which truth. It is a matter of the sad truth or the happy illusion. I choose to look at the truth while living in the illusion. The only way to have a balanced life because I don't know how to survive otherwise. You?
Totally! When one takes the path of truth, it all depends on the subject but real action in physical reality would cost everything you got. The concept of happiness is delusional belief or faith, collective mind control. I don't live for the happiness at all. I rather enjoy the moment and what I'm doing for my idealogy. Well the thing is happyness addicts around me looks alot miserable and unhappy than me. Why is that?

Isolation sucks but to have my life, I limit socialization too. If I have an invitation to a drinking party or family meeting, I kindly refuse it. Last night there was a group meeting for drinking and dinner. I didn't go there and I did fitness training for one hour. We should love and learn how to take care ourselves first then help others in need locally.

When I go to a swimming pool, I looks 15 to 20 years younger than my age. It's so strange feeling anyway.
"How old am I?"
I say regenerative ability of middle of 40s is less than early 20s health man. But otherwise physical abilities - look and muscle strength - of life-long trained man exceeds the young man.

During a serious fitness training session, the muscle and body part screams with pain and uneasyness. 'Why I'm doing it three to four days per week!' Personal investment and being humble for one hour out of twenty four hours. I'm far from fitness freak though.

findingneo
16th August 2017, 05:43
Hughe, I don't drink, or smoke......

Just finished watching, The ...Crystal Skull. It reminded me about something I forgot to mention on the Nazca Mummies thread. Not as good as the first, but fun.

Mike
16th August 2017, 06:09
Loads of knowledge from Jordan but not much wisdom I'm afraid. He's a walking encyclopedia of earth history, both 3d and esoteric, but also obnoxiously self righteous and bigoted; he said some disturbing things about homosexuality in there.

As sh!tty and depressing as he was, I *still* listened to almost the entire interview....which is a testament to Jordan's vast knowledge of language and biblical interpretation and his ability to tie it all together into a cohesive, albeit hugely depressing whole. The man's grasp on things is impressive...his attitude, however, isn't

Mike Gorman
16th August 2017, 06:44
I am not a big fan of this person. Certainly he is a person who was imbued with a critical thinking ability. However, I think he is extremely unstable, and also cynical beyond a reasonable level. From what i have seen of his lectures, he developed this obsession with hidden symbols, and the core power-families of the western world. His assertions concerning Maritime law are technically incorrect. The 'Doc' brings you into the 'Birth' & you are then given a certificate of registration like a vessel-not so.
some of his ideas regarding politics, and the cover up of information are valid.
So his entire approach seems to be one of the irritable wise man confronted by the childish and naive idiot people. Sure there are lots of gullible, stupid people who are too lazy or oblivious to think for themselves-but to tar humanity with the same brush is ridiculous. I wish the man well, but my own research eclipses such people, it is simply that i make my living in a different way, not beguiling the masses.

Bill Ryan
16th August 2017, 08:14
His assertions concerning Maritime law are technically incorrect. The 'Doc' brings you into the 'Birth' & you are then given a certificate of registration like a vessel-not so.

That's correct. Many of Jordan's takes on etymology (the origin of words and meanings) are way full of holes, and simply not valid. Much of what he incorrectly claims about word origins is very easy to check.

Wind
16th August 2017, 08:21
From what I've read, he hasn't been a such "great man" when it comes to dealing with other people.

OmeyocaN777
16th August 2017, 08:56
OmeyocaN777 I would love to hear what solutions are being worked on out there, that would be great. I did not get past 25 minutes, does he suggest any? Does anyone suggest any? I would like to hear something nice that is not just avoidance.

I said to focus more on solutions just to keep balance on things and not get lost on negative emotions.
But on that matter of religions that Jordan is referred to is a "hot potato" thats why Jordan speaks more about the problem with it rather the solution.
Is to give everybody the priming to search it alone afterwards.....
At some point in the beggining of the interview he refers about one solution that is basic for me and that is to be spiritual persons and not religion ones........
My personal belief just to say a little more is that i agree with Jordan.....behind all religions are the same entities with differents names.....

adnanaluna
16th August 2017, 11:16
the people who not only seek the truth, but also tell it and made it public are exposed to all sorts of negative reactions;
reactions both from those who hide/distort/manipulate the truth and those who ignore it;
indeed they are loosing a lot, on personal level, financial, social, health and so on.

many times they are loosing their life, like Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, Dave Mc Gowan and so many others.
and yet they keep going on doing this hard, dangerous, burdensome job.

I read The Threat by Dr Jacobs two years ago and I am still recovering inside - and I am wondering what's in his heart and where and how he found the power to go on???
I read Inside LC Canyon by Dave Mc Gowan and starting Programmed to kill and couldn't reach the half of it - i was horrified, full of rage and feeling hopeless.

all these people deserve our help, understanding and compassion - angry or gentle, their message is the most important

I think that we - we, the people who question everything and want to know the truth and to find solutions to our situation - have to be more united, focused.

and far less tolerant with those in the alternate media who are misinforming deliberately, spreading BS, trolling and so on - whoever they are - from a simple person who comment on a thread or video or whatever, to the whistleblowers

findingneo
16th August 2017, 13:33
OmeyocaN777 , I have always found it annoying, when you have to sign into hospital for an operation, the forms you have to fill in asks what religion you are, or it gives the option of "No" religion. I always ask the receptionist, where is the box that says "Spiritual". They just don't get it. Yes, it is pretty basic.

adnanaluna , Dr Jacobs gave me some stuff a few weeks ago.

What is this about adnanaluna? Inside LC Canyon by Dave Mc Gowan.

Cardillac
16th August 2017, 19:38
@findingneo

please read both of Dave McGowan's books "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon" (true history of hippie mov't) and "Programmed To Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder"- both are revelations-

unlike @adnanaluna I had no problems with "Programmed"; I want to know the truth no matter how ugly it is-

be well all-

Larry

Antagenet
16th August 2017, 19:45
Rense is doing some recent interviews with Jordan. They are called Jordan's bedtime stories, and he is talking about the amazing almost miracles that happened to him. It is great to hear him happy.
here is one
http://rense2.gsradio.net/rense/http/MP3Download/Aug2017/hB7t19/rense_080917_hr3.mp3

findingneo
18th August 2017, 16:20
@findingneo

please read both of Dave McGowan's books "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon" (true history of hippie mov't) and "Programmed To Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder"- both are revelations-

unlike @adnanaluna I had no problems with "Programmed"; I want to know the truth no matter how ugly it is-

be well all-

Larry

Hi Cardillac,

I have a large list of books already, and they are just the ones I am interested in reading. Can you give me a few sentences on each book you suggest, just to give me an idea what they are about please?

Thanks.

(Ok, looked at Amazon for Weird Scenes....and, what is the connection to this thread?

And I looked at the description for "Programmed to Kill".

So are you saying they were black op experiments for programming people to be super soldiers or something? If so, I am aware of this, and, yeh, I don't really need the gory details of reading the book, but thanks for the thought).

thunder24
29th August 2017, 21:56
Stop associating an emotion with truth...and when you find what you perceive as truth "just keep digging"

BrotherWayne
28th September 2022, 20:53
It's better to watch the EARLY Maxwell interviews. If you watch the one Bill did with him & David Icke, Bill TRIES to keep things positive! :rolleyes:

Yep!!! Old Cemelot stuff is where its at!!!!

s7e6e
29th September 2022, 01:20
Jordan was a light. He's now finding, it was all worth it.
Thank you Jordan, for everything!

norman
7th June 2023, 23:11
The following interview with the late Jordan Maxwell was conducted on May 21, 2014. The discussion remained unreleased until now (June 2023).


Jordan Maxwell – You Have No Idea (Unreleased Interview from May 21, 2014) (https://www.mixcloud.com/SageOfQuay/jordan-maxwell-you-have-no-idea-unreleased-interview-from-may-21-2014/?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=notification_new_upload&utm_content=html)


He knew what was coming, that's for damned sure.

Icare
7th June 2023, 23:29
The following interview with the late Jordan Maxwell was conducted on May 21, 2014. The discussion remained unreleased until now (June 2023).


Jordan Maxwell – You Have No Idea (Unreleased Interview from May 21, 2014) (https://www.mixcloud.com/SageOfQuay/jordan-maxwell-you-have-no-idea-unreleased-interview-from-may-21-2014/?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=notification_new_upload&utm_content=html)


He knew what was coming, that's for damned sure.

Thanks, Norman, I'm just listening to it now.

You are right, he did. He must have been very frustrated with people towards the end of his life. And quite scared.

norman
8th June 2023, 01:36
The following interview with the late Jordan Maxwell was conducted on May 21, 2014. The discussion remained unreleased until now (June 2023).


Jordan Maxwell – You Have No Idea (Unreleased Interview from May 21, 2014) (https://www.mixcloud.com/SageOfQuay/jordan-maxwell-you-have-no-idea-unreleased-interview-from-may-21-2014/?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=notification_new_upload&utm_content=html)


He knew what was coming, that's for damned sure.

Thanks, Norman, I'm just listening to it now.

You are right, he did. He must have been very frustrated with people towards the end of his life. And quite scared.


This section was pretty special, for me. My own research was leading me to the same spot, about the worldly religions and of the true nature of the founding of America. Jordan just spits it out as matter of fact.

Jordan is ill and spiritually a mess, which is a great tragedy. He knows God is real. He hints at it a few times, but he's trapped himself into a place of terror where very little light can get in.

MP3 - 25 min
https://app.box.com/s/b74t6sem3eim79pp5aa6bs3py3d5qhe5

derek
8th June 2023, 06:38
-- Jordan Maxwell is on film laughing and bragging about how he scammed his business associates

-- He has been sued multiple times for dirty tricks, lying, etc

-- He stole his entire schtick from Manly P Hall. He's all but admitted this. If you read enough Manly Hall, you will not be impressed by Maxwell. At all.

-- He was a former Jehovahs Witness preacher who lied about his entire past, repertoire and even his identity

-- He would make outlandish ego-centric statements like Steven Speilberg based characters on him.

-- He said that Manly P Hall "left all his works to him", which the PRS (Philosophical Research Society, created by Manly Hall, that contains his entire collection of research papers, rare books, artifacts, etc categorically denies). It's a near certainty the two never met. A mathematical one based on their ages, location, and when Maxwell stopped being a Jehovah's Witness.

-- Jordan at one point sold zip files on his website containing "his life's work and all research materials" which amounted to about 20 PDF's of books like Nesta Webster's secret societies and subversive movements which were already public domain.

-- He is impressive if you are new to conspiracy research. After enough due diligence and independent research you realize he's wrong about more than he's right. In terms of symbolism, etc

-- He was poor and destitute and didn't want to work a real job. It wasn't because the "illuminati was after him."

-- Jordan Maxwell has contributed to ruining multiple peoples lives by convincing them they don't have to pay taxes.

-- In the interview, Maxwell implies that the United States Government goes around murdering people with hit squads who exercise their first amendment rights. Causing people to be terrified to do so.

-- Jordan Maxwell became popular because he was on the internet early. That's it.

-- Freeman fly isn't perfect but he's way better than Maxwell and interpreting symbolism.

-- Read Manly P Hall.

norman
9th June 2023, 02:13
. . . . . . My own research was leading me to the same spot, about the worldly religions and of the true nature of the founding of America. . . . .


This (2010) video was an eye opener, when I first discovered it a couple of years ago.

The Hidden Faith of The Founding Fathers 2010

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