View Full Version : By Justin Deschamps : "Ufology Researchers Divided but Not Conquered: Exposure of PSYOP to Create Truther 'Civil War' -- But it's Not Working"
Bill Ryan
16th August 2017, 19:39
The best way to start this thread is to copy our Record of Moderator Actions post, here:
Milo has been unsubscribed as an immediate consequence of posting, in lengthy detail, apparently hacked (or somehow leaked) e-mails. His several posts here were quickly deleted, to protect the privacy of a number of people, including some well-known figures in the community.
The moderators team are looking closely at what has happened — which is quite a lot.
Some (but not all) of what Milo (aka 'JackSmith') posted here was also posted by Justin Deschamps at Stillness In The Storm, here (http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/08/ufology-researchers-divided-but-not-conquered-exposure-of-psyop-to-create-truther-civil-war-but-it-s-not-working.html?m=1).
Some posts referencing Milo's (that was cross-posted on three threads) were also deleted, but no member who commented did anything out of order. We needed to put some order into what might have become rapidly escalating chaos, and we've opened a new thread to transparently discuss what has happened.
We were right to delete Milo's post — spammed into three threads, simultaneously — because it contained UNredacted personal details, some (but not all) of which are still publicly included in Justin Deschamps' long article here:
http://stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/08/ufology-researchers-divided-but-not-conquered-exposure-of-psyop-to-create-truther-civil-war-but-it-s-not-working.html?m=1
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the contents of that article. It's too long to copy (by far!), so the above link is the reference.
mojo
16th August 2017, 20:03
Ufology Researchers Divided
so true... The article mentions Corey and offers an alternative hypothesis why he has come under attack ie " ufo research divided." He might be more a whistleblower, not anything that would consider being ufo research and not sure that matters but he's using the reality of infighting in paranormal studies but has done nothing in providing any validating evidence to corroborate his story.
Gaia
16th August 2017, 20:05
Oh what a shame, Justin Deschamps the massage therapist goes on psychological warfare tactics. It is that guy from the Flat Earth Society ? :happy dog: Yes of course!!! :facepalm: He's been part of a false agenda or hoax to deceive the public in case you didnt know it!! Communism for Kids is a children's book ...is that so Justin on Pinterest? Introduce Marxist philosophies to newer generations...Nobody care Justin because you are. You are French I know it !
And you not what you told to be....JUSTIN DESCHAMPS COPAINS D'AVANT...Every time I saw a post from you on YouTube or Google I walk away!!!
Have a look : https://www.pinterest.pt/pin/406661041340499436/
pabranno
16th August 2017, 20:36
Just a quick note: Sierra did a fantastic job of containing the situation judiciously and efficiently.
Hats off to you Sierra: thank you for your oversight and care of this community.......
OK back to topic:)
Gaia
16th August 2017, 20:41
Just a quick note: Sierra did a fantastic job of containing the situation judiciously and efficiently.
Hats off to you Sierra: thank you for your oversight and care of this community.......
OK back to topic:)
Maybe he was a member of Adult Friend Finders lol!! Sierra I'm proud of you! :focus:
Nasu
16th August 2017, 21:06
We are all so tired of being lied to on almost any given subject that we no longer believe in anything. People are even convinced we have been lied to about the shape of our planet! Anyone even partially "awake" knows we have been steered down a path of economic slavery as a planet for so long that our grandparents were unaware of it. So now we no longer have a compass by which to steer ourselves. Out from this fog of lies walks the likes of David Wilcock and Corey Goode, spouting love and light, yet asking that we trust our instincts rather than evidence, so called. Many people are falling for it. I found this comment interesting at the bottom of that crazy page - Stillness In The Storm... N
"I have never doubted David Wilcock's dedication to truth and full disclosure. I trust when he makes an assertion that he does so having researched and vetted the living hell out of it first. With that in mind, his endorsement of Corey Goode is a ringing endorsement of the man. My gut says they are the real deal - when I saw the very first slam against Corey Goode, it felt utterly and completely WRONG, as did every slanderous tidbit that followed. I am disappointed in Steven Greer's position in relation to Corey Goode's testimony and in the others in the UFO community who think it prudent to distance themselves from him. Perhaps they are simply more invested in having tangible evidence; as for me, I learned long ago to follow my intuition on matters, regardless the tangible evidence or supposed "facts," and it has never failed me."
Gaia
16th August 2017, 21:08
We are all so tired of being lied to on almost any given subject that we no longer believe in anything. People are even convinced we have been lied to about the shape of our planet! Anyone even partially "awake" knows we have been steered down a path of economic slavery as a planet for so long that our grandparents were unaware of it. So now we no longer have a compass by which to steer ourselves. Out from this fog of lies walks the likes of David Wilcock and Corey Goode, spouting love and light, yet asking that we trust our instincts rather than evidence, so called. Many people are falling for it. I found this comment interesting at the bottom of that crazy page - Stillness In The Storm... N
"I have never doubted David Wilcock's dedication to truth and full disclosure. I trust when he makes an assertion that he does so having researched and vetted the living hell out of it first. With that in mind, his endorsement of Corey Goode is a ringing endorsement of the man. My gut says they are the real deal - when I saw the very first slam against Corey Goode, it felt utterly and completely WRONG, as did every slanderous tidbit that followed. I am disappointed in Steven Greer's position in relation to Corey Goode's testimony and in the others in the UFO community who think it prudent to distance themselves from him. Perhaps they are simply more invested in having tangible evidence; as for me, I learned long ago to follow my intuition on matters, regardless the tangible evidence or supposed "facts," and it has never failed me."
So true!! Namaste my friend!
Noelle
16th August 2017, 21:10
For those of us who have not intensely followed the Goode saga and are less astute when it comes to the inner struggles of the UFO community, is the alleged smear campaign a fabrication to somehow right Goode's image?
Gaia
16th August 2017, 21:24
For those of us who have not intensely followed the Goode saga and are less astute when it comes to the inner struggles of the UFO community, is the alleged smear campaign a fabrication to somehow right Goode's image?
Suppressing one culture to promote another that's more dysfunctional. That's the point of all of this! Follow the money... He' got uge ressource for his nononsense!
Nasu
16th August 2017, 21:40
For those of us who have not intensely followed the Goode saga and are less astute when it comes to the inner struggles of the UFO community, is the alleged smear campaign a fabrication to somehow right Goode's image?
It looks that way to me. The thing is, for the most part, there is no UFO community. By it's very nature it is a group of rebellious disparate souls who do not believe what we have been told, on a number of subjects including UFO's. Most of it's member's are not connected. Most leaders or celebrities within this community have not met the membership who follow them, again for the most part. Bill is one of these community leaders / celebrities, how many of you have actually met him, for example?
For the most part it is more echo chamber than community, with the choir singing to itself, so to speak. Half the time one side is claiming the other side is Counter Intel pro, while sanctimoniously claiming to know for sure who is or is not telling the truth. Even one of the starting moments of this group, so called, is still being debated, Roswell NM. Still no proof that it happened, we have farmers claims, retired Air-force testimony, etc etc, but still no certainty only hunches and gut feelings..
Someone funny once said "I don't want to be in any group that would have ME as a member" I think we can all sympathize with that thought...x... N
Kristin
16th August 2017, 22:30
We as individuals and as a community possess every right to question "facts", to exercise our minds, and to coin in our own observations. IF the context of our exercise pisses a few people off whom did not require the same modem to cast their own judgement; then so be it. I personally do not need David Wilcock, nor Corey Goode, nor Micheal Salla to tell me what is real. I can make my own observations based on factual findings that I have witnessed, found, and reported for any who would care to listen. This takes work by the way and is a personal responsibility for each of us.
We are not here to be told what to think but rather to learn how to learn in a subjective way. For most of us that bit was taken away before we even had the chance to know what we were missing out on. Hence the game. Whom can they gather up? How far can they bend the mind into confusion? What can they MAKE YOU BELIEVE?
This is a fiasco that makes money. We can be a part of that, observe it, or ignore it all together. Yet here is the rub, it's more then just a carnival for our entertainment, there appears to be an agenda. Does this make you or I more important then any other, no, it does not. What is important here is just simple honesty. You can twist the night into day if you want to, but in the end the moon and sun still will rise with or without your permission.
Good luck minor deviations; in the end there always is truth. Truth outlasts, truth is there to be found, truth is waiting for you in the end of all things. Eventually someone will dig it up.
Andrew_K
17th August 2017, 00:39
Oh what a shame, Justin Deschamps the massage therapist goes on psychological warfare tactics. It is that guy from the Flat Earth Society ? :happy dog: Yes of course!!! :facepalm: He's been part of a false agenda or hoax to deceive the public in case you didnt know it!! Communism for Kids is a children's book ...is that so Justin on Pinterest? Introduce Marxist philosophies to newer generations...Nobody care Justin because you are. You are French I know it !
And you not what you told to be....JUSTIN DESCHAMPS COPAINS D'AVANT...Every time I saw a post from you on YouTube or Google I walk away!!!
Have a look : https://www.pinterest.pt/pin/406661041340499436/
That excerpt on Pinterest is misleading. Here's what he has to say about it on his blog:
NWO for Kids? | MIT Press Publishes Children’s Book Titled “Communism for Kids”
(Stillness in the Storm Editor) Communism for Kids (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262533359/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0262533359&linkCode=as2&tag=justinnotary-20&linkId=16c98c16d8da4f468d565cd344197b39) is a children's book designed to introduce Marxist philosophies to newer generations. At present, the masses clamor for more government handouts and a bolstering of the nanny-state—which to the uneducated person appears to be a good solution for economic hardship and inequality. But redistribution of wealth schemes do not create abundance—only hard work, knowledge and effort can do that. Marxist Communism is arguably yet another version of NWO control, one that seeks to make citizens completely dependent upon a strong authoritarian state that promises abundance for free.
Source: http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/04/nwo-for-kids-mit-press-publishes-children-s-book-titled-communism-for-kids.html
Also, there is a massage therapist named Justin Deschamps, but he lives in Chicago, Illinois. The Justin Deschamps who runs Stillness in the Storm lives in Nellysford, Virginia.
Also, the only reason “Flat Earth Society” appears in conjunction with “Justin Deschamps” in a google search is that he shared a video debunking Flat Earth. He copied the title of the video and made it the title of his article (http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/03/the-flat-earth-society-has-members-all-across-the-globe-video.html).
I'm not defending him, I'm just clearing up misinformation. :)
Daozen
17th August 2017, 00:50
It's not a civil war. It's a food fight in a teacup. I understand this has been taken offline, and several people have had their personal lives affected. I'm sorry for that. But how many people sincerely believe this Blue Avian stuff worldwide? 50? 200? Hardly any. I think the Goode camp are buying viewcounts for their vids.
Innocent Warrior
17th August 2017, 01:13
Faaaaaaaaake and Wilcock needs to prove ALL his claims about his car, or retract, or admit he's a lying fantasist.
Harley
17th August 2017, 03:11
These guys THINK and ACT like they are 'Celebrity Gurus', but they are not.
As a matter of fact you can find 'Their Kind' at any local Transmission Repair Shop or Auto Repair Shop in Pudunk, USA.
And in addition to that, they do not have the slightest idea of what goes on inside USAPs and Black Programs.
Shannon
17th August 2017, 03:51
I know who cut David wilcocks brakes...his imagination.
Shadowself
17th August 2017, 04:36
Help me out here. I just got back from work and I know I caught this all in the middle....but of what I'm not certain.
We have David and Corey who claim to be attacked and threatened right?
Wait... What? Isn't that what they have been doing? The Goode & Co. crew have been threatening anyone who snitches on them that they will destroy and they will have the whole world thinking that person is cabal? Is that not what they did with that stalking video threatening to make DJ and Bill look Cabal? And isn't that what Michael Salla did?
Oh Daniel...you look so elegantly cabal tonight in your latest video...LOL
Then some Cory's kid dude exposes himself (literally) as some guy who he is not. And further more openly admits to setting up a scam to make these people look Cabal...as much as he claims he is...but for a non disclosure agreement and a fee?
Say what? It now costs money and a fee to set up a scam to make someone look guilty of being cabal?
Well I never!
Have I got that right so far? Please help me... I'm but a lowly minion who wishes to understand how easy it is to start a company of cabal makers!
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ThePythonicCow
17th August 2017, 08:07
Some more out of the box (or into the padded cell of a loony bin) thinking from me:
The elite bastards know damn good and well, having done it successfully millions of times, over thousands of years, that they can successfully get the masses to accept whatever story, blaming whomever, for whatever goes down that's nasty.
I anticipate that the elite bastards are about to unleash some changes on us masses, and that they also know full well that this "disclosure" (next chapter in the book of thousands of years of fake news) will be better accepted by the masses if there is major resistence from the "old guard" that draws the short straw and gets the blame for the failure of the previous chapter, that we're now concluding.
Therefore ... the elite bastards are stirring up whatever opposition they can to those who will be "revealing" the next chapter ... They don't care much where that opposition comes from, so long as it comes from a variety of sources, and is widely seen.
Such opposition includes:
Kristin and I contributed to that opposition with our expose on Corey's thread viewing habits on Avalon.
Bill Ryan contributed to that opposition with his various commentaries and interviews on Corey.
Richard Dolan is contributing to that opposition with his defense of proper research methods.
The Dark Journalist is contributing to that opposition with his investigations into Corey.
JoefromtheCarolinas is contributing to that opposition with his commentaries on Corey.
The pending drama wouldn't be credible unless the revelations overcame major resistance. That resistance is now being manufactured, and we are part of the stew.
The opposition, the resistance, that is dramatically required will be blamed on the "old guard", the one's who lied, cheated, stole, and other nasty deeds and who are being cast aside. Nevermind that some of that opposition is myself, Kristin, Bill, Richard Dolan, the Dark Journalist, JoefromtheCarolinas, some paid shill, some intelligence operative, or some random commentator, thug or unknown blogger ... the masses will be persuaded to blame the old guard, and this (apparent) resistance of the old guard will be further evidence of the truth, by its overcoming this resistance, of the "new story", in the next chapter of human existence.
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It's not just our little ufology world that's being stirred up. For example, the top two headlines on DrudgeReport.com right now are "Silicon Valley escalates its war on white supremacy despite free speech concerns..." and "FOXNEWS HOST DEATH THREATS AFTER CRITICIZING TRUMP".
Just as with stage and movie drama, they need to build up to the dramatic moments, in order to get the audience in the right mental, emotional, state to really engage with the unfolding events.
All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts. -- As You Like It, Act II, Scene VII, William Shakespeare
Shadowself
17th August 2017, 15:29
I feel this whole thing that David has come out with and discussing on the Church show is a coordinated effort (including the recent exposure of a Cory's kid) to prepare themselves for the flood of information that is coming out now. Let's face it there is a flood of information that is coming out on Corey Goode and none of it is pretty. In fact it brings to light who the real Corey and Co. are.
I was reading this article at SITS and they are preparing themselves for the worst. Case in point:
The disgust or revulsion mechanism is a prominent feature of the human psyche. For sake of argument, consider the revulsion felt by suspecting a close friend or colleague might be a pedophile, one who has set their sights on your child. Even if you aren't sure, the usual response is so intense, careful evaluation of the suspicion (unbiased evidence appraisal) is almost impossible—as parents who've experienced this before can attest to.
When a person feels revulsion for something, the portion of the brain in charge of intense emotional responses, related to the fight or flight mechanism, activates, managed by the amygdala and hippocampus. Once a person has been triggered, the dense mirror neuron centers of the brain, located in the insula just behind the prefrontal cortex, shuts down, along with a reduction of neocortical activity. These are the centers responsible for empathy, compassion, and most importantly, rational thought—the capacity to judge things accurately.
In the suspected pedophile example, the mere thought that someone might be conspiring to harm a child is usually enough to trigger an intense fear response. As the brain floods with fear hormones, critical thinking and reasoning capacities breakdown, effectively reducing brain function to that of a frightened animal. The psyche of such a triggered individual becomes incredibly reactive, irrational, and easily influenced by suggestion, particularly one that enables the person to defend an entrenched viewpoint or belief system.
Historically, if a crowd of people blame a rape or some atrocity on a perpetrator, due process is abandoned, as groupthink consciousness sweeps over. The people in the mob quickly switch into a dissociative state, marked by feelings of personal power, euphoria and a desire to inflict harm (revenge) on an identified target, called the out-group.
Say what? What could be so bad that Corey is preparing with the help of David and SITS, Sets up live stream with J Church and reveals all this stuff at once?
More here:
But before triggering can take place, ground work for directing this state of consciousness toward an agenda needs to be laid. Particularly, a propaganda campaign using rhetoric designed to characterize a certain group, school of thought or viewpoint as reprehensible. In this case, Goode’s testimony that reveals the partial disclosure narrative is labeled as incredible and "too crazy to be true," even though other persons in ufology similarly provide fantastic claims with out direct evidence, and are welcomed with open arms.
Once the targeted population has been sufficiently programed by manipulating their value system through various means, a series of triggering events can brand anyone targeted as a member of the out-group, wherein such triggered persons further the agenda by way of their reactions. The triggering event in Goode’s case, was likely the smear campaign promoted by Dark Journalist, explained further on.
Historically, especially if one examines the effects of war on soldiers and what can happen on the battlefield, even the most seemingly moral and ethical people can participate in horrific displays of power and domination, such as rape gangs, and sociopathic aggressions. This little known feature of the human condition was extensively documented by The Association of Psychohistory.
http://stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/08/ufology-researchers-divided-but-not-conquered-exposure-of-psyop-to-create-truther-civil-war-but-it-s-not-working.html?m=1
What are they afraid of that this so called 'smear campaign' is onto? If they're not lying in the first place what is the deal that a Cory's kid comes out of the closet here at Avalon and truly exposes himself?
It's a mystery but my sense is they are preparing for something that this article is trying it's hardest to get the followers of Good & Co. to disregard it all. Dark Alliance my a$$!
Remember; Number 6 of the Dark Journalist is pending....
When I got home last night I was still confused as to what exactly happened:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99350-By-Justin-Deschamps-Ufology-Researchers-Divided-but-Not-Conquered-Exposure-of-PSYOP-to-Create-Truther-Civil-War-But-it-s-Not-Working&p=1173811&viewfull=1#post1173811
But after and while still listening to a three hour long live stream....they are working overtime to protect Corey. Thing is will it be worth it in the end? Time will tell.
FictionLReality
17th August 2017, 15:58
Jack Smith >>>>>> against the grain
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rVp9CtffPVM/WZW31t6jdsI/AAAAAAAAkhA/je3lggz2_GUdclPXPoeKyZ1CuwvGeT-OACLcBGAs/s1600/Insert%2B2-Jack%2BSmith%2B1st%2Bemail.jpg
FictionLReality
17th August 2017, 16:25
Whats so funny???
I'm just a man who is trying to figure out why there is in-fighting between the UFO Community! It's boiling hot right now....
I couldn't post a link at the moment but that email is one of many just posted this morning on the blog at Stillness In The Storm by COREY GOODE himself http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/08/corey-goode-update-dark-alliance-in-panic-mode-threatens-my-family-david-wilcock-s-life-and-legal-entrapments.html
Edit: what an odd reaction?
Mod note from Bill: this apparent non sequitur ^^ was because I moved the post to the thread (here!) where it belongs. The post stays live, of course, because it cites the important response by Corey Goode.
RunningDeer
17th August 2017, 17:04
I wasn’t able to pull out the top address from the JackBlack email. From what I can make out the second redact was to another Corey email account: goodetech@yahoo.com ?
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/jackblack2.jpg
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Bill Ryan
17th August 2017, 17:54
I wasn’t able to pull out the top address from the JackBlack email. From what I can make out the second redact was to another Corey email account: goodetech@yahoo.com ?
Yes, it was. The e-mail was from michaelmorrison312@tutanota.com.
Bill Ryan
17th August 2017, 18:07
I'm just a man who is trying to figure out why there is in-fighting between the UFO Community! It's boiling hot right now....
Yes, I agree. All the hallmarks and fingerprints — if one steps way back to see it all more clearly — is that this is orchestrated from an altitude to cleave the community like an axe splitting a giant log.
I'm as sure as I can be that the intention, which is persistent, strong, and hidden, is very Dark. I think many people ARE being manipulated. And some prominent alt media figures are certainly being used, probably without their awareness in any way.
The protection is to stay rational, and not to react emotionally.
But this does NOT mean ceasing to critique, strongly if needed, statements or claims which are highly fallacious and themselves manipulative.
'Unity' does NOT mean dumb, uncritical agreement or compliance. There's not a molecule of Sovereignty in that.
Carmody
17th August 2017, 18:15
Someone funny once said "I don't want to be in any group that would have ME as a member" I think we can all sympathize with that thought...x... N
Groucho Marx, IIRC.
"I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member. "
Harley
17th August 2017, 18:26
[...] some prominent alt media figures are certainly being used, probably without their awareness in any way.
The protection is to stay rational, and not to react emotionally.
Many people are following BECAUSE OF these prominent alt media figures.
And many people are saying 'I don't understand why all these alt media figures are falling for this'.
Personally, I think all these prominent alt media figures are simply now showing their True Colors.
I'm rationally emotional.
Satori
17th August 2017, 20:34
Someone funny once said "I don't want to be in any group that would have ME as a member" I think we can all sympathize with that thought...x... N
Groucho Marx, IIRC.
"I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member. "
Woody Allen said this too,
Tangri
14th September 2017, 22:02
Jack Smith >>>>>> against the grain
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rVp9CtffPVM/WZW31t6jdsI/AAAAAAAAkhA/je3lggz2_GUdclPXPoeKyZ1CuwvGeT-OACLcBGAs/s1600/Insert%2B2-Jack%2BSmith%2B1st%2Bemail.jpg
I am very sorry for this poor boy. No cure, unfortunately.
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