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Bubu
17th August 2017, 10:03
We all know the basic "divide and conquer" just a heads up

" During ESPN’s First Take program on Tuesday, longtime network personality Steven A. Smith, who is black, threw down the race card as he lectured viewers about the ethnic nuances of the First Amendment.

As Breitbart News reported, Smith was complaining about a statement made by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who is white, when responding to a question about players sitting or engaging in some other act of protest during the playing of the National Anthem, which occurs before each and every game.

“The national anthem is a special moment for me. It’s a point of pride. That is a really important moment but we also have to understand the other side — that people do have rights, and we want to respect those,” he said when speaking to Arizona Cardinals season ticket holders.

Goodell went on to note that he had visited with New York Jets fans a week before, and a player whom he did not identify was asked the same thing. The player, the commissioner recalled, said there was “a time and a place” to engage in protest.

“That’s what we all have to, sort of, understand — the responsibility of doing it at the right time and in the right way,” Goodell said.

Well, that set Smith off.

“Roger Goodell is not the man to make that statement,” Smith claimed.

Really, Steven? How come?

“I’m going to say something that’s going to be controversial. I don’t give a damn,” he said. “No white person has the right to tell black folks when you should protest about something. Because usually protests that emanates from the black community is due in large part because of the transgressions exacted against that community by those who don’t happen to be black.”

Translated: If you’re not black, then shut up about this.

The thing is Roger Goodell never said: “Blacks can’t protest the National Anthem.” But because Steven A. Smith has so conditioned himself to see hatred and racism under every rock, he took the NFL commissioner’s very neutral statement as some sort of attack on black players (most of the players in the NFL are black. By far most of those who are protesting the anthem by not standing and placing their hands over their hearts are black).

You people don’t tell my people what to do, think or say. Only my people can tell my people what to do, think or say.

Well, here’s the problem with that kind of thinking: We can’t be Americans if only part of us want to be. (Related: Are we nearing civil war?)

The American Right is certainly not blameless, but the bulk of today’s violent political division has been inculcated, spread and fomented by the Marxist Left, Charlottesville notwithstanding.

Bankrolled by extremist billionaires like George Soros, Alt-Left groups like Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street and others have sprung up in recent years, attacking American history and traditions as illegitimate, corrupt and ideologically inferior. Their members show up at political rallies and events with the specific goal of shutting down speech they have deemed “racist” and “bigoted,” even though it’s not.

One Antifa organizer told CNN: “The idea in Antifa is that we go where they (right-wingers) go. That hate speech is not free speech. That if you are endangering people with what you say and the actions that are behind them, then you do not have the right to do that.

“And so we go to cause conflict, to shut them down where they are, because we don’t believe that Nazis or fascists of any stripe should have a mouthpiece.”

That is precisely Steven A. Smith’s mentality, as well as the mentality of those who agree with him. They really believe that certain Americans — be it due to their skin color, political beliefs, cultural leanings or social attitudes — don’t have a right to express themselves under the same First Amendment they use, and that they, by some divine authority, have been empowered to decide what speech and what viewpoints are valid.

The Left’s goal is nothing short of the complete overthrow of traditional America, and they’re using every means possible — race, politics and pop culture — to divide us so that they can conquer us.

They can’t be allowed to succeed."

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-16-americans-are-being-manipulate-into-hating-one-another-so-that-the-left-can-usher-in-an-authoritarian-government-dont-fall-for-it.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

Mister ET
17th August 2017, 10:22
The Left’s goal is...
...to find people like you that hand over their power by endlessly whining about how this conspiracy and that conspiracy is ruining their lives.

Get a grip. You are responsible for who, what and when you are, Thank you very much but I have had all the Bubu I care to read for a lifetime.

Innocent Warrior
17th August 2017, 11:09
The Left’s goal is...
....

Mister ET, please remove ad hominems from your post - cheers.

GrnEggsNHam
17th August 2017, 12:07
The Left’s goal is...
...to find people like you that hand over their power by endlessly whining about how this conspiracy and that conspiracy is ruining their lives.

Get a grip. You are responsible for who, what and when you are, Thank you very much but I have had all the Bubu I care to read for a lifetime.

The part you quoted is the beginning of the final statement from the author of the article and not from the OP(Bubu). You'll come to find out that there are several posters who create threads like this on the forum. It's almost like a news service where posters copy and paste articles from alternative news sites they deem worthy. I don't mind it and sometimes you find a tidbit of useful information :sherlock:.

"The Left’s goal is nothing short of the complete overthrow of traditional America, and they’re using every means possible — race, politics and pop culture — to divide us so that they can conquer us.

They can’t be allowed to succeed.

J.D. Heyes is a senior writer for NaturalNews.com and NewsTarget.com, as well as editor of The National Sentinel."

pyrangello
17th August 2017, 13:37
Well I did something I have wanted to do for a long time, canceled our satellite tv subscription, I have had quite enough, still watch movies on dvd but thats it, If I want to watch football or glf will go to the local pub here. So I have npt seen any of the coverage except for what I read on the internet sites I trust. Found one site that I thought was interesting with the entire charlotte deal. The air bags never deployed when that assxxxx hit all those people. Yep all orchestrated in my opinion.

Bubu
17th August 2017, 15:23
The Left’s goal is...
...to find people like you that hand over their power by endlessly whining about how this conspiracy and that conspiracy is ruining their lives.

Get a grip. You are responsible for who, what and when you are, Thank you very much but I have had all the Bubu I care to read for a lifetime.

Mister Et, I think you dont have the grip of the thread. But its my fault I failed to put the proper quote marks.

Logos1350
17th August 2017, 20:07
I very much enjoyed your post. You are very well spoken and your mind is clear and organized. You're thoughtful, and I like that. I must confess, however, that I am not real keen on the "anti-left" sentiment. Your use of the term "alt-left" in particular confuses me. The term "alt-right" was coined by a white supremacist in an attempt rebrand his movement. Since then, certain people have adopted the label for themselves. It's a euphemism designed to clean up their image for public consumption. There is simply nothing equivalent on the other side; NOBODY refers to themselves as "alt-left". I would hesitate to foist upon someone a made-up term that implies they seek to rebrand themselves when they do NOT. That, indeed, is a meaningful and material distinction between "right" and "left"--as you use the terms.

Logos1350
17th August 2017, 20:31
I would also urge to reconsider this whole "Right/Left" thing. I'm convinced there really is an authoritarian government in the offing, and the people pushing it couldn't give two figs whether we think it's coming from the "right" or the "left". Frankly, I think this whole "right/left" thing is a well organized distraction. I see republicans and democrats as a single two-headed monster, and SOMEONE out there just LOVES that so much of our attention is focused on some fake rivalry between the two. So long as everyone is captivated in this "winning and losing" mindset amongst ourselves, then no one steps back, looks around, and takes in the bigger picture. The "Orwellian State" won't come from the "left" or the "right". It will continue to sneak up from behind, exactly as it has been doing all along.

Logos1350
17th August 2017, 20:48
I enjoyed your post.

Wind
17th August 2017, 21:55
As long as people play into the "us vs. them" narrative such as the thing with left vs. right then there's no real unity what so ever. At least awakened spiritual people should see beyond that. The only us. vs them there should be the awakened folks against the dark elite scum. Trump's presidency has increased the lunacy especially on social media, people seem to be more divided than in a long time. That's exactly what suits the powers that be, I'm surprised that many Americans fail to see that.

Bubu
17th August 2017, 22:50
I would also urge to reconsider this whole "Right/Left" thing. I'm convinced there really is an authoritarian government in the offing, and the people pushing it couldn't give two figs whether we think it's coming from the "right" or the "left". Frankly, I think this whole "right/left" thing is a well organized distraction. I see republicans and democrats as a single two-headed monster, and SOMEONE out there just LOVES that so much of our attention is focused on some fake rivalry between the two. So long as everyone is captivated in this "winning and losing" mindset amongst ourselves, then no one steps back, looks around, and takes in the bigger picture. The "Orwellian State" won't come from the "left" or the "right". It will continue to sneak up from behind, exactly as it has been doing all along.

the left and right thing is not my post I copy and pasted it. I failed to put the proper quotation mark have fixed it already. I'm not good in posting or maybe just lazy. So from now on I will make my own construction in that color to be clearer.

Glad that you enjoyed the post. And I realized that while my main purpose for posting this article is to remind people about the divide and conquer technique implemented on the masses. The article actually promote divide, with the left and right thing. I really dont care about this right and left thing I dont know exactly what they mean the only thing I know about them is that of people taking sides which is not good.

Bubu
17th August 2017, 23:01
As long as people play into the "us vs. them" narrative such as the thing with left vs. right then there's no real unity what so ever. At least awakened spiritual people should see beyond that. The only us. vs them there should be the awakened folks against the dark elite scum. Trump's presidency has increased the lunacy especially on social media, people seem to be more divided than in a long time. That's exactly what suits the powers that be, I'm surprised that many Americans fail to see that.

I totally agree with you. The thing that keeps people divided is the focusing in political issues. While everyone wants to do the right thing everyone believes in different and opposing things. It means we are accomplishing nothing against the controllers. Since one groups action oppose other groups action. And thats exactly what the elite wants. Its easy to make people confuse with so many issues, lies false flags stage event. I suggested in one of my post that the only thing that will keep us moving against the elite scums is to find a common goal. And I dont see that coming from political arena. It should be something that is natural to all humans but was forgotten. I guess everyone should start doing something for the strangers. Help them out of difficult situation. this might bring back that natural ingredient thats gonna defeat the elite scums. Its really simple . the elite are very few they cant fight the many so they make the many fight each other for them.
With kindness to everyone there will be no more fighting among the many and game over the many wins

Fellow Aspirant
18th August 2017, 01:31
How do you define "The Left"? Or does your simple ideological bias make every Boogie Man you disagree with have a "Left" source?

There are many threats to our soverign status. Look around.

A little more discernment would go a long way here.

B.

DeDukshyn
18th August 2017, 01:46
How do you define "The Left"? Or does your simple ideological bias make every Boogie Man you disagree with have a "Left" source?

There are many threats to our soverign status. Look around.

A little more discernment would go a long way here.

B.

Agreed. As soon as I see people continuing to use labels that generalize large groups of people, for whatever reason (skin colour, religion, political alignment), I consider that the speaker is not aware enough to understand that doing so plays into the game the controllers want. Often these speakers will say in subsequent posts something like "Oh yes I understand that", but yet their continued narrative shows that they don't truly believe that at all or their wording would be different, and due to this extreme lack of discernment I cannot remotely take seriously anything they post; I demand higher quality points of views, and more tact to believe that they too aren't just another pawn in that game - I don't listen much to pawns. There are many ways to start a dialogue or discuss political matters without paint large swaths of people due to their skin colour, religion, origin, political alignment or whatever without doing so -- it is a choice.

I agree that more discernment and less generalizing using terms that are not helpful except to a few who emotional are sided, would be greatly welcomed when discussing politically charged topics.

Helene West
18th August 2017, 01:48
Getting back to the OP, which was good, the gist to me was:

Black racism is real, it is predatory and it is not being acknowledged or confronted.
Conversely the psychological war currently being waged against caucasians, that we are inherently bad people and should just be made to shut up, is not being acknowledged or God forbid denounced as racist, fascist or oppressive.

One can say don't get sucked into the right/left paradigm.
But for the sake of linguistic convenience we have to be able to describe current events with eachother and these labels with some qualifications are linguistically convenient for the present, so we use them.

Like it or not currently the left are the 'useful idiots' of our international financial overlords just like the right were the 'useful idiots' from the '80s to the Patriot Act. Our overlords take turns using and abusing everyone.

But the point of the OP for which seems valid to me is that there is a concerted attack against anything caucasian, christian or traditional such as feeling that a mother/father family is the most ideal parenting unit (not always true but it is traditional so must be attacked)... The aim of black racists are to try and rob white people of whatever they can, the monuments are just the beginning...the aim is for you not enjoy your life, to be robbed of any comfortablity, robbed whether of your traditions or your self-respect, your children made uncomfortable or ashamed at school, or like the OP describes, you can't watch a bloody sportscast without a lecture from mr. black racist.

So if you belong to one of the groups under attack, what do you do? Affirmations? Confront your 'shadow' side? (as posted elsewhere by naturally a 'world citizen'), censor eachother as how to speak and how not to speak -'don't fall into the left / right paradigm!'

I say let it all hang out. Now is the time, the time to express what you really feel Because You Are Not Crazy and reach out more to neighbors and family because if you're thinking it someone else is as well...

jake gittes
18th August 2017, 02:42
Steven A Smith is an idiot. He plays the race card all the time, which makes him racist.

Bubu
18th August 2017, 09:21
How do you define "The Left"? Or does your simple ideological bias make every Boogie Man you disagree with have a "Left" source?

There are many threats to our soverign status. Look around.

A little more discernment would go a long way here.

B.

I dont know what left is other than its the opposite of right. Maybe ask the author I am just trying to remind people not to fall for the left right thing. maybe a little discernment will make you have a grip of what i am into :bigsmile:

ghostrider
18th August 2017, 18:11
Predicted by Edward Meier, America will have two civil wars the second shortly after the first and the country will be divided into five sectors, religious sectarians will play a role ... The Plejaren ( watchers) have been spot on for 13,500 years... Every time they mentor the prophet of each epoch, the path of earth humanity marches straight into the train wreck they warn about ... this epoch is no different ...

Bubu
19th August 2017, 01:05
Predicted by Edward Meier, America will have two civil wars the second shortly after the first and the country will be divided into five sectors, religious sectarians will play a role ... The Plejaren ( watchers) have been spot on for 13,500 years... Every time they mentor the prophet of each epoch, the path of earth humanity marches straight into the train wreck they warn about ... this epoch is no different ...

unfolding events seems to point ti that direction.

pyrangello
21st August 2017, 16:15
Look at the professional signs, look at the professional banners, Look at all the people getting paid to protest ,my god there were a group protesting a bust of Christopher Columbus in Detroit last Friday. LOL, you have to be kidding me , but not is your getting paid right?

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August 17, 2017
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My take on things is its only pointed in that direction if you pay people to do it, 99% of society wants to live in peace, not upheaval and chaos, but if the only news you get is from the chaos controlled crowd , you have to see thru the pee hole of the lens for a clear view.Don't get sucked into the vortex , stay the course and recognize the props by design to make it seem out of order.

conk
22nd August 2017, 19:20
There does seem to be an agenda with divisiveness and separatism at it's core. I do not think you can blame the left entirely, as the conservatives play a role as well. Heck, the left/right set up is part of the agenda. One against the other, with 'them' goading us on. It's all a small part of the vastly larger attempt to keep us ignorant about our very existence as magnificent splinters of God. Black and white, hot and cold, Dem and Rep, Christians and Muslims, Up there and down here. In fact everything is simply a spot on the huge electromagnetic spectrum, variances up and down the scale, but not discretely different opposites. There are no opposites, just perceptions of our place in space and time. Everything is God. There is nothing that is not God. If we're always fighting over which end of the scale is right, then we'll never understand how much power we command; that we don't need to seek salvation from some god, government, or institution.

Chester
22nd August 2017, 21:33
I very much enjoyed your post. You are very well spoken and your mind is clear and organized. You're thoughtful, and I like that. I must confess, however, that I am not real keen on the "anti-left" sentiment. Your use of the term "alt-left" in particular confuses me. The term "alt-right" was coined by a white supremacist in an attempt rebrand his movement. Since then, certain people have adopted the label for themselves. It's a euphemism designed to clean up their image for public consumption. There is simply nothing equivalent on the other side; NOBODY refers to themselves as "alt-left". I would hesitate to foist upon someone a made-up term that implies they seek to rebrand themselves when they do NOT. That, indeed, is a meaningful and material distinction between "right" and "left"--as you use the terms.

Actually, this is a term "Alt-Left" that has come into being and as best I know it was coined by Sean Hannity. He also defines what he means by that term and indeed there is a very obvious group (though not a group folks wittingly join) of which are radical left and so Bubu nailed it.

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I would also urge to reconsider this whole "Right/Left" thing. I'm convinced there really is an authoritarian government in the offing, and the people pushing it couldn't give two figs whether we think it's coming from the "right" or the "left". Frankly, I think this whole "right/left" thing is a well organized distraction. I see republicans and democrats as a single two-headed monster, and SOMEONE out there just LOVES that so much of our attention is focused on some fake rivalry between the two. So long as everyone is captivated in this "winning and losing" mindset amongst ourselves, then no one steps back, looks around, and takes in the bigger picture. The "Orwellian State" won't come from the "left" or the "right". It will continue to sneak up from behind, exactly as it has been doing all along.

and just to add... I agree with this whole heartedly.

Chester
22nd August 2017, 21:38
How do you define "The Left"? Or does your simple ideological bias make every Boogie Man you disagree with have a "Left" source?

There are many threats to our soverign status. Look around.

A little more discernment would go a long way here.

B.

Agreed. As soon as I see people continuing to use labels that generalize large groups of people, for whatever reason (skin colour, religion, political alignment)

The Alt Right tend more towards christian white based nationalism whereas the Alt Left make everything about some type of identity based on skin color, economic class, religion, nationality, gender, sexual preference and gender identity preference.

I like each of us to be measured by our actions individually (which also includes words).

Sadly there's both "alts" and I believe that was the gist of what Bubu posted about.

DeDukshyn
22nd August 2017, 22:57
How do you define "The Left"? Or does your simple ideological bias make every Boogie Man you disagree with have a "Left" source?

There are many threats to our soverign status. Look around.

A little more discernment would go a long way here.

B.

Agreed. As soon as I see people continuing to use labels that generalize large groups of people, for whatever reason (skin colour, religion, political alignment)

The Alt Right tend more towards christian white based nationalism whereas the Alt Left make everything about some type of identity based on skin color, economic class, religion, nationality, gender, sexual preference and gender identity preference.

I like each of us to be measured by our actions individually (which also includes words).

Sadly there's both "alts" and I believe that was the gist of what Bubu posted about.


That's a bit like making reference to a subgroup of black people for any reason and calling them the "alt-blacks" -- there is still stereotyping and generalization happening regarding a specific group of people who by definition of their skin are indeed black.

Bubu made no indication about any alt group (but I am not saying he didn't intend to refer to one, he most likely did) and that is the gist of my issue. While "alt-blacks" might be a group of blacks comprised of people who I do not appreciate for some reason (let say this group is comprised of black skinned criminals specifically), would I not be in the wrong for merely referring to them only as "black people" when speaking negatively about this one specific groups behaviour (the alt-black criminals)? Would I not be causing a divide between myself, my view and all of black people? It would show me as uneducated for one, perhaps as a bigot, or someone with malicious intent, or perhaps as a pawn to someone else's game who has the intent to drive discord between blacks and non blacks.

BTW, the bias between your view on "right vs left" is showing in your description of the two groups :) The first group you liken to having a state of "christianity" and "nationalism" (completely neutral connotations - almost positive) and the second you refer to sweepingly describes an action that they "make everything" about blah, blah, blah (negative connotations - content at this point doesn't matter). The subconscious comes out more easily than expected at times - something Freud understood very well.

That said, I do actually agree that using terms like "alt-right" and "alt-left" do work to be less stigmatizingly sweeping across huge groups of people - even to those in whom the statement was not intended to apply to, but I don't see those terms used often.

Anyway, we can go back to topic, I just wanted to say that; I have hopes that the quality and accuracy of someones written intention will improve the quality of the discussion level on any and all topics. Especially important, I believe, when discussing things like religion, and political alignment :)

pyrangello
23rd August 2017, 13:09
How about instead of right or left we just go with individuals who are productive and want to contribute to society for the themselves and others and those who are the ones that feel they are owed and everything should be equal without putting in the same effort.

One of my closest friends told me a few years ago, Doctors make to much money . i was telling him how my one buddy has done 25,000 surgeries and saved countless lives. Also told him how his personal liability insurance went from 25k to 50 k a year for him to pay personally every year in 10 years time. My buddy said I was lying and he makes to much money. I just wanted to bang my head on the wall in disbelief how ignorant my friend was, and oh yes he hates this president too.

Then another friend of mine has one son who is 35 years old , been in college 8 years and has no intentions of ever leaving college or getting a job.When he speaks to his parents he throws the F bomb at them like a drunken sailor in disrespect.I told his father no more on that . This young man or kid is just waiting for the parents to kick so he can inherit their money, he already went thru his trust money. His mom says he a genius , I have other opinions of him. At the end of the day though, its the individuals with power and money or position that wish to divide us to empower themselves , because after all if we ever did come together as one to assist and take care of each other why would we need them and they know that and capitalize on that and NEVER want us to come together, so they issue titles of importance to individuals and groups,boost the ego and make them want more. Those working and trying to live a decent , honest living ,are to busy contributing than worrying about feeding the ego ? Margaret Thatcher once said : "The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of others peoples money." On a principle of just numbers without any other factors that statement is like a church bell .

I should add I mean no disrespect to those who truly need help or assistance. Safety nets are built in place from both groups for individuals who truly need a hand up. And there should be , not everything is perfect and there are so many situations beyond our control . And we should assist those who have some unfortunate event happened in their lives that truly need help.

Chester
23rd August 2017, 14:44
So what if, to facilitate a discussion which uses words to point to things that (ideas, etc) that make understanding simpler and assist with economy in words?

Face it - folks use labels. So to refer to those labels and to describe as best one can what the users of those labels mean facilitates discussion of the technique and process of using labels.

If a male white guy approximately 6 foot tall walked up to my wife and slammed her on the head and then ran off... does anyone think that I should tell the police that "something" accosted my wife?

Labels have a usage and can and should be used.

The term "label" is also a label itself. And so misuse or abuse of "labeling" should be pointed out, yet proper usage of labeling should be appreciated and respected.

What I have experienced from the "Alt-Left" and much of the "fringe Alt-Left" far more than I have experienced from anything I have seen on the right all the way up to the "extreme Alt-Right" is the demonization of anyone who says a word about any "group" (which would be identified by various labels) as wrong and not just wrong, but that their speech should be barred, censured, disallowed... which is ridiculous.

Just because I might say the word "gay" as part of a description of one of my friends to another of my friends (knowing full well I fully appreciate and respect my friends sexual preference and knowing full well not just what's in my heart but what has been my words and actions related to the defense of everyone's right to decide their sexual preference), does not make me a "bad guy." Yet this is what much of the media and the PC culture is doing now and it is a fact that well over 90% of the folks who do this happen to be lefties. Face it because its true.

But just because that is a fact and just because I and many others have observed this and that I and many others have spoken about it, does not mean we demonize the Left or the Alt-Left because... and I will speak for myself, I point out this correlation and pattern and yet I do not tell them they cannot speak their own views and opinions. I simply attempt to point out to them that by doing so, they create a barrier to the solution.

What solution would that be? That we assess others based on their individual track records while simultaneously considering both their education and previous life circumstances and then consider how best we can assist them to raise their own expression of personal responsibility in being a positive part of a civilized world.

If we cannot point out the damage caused by the usage of identity politics and how the young and vulnerable are so susceptible to buying into all that and if we cannot point out the impossible to deny correlation between the usage of identity politics and those whose political ideologies are lean left, left and then extreme left, then we will be greatly held back from every getting past this obstacle to achieving a world of peace.

Raven
23rd August 2017, 18:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8xAdPQuyPo&feature=share
brief interesting clip that I was glad a friend posted re Charlottesville

Chester
24th August 2017, 03:33
It will not end until the identity politics scam ends - a scam perpetrated by the democrats/left

start at 3:05 and listen for 21 seconds

kGPRhzz--eY

DNA
24th August 2017, 09:15
I just saw a random clip/news feed that stated that 22 million Americans support Neo-Nazi-ism.
There is no way that is true, this is more lies feeding the antifa hate machine.
Giving them the idea that their cause is true and their goals are noble.


Neo Nazi racism exists on such a miniscule scale as to be so politically insignificant it is not even funny.
The only Nazis the liberals need to worry about are the ones in the deep state controlling their media feed.

pyrangello
25th August 2017, 15:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8xA...&feature=share I re-posted Ravens u tube link, For those who are skeptical, watch this , this American has it pegged and he's funny too. On the ground reporting of whats really happening! Salute to him!

Jayke
26th August 2017, 14:43
Anyway, we can go back to topic, I just wanted to say that; I have hopes that the quality and accuracy of someones written intention will improve the quality of the discussion level on any and all topics. Especially important, I believe, when discussing things like religion, and political alignment :)

I always recommend people to study the Clare Graves system of character development (https://www.amazon.com/Levels-Human-Existence-Clare-Graves/dp/097247420X) when it comes to predictive modelling of various groups/types of people. One of Clare Graves students was Wyatt Woodsmall, who was one of the first certified NLP training trainers when NLP was first emerging as a field. John Grinder (a co-founder of NLP), was a CIA green beret and involved Woodsmall in teaching the Clare Graves system of behavioural modelling to the CIA. When combined with another method of personality profiling developed by the CIA in the 60's-70's, the Gittinger Personality Assessment System (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_Assessment_System), you can develop a really nuanced understanding of behavioural systems in government, politics, religion etc. It wouldn't surprise me if Gittingers PAS and the Clare Graves system form the foundation of the CIA's eagle eye spying systems (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1059786/) that gather everyone's google and facebook data to plug into their predictive, supercomputer, modelling scenarios; an aid in deciding which groups they can play against each other to create maximum chaos and division.

Anyway, super basic breakdown of the Clare Graves model:

Level 4 - Bible Belt republicans (traditional left)
Level 5 - Self serving democrats (traditional right)
Level 6 - New Age, airy fairy hipsters (Alt left)
Level 7 - Self Soverign Conspiracy nuts (Alt right)

Interestingly, Clare Graves mentions that the level 4,5,6 triad is where the dynamics of Orwels 1984 emerge. The herd that follow authority (level 4), the despotic, self proclaimed overlords (level 5), and the double speak spin doctors that use labels to proclaim the moral high ground while really just finding justification for their self entitled hedonistic and amoral lifestyles (level 6).

An example of a level 7 country would be Russia--more interested in preserving their self sovereignty--than starting wars around the world to impose their own ideas of democracy on other countries, such as the USA has a history of doing. Russia made the transition out of the 4,5,6 dynamic when it shook off its soviet era communism. Hopefully the leaders of the USA will eventually see sense and a smooth transition can be made to a higher, more humanistic, level of being in the world.