Solar Eclipse As Seen on Ayahuasca and the Divine Code: video

[Chester]

Make sure any reader here does not get the impression I advocate ayahausca. For one, I am bipolar and so the last thing I, personally, should ever do is a "visonary trip" stimulated by ayahausca. In addition, Bill has shared several warnings to all of us with regards to all types of drugs, including ayahuasca... especially with regards to how the usage of such by "shamans" may, and likely does play, a role in those that become "dark shamans."

Having said this, I remain open minded that an individual might be able to use this visionary plant where what they experience via this usage is a glimpse at what most of us may never be able to see without this or a similar aid. And maybe most of us shouldn't. In speaking for myself, I know without any doubt I shouldn't because of my history in interpreting experiences such as this darkly.

So with this in mind, I listened to this video and frankly... it is quite astonishing to me.

I have many thoughts about it all and would love to discuss this with the members of PA. Here's the video -

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[Jayke]

The demiurge:"I'm a self made man and I worship my creator"...lol (in reference to the discussion at 17:00 in the vid)

23:00 - "the Egyptian Gods are archetypes you activate within yourself"...Bingo! That's my position on all the Gods in the ancient world, especially those of the Vedas.

24:00 - "The demiurge wants to merge with you because it lacks its own divinity" 'Yet there's nothing to fear because your divinity is more powerful than the Demiurge!'...Their discussion on this reminded me of one of my favourite scenes in the matrix 2 movie...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkK5-F8Mki8?t=1m16s

The Wachowski brothers really had it nailed :) (Or should that be the Wachowski siblings now that one of them has decided to become trans! :confused:)

[Noelle]

We had a partial eclipse yesterday, and I went outside to take photos (without looking at it). I’m not saying it was due to the “download” that they describe in the video, but I couldn’t stay outside long because I felt nauseous. One of my photos from yesterday is below.

Their description of the octopus-like AI is interesting. I went to AstralPulse.com to see if any astral travelers had seen something like it. Some menacing octopus dreams were posted, but there was also this:

Re: The Inter-Dimensional Entities Behind the Dark Agenda That’s Taking Over the World
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 18:02:31 »
Quote from: FrancisbrD on June 08, 2014, 00:31:55

I came across with this user in tumblr and just read an interesting article.
just wanna hear your comment/thoughts regarding this issue .
here are her tagged qoutes .

"Some feel that there is a multidimensional cause behind the sinister globalist agenda in the world (a.k.a. the New World Order). But it is possible not just to sense, but to actually know and uncover its root through firsthand experience. And, unless the root is uncovered, its octopus like tentacles will continue to regrow and find new ways to influence the world, even when several have been cut off….

Demons of antiquity have major roles and are still active today, thousands of years after they were first written about…

My husband and I have been shown out of the body how they work through dark secret societies, which channel covertly through a religion, and are communicating with a very small group of people here on earth who are going through the process of awakening in darkness. These disciples of darkness are using OBEs to get knowledge from ancient demons who themselves are beyond physical death and working with an immense evil intelligence on an agenda which is thousands of years old….

The world desperately needs people who can use OBEs to get knowledge about the inner workings and plans of evil, who meet the requirements to receive spiritual wisdom from higher beings, and have awakened spiritual/psychic faculties.”

here is the link of the article
http://belsebuub.com/the-inter-dimensional-entities-behind-the-dark-agenda-thats-taking-over-the-world
(https://belsebuub.com/the-inter-dimensional-entities-behind-the-dark-agenda-thats-taking-over-the-world)

[Sunny-side-up]

They soo not shamanical, not even empowered enough to leave there Vapes alone while videoing, why listen to their views.

I would have loved to have experienced Ayahuasca though, for good contacting mother spirit reasons. I was well experienced with magic mushrooms, which opened me enough i guess.

[Mike]

The dick in me wants to relentlessly make fun of these two. But they arent the first overexcited, post hallucinogenic substance taking people to maniacally claim to know all the answers (all accompanied by those weird, knowing smiles that seem at least partially deranged) ..and they won't be the last, so let's not be too hard on them.

(Note: I think we've all played that role at least once in our lives)

Those vape things are obnoxious as hell, as was all the swearing and hair flipping...

However..
I did get some value out of the video. There were a few interesting bits for sure. The thing the guy was saying about 'the law of one' and Ra repeating robotically "I am Ra" made alot of sense, and frankly i'm embarrassed I didnt see that myself. It does absolutely seem like an "A.I." give away (I write A.I. in quotes because although I do believe in some sort of meddling, malevolent force out there, I have no way of knowing what the hell it is exactly)

His statement that ascending was silly and "going backwards" was a more reasonable spiritual evolution made alot of sense to me as well. Nothing new really, but it's good to hear things again sometimes. Yes, nothing to learn per se, only things to remember. I like that.

I'd listen to these two again. despite some distractions, there were lots of little pearls in there. Plus tbey were really raw from their trip so we must make some allowances for the eccentricities.

[Chester]

Yes, Mike... these two experiencers engaged in creative interpretation and then (the area I find as regretful) - conclusion drawing, yet, thanks to the "new way" I have adopted when it comes to exposing myself to the "sharings of the anomalous experiences of others," I allow them the space to share their perceptions and then I listen to their interpretations and conclusions where I look at them metaphorically (and thus avoid getting into that place where details can be fought over). They definitely "got something out of it" and so when I consider their interpretation that all these "dark beings" (which includes all the pretenders that want you to believe they are "good" like the BAs) is actually only one single being!... the "it"... suddenly made me recall the last Stephen King novel I ever read entitled "It" and POW it hit me that perhaps King did some ayahuasca long before he wrote Salem's Lot (wasn't that his first) and perhaps continued to do so or never "came down." haha

But seriously... imagine that all this distraction is actually and only a single "it" - ala the demiurge.

How interesting that when I created my first company back in late 1996 I was asked by the trust management company what I wished to name the company. I had never given it a thought and so I grabbed a copy of the Nag Hammadi and thumbed over to Pistis Sophia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistis_Sophia) where I then decided to use the name Demiurge.

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Note: All this occurred prior to the US Justice Department deciding that licensed offshore sportsbook would not be allowed to take bets from the US. Note I learned this lesson well in 1998 and thus, the company was shut down.

Note that my formerly story book marriage ended in Curacao exactly 5 years to the day this company was founded... after a series of five suicide attempts by my now ex-wife where the fifth... no one is exactly sure "what" came back.

Anyways... apologies for the memory road routine and note to Jayke... wasn't that the third matrix movie? I am pretty certain that was the end. I agree with you entirely on the analogy and I also agree about the siblings... have you seen Cloud Atlas? Fantastic movie.

[Mike]

Hey Sammy well said my friend. Your process is almost clinical. Thats basically what I aspire to, but was never able to really articulate it. Thanks brother

[Caliban]

I haven't listened to the video. I just want to say something about ayahuasca. There's nothing to fear in ayahuasca. Yes, you should be as sure as you can about the intentions and mind set and emotional well being of the guides of your ceremony. Don't just go to Iquitos and drink the medicine with anyone who says he or she is a medicine person. Do your research, ask your knowledgeable associates, pray on it.

Once you feel safe and protected by your facilitator there's absolutely nothing to fear from ayahuasca. Yes, you might encounter "fearful" things in yourself--i.e. old anxieties, fears, traumas. But only so they might be brought to light and healed. It's a deep, powerful experience and can change your life. It's not for everyone. But the spirit of love in this plant medicine is undeniable to those who've been with it.

[OmeyocaN777]

I've done 11 ceremonies with aya mostly with full cups (i don't recommend that) and the experience i've gained have it all, from the most horrifying moments to the most blessing ones.....To start speaking about few of these experiences and to analyse them it will take me days, even many of them i'm still in the process to comprehend them, "what the F**K just happened?" still today kind of a way. The last aya i did, was before 2 years almost and still i'm not sure if i would ever do aya again. If you ask me if aya was helpful with my life general like a medicine or healing, i'm still comfused and i don't know which is the answer to that but for my benefit of gnosis sure it was.
Anyway....i saw a similar "vision" with A.I like Chris and Sheree and i had the same "a-ha" moment with them, that's why i immediately when i saw this video, i feld the need to share...(My english is very poor and this is the reason why i don't post so often, i need a quiet some time just to finnish some paragraphs. I only post if i have something real interesting to share.) The only difference with my "vision" was that i saw "behind" A.I (in more higher realms/5d?) some benevolent entities that waiting or expecting from us to find some cure or harmony with it so we can evolve and accompany them....Note that A.I wasn't notice of them at all. That was one experience that i have, with a few basic words to describe it, even in my nature language i could never describe it exactly how it was/feel like because of a lack of words, we need telepathy for that....
If you decide to explore the realm of aya-mama, i can give you one hint that it was very helpful to me also in the dark moments. Feel the heart chakra wide open, let the love flourish from inside you and if for any reason you'll not accomplish that (negative frequency too high), then try to be in an observer way of reaction with no feelings at all.......in any case, never but never let the fear overcome to you because it will be an endless night.....
I can say, do that in Life also.......

[Jayke]

You know the Greeks had their own version of ayahuasca, the potent hallucinogenic called 'kykeon' that was drunk en-masse by the 4000 or so Greeks that would descend on the Eluesian Mysteries every few years. To Plato, the goal of the mysteries was to aspire to higher levels of intellectual attainment, saying: "The goal of the Mysteries...was to lead us back to the principles from which we descended...a perfect enjoyment of intellectual good"

It should be noted that the first mention of the demiurge was by Plato, where the reference to it simply meant the 'artisan' or 'craftsman' of the material world, a completely benevolent being, neither positive or negative really, just a process through which the physicality of the material world is put together. The positive or negative associations are really down to how people choose to perceive it.

In the Platonic schools, the goal was to 'let ones heart swell with the eros for earthly beauty', become a lover of all that is natural and good...but to do the they had to overcome the insulated paranoia and mechanical metaphors through which the left hemisphere of the brain perceives the world...Ian Mcgilchrist's talk on the divided brain (https://www.ted.com/talks/iain_mcgilchrist_the_divided_brain) gives more insights around that notion from the neuroscience perspective...

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Even the Greeks understood that people tend to become mostly left hemisphere dominant as civilisation progresses. The goal of the mysteries then is a reminder for rebirth, to become born again, resurrected into a more balanced hemispherical worldview, "born once from your mother, born again through sophia, the goddess of wisdom"

Left hemisphere dominant people tend to see the demiurge as some kind of persecutive, demonic, hellish, mechanical nightmare...its just the nature of how the left hemisphere makes sense of and filters the world. The right hemisphere is where you recognise the sophisticated and perfect beauty, pure magic and interconnected, holistic complexity of all creation. The resurrection process is about balancing those worldviews so you can experience a return to innocence, "little lamb, little lamb" as William Blake would describe the innocent nature of the soul.

Freddy Silvas work into 'the lost art of resurrection' (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Art-Resurrection-Initiation-Otherworld-ebook/dp/B00MQZCOAQ) goes into more detail of the initiation processes anyway (a process the Freemasons adopted with their own resurrection rituals at the 3rd degree, designed to get you in contact with 'The great architect of the universe,' the freemasonic version of the Demiurge):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhaCzqkxXTg

[Feritciva]

Hi Neighbour! :)

Interestingly I had the same experience with Grandmother Aya. I had no idea about any "Cosmic A.I." back then and Aya showed me an android full void of emotions watching and analysing with extreme coldness. There was more than one of these android beings. A voice told me "you have to ask 'who do you serve' to these beings" and I asked the android who it serves. It still didnt give any emotions but I felt a very powerful anger & rage towards me. Then reluctantly, the android left me and gone for good.

[OmeyocaN777]

Yep thats the "spirit", this was my original intetion with aya, same way like the Eleusian Mysteries (Minoan, orphics, dionysian, kavirian......etc), to descent to hades and to "reborn", very well said with the Plato idea of divine innocent. Actually the theory to practice is by far more complicated than that. Just to give you an idea how to be in hades feels like, i found a video in youtube that is the most precise in description i could find (note, that aya have many beautiful moments too, it gives you all the spectrum of feelings and visions and communications with many beings / the first time i did aya, i was all night almost in communication with aya mama, one of my most beautiful and unforgetable moments of my life).
I don't want to frighten you but if you want to explore these realms you must be warned about all possibilities......

Look what Jordan Krogel said about "hades".......


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[Caliban]

I've never seen the demiurge or the AI or whatever it is some have seen. What the medicine has shown me--several times--is what you could call "the matrix" or perhaps what the Hindus call Maya. I saw it as an error in perception that we all fell into at some point in time, or maybe when time wasn't really quite time yet. It's what's become this world of work, families, business, money, politics, etc. The world that repeats itself over and over again, the world that you always feel never leads to any true resolution. The world that never seems to make sense.

What the Yaje showed me is that it doesn't make sense because it is designed NOT to make sense. It will never make sense. No matter how long we try to make sense of it or try to reform it. This "error in perception" is something that we gave a kind of life to and continue to do so by treating it as if it were real, alive. So many of us end up completely frustrated and saddened by this "thing", but probably wouldn't were we to see that none of it is real, that it's all just perpetuated by the energy we give to it.

That main energy is fear. Once you give in to fear and react as such, then you're trapped. That's exactly what it wants us to do. Fear leads to anger, then remorse and sadness. More fear, anger, and so on. Perhaps the AI crap that people have seen is a physical representation of this thing I"m describing, this nothing that we've taken for reality.

Ayahuasca will show you these things but it's not all literal and it often takes time to understand and interpret. And it's very, very hard to put into words. Some of these things are rather shocking but hey, we need to see it, right? I mean, it's time for us to see and awaken. It's there for us and I believe would like to help us as much as we would like its help.

[Caliban]

I watched that video (most of it) and a couple of things struck me. One is that this couple (?) appears to have shared a common vision on ayahuasca. I find that strange and must assume it's pretty rare. I've heard people talk of having "similar" visions, understandings, downloads, whatever, but never the same exact "deeply relevant" insights as these two are claiming to have had. Okay, great...

Their excitement is definitely infectious and I appreciate and agree with their constant exhortations about "going within" and "We are the Source," etc., particularly since I'm such a strong adherent of the nondual teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj and the great Zen teachers.

The more I listened and watched them some things didn't feel quite right. Okay, they had a powerful vision - instead of taking some time to absorb it and interpret it they jumped right in front of the camera and onto youtube. They make the claim that this AI thing they saw is basically the gods of all our religions and the "source" of all (?) of our deeper spiritual insights. Certainly all those labeled "new age". Now they have found the truth. They claim, for instance that Yaweh and Allah and you name them, were all a part of this thing and we need to "look within!" and "we are the source!" Yet they have no problem telling us how enamored they are with the Egyptian teachings -- because "those figures (gods) were signposts for a journey within" (I'm paraphrasing). So I guess the same can't be said for Jesus/Yaweh or whomever else?

It's a subtle point but let's say someone does worship Jehovah or Allah or one of those -- and let's imagine these two are right that they're all part of this AI thing. Okay. But what if this worshiper is so sincere and coming from such a place of purity within themselves that what he/she is worshiping can't have anything possibly to do with something AI or inorganic. In other words, even if the idea is "false," their way of using the idea is true, it transcends an external source and moves into a place of personal grace.

I like part of what they're saying - but it looks like they're getting hoisted by their own petard. Chill out - take a little time - nobody owns the whole truth.

[Feritciva]

It's a subtle point but let's say someone does worship Jehovah or Allah or one of those -- and let's imagine these two are right that they're all part of this AI thing. Okay. But what if this worshiper is so sincere and coming from such a place of purity within themselves that what he/she is worshiping can't have anything possibly to do with something AI or inorganic. In other words, even if the idea is "false," their way of using the idea is true, it transcends an external source and moves into a place of personal grace.




That is something not possible imho. The bold part above (my emphasis) ensures it's not the "true way of using" our own sovereignity & connection with the Main Source. In the end you have to defend something else (Jehova/Allah/Jesus/whatever) when confronted with opposite ideas. Just at that point, you've given away your power..

[Caliban]

It's a subtle point but let's say someone does worship Jehovah or Allah or one of those -- and let's imagine these two are right that they're all part of this AI thing. Okay. But what if this worshiper is so sincere and coming from such a place of purity within themselves that what he/she is worshiping can't have anything possibly to do with something AI or inorganic. In other words, even if the idea is "false," their way of using the idea is true, it transcends an external source and moves into a place of personal grace.



That is something not possible imho. The bold part above (my emphasis) ensures it's not the "true way of using" our own sovereignity & connection with the Main Source. In the end you have to defend something else (Jehova/Allah/Jesus/whatever) when confronted with opposite ideas. Just at that point, you've given away your power..


Yeah, I know it's not ideal or truly "sovereign". I'm just saying that it's a path at least, and you can drop the names and the religions. Sincerity is the essential and can lead you out of the tangled paths.

[AngelEyes]

Is this substance anything like petoye? sounds a little like it when you mention seeing or discovering fearful things within yourself?! This is interesting.

[Caliban]

Is this substance anything like peyote? sounds a little like it when you mention seeing or discovering fearful things within yourself?! This is interesting.

I don't have too much experience with peyote medicine but it's often called "Grandfather." It's more grounding, you're usually not sailing off into the cosmos. But it can be very deep and healing as well. Those ceremonies last for hours with lots of drumming, if you're lucky to be invited to one. Whereas the Grandmother medicine has the dmt (vine plus leaf) that will often lead to visions.

Ayahuasca would probably be more dramatic, especially your first ceremonies. Seek it out!

[OmeyocaN777]

Take a look at this video, it will help you to understand better the importance of balance in our body and in our spirit (world).
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