Apocalypse soon? The interesting story of 'Commander Z'

[Bill Ryan]

I don't usually post things like this — there are 101 silly scare stories and predictions all over the net — but this one got my attention.

This is about a guy with the Marvel-Comics-like moniker of Commander Z.

Do listen to this interview with Mal Fabregas, just a week ago:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacR0rz5yQA

It's quite a story. The guy first came to attention when he accurately tweeted this year's Superbowl score... two days before the game.

http://projectavalon.net/Superbowl_score.gif

He then released a book:


https://amazon.com/Total-Annihilation-2018-D-Conflict/dp/152058315X

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51XAtOm3YCL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

I've not read the book yet, but I intend to. The interview with Fabregas is fascinating... not with him, but with someone who'd been in close touch with him, Royce Christyn.

One compelling correlation for me personally was the similarity with The Anglo-Saxon Mission, which many readers will know about, and which I'm convinced was authentic testimony.


The Anglo-Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission)

'Commander Z' only communicates by Tweet, and that's all here:


https://twitter.com/timewave666

And a PDF of that, so far (a very long one!) is here:


http://projectavalon.net/Commander_Z_Twitter.pdf

Members' thoughts might be interesting. I don't think this is 100% necessarily pure fiction.

[Cidersomerset]

Do listen to this interview with Mal Fabregas, just a week ago:

I'm listening to Veritas vids and will get to this one on your recommendation Bill.
I just posted a thread with Mal speaking to Jimmy Church which I found interesting.
But it did remind me of his vids which I listened to weekly , as with Red Ice a few
years ago. Since then there has been information overload for good or bad and
its sometimes difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, especially with all the
different interpretation and views.

Re: Fade 2 Black.708...'Host 2 Host'..with Mel Fabragas ( Veritas)....
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99487-Fade-2-Black.708...-Host-2-Host-..with-Mel-Fabragas---Veritas-....

[bearcow]

This reeks of dis info, the guy being interviewed confesses to having never met Commander Z face to face.

Would you go out on a limb and be the face man for a story such as this if you never met the guy? He also refers to Commander Z as his friend. It makes no sense.

Additionally, this commander Z is supposed to be the best remote viewer in the black ops world. If this were so he would be highly connected in the intelligence world. So why would he choose to have an unknown TV actor with no legitimate geopolitical, or exopolitical credentials be his mouthpiece?

The speaker, Royce Christyn has acted on Tv shows who's stars are clearly programmed multiples. Zoey 101 (Jamie Lynn Spears), Brittany's sister, and Wizards of Waverly Place (Selena Gomez)

Royce Christyn is most likely a programmed multiple himself or is at least highly suggestible.

[Jayke]

I agree with bearcow, very suspicious. I mean at 22 minutes in, did he say China would be the initiator of the nuclear war? Seriously? That defies all reason, it'd be more believable to hear Corey Goode and his crew of blue avians being initiators of a nuclear war, for China to start it would be suicide. Everyone outside of the U.S.A, who've been watching the coup against Trump unfold and the geopolitical shifts taking place around the rest of the world, realises that the only people desperate to start a nuclear war are the neocon crazies in Washington. China are masters of the long game, reserved and patient, it's highly unlikely they'd be drawn into making such a desperate move.

[The Moss Trooper]

I'm at a loss for words really, after listening to that.

Adrian, sorry, CommanderZ has fallen well short in his pick of a media representative. If that was Royce's best effort at getting over crucial information for humanity, then it's an epic fail. There were/are just enough hooks at the beginning of this 'testimony' to bend the ear, but beyond that, woeful.

I'm sorry, but that's a thumb's down from me.

[Marikins]

I was fool enough to buy the book. Probably the most outstanding BS is the idea that in the 1800s people lived well past 100. This implies that all tombstones and records have been altered to show a shorter lifespan. The second piece of baloney is that we had an advanced technology that resembled the Steam Punk culture, based on steam energy. There is no proof of this because, of course, all library records have been changed. A third piece of BS is that our singular gift, as humans, is to tell the future. Although we can make good Remote Viewing guesses, that is not, IMO. our strength. Our strength is our manifestation ability and unpredictability, i.e. creativity which has heretofore been kept under restraint.

I also have problems with the presentation. Why is it presented in an interview? I believe it is to lend it credence that it wouldn't otherwise have. I think the actor hired to front it is part of the psyop.

What was the purpose of this book? A test balloon? Or sheer fear porn? Since I believe creativity and manifestation are our strengths, I believe this was a half-a**ed attempt to short-circuit manifestation out of the matrix by attracting fringe manifesters to a fear-based fantasy.

[Bill Ryan]

Probably the most outstanding BS is the idea that in the 1800s people lived well past 100. This implies that all tombstones and records have been altered to show a shorter lifespan. The second piece of baloney is that we had an advanced technology that resembled the Steam Punk culture, based on steam energy.

Right. I had to rewind the interview to make sure I'd heard those correctly. :)

[WhiteLove]

I think it depends, but is unlikely true. I believe a moment of true love today is input that God uses to plant gifts of that in the future and when those gifts have been set by God, there is nothing anyone can do about that, because it has priority, it has to happen, a series of events need to unfold because they need to lead to God's gift's of love. I believe it is very important to understand that when you love it shapes the future accordingly. Your love impacts everything much more than you think.

[The Moss Trooper]

Whitelove:


Your love impacts everything much more than you think.

All hail to that. Thank you for that most timely reminder.

[prc]

I wouldn´t know if he is telling the truth or not. But so far he stopped twitting and disappeared. Why is that? Where did he get the superbowl results from? Answering this question might determine if he is an insider or an independent journalist.

Kind Regards

[Justplain]

The idea that the mantids only appeared around 1900 seems to contradict the ufo info that predates this. For instance, the evidence for negative alien/outsider involvement is evident in the descriptions of napoleon's invasion of moscow in the early 1800's where witness discriptions tell of an explosion and survivor illnesses that were the same as a nuclear bomb. Also, descriptions of events in the Vedas tell of epic airship battles. The final fall of Atlantis itself shows the marks of a prior human civilization that became dominated by evil, with likely alien input.

Some would say that the development of the global society has followed a script, that most countries have control mechanisms in place, like masonry and religions, that developed several hundred years, or longer, before 1900, showing an insidious design that well predates the timeline suggested by commander z.

This book and interview are cleverly using info already out there, true or not, about cloning, nanobots, stock market manipulations, trump's unexpected election victory, etc. The way this is presented, as aptly pointed out in other posts in this thread, make it less believable. A second party delivering the message in the interview, and the book narrative being an 'interview', hamstrings this tale. It is entertaining to some extent, though.

[Tyy1907]

We should be mindful of what state of mind we create when it comes to rumours of nuclear war. Our consciousnesses are very powerful tools that can be manipulated if we put our guard down.
I haven't listened yet but I plan to. Nailing the super bowl final score is interesting indeed. Apparently this guy is a remote viewer as well.

[Chuck]

Thanks Bill, I also would not normally entertain these types of messages but I do so now for the following reason.

The link here, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99455-Bryan-Kofron-THE-INSIDER-WHISTLE-BLOWER-you-ve-ALL-BEEN-WAITING-FOR is a testimony if true, changes everything in my opinion. I had not looked forward to hearing a testimony like this ever.

If technology such as ‘voice to skull’, hive mind, behavioral modification, remote neural monitoring and control is operational then … IT IS OVER!

If our loved ones, priests, teachers, judges, peace keepers, politicians, authority figures … ME… can be compromised at any time for any reason then there is no point of this experiment to continue. Because the inevitable end is to funnel life into a predictable program run by a few. Creativity will only exist within a small box. Some will say that exists now but this technology cements it in place for all our future. The wondrous unknown of human potential is erased. That is not life … or at least not life that I wish to be a part of.

Nuclear armageddon? Dunno. But it is not any worse than having lost control of the last sanctuary of freedom I have … my own mind.

Then again … nuclear armageddon might look the same to a remote viewer seeing the remains of an earth having undergone a kind of mitosis… with the archonic powers the proud custodians of a dead planet and Sophia, the Mother of Life, moving her children to sanctuary.

[DNA]

I think folks are jumping the gun here.
Almost all disease occurring in the 1800's and before were the result of starvation induced weakness in the immune system's capability.
Mankind routinely would starve before the advent of the McCormick reaper which gained widespread use in 1850 or so.
These periods of starvation, which would occur during the lean cold months would bring about massive outbreaks of disease that a healthy well nourished person would have never succumbed to in the first place.
With the rise in modern plumbing, clean water and food production the lifespan of the human being may very well have reached 150 or so if you imagine a world free of carcinogens, pollutions and vaccines. I think this is what they are inferring in the interview.




I applaud Bill for having the guts to bring up this kind of testimony knowing full well what it's reception would probably be.
I get the same reaction every time I discuss my personal opinion on what is coming.
For the record my personal opinion on what is coming mirror very much what Commander Z is talking about.
I'm of the opinion we need to worry less about WHO is trying to kill us and understand that they are indeed TRYING TO KILL US.
The Depopulation agenda is in full swing and about to be implemented on a world wide scale.
I've always been of the opinion that the agenda will be implemented by a bunch of rich guys who want the world that is currently dying to live past it's present expiration date so as their offspring can carry on their name.
I personally think it is that simple.


For folks living in the United States, I've triangulated three unconnected sources which offer the same opinion, even if they've never heard of one another.
Edgar Cayce, John Titor and John Moore.
I'm of the opinion that the safest place to live in the United States given the circumstances we are discussing here, would be the state of Nebraska.
Nebraska has no major city worthy of a nuclear strike.
Further more Nebraska is one of the absolute greatest US states in terms of food production. If one state could escape the Mad Max scenario, I believe Nebraska could be it.
Nebraska is listed by both Edgar Cayce and John Titor as a place where civilization exists after it fails everywhere else.
I will stop there.

[CurEus]

An hour wasted....

...there maaay be some small value for the ignorant but I don't feel it would resonate well with them or hold their attention. For those who are familiar with general conspiracy theory what was presented was weak and thin.

Remote viewing
Mantis alien overlords
Cloning leaders
Nanobots in the brain
Market collapse 2017-2018
China starts nuclear war
Pedophile agenda advances by normalizing homosexuality first
Radio waves dumbing us down
...and steampunk? Seriously!!!??

Much more thorough and credulous information available elsewhere on each topic.

[syrwong]

This man is a disinformant, I am afraid. The most suspicious part is precisely that got our attention on him – he was able to predict a match score.

Isn’t this the ploy of so many disinformants, to make a correct prediction to attract attention and then never be right again. Remember the unknown girl who predicted 311 then scared many with a few great quake predictions? C. High is also quite good at this, making correct but insignificant predictions, and always wrong when you bet on his financial scaremongering? You may ask how they could have known these, however small things to happen. Easy, as some insider says, the best way to predict the future is to create it.

For a real whistleblower who is constantly running for his life, taking time to make a sports prediction is an extravagance (so is writing a book). On the other hand, we know TPTB are pretty good in fixing sports matches, besides fixing world markets.

[Bill Ryan]

I applaud Bill for having the guts to bring up this kind of testimony knowing full well what it's reception would probably be.


Thank you! :bigsmile:

Two things had captured my attention:


The prediction of the Superbowl score. (A little hard to explain!)
The correlation with The Anglo Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission) (and other similar plausible material I've encountered).

I've NOT read the book, but I actually would like to.

If anyone comes across other interviews done by Royce Christyn, please do post them — not to promote the story, but just because it's more research information about all this.

[findingneo]

Thanks Bill. Just watched the video above just now on Commander Z, then ordered the book plus a book I have intended to buy for a while, Alien World Order. They will both take a month or so from the U.S.

Dr David Jacobs says in an interview that he thought the alien abductions began about 1930, which is not far off.

Carol Rosin, says that she did a whole presentation without knowing the presentation content, while I think Wernher Von Braun lay in his hospital bed (or something like that), and she was up in front of an audience, or journalists, anyway, she did not know anything about the subject, but Von Braun used tech then where she could hear his voice clearly in her head, way back then, and she did the presentation, repeating what he said. So I assume that is, voice to skull. And yes, there is the alleged whistle blower podcasts recently shared this week on Avalon, regarding voice to skull tech being experimented on humans.

Yes, remote viewing could see into the future, no problem by someone skilled at it. Probable future anyway, at that moment in time., as would forward progression done properly.

An EMP attack or our electronics knocked out by specific solar activity coming our way would also be very effective, but perhaps not fit so well with their plan.

Not good, no matter which way you look at it.

[Kryztian]

Two things had captured my attention:


The prediction of the Superbowl score. (A little hard to explain!)
The correlation with The Anglo Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission) (and other similar plausible material I've encountered).



Of course, if this was deep state disinfo, and not genuine whistle blower information, then the deep state would undoubtably know how to post foot ball scores to Twitter and time stamp them with a fake date.

Let me guess that there are many who take information like this into account on their stock market investments, and plenty of disinfo is posted in the conspiracy realm so that investors switch out of stocks to bonds, when it is in fact the bond market that is really going to experience a planned crash.

[Justplain]

As suggested above, if commander z is not the straight arrow he claims, and he actually serves the evil 'black hats' (i like how he tries to twist that term around!), and the black ops can see the future sometimes, or they can fix the super bowl results, then that could explain why commander z could get the score right in advance.

And, by the way, Lloyd Pye's starchild (dna analysis shows human mother and the rest unseen before, ie. alien) is an eight hundred year old physical evidence that abductions have been going on for eons, not since the early 1900s.

The assertion that humans lived two hundred years before the twentieth century is absurd. We know that parts of the historical records have been faked or omitted, but this assertion has no basis in any account i have ever read.

Although i like some of Edgar Casey's naturopathic readings, his predictions have by far been abject failures, so using him as a basis for measuring the accuracy of another prediction holds no water, imho.

The Anglo Saxon Mission is an interesting tale, and the depopulation agenda has been confirmed from many sources, however the timetable for that plan is already ten years expired. So the similarity of that story line with commander z's may be because it comes from the same fear mongering source.

Even though i have no doubt that the highest tech black ops have the means to depopulate the world right now, such as with biotech germs or nanotech, or as evidenced by the dustifying of the twin towers, they have not done so. They dont need a nuclear war to kill most of us off. I dont know why they havent pulled the trigger. Tptb seem to like to toy with the public, and play extensive mind games with the truth movement. They may not be so crazy to want to risk their own destruction by releasing something that could cause serious long term biospheric damage (ie. nuke war) or mutate to turn on everyone (ie. see the virus narrative in 'War for Planet of the Apes'). So perhaps tptb have to settle for manipulating markets, playing psyop chess and playing captain kirk with the ssp. I think commander z's account is in this vein.

In the meantime, we have to hope that a majority of tptb grow a conscience, and rejoin the human race to help raise us out of this mess.

[Cidersomerset]

If anyone comes across other interviews done by Royce Christyn, please
do post them — not to promote the story, but just because it's more research
information about all this.


There does not seem to be much about him other than his previous career
and even less about Commander z other than his twitter account.......


Commander Z @timewave666
https://twitter.com/timewave666

World War 3 Predictions - Commander Z - WWIII Begins in 2018

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Published on 14 Jan 2017

ORDER HERE: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MUAEDQH & join
COMMANDER Z ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/timewave666

"In this blockbuster new tell-all, a former high-ranking NATO military official
- using the pseudonym 'Commander Z' - blows the whistle off an inevitable
and planned global nuclear conflict designed to bring about a One World
Government in the year 2018. With access to classified documents, Commander
Z reveals the five locations that will be safe in the coming nuclear war. Without
knowing these locations, you will not be safe. Do not miss out on this incredibly
important book." -- Van Allen & Mabach Publishing House
Most accurate world war three predictions

====================================================
Royce Christyn [for Commander Z] | Confessions of a High-Ranking NATO Officer
http://veritasradio.blogspot.co.uk/

S y n o p s i s
Tonight, we discuss the testimony of a former high-ranking NATO military official -
using the pseudonym 'Commander Z' -- he blows the whistle on an inevitable and
planned global nuclear conflict designed to bring about a One World Government in
the year 2018. With access to classified documents, Commander Z has revealed the
5 locations that will be safe in the coming nuclear war. He says: "My book offers an
urgent warning to families -- moms, dads, sons and daughters -- to prepare for the
inevitable. Without my book and the critical information it contains, you will have
little chance of survival." -

Commander Z is a former high-ranking NATO officer with decades of experience
working in top secret programs. He is also a trained remote viewer. He has come
forward to tell his story, and share with the world the contents of over 100 pages of
top-secret classified documents he was shown. These documents contained
incredible and astonishing secrets about our world, our universe and plans for an
upcoming nuclear war and takeover.

B i o
Royce Christyn is a ground breaking film producer, actor, writer and director.
Christyn found success on such hit teen comedies as Nickelodeon's "Drake & Josh"
and "Zoey 101," which starred now country star Jamie Lynn Spears (the younger
and equally talented sister of Britney Spears). Christyn is perhaps best well known
in the acting world from his portrayal of "Manny", Selena Gomez's "magic made"
boyfriend on the Emmy Award winning Disney Channel Original Series "Wizards of
Waverly Place". Christyn (pronounced ("Christian") started to produce and direct.
One of his proudest accomplishments is his documentary film, "Out In The Open,"
which Christyn wrote and directed. The film was wildly successful and sits as one of
the top Amazon.com LGBT documentary films of all time. Since 2014, Christyn has
been a contributor to news outlets such as In Touch Weekly, Life & Style, Closer,
Contrast, and Paste Magazine. His interest in the paranormal, UFOs, and ("The
other side" is where his heart is - he suffered an NDE at the age of 16 which has
led him on a path of discovery of the world that sits outside of what is
considered 'normal'.

Royce Christyn
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2450852/

[AuCo]

They mentioned a war initiated by China on US soil, at 21:30 minute mark. I thought that was interesting if you tie that to an article written by a Chinese general back in 2005. Tha article is still available on Rense: http://www.rense.com/general85/China%27sPlanToConquer.htm

[Cidersomerset]

After listening to part one there is much that ties into the current memes
going on. David Icke has been saying for a long time that when all the 2012
hype was on that he saw nothing happening and that 2016/7/8 was the time
frame he saw possible change. With this in mind he started his on going world
tour in 2016 and after a break to write his latest book will be continuing it until
there is no more interest or he tires out.....

2016..... gave us Brexit and Trump which gave some..... 'A New Hope'

2017..... has seen deepstate backlash as .....'The Empire strikes back'

2018.....financial chaos ? & catastrophic war ?..' The Return of the ---- ? '

Of course many other events are going on leading to different interpretations,
predictions and timelines. With all this its constant speculation until something
happens and the cycle continues. Will Commanders Z's predictions come true ?
Trump seems to have been compromised . The Neo con/dem agenda is continuing
with the usual suspects of countries still being demonised which includes China.
Charlottsville, North Korea creating fear and chaos . Remote Viewing ? some swear
by it others say its BS. So who knows ? As usual more questions than answers.

Impeachment , mental illness the mainstream are going after Trump...

General Kelly Moves To Control ALL Information Trump Sees - He Is Now A Virtual
Globalist NeoCon Captive
read more..
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/24/john-kelly-trump-control-241967

https://www.davidicke.com/category/265/war-and-terror

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[Jayke]

They mentioned a war initiated by China on US soil, at 21:30 minute mark. I thought that was interesting if you tie that to an article written by a Chinese general back in 2005. Tha article is still available on Rense: http://www.rense.com/general85/China%27sPlanToConquer.htm

That article reads like a propaganda piece George Soros would commission to stir up anti-Chinese rhetoric.


Therefore, we must do everything we can to promote our relationship with America, learn from America in all aspects and use America as an example to reconstruct our country. Only by using special means to 'clean up' America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there. Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves.

The article also talks about using non-destructive weapons to wipe out Americans so the Chinese can colonise the continent, nuclear warheads wouldn't be conducive to that goal. I'd really question the validity of this article. I'd be surprised if it was legit.

China are fully engaged in building their One Belt, One road project...the shift of power is swinging to the East and the only thing that can stop them from becoming a dominant force in the newly emerging multipolar world is a nuclear war. The Anglo-Saxon mission should really be called the Anglo-Saxon wet dream. It's going to take something extremely drastic for the momentum to stop swinging to the East. China just have to sit it out and wait for the West to implode (which it's fully in the process of doing) the fall of Rome all over again. Any war nuclear war will have to be initiated by the west for this reason, and I really don't see them pulling it off.

[Bill Ryan]

IDDQ6OqRCRE



Well, that's an absolutely dreadful piece of shoddy, shameless, cheap commercialism.

That might well just be his publishers, but FAIL.

[ghostrider]

Alot of this information follows what the ETs quetzal , Ptaah, Sfath , told Edward Meier starting in 1942 ... China will be the new super power, Russia and China align and attack America, which will make the U.S. a country of total destruction ... The North American continent will suffer the greatest natural disaster that will reach proportions barely imaginable to human beings ... The secret military has advanced craft that are mistaken for UFOs ... They (the watchers) said the revolutionary rays of the sun hitting us unobstructed would cause a speeding up of knowledge, and the human dormant abilities ... it would be prudent for everyone to have a months worth of food stored, 200 dollars cash on your person all the time , along with a small pocket knife, flaslight, etc ... The final step, a PLAN of what you will do, where to go, how to navigate, when or if some or all these predictions come to fruition ...

[etheric underground]

The fact that Royce is a Hillary Clinton supporter red flagged me.
If you are a journalist with any true skill and diversified outlook....you would
Know she helped rapists get off their charges as a lawyer and that she is undeniably a part of dodgy world dealings and pedophilia.
His ignorance on this one person devalued the whole story for me.

[chris_walker]

I agree with bearcow, very suspicious. I mean at 22 minutes in, did he say China would be the initiator of the nuclear war? Seriously? That defies all reason, it'd be more believable to hear Corey Goode and his crew of blue avians being initiators of a nuclear war, for China to start it would be suicide. Everyone outside of the U.S.A, who've been watching the coup against Trump unfold and the geopolitical shifts taking place around the rest of the world, realises that the only people desperate to start a nuclear war are the neocon crazies in Washington. China are masters of the long game, reserved and patient, it's highly unlikely they'd be drawn into making such a desperate move.I believe this wholeheartedly and why not? The communist People's Republic of China Body Count is about 73,237,000 and China still has a brutal human rights record. They are aggressive towards Taiwan and recently India.

[Jayke]

I believe this wholeheartedly and why not? The communist People's Republic of China Body Count is about 73,237,000 and China still has a brutal human rights record. They are aggressive towards Taiwan and recently India.

Recently India? Are you referring to the dispute between the border of India, Bhutan and Tibet? William Engdahl gives good insight into the machinations of the "Chinese Agression" (stirred up and spun by Washington and Tel Aviv by the sounds of it)...


Whatever was privately agreed between Modi and Washington in June as well as with Tel Aviv in early July, it was in this time frame that the Doklam dispute erupted in the Indian decision to send troops to forcibly intervene against Chinese construction teams on the sensitive border zone between China, Bhutan and India in the Tibetan plateau.

For its side, China is citing a letter by former Indian PM Jawaharlal Nehru to Chinese Premier Chou En-Lai in 1959: “This Convention of 1890 also defined the boundary between Sikkim and Tibet; and the boundary was later, in 1895, demarcated. There is thus no dispute regarding the boundary of Sikkim with the Tibet region,” the letter read. China has also cites a reference of May 10, 2006, besides the 1890 convention and the 1959-60 letters which says, “Both sides agree on the boundary alignment in the Sikkim Sector.” China publicly claims also that it “notified” India about the road building as a “goodwill” gesture.

At this point the real issue is not the validity or non-validity under international law of the Chinese arguments. All surrounding the recent Doklam dispute between China and India suggests the dark hand of Washington and Tel Aviv in cahoots with the Modi government to use the confrontation to sabotage the progress of China’s huge and developing One Belt, One Road infrastructure project by attempting to foster another US-instigated proxy war.

http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO11Aug2017.php

I'm not sure if this is the right video below, but while watching a short documentary on China's planned mega structure projects, the engineers understood that in order for China to become a dominant force in a multipolar world, an entire generation of Chinese youth needed to be sacrificed (which is the mindset of communism in general). I'd suggest that now those megastructures are well underway and being built, what you see in China now more closely resembles capitalism than communism (communism by name, capitalism in practice)...either way, you don't plan and build projects like these if there's an intention of committing suicide by instigating a nuclear war with the worlds greatest superpower.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNE7VPtvfbI

I'm not saying China is full of zen master buddhas floating around on lotus flowers guiding the hand of their government to a new and immediate golden age of cultural enlightenment. Just that China is forward thinking, sophisticated and savvy enough not to get drawn into making brash, idiotic decisions that would jeopardise all life on the planet (unlike the rabid warhawks of Washington and tel aviv who are demented and arrogant enough to think they can emerge victorious from such a war).

[Noelle]

I believe this wholeheartedly and why not? The communist People's Republic of China Body Count is about 73,237,000 and China still has a brutal human rights record. They are aggressive towards Taiwan and recently India.

Recently India? Are you referring to the dispute between the border of India, Bhutan and Tibet? William Engdahl gives good insight into the machinations of the "Chinese Agression" (stirred up and spun by Washington and Tel Aviv by the sounds of it)...


Whatever was privately agreed between Modi and Washington in June as well as with Tel Aviv in early July, it was in this time frame that the Doklam dispute erupted in the Indian decision to send troops to forcibly intervene against Chinese construction teams on the sensitive border zone between China, Bhutan and India in the Tibetan plateau.

For its side, China is citing a letter by former Indian PM Jawaharlal Nehru to Chinese Premier Chou En-Lai in 1959: “This Convention of 1890 also defined the boundary between Sikkim and Tibet; and the boundary was later, in 1895, demarcated. There is thus no dispute regarding the boundary of Sikkim with the Tibet region,” the letter read. China has also cites a reference of May 10, 2006, besides the 1890 convention and the 1959-60 letters which says, “Both sides agree on the boundary alignment in the Sikkim Sector.” China publicly claims also that it “notified” India about the road building as a “goodwill” gesture.

At this point the real issue is not the validity or non-validity under international law of the Chinese arguments. All surrounding the recent Doklam dispute between China and India suggests the dark hand of Washington and Tel Aviv in cahoots with the Modi government to use the confrontation to sabotage the progress of China’s huge and developing One Belt, One Road infrastructure project by attempting to foster another US-instigated proxy war.

http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO11Aug2017.php

I'm not sure if this is the right video below, but while watching a short documentary on China's planned mega structure projects, the engineers understood that in order for China to become a dominant force in a multipolar world, an entire generation of Chinese youth needed to be sacrificed (which is the mindset of communism in general). I'd suggest that now those megastructures are well underway and being built, what you see in China now more closely resembles capitalism than communism (communism by name, capitalism in practice)...either way, you don't plan and build projects like these if there's an intention of committing suicide by instigating a nuclear war with the worlds greatest superpower.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNE7VPtvfbI

I'm not saying China is full of zen master buddhas floating around on lotus flowers guiding the hand of their government to a new and immediate golden age of cultural enlightenment. Just that China is forward thinking, sophisticated and savvy enough not to get drawn into making brash, idiotic decisions that would jeopardise all life on the planet (unlike the rabid warhawks of Washington and tel aviv who are demented and arrogant enough to think they can emerge victorious from such a war).

But what if China is provoked? It's plain to see the West is demonizing the country, as it has with other nuclear nations.

[Jayke]

But what if China is provoked? It's plain to see the West is demonizing the country, as it has with other nuclear nations.

There's more than one way to skin a cat LadyM, and a nuclear bomb would certainly be overkill, no need to incinerate a cat when it just needs to be skinned.

As Sun Tzu would say: "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

Or in the words of Buckminster Fuller: “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

China's One Belt, One Road project is the project that subdues the USA without the need to fight and also creates a model of trade and cooperation that makes the existing model of slavery and subjugation obsolete.

When I get some extra time I'll start a thread that demonstrates how what we're seeing in geopolitics in the world today is just a macrocosm cycle of microcosm dynamics that have been studied for decades within the field of organisational psychology. We might be in for a rough ride for sure, the American deep state will pull out all the stops to prevent the OBOR project from taking shape...but nuclear war next year initiated by china...not impossible I suppose but highly unlikely imo

[Cardillac]

according to Simon Parkes/Britsh mayor/telepath the mantids are the most friendly of the ET groups (contrary to the interview)- you go figure it out- I'm still working on it-

Larry

[Noelle]

But what if China is provoked? It's plain to see the West is demonizing the country, as it has with other nuclear nations.

There's more than one way to skin a cat LadyM, and a nuclear bomb would certainly be overkill, no need to incinerate a cat when it just needs to be skinned.

As Sun Tzu would say: "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

Or in the words of Buckminster Fuller: “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

China's One Belt, One Road project is the project that subdues the USA without the need to fight and also creates a model of trade and cooperation that makes the existing model of slavery and subjugation obsolete.

When I get some extra time I'll start a thread that demonstrates how what we're seeing in geopolitics in the world today is just a macrocosm cycle of microcosm dynamics that have been studied for decades within the field of organisational psychology. We might be in for a rough ride for sure, the American deep state will pull out all the stops to prevent the OBOR project from taking shape...but nuclear war next year initiated by china...not impossible I suppose but highly unlikely imo

Yes, please ... start a thread. There are so many twists and turns, and sometimes I give up on trying to understand why this or that is happening in a specific country.

[syrwong]

While arguing about the authenticity of the man, it is easy to forget what he is trying to convince us. It is in the title but with a point missing. The point is the world is facing apocalypse, AND this apocalypse will be started by China with a nuclear first strike on the US.

The propaganda nature of this prediction/warning is obvious. It creates great fear, especially in the US. China is greatly vilified. Perhaps the only justification that this prediction can happen is that he was able to predict the exact Super Bowl score. This extraordinary ability is familiar among many so called “whistleblowers”. On this basis, it might just be possible that China would nuke the US out of existence. Fear is created and fear often excludes rational thinking. Anyone who knows a little contemporary world politics knows that the US has no compunction about making a nuclear first strike on any country and it is their military doctrine ever since they possess atomic weapons. On the other hand for decades China promised not to be the first user of nuclear weapons in war.

A fugitive who has taken time to write a book that indicts China for a future crime on humanity is rather suspect, but this coincides with the increasing vilification of China since Trump is in office.

[DNA]

according to Simon Parkes/Britsh mayor/telepath the mantids are the most friendly of the ET groups (contrary to the interview)- you go figure it out- I'm still working on it-

Larry


They took Dr. Turner, she pretty much spelled out their negative roles.
I would think Turner would trump Simon.
Just my opinion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z409Mpi0zyI

[Joe from the Carolinas]

I've always had the habit of reading these suspense-type release books from the back to the front. In case anyone is interested about the 'safe locations' they use as a teaser, its on the last page and a half of the book.




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[Marikins]

Two things had captured my attention:


The prediction of the Superbowl score. (A little hard to explain!)
The correlation with The Anglo Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission) (and other similar plausible material I've encountered).

I've NOT read the book, but I actually would like to.

If anyone comes across other interviews done by Royce Christyn, please do post them — not to promote the story, but just because it's more research information about all this.

Gosh, I wish I could give you my copy, but it's digital.
Bill, in your awesome interview with Richard Dolan you stressed the importance of whistleblowers identifying and credentialing themselves, and when I heard that, I immediately thought of why this book was so bogus to me. Commander Z does not credential himself in any way nor does he identify himself. Also he claims he remains anonymous because he fears for his life, yet communicates with Hollywood types. I cannot believe in this day and age that any intelligence agency, especially an advanced one, could not locate him instantly. Notice he is willing to risk the lives of the front men he puts out, assuming this is true (which I don't).

Regarding the super bowl, I have heard that the scores are fixed in advance. I don't find this hard to believe at all and it was immediately what came to mind when I read the prediction.

I think like any good disinformation, there are parts that are true so one swallows the bad bits with it.

[Chester]

Note in that Super Bowl (SB 51) that New England was a 3 or so point favorite and the over/under was in the high 50s (58.5, 59, etc.). So 34 - 28 was not all that far off the actual point spread and total.

To pick the exact score is certainly eyebrow raising, but the score he predicted was also a smart choice. Note also that 28 is a key number and 34 is close to a key number for a total near 60.

Just to try and get an idea of what the odds were, I did a search and found this site -

http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/2017-Super-Bowl-51-Exact-Score-Betting-Odds_P16328.html

What is quite odd about this list is that it offers 280 different Exact Score combinations. Yet New England to win 34-28 is not on the list!

The odds they would miss that is probably bigger than the odds that it landed new england to win 34-28.

[Nasu]

I agree that it reads like common a garden fear porn or propaganda against China. That being said, I thought it noteworthy that it was published in the UK and not the US, as such no record will ever be kept in the library of congress, where ALL books published in the US have to have at least one copy. Probably nothing, but thought it an interesting side note...x... N

PS. The beginning of chapter one starts with a quote from Tennyson - "A lie that is a half-truth is the darkest of all lies."

[uzn]

Yeah Nasu, did anybody of you check how much Money China has invested in America. It´s massive and gigantic. You are not gonna blow up what you already own parts of, right?

[Joe from the Carolinas]

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[Whiskey_Mystic]

For those who are looking for comfort, do recall that we have quite a bit of testimony that there was intervention during the Cuban Missile Crisis. There may be lines that will not be allowed to be crossed. Maybe.

[7alon]

I applaud Bill for having the guts to bring up this kind of testimony knowing full well what it's reception would probably be.


Thank you! :bigsmile:

Two things had captured my attention:


The prediction of the Superbowl score. (A little hard to explain!)
The correlation with The Anglo Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission) (and other similar plausible material I've encountered).

I've NOT read the book, but I actually would like to.

If anyone comes across other interviews done by Royce Christyn, please do post them — not to promote the story, but just because it's more research information about all this.

Maybe the man received the prediction and story from a source that doesn't wish to be revealed? The guy could be taking credit for something, knowing the real person won't disclose? How many of us know stories of other people's visions and first hand experiences? Just a thought.

[findingneo]

The book arrived today. Reading it now.

Was it you Bill who mentioned the trashy front cover? They cover that. It is so it does not get pulled.

[Nasu]

The book arrived today. Reading it now.

Was it you Bill who mentioned the trashy front cover? They cover that. It is so it does not get pulled.

I'm interested to hear your take on this book, I read it last week, the quote about half truths in the first chapter interested me along with his caveat that even if the alien bit was false, the rest must be true. Makes you wonder if any of it is or if some of it is? Looking forward to your review...x.... N

[Joe from the Carolinas]

At the risk of being repetitive, I finished the book. It was a really fast read at 106 pages. Here's my full 1hr review in case people don't want to pay for the book. This is a different video than the 14 minute one I posted earlier in this thread. The cheesy red lettering over the video is my attempt at humor to mock the ridiculous advertising of the book itself (which is part of commander z's plan to make it look bogus).

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[Tintin]

I applaud Bill for having the guts to bring up this kind of testimony knowing full well what it's reception would probably be.


Thank you! :bigsmile:

Two things had captured my attention:


The prediction of the Superbowl score. (A little hard to explain!)
The correlation with The Anglo Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission) (and other similar plausible material I've encountered).

I've NOT read the book, but I actually would like to.

If anyone comes across other interviews done by Royce Christyn, please do post them — not to promote the story, but just because it's more research information about all this.

Thanks Bill for the Anglo-Saxon reminder, and, I agree that this feels pretty much 100% on the money - I felt that way when first reading your transcript way back.

A quick enquiry if I may: following the links to the Camelot archive and trying to grab the audio mp3 and I'm not getting access (403 Forbidden and right clicking is only giving me a Text document option). Is the mp3 available here on Avalon to download? Thanks - TQ

[findingneo]

Well NASU, I think the basic story is probably pretty accurate, but I think the characters have taken different roles from the way I see it. Ones that have been discarded play a much bigger role I think, but maybe I just don't know enough about the even bigger players because they are even more hidden.But discarding them suggests to me there may be other things not quite right. I do question some of the finger pointing.

The theme overall is my take on it. Not exactly regarding who does what, but the general theme. I am not interested in clones or about the history side of things so I don't know about that, but I am always saying we are spending a lot of time on trivial stuff, while the bigger picture is going on unabated.

The book gives a brief intro on how he came to have the info he was shown and the rest is a word for word series of interviews between his editor and CZ. It is not meant as a novel but a method of getting vital info across.

There are things which I agree with, and things which I am quite sure is inaccurate. Bottom line though, we are spending too much time on stuff which matters little and not focusing on the impending big stuff. Reminds me of when I do my tax. Ignoring it does not make it go away. I was hoping it would not correspond at all with the theme of what is going on in the background according to the way my mind has organized the sum of the parts, but I am afraid it does rather.

I am glad I bought it. Not saying there are not some half truths in it, but I think it is closer to my version of what appears to going on, than not.

What about you NASU, what do you think?

[avid]

At the risk of being repetitive, I finished the book. It was a really fast read at 106 pages. Here's my full 1hr review in case people don't want to pay for the book. This is a different video than the 14 minute one I posted earlier in this thread. The cheesy red lettering over the video is my attempt at humor to mock the ridiculous advertising of the book itself (which is part of commander z's plan to make it look bogus).

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Vigilance for Victory, a double-take on the two-fingered salute, oops, or was that the other way round... 😉?

[TrumanCash]

At the risk of being repetitive, I finished the book. It was a really fast read at 106 pages. Here's my full 1hr review in case people don't want to pay for the book. This is a different video than the 14 minute one I posted earlier in this thread. The cheesy red lettering over the video is my attempt at humor to mock the ridiculous advertising of the book itself (which is part of commander z's plan to make it look bogus).

gtt58jjEwec

Thanks for your synopsis of the book, Joe. I have not read it but I will assume that your synopsis is accurate.

As one who has had many experiences with Mantis, Gray, and to a lesser extent Reptilian ETs, I can say without any doubts whatsoever that this book is so full of disinformation it should be shelved in the fiction section.

Anyone can use the same techniques that I used with abductees to reveal the agendas of these ETs and how they coordinate their massive mind control mechanisms with the Anunnaki to create chaos and endless wars on this planet.

This is because they monitor abductees and follow them from lifetime to lifetime, sometimes putting them in positions of power and authority in religions, secret societies, militaries and governments. I have documented my research and experiences in my books which are free of charge and--as I always need to emphasize--anyone can do this research and achieve the same understandings of how this ET matrix works. This is no longer a secret.

If your video book review reflects the book's subject matter accurately, it feels more to me that the author is someone who did a rather brief review of YouTube videos, forums, and/or perhaps a few UFO books and then tried to put his very limited research into a fictional account of his own making.

To me the book is farcical. And it comes across to me as someone who likes pulling people legs just for sh*ts and giggles.

So thanks for taking the time to order and read the book so we won't have to. :-)

[Nasu]

Having read the book I am of two minds, there is something intriguing about it, I am left with a deep sense of foreboding.

On the one hand it is very short and badly organized and shoddily put together imo, with spelling errors, cheesy cover and title, very poor supporting marketing campaign and cheap, less than $8.00. On the other hand, given it's failings, I wonder why publish something like this in the first place...

Nobody will buy this book next year, win, lose or draw, whatever happens, so that gives me pause for thought in and of itself.

As I've mentioned, the first part of chapter one begins with a foreshadowing quote from Alfred Tennyson - A lie that is a half truth is the darkest of all lies. So I take from that opening quote that there is some truth and untruth mixed together in this book for reasons unknown. The stated reason is so that the information can get out without it being shut down by the clones and their mantis overlords. If that is so, which part is real I wonder, the overlords or the impending doom, or the backstory?

As Joe mentioned, it seems far fetched, even for this story, that the overlords have not perfected a way to rig elections yet, that part seems quite silly. Overall though, none of this is new news, from alien created clones in charge of our governments to breakaway civilizations living in DUMB's, to nuclear apocalypse blamed on an obvious foreign enemy, even the hints of hidden tech within the cell phone tower network have been discussed at length. With one exception, I can't point at any part of this book that is new information, the exception being that mantis aliens and ONLY mantis aliens are visiting our world with evil aims and desires.

There seems to be so much witness testimony “out there" for the existence of grey alien types that I am very suspicious of this claim. It is stated in the book that the reptilian race is a psi-op invention of these mantis aliens, so one is left to assume that the grey types of alien are too.

Given the time left till this prediction is said to begin, the chances of many or even any readers actually being able to relocate to these remote safe zones mentioned is very slim to none. The author paints a dark picture, one where the only hope for mankind is a rebellion within the ranks of human co-conspiriters, he states that there is nothing you and me could do, other than move away from civilization and hide in a cave or bush, hardly a plan to take back our planet from these mantis pirates.

So why print this small book at all? That is the intriguing bit for me. Could it be a psi-op from the actual alien overlords, the grey and reptilians for example, to blame their next moves on a separate race of interlopers? Could it be a human endeavor to bring about the much discussed NWO, whilst blaming it on mantis alien overlords, rather than podgy masonic investment bankers and their military contractors?

Finally we have the authors correct prediction of an exact Super Bowl win by the Patriots, of 34 to the Falcons 28. He claims that he will make over $5 million dollars in Vegas on this bet, but that money will not mean much very soon. Without this piece of the puzzle I would discount everything about this book. His remote viewing abilities apparently helped him to see the outcome. Or he could have somehow been in on the fix, but if so, why declare it to his small group of twitter followers, 20 or so at the time?

Literally none of this book makes any sense, from any perspective I can see. I won’t be moving to Northern Maine, but will continue to be prepared for whatever the winds of change may blow my way. Like I said I am left with a deep sense of foreboding after reading this book. November is not very far away. So now we will see…x… N

[Praxis]

For those who are looking for comfort, do recall that we have quite a bit of testimony that there was intervention during the Cuban Missile Crisis. There may be lines that will not be allowed to be crossed. Maybe.

Ummmmmmmmm.. What. Please direct me to this testimony.

I dont like throwing aliens into that because it detracts from the real heroes.

Do you know the Name Vasili Arkhipov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov)? If you dont you should because you owe him your life. In fact, ALL humans owe him their lives.

No aliens. No nothing. Just humans being good people. He is the intervention. Not some ET WOO WOO( which dont get me wrong I LOVE me some WOO WOO ET stuff!) intervention.



I have said this before and will say it again. When Ghengis Khan was killing 10% of the worlds population, where were the guardians protecting us? Oh it wasnt nuclear so they didnt care? Ah then they dont actually care about humanity but rather maybe the other biological life on earth? So they dont actually care about humans unless we do collateral damage?

Do you understand just how many people died each day in the Somme, or Larmarne, or Alsace Lorraine? Go listen to Blueprints for Armageddon by Dan Carlin (Hardcore History Podcast). Hundred and thousand of dead a day.

There are parts of France larger than Paris which humans can not go because of unexploded ordinance or toxic chemicals. Where were the gaurdians?


If there are people looking out for something, they care about the genetic library that is earth, not the stupid monkeys that happen to rule it currently.

[findingneo]

I feel the same NASU, in two minds. What is the point of publishing it if there is nothing to it? And I know about 20 people who say they have been abducted by Gray's. Most think it is a good thing but I am pretty sure it's not. I have only spoken to one person that has seen a semi translucent reptilian. They are mentioned often in certain threads here, and are semi famous in this area. And then there is TC. How many folk here have seen any of them? I have just had experiences with non physical whatevers claiming to be ET's, and then those that respond to thoughts. Perhaps they are all interdimensional. Which also makes me question how Mantids could live all the time in our physical reality.

I do think you don't need a nuclear weapon to do plenty of damage. An EMP attack would soon bring us to our knees, being so reliant on tech. I don't recall an EMP attack being in the book. Where is that? Anyway, It does not mention the tech that has so far not been activated in cell towers as being a simple shut off. He did not say that. Just that there is tech that had not been activated on the cell towers, which must have a faraday cage to protect it I guess. Anyone know any sparkies to ask that have worked on cell towers in the U.S.? I expect it has more to do with direct control and brain frequencies, and worse.

So, I don't think it would take nuclear weapons to create a big mess, although plenty of folk seem trigger happy. Gun laws in some places would mean surviving any holocaust or a simple tech shutdown with an EMP attack, would perhaps be brief anyway, due to a gun mentality instead of getting through something as a community. Hopefully not in my community, but then we don't carry guns.

Yep, I feel forboding as well NASU. I felt that before I saw this. No matter who does what where, does it not look like the same outcome is probable while we fumble around in the dark? I don't know how long it will take. Who sees the signs around them? I mean directly?

[Nasu]

Thanks findingneo. Putting the book to one side for a moment, yes these are dark times indeed. Regarding your question about Cell phone towers, I am not sure if there are threads about it, probably, but not sure, so here you go, I dug this out for you. My guess is that this is what commander z was alluding to. Probably much more to be found with a search or two....x.... N


"So what do you know about cell phone towers? They’re supposed to be just for cell phones right? Your typical cell phone has enough power to reach a cell phone tower 45 miles away. But now each city has cell phone towers only a few miles apart.

Why is that?

Plants do not grow beneath them because your average tower is continually emitting about 10,000 watts of microwave energy. A lot of them are being disguised as trees, or as steeples at churches or as flag poles at schools. Many massive cables run up the mast to the antennas. They are obviously transmission lines of some sort. And they are made of thick copper. The workers themselves have said that each cable line is capable of transmitting over 300,000 watts of microwave energy. That’s 300 kilowatts of power.

So these towers have the capability of emitting millions of watts of power of into the surrounding area! To put that in perspective a microwave oven uses 4000 watts. A Communication Satellite uses 2400 watts. There are different kinds of these towers with different kinds of antenna transmitting and receiving. Some antenna are omni directional which means they are capable of transmitting in all directions. Some are sector directional which means they emit beams point to point like a flashlight.

A magnetron or oscillator in the cabin stores the energy. With all this power could the cell phone towers be used for other purposes? Such as eavesdropping on cell phone calls and spying on text messages. Surveillance is becoming a greater and greater part of our everyday life. Street lights now have spy cameras installed in them which will not only video you but will record your conversation. Hidden microchips in computers, televisions and electronic appliances make it possible to listen in to what is being said in the privacy of one’s home.

Could mind control also be an objective?

Mind Control techniques have been actively pursued since the 1950’s when a secret operation called MK Ultra forced unwilling participants to engage in things like strong drugs, intense noise or loud music with hidden suggestions and repetitive commands mixed in. Since that time they have found that targeted frequencies work a lot better since consciousness is the result of frequency patterns in our brains. Ideas, desires, beliefs, and even false memories can actually be transplanted in one’s mind with directed beams of microwave energy.

This is called Voice to Skull technology. When a multi frequency of microwaves are transmitted into one’s auditory cortex, psychotronic manipulation will occur altering emotional states and thus behavior. Encoded messages can be transferred in this way and thoughts in your head will not be your own.

Could another objective be population control? Just ask Bill Gates if this is not a priority subject. Or read the Georgia Guidestones which says human population must be greatly reduced. War, GMO’s, vaccines and other nefarious activities aren’t quite doing the job.

So maybe you could call these structures – weaponized cell phone towers. The idea has been around quite awhile. Nikola Tesla developed the technology of shooting microwaves to specific targets over 100 years ago at Wardenclyffe, New Jersey. His inventions have now been turned into what is called HAARP. High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program. From an array of antenna broad beams of power get converged into a narrow laser which bounces off the ionosphere and can be directed anywhere with great accuracy. Earthquakes and tsunamis can be created by HAARP. Also the strength of hurricanes can be increased.

And now the capability to shoot lasers out of high speed military aircraft has been achieved. The real purpose of NASA was to develop weaponized satellite systems. Sending men to the moon was just an elaborate cover story. In this master deception plan, chemtrails play an important part. You know those lines in the sky that go on and on and last a long time. They are not condensation from an engine because once in the atmosphere water will evaporate within seconds.

Most jets today have turbine engines where the exhaust is shot back into the turbine blades. What is pouring out from the airplanes and causing a trail is not from a thrust output but from nozzles fitted on the exterior of the aircraft. And what is coming out of the nozzles are tiny nano sized particulates of metal – along with a noxious concoction of chemical mixtures. The heavy metals which have been found and documented many times streaming down in chemtrails are aluminum, barium, arsenic, lead, mercury, uranium, strontium, nickel and others which are less common. We then breathe in these metallic elements or ingest them from food and water.

What happens to the metallic elements when they are heated by cell tower microwaves? If metals are put in a microwave oven the microwaves created by the magnetron in the oven will react with the metal and cause the oven to explode! Cell phone towers and microwave ovens both have magnetrons or oscillators and cause heating by the rapid shifting of molecules.
Are you beginning to see the connection?

Basically cell phone towers are huge microwave ovens on a stick! And we are in the confines of these huge microwave ovens and we have metallic particles inside of us thanks to chemtrails. If the juice in the towers is turned up enough it would be instant population control. But this technology is still in testing phases and they have to move slowly. As the Wicked Witch of the West said these matters must be handled delicately.

Is this the long range take over plan? Where commands are used on unsuspecting humans by electrical wave frequencies utilizing Silent Sound technology. Where resistance is futile. In the middle of some night are they going to unleash it and say it was an alien UFO invasion? They have been conditioning everyone in a belief of UFO’s since the early 90’s. The real purpose of the hit series Ancient Aliens was to get everyone to believe in UFO’s and aliens. (UFO’s are real but they are classified high technology that is not being shared with the public).

Was the purpose of the TV show Life After People to prep the mind to handle the trauma of an apocalyptic world? Are we being outplayed? Are ‘FEMA Camps’ for remaining survivors? Will predator drones and robotic cops eventually be able to hunt down people who resist?"

Source - more - http://bennettleeross.com/science/towers-death-ultimate-conspiracy/

[Bill Ryan]

Do you know the Name Vasili Arkhipov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov)? If you dont you should because you owe him your life. In fact, ALL humans owe him their lives.



:bump:

Yes, I posted about him here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III&p=812381&viewfull=1#post812381). (Others have mentioned him elsewhere on the forum in a few places, too.)

Here's the PBS documentary. Recommended. An amazing story.


The Man Who Saved The World (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208342/Soviet-submariner-single-handedly-averted-WWIII-height-Cuban-Missile-Crisis.html) (not an exaggerated title, either)

* Talking about submarines, one of the many things Commander Z doesn't mention (or doesn't explain) is how come even if the US mainland was devastated by surprise nuclear attack, the 24/7/365 fleet of B52s and nuclear subs wouldn't immediately reduce China to a cinderpile.

[findingneo]

Thanks 9ofClub for making me aware of the man that saved the world. I had made a mental note to go look him up. Thanks Bill for posting the link about him to make it easy for me. My first thought was, 'Thank God for people like him".

Nasu, thank you. good find. I recognize about 95% of what is said in that great article, but I would not have been able to gather the threads in my head like that author has, nor would I have it retained to present it like that, as my mind holds on to tech like a hand holds back a flow of water.

You have covered it as far as I know. Harald Krautz Vella covers this sort of stuff, or some of it in his lecture, among other things. He is, in my terminology, an Earth Scientist. He was privately paid to study why plants were dying in a field and discovered a variety of certain organic and inorganic material in microscopic form to be present that should not have been there, but were the cause of the plant deaths. Long story short (the only bit I retain anyway) and he realized these particles (or whatever is the correct term, but you get the gist) seemed to be where there was chemtrailing. One of the things present was Barium, as mentioned in the article you shared. He goes a bit rogue, and looks outside the box for causes.

What Harald said in his talks/interviews, is that chemtrailing causes the copper that naturally encases our nerves in our brain, is removed by these chemtrails and is replaced by a coating of Barium. As your article mentioned, Barium can be detected by tech, and that this is being used as a method to hone in on people, using tech.

I can't remember where, maybe it was Harald again, but apparently the common brain wave frequencies can be recorded of human emotions. So that for instance fear, happiness, contentment, sleepiness, etc, has a brainwave frequency. Then all that has to be done, is to replicate this and play it back. Get my drift? And yes, apparently frequencies can be targeted. Individuals have certain distinct frequencies that identify them apparently from another individual .We are essentially electrical and magnetic, so how would you perhaps cause someone to have a heart attack, etc? Also, someone I spoke to who used to work in the aerospace industry and is well known, did say that when space is weaponized, it would not only be used to supposedly protect airspace, but could be pointed down at the people. So I am guessing cell tower can be linked to sats? I don't recall reading or hearing that, I am just thinking that is a logical connection, but not being at all tech savvy, I am just assuming. Bottom line, we can be remote controlled and not know it. At least that is how my brain perceives what can be done, with cell towers. Who am I to say though? I tried to put a new plug on my hairdryer when I moved overseas, and it only had two wires. I wired it up the wring way. But yes Nasu, I think you are most likely on the right track, from what I gather. Pity I am no good at this sort of thing, and just repeating very basically, what I have read/watched online.

So anyway, I think CZ said that once basically the chaos had run it's course, the hidden tech in the cell towers would be activated. Something like that.
So maybe he is talking something like that.

:lalala: I am going to go walk the dog, listen to the birds and watch butterflies and bees and such.

I really like talking to you Nasu, your way of seeing resonates with me (we don't think in terms of just black and white), although perhaps you are more grown up with the way you approach stuff than I am. I like that. I need to go balance for a little. Thank you. Back later. x

[Weird7]

Yeah, Jesus is the only way. Thank God for Jesus Christ. God bless you all.

[DNA]

I've now read the book.
I do not recommend it.
If this book is true we are so screwed that no amount of foresight can really help.
So I will continue to hold out hope that things are not as dire as this.
I'm more of a Billy Meier meets Edgar Cayce while being served tea by John Titor kind of apocalypse believer.
And while not pretty, these apocalyptic visions seem to be better than what is offered by Commander Z.
So for my own peace of mind and ease of sanity, I will relegate Commander Z to that of disinformation or lunatic fringe.

[Mandala]

I ordered and read the book also. I found nothing new that we haven't discussed. If it is true, we're screwed. If it is false, we're probably screwed anyway.

My take is basically this, after surviving Irma and not having power for a week, if the grid goes down, any way or any fashion, we are totally screwed. People become what they truly are, very good and helpful or totally mean and self-serving.

This has been an eye opening renewal for me.

If people are loving, they will be. If the are assholes', it will come out. With Hose, Lee, and Maria now lined up, I can't wait to see the dissociative personalities come out.

We know that North Korea has a nut case in charge. We know that China wants to be a super power, out ranking US and European countries.

We know there is a design to develop and implement a one world government. What we really do not know is when.

After what I've been through and seen is to advise everyone is to stay calm, simply because only calm people can make the best decisions, ascertain what your choices and best chances are, and be prepared for an EMP, a catastrophe, or something else you may not expect. Prepare people. Be vigilant. Do not fear because you can not.

Decide who you are, what you want and need , and what your end goal is. You are where you're supposed to be. If not you will be signaled to change it. We are nearing the end game. I do believe we will all be fine.

Prepare your family's comfort and survival and keep your intentions focused.

Does it really matter if this guy is a disinformation agent or not. We can only suppose it is probably coming. Enjoy each day, stay positive with your intentions, and go with your gut feelings.

Mandala/Susan

[Mandala]

Edit on phone: Hose=Jose

[Mandala]

I just endured old Irma and its horrid aftermath, but not as devastating as my friends in the Keys.

[findingneo]

Hope you and your loved ones are ok Mandala.

[Bluegreen]

Some years ago, I found myself stranded with a group of twenty or thirty strangers in a precarious and potentially dangerous situation, with five or six 'in charge'. None of us were going anywhere anytime soon and we all knew it. After a few hours, the leaders brought out some food. I was shocked as I watched more than half bolt for the food, stuffing it into their mouths and pockets. In less than a minute it was all gone; many didn't get any. I was so stunned, I just figured, well, if its my time its my time.

It was a life lesson download.

Thanks for checking in Mandala glad to hear you're OK. Prayers for all.

[findingneo]

The Farsight Institute did a Remote Viewing of The Egyptian Pyramids and how they were built. They did not approach it from a perspective of "aliens did it", but from an archaeological conundrum. But they did find that "aliens made them. Well, humans actually constructed them according to the RV, but CLONES made by aliens cut the rock with lasers, and the huge stones were floated 500 miles from the quarry to the site they were built. One remote viewer saw a MANTID ET overseeing the work. The MANTID was aware of the Remote Viewer having a look, and told the voyeur RV to bug off. It is not clear on how far up the hierarchy the MANTID was, just that it was an "Overseer", like a foreman I guess.

(Reminiscent of Dolores Canon's research helper being regressed, also being detected by Nostradamus as he saw into Nostradamus's house where he lived and room where he worked, as he worked. Nostradamus then made contact with the research assistant of Dolores, and Dolores, via assistant. Dolores went on to write a book about it. Looks like they are both very similar in those sorts of capabilities, RV and PLR).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MlKQyYWaME

[Foxie Loxie]

Mandala....so glad you survived the storm o.k.! Did you have much property damage? You are SO right about remaining CALM. Reminds me of Robert Stanley's conclusion after sharing his story. "Be calm, be creative." :paintgirl:

[Hervé]

Do you know the Name Vasili Arkhipov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov)? If you dont you should because you owe him your life. In fact, ALL humans owe him their lives.



:bump:

Yes, I posted about him here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III&p=812381&viewfull=1#post812381). (Others have mentioned him elsewhere on the forum in a few places, too.)

Here's the PBS documentary. Recommended. An amazing story.


The Man Who Saved The World (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208342/Soviet-submariner-single-handedly-averted-WWIII-height-Cuban-Missile-Crisis.html) (not an exaggerated title, either)

[...]
Another man... another Russian... who also saved the world from a nuclear catastrophe:

RIP Stanislav Petrov who passed away on May 19, 2017...

The man who saved the world: Russian officer who averted nuclear war dies at age 77 (https://www.rt.com/news/403625-nuclear-soviet-officer-died/)

RT (https://www.rt.com/news/403625-nuclear-soviet-officer-died/)
Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:30 UTC


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Stanislav Petrov © Sergey Pirigov / Sputnik


A Soviet officer who prevented a nuclear crisis between the US and the USSR and possible World War III in the 1980s has quietly passed away. He was 77. In 2010 RT spoke to Stanislav Petrov, who never considered himself a hero. We look at the life of the man who saved the world.

A decision that Soviet lieutenant colonel Stanislav Petrov once took went down in history as one that stopped the Cold War from turning into nuclear Armageddon, largely thanks to Karl Schumacher, a political activist from Germany who helped the news of his heroism first reach a western audience nearly two decades ago.

On September 7, Schumacher, who kept in touch with Petrov in the intervening years, phoned him to wish him a happy birthday, but instead learned (http://karl-schumacher-privat.de/) from Petrov's son, Dmitry, that the retired officer had died on May 19 in his home in a small town near Moscow.

On September 26, 1983, Stanislav Petrov was on duty in charge of an early warning radar system in a bunker near Moscow, when just past midnight he saw the radar screen showing a single missile inbound from the United States and headed toward the Soviet Union.

"When I first saw the alert message, I got up from my chair. All my subordinates were confused, so I started shouting orders at them to avoid panic. I knew my decision would have a lot of consequences," Petrov recalled of that fateful night in an interview with RT in 2010.

"The siren went off for a second time. Giant blood-red letters appeared on our main screen, saying START. It said that four more missiles had been launched," he said. From the moment the warheads had taken off, there was only half an hour (https://meduza.io/feature/2017/09/16/chelovek-kotoryy-predotvratil-yadernuyu-voynu) for the Kremlin to decide on whether to push the red button in retaliation and just 15 minutes for Petrov to determine whether the threat was real and report to his commanders.

"My cozy armchair felt like a red-hot frying pan and my legs went limp. I felt like I couldn't even stand up. That's how nervous I was when I was taking this decision," he told RT.

Taught that in case of a real attack the US would have gone on an all-out offensive, Petrov told his bosses the alarm must have been caused by a system malfunction.

"I'll admit it, I was scared. I knew the level of responsibility at my fingertips," he said.

It was later revealed that what the Soviet satellites took for missiles launch was sunlight reflected from clouds. Petrov's action, however, received no praise, and he was scolded (http://www.spiegel.de/einestages/vergessener-held-a-948852.html) for not filling in a service journal. His superiors were blamed for the system's flaws. "My superiors were getting the blame and they did not want to recognize that anyone did any good, but instead chose to spread the blame."

For over 10 years, the incident was kept secret as highly classified. Even Petrov's wife, Raisa, who died in 1997, didn't know anything of the role her husband played in averting nuclear war.

That was until 1998, when Petrov's superintendent, Colonel General Yury Votintsev, spoke out and a report about the officer's quiet deed appeared in the German tabloid Bild.

"After reading this report, I was as if struck by thunder," Karl Schumacher wrote in his blog.

"I could not get rid of the idea that I had to do something for the man who prevented an atomic war and thus saved the world," says Schumacher, for whom "nuclear threat was so real for decades."

Schumacher flew to Russia to find the man who saved the world, and found him living in a flat in Fryazino, northeast of Moscow. Schumacher invited Petrov to the German town of Oberhausen, so that locals would find out about the episode of when the world was teetering on the edge of nuclear catastrophe.

During his stay in Germany, Petrov appeared on local TV and gave interviews to several daily newspapers. Global recognition followed that trip, with major awards presented to him. In 2006, the Association of World Citizens handed him an award, which reads: "To the man who averted nuclear war," in the UN headquarters in New York.

In 2012, Petrov was honored with the German Media Prize, also awarded to Nelson Mandela, Dalai Lama and Kofi Annan. Next year he received another accolade, the Dresden Peace Prize, with the prize given by a 25-year-old Dresden resident, who "belongs to the generation that would not have survived had it not been for Stanislav Petrov."

Based on his story, the movie "The man who saved the world" premiered in 2014, featuring actor Kevin Costner. The actor sent (https://www.kompravda.eu/daily/26139.3/3028054/) Petrov $500 as a "thank you" for making the right decision.

"At first when people started telling me that these TV reports had started calling me a hero, I was surprised. I never thought of myself as one - after all, I was literally just doing my job," Petrov said.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Going off tack a little, and referencing what Whisky Mystic said, I agree and am 100% positive there has been 'intervention' in the past, intervention of a type that would ensure that stupid humanity would not destroy itself with its nuclear toys. I believe it is has happened - that disaster has been averted - at least once since the Cuban missile crisis, that under Reagan. It is largely down to that intervention that we are still here at all, in the 21st century, and that there has been no mass culling and population reduction though many have said it's happening or is about to happen for decades. It is being prevented.

If it has to, perhaps intervention will happen again. It happened before because humanity had to survive, our development had to continue (this time). Another reset could not be afforded. (I believe there has been 3 major resets in the last 100,000 years). That said...if there should be any kind of nuclear attack by one nation on another, it would mean to my mind that this force of 'intervention' has been revoked, and we have to decide for ourselves what is to become of our civilization. And without that help, I fear that would be that. The End. We would be...screwed.

[findingneo]

The Mantid theme has been started in response to a just posted interview by Dark Journalist interviewing Linda Moulton Howe. Here is the thread.
Linda Moulton Howe - Alien Resurrection - Mantis Mystery.

Here is the interview. Lots of mentions of a mantid being in the first half hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BLI8OKir0

[Nasu]

So no Mantis nuclear Armageddon after all then, perhaps their clone puppets were performing better than expected, or maybe they were just too busy... Anonymous commander, imminent threat and deadline to life and limb exposed, buy the book quick and get all the inside scoop and solutions before it's too late, get the vital locations for bugout, etc, etc.. My best guess is that this was all concocted by the publishing firm to make some cash.. imho.... N

[ssrf]

The world has been experiencing an increasing trend of natural disasters, terrorist activities, war and political upheavals over the recent past. There is no respite from this trend and it does not show any signs of slowing down. Especially lately we see a high increase in the number of news relating to the possibility of coming world war 3, and possible places where World war 3 could start, or even those news which are speculating if the World war 3 has already started? Many may feel a sense of helplessness when they see the world lurch forward uncontrollably towards an uncertain future.

A number of seers such as Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, etc. have predicted turbulent and distressing times ahead, of cataclysmic proportions, and they have also mentioned the start of World War 3.

Spiritual Science Research Foundation (SSRF) conducted spiritual research from 2006, to find out the possibility of beginning of World war 3, when it could happen and what would follow afterwards. We have also researched whether there are events in the spiritual dimension behind these alarming trends and what lies ahead for humanity. The purpose of this article is to provide information uncovered through spiritual research about:

The spiritual forces at work that are orchestrating worldwide events such as World War 3 and the increase in natural disasters.
Measures that can be taken by humanity to minimise the impact of these events or to protect oneself in the event of a World War.

Read more https://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spiritual-research/global-issues/world-war-3-start-predictions/

[Joe from the Carolinas]

The world has been experiencing an increasing trend of natural disasters, terrorist activities, war and political upheavals over the recent past. There is no respite from this trend and it does not show any signs of slowing down. Especially lately we see a high increase in the number of news relating to the possibility of coming world war 3, and possible places where World war 3 could start, or even those news which are speculating if the World war 3 has already started? Many may feel a sense of helplessness when they see the world lurch forward uncontrollably towards an uncertain future.

A number of seers such as Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, etc. have predicted turbulent and distressing times ahead, of cataclysmic proportions, and they have also mentioned the start of World War 3.

Spiritual Science Research Foundation (SSRF) conducted spiritual research from 2006, to find out the possibility of beginning of World war 3, when it could happen and what would follow afterwards. We have also researched whether there are events in the spiritual dimension behind these alarming trends and what lies ahead for humanity. The purpose of this article is to provide information uncovered through spiritual research about:

The spiritual forces at work that are orchestrating worldwide events such as World War 3 and the increase in natural disasters.
Measures that can be taken by humanity to minimise the impact of these events or to protect oneself in the event of a World War.


Thank you- could you please explain how your research lines up with Commander Z's claim that China will engage in a nuclear strike against the United States, with the Mantid aliens in control? Who is pulling the strings here?

[Chris]

The world has been experiencing an increasing trend of natural disasters, terrorist activities, war and political upheavals over the recent past. There is no respite from this trend and it does not show any signs of slowing down. Especially lately we see a high increase in the number of news relating to the possibility of coming world war 3, and possible places where World war 3 could start, or even those news which are speculating if the World war 3 has already started? Many may feel a sense of helplessness when they see the world lurch forward uncontrollably towards an uncertain future.

A number of seers such as Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, etc. have predicted turbulent and distressing times ahead, of cataclysmic proportions, and they have also mentioned the start of World War 3.

Spiritual Science Research Foundation (SSRF) conducted spiritual research from 2006, to find out the possibility of beginning of World war 3, when it could happen and what would follow afterwards. We have also researched whether there are events in the spiritual dimension behind these alarming trends and what lies ahead for humanity. The purpose of this article is to provide information uncovered through spiritual research about:

The spiritual forces at work that are orchestrating worldwide events such as World War 3 and the increase in natural disasters.
Measures that can be taken by humanity to minimise the impact of these events or to protect oneself in the event of a World War.


Thank you- could you please explain how your research lines up with Commander Z's claim that China will engage in a nuclear strike against the United States, with the Mantid aliens in control? Who is pulling the strings here?

I just checked out their website and this is one of the "predictions" they make:

The Third World War will begin in 2015 and continue for about 9 years till 2023. The wars that will be fought within that period will all be linked. However, it may not be obvious to the world. Towards the end of this period, weapons of mass destruction including nuclear weapons will be used. There will be an unprecedented loss of life where approximately 50% of the population will perish. Some countries will be affected more than others. Needless to say, in a highly-interconnected world, all countries will be affected.

The following is the timetable of the subtle battle which will occur during the Third World War and the establishment of the ‘Divine Kingdom’ from the perspective of the forces of good and evil.

Year Stages of Subtle Battle
2015 Commencement
2016 – 2018 Rising victories of unrighteous people under the forces of evil
2019 – 2021 Righteous and unrighteous forces at par
2022 – 2023 Rising victories of righteous people under the forces of good
2024 Onwards Start of the ‘Divine Kingdom’

Sorry, but this does not seem like an authentic work to me. Last time I checked we were in 2018. No sign of any of this coming true. Or maybe I'm just in that alternate timeline where none of the above happened :)

[KiwiElf]

I'm going with the Mandela Effect; perhaps now, we're on a different (better?) timeline... ;)

[ThePythonicCow]

...

Spiritual Science Research Foundation (SSRF) conducted spiritual research from 2006 ...
...
Read more ...
I am gathering the impression that you, ssrf, may be more motivated in increasing the engagement of Project Avalon members with the SSRF website than you are in engaging yourself with the members of Project Avalon, on any of, or several of, the numerous and varied topics that we consider here.

If that is so, then it might benefit you to know that such is unlikely to be welcomed here for a sustained period of time.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I just checked out their website and this is one of the "predictions" they make:

The Third World War will begin in 2015 and continue for about 9 years till 2023. The wars that will be fought within that period will all be linked. However, it may not be obvious to the world. Towards the end of this period, weapons of mass destruction including nuclear weapons will be used. There will be an unprecedented loss of life where approximately 50% of the population will perish. Some countries will be affected more than others. Needless to say, in a highly-interconnected world, all countries will be affected.

The following is the timetable of the subtle battle which will occur during the Third World War and the establishment of the ‘Divine Kingdom’ from the perspective of the forces of good and evil.

Year Stages of Subtle Battle
2015 Commencement
2016 – 2018 Rising victories of unrighteous people under the forces of evil
2019 – 2021 Righteous and unrighteous forces at par
2022 – 2023 Rising victories of righteous people under the forces of good
2024 Onwards Start of the ‘Divine Kingdom’

Sorry, but this does not seem like an authentic work to me. Last time I checked we were in 2018. No sign of any of this coming true. Or maybe I'm just in that alternate timeline where none of the above happened :)

Possibly a hoax, yes, but who can tell these days. On the other hand maybe a scenario along these lines was once on the cards, but a certain 'Trump' card prevented it. I don't know about you, but I really do feel that if Hillary had won, things would not be as they are right now (NK peace as an example).

[DNA]

I read the wee little book, and it is of such horrible consequence I have to argue entirely against it due to the hopelessness it may spread.

I've been working my head out of the sand for over a decade now when it comes to the worst of what is going on, but if what this book is saying is true it would be best to live in blissful ignorance until the very end.

That being said,,,
There is quite a bit in this book pertaining to the Evil Mantis type aliens using a body snatch technology to clone and then insert their own consciousness into and this is used so they can replace some of the more powerful people in our power structure. Commander Z says you can recognize these clones by how clumsy and non-human they look when forced into social situations.

All I can say is while watching Mark Zuckerberg do his thing at the Senate hearings I couldn't help but to be reminded of what Commander Z was saying.

Even Joe Rogan made a comment about it on one of his podcasts saying how comical it was watching Zuckerberg looking so amazingly off balance to the point that he looked like an alien trying to act like a human. The one thing Rogan pointed out was how weird it was watching Zuckerberg trying to take a drink of water. Rogan kept saying, "who does that?".




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNi_BmGnxKQ



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYePFgeBWvg

[Praxis]

...

Spiritual Science Research Foundation (SSRF) conducted spiritual research from 2006 ...
...
Read more ...
I am gathering the impression that you, ssrf, may be more motivated in increasing the engagement of Project Avalon members with the SSRF website than you are in engaging yourself with the members of Project Avalon, on any of, or several of, the numerous and varied topics that we consider here.

If that is so, then it might benefit you to know that such is unlikely to be welcomed here for a sustained period of time.

but isnt this what avalon is for???? Getting those sweet sweet views on your youtube channel?

[Rha S ananda]

most times veritas has a 2nd hour subs.. like Astrid(AV) is.. though she been hit hard a while..... ago still recovering.. and rest. but she did have veritas hours 2 to priv share at times on matter re data show..

now starting to the show and hear

edit 1
ah yeah a note top./. source.. NATO wants it same Hillary.... same but not this timeline probability we are at

rest yes old news new mouth... and same NATO propaganda... #plan.. rest next edit as i continue as i finished my diner.. tasted good thanks gf.. ;)

edit 2 not here yet.

oh if anyone has issues with my grammar or etc tell me ... bill had issues getting some basic stuff compressed into less lines/sentences than longs blablabla lines paragraphs. and 2nd addon take in and ignore.. guess its was the MM subject to deep thus ignore silent no speak re... is better than speak.. well i speak

now i continue listen that 1 hour of 2 total..

[ThePythonicCow]

but isnt this what avalon is for???? Getting those sweet sweet views on your youtube channel?
It is better if there is give and take, discussion and sharing, back and forth participation, rather than just generating hits for some other channel or website.

[Foxie Loxie]

Polite discussion so we can learn others' takes on things. :highfive:

[norman]

2018 isn't over so we're not out of the woods yet. I doubt it will happen like this at all.


I did read some of that Chinese general's speech posted at Rense dot com and found something in it that made sense to me.


He mentioned that the American "indians" were/are their close relatives. From what I've seen of very old photographs of them, I'd have to agree.


That got me to thinking that there may be elements in China who have a mission to retake the continent of America, as payback for the European slaughter of the people they found here.

[Foxie Loxie]

Well...let's hope we don't have a repeat here in the U.S. like what is going on in South Africa!! :silent:

[Flash]

2018 isn't over so we're not out of the woods yet. I doubt it will happen like this at all.


I did read some of that Chinese general's speech posted at Rense dot com and found something in it that made sense to me.


He mentioned that the American "indians" were/are their close relatives. From what I've seen of very old photographs of them, I'd have to agree
That got me to thinking that there may be elements in China who have a mission to retake the continent of America, as payback for the European slaughter of the people they found here.

Nah, I don't believe so. I don't think they care about any natives in America truly. They are not the foremost human rights and anti-genocide people, on average. Just look at Tibet or at the other minority groups in China, or at the Falon groups.