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Callista
25th August 2017, 14:09
Source: http://www.smh.com.au/world/this-is-a-very-serious-storm-hurricane-harvey-heads-for-texas-20170824-gy3s4p.html

'Astounding' Hurricane Harvey Catches US off guard

The US state of Texas is bracing for potentially catastrophic flooding and winds as Hurricane Harvey intensified on Thursday and cruised toward a late Friday impact near the coastal city of Corpus Christi.

The National Hurricane Centre described Harvey's sudden strengthening as "astounding." The storm is expected to strike as a Category 3 hurricane - meaning with winds greater than 178 km/h per hour - making it the most powerful storm to make landfall in the United States since Hurricane Wilma in 2005.

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Despite the increasingly alarming forecasts, officials in Corpus Christi as of Thursday evening had held off on ordering mandatory evacuations of the city, which includes a great deal of low-lying land and a barrier island. "I'm not going to risk our police and fire people trying to drag somebody out of the house if they don't want to go," Mayor Joe McComb said at an afternoon news conference.

The surprise hurricane is poised to be the first major test of disaster response for the Trump administration, whose appointee to lead the Federal Emergency Management Agency - William "Brock" Long - was confirmed in June.

"With Harvey now strengthening at a faster rate than indicated in previous advisories, the intensity forecast has become quite concerning," the National Hurricane Centre wrote in a Thursday morning advisory. "Harvey has intensified quickly this morning, and is now forecast to be a major hurricane at landfall, bringing life-threatening storm surge, rainfall, and wind hazards to portions of the Texas coast."

Harvey had disintegrated into a tropical depression as it crossed the Yucatan Peninsula into the western Gulf of Mexico this week. But it reorganised itself over the hot Gulf waters, forming a new, 24-km-wide eye, and rapidly evolved into a hurricane by midday on Thursday, US time.

It then drifted northwest at 16-km an hour and was forecast to slow down a bit, giving it time to siphon energy from the steamy Gulf. When it comes ashore, forecasters said, it could have sustained winds of 200 km/h per hour, with a 4-metre storm surge.

Worse, it is projected to stall on the Texas coast for several days, which could dump historic quantities of rain, with some places seeing as much as 89 cm, the hurricane centre said.

The storm is forecast to meander to the east, deluging Houston and possibly New Orleans next week.

Officials in Corpus Christi scrambled on Thursday to respond to the sudden hurricane threat but decided against mandatory evacuations. Instead, officials instructed residents on the barrier island and low-lying areas inland to evacuate on a voluntary basis.

"We are up to and almost at the threshold of mandatory evacuations, but we are not going to cross that line right now," McComb said. "We are going in the strongest possible terms to encourage the residents in the low-lying areas, as they say, 'Get out of Dodge.' "

Nueces County Judge Samuel Neal, who is overseeing the county's emergency response, did not rule out mandatory evacuations but said such a move would not be done lightly.

"We will do it if we feel it's necessary," he said. "This would create a major, major impact on the way a lot of people do business."

Texas Governor Greg Abbott declared a preemptive state of disaster in 30 counties, including Harris County, home to Houston, the fourth most-populated city in the country. Charles Bujan, mayor of the barrier-island city of Port Aransas, Texas, ordered all citizens to evacuate except those working as emergency responders.

Long has stressed in interviews with The Washington Post that state and local officials need to improve their emergency readiness and recognise that it is not the federal government's responsibility alone to respond to natural disasters.

Long has also urged citizens to understand that they will often be their own first responders in a crisis.

"People need to be the help before the help arrives," he said earlier this month.

Long met with New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu and Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards on Tuesday and discussed preparations for hurricane season and the August 5 flooding in New Orleans.

"Preparedness is a partnership between the local, state and federal level," Long said. "Here, there is great concern over the city of New Orleans's ability to pump water out of the so-called bowl."

The city has 120 water pumps, but currently only 105 are operational, said Tyronne Walker, communications director for Landrieu. He said the city has brought in 26 generators to provide electricity during an emergency.

"Right now, there's no reason to panic, but you know, everybody should just be focused on getting their plans in order," Walker said. "While we're in a stronger position than we were in the last drainage incident, we're still vulnerable."

Harvey would be the first hurricane to hit Texas since Ike, a high Category 2 storm, came ashore in September 2008 in Galveston and caused tens of billions of dollars in property damage.

In Corpus Christi, some residents on Thursday left work early to begin preparing their homes, while others headed out of town or contemplated hitting the road before the storm arrived.

"Everybody's just trying to get away from this area right now," said Ricky Nesmith, the kitchen manager at Blackbeard's On the Beach.

Nesmith said a full staff came into the restaurant Thursday morning, but most workers left early to get their homes ready. The looming storm has not slowed business, Nesmith said, saying that large groups kept the restaurant busy Thursday before the owner decided to close up shop early.

Bill Sissamis, who owns the Silverado Smokehouse, a barbecue restaurant about three kilometres from the water, said that he would stay open as long as the weather allows.

"We do tend to get a lot of false alarms here," said Sissamis, 54, of previous storm warnings, adding, "The city goes a little bit nuts."

The Gulf of Mexico is vitally important for the nation's oil infrastructure.

A Citigroup report to investors said more than 85 per cent of Texas's refining capacity is located inside the highest precipitation zone for the storm.

Washington Post

Noelle
25th August 2017, 14:26
Pray, meditate or wish that storm away or that it significantly weakens.

GrayWolfBG
25th August 2017, 14:52
Sadly I think it is in for the long haul. It is currently stalled over some of the warmest waters it has yet met so high end Cat 3, or worse, is now on the cards?

If it follows the models and reverses back out into the gulf then some areas might be stuck under its weather for 5 days or more!!!

There is still no heads to either NOAA and FEMA ...... I wonder how that will work out for Trump???

uzn
25th August 2017, 15:27
Just in case, here´s a little Tornado/Hurricane 101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UT60wyKA_c

Billy
25th August 2017, 19:25
Batten down the hatches along the coast of Texas. According to my radio news, Harvey will arrive there with a punch by morning at the latest.

Be safe everyone. :shielddeflect::bearhug:

Harley
25th August 2017, 20:33
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Bob
25th August 2017, 22:37
Economically convenient for oil interests.. Most of the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico in the storm path have been shut-in and evacuated as well as the refineries.. Oil per barrel has been sitting at $48 per barrel (42 gallons) for months - totally stalled.. With refineries shut down, with production shut-in, it will be many months before production resumes.. With a shortage expect then the prices of material to sky-rocket.. Convenient in other words to have a storm appear and "stall" right over the production areas for US energy.

Another LOW has been STALLED over the San-Diego area, just up from the Baha.. For months and months, leading to monsoon pipeline effects from the low, sucking in water vapor into the deserts with immense flooding.. Odd? We have threads about "weather wars" and the tech that can do that.. Is such being operated again? Economic manipulation? Thinking out loud..

Offshore rigs map:


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Refineries, repositories, and pipelines:


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ghostrider
26th August 2017, 02:43
I saw where they upgraded the hurricane to a cat 4 , 130 mph winds ... scary ...

Foxie Loxie
26th August 2017, 22:03
Bob...keep thinking out loud!! :sun:

Star Tsar
26th August 2017, 23:53
Newsy

Hurricane Harvey May Impact Environment, Gas

Published 26th August 2017

The entire U.S. could soon feel the environmental impact of Hurricane Harvey.

Supporting link: https://www.newsy.com/stories/hurricane-harvey-could-lead-to-higher-gas-prices-pollution/

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Eric J (Viking)
27th August 2017, 18:29
Looking pretty grim at Houston...

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-flooding

Vikng

TargeT
28th August 2017, 03:45
My son's car is in water up to the roof and my mother in law's neighborhood is flooded, but the water didn't enter the house luckily...

crazy weather with more to come apparently.... FEMA officially says it will "be there for years".

Callista
28th August 2017, 13:45
Harveygeddon: All the Signatures of a Manmade Weather event.

Source: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=82143

HURRICANE HARVEY is Houston’s Katrina

http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/102930220-GettyImages-97224410.530x298.jpg

Up to 50 inches of rain in some places

“To put the rainfall total in perspective, Seattle averages 37 inches
of rain a year, Atlanta gets about 50 inches a year, and Miami, Fla.,
receives about 62 inches a year, according to Weather.com.”

Hurricane Harvey has now evolved into a 1000 year flood for areas of East Texas.

Even today this superstorm has already attained a catastrophe status of truly biblical proportions…and it still has days of rain-dumping predicted.

Truly, this calamity will prove to be the worst manmade weather event in Texas history.

How does such a disastrous deluge come out of nowhere and catch so many completely unaware?

Even the U.S. Federal Government, Texas State Government and Houston Municipal Government appear to have been blindsided.

This simple fact — when a superstorm seemingly comes out of nowhere — is often the sure sign of a geoengineered weather system. For those who doubt that this catastrophe was manufactured, please view the following video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQJbWcCp45U

The group of geoengineering researchers who have conducted an exhaustive investigation of this matter have put together an excellent and compelling video analysis as follows:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqi4dCnrJAc

With this critical understanding, the reader can more easily apprehend the true purposes behind Hurricane Harvey as delineated at this link: Hurricane Harvey: A Geoengineered Superstorm Targets Texas—WHY?


Continue reading:http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=82143

Hervé
28th August 2017, 19:07
Yep, Houston's got a big problem...


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Intersection along Sam Houston Pkwy. Water about 17 feet deep


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Foxie Loxie
28th August 2017, 22:15
I wonder "who" is winning the Weather Wars? Simply unbelievable!! :shocked:

TargeT
29th August 2017, 01:29
Hopefully this isn't as bad as it sounds.....

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Noelle
29th August 2017, 13:50
Here is an article (http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-28-weather-wars-theorists-claim-hurricane-harvey-was-engineered-steered-toward-houston-as-a-weather-terrorism-weapon.html#) that looks at the "Weather Wars" and Hurricane Harvey. It was shared on David Icke's blog today.

jake gittes
29th August 2017, 13:55
I've studied hurricanes for more than two decades. Harvey, like Katrina and Sandy, is suspicious in its intensification. IMO likely Hurricane HAARPey.

Hervé
29th August 2017, 18:45
'This is a nightmare event': Levee breached south of Houston in 800 year flood event (https://www.rt.com/usa/401349-houston-flooding-levee-breached-dam/)

RT (https://www.rt.com/usa/401349-houston-flooding-levee-breached-dam/)
Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:11 UTC


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© Nick Oxford / Reuters


Officials of Brazoria County, Texas have urged residents in the Columbia Lakes area, South of Houston, to evacuate immediately following a breach of the levee at the Brazos river.

'This is a nightmare event,' Brazoria County Judge Matt Sebesta said of the levee failure.

The Brazos River has risen to historic heights as a result of storm Harvey and caused the levee to fail Tuesday, a scenario that authorities feared.

More heavy rain is expected through Wednesday, raising concerns that other levees are at risk.

Houston's Addicks dam began to spill over Tuesday.




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7:31 AM - 29 Aug 2017
1,068 replies 9,367 retweets 9,137 likes Engineers have been releasing water from the dam in order to reduce pressure on the structure, causing more flooding in the area. However, the releases couldn't keep up with the fast rising water levels.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/818774257538736129/Q8LMhsGK_bigger.jpg Travis Herzog‏ @TravisABC13 (https://twitter.com/TravisABC13)

#BREAKING (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash): Brazos River breaches levee at Columbia Lakes in Brazoria County. Residents urged to get out now!


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7:58 AM - 29 Aug 2017
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The difficulty of controlling the release is "something we've never seen before," flood control official Jeff Lindner told reporters.

On Monday, officials in Fort Bend County ordered the first mandatory evacuations along the Brazos River in Houston amid fears that the levees might collapse.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/619271293402267648/bcAxWQCr_bigger.jpg Jim Cantore‏Verified account @JimCantore (https://twitter.com/JimCantore)

Levees in Fort Bend county designed for 100 year flood. The 59' crest forecast for the Brazos River at Richmond is a 800 year flood via EM

7:13 PM - 28 Aug 2017
10 replies 227 retweets 319 likes The Army Corps of Engineers began to release water from the Addicks and Barker reservoirs before 2am Monday - ahead of schedule - because water levels were increasing dramatically at a rate of more than six inches per hour, corps spokesman Jay Townsend said.

The two reservoirs were meant to safeguard Houston from flooding.

However, the levees were not designed to handle the expected 59 foot (18 meters) crest of the Brazos River which authorities say represented an 800 year flood event.

Thousands of people are in danger as they try to escape.

Four children and their great-grandparents were among the 14 people who have died in Texas trying to escape the floodwaters unleashed by Hurricane Harvey.

"The 14 reported dead include a family of six who were lost when their van sunk after crossing a bridge and hitting high water," Harris County sheriff's office said. The youngest in the family was six years old.

The Coast Guard told their relatives that they could not search for the bodies until the water recedes.

Texas officials fear that the death toll from Harvey is likely to rise, the Austin American-Statesman reported.

Hervé
29th August 2017, 19:05
RT Update (Aug. 29) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/Update (Aug. 29) At 49.3 inches of rain in southeast Houston, Harvey has set a cyclone rainfall record. And for the first time in its history, one of the Houston area's two reservoirs is overflowing. The reservoirs, which flank Interstate 10 on the west side of Houston, flow into the Buffalo Bayou and are surrounded by parks and residential areas. Water levels in the two reservoirs had already reached record levels Monday evening, measuring 105 feet at Addicks and 99 feet at Barker. Engineers were unable to measure water levels at the Barker Reservoir on Tuesday because its gauge was flooded overnight, said Jeff Lindner, the Harris County flood control meteorologist. The overflow did not represent a "failure" of the dam, stressed Richard K. Long, a natural resource management specialist with the Army Corps of Engineers. "These are not your typical dams; these are unique because of the type of terrain we have," Long said, referring to Houston's relatively flat plain. The Addicks and Barker reservoirs each have a main spillway and two auxiliary spillways. Water hadn't breached either of those spillways, but instead was overflowing through a slightly lower point on the north end of the Addicks Reservoir. More rain is on the way: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott activated his state's entire National Guard, deploying 12,000 servicemen to respond to the hurricane. The Harris County Sheriff's Office used motorboats, airboats, and other vehicles to rescue more than 2,000 people in the greater Houston area on Sunday, a spokesman said. The National Weather Service has issued flood watches and warnings from near San Antonio to New Orleans, an area home to more than 13 million people. Estimates are that some 30,000 Houston residents will be left temporarily homeless. Houston airport will probably be closed until Thursday. Experts say there's an additional risk: waterborne illnesses: "Any time you have water, particularly water that is standing, you can have any number of bacteria or viruses," said Jonathan Yoder, deputy chief of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) waterborne disease prevention branch. "As a general rule, people should anticipate that that water is likely to be, at some level, contaminated." What it might be contaminated with ranges from unpleasant but relatively harmless gastrointestinal hazards, such as norovirus, to rarer, more serious bacteria - including Vibrio, a potentially deadly micro-organism naturally found along the Gulf Coast.)

At 49.3 inches of rain (http://news.trust.org/item/20170829153649-u7391) in southeast Houston, Harvey has set a cyclone rainfall record. And for the first time in its history, one of the Houston area's two reservoirs is overflowing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/28/houston-releases-water-from-two-dams-in-attempt-to-prevent-uncontrolled-overflow/?utm_term=.3083a9ce8c92).
The reservoirs, which flank Interstate 10 on the west side of Houston, flow into the Buffalo Bayou and are surrounded by parks and residential areas. Water levels in the two reservoirs had already reached record levels Monday evening, measuring 105 feet at Addicks and 99 feet at Barker.

Engineers were unable to measure water levels at the Barker Reservoir on Tuesday because its gauge was flooded overnight, said Jeff Lindner (https://twitter.com/JeffLindner1/status/902511820010868736), the Harris County flood control meteorologist.

The overflow did not represent a "failure" of the dam, stressed Richard K. Long, a natural resource management specialist with the Army Corps of Engineers.

"These are not your typical dams; these are unique because of the type of terrain we have," Long said, referring to Houston's relatively flat plain. The Addicks and Barker reservoirs each have a main spillway and two auxiliary spillways. Water hadn't breached either of those spillways, but instead was overflowing through a slightly lower point on the north end of the Addicks Reservoir. More rain is on the way (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/28/houston-crippled-by-catastrophic-flood-mass-evacuations-ordered.html):

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott activated his state's entire National Guard, deploying 12,000 servicemen to respond to the hurricane.
The Harris County Sheriff's Office used motorboats, airboats, and other vehicles to rescue more than 2,000 people in the greater Houston area on Sunday, a spokesman said.
The National Weather Service has issued flood watches and warnings from near San Antonio to New Orleans, an area home to more than 13 million people.

Estimates are that some 30,000 Houston residents will be left temporarily homeless. Houston airport will probably be closed until Thursday. Experts say there's an additional risk: waterborne illnesses (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-harvey/hurricane-harvey-may-leave-behind-health-hazards-water-n796791):
"Any time you have water, particularly water that is standing, you can have any number of bacteria or viruses," said Jonathan Yoder, deputy chief of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) waterborne disease prevention branch. "As a general rule, people should anticipate that that water is likely to be, at some level, contaminated."

What it might be contaminated with ranges from unpleasant but relatively harmless gastrointestinal hazards, such as norovirus, to rarer, more serious bacteria - including Vibrio, a potentially deadly micro-organism naturally found along the Gulf Coast.

GrayWolfBG
29th August 2017, 20:06
D'ya know I'm so conflicted!!!
I know man is impacting our planet in a very negative way but I'm not so sure that it is 'controlled' as some posters here think ( though I do not dismiss it as 'looney talk').

We've been able to watch the russian/Chinese parades 'cause they cloud seeded down wind to keep the rain away ( even through whole olympic games!!!) but directed influence in the way some folk are mooting????

Eric J (Viking)
29th August 2017, 20:37
I wonder how the media draw the line of importance on Harvey... 😤 as awful as it is... 😢

Biblical flooding in Mumbai India but nothing on mainstream.... 😞

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/08/monsoon-rains-bring-mumbai-standstill-170829134146264.html

Viking

TargeT
30th August 2017, 14:50
D'ya know I'm so conflicted!!!
I know man is impacting our planet in a very negative way but I'm not so sure that it is 'controlled' as some posters here think ( though I do not dismiss it as 'looney talk').

We've been able to watch the russian/Chinese parades 'cause they cloud seeded down wind to keep the rain away ( even through whole olympic games!!!) but directed influence in the way some folk are mooting????

I dunno about the whole "man impacting in a very negative way" part... as that eludes to causation of hurricanes etc.

I've said this before, as the solar minimum continues we will have wildly variant weather (cosmic rays are blocked less when the sun is in a minimum, which causes more cloud formations and temperature variants, these variants are what cause more massive storms as the cold and warm fronts clash).. this is JUST the beginning, I expect some pretty crazy (globally) storms over the next few years as we head into a cooling trend.

Carmody
30th August 2017, 15:48
Houston is one of the key points in the North American Superhighway enterprise.

Best soften it up, before taking over ownership of all the lands, and have the government and people pay for the new to come superhighway infrastructure and port systems.

What a co-inkydink! Gee, that would never happen.

Why fight them, when you can get them to fund your move into a new form of control and fortune?

That's the kind of mark the hidden hand has, one which gets you coming and going. Profit from your life, profit from your death, and so on.

http://www.peaktraffic.org/graphics/I69TTC_20080611_MAP_1600.jpg

Economic collapse, fascist directions (whatever works!) and then the people can shovel dirt proudly, reviving their economy via the infrastructure of a new autobahn!

We know that weather control exists, we specifically have treaties that are about preventing it's use.

Foxie Loxie
30th August 2017, 16:03
I wonder if Houston will now be "federalized"? Isn't that what happened with Detroit & Miami? Correct me if I'm not understanding this! :confused:

Carmody
30th August 2017, 16:05
the oil sitting off the port and not being unloaded, now sits at what, 17 million barrels?

And it is only going to get worse.

Right now, we are looking at..at least..a full day's worth of US oil consumption sitting off the port of Houston. Possibly more, before the final tally is in.

This means a big jump in gas prices. The kind that can notably increase the profits of oil companies.

The price increase will be in effect for quite some time, as this kind of blip is not just unexpected but they generally take a notable amount of time to settle down even when under stable control as a known and expected planned for scenario.

Noelle
30th August 2017, 16:06
D'ya know I'm so conflicted!!!
I know man is impacting our planet in a very negative way but I'm not so sure that it is 'controlled' as some posters here think ( though I do not dismiss it as 'looney talk').

We've been able to watch the russian/Chinese parades 'cause they cloud seeded down wind to keep the rain away ( even through whole olympic games!!!) but directed influence in the way some folk are mooting????

Right, I am not convinced yet on some of the wilder claims, like the cloud or vapor machines forming hurricanes, but HAARP and storm intensifying and steering are things I am considering more seriously.

While researching this over the last couple of days, I came across Project Cirrus. From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirrus): "Project Cirrus was the first attempt to modify a hurricane. It was a collaboration of the General Electric Corporation, the US Army Signal Corps, the Office of Naval Research, and the US Air Force.[1] After several preparations, and initial skepticism by government scientists,[6] the first attempt to modify a hurricane began on October 13, 1947 on a hurricane that was heading west to east and out to sea.[5] An airplane flew along the rainbands of the hurricane, and dropped nearly 180 pounds (82 kilograms) of crushed dry ice into the clouds.[1] The crew reported "Pronounced modification of the cloud deck seeded".[5] It is not known if that was due to the seeding. Next, the hurricane changed direction and made landfall near Savannah, Georgia. The public blamed the seeding, and Irving Langmuir claimed that the reversal had been caused by human intervention.[6] Cirrus was canceled,[5] and lawsuits were threatened. Only the fact that a system in 1906 had taken a similar path, as well as evidence showing that the storm had already begun to turn when seeding began, ended the litigation.[5] This disaster set back the cause of seeding hurricanes for eleven years."

Could it be that many factors are at work, even our own consciousness? I remember seeing some statistics recently showing that storms have become more intense since the 1980s. What happened in the 1980s? Non-stop cable TV was born. Stations like CNN and The Weather Channel launched in the early 1980s. What happens every time a tropical system forms? Using our TVs and computers, we all watch it develop and move, many with fear and excitement over the possibility of being in its path.

Carmody
30th August 2017, 16:16
I wonder if Houston will now be "federalized"? Isn't that what happened with Detroit & Miami? Correct me if I'm not understanding this! :confused:

In order to get the proposed 'North American Highway' to come into being, they would have to fund the ports. Pay for the ports. Pay for the infrastructure upgrades, ownership, and so on. Fight the people, fight the information pouring out of the people who would be against it. Like the aware people who have been fighting it up until now.

With a disaster in the given area, one of this nature, the lands will be cheap, the government will subside or enable or both, and so on. No place like war... to hide a few murders. In this case, the desired scenario can go forward under a cover of sorts and no one being the wiser.

the kind of people angling for a north American union of Mexico, the us and Canada... are the same who are proposing the North American Superhighway.... are the same people in control of the oil and energy sectors..... and the same people who can actually control weather.

Too many coincidences in one spot to ignore.

In a court of law, motive is definitely provable. As is the gain provable.

IF there was a next stage to creating a North American Union and these things are true..which they ARE....then waiting for the right storm and coaxing it to kill what you need to be killed..well...there you go.

Damage Trump at the same time. Manifold birds with one stone.

Look into possibilities of ownership laws and lease, put options, purchases, sales, and so on, across the board in all involved potentials-which will be many. The mark may be found there, if it is to be found at all.

These things I say are just potentials ....but the motivations, the technology, the reality of outcome, how the finances and rebuild can play out, the groups involved, are all real and extant.

These are globalists... so fighting a war with the us population is not a problem. To add, a very successful one as loss of life, is exceedingly minimal. Very Sun Tzu.

Trump is in the middle of dealing with NFATA (globalist) and this is the proposed NAFTA (globalist) superhighway. The #1 proposed and selected port town for the us continent (lower 48) NAFTA superhighway.... is somehow greased to the point of perfection - for a rebuild.

Imagine that.

TargeT
30th August 2017, 18:13
But wait..... there's more:

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/tropical-threat-to-track-across-atlantic-this-week-will-it-affect-the-us/70002598
https://accuweather.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/6ceb321/2147483647/resize/590x/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccuweather-bsp.s3.amazonaws.com%2F51%2Fb3%2Ffef39588468da08557ad8cb49115%2Fstatic-irma-track-map-11-am.jpg
That solar minimum though..... Might be some bad news for florida, or it could track right in behind Harvey and finish off houston? we'll see in a couple weeks. (or it could blast through the islands.... which I'm hoping it doesn't)

https://accuweather.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/f613330/2147483647/resize/590x/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccuweather-bsp.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fc1%2Fc3%2F1dc42e194f32bfbfff50ffce47ea%2Fstatic-irma-animation-10-am-wed.gif

Ivanhoe
30th August 2017, 20:43
Well, here in Shreveport we're waiting for Harvey to push through.
Originally we expected 4-8" of rain and 45 mph winds but that's been downgraded to 2-4"/35 mph.
I spent this morning getting sand bags and placing them at strategic points around the house to channel the water away, but we'll still have some flooding.
East of me, around the Ruston/Monroe area, they're expecting about 8"+, and they're in a low area with bayou's, so they will get some serious flooding.
Down in the Nachitoches area, where my niece goes to school, they have over 20" of rain and are expecting more.

Harley
31st August 2017, 00:45
Hmmm. Don't mean to be an alarmist folks, but this is extremely unusual and quite the big deal.

It appears that the US Air Force and US Navy may be taking control of surveillance (and possibly Defense) of Texas with Active Military Assets.

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US Military Begins Surveillance Flights Above Houston (https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/08/30/us-military-begins-surveillance-flights-houston/?ESRC=dod-bz.nl)

AUGUST 30, 2017
ONLINE DEFENSE and ACQUISITION JOURNAL (https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/08/30/us-military-begins-surveillance-flights-houston/?ESRC=dod-bz.nl)

http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/0830/h_1504137489_4581813_d014c955d7.jpeg

[EXCERPTS:]

The U.S. has sent up one Navy P-8 Poseidon (http://www.military.com/equipment/p-8a-poseidon) maritime, patrol and reconnaissance aircraft, and a single Air Force E-3 Sentry (http://www.military.com/equipment/e-3-sentry-awacs) Airborne Warning and Control System, or AWACS, aircraft to conduct air traffic control, surveillance, gather data on flooded areas and provide situational awareness to the 1st Air Force (Air Forces Northern) operations center.

Mary McHale, spokeswoman for AFNORTH, says the operations center is currently using and monitoring 11 HH-60 Pave Hawk (http://www.military.com/equipment/hh-60g-pave-hawk) helicopters; seven HC-130J (http://www.military.com/equipment/hc-130j-combat-king) extended-range, search and rescue aircraft, which are also acting as “refuelers as well as cargo as tasked;” and some Civil Air Patrol Cessna aircraft.

“We are not using any MQ-1 [Predator] (http://www.military.com/equipment/mq-1b-predator) [or MQ-9 [Reaper] (http://www.military.com/equipment/mq-9-reaper) assets at this time,” McHale clarified when asked if other surveillance aircraft are being dispatched.

Earlier Wednesday, the Air Force said some of the HC-130J Combat King IIs, HH-60G Pave Hawks, aircrew and other support personnel from the 23rd Wing at Moody Air Force Base, Georgia, deployed to College Station, Texas. This includes approximately 120 personnel from the 41st, 38th and 71st Rescue Squadrons under the 347th Rescue Group.

Other Pave Hawks, along with some Combat King HC-130P/N — which can also provide helicopter air-to-air refueling — from the 90th Rescue Wing at Patrick Air Force Base, Florida, arrived at Naval Air Station Fort Worth Joint Reserve Base on Aug. 28.

Two C-17 Globemaster IIIs left Joint Base Charleston, South Carolina, on Tuesday carrying 30.6 tons of relief supplies to Alexandria International Airport, in Alexandria, Louisiana.

“They had two crews launch to carry relief cargo and support personnel into the region. Aircrews were comprised of members from the 14th, 15th and 16th Airlift Squadrons,” Capt. Mark Graff, an Air Force spokesman, said in an email.

Two Air National Guard C-130 Hercules aircraft and 20 airmen from the Oregon Air National Guard’s 125th Special Tactics Squadron and the 304th Rescue Squadron are providing humanitarian support.

The Alaska Air National Guard’s 176th Wing departed Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson on a C-130 on Monday, with 21 members to include pararescuemen, combat rescue officers, combat support personnel and aircrew. The unit is expected to coordinate missions with HH-60 helicopters from California’s 129th Rescue Wing.

Lastly, more than a dozen airmen from the Kentucky Air National Guard’s 123rd Special Tactics Squadron are assisting with rescue and recovery efforts.

Noelle
31st August 2017, 03:18
Here's GeoEngineeringWatch's take on Harvey. Dane Wigington says the hurricane was engineered. The video is short, less than 12 mins.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF2jIeJ2RUg

Harley
31st August 2017, 05:51
Here's another report from CNN:

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US Military Sends Warships, Aircraft To Texas (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/texas-harvey-flooding-military-response/index.html)

8:26 PM ET, Wed August 30, 2017

[Excerpts]

Navy and Air Force

Two US Navy warships, the USS Kearsarge and the USS Oak Hill, are being deployed to Texas, the Navy announced Wednesday.

The Kearsarge, an amphibious assault ship, was in the Atlantic Ocean for training, but returned to Norfolk on Tuesday to load up with disaster relief supplies like water and food, and a unit of Marines, before departing for Texas on Thursday.

The Oak Hill, a smaller dock landing ship, will bring supplies and join the Kearsarge in supporting "federal, state and local authorities ongoing relief efforts in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey," according to the Navy.

Air Force and Navy helicopters began flying rescue missions in Texas on Monday night, according to a US defense official, marking the first use of active duty military assets in the hurricane rescue efforts. The helicopters used included six Navy MH-60s and three Air Force HH-60 rotary wing aircraft.

Marines, Defense Logistics Agency and Army

The US Marine Corps is deploying 690 US Marines aboard the USS Kearsarge and the USS Oak Hill set to sail on Thursday, according to a US Marine Corps official. The official said the Marines will be from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, II Marine Expeditionary Force Marine Expeditionary Force and will assist in support efforts.

The official said additional aviation assets will include: eight MV-22B Ospreys, three CH-53E Super Stallions and three UH-1Y Hueys. In addition to the air assets, the Marines will also have water purification and storage capability.

Reserve Marines from various units in Texas are supporting FEMA, state and local response efforts, according to a statement from the service on Wednesday.

"Currently, Charlie Company, 4th Assault Amphibian Battalion, based in Galveston, and Charlie Company, 4th Reconnaissance Battalion, based in San Antonio, are conducting immediate response missions in support of the relief efforts," the statement said.

A number of Marine Corps boats, aircraft and tactical vehicles are awaiting orders from US Northern Command, it added.

Source: CNN.COM (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/texas-harvey-flooding-military-response/index.html)

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Sunny
31st August 2017, 11:09
"Right, I am not convinced yet on some of the wilder claims, like the cloud or vapor machines forming hurricanes, but HAARP and storm intensifying and steering are things I am considering more seriously."

In February 2016, Tropical Cyclone Winston came directly over the island where I live. I do not know if hurricanes can be created from scratch either, but I feel certain that they can be intensified and steered in a way that is not natural. My experience is that in 2016, there were several hurricanes that began to behave in a different way than people expected. It seems to me that they were existing hurricanes that were then modified.

Tropical Cyclone Winston was not the same pattern as a normal low pressure system, which all the hurricanes I was familiar with up to that point (over a 20 year period) had had.

In a low pressure system, it rains a bit, then stops a bit, then more rain, then stops again, the rain is more, the dry is less, the wind is picking up, then the storm really hits and it is all rain and wind for awhile. Cyclone Winston, looped and was far away and then came back all at once. It was sunny weather even on the day it hit. While it was looping it was sitting over warm water for several days, picking up strength and speed.

On that day, I was told to stop working at 10 pm to go to shelter. But nothing was happening. The wind was just starting to pick up. It was barely raining. I felt confident enough to take a shower and arrived late. Went to bed. At midnight the storm came with unimaginable force. That is not normal! You don't go from nothing happening to a category 5 hurricane in two hours!

It had not occurred to me before Cyclone Winston to look for signs of geoengineering in the sky above me, but I did afterwards. The weird cloud/chemtrail formations that people describe have been happening here almost daily since that time. Maybe before too, but I wasn't looking.

One of the things that happens here is where there are no clouds in the dome of the sky, just a ring of clouds 360 degrees around the horizon. If a cloud goes upward, it dissolves. This makes it very hot, because there are no clouds for shade. Hotter weather is conducive to the formation and intensification of hurricanes.

We also have all the other things of repeating patterns of clouds, clouds at weird angles, clouds in a starburst pattern, etc.

But two days ago, it really took the cake. Half of the sky was filled with long thin lines like pick-up sticks that extended across the Western horizon upwards to the center of the sky. The eastern portion of the sky was grey clouds. It was fifty or more long thin lines in a repeating pattern of parallel lines with a thin space between each line that was exactly equal to the width of the line itself. It did not look like clouds. Chemtrails, etc. at least look like clouds. My friend and I looked up for awhile, flabbergasted. After this pattern appeared, it rained for ten minutes.

Robert Deutsch posted a video last year about low frequency transmissions taking place from Nadi airport. Maybe even more is happening, who knows?

When I took a ferry trip last year, I could see that the chemtrail etc. patterns were happening over other Fijian islands, not just mine.

So, solar minimums are fine, but I doubt it is the whole story.

TargeT
31st August 2017, 13:29
Chemical plant explodes 2x this AM, "more explosions expected" says plant owner....
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-harvey/harvey-danger-major-chemical-plant-near-houston-likely-explode-facility-n797581

I expect things like this will just keep piling on as the water goes no where.



Texas activated 2,000 national guard members and is asking for an additional 10,000 from other states.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/2017/08/30/texas-activates-2000-more-guardsmen-asks-for-10000-from-other-states-for-harvey-support/

Noelle
31st August 2017, 13:39
"Right, I am not convinced yet on some of the wilder claims, like the cloud or vapor machines forming hurricanes, but HAARP and storm intensifying and steering are things I am considering more seriously."

In February 2016, Tropical Cyclone Winston came directly over the island where I live. I do not know if hurricanes can be created from scratch either, but I feel certain that they can be intensified and steered in a way that is not natural. My experience is that in 2016, there were several hurricanes that began to behave in a different way than people expected. It seems to me that they were existing hurricanes that were then modified.

Tropical Cyclone Winston was not the same pattern as a normal low pressure system, which all the hurricanes I was familiar with up to that point (over a 20 year period) had had.

In a low pressure system, it rains a bit, then stops a bit, then more rain, then stops again, the rain is more, the dry is less, the wind is picking up, then the storm really hits and it is all rain and wind for awhile. Cyclone Winston, looped and was far away and then came back all at once. It was sunny weather even on the day it hit. While it was looping it was sitting over warm water for several days, picking up strength and speed.

On that day, I was told to stop working at 10 pm to go to shelter. But nothing was happening. The wind was just starting to pick up. It was barely raining. I felt confident enough to take a shower and arrived late. Went to bed. At midnight the storm came with unimaginable force. That is not normal! You don't go from nothing happening to a category 5 hurricane in two hours!

It had not occurred to me before Cyclone Winston to look for signs of geoengineering in the sky above me, but I did afterwards. The weird cloud/chemtrail formations that people describe have been happening here almost daily since that time. Maybe before too, but I wasn't looking.

One of the things that happens here is where there are no clouds in the dome of the sky, just a ring of clouds 360 degrees around the horizon. If a cloud goes upward, it dissolves. This makes it very hot, because there are no clouds for shade. Hotter weather is conducive to the formation and intensification of hurricanes.

We also have all the other things of repeating patterns of clouds, clouds at weird angles, clouds in a starburst pattern, etc.

But two days ago, it really took the cake. Half of the sky was filled with long thin lines like pick-up sticks that extended across the Western horizon upwards to the center of the sky. The eastern portion of the sky was grey clouds. It was fifty or more long thin lines in a repeating pattern of parallel lines with a thin space between each line that was exactly equal to the width of the line itself. It did not look like clouds. Chemtrails, etc. at least look like clouds. My friend and I looked up for awhile, flabbergasted. After this pattern appeared, it rained for ten minutes.

Robert Deutsch posted a video last year about low frequency transmissions taking place from Nadi airport. Maybe even more is happening, who knows?

When I took a ferry trip last year, I could see that the chemtrail etc. patterns were happening over other Fijian islands, not just mine.

So, solar minimums are fine, but I doubt it is the whole story.

Surprising to hear that even Fiji is experiencing this. In Central Florida, where I am, I see and take photos of the same strange cloud patterns and shapes (triangles and rectangles) and chem trails nearly every day. We are in hurricane country too. When Hurricane Matthew hit Florida last summer, the last-minute wobble that took it just enough east to spare us the worst occurred close to the Kennedy Space Center and Cape Canaveral area.

TargeT
31st August 2017, 14:01
Surprising to hear that even Fiji is experiencing this.

It's only surprising if you try to attribute motive to cloud formation; if you see it as "natural" phenomenon then of course it would be world wide (which it seems to be). We are hardwired to find "the bad guy" in situations, sometimes this can lead us to see what isn't there.

Noelle
31st August 2017, 14:13
Surprising to hear that even Fiji is experiencing this.

It's only surprising if you try to attribute motive to cloud formation; if you see it as "natural" phenomenon then of course it would be world wide (which it seems to be). We are hardwired to find "the bad guy" in situations, sometimes this can lead us to see what isn't there.

With my "surprising," I was referring to Sunny's post in general, not just cloud formations. There's something different going on in our skies and with our weather. As I stated above, it could be natural causes combined with other factors, including geoengineering. I italicized "could" because I don't know anything with certainty.

TargeT
31st August 2017, 14:19
I don't know anything with certainty.

That's my mantra! :highfive:

starlight
31st August 2017, 19:31
I live in TX (more central so didn't flood here) but have family in east TX who were flooded out of their homes... its awful here!

I can vouch for Carmody above, I have friends in Dallas and San Angelo who are claiming they can't find access to gas ANYWHERE right now! This may only be the beginning of this disaster...

TargeT
31st August 2017, 20:07
I live in TX (more central so didn't flood here) but have family in east TX who were flooded out of their homes... its awful here!

I can vouch for Carmody above, I have friends in Dallas and San Angelo who are claiming they can't find access to gas ANYWHERE right now! This may only be the beginning of this disaster...

Irma is set to be a CAT 3 or 4 by the time it passes me on it's way up (it's a CAT 2 as of this morning), if it tracks across my island it's probably headed for TX, if it tracks north of me (HOPEFULLY) it will probably just skirt the coast of FL like most those storms do.
https://accuweather.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7e7c762/2147483647/resize/590x/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccuweather-bsp.s3.amazonaws.com%2F53%2F77%2F4299afc948f0951e9bce38903fe2%2Fstatic-irma-paths-10-am.jpg
Everyone think "go north" thoughts ;)

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/tropical-threat-to-track-across-atlantic-this-week-will-it-affect-the-us/70002598

Windspeeds are 100mph currently... if for some reason it takes the "southern track" which no one is really predicting now it will slam right into TX again like Harvey did.

Living here is so exciting...:raining::facepalm:

Tintin
1st September 2017, 11:28
Here is an article (http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-28-weather-wars-theorists-claim-hurricane-harvey-was-engineered-steered-toward-houston-as-a-weather-terrorism-weapon.html#) that looks at the "Weather Wars" and Hurricane Harvey. It was shared on David Icke's blog today.

Great article. Beat me to it LadyM, I was going to share this as well :clapping:

TargeT
1st September 2017, 22:27
If anyone other than me is doing the "go north" dance, keep it up! It's working!!

Latest path predictions:
https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11
https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11

Noelle
1st September 2017, 22:42
If anyone other than me is doing the "go north" dance, keep it up! It's working!!

Latest path predictions:
https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11
https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11

I'll do the go-north dance with you. I don't want it coming to Florida either.

bobme
2nd September 2017, 03:07
Yet watch how it will be called a good thing for the economy. People will spend more, not out of choice, but the local economy will be booming, because of the fact money is being distributed greatly. Now wait for the price of everything to incease, because gas prices will increase. Cost more to deliver goods. Did your income increase? Thought not. Yet the more you must spend, the greater the economy will be presented to you, by the so called analist of economics. What a destructive place we live in now days. The weather has been minipulated with harp, chem drops from the sky, both man made. Who knows what else. I suggest to all, if you do not know how to survive in the wild, to get books or mauals of edible plants, and get some fishing line and a pole to match. I am not trying to be, nor am I a fear monger type of person. The weather is just not ,normal?, here either. Perhaps this is another thread. I do not know.

Eric J (Viking)
2nd September 2017, 12:25
This looks scarey... possible cat 6 :-(

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=82793


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxuF8IALeg&sns=fb

Viking

TargeT
3rd September 2017, 05:54
This looks scarey... possible cat 6 :-(
Viking

In old German, the name “Irma” actually means “war goddess”…

I'm betting she runs north, I hope that holds true and we just get some rain here on my little rock. hopefully she leaves FL alone also.

https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11
https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11

Sunny
3rd September 2017, 08:58
This looks scarey... possible cat 6 :-(

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=82793


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxuF8IALeg&sns=fb

Viking

I think the hurricane classification system does not go up to Category 6 yet. The highest is Category 5. Here is the page on Wikipedia explaining how hurricanes are classified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir%E2%80%93Simpson_scale.

People have been saying for awhile that if storms keep getting stronger, we will need to add a Category 6 and above.

Foxie Loxie
3rd September 2017, 15:42
TargeT....how about showing us where your "little rock" is!:star:

Eric J (Viking)
4th September 2017, 17:57
Update below... Title needs to change to Harvey and Irma... Otherwise new thread.


https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/09/04/benjamin-fulford-9-4-17...
Now an even bigger weather warfare attack is apparently about to take place in the form of Hurricane Irma. The warning below was forwarded to this writer from a source in the CIA via e-mail:
“MAXIMUM ALERT STATUS – LEAVE COASTAL EASTERN USA ASAP. From NAIG.
Hurricane IRMA – expected landfall Eastern coastline USA, tracking TBA (uncertain) CAT 5 and higher expectation.
Expect major damage – life threatening – major flooding – power outage – transport chaos – looting – high casualty rate/deaths.
Landfall expected from 9th September onwards through 10th and 11th September 2017, could be sooner, TBA.
Updates see:- BPEarthwatch on the web.
ADVISE ALL STATIONS – make preparations now, secure property – LEAVE THE AREA by a distance of at least 60 miles from coast.
Seek altitude, avoid river valleys, flood plains, heavy population areas. Secure food, portable water, fuel and secure shelter.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL. This is “HARVEY” on steroids.
Speed this warning far and wide NOW. Do not wait for the crisis to develop. Even if it does not come ashore (unlikely) the wave propagation is showing wave height expectations of over 50 ft and duration of wavelength of 16 seconds. ALL SHIPPING leave tracking area immediately and run for safe haven at maximum speed while time allows please. All models agree the above data set.
Paget.
Director, North Atlantic Intelligence Group (NAIG) Public Domain. Ends 23.10 02/09/2017 TREAT AS URGENT.”

Viking

Franny
4th September 2017, 18:43
This main thrust of this video is geo-engineering starting at about 20 min. The 20 min intro is about Builderberg and other groups. At about 122 min in they talk about how weather engineering is so predictable that companies and individuals in the know can bet on engineered weather in the stock market and obtain substantial income.


The filmmakers have chosen to use what some may consider polarizing figures to present this information, however their intention is the complete opposite. Although everyone in this film speaks for themselves they hope to present a complete picture that can generally be agreed upon by all.

Nothing in this world works the way you think it does. Governments do not operate the way you think they do, banks do not do what you think they do, the Police Department is not here for what you think it is... nothing in your world works the way you think it does. There's a far higher, bigger picture.

In 1954 a group of industrialists, political elites and even royalty set out to form an organization that will essentially pull the strings of society from behind the scenes. The Bilderberg Group is a group of world leaders, CEOs, heads of banking institutions that meet every year and decide what's going to happen throughout that next year.

The media has largely ignored this organization over the past 50+ years and even today when it's mentioned it's mentioned in a manner in which you shouldn't be asking about it. The mainstream media is now acknowledging that these world leaders are meeting except for there is nothing to worry about. They're not doing anything sinister even thought they meet behind closed doors.

Notice: I am not looking to make any profit from this exploitation. I am simply a concerned patriot volunteering his time to assist in exposing the corruptness in our government and it's dealings with the New World Order.


-NH0RjiReGc

Foxie Loxie
4th September 2017, 20:21
:cheer2: Excellent video, latte!! Thank you...A MUST SEE!!

Noelle
4th September 2017, 20:23
Update below... Title needs to change to Harvey and Irma... Otherwise new thread.


https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/09/04/benjamin-fulford-9-4-17...
Now an even bigger weather warfare attack is apparently about to take place in the form of Hurricane Irma. The warning below was forwarded to this writer from a source in the CIA via e-mail:
“MAXIMUM ALERT STATUS – LEAVE COASTAL EASTERN USA ASAP. From NAIG.
Hurricane IRMA – expected landfall Eastern coastline USA, tracking TBA (uncertain) CAT 5 and higher expectation.
Expect major damage – life threatening – major flooding – power outage – transport chaos – looting – high casualty rate/deaths.
Landfall expected from 9th September onwards through 10th and 11th September 2017, could be sooner, TBA.
Updates see:- BPEarthwatch on the web.
ADVISE ALL STATIONS – make preparations now, secure property – LEAVE THE AREA by a distance of at least 60 miles from coast.
Seek altitude, avoid river valleys, flood plains, heavy population areas. Secure food, portable water, fuel and secure shelter.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL. This is “HARVEY” on steroids.
Speed this warning far and wide NOW. Do not wait for the crisis to develop. Even if it does not come ashore (unlikely) the wave propagation is showing wave height expectations of over 50 ft and duration of wavelength of 16 seconds. ALL SHIPPING leave tracking area immediately and run for safe haven at maximum speed while time allows please. All models agree the above data set.
Paget.
Director, North Atlantic Intelligence Group (NAIG) Public Domain. Ends 23.10 02/09/2017 TREAT AS URGENT.”

Viking

I don't know. It's looking like the storm will go south of Florida and into the Gulf, sparing the East Coast a direct hit.

Hopefully, TargeT is evacuating.

TargeT
4th September 2017, 23:09
TargeT....how about showing us where your "little rock" is!:star:

I'm right where the purple arrow is pointing
36103

Spent all day making sure anything that can become airborne is tied down or put away somewhere, going to board up as many windows as possible tomorrow and finish up a few things,, we aren't getting a direct hit, and it's the southern side so it's weaker as it fights against its own forward movement; but crazy things can happen.. and it's already a cat 4... I've been busy, and will be.. gotta put all my horses out in a big pasture tomorrow, so many other things... :raining:



Hopefully, TargeT is evacuating.

Way too many animals to manage to just leave.. I think I'm pretty set, If my solar panels stay on my house I'll be fine for the most part after I board up everything tomorrow (hopefully I get to leave work early or something).

norman
4th September 2017, 23:14
This site is where I keep an eye on my local weather but it's got a clear enough view of what's sitting out there off your rock too, TargeT.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-63.11,20.70,792

TargeT
4th September 2017, 23:18
very cool website, on that map it looks pretty bad for St Croix... Funny thing is today was beautiful, no clouds, nice and breezy... you'd never know there a monster slowly coming towards us.:wacko:

avid
4th September 2017, 23:52
Fingers, toes, eyes.... everything crossed for the safety of your family and of course, all of the menagerie, horses and the homestead ❤️

RunningDeer
5th September 2017, 00:32
This site is where I keep an eye on my local weather but it's got a clear enough view of what's sitting out there off your rock too, TargeT.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-63.11,20.70,792
Here's a video on how to use the site in under 4 minutes. :thumb:


How to use the earth.nullschool.net World wind map
Lke-5yZw_A8

Callista
5th September 2017, 05:44
Says it all...

https://scontent.fper2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21231200_1493762730691677_6486533665871002591_n.jpg?oh=4ab4647684153499f7c3ad2ca64a0a0f&oe=5A5B64B4

TargeT
5th September 2017, 13:41
its up to a cat 5 now..

I'm at work and the panic is real.. everyone's running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Noelle
5th September 2017, 15:27
its up to a cat 5 now..

I'm at work and the panic is real.. everyone's running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

I am meditating on safety for you and your family (human and non-human) and all of the others in the path of this system.

Star Tsar
5th September 2017, 15:31
Amazing Space

Hurricane Irma Tracking: GOES 16 following Hurricane Irma Livestream

Published 5th September 2017

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11116647.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/irma.jpg

Using Nasa / NOAA satellite GOES 16 we can follow Hurricane Irma as it builds in the Atlantic heading for Florida and the east coast (Streaming live @ time of post).

JjKxRhMG23Q

starlight
5th September 2017, 16:20
Good thoughts coming your way, TargeT! Keep us informed on how you and your assets hold up. Stay safe out there, these water monsters are no joke...

TargeT
5th September 2017, 18:53
it doesn't hit till tomorrow morning in my area, so I still have a few more hours of panicked nailing plywood over every thing

Eric J (Viking)
5th September 2017, 20:17
Date: Tuesday, 5-Sep-2017 15:32:24

Snippet on RM... Hopefully nothing to worry about...

The names of our more recent superstorms appear to be very significant. The storm behind Irma, which could also develop into a hurricane, is named Jose...a derivative of Joseph, which means Increaser, Repeater or Doubler.

Viking

Noelle
5th September 2017, 20:40
Date: Tuesday, 5-Sep-2017 15:32:24

Snippet on RM... Hopefully nothing to worry about...

The names of our more recent superstorms appear to be very significant. The storm behind Irma, which could also develop into a hurricane, is named Jose...a derivative of Joseph, which means Increaser, Repeater or Doubler.

Viking

I did a little research yesterday into storm naming. One source says that giving storms names helps get peoples' attention and to prepare; another says they add to the fear. If we were to ask Tom Campbell about it, he might say naming hurricanes, blizzards, etc. stabilizes, or fixes, them in our reality.

TargeT
6th September 2017, 00:15
THE VIDEOS I POSTED EARLIER WERE FAKE

I'm almost done boarding up all my windows, have to secured my powerpole a bit more and I think I'm as ready as I'll be.

We are suppose to start feeling it tomorrow at 6am or so.

Shadowself
6th September 2017, 00:23
Oh wow TargeT! Be safe and hunker down. Let us know you're okay when you can...we're (i'm) going to worry until we do! (I'm a natural worrier)

We just offered our home to a friend in St Augustine...but he declined. Wants to stick it out....Another one to worry about! Argh!

TargeT
6th September 2017, 00:29
yeah irma hits tomorrow and jose around saturday... when it rains it pours I guess eh?

They told us to report to work tomorrow... haha I'm pretty sure "a tree" or something will be blocking me in if they continue with that ridiculous expectation.

Shadowself
6th September 2017, 00:32
yeah irma hits tomorrow and jose around saturday... when it rains it pours I guess eh?

They told us to report to work tomorrow... haha I'm pretty sure "a tree" or something will be blocking me in if they continue with that ridiculous expectation.

Report to work? You just made me spit out my coffee! That's nuts!

What about the horses? Will they be okay?

Hervé
6th September 2017, 00:42
Preparing for a hurricane: An essential guide (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/preparing-for-a-hurricane-09052017)

Daisy Luther The Organic Prepper (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/preparing-for-a-hurricane-09052017)
Tue, 05 Sep 2017 00:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s20/417821/large/The_Essential_Guide_to_Prepari.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s20/417821/full/The_Essential_Guide_to_Prepari.jpg)

When a disaster draws near, suddenly, preppers don't seem quite so crazy anymore. Right now, with Irma heading our way so closely on the heels of Harvey, a lot of people on the Southeast Coast are feverishly preparing for a hurricane.

UPDATE: The Florida Keys are under mandatory evacuation.

Some are projecting that if Irma doesn't change course, it will be so powerful that meteorologists will need a new Category to describe the storm: Category 6. Keep in mind that Harvey was a Category 4 and that tells you how bad the potential of this storm is. There are many articles out there focusing on that - this one focuses on how to get ready for it.

During times like this, it becomes mainstream to engage in a flurry of activity that looks like an episode of Doomsday Preppers being fast-forwarded across the screen. People rush to the stories in a frenzy, and often get all the wrong things. Most of these folks aren't preppers in the traditional sense - they're just hurrying to get ready because they know something is headed their way.

Even when you aren't a prepper, if you know a hurricane is on the horizon, the best thing you can do is focus and get things together as early on as possible.

This article is for the folks who have never really considered getting ready for an unusual event. If you need to get ready fast because something is headed your way, this may not cover ALL of your bases, but it will get you through at least a short term disaster. Nearly all of the supplies will be easily available at your local Wal-Mart, Target, or hardware store. Some will need to be ordered by mail so do this as soon as you hear that the storm is on its way.

A better option, of course, would be to pick up these items ahead of time and having an emergency kit, sitting there ready when a storm is bearing down. (Wink.) But for now, let's get busy and get prepared for the possibilities.


Action Plan

Here is a plan for getting everything together as efficiently as possible.

Keep on top of the news. (You can sign up for my daily preparedness newsletter here (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/sign-daily-newsletter).)
Go over the shopping list below and figure out what supplies you already have. You'll be spending a bit more money than usual so there's no sense wasting any.
Immediately order the things that you won't be able to get locally to give them time to arrive. This article is filled with helpful links to resources.
Check your insurance coverage to make sure you don't need to make any changes.
Print off the shopping list (Link at the end of the article) and cross off the things that you have or have ordered.
Make your purchases and beat the last-minute, frenzied rush.
Create an evacuation plan in case you can't stay at home. Where will you go, will your pets be welcome, and what are two different routes you can take in the event that the first one is impassable?
Include a list of things you will want to take with you and put these things together. We always used Rubbermaid tubs when it looked like we might have to evacuate. You can find an evacuation checklist here (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/emergency-evacuation-checklist-are-you-prepared-to-bug-out-fast-06302016).
Gather together important papers like ID, birth certificates, deeds/mortgages, insurance paperwork, licenses, etc.
Photograph and inventory the things in your home. Store this in the cloud in case you need to make an insurance claim.
Depending on the type of the storm, prepare the outside of your home by tying down anything loose and boarding up your windows. (Here's a list of things to do before a hurricane (https://www.ready.gov/hurricanes).)

Below, you'll find the things you need to focus on to prepare when a storm is coming.


A water supply

Many events over the past years have taught us that a water emergency can happen to anyone. In the event that your area suffers from tainted tap water, you'll want to have a backup supply on hand to keep your family (including pets) hydrated. This does not mean a case of 24 water bottles.

The thriftiest quick option is to purchase those one-gallon water jugs that are less than a dollar at the store. Get a supply that will last for 2 weeks - one per day, per family member. That will cost approximately $14 per family member. But if you wait too long, the water will be gone.



Some stores are already selling out of water. Circumvent this by filling your own containers. Here are some great containers (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/water-preparedness/products/small-water-storage-barrel) for storing water. If you aren't in an extremely humid area, this storage system (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/water-preparedness/products/long-term-emergency-water-supply-boxes-with-fill-hose-and-treatment-kit) will help you store a lot of water, less expensively, in a small space.



You can find instructions for building your personal water supply in this book (http://amzn.to/2pXhA9L).



Here is an emergency water filter (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/water-preparedness/products/emergency-drip-water-filter).



Communication

Being able to keep in touch with the outside world can help you get essential information or reach out for help. Social media was a primary tool for communication during the aftermath of Harvey.

A phone charger battery like the Jackery (http://amzn.to/2w3dGOB)



A solar phone charger (This one (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/survival-gear/products/solar-light-powerbank-usb-charger) will go for 45 hours and includes a solar lantern. This one (http://amzn.to/2eBHnAi) is less expensive but not as powerful.)



A crank-radio so you can get the news (This one (http://amzn.to/2w2BSRk) also has a phone charger)



Sanitation supplies

Good hygiene is even more important during a disaster. Food and water borne illnesses can be deadly.

Paper towels
Bleach wipes
Baby wipes
Supplies to make a kitty litter toilet for humans. (Instructions here (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/sanitation-in-the-city-what-to-do-when-the-toilet-wont-flush-05262015))
Bleach
Disposable rags for cleaning up
Heavy duty trash bags



Keep the lights on.

When the lights go out, you'll want to have backup lighting. That scented candle in the middle of your coffee table isn't going to last for days and days.

Buy tea lights. They are safe and inexpensive. These burn for 6-7 hours apiece (http://amzn.to/2pX85HG).



Don't forget lighters and matches!



Bring in your solar garden stakes at night for a cozy glow.



Pick up some glow bracelets (http://amzn.to/2pWIezH) for the kiddos. This is a safe way to give them some light in their bedrooms.



Be sure to have flashlights and extra batteries on hand.



We love our LED headlamps (http://amzn.to/2pWIU8d). With these, you can do things hands-free at night, like reading, knitting, or other tasks that require steady illumination.


A way to cook

Even if you have loads of food in your pantry, it won't help you much if you have no way to cook it. Here are a few options.

If you have a gas stove, it will probably work during most power outages. A great way to test this is to simply throw the breaker and make certain it still comes on. Some stoves have an electric ignition and will not turn on without being manually lit.



A backyard barbecue is another thing that most folks already have on hand that can pull double duty during an emergency. Mine also has a burner.



An emergency stove that can be used indoors - this is the one I just ordered. (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/featured-items/products/bobcat-emergency-stove-and-16-48-or-96-hour-survival-fuel-source) and it's less than $40 with 4 fuel cans. Make sure you have plenty of extra fuel (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/survival-gear/products/diethylene-glycol-therma-fuel-16-48-or-96-hour-fuel-source) for it. The cans are rated to burn for 4 hours each, and most bucket meals take 15 minutes to prepare.



A Kelly Kettle is a popular rocket stove that can use any type of biomass to boil water quickly. Find one here (http://amzn.to/2pZDU1A).



A camp stove is another excellent option. Coleman is a trusted name and these can be found in any store with a camping/outdoors department. This one is a classic. (http://amzn.to/2rurRuk) Be sure that you have enough propane to last for 3 meals per day for a couple of weeks.



A food supply

Finally, you need a food supply, and it needs to be shelf-stable. During a longer power outage, the items in your refrigerator will spoil fairly quickly, and eating something that could make you sick is even less of a good idea during an emergency. There are numerous options.

Buy some buckets. Buckets of food are generally considered a one month supply for one person. The fastest, easiest way to build a food supply for emergencies is to pick up a bucket for each member of the family. You can find some good quality, non-GMO buckets here. (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/buckets)



Stock up on canned soups, stews, fruits, and vegetables. These will last a long time on a basement shelf and can be heated up very quickly to conserve your fuel.



Get canned meat: tuna, salmon, chicken, and ham are all readily available.



Consider no-cook options. If you don't have a secondary method, look to things like peanut butter and crackers, dried fruit, canned veggies, and tortillas. Here's a whole list of no-cook foods (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/power-outage-picnic-02132014).



Protein powder is a good option to make a filling, tasty beverage (a lot of emergency food is pretty low on protein.)



Keep dry milk (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/single-ingredients/products/160-serving-powdered-milk-bucket) on hand for coffee, cereal, and drinking. It also comes in chocolate (https://preppersmarket.com/collections/single-ingredients/products/160-serving-chocolate-milk-bucket).



Skip the beans and rice. Unless you are cooking them over the fire in your fireplace, you are going to use far too much fuel to prepare stuff like that from scratch. Focus on foods that can be reheated or prepared in less than 20 minutes.



Don't forget a manual can opener!

The most important thing to remember here is not to rely on the things in your fridge and freezer during a lengthy power outage. You want to eat those things for the first day or so, working from fridge to freezer, but after that, you need to switch to shelf-stable mode.


Disposables

It may not be green, but the last thing you're going to want to deal with during a power outage in which you may not have hot water is washing tons of dishes or laundry. Pick up some disposable items to have on hand for basic sanitation:

Paper plates
Styrofoam cups
Plastic flatware
Napkins
Paper towels
Cleaning wipes



Tools and special supplies

This will vary depending on your disaster, but here are some basics.

Plywood
Screws
Fully charged screwdriver and manual backups
Duct tape
Tarps
Bug spray and insect repellent



Something to do

In our electronics-addicted world, one of the most difficult adjustments for some people during a power outage is the loss of their electronic device. You'll want to have a few things on hand for entertainment that doesn't require an internet connection or a gadget.

Get some books and save them for just such an emergency.
Pick up some magazines and put them away so they'll be fresh and new.
Pick up games, puzzles, and other old-fashioned forms of entertainment.
Do crafts like knitting, carving, painting, or scrapbooking.
Here's a list of power-outage activities (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/im-bored-30-ways-to-keep-kids-entertained-when-the-power-goes-out-02142014) for the kiddos.



Special needs items

This will vary from family to family, but this list should trigger some ideas. Think about the things your family members use and need on a frequent basis.

Prescription medications (probably the most vital thing on the list)
Over the counter medications
Antihistamines
Diapers and baby wipes
Hair elastics (ask any woman with long hair how essential this is!)
Lip balm
Sunscreen
Hand lotion



Keep it all in one place.

I can't encourage you enough to buy these things ahead of time. When an emergency is pending, everyone else is out there with the same idea. However, if you've waited too late, now you know exactly what you need. Go here to download your FREE shopping list (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Hurricane-Prepping-Checklist.pdf). This will make it easier to ensure that you have everything you need when you head out for your shopping spree.

It's wise not to intermingle your emergency supplies with your other supplies. The particularly tasty things will get used up and you'll be left eating saltines and canned peaches. Not fun. Pick up 1-2 large plastic tubs and keep the majority of your supplies in them.

Kristin
6th September 2017, 00:44
Target, be careful and make sure you take care of yourself. My heart goes out to you and yours. WOW. No fun. I've been there with Katrina, so I know what you are going through. Make sure you have an axe in the attic in case of flooding, water, and food.

seko
6th September 2017, 02:25
Target, look after yourself mate. I've been in a couple of hurricanes, last one was Odile in Sept 2014 in Los Cabos, Mexico and it destroyed our small cities. No electricity or city water for at least 2 weeks. We got courage and brought our cities back to life. But it was bloody scary haha!!

Have lots of water, food, cash, etc etc.

Be prepared!!

Sunny
6th September 2017, 04:24
THE VIDEOS I POSTED EARLIER WERE FAKE

I'm almost done boarding up all my windows, have to secured my powerpole a bit more and I think I'm as ready as I'll be.

We are suppose to start feeling it tomorrow at 6am or so.

Good luck, TargeT. My thoughts are with you.

Put as much stuff as you can in plastic. Plastic bins, plastic trunks, plastic laundry bags with a zipper on top, even baggies (believe it). It will help protect from water damage. Put stuff in suitcases. A trunk or suitcase may or may not be waterproof, but it will keep your stuff together and not blowing away. Also put away everything sitting on tables into cabinets or closets.

If you think water has gotten into your electrical system, check before you turn it on again. If there is water in the wiring it can cause a fire.

Animals can do very well even in a category 5 hurricane. We had cats and a horse outside that greeted us again after the storm was over. They were fine.

Sunny
6th September 2017, 04:48
TargeT, what I was trying to say in the above post was, take into account that water might enter your home. Even if you are experienced with hurricanes, category 5 is much stronger than category 4. (I have been in both.)

Noelle
6th September 2017, 13:00
Here is the latest update from GeoEngineeringWatch.org. It discusses Irma and Harvey and includes a 12-minute video. It points out possible agendas for manipulating these systems and the military industrial complex's ability to engineer and guide them.

Hurricane Irma Manipulation: Objectives And Agendas (http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/hurricane-irma-manipulation-objectives-and-agendas/)

Foxie Loxie
6th September 2017, 13:47
Thanks, LadyM......we need to get the word out....that's for sure!! :horn: Hope TargetT & family are doing o.k. :pray::grouphug:

RunningDeer
6th September 2017, 14:29
Here is the latest update from GeoEngineeringWatch.org. It discusses Irma and Harvey and includes a 12-minute video. It points out possible agendas for manipulating these systems and the military industrial complex's ability to engineer and guide them.

Hurricane Irma Manipulation: Objectives And Agendas (http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/hurricane-irma-manipulation-objectives-and-agendas/)

From the website. It already has 15,500 views since September 5th.


Hurricane Irma Manipulation: Objectives And Agendas ( Dane Wigington GeoengineeringWatch.org )
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Published on Sep 5, 2017

http://GeoengineeringWatch.org

TO READ OR POST COMMENTS ON THIS VIDEO, PLEASE GO DIRECTLY TO THE ARTICLE (http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/hurricane-irma-manipulation-objectives-and-agendas/)

Our hope and goal is for this video to be shared far and wide, DO NOT re-upload this video without prior written permission and conditions from GeoengineeringWatch.org

Hurricane Harvey brought an abrupt and catastrophic end to the 12 year long major hurricane landfall drought in the US. Were climate engineering programs a factor in the Harvey disaster scenario? Available data has already made clear the answer is yes. How much decimation will the manipulation of Hurricane Irma inflict?

The US government has been actively engaged in hurricane modification programs for a minimum of 70 years, historical documents prove this fact conclusively. Yet, the power structure controlled circles of academia (and corporate media) continue to fuel total denial of the climate engineering hurricane modification reality, this should not be a surprise. How much decimation have global geoengineering / weather warfare programs already caused? What are the primary objectives and agendas? How much worse will it get? This short video provides verifiable data to confirm that climate engineering is a reality, and exposes some of the primary objectives.

Exposing and halting the ongoing climate engingeering / weather warfare / biological warfare assault is the great imperative of our time. The best chance we have of accomplishing this monumental task is by raising an army of the awakened, by reaching a critical mass. The most effective way of accomplishing this is by sharing credible and compelling data with family, friends, organizations, agencies, elected officials, the list is endless. Only when enough of the population realizes that the fight to expose and halt climate engineering is a fight for life do we stand a chance of bringing these programs to a stop. Make your voice heard, we must all do our part.

Dane Wigington

Callista
6th September 2017, 14:31
Hurricane #Irma Headed Towards Miami After Direct Hit On Caribbean Island Of Barbuda

The strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic, #Irma, made a direct hit on the tiny flat island of Barbuda early Wednesday, devastating the Caribbean home to just 1600 residents with winds up to 185 mph. As of now, there are no reports on damage or casualties – as nobody has been able to make contact with the island for hours.

The Category 5 Hurricane is currently headed towards Puerto Rico, Antigua, St. Kitts and Nevis, and the US Virgin Islands – which is under a 36 hour curfew. “The beginning of the curfew coincides with the expected arrival of heavy rain and strong winds associated with Irma,” he said in a statement.

(continue reading here:)

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Hervé
6th September 2017, 14:43
...


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Wind
6th September 2017, 14:53
Unfortunately it seems that this current strong solar storm might strengthen this hurricane. Stay safe folks.

Chester
6th September 2017, 16:05
...been thinking about you, Target... please let us know whenyou can that you are ok.

Elen
6th September 2017, 16:27
Dear members of the Avalon Forum, here's a suggestion directly from my heart. Why don't we set aside all differences and "Pool" our energy for a common goal. This is what is being done on the TOT forum to counteract the hurricane Irma...too late for Harvey. Take a look here, because together we are very strong (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/11396-Hurricane-Irma?p=841978050&viewfull=1#post841978050)

Ron Mauer Sr
6th September 2017, 16:27
Weather as a weapon may have been directed at Texas as punishment. Texas gold bullion depository getting closer to reality; Will allow Texans to do business in gold. (https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/texas-gold-bullion-depository-getting-closer-reality-will-allow-texans-business-gold/)

Eric J (Viking)
6th September 2017, 17:29
Just heard this...

The four "most solid" buildings on the Caribbean island of Saint Martin have been destroyed as Hurricane Irma wreaks major damage in the region, the French government has said.

http://independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hurricane-irma-latest-saint-martin-caribbean-major-damage-flattens-buildings-tropical-storm-category-a7932446.html

If this is the case the Island must be a disaster.. :-(

Viking

Bob
6th September 2017, 17:34
Just heard this...

The four "most solid" buildings on the Caribbean island of Saint Martin have been destroyed as Hurricane Irma wreaks major damage in the region, the French government has said.

If this is the case the Island but me a disaster.. :-(

Viking

Weather service is quoting 225 mph gusts hitting currently... Hope TargeT, his family and animals are surviving this OK..

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/tropical/tropical_ge_4km_ir4_floater_2/tropical_ge_4km_ir4_floater_2_20170906151500.gif

starlight
6th September 2017, 17:35
I am just beginning to see videos of Irma's destruction on the islands and it looks pretty bad. I have been anxiously awaiting Target's updates. Those beautiful islands don't stand a chance. My heart hurts... :(

Madeira
6th September 2017, 19:17
I am in PR atm and Irma is being relentless...and so far has not even directly hit us, that will be tonight. Just being positive and enjoying my no electricity time reading books and taking pictures of lightning.

Eric J (Viking)
6th September 2017, 19:57
I see Richard Branson has decided to stay put on his private island (Necker Island)...

With all what I've seen so far doesn't bode well...

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-09-05/billionaire-branson-to-ride-out-hurricane-irma-on-necker-island

Viking

Sunny
6th September 2017, 20:21
I am in PR atm and Irma is being relentless...and so far has not even directly hit us, that will be tonight. Just being positive and enjoying my no electricity time reading books and taking pictures of lightning.

Stay safe. Sending positive thoughts for you and TargeT.

Noelle
6th September 2017, 20:41
Dear members of the Avalon Forum, here's a suggestion directly from my heart. Why don't we set aside all differences and "Pool" our energy for a common goal. This is what is being done on the TOT forum to counteract the hurricane Irma...too late for Harvey. Take a look here, because together we are very strong (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/11396-Hurricane-Irma?p=841978050&viewfull=1#post841978050)

I'm putting my thought energy into it.

Indigenous peoples seem to understand how we can impact the weather. Rainmaking rituals, including those of North American tribes, are still practiced today. Back in 1998, Central Florida suffered a severe drought, which resulted in devastating wildfires. I remember reading in the local newspaper how a group of rain dancers from one of the Plains tribes had traveled all the way to our county -- in a school bus -- to do a rain dance. For them to have come all that way to perform their song and dance (focused intent), they must believe it works. It was so long ago, I can't remember if it brought rain to our county. Perhaps it did.

Madeira
6th September 2017, 21:23
So far the south part of PR, where I live, will probably get the less of the impact but it is raining a lot. Got electricity back which is amazing because of the power grid infrastructure. So let's get some coffee and keep reading.

Kristin
6th September 2017, 21:38
So far the south part of PR, where I live, will probably get the less of the impact but it is raining a lot. Got electricity back which is amazing because of the power grid infrastructure. So let's get some coffee and keep reading.

Keeping sane is a big part of keeping safe. Much love to you.

Hervé
7th September 2017, 01:48
Here is one for Target:

Virgin Islands issues emergency order allowing seizure of private weapons ahead of Hurricane Irma (http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/05/virgin-islands-allows-national-guard-to-seize-guns-ammo-ahead-of-hurricane-irma/)

Michael Bastasch The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/05/virgin-islands-allows-national-guard-to-seize-guns-ammo-ahead-of-hurricane-irma/)
Wed, 06 Sep 2017 20:27 UTC


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U.S. Virgin Islands Gov. Kenneth Mapp signed an emergency order allowing the seizure of private guns, ammunition, explosives and property the National Guard may need to respond to Hurricane Irma.

Mapp signed the order Monday in preparation for Hurricane Irma. The order allows the Adjutant General of the Virgin Islands to seize private property they believe necessary to protect the islands, subject to approval by the territory's Justice Department.

Mapp issued an emergency declaration Tuesday and mobilized National Guard units to prepare for the massive storm.

"This is not an opportunity to go outside and try to have fun with a hurricane," Mapp said (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/powerful-category-hurricane-irma-aims-caribbean-islands-49620489). "It's not time to get on a surfboard."

Irma strengthened to a Category 5 storm Tuesday, with wind gusts hitting 175 miles an hour. Irma's eye is expected to pass just north of the heart of the U.S. Virgin Islands on Wednesday and bring four to eight inches or rain and 60-mile-per-hour wind gusts.

The National Hurricane Center is calling the storm "extremely dangerous." Weather forecasters say Irma is headed towards the Florida coastline, and should bring devastating conditions to the region in the next four or five days.

GOP Florida Gov. Rick Scott and Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló both declared states of emergencies in anticipation of Irma.

Scott said President Donald Trump "offered the full resources of the federal government as Floridians prepare for Hurricane Irma."

Irma comes more than one week after Hurricane Harvey brought devastating floods to the greater Houston area.

Click below to read a copy of the order:

Virgin Islands Emergency Order (PDF) (http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NATL-GUARD.pdf)

Noelle
7th September 2017, 01:57
This report on damage to Barbuda is not good: 90% of homes destroyed.

Report from RT.com (https://www.rt.com/news/402254-barbuda-devastated-hurricane-irma/)

Hervé
7th September 2017, 02:08
Saint Martin is slammed by 185mph winds of Hurricane Irma (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4858858/Princess-Juliana-Airport-destroyed-Hurricane-Irma.html)

Kelly Mclaughlin
Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4858858/Princess-Juliana-Airport-destroyed-Hurricane-Irma.html)
Wed, 06 Sep 2017 20:24 UTC


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Dramatic pictures have started to emerge on social media showing the scale of the flooding on St Martin

St Maarten's famous international airport, Princess Juliana, has been destroyed by Hurricane Irma.

The storm ripped through the airport on Wednesday, with 185mph winds blowing over safety fences and battering nearby Maho beach.

Huge rocks smashed into planes, and boarding walkways were slammed to the ground by the downpour of rain and gusts of wind, which also brought loads of sand on to the runway.

Inside the airport, which lies on the Dutch side of Saint Martin island, the check-in lounge was flooded and walkways were damaged by the storm.

Parts of the building had broken off during the storm and were seen lying on the runway after the storm passed.


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Photos of the damage were documented by a hurricane rescue team, who went in after the storm passed.


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Princess Juliana Airport suspended all operations at the airport on Tuesday as a precaution before Hurricane Irma hit.

Michel Hyman, COO/Acting CEO of the airport, said in a statement: 'We regret any inconvenience this will cause, but must stress that the safety and security of all is priority number one at SXM Airport.'

'We will continue to closely monitor the developments of Hurricane Irma as it passes over our area and keep all our personnel, users and stakeholders informed of any further developments as these occur, via the various media outlets,' stated Hyman.

Winair canceled its services on Tuesday and Wednesday, saying it would work to re-book customers' flights at no additional cost.


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Princess Juliana Airport, pictured in the midst of the storm, suspended all operations at the airport on Tuesday as a precaution before Hurricane Irma hit

Hurricane Irma has caused torn off rooftops and knocked out all electricity across Saint Martin, as well as on the French island of Saint Barthelemy.

Banks on St Martin closed on Tuesday ahead of the storm, while WTN-Cable management dismantled its sites to avoid irreparable damage.


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All sites will return to normal after the storm passes and authorities give the go-ahead for people to move around the island.

France has requisitioned planes and sent in emergency food and water rations.


https://www.sott.net/image/s20/418018/large/43F79B4700000578_4858858_Socia.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s20/418018/full/43F79B4700000578_4858858_Socia.jpg)

Social media videos show how the hurricane lashed the coastline of Saint Martin overnight with cars submerged in water. This picture is believed to have been taken at the Beach Plaza hotel on the island

President Donald Trump owns a property in St Martin - Le Chateau des Palmiers, which is currently up for sale.

It is unknown if his property was damaged by the storm.

Meanwhile, a Dutch navy spokeswoman said that marines who flew to three islands hammered by Hurricane Irma have seen a lot of damage, but have no immediate reports of casualties.

Navy spokeswoman Karen Loos says that some troops were able to send images of destruction from St. Maarten and another island, St. Eustatius.

Loos says, 'You do see there is a lot of damage. Trees, houses, roofs that are blown out. A lot of water, high water.'

She says the extent of the damage elsewhere on the island is not yet clear.

The first of two Dutch naval vessels heading for the islands is expected to arrive at 8pm local time in St. Maarten.

The regional authority for Guadeloupe and neighboring islands said in a statement on Wednesday that the fire station in Saint Barthelemy is under 1 meter (more than 3 feet) of water and no rescue vehicles can move.


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It said the government headquarters Saint Martin is partially destroyed and the island is in a total blackout.

Electricity is also partially down on the larger island of Guadeloupe, where the threat receded despite danger of heavy flooding.

French minister for overseas territories Annick Girardin expressed fear 'for a certain number of our compatriots who unfortunately didn't want to listen to the protection measures and go to more secure sites.'


https://www.sott.net/image/s20/418019/large/43F871D400000578_4858858_Hurri.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s20/418019/full/43F871D400000578_4858858_Hurri.jpg)

Hurricane Irma has caused torn off rooftops and knocked out all electricity across Saint Martin (pictured), as well as on the French island of Saint Barthelemy

She added: 'We're preparing for the worst.'

Antigua and Barbuda Prime Minister Gaston Browne said his twin-island nation appears to have weathered its brush with Hurricane Irma.

He said there were no deaths in Antigua and preliminary reports indicated there were no deaths in Barbuda despite widespread reports of damaged buildings and downed trees. He said he plans to visit as soon as possible.

Hurricane Irma is roaring along a path pointing to Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Cuba before possibly heading for Florida over the weekend.

President Donald Trump declared emergencies in Florida, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, and authorities in the Bahamas said they would evacuate the residents of six islands at the southern end of the island chain amid fears the hurricane is hurtling towards the US east coast.

A mandatory evacuation is under way in the Florida Keys.

National Weather Service Director Louis Uccellini said that Hurricane Irma is so record-breaking strong it's impossible to hype.

Uccellini said on Wednesday that he's concerned about Florida up the east coast to North Carolina, starting with the Florida Keys.

He warns that 'all the hazards associated with this storm' are going to be dangerous.

Hurricane expert Kerry Emanuel of MIT calculates that Irma holds about 7 trillion watts - about twice the energy of all bombs used in World War II.

The Category 5 storm made a direct hit Wednesday on Saint Martin, the island where the Dutch territory of St Maarten is located. Some 100 Dutch marines flew to the islands on Monday to prepare for the hurricane.


https://www.sott.net/image/s20/418017/large/43F86D9B00000578_4858858_image.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s20/418017/full/43F86D9B00000578_4858858_image.jpg)

Huge rocks smashed into planes, and boarding walkways were slammed to the ground by the downpour of rain and gusts of wind, which also brought loads of sand on to the runway

Bob
7th September 2017, 02:12
(oye, sigh, my heart goes out for them, we've gone thru such here with Colorado's flooding but not like this... TargeT are you out there? )

Hurricane Jose is right on it's heels...

Madeira
7th September 2017, 02:29
10:30 pm...got electricity but no internet at my house (it is a concrete house not on the coast). I can count the times in my life I've been scared, and this is turning to be one of them. These wind gushes feel like around 60 to 80 mph. My papaya tree is down, I guess no more smoothies. Never seen a system like this in my whole life. Be ready whoever lives in Dominican Republic, Cuba and southern USA.

Bob
7th September 2017, 03:19
Please be safe Madeira, stay away from windows, (flying glass).. hugs..

Joe from the Carolinas
7th September 2017, 03:40
10:30 pm...got electricity but no internet at my house (it is a concrete house not on the coast). I can count the times in my life I've been scared, and this is turning to be one of them. These wind gushes feel like around 60 to 80 mph. My papaya tree is down, I guess no more smoothies. Never seen a system like this in my whole life. Be ready whoever lives in Dominican Republic, Cuba and southern USA.

The papaya will grow back and plenty of papayas to pick up after the storm. in the meantime keep your phones plugged in while power lasts. Stay safe friend. Sending you positive vibes if that is okay.

Sunny
7th September 2017, 08:36
10:30 pm...got electricity but no internet at my house (it is a concrete house not on the coast). I can count the times in my life I've been scared, and this is turning to be one of them. These wind gushes feel like around 60 to 80 mph. My papaya tree is down, I guess no more smoothies. Never seen a system like this in my whole life. Be ready whoever lives in Dominican Republic, Cuba and southern USA.

During the hurricane we had here last year, papayas flew all over the island and seeded themselves everywhere. Now there are more papayas than before. You may end up with a renaissance of papayas.

Madeira
7th September 2017, 09:35
Thanks everybody, a little joke between the lines to keep the spirit having fun. With most of the wind gone we have rain now. I am really surprised (again) that still got electricity, water.

Alpha141
7th September 2017, 09:44
Hi everyone,

Here is a vid (first of 3 or more) on the greater purpose of these types of events. They are Earth working to our benefit on a macro level:

m0tYe6XnRZQ

Plus the secornd in the series about historical events:

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Enjoy

pyrangello
7th September 2017, 12:21
Well I'll be calling my parents near Orlando, florida this morning, prompt them to get out for at least a few days, I'm thinking minimum issues will be power in florida central and then it goes up from there. Southern florida needs much prayers right now, none of this looks good at all.

Hervé
7th September 2017, 12:26
...




http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT11/refresh/AL112017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/120029_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/grap...?cone#contents (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/234935.shtml?cone#contents)

TargeT
7th September 2017, 12:33
I've been out of power since Tuesday night, a few trees down and some yard clean up is in my future but ST Croix didn't get the bad end of this stick. St Thomas got hit a lot harder than we did:

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No guns were seized or anything like that, that was just "boiler plate" language for a declaration of emergency.

Now I have to take off all that stupid plywood from every window... uhgg, I need to set this up so it's not as much work for next time... haha


Luckily the next tropical storm (potential hurricane) looks like it won't come anywhere near us.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT12/refresh/AL122017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/085330_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png

So maybe just more rain on sunday

Foxie Loxie
7th September 2017, 12:36
So good to know your family is o.k., Dear Friend! Many thanks for letting us know! :bearhug:

pyrangello
7th September 2017, 13:07
This is a bit off topic but it does relate to these hurricanes, if your interested, take the time to listen to stan, I'm not a big bible thumper but I do believe. You can make your own decision from there.

Starting at hour 2 of the interview 5 Sept 17 , stan deyo starts his interview, Always liked Stan, very level ground he stands on.

https://www.hagmannreport.com/show-archives/among-the-ruins-paul-l-williams-stan-deyo/

Now below this gets a little creepy, Guy from India makes his statements shown from our lord in 2013 of 3 hurricanes hitting US specifically Houston and then major earthquakes to follow.Big ones.


SEPT 1
Bro. Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj: 3 US Places Marked for Massive Earthquake Judgment That Will Come "Speedily", Prophecy Given in 2013 – HOLLY NOTE: His Indian accent is pretty heavy and it might be helpful to turn on closed captioning. The same exact vision was given to him on 3 consecutive days in 2013. Around 3:19, he mentions about California being torn in two, Los Angeles will be destroyed. At 6:30 he starts talking about the New Madrid faultline releasing a massive temblor. At 9:30 he shares that he was shown 3 places for mighty earthquake destruction – the last location wasn't identified. At 16:33 he shares Houston would be destroyed by a massive flood. He specifically states 2 reasons for these judgments. 1) SCOTUS passing same sex marriage law on June 26, 2015 and Obama championing it on TV it and then lighting the White House in gay colors that night and 2) America dividing Israel. He saw a map of the United States and the angel with a long sword stabbed the center of the map saying, “You split my land, now I will split yours!” As to the timing of these massive pending earthquakes, look for punishment to descend 'speedily' when the nation of Israel is divided. Look at the news items under 'Israel' for progress on its 2-state solution.
Related: 7 Prophetic Voices See America Split at the New Madrid Fault When Israel’s Land Is Divided
Max Lucado on Hurricane Harvey: Catastrophes Must Happen Before Jesus Returns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6uiVeFyw0

Hervé
7th September 2017, 14:58
Saker message: I have to evacuate, signing off for a while (http://thesaker.is/saker-message-i-have-to-evacuate-signing-off-for-a-while/)

September 06, 2017 18 Comments (http://thesaker.is/saker-message-i-have-to-evacuate-signing-off-for-a-while/#comments)


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Dear friends,

Hurricane Irma looks very, very powerful and the resulting hysteria in Florida is outright toxic (there are fistfights at gas stations). A friend offered to host us in Virgina and we have decided to accept that invitation. So we are going to hit the road at 0500 tomorrow.

I will try my best to remain in contact and maybe even post a little something once I get to southern Virginia, but no promises. Frankly, I am already exhausted even before hitting the road.

You are all wonderful friends and I want to thank you all for your kindness and concern. God willing, we will be perfectly fine. My biggest fear is for our house, a rather weak structure in a flood zone, but it survived 5 hurricanes in the past and it will probably survive this one too. I just pray for a weak storm surge…

I will try to keep you posted, possibly in the Café.

Herb and Scott will keep the blog up in my absence.

Hugs and cheers to all, see y’all later :-)

The Saker

TargeT
7th September 2017, 15:08
Irma certainly doesn't seem like she's done making a mess, and it looks like she's headed strait to FL.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT11/refresh/AL112017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/085330_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png

https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11

http://weathercarib.com/


I would just leave Florida if its possible,, secure everything you can and leave; this storm had gusts of up to 220mph when it passed NEAR our islands, if it would have crossed over it would have been so much worse.

norman
7th September 2017, 15:17
TargeT, keep your eye on that other one following it up. It's smaller but a direct hit would be nasty, and it seems to be heading slighly south of Irma's path .


https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-61.09,19.02,1821

Noelle
7th September 2017, 16:24
The three storms remind me of the Orion's Belt stars.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCUJ58x6UcharVVO03SRMWNfTD2EwVGYA6rkrUDNcn6B65qsjX

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/xgtwo/two_atl_0d0.png?071451

Wind
7th September 2017, 17:14
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TargeT
7th September 2017, 18:00
The three storms remind me of the Orion's Belt stars.


Similar to 7 years ago:
https://i.imgur.com/vc5nzWS.jpg

Bob
7th September 2017, 18:01
TargeT, how did your horses fare?

Eric J (Viking)
7th September 2017, 18:10
Well the images I've seen are beyond catastrophic... News in UK is non stop... For sure 'these times' we are in...

Mods, sorry to say but the title looks as though needs extending with 'Jose' in the equation... I had a bad feeling about this... Sit tight.

Great to hear your well Target... My prayers to the ones without home's.... Ect...

Viking

Mike
7th September 2017, 18:31
Glad to hear youre alright Target. Madeira, keep hanging in there. Im hoping with everything i have that youll be okay.

I'm in central Florida. The thought of heading north and maybe hooking a left into Alabama has crossed my mind. But getting gas is already a challenge. It's hit or miss wherever you go, and it's only going to get worse(a friend of mine in Georgia told me that there are closed gas stations as far north as where he's at). I'm not sure how far I'd get, particularly if its bumper to bumper traffic. I could wind up stranded on the side of the road and even more vulnerable than where i'm at now. As of right now, I've got plenty of food n water, and the plan is to ride it out and hope for the best. Wish me luck guys

TargeT
7th September 2017, 18:34
TargeT, how did your horses fare?

we put them all out in a big pasture that has no trees, some are a bit muddy but none are limping or look injured in anyway.. last time I checked they were just eating grass being horses.

Noelle
7th September 2017, 18:56
Glad to hear youre alright Target. Madeira, keep hanging in there. Im hoping with everything i have that youll be okay.

I'm in central Florida. The thought of heading north and maybe hooking a left into Alabama has crossed my mind. But getting gas is already a challenge. It's hit or miss wherever you go, and it's only going to get worse(a friend of mine in Georgia told me that there are closed gas stations as far north as where he's at). I'm not sure how far I'd get, particularly if its bumper to bumper traffic. I could wind up stranded on the side of the road and even more vulnerable than where i'm at now. As of right now, I've got plenty of food n water, and the plan is to ride it out and hope for the best. Wish me luck guys

We're staying put too, Mike. What part of Central Florida are you in, east or west? We're a few miles north of Cape Canaveral.

Foxie Loxie
7th September 2017, 20:05
Mike & LadyM....you both will be in our thoughts & prayers! Keep us updated! :bearhug:

Wind...Thanks for the excellent video!

Noelle
7th September 2017, 20:45
Mike & LadyM....you both will be in our thoughts & prayers! Keep us updated! :bearhug:

Wind...Thanks for the excellent video!

Thanks, Foxie Loxie. Though prepared as we'll ever be, still mentally trying to push the storm further east.

norman
7th September 2017, 21:27
Compared to this time yesterday, Irma looks bigger and Jose looks smaller.

Mike
7th September 2017, 21:43
Glad to hear youre alright Target. Madeira, keep hanging in there. Im hoping with everything i have that youll be okay.

I'm in central Florida. The thought of heading north and maybe hooking a left into Alabama has crossed my mind. But getting gas is already a challenge. It's hit or miss wherever you go, and it's only going to get worse(a friend of mine in Georgia told me that there are closed gas stations as far north as where he's at). I'm not sure how far I'd get, particularly if its bumper to bumper traffic. I could wind up stranded on the side of the road and even more vulnerable than where i'm at now. As of right now, I've got plenty of food n water, and the plan is to ride it out and hope for the best. Wish me luck guys

We're staying put too, Mike. What part of Central Florida are you in, east or west? We're a few miles north of Cape Canaveral.

Hi LadyM:)

I think I'm an hour or so west from you. I'm in Lake Mary.

Most people I've talked to are doing same, unless at some time it's suggested we evacuate.

I've only been here 6 months or so. I came down from N.Y. I'm not sure what the normal course of action is in these scenarios.

I lived in St Pete Beach in my early 20's. At one point we were ordered to evacuate the island (or maybe it was just strongly suggested, I can't quite recall). I'm always the last one to find out about this stuff. By the time I realized the gravity of the situation there, the roads were jammed with traffic. So I decided to stay. It wasn't bravery, it was apathy. I got a case of beer and waited it out on my couch. There was only a mild storm, nothing disastrous. Afterwards I walked out onto the beach and joined 2 old scraggly looking fishermen who were smoking a joint. Not much was said. We just stood there, looking out at the sea...me with my beer, and them with their joint. It felt like we were the last 3 people on earth. Such an odd feeling i cant quite describe.

Noelle
7th September 2017, 22:31
Glad to hear youre alright Target. Madeira, keep hanging in there. Im hoping with everything i have that youll be okay.

I'm in central Florida. The thought of heading north and maybe hooking a left into Alabama has crossed my mind. But getting gas is already a challenge. It's hit or miss wherever you go, and it's only going to get worse(a friend of mine in Georgia told me that there are closed gas stations as far north as where he's at). I'm not sure how far I'd get, particularly if its bumper to bumper traffic. I could wind up stranded on the side of the road and even more vulnerable than where i'm at now. As of right now, I've got plenty of food n water, and the plan is to ride it out and hope for the best. Wish me luck guys

We're staying put too, Mike. What part of Central Florida are you in, east or west? We're a few miles north of Cape Canaveral.

Hi LadyM:)

I think I'm an hour or so west from you. I'm in Lake Mary.

Most people I've talked to are doing same, unless at some time it's suggested we evacuate.

I've only been here 6 months or so. I came down from N.Y. I'm not sure what the normal course of action is in these scenarios.

I lived in St Pete Beach in my early 20's. At one point we were ordered to evacuate the island (or maybe it was just strongly suggested, I can't quite recall). I'm always the last one to find out about this stuff. By the time I realized the gravity of the situation there, the roads were jammed with traffic. So I decided to stay. It wasn't bravery, it was apathy. I got a case of beer and waited it out on my couch. There was only a mild storm, nothing disastrous. Afterwards I walked out onto the beach and joined 2 old scraggly looking fishermen who were smoking a joint. Not much was said. We just stood there, looking out at the sea...me with my beer, and them with their joint. It felt like we were the last 3 people on earth. Such an odd feeling i cant quite describe.

Great story. Maybe the energy and pressure of these systems have a spiritual effect. Or it could have just been the relief of being spared.

The only storm we evacuated for was Floyd, a Cat 5. Yes, the evacuation routes are always jammed and it takes hours to get somewhere. I remember with Andrew how people decided to ride out the storm, and even had hurricane parties. They were very sorry they did that, those that survived, I mean. But that area is definitely more prone to the worst than where you are. You should be ok.

Carmody
7th September 2017, 22:54
Afterwards I walked out onto the beach and joined 2 old scraggly looking fishermen who were smoking a joint. Not much was said. We just stood there, looking out at the sea...me with my beer, and them with their joint. It felt like we were the last 3 people on earth. Such an odd feeling i cant quite describe.

The weirdness is the silence. The utter complete silence. Even the subsonic rumble is missing, the omnipresent subsonic rumble...is gone. The silence of the open field or deep woods, far from anyone or any motion of any kind. Just the wind..and a great big utterly silent city. Silence and cities are complete strangers to one another.


https://youtu.be/IE6ypamkYGk?t=7m50s

RunningDeer
7th September 2017, 22:54
Mike & LadyM....you both will be in our thoughts & prayers! Keep us updated! :bearhug:

Wind...Thanks for the excellent video!

Thanks, Foxie Loxie. Though prepared as we'll ever be, still mentally trying to push the storm further east.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/come-in-hug.gif

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Fantasy_Fun/fan-Florida.gif

Foxie Loxie
7th September 2017, 23:08
You are TOO funny, Paula!! Such amazing things you do with the computer! :ROFL:

Mike
7th September 2017, 23:41
You are TOO funny, Paula!! Such amazing things you do with the computer! :ROFL:

LOL I second that. Great visual Paula!:happythumbsup:

Mike
7th September 2017, 23:51
Afterwards I walked out onto the beach and joined 2 old scraggly looking fishermen who were smoking a joint. Not much was said. We just stood there, looking out at the sea...me with my beer, and them with their joint. It felt like we were the last 3 people on earth. Such an odd feeling i cant quite describe.

The weirdness is the silence. The utter complete silence. Even the subsonic rumble is missing, the omnipresent subsonic rumble...is gone. The silence of the open field or deep woods, far from anyone or any motion of any kind. Just the wind..and a great big utterly silent city. Silence and cities are complete strangers to one another.


https://youtu.be/IE6ypamkYGk?t=7m50s



Yep, well said. It was like we were occupying the silence within the silence, if that makes any sense.

I half expected God to open up an invisible door to join us. It quite literally felt like another dimension.

Noelle
8th September 2017, 00:09
Mike & LadyM....you both will be in our thoughts & prayers! Keep us updated! :bearhug:

Wind...Thanks for the excellent video!

Thanks, Foxie Loxie. Though prepared as we'll ever be, still mentally trying to push the storm further east.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/come-in-hug.gif

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Fantasy_Fun/fan-Florida.gif

Good visualization tool. Thank you.

Fellow Aspirant
8th September 2017, 00:17
I lived in St Pete Beach in my early 20's. At one point we were ordered to evacuate the island (or maybe it was just strongly suggested, I can't quite recall). I'm always the last one to find out about this stuff. By the time I realized the gravity of the situation there, the roads were jammed with traffic. So I decided to stay. It wasn't bravery, it was apathy. I got a case of beer and waited it out on my couch. There was only a mild storm, nothing disastrous. Afterwards I walked out onto the beach and joined 2 old scraggly looking fishermen who were smoking a joint. Not much was said. We just stood there, looking out at the sea...me with my beer, and them with their joint. It felt like we were the last 3 people on earth. Such an odd feeling i cant quite describe.

By the looks of your avatar, I'd say that you've only changed your disaster response views by one moon orbit. A good place to be.
Unfortunately for those Floridians who are still within the state, this is storm is shaping up to be a monstrous killer.

Be safe, my Florida friends!

B.

uzn
8th September 2017, 19:14
latest estimation
http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_hurr_images/2017/aI/uhaI_2_640x480.gif

Foxie Loxie
8th September 2017, 19:47
I have friends in the Orlando area who are going to "ride it out".....we'll see! :facepalm:

TargeT
8th September 2017, 20:32
It dropping to a Cat 1 will be very helpful, but hitting as a cat 4 is still pretty bad.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT11/refresh/AL112017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/085330_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png

https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_11

It's trending a bit more west than before... looks like a direct hit.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/11L/imagery/vis_lalo-animated.gif

Hazelfern
8th September 2017, 21:24
Hi everyone,

Here is a vid (first of 3 or more) on the greater purpose of these types of events.

m0tYe6XnRZQ

Enjoy

This podcast makes perfect sense; ‘karmic resolution’ I think that’s the nutshell of it. I just wanted to give it a bump to see if anyone here has listened and has more to share. Thank you!

Noelle
8th September 2017, 23:04
A hurricane or other natural disaster resolves a karmic debt incurred by our ancient ancestors -- it does not sound fair to me. Consciousness having an effect on the weather, now that's something that I can consider.

Callista
9th September 2017, 00:57
I agree with Bartzis on some things, but I stopped watching when he brought in the karma reasoning for all this. Weather warfare is being played out to weaponise natural events and at some point we have to look at the truth of it.

Noelle
9th September 2017, 03:46
The three storms remind me of the Orion's Belt stars.


Similar to 7 years ago:
https://i.imgur.com/vc5nzWS.jpg

K I J named storms in both, in the same order. A synchronicity?

Eric J (Viking)
9th September 2017, 06:01
Looks like Jose is already a cat 4!

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/hurricane-jose?__prclt=0Q335p9r

Viking

RunningDeer
9th September 2017, 08:24
K I J named storms in both, in the same order. A synchronicity?
Every year they start with "A".

For example:
2017 Tropical Storm Names & 2017 Hurricane Names (http://www.hurricane.com/2017-hurricane-names.php)
Arlene, Bret, Cindy, Don, Emily, Franklin, Gert, Harvey, Irma, Jose, Katia, Lee, Maria, Nate, Ophelia, Philippe, Rina, Sean, Tammy, Vince, Whitney


*****

HOW ARE HURRICANES NAMED? (https://www.almanac.com/content/list-names-2017-hurricane-season)

• Native Americans called these storms Hurakons, after “a great spirit who commanded the east wind.” Spanish explorers adopted the word and then began giving hurricanes the names of patron saints on whose feast days the storms occurred. Later, hurricanes were identified by their longitude and latitude.
• A weatherman in Australia is credited with being the first person to name a tropical storm after a female. By World War II, meteorologists in the U.S. military named storms after their girlfriends and wives. The first storm in the Atlantic Ocean named for a man was Hurricane Bob!
• Hurricanes’ names are selected by the World Meteorological Organization. Every six years, the list of names begins again! However, the names of especially destructive hurricanes are usually retired. See the “retired” tropical storm and hurricane names (https://www.almanac.com/content/retired-atlantic-hurricane-storm-names).


*****

The World Meteorological Organization, which is in charge of assigning names to hurricanes and tropical storms, has six lists that they cycle through. (In other words, you'll see 2014's list again in 2020.) They've been using this system since 1953.

The WMO looks for short, distinctive names when choosing new ones for their lists. A new one must be chosen if a name is "retired" -- that is, if a storm is so destructive or deadly that it would be insensitive to continue to use the name.

"A" names
Arlene (2017)
Alberto (2018)
Andrea (2019)
Arthur (2020)
Ana (2021)
Alex (2022)

"B" names
Bret (2017)
Beryl (2018)
Barry (2019)
Bertha (2020)
Bill (2021)
Bonnie(2022)

"C" names
Cindy (2017)
Chris (2018)
Chantal (2019)
Cristobal (2020)
Claudette (2021)
Colin (2022)

"D" names
Don (2017)
Debby (2018)
Dorian (2019)
Dolly (2020)
Danny (2021)
Danielle(2022)

"E" names
Emily (2017)
Ernesto (2018)
Erin (2019)
Edouard (2020)
Elsa (2021)
Earl(2022)


[complete article and list of names (http://6abc.com/weather/see-if-your-name-is-going-to-be-used-for-a-tropical-storm-this-year/702699/)]

KiwiElf
9th September 2017, 08:50
Check out Ventusky's computer Weather modelling for the 19th September; Hurricane Jose growing to almost TWICE the size of Irma, and another Hurricane forming off the West Mexican Coast, below Los Angeles... (handy tool - quite accurate given how quickly weather modelling can now change every few hours - use the calendar tool in the bottom left corner of the page...)

https://www.ventusky.com/

KiwiElf
9th September 2017, 08:53
Looks like Jose is already a cat 4!

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/hurricane-jose?__prclt=0Q335p9r

Viking

Predictably Jose will become a Category 5 within 24-hours (perhaps "they" need to add a "Category 6" - which is what Irma should be - Irma is 5 x the size and power of Andrew ...)

transiten
9th September 2017, 10:18
Just a thought from radio today; there has been hughe floods in India which just make small advertisments in meda, goes for Sweden too; we're all focused ont the US and now also there is a big military training "Aurora" going on in Sweden with several NATO countries and we are not allied to NATO which give rise to big protests over here.

norman
9th September 2017, 12:57
I see on the wind map today that there are big changes to the general scene.

Jose has taken a turn northwards and looks like it will not be going anywhere near TargeT.

Irma has shifted south right onto Cuba which is a sudden direction change, I think.

The other one that was building near the Mexican Coast has vanished completely, GONE !

Hervé
9th September 2017, 13:22
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT11/refresh/AL112017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/120029_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/grap...?cone#contents (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/234935.shtml?cone#contents)


(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/234935.shtml?cone#contents)
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/11L/imagery/vis_lalo-animated.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/234935.shtml?cone#contents)

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/vs/7.jpg
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/234935.shtml?cone#contents)http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huvsloop.html



http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT12/refresh/AL122017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/115856_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png

Event 1: Infrared Loop (Jose)
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/12L/imagery/vis_lalo-animated.gif
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/12L/imagery/vis_lalo-animated.gif

Note: Imagery and loops on this site are intended for informational purposes only, they are not considered "operational". This web site should not be used to support operational observation, forecasting, emergency, or disaster mitigation operations, either public or private. In addition, we do not provide weather forecasts on this site — that is the mission of the National Weather Service (http://www.weather.gov/). Please contact them (http://www.weather.gov/Contact) for any forecast questions or issues.



http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/xgtwo/two_atl_0d0.png?091202
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

Hervé
9th September 2017, 14:53
Resonance? (http://www.intuitor.com/resonance/tesla.php):

Hurricane Irma already being picked up by seismographs — instruments that detect earthquakes (http://www.zmescience.com/science/hurricane-irma-seismographs-06092017/)


https://i0.wp.com/www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DI9fykEWsAAq8gB.jpg?resize=800%2C642


https://www.sott.net/image/s20/418448/full/3_hurricanes_quake.jpg



Dr. Brooks Agnew's artifically induced earthquakes via ELF:



foLDKQ00XJc

TargeT
9th September 2017, 18:59
Looks like Jose is already a cat 4!

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/hurricane-jose?__prclt=0Q335p9r

Viking

Predictably Jose will become a Category 5 within 24-hours (perhaps "they" need to add a "Category 6" - which is what Irma should be - Irma is 5 x the size and power of Andrew ...)

its headed north into the ocean, jose won't bother anyone

alexius
9th September 2017, 19:45
Not long ago this twitter account uploaded a video from Long Island, Bahamas where the ocean water is missing. It appears to be pushed towards Florida.

https://twitter.com/Kaydi_K/status/906579283950403585

Star Tsar
9th September 2017, 19:46
Latest from Mr Wigington...


Geoengineering Watch

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/logo2.png

Global Alert News

Published 9th September 2017

Though countless forms of anthropogenic damage to the climate system have all taken their toll, now the full fury of weather warfare is being released on the US population. Paradigm disintegration is not coming, it is here, and will continue to unfold. So many will only choose to wake up when there is no other option, such is the nature of humanity. Weather cataclysm is unfolding all over the world, this is just the beginning. Could the power structure also be waging biological warfare in the flooded aftermath of countless extreme weather events? How much of the power structure’s agenda is yet unknown? How dire is the equation we collectively face?
Ever more blatant and desperate actions of the power structure are increasing their vulnerability to disintegration from within. If we all pull together in the critical effort to pull back the curtain, we can accelerate this process. This effort must be borne by us all..

Supporting Link: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-watch-global-alert-news-september-9-2017/

o-7ddMSBei0

alexius
9th September 2017, 19:58
A couple of live video streams to watch for those interested:

Southern most point, Key West.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ld45pUueQ&feature=youtu.be

Southern most beach resort, Key West.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHjVJt8MARA&feature=youtu.be

Unknown location, Key West

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECW4j-HWc3Y

Unknown location, Key West

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGD1byu7gJc

Downtown Miami, viewing East

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMz1iUDeBHs

Downtown Miami, viewing South

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNOnN-vTfXA

It's really starting to get rough out there.

(Edit: Added a couple more.)

Hervé
9th September 2017, 21:34
Hurricane Irma hits Florida coast Live updates (https://www.rt.com/usa/402389-us-irma-hurricane-updates/)

RT
Published time: 7 Sep, 2017 21:49
Edited time: 9 Sep, 2017 20:52
Get short URL (https://on.rt.com/8mhh)


https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.09/original/59b3f992fc7e93b9038b4567.jpg

The skyline is seen as the outerbands of Hurricane Irma start to reach Florida on September 9, 2017 in Miami, Florida. © Joe Raedle / Getty Images / AFP


Hurricane Irma, downgraded to category 3, has approached the Florida coast, bringing high winds and heavy rains. Irma having already caused death and widespread destruction in the Caribbean, more than a quarter of Florida’s population has been ordered to evacuate.

09 September 2017 21:00 GMT
As well as the southern coast of Florida, Hurricane Irma is also battering the north coast of Cuba, where the town of Caibarien has experienced severe flooding.

Daozen
9th September 2017, 23:56
tried to post this on another forum, it got banned. PLz excuse typos:

Anti-Hurricane Meditation

Only got 2 minutes to write this:

Breath deeply.

Remember we have control over our reality.

We carry the universe inside of ourselves. The Hindu + Buddhist texts remind us.

Look within. Focus on all storms.

Visualize the hurricane dissolving, dissipating.

Flood the body with a feeling of love for all humans.

Imagine the headlines "Irma disperses, little damage."

"Irma moves away from Florida.."

"Last minute miracle saves Florida."

Charge these headlines with a feeling of calm power.

Remember we have control in this reality. Deny consent.

Ask help from all the nations of the Earth, the hidden kingdoms, the angels, the entire universe.

That's what I'll be doing.

If two of us do it, so much the better.

KiwiElf
10th September 2017, 00:27
Looks like Jose is already a cat 4!

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/hurricane-jose?__prclt=0Q335p9r

Viking

Predictably Jose will become a Category 5 within 24-hours (perhaps "they" need to add a "Category 6" - which is what Irma should be - Irma is 5 x the size and power of Andrew ...)

its headed north into the ocean, jose won't bother anyone

I really hope you're right TargeT; (because the Ventusky computer projections indeed show Jose going North - straight into New York - sure don't look too good for New York on the 19-20th atm) ;) - I'd recommend everyone with an interest update the imagery daily & pray this one fizzles... if it continues like this, it will make Irma look like a tiddler... :raining:

EDIT: Also note the two forming off the West Coast of Mexico...

36152

KiwiElf
10th September 2017, 01:24
Michio Kaku "hints" that hurricanes have been the result of a government weather modification program.


World renowned physicist Dr. Michio Kaku made a shocking confession on live TV when he admitted that HAARP is responsible for the recent spate of hurricanes. - see note at end of this post - KE

In an interview aired by CBS, Dr. Kaku admitted that recent ‘made-made’ hurricanes have been the result of a government weather modification program in which the skies were sprayed with nano particles and storms then “activated” through the use of “lasers”. In the interview (below), Michio Kaku discusses the history of weather modification, before the CBS crew stop him in his tracks.

Full article at link:
http://www.earth-heal.com/videos/viewvideo/8552/top-scientist-tells-cbs-haarp-responsible-for-recent-hurricanes-what-is-cloud-seeding.html


viMH3K2xmpI
Published on Sep 9, 2017

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NOTE: Dr. Michio Kaku doesn't directly mention HAARP or make the somewhat sensationalist claim of the original article headline/video - KE

c0di
10th September 2017, 01:40
https://i.imgur.com/fFpadCX.png
https://i.imgur.com/fFpadCX.png


that's 100% artificial plasma/laser technology. hurricanes don't have this activity...

i have been watching and they tried to steer it towards miami but it didn't follow. they're trying to reel it back towards florida...

the beings behind this gross me out.

Hervé
10th September 2017, 02:21
US forecast models have been pretty terrible during Hurricane Irma (https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/us-forecast-models-have-been-pretty-terrible-during-hurricane-irma/)

NOAA's best weather model seems to be getting worse with hurricanes, not better.

Eric Berger (https://arstechnica.com/author/ericberger/) - 9/8/2017, 10:34 PM


https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ecmwf_uv10g_miami_10-800x600.png
Weather Bell Enlarge (https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ecmwf_uv10g_miami_10.png)


We have written a fair amount at Ars recently about the superiority (https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/heres-what-the-worlds-most-accurate-weather-model-predicts-for-irma/) of the European forecast model [ECMWF: European global model], suggesting to readers that they focus on the ensemble runs of this system to get a good handle on track forecasts for Hurricane Irma. Then we checked out some of the preliminary data on model performance during this major hurricane, and it was truly eye-opening.

Brian Tang, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Albany, tabulates data (http://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/tang/tcguidance/al112017/) on "mean absolute error" for the location of a storm's center at a given time and where it was forecast to be at that time. Hurricane Irma has been a thing for about a week now, so we have started to get a decent sample size—at least 10 model runs—to assess performance.

The model data
The chart below is extremely busy, but when you understand how to read it, the data is striking. It shows the average position error (in kilometers) at forecast lead times of 12, 24, 48, 72, 96, and 120 hours (so, out to five days). It compares several different classes of models, including global models that forecast conditions around the planet, nested models focused on hurricanes, and consensus forecasts.

Specifically, the models are referenced as follows:
AVNO: US Global Forecast System, or GFS. The premiere US global model

CMC: Canadian global model

UKM: UK Met Office global model

ECMWF: European global model

NGX: US Navy global model

HMON: New, experiment US hurricane model

HWRF: Operational US hurricane model

TVCN: Consensus model, essentially an average of the global models

OFCL: Official National Hurricane Center forecast


https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/mae.png
Brian Tang: Mean absolute errors for the position of Hurricane Irma.


Forecast models typically show their skill with three-, four-, and five-day forecasts. For simplicity's sake, we will focus on 120-hour forecasts. At this lead time, the average error of the European model with respect to Irma has been about 175km in its position forecast. The next best forecast is from the hurricane center, which is slightly more than 300km. An automated model, then, has so far beaten human forecasters at the National Hurricane Center (looking at all of this model data) by a wide margin. That's pretty astounding.

What is particularly embarrassing for NOAA, however, is the comparison between the European model and the various US forecast modeling efforts. The average 120-hour error of the GFS model is about 475km. The operational, hurricane-specific model, HWRF, does better, with an average error of 325km. But the experimental HMON model does terribly, at nearly 550km of error. A similar disparity in quality goes all the way down to 24-hour forecasts.

Another method of determining track accuracy is by looking at trend maps, which show a time series of tracks. In the gallery below, you can gauge the consistency of forecast models and their accuracy based upon the actual track of the storm.


https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/tr4euro.png


These trend maps in recent track forecasts show which models have made consistent forecasts, and which have varied significantly. You can also track accuracy by looking at the actual position (X) taken by the storm.
This is the European model.

Why the US lags
So what's the deal here? The overall performance of the National Weather Service's GFS model has lagged for years behind the European forecast system, which is backed up (https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/03/the-european-forecast-model-already-kicking-americas-butt-just-improved/) by superior resources and computing power. Finally, this year, the GFS was upgraded. However, even before those upgrades went into effect, hurricane forecasters were raising concerns about the new GFS.

Shortly before the beginning of the 2017 Atlantic hurricane season, in fact, forecasters at the National Hurricane Center in Miami pushed back against the upgrade. They had noted degraded performance during internal tests of the GFS model on Atlantic tropical cyclones. The track forecasts were about 10 percent worse with the newer version of the model than the older one.

In a presentation posted on the National Weather Service website, first reported (http://mashable.com/2017/03/10/hurricane-forecasts-suffer-gfs-model-upgrade/) by Mashable, the hurricane center officials said, "The loss of short- to medium-range [tropical cyclone] track and intensity forecast skill for the Atlantic basin in the proposed 2017 GFS is unacceptable to the National Hurricane Center." Ultimately, the upgrade was initiated anyway.

An independent expert on global forecast models, Ryan Maue, said the NOAA office responsible for developing US computer models, the National Centers For Environmental Prediction, is understaffed and has less funding than the European forecasting center, which is based in the United Kingdom. America, he said, is getting what it pays for.

"NOAA and the National Weather Service are stretched a mile and an inch deep in some places for all of the responsibilities that they have," said Maue, a research meteorologist at the Cato Institute. "If we want to focus on having the best weather forecast in the world, we should focus on having the best weather forecast."

---------------------------------------------



Eric Berger (https://arstechnica.com/author/ericberger) is the senior space editor at Ars Technica, covering everything from astronomy to private space to wonky NASA policy. A certified meteorologist, Eric lives in Houston.

-------------------------------------------

Related:
At times during Harvey, the European model outperformed humans (https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/at-times-during-harvey-the-european-model-outperformed-humans/)
The European forecast model already kicking America’s butt just improved (https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/03/the-european-forecast-model-already-kicking-americas-butt-just-improved/)

KiwiElf
10th September 2017, 03:14
https://i.imgur.com/fFpadCX.png
https://i.imgur.com/fFpadCX.png


that's 100% artificial plasma/laser technology. hurricanes don't have this activity...

i have been watching and they tried to steer it towards miami but it didn't follow. they're trying to reel it back towards florida...

the beings behind this gross me out.

Interesting,... by all accounts, Irma should have continued into the Gulf of Mexico, or gone up the East Coast of Florida -and it gets stranger...

(there are also some possibly related claims of increased UFO sightings (mostly triangles) coming out of MacDill AFB in Tampa, Florida - shades of Close Encounters of the Third Kind? ie the govt covering up a UFO landing by creating a false flag to get everyone out of the area... hmmmm

http://exopolitics.org/more-triangle-ufo-sightings-macdill-afb-evacuated-irma/

findingneo
10th September 2017, 05:30
Scroll down to the "Forever Flourish" tall beach video. It shows how the sea water is missing around the Bahamas. It is going to come back, quite possibly with a vengeance I imagine. Get away from the coasts folks, do you not remember how the water receded in that big Tsunami in the Phillipines before it came back? There will be a massive bulge in the sea water somewhere. I would not be surprised if all this has something to do with the recent eclipse. Just get out of the way and let it take it's course, and get away from those empty beaches!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/09/hurricane-irma-florida-evacuate-landfall-cuba-live-latest

KiwiElf
10th September 2017, 07:34
Don't know what to make of these guys (IMC), but at 3:38 - 5:14 (didn't pay much attention to the rest of it) the video clearly animates (using Ventusky) what I said about Jose in my earlier post, and what could possibly happen (latest modelling shows it even larger & impacting the East coast just below New York on approx 19-20 Sept)

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Hervé
10th September 2017, 14:21
Not long ago this twitter account uploaded a video from Long Island, Bahamas where the ocean water is missing. It appears to be pushed towards Florida.

https://twitter.com/Kaydi_K/status/906579283950403585
Bahamians terrified as Hurricane Irma ‘sucks away’ miles of ocean (VIDEOS) (https://www.rt.com/news/402663-bahamas-ocean-disappears-irma/)

RT
Published time: 10 Sep, 2017 05:12
Edited time: 10 Sep, 2017 10:02
Get short URL (https://on.rt.com/8mp3)


https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.09/original/59b4c915fc7e93cb0b8b4567.jpg

Boat strewn on the shore of Inagua in the southern Bahamas, September 8, 2017 © The Royal Bahamas Police Force and the Royal Bahamas Defense Force / AFP


Footage from the Irma-hit Bahamas freaked out social media users on Saturday as it emerged that seawater was missing from a bay as far as the eye could see. The scene turned out to be a rare natural occurrence tied to the outgoing hurricane.

“I am in disbelief right now... This is Long Island, Bahamas and the ocean water is missing!!! That’s as far as they see,” @Kaydi_K wrote on Twitter.

“Sea gone dry,” another witness called Adrian‏ tweeted.

The eerie scene was shared over 50,000 times in one day and it spooked web users, many of whom suggested it resembled the sucking away of water before a tsunami.

Some found that hard to believe, reckoning instead that it might have been a routinely-occurring low tide in the bay.

However, weather experts analyzing the scene put the blame on Hurricane Irma, which had just left a trail of destruction in the Caribbean and was about to land in Florida.

The ominous-looking occurrence was in fact caused by a combination of low tide, low pressure and strong winds in the right direction, which literally pushed the water away from the long narrow bay. The phenomenon has been dubbed “reverse storm surge” by some of those explaining it online.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/495078741270224896/h4qoVRWY_bigger.jpeg Brad Panovich‏Verified account @wxbrad (https://twitter.com/wxbrad)

I know it seems weird but strong winds & low tide can pull water out of bays and inlets in hurricanes. Like Reverse storm surge. #Irma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Irma?src=hash)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJVQpkRXUAAYQaa.jpg

8:22 PM - 9 Sep 2017
13 replies 111 retweets 189 likes Luckily for the locals, the water did not come gushing in all at once, with Adrian later tweeting that the sea “came back.”




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/906772110760177666/AfcQVeVH_bigger.jpg Adrian‏ @deejayeasya (https://twitter.com/deejayeasya) Sep 8 (https://twitter.com/deejayeasya/status/906327303646580736)

Sea gone dry https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f636.png #HurricaneIrma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HurricaneIrma?src=hash) #Bahamas (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bahamas?src=hash) @weatherchannel (https://twitter.com/weatherchannel)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJPrlqhUEAAWPxZ.jpg

146 replies 5,146 retweets 12,042 likes

Replying to @Lizardchips (https://twitter.com/Lizardchips) @steenfox (https://twitter.com/steenfox) @weatherchannel (https://twitter.com/weatherchannel)
It came back https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f60a.png


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJS9O2vVoAARzkJ.jpg
9:38 AM - 9 Sep 2017
30 replies 404 retweets 611 likes

Cidersomerset
10th September 2017, 18:27
I don't know if this is purely a natural event or enhanced but this item
was interesting and one you could show your doubting friends....

I know we know what he is saying.....


Lionel is a media analyst and is a regular on RT America and other outlets.
He points out how geo engineering is hidden in plain site and the majority
of the public is not 'able' to except it until it is reported by mainstream news
and is relegated to the 'conspiracy' section of the brain. Well played CIA 's
conspiracy cover up after JFK and kept going in the mainstream to date....


Weather Warfare, Hurricane Manipulation and the Weaponization of Global Geoengineering

8ck31pREEyE

Published on 10 Sep 2017
The Pentagon has just dispatched C-130H Sprayers from the Air Force Reserve’s 910th Airlift
Wing residing in Youngstown, Ohio to Texas in response to Hurricane Harvey, reports ZeroHedge.

The aircraft are outfitted with spraying equipment tasked with ‘minimizing the impact of the brutal
storm’s aftermath’.According to the article, the specially outfitted C-130Hs can spray wide areas
with various chemicals for ‘multiple applications, including dispersing oil spills, destroying invasive
vegetation, and controlling insect populations'.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09...

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/an...

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/hu...

====================================================
====================================================

Will the Sun's big blast affect Earth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfJ-izNVFZs
Published on 8 Sep 2017
The sun has unleashed its largest flare in over a decade and its effects are being
felt on Earth. So far, the solar event has triggered radio blackouts—and this
weekend, we might get to see a beautiful display in the sky. RT’s Brigida Santos
shares some stunning images from NASA in her latest report.
Find RT America in your area: http://rt.com/where-to-watch/

Noelle
10th September 2017, 19:33
First big bands hitting us now. Experiencing tons of rain, some high winds, and tornado warnings. The worst of Irma should hit us tonight. Hope you're doing ok, Mike. We are in for a long night.

Mike
10th September 2017, 19:46
First big bands hitting us now. Experiencing tons of rain, some high winds, and tornado warnings. The worst of Irma should hit us tonight. Hope you're doing ok, Mike. We are in for a long night.


Hoping the best for you too! A long night indeed...:)

I hope Madeira is okay. She's gone quiet. Likely no power. Hope she checks in with us soon.

Carmody
10th September 2017, 19:54
https://www.windy.com/

Cidersomerset
10th September 2017, 19:57
Good luck to both of you Mike and Lady M and everyone else in the path of the
storm. May your God or whoever be with you............:Angel:


http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.26/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Hurricane Irma: Massive storm bears down on Florida
44 minutes ago
From the section US & Canada

Parts of the city of Miami are under water as Hurricane Irma heads for
mainland Florida, triggering storm surges across the south of the state.

Irma was downgraded to a category three storm at 1900 GMT, but it is
set to hit Florida's west coast with winds of up to 120mph (192km/h).

About 2ft (60cm) of water has been seen in Miami's financial district, where
one major street resembled a river. Earlier Irma struck the Florida Keys.

More than 1m homes are without power.

Some 6.3 million people in Florida were told to evacuate, with warnings of
a "life-threatening" storm surge.

read more...

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/3B00/production/_97740151_cf872ea0-7716-4a29-9f0f-430ffa49e8ad.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41219133

Live Reporting
By Flora Drury, Courtney Subramanian and David Molloy

at 12:48 .....Florida a flight-free zone

This image from Flight Radar vividly illustrates how Hurricane Irma has left the
skies above Florida a flight-free zone right now.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2017/9/10/e1ac63ca-9cf0-4d58-8189-70b00c35522c.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-latin-america-41177350

ABC..Hurricane Irma tracks toward Florida: Live updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvCoxtLB2WM

CBS..Hurricane Irma Coverage LIVE on CBSN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3htlb-rymM

alexius
10th September 2017, 20:43
Live stream from Naples as Irma is coming in.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/2TRywcaNHMV

Virma De Ris
10th September 2017, 23:41
First big bands hitting us now. Experiencing tons of rain, some high winds, and tornado warnings. The worst of Irma should hit us tonight. Hope you're doing ok, Mike. We are in for a long night.


Hoping the best for you too! A long night indeed...:)

I hope Madeira is okay. She's gone quiet. Likely no power. Hope she checks in with us soon.

Wing gusts, tornado warnings and even some hail. I hope you and LadyM are keeping yourselves safe.

Madeira is doing fine, far more better than we are doing at the moment. Many places in PR have gotten power and water back. My parents, my brother and my in-laws live in the island and are doing fine. They're all worried about us. The irony of it all.

Blessings to all!

Noelle
11th September 2017, 00:17
First big bands hitting us now. Experiencing tons of rain, some high winds, and tornado warnings. The worst of Irma should hit us tonight. Hope you're doing ok, Mike. We are in for a long night.


Hoping the best for you too! A long night indeed...:)

I hope Madeira is okay. She's gone quiet. Likely no power. Hope she checks in with us soon.

Wing gusts, tornado warnings and even some hail. I hope you and LadyM are keeping yourselves safe.

Madeira is doing fine, far more better than we are doing at the moment. Many places in PR have gotten power and water back. My parents, my brother and my in-laws live in the island and are doing fine. They're all worried about us. The irony of it all.

Blessings to all!

Thank you! Where are you located? My power keeps flickering on and off. There is a good chance that I may lose power soon.

Virma De Ris
11th September 2017, 00:54
Lake County. We still have power but it's been flickering on and off too. The wing gusts are impressive. Take care!

heretogrow
11th September 2017, 01:04
Sitting here in deep prayer for all of you affected by this hurricane. Praying that you are all out of harms way.

Much love,
Julia

Virma De Ris
11th September 2017, 01:05
Dammit. The tornado warnings are crazy. And in the pitch of night...my worst nightmares include tornadoes. 😱😭

Mike
11th September 2017, 01:15
Lake County. We still have power but it's been flickering on and off too. The wing gusts are impressive. Take care!



Yep. Violent gusts in fits n spurts. Power blinking off and on. Creates a weird, haunting foreboding. Hard to explain. I feel like I'm being taunted by poltergeists on the deck of the titanic.

Scary thing is, the bastard thing still isn't close to me yet

I'm actually gonna try and sleep. Funny how fatigue will always trump fear at some point

Noelle
11th September 2017, 01:18
Lake County. We still have power but it's been flickering on and off too. The wing gusts are impressive. Take care!

In the line of fire. Be safe too!

starlight
11th September 2017, 02:27
Mike, LadyM and Virma my thoughts are with you all! Keep your PA family updated xx

TargeT
11th September 2017, 02:57
its like a Cat2 now right? everyone should be fine as long as flooding isn't bad.

as far away from the center as I was (about 70 miles) we got around cat 2 winds maybe a bit higher gusts.. trees will loose a few branches and power poles probably will go down, but nothing terrible if it's similar to what we just went through. :bearhug:

good luck!

raregem
11th September 2017, 03:39
May you all be safe ,,,,,,,,

Virma De Ris
11th September 2017, 13:15
Thank you everyone. We woke up to a surprisingly stable scene. Our neighborhood is okay. Our house didn't receive damage despite the high winds gusts. There were many tornado warnings through the night, don't know if there were any touchdowns after midnight because I was so tired that I went to sleep. Some of my friends living near me suffered damage to their properties but they're safe. What's surprising is that we didn't lose power or water. I guess we have a good power and utility company. Have to admit that I'm feeling blessed.

LadyM, Mike, we hope that this blessing was also extended to you. I know many people weren't that lucky.

Blessings to all!

Mike
11th September 2017, 15:39
Thanks Virma De Ris.

Same thing here basically.

Lady M? Everything okay on your end?

Virma De Ris
11th September 2017, 16:37
Thanks Virma De Ris.

Same thing here basically.

Lady M? Everything okay on your end?

Good to know you're doing fine. :)

Foxie Loxie
11th September 2017, 19:46
I'm getting worried about LadyM!! :heart:

KiwiElf
11th September 2017, 21:30
Some disturbing & related info... Hurricane Harvey, followed by Hurricanes Irma, Katia and Jose have all been associated with some sort of "beams" emanating from Antarctica, (Source: US Navy Website).

"US Navy Website Shows Entire Planet Blanketed By Bizarre 'HAARP Anomaly' From Antarctica Including Direct Interaction With Rapidly Intensifying Hurricane Irma"
http://allnewspipeline.com/Indications_Irma_Weather_Warfare.php

(Refer to animated gif composite at link above - sorry, having trouble embedding it here - however, YT videos of the same from the above link)


In the new gif image seen above taken from the US Navy Research Laboratory's MIMIC (Morphed Integrated Microwave Imagery at CIMSS - Total Precipitable Water (MIMIC-TPW) website as shared in the 1st and 2nd videos below, we see a bizarre HAARP anomaly shoot up into the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans from the Antarctic region with 'waves' directly interacting with rapidly intensifying hurricane Irma. Evidence that incoming Hurricane Irma has been 'weaponized'?

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Ability to conjure storms, earthquakes etc. through esoteric rituals linked to astrological events. (Is 9/11 date a coincidence?)

Hurricanes Irma and Harvey: Ritualistic Astrology Used in Geoengineered False Flags?
http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/09/hurricanes-irma-and-harvey-ritualistic-astrology-used-in-geoengineered-false-flags.html

For those who still refuse to believe the reality of weather manipulation technology are encouraged to read the article at the following link as an introduction to the topic:

The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: “Owning the Weather” for Military Use
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ultimate-weapon-of-mass-destruction-owning-the-weather-for-military-use-2/5306386

And finally,
175 U.S. Patents Prove Geoengineering and Weather Control Technologies are Real... This full list is cited from GeoengineeringWatch.com:

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/links-to-geoengineering-patents/

Keep your eyes on what happens with Jose...

Foxie Loxie
12th September 2017, 19:50
Finally heard from my friends near Orlando about 3:25.....hope we learn soon about LadyM! :heart:

Cidersomerset
12th September 2017, 20:50
Piers is the elder brother of UK Labour party leader Jeremy Corbyn and
is a respected climate researcher....A very good interview imo.

The Richie Allen Show on Davidicke.com: Piers Corbyn - 'Hurricane Irma
Is Definitive Proof That The Sun And NOT Co2 Is Driving Climate'

By Andrew Cheetham on 12 September 2017 GMT

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Published on 12 Sep 2017
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September 2017 Starts With Flare

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Published on 11 Sep 2017...NASA

NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory, which watches the sun constantly, captured
images of the events. Solar flares are powerful bursts of radiation. Harmful
radiation from a flare cannot pass through Earth's atmosphere to physically affect
humans on the ground, however — when intense enough — they can disturb the
atmosphere in the layer where GPS and communications signals travel.

To see how this event may affect Earth, please visit NOAA's Space Weather
Prediction Center at http://spaceweather.gov, the U.S. government's official source
for space weather forecasts, alerts, watches and warnings.

X-class denotes the most intense flares, while the number provides more
information about its strength. An X2 is twice as intense as an X1, an X3 is three
times as intense, etc.

The X9.3 flare was the largest flare so far in the current solar cycle, the
approximately 11-year-cycle during which the sun’s activity waxes and wanes. The
current solar cycle began in December 2008, and is now decreasing in intensity and
heading toward solar minimum. This is a phase when such eruptions on the sun are
increasingly rare, but history has shown that they can nonetheless be intense.

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'It looks like The Walking Dead': Florida's residents assess Irma's damage
By Andrew Cheetham on 12 September 2017 GMT
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/irma-hurricane-florida-naples-damage-resident-on-storm-a7941466.html

Foxie Loxie
12th September 2017, 23:02
Thanks, Cider! This all makes The Electric Universe connection much easier to understand; along with the huge quake in Chiapas, Mexico. Such devastation!:facepalm:

Star Tsar
12th September 2017, 23:13
I will share this here...


Fade To Black

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Episode 718 | Dane Wigington | Irma : Engineering Weather

Aired 11th September 2017 | Published 12th September 2017

Dane Wigington has a background in solar energy. He is a former employee of Bechtel Power Corp. and was a licensed contractor in California and Arizona.

His personal residence was featured in a cover article on the world’s largest renewable energy magazine, Home Power. He owns a large wildlife preserve next to Lake Shasta in Northern California.

Dane focused his efforts and energy on the geoengineering issue when he began to lose very significant amounts of solar uptake due to ever-increasing “solar obscuration” caused from the aircraft spraying as he also noted significant decline in forest health and began testing and research into the geoengineering issue about a decade ago.

He is the lead researcher for http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org and has investigated all levels of geoengineering, solar radiation management, and global ionosphere heaters like HAARP. Dane has appeared on an extensive number of interviews and films to explain the environmental dangers we face on a global level from the ongoing climate engineering assault.

Tonight we are going to discuss all of the recent global weather and disasters…from the current wildfires, hurricanes and earthquakes…what is causing them and is there anything we can do about it…and much more.

Supporting Link: www.jimmychurchradio.com (http://www.jimmychurchradio.com)

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Caliban
12th September 2017, 23:59
Now is the time to really spread this information to anyone who'll listen. Dane W. has lots of interviews on YT where he patiently lays out what's happening up there. And he goes deeply into it. Man, I looked up tonight and what did I see -- a plane spewing out this garbage in a long ugly plume. I felt like telling everyone around me, "Look up, can't you see it." But, no, I was calm and gave a few people info on the http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ site. It's really unbelievable.

Hervé
13th September 2017, 12:19
...

:focus:


Atlantic http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/nhctab_on.jpg http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/nhctab_on.jpg
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/xgtwo/two_atl_0d0.png?131142


Active Storms (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/cyclones/) | Marine Forecasts (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/marine/) 2-Day Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2) | 5-Day Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5)

(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5)

(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5)
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/vis-animated.gif
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5)

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT12/refresh/AL122017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/115856_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png



See post # 145 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99516-Hurricanes-Harvey...-Irma...-Jos--...&p=1179293&viewfull=1#post1179293) for auto updates on Irma + Jose (when refreshing browser's page)

Eric J (Viking)
13th September 2017, 20:30
Update from Earth Watch... Heading towards New York?

https://youtu.be/0PLNY-kMMss

Viking

Michelle Marie
13th September 2017, 21:54
Spoke to relatives in Florida today. They expect to be without power until Sunday. Gasoline is hard to come by. Prayer circle meeting today to improve conditions...

:heart: MM

Ron Mauer Sr
14th September 2017, 00:25
For those interested in prepping for the next storm, financial or hurricane, here is a link to information that could be very valuable.
http://ronmauer.net/blog/

starlight
15th September 2017, 03:45
These screenshots were taken 9/14 PM...

Notice the prediction date: first pic 9/21, second pic 9/24.

New hurricane formed in the Atlantic? We need to keep an eye on this one...

EDIT: I added wind speed picture for a better perspective

KiwiElf
15th September 2017, 09:40
Just ran the latest Ventusky projection now with Jose going straight into New York around the 19-21st (as posted earlier - it changes every few hours), reduced in size but still of Irma proportions - this is getting really quite scary! ATM, the new hurricane(s) forming in Starlight's images could effectively "finish the job", certainly for the Caribbean Islands. (Yes, turn on the "Wind Speed" filter as suggested by Starlight in the third image above) ;)

https://www.ventusky.com/

As I write this, check out the tropical storm between Taiwan & Hiroshima, projected to become a full blown typhoon shortly and travelling up most of Japan at rapid speed.

Have found Ventusky to be every bit as accurate (or not) as any other weather projection website. (We're about to get pummelled with heavy rain within the next 2 hrs. The weather here in NZ has been completely weird since Harvey, record rain falls, storms & lightning strikes. Nothing like Harvey or Irma tho (we're supposed to be in Spring - it's more like winter with constant bizarre storms and rainfall!) - whatever is causing these storms if affecting the whole planet.

Foxie Loxie
15th September 2017, 13:30
So good to get your perspective, KiwiElf! Could this all be the effect LaViolette has been predicting....a galactic wave washing over us? :confused:

RunningDeer
15th September 2017, 19:59
An update from LadyM via Foxie Loxie.

Posted by LadyM



Hi foxie loxie: thanks for checking on me. It's been miserable with no power and limited access to my cell phone service. We had some tree damage but we are all ok. Though now the heat is slowly killing me and my furry family. If you could, please post this in the Irma thread. It's hard to do much with my phone because of charging challenges. I shall end this message with: it was a horrible storm and I miss my Avalon friends.

Thank you and hope to be back soon.
For LadyM, Family & Furry Familyhttp://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/come-in-hug.gifhttp://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/fan.gif

KiwiElf
16th September 2017, 03:12
So good to get your perspective, KiwiElf! Could this all be the effect LaViolette has been predicting....a galactic wave washing over us? :confused:

Thank you Loxi. :waving:

A wise character - who also has pointy ears - once said, "Everything is real, nothing is unreal"... it's entirely possible. Our present situation must change if we are to prevail. ;)

I said a long time ago; 2017 - EVERYthing will change. It is the time of exposure & disclosure (on ALL fronts) - a convergence & major turning point in our collective reality (refer to Harmonic Convergence)

If we are living in the past, if we are living in the future, when "Now" comes knocking on our door, we will not be "home". There is only NOW. :)

uzn
16th September 2017, 15:05
Predictions indicate that another Hurrican could hit the coast slightly above Florida on the 25th.
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=32.1;-77.3;4&l=wind&t=20170925/18

Hervé
16th September 2017, 18:48
So far:



http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/xgtwo/two_atl_0d0.png?091202
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

Noelle
17th September 2017, 04:07
Good to be back.

A thanks to Foxie Loxie and Running Deer for posting my message above. Power returned late this afternoon, two days sooner than what were told by FPL. It has been a miserable six days.

Irma's eye did not pass over the Space Coast, but being on the east side of the storm, we were nailed with ferocious bands that seemed to take hours to go by. We had about nine inches of rain within less than a night's time, causing the canal behind us to rise very quickly and flood the banks. For a time I thought it could reach our home and sweep us away. But it did not. The winds were crazy; our house rumbled all night long. Tornado alerts came every 30-60 minutes it seemed. We lost power as the eye moved through Orlando -- I believe the majority of the Space Coast lost power.

Not only did we wake up Monday morning to no power, but our cell phone service was gone. We could not reach anyone and had no idea how much damage Irma did to the Keys, Naples, Jacksonville, and other areas. All stores and gas stations in our small city were closed; some opened late Tuesday, but they either had long lines or nothing much to offer.

I have two dogs and several cats, so I spent most of the last week trying to keep them and myself as cool as possible. It was hard to do when it was in low 90s outside and the high 80s inside. The hurricane ripped boughs and leaves from our trees, so we had no shade. To keep the dogs cool, I would bring them in the car for AC or hose their bellies every 30 mins.

Another challenge was our neighbor, whose house is less than 20 feet away from us. He had an old generator with the exhaust aimed at our screened in porch. One night, the fumes poured into the porch and then into our home. I had to call the fire department because I was worried about carbon monoxide, which I later learned was a big concern for the state with so many using generators.

I know. What I went through is nothing compared to what others have had to endure as a result of Irma. My heart goes out to all of them.

starlight
17th September 2017, 05:29
So happy to hear from you, LadyM! We were concerned about you. So sorry to hear about the oppressing heat on your family, furry friends and all. I am happy you received minimal damage, and you're right you are very lucky as others fared worse. Count your blessings...we are happy to have you back safe 'n sound! :bearhug:

Noelle
17th September 2017, 05:44
So happy to hear from you, LadyM! We were concerned about you. So sorry to hear about the oppressing heat on your family, furry friends and all. I am happy you received minimal damage, and you're right you are very lucky as others fared worse. Count your blessings...we are happy to have you back safe 'n sound! :bearhug:

I appreciate that! You betcha, I am counting my blessings. :angel:

RunningDeer
17th September 2017, 06:30
Good to be back.
I have two dogs and several cats, so I spent most of the last week trying to keep them and myself as cool as possible. It was hard to do when it was in low 90s outside and the high 80s inside.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/write.gif Glad to know you and your family are okay, LadyM.

I was without power and water for a little over a week when Hurricane Irene hit in August, 2011. I had an on-going emergency stash, some of which included ten, 5 gallon buckets of water, a Berkey water filter (https://www.berkeyfilters.com) & 10" battery powered fan (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=battery+operated+fan&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8).


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/battery-fan2.jpg

KiwiElf
17th September 2017, 08:48
Relieved to hear you & your little ones are OK LadyM!:bearhug::happy dog:

Noelle
17th September 2017, 14:19
Good to be back.
I have two dogs and several cats, so I spent most of the last week trying to keep them and myself as cool as possible. It was hard to do when it was in low 90s outside and the high 80s inside.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/write.gif Glad to know you and your family are okay, LadyM.

I was without power and water for a little over a week when Hurricane Irene hit in August, 2011. I had an on-going emergency stash, some of which included ten, 5 gallon buckets of water, a Berkey water filter (https://www.berkeyfilters.com) & 10" battery powered fan (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=battery+operated+fan&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8).


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/battery-fan2.jpg

Thanks, RunningDeer. We were unable to find bottled water before the hurricane hit, so we went to Target and bought a large Zero Water dispenser (we already had a pitcher), and we filled up all of our old water jugs with tap water. We also stocked up on things like peanut butter and Quest protein bars. We have no generator, but we plan to get one. We are also looking into portable AC units to put in one room. Just glad it's over.

RunningDeer
17th September 2017, 15:51
We are also looking into portable AC units to put in one room. Just glad it's over.
I purchased a portable air conditioner about five years ago. It only lasted a couple of season before there was a marked decrease in efficiency. By season three, it wasn’t worth the extra cost to my electric bill. I’d pass along the make and model, but I paid a couple of guy to haul away my heavy ‘stuff’ last spring. Resource starter: The Best Portable Air Conditioners of 2017 (http://www.toptenreviews.com/home/hvac/best-portable-air-conditioners/).


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Cartoons_Silly/pen-border2.jpg

Last week, I added a couple of alternative light sources to my emergency stash: candle lantern and solar lantern. I’ve included a link to why I use beeswax candles.

Beeswax vs Soy Wax Candles
[article (http://www.motherearthliving.com/green-homes/better-burn-beeswax-soy-wax-palm-oil-candles)]




Most conventional candles are made of paraffin, a petroleum byproduct, and scented with synthetic fragrances, which often contain hormone-disrupting phthalates. According to a  study reported by LEAD Action News, scented paraffin candles emit the same fumes as diesel exhaust—known neurotoxins and carcinogens such as toluene and benzene, and hydrocarbons linked to asthma, allergies, and skin, eye and lung irritation. What’s more, studies have found that the superfine soot emitted by burning candles penetrates deep into the lungs where it can cause irritation and damage. Scented paraffin candles in enclosed containers (such as glass jars) are the worst soot offenders. Finally, although use of lead in candles has mostly been eliminated, some inexpensive imported candle wicks may still contain and emit lead—a bioaccumulative neurotoxin that’s especially dangerous for children. 

Fortunately, several candle options can safely illuminate your space. Pure beeswax candles with cotton wicks (not dipped in paraffin) are a healthy choice. Compared with their petroleum-derived counterparts, beeswax candles burn at a lower temperature, produce less soot and last longer. Find a local source, and you’re supporting local beekeepers, too.




Luci Inflatable Solar Lantern
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UCO Original Candle Lantern
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Noelle
17th September 2017, 16:05
We are also looking into portable AC units to put in one room. Just glad it's over.
I purchased a portable air conditioner about five years ago. It only lasted a couple of season before there was a marked decrease in efficiency. By season three, it wasn’t worth the extra cost to my electric bill. I’d pass along the make and model, but I paid a couple of guy to haul away my heavy ‘stuff’ last spring. Resource starter: The Best Portable Air Conditioners of 2017 (http://www.toptenreviews.com/home/hvac/best-portable-air-conditioners/).


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Cartoons_Silly/pen-border2.jpg

Last week, I added a couple of alternative light sources to my emergency stash: candle lantern and solar lantern. I’ve included a link to why I use beeswax candles.

Beeswax vs Soy Wax Candles
[article (http://www.motherearthliving.com/green-homes/better-burn-beeswax-soy-wax-palm-oil-candles)]




Most conventional candles are made of paraffin, a petroleum byproduct, and scented with synthetic fragrances, which often contain hormone-disrupting phthalates. According to a  study reported by LEAD Action News, scented paraffin candles emit the same fumes as diesel exhaust—known neurotoxins and carcinogens such as toluene and benzene, and hydrocarbons linked to asthma, allergies, and skin, eye and lung irritation. What’s more, studies have found that the superfine soot emitted by burning candles penetrates deep into the lungs where it can cause irritation and damage. Scented paraffin candles in enclosed containers (such as glass jars) are the worst soot offenders. Finally, although use of lead in candles has mostly been eliminated, some inexpensive imported candle wicks may still contain and emit lead—a bioaccumulative neurotoxin that’s especially dangerous for children. 

Fortunately, several candle options can safely illuminate your space. Pure beeswax candles with cotton wicks (not dipped in paraffin) are a healthy choice. Compared with their petroleum-derived counterparts, beeswax candles burn at a lower temperature, produce less soot and last longer. Find a local source, and you’re supporting local beekeepers, too.




Luci Inflatable Solar Lantern
9mDq-nSbRcw

UCO Original Candle Lantern
yeYOudovxA0


Good to know information -- all of it. I have started looking into solar lanterns and portable solar generators to charge things like phones. I will check out the videos. Thanks!

Mark (Star Mariner)
17th September 2017, 22:56
Been away a while but just popping in to say that I'm very glad to hear you're ok LadyM and anyone else effected down there. Hope everyone is back on their feet real soon. Went through a bad one in the keys in the early 90s and I recall how frightening and horrible it was, so my thoughts were with you during Irma. Just relieved to hear all is well now!

Noelle
18th September 2017, 01:41
Been away a while but just popping in to say that I'm very glad to hear you're ok LadyM and anyone else effected down there. Hope everyone is back on their feet real soon. Went through a bad one in the keys in the early 90s and I recall how frightening and horrible it was, so my thoughts were with you during Irma. Just relieved to hear all is well now!

Thanks, Star Mariner. I've been through a few hurricanes, and Irma is at the top of my list as the worst. I don't want to see another one like it again. RunningDeer, get your hurricane-blowing fan ready to help us keep Maria away.

Harley
18th September 2017, 02:11
Mods: You may want to think about adding MARIA to the thread title.

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Maria, Following Irma's Path, Is Now A Category 1 Hurricane (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/17/americas/atlantic-storms-jose-lee-maria/index.html)

Updated 8:06 PM ET, Sun September 17, 2017


Story Highlights:

* Maria is getting closer to islands devastated by Hurricane Irma

* Hurricane Jose could bring "dangerous surf and rip currents" to the US East Coast

Hurricane Maria was upgraded from a tropical storm Sunday as it takes aim at Caribbean islands devastated less than two weeks ago by Hurricane Irma.

As of Sunday evening, Maria was about 125 miles (201 kilometers) east-northeast of Barbados, according to the National Hurricane Center. It had strengthened into a Category 1 hurricane, hurling winds of 80 mph, and is forecast to continue moving toward the eastern Caribbean at 15 mph.

"Maria has strengthened to a hurricane and could be near major hurricane intensity which it affects portions of the Leeward Islands over the next few days, bringing dangerous wind, storm surge and rainfall hazards," the hurricane center said.

http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/0918/h_1505699943_3497999_edca090bba.jpeg

Expected Track:
http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/17/0918/h_1505700549_7976543_72aa7707f2.jpeg

Maria is one of three storms churning in the Atlantic Ocean, but it poses the most danger to the hurricane-battered Caribbean.

Maria has prompted a hurricane warning for Martinique, Guadeloupe, Dominica, St. Kitts, Nevis and Montserrat. A tropical storm warning is in effect for Antigua and Barbuda, Saba, St. Eustatius and St. Lucia. A warning is typically issued 36 hours before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force winds.

The warning means that tropical storm conditions are expected within 36 hours.

A hurricane watch is in effect for the US Virgin Islands, the British Virgin Islands, St. Maarten/St. Martin, St. Barthelemy and Anguilla -- many of which were devastated when Irma blew through the Caribbean, killing 44 people. A hurricane watch is typically issued 48 hours before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force winds.

"Maria is likely to affect the British and US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico by mid week as a dangerous major hurricane," the NHC said.

Torrential rainfall could cause deadly flash flooding and mudslides. Maria could dump 6 to 12 inches of rain across the Leeward Islands -- including Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and the British Virgin Islands -- through Wednesday night.

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RunningDeer
18th September 2017, 02:25
RunningDeer, get your hurricane-blowing fan ready to help us keep Maria away.
NOTE: model is for Tuesday/Wednesday

Workin’ on a couple of ‘em’.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Empower/green-fan2.gifhttp://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Empower/NY-FL.jpg

Hervé
18th September 2017, 12:37
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/11L/imagery/vis_lalo-animated.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/234935.shtml?cone#contents)


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/xgtwo/two_atl_0d0.png?091202
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT15/refresh/AL152017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/114940_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png
* If the storm is forecast to dissipate within 3 days, the "Full Forecast" and "3 day" graphic will be identical



http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/vis-animated.gif


http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/vs/7.jpg (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/234935.shtml?cone#contents)

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huvsloop.html





http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT12/refresh/AL122017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/115856_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png



Event 1: Infrared Loop (Jose)


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/12L/imagery/vis_lalo-animated.gif


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floa...o-animated.gif (http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/12L/imagery/vis_lalo-animated.gif)


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RunningDeer
18th September 2017, 16:51
This is the visual I use to sprinkle change.


Simply see it…
G-O-N-E

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Empower/GONE.gif


seko
18th September 2017, 20:10
Is hurricane Maria going to hit the island where Target lives??

TargeT
18th September 2017, 22:04
Is hurricane Maria going to hit the island where Target lives??

yes, we expect a direct hit by the eye (but current predictions show it a bit to the south, which may be just as bad, the north side is the worst for winds), starting tomorrow late morning probably through Thursday midday will be bad, it's a Cat 4 now but may get even stronger by tomorrow as it hits warmer and warmer water.

Irma didn't worry me much, this one does, but luckily I'm still ready from last week's hurricane (not too often you get to say that....).

Hopefully it gets weaker, or takes a turn, but at this point it's definitely hitting us tomorrow, St thomas/john was hit hard by irma & maria will do some damage to st croix it looks like.. hopefully it weakens.

Category 4 Hurricane Maria Takes Aim at Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-irma/still-reeling-irma-caribbean-digs-hurricane-maria-n802181)

According to http://stormcarib.com/closest.cgi:

Results for St.Croix (17.7N, 64.8W):
The approximate Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is located near 17.5N, 65.0W or about 19.8 miles (31.9 km) from your location. The estimated time of when the center of the storm will be at that location is in about 1 day, 12 hours and 44 minutes from now (Wednesday, September 20 at 7:06AM AST).



Maria probably arriving as a Category 4 and growing system. Satellite and radar presentations suggest her inner eyewall is consolidating strength in the heavy thunderstorm arena. Fortunately, if there is a fortunately, her eye diameter is only 15 miles wide so peak winds are in a small piece of Maria. Still, where they land, it will be catastrophic. This damage will be enhanced by the slower forward motion of 10 mph. Torrential rains, mudslides and flash flooding will also be experienced. Guadeloupe could also feel the eyewall of Maria. The surrounding islands will feel many of the same effects except for the eyewall itself as TS force winds stretch out up to 125 miles.
http://stormcarib.com/

if it stays south we might be alright, the further south the better, we don't want the eye touching land, but who knows where it will end up....

Virma De Ris
19th September 2017, 00:37
Target, Madeira, please take care. Maria just got upgraded to Category 5 (8pm EST on 9/18/2017).

Virma De Ris
19th September 2017, 00:42
Lady M. Good to know that you're okay. We got lucky but not my closest friend, so I was busy helping her. I know etheres still areas here in Lake County that still have no power...

TargeT
19th September 2017, 02:34
I haven't had power since tuesday before Irma, I don't expect this next monster will help that change any time soon... two cat5's back to back and not even half way through hurricane season... hmmmm

Noelle
19th September 2017, 03:16
Lady M. Good to know that you're okay. We got lucky but not my closest friend, so I was busy helping her. I know etheres still areas here in Lake County that still have no power...

Thank you! I remember hearing that in some areas that were hard hit power may not be restored until later this week. Very happy that you got through it ok.

Be safe, TargeT and Madeira! Hoping this is the last time that I have to say something like that for a long time.

Noelle
19th September 2017, 03:21
I haven't had power since tuesday before Irma, I don't expect this next monster will help that change any time soon... two cat5's back to back and not even half way through hurricane season... hmmmm

How are you staying cool? Do you have a generator?

marique3652
19th September 2017, 04:43
I haven't had power since tuesday before Irma, I don't expect this next monster will help that change any time soon... two cat5's back to back and not even half way through hurricane season... hmmmm

I live in Florida and was without power for four days...Port Charlotte was a direct hit, and I am fortunate as hell that my home is still standing, and got minimal damage..tore 7 panels out of my pool enclosure, my car port is sitting on my front lawn in pieces, had to get a new mailbox, the wind split my 4x4" mailbox post in half, my roommate's explorer got scratches, the house front lights were ripped out and smashed and that was it for damage...so thankful to be alive, did not evacuate due to a very ill dog (who passed away three days after the hurricane). My evacuation bags and boxes are still packed and not unpacking till the hurricanes stop coming...Stay safe Target and Madeira. Hope you get through and get power soon.

TargeT
19th September 2017, 04:54
I haven't had power since tuesday before Irma, I don't expect this next monster will help that change any time soon... two cat5's back to back and not even half way through hurricane season... hmmmm

How are you staying cool? Do you have a generator?

Solar power and generator, I hope I still have both those after this storm, my pannels say they are rated to 140mph wind... and this is a cat 5 at 165mph, but maybe i'll get lucky and it will turn a bit to the south I'm still about a day out from the eye.

http://weathercarib.com/15Adv-12.jpg

Eric J (Viking)
19th September 2017, 08:21
And the devastation goes on and on...🙁

Hurricane Maria 'devastates' Dominica: PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-41317164?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Article begins:

Dominica has suffered "widespread damage" from Hurricane Maria, Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit says.

"We have lost all that money can buy," he said in a Facebook post.

The hurricane strengthened to a "potentially catastrophic" category five storm before making landfall on the Caribbean island.

Viking

TargeT
19th September 2017, 09:17
Results for St.Croix (17.7N, 64.8W):
The approximate Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is located near 17.6N, 64.8W or about 5.8 miles (9.4 km) from your location. The estimated time of when the center of the storm will be at that location is in about 1 day, and 12 minutes from now (Wednesday, September 20 at 5:24AM AST).

it's predicted to be 5.8 miles off the coast of my island, which is basically another direct hit... not good.

we are already getting some wind and rain a day out.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/15L/imagery/rb0-lalo.gif

Island wide curfew is set for 10 am this morning, I'm going to go out and see if i can get some video of the south west end of the island before the storm hits, that will probably be the worst area (the area where I, unfortunately, live).

I hope my roof stays on! :raining::happythumbsup::raining:



Hurricane Maria Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL152017
510 AM AST Tue Sep 19 2017

...MARIA REGAINS CATEGORY 5 STRENGTH...

Recent reports from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter
aircraft indicate that Maria has reintensified to category 5
status, with estimated maximum sustained winds of 160 mph (260
km/h).
http://stormcarib.com/

greybeard
19th September 2017, 09:58
Wishing you all that can be hoped for--Keep your head down--not the time to be adventurous.
Chris

Foxie Loxie
19th September 2017, 11:18
Marique....good you made it through, but sorry about your dog! Take care TargeT & Madeira! Our thoughts & prayers will be with you!! :pray:

Mark (Star Mariner)
19th September 2017, 12:09
Life's hard enough without the weather coming along to kick our backsides. Fingers crossed TargeT, Madeira, LadyM and anyone else in the path...

Bruno
19th September 2017, 12:13
Stay safe TargeT. Living in the middle of North America I can't even imagine. Thinking of you and your family.

Retief
19th September 2017, 12:23
Good luck TargetT and everyone else in the path. We're in Naples FL, rode Irma out, just got internet but still no power.

Foxie Loxie
19th September 2017, 13:34
Retief...glad you made it through Irma! Can't believe you're still without power! Prayers for all going through Maria!:pray:

justntime2learn
19th September 2017, 16:23
Just noticed the hurricane was headed right over you TargetT.

Praying for everyone and their families.

Hervé
19th September 2017, 18:40
...


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/420372/full/maria_irma_19_09_0800_b.png


https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/maria_irma_19_09_0800_a.png?w=720

Madeira
20th September 2017, 05:01
Avalon...this one feels worse than Irma. Send some positive vibes.

Foxie Loxie
20th September 2017, 12:26
We're with you....let us know, when you can, how things are. :bearhug:

Hervé
20th September 2017, 12:46
Hurricane Maria makes landfall on Puerto Rico – live updates (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates)

Storm pummels US territory of St Croix, heading for direct hit on Puerto Rico, and leaving island of Dominica devastated


Where is Hurricane Maria heading? Mapping the path of destruction (https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/sep/19/where-is-hurricane-maria-heading-mapping-the-path-of-destruction)
Puerto Rico forecast to take ‘potentially catastrophic’ direct hit (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/20/puerto-rico-potentially-catastrophic-direct-hit-hurricane-maria)
If you’ve been affected by the storm you can share your story here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/19/are-you-affected-by-hurricane-maria)

Matthew Weaver (https://www.theguardian.com/profile/matthewweaver) (now), Claire Phipps (https://www.theguardian.com/profile/clairephipps) and Sam Levin (https://www.theguardian.com/profile/sam-levin) (earlier)
Wednesday 20 September 2017 13.28 BST First published on Tuesday 19 September 2017 21.56 BST

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9m ago Flash flood warning for Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c25e97e4b0b80096fb874c#block-59c25e97e4b0b80096fb874c)
12m ago Record flooding on Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c25d65e4b0b80096fb8744#block-59c25d65e4b0b80096fb8744)
2h ago Maria makes landfall on Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c2485ae4b008311a98ede8#block-59c2485ae4b008311a98ede8)
2h ago Seven people confirmed dead on Dominica (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c240ace4b0b80096fb86ad#block-59c240ace4b0b80096fb86ad)
3h ago Maria dips to a category 4 hurricane (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c23020e4b0c1d59183248a#block-59c23020e4b0c1d59183248a)
4h ago Eyewall over Vieques (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c22349e4b0f6beafd39ffa#block-59c22349e4b0f6beafd39ffa)
6h ago What we know so far (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c20ff1e4b0f6beafd39fb9#block-59c20ff1e4b0f6beafd39fb9)


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Flash flood warning for Puerto Rico

A flash flood warning has been issued for a large part of eastern Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/puerto-rico) as river levels hit record levels.

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Record flooding on Puerto Rico

River levels are approaching or exceeding record levels across Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/puerto-rico) according to data from the US Geological Survey.
The Rio Grande de Manati near Ciales has broken record levels by almost a foot with much more rain to come.

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Hurricane Maria remains a category four storm with maximum sustained winds of 150 mph as it barrels over Puerto Rico, according to the latest update from the National Hurricane Centre. (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT5+shtml/201156.shtml) It is currently 15 miles south-southeast of the capital San Juan.
The NHC says:
On the forecast track, the eye of Maria will continue to move across Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/puerto-rico) this morning and emerge off the northern coast by this afternoon. The center will then pass just north of the northeast coast of the Dominican Republic tonight and Thursday. Maximum sustained winds are near 150 mph (240 km/h) with higher gusts.

Maria is an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale, and it is forecast to retain this intensity while it moves across Puerto Rico. Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 60 miles (95 km) from the center, and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 150 miles (240 km).

A sustained wind of 81 mph (130 km/h) with a gust to 109 mph (175 km/h) was recently reported at Yabucoa Harbor, Puerto Rico. A sustained wind of 63 mph (101 km/h) with a gust to 118 mph (190 km/h) was recently reported at Camp Santiago, Puerto Rico. A National Ocean Service tide gauge at Yabucoa Harbor recently reported a water level of 5.3 ft above Mean Higher High Water. The estimated minimum central pressure is 921 mb (27.20 inches).

A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for:


US Virgin Islands
British Virgin Islands
Puerto Rico, Culebra, and Vieques
Dominican Republic from Cabo Engano to Puerto Plata
Turks and Caicos Islands
The Southeastern Bahamas


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Journalists on Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/puerto-rico) are hunkering down in hotels.
The storm shutters are down in the Marriott in San Juan, but the doors have had to be strapped up with rope to stop them flying open, according to video David Begnaud, from CBS.

Here’s a piece to camera he recorded earlier:

CNN’s Leyla Santiago has been moved inside to the same hotel after recording this. (https://twitter.com/CNN/status/910460896299937793)

Other hotels are faring less well.

Updated at 1.13pm BST
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It’s that time when TV journalist and meteorologist venture out into the elements during the midst of a wild. That was Irma, (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/11/gone-with-the-wind-reporters-get-a-soaking-in-hurricane-irma)this is Maria:

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Webcam footage has emerged purportedly showing the scene at Yabucoa where Maria made landfall.

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1h ago 12:08 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c24aeae4b0e9e3a1da75d6#block-59c24aeae4b0e9e3a1da75d6)
Maria is the first category four storm to hit Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/puerto-rico) for 85 years, according to storm chaser Jeff Piotrowski.

Fellow storm chaser Mike Theiss posts video of what it looks like on the ground in Fajarado, east of the eye the storm.

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Maria makes landfall on Puerto Rico

Hurricane Maria has just made landfall on Puerto Rico, according to an update from the National Hurricane Center (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT5+shtml/201034.shtml).

It said:
Geostationary satellite images and surface observations indicate that the center of Hurricane Maria (https://www.theguardian.com/world/hurricane-maria) made landfall near Yabucoa, Puerto Rico, around 615 AM AST. A sustained wind 60 mph (96 km/h) with a wind gust to 113 mph (182 km/h) was recently reported at Yabucoa Harbor, Puerto Rico. A National Ocean Service tide gauge at Yabucoa Harbor, Puerto Rico, recently reported a water level of 4.3 ft above Mean Higher High Water (MHHW).
Updated at 12.00pm BST
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2h ago 11:51 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c24450e4b008311a98edcf#block-59c24450e4b008311a98edcf)
What we know so far


Hurricane Maria, now an “extremely dangerous” category four storm is about to make landfall on Puerto Rico after lashing the Virgin Islands. Windspeeds of 110mph were recorded on the Puerto Rican island of Vieques as the eyewall passed over.
St Croix, home to around 50,000 people, was spared the eye of the hurricane, which skirted south of the island, but has suffered strong winds and rains from Maria’s eyewall.
Seven people are confirmed to have been killed on Dominica (https://www.theguardian.com/world/dominica) and more deaths are feared amid reports of “total destruction” on the island. An aide to the prime minister said Dominica had been devastated with much of the housing stock damaged or destroyed. Nearly all the students at the island’s Ross University school of medicine have been accounted amid plans to evacuate them over the weekend.
US Virgin Islands governor Kenneth Mapp warned residents: “You lose your life the moment you start thinking about how to save a few bucks to stop something from crashing or burning or falling apart. The only thing that matters is the safety of your family, and your children, and yourself. The rest of the stuff, forget it.”
There are concerns about damaging flooding on the British Virgin Islands. British troops on the islands were clearing gullies before being forced to hunker down to shelter from Maria. BVI governor Gus Jaspert said that with up to 90% of houses destroyed or damaged by Irma barely two weeks ago, “shelter is a real issue”.
A Hurricane Warning is still in effect for: US Virgin Islands; British Virgin Islands; Puerto Rico, Culebra, and Vieques; Dominican Republic from Cabo Engano to Puerto Plata; Turks and Caicos Islands; and Southeastern Bahamas.
Thousands of people in Puerto Rico have taken refuge in shelters, with officials warning that Maria will have a far greater impact there than Irma.
News from Dominica, the first island struck by Maria, and which experienced the eye of the hurricane passing directly over, is still very patchy, with power and communications cut.
Unconfirmed reports (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c1b3a0e4b0c1d5918322b3#block-59c1b3a0e4b0c1d5918322b3) say at least six people have died and 90% of buildings (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c1c726e4b021abf3161cfc#block-59c1c726e4b021abf3161cfc) in Dominica have been damaged. The first aerial footage (https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2017/sep/20/aerial-footage-shows-devastation-in-dominica-after-hurricane-maria-video)from the island shows flattened buildings, fallen trees and strewn debris.
St Lucia, Martinique and Trinidad and Tobago are mobilising to help Dominica assess the scale of the damage and begin emergency relief efforts on Wednesday.
At least one person has died in the French island of Guadeloupe, considered the first official fatality (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-landfall-dominica-caribbean-category-five-storm-live?page=with:block-59c15a61e4b021abf3161b32#block-59c15a61e4b021abf3161b32) attributed to the storm.
Tens of thousands of households in Guadeloupe and Martinique have been left without power.

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2h ago 11:26 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c240ace4b0b80096fb86ad#block-59c240ace4b0b80096fb86ad)
Seven people confirmed dead on Dominica

Seven people are confirmed to have been killed on Dominica (https://www.theguardian.com/world/dominica) and more deaths are feared amid reports of “total destruction”, according to a chief aid to the prime minister.
Hartley Henry, principal advisor to Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit (https://www.facebook.com/SupportRooseveltSkerrit/?fref=mentions), gave an update on the impact of hurricane after speaking to Skerrit via satellite phone. Here it is in full:
He and family are fine. Dominica is not!! Tremendous loss of housing and public buildings. The main general hospital took a beating. Patient care has been compromised. Many buildings serving as shelters lost roofs, which means that a very urgent need now is tarpaulins and other roofing materials. Little contact has been made with the outer communities but persons who walked 10 and 15 miles towards the city of Roseau from various outer districts report total destruction of homes, some roadways and crops.

Urgent helicopter services are needed to take food, water and tarpaulins to outer districts for shelter. Canefield airport can accommodate helicopter landings and it is expected that from today, the waters around the main Roseau port will be calm enough to accommodate vessels bringing relief supplies and other forms of assistance.

It’s difficult to determine the level of fatalities but so far seven are confirmed, as a direct result of the hurricane. That figure, the Prime Minister fears, will rise as he wades his way into the rural communities today, Wednesday.

The urgent needs now are roofing materials for shelters, bedding supplies for hundreds stranded in or outside what’s left of their homes and food and water drops for residents of outlying districts inaccessible at the moment.

The tarmac at Mellville Hall was not too badly damaged so the strip should be opened in a day or two for larger relief planes to land. The Prime Minister is hoping to make contact with ABS Radio in Antigua this morning to speak directly to the outer world as to the state of Dominica and its urgent needs.

The country is in a daze - no electricity, no running water -as a result of uprooted pipes in most communities and definitely to landline or cellphone services on island, and that will be for quite a while.

In summary, the island has been devastated. The housing stock significantly damaged or destroyed. All available public buildings are being used as shelters; with very limited roofing materials evident. The country needs the support and continued help and prayers of all. Will update further as new information is received.
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The wind is already so strong on Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/puerto-rico) that police struggled to close the doors on one of the island’s 500 shelters, according to video from NBC’s Gadi Schwartz.
Others turn to prayer as the hurricane nears.

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3h ago 11:04 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c23b75e4b008311a98ed9a#block-59c23b75e4b008311a98ed9a)
Ross University school of medicine, on the hurricane hit island of Dominica (https://www.theguardian.com/world/dominica), says it has accounted for nearly all of its students most of whom are US citizens.

In an update it said (http://medical.rossu.edu/medical-school/2017/09/ALERTS-Campus-Status-Weather-Updates-and-More.cfm): “Once we have confirmed their names and student ID numbers, we will contact each student’s emergency contact using the number recorded at their check-in a few weeks ago. Several dozen people are working through the night to complete this task and calls will be made to emergency contacts as soon as we positively confirm your loved ones status.”
On the current damage it said:
There is extensive damage to Dominica from Hurricane Maria (https://www.theguardian.com/world/hurricane-maria) including property, vehicles, trees, power lines, and communication channels. Today we received reports of strong wind gusts despite the passage of the hurricane. We have not received any reports of serious flooding where our campus is located and of common areas where our students and colleagues reside.

An evacuation of the students is being planned for the weekend but is not currently possible because the airport is closed. The update said: “The airports are not available at this time. Therefore, we are working on an alternative plan to evacuate your loved ones. Our target is to begin evacuations this weekend.”

The university building itself is reportedly built to withstand category 5 hurricanes, but most students live off-campus.

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3h ago 10:52 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c238afe4b008311a98ed88#block-59c238afe4b008311a98ed88)
Brigadier John Ridge, who is coordinating the UK joint hurricane task force, says the main concern on the British Virgin Island is flooding.

British troops on the islands were clearing gullies and ditches before being forced to hunker down as Maria passed, Ridge told BBC News.
He said:
Our concern for the British Virgin Islands (https://www.theguardian.com/world/british-virgin-islands) is the fact that it [Maria] is due to bring some very heavy rain. Our concern there is the flooding and the storm surges. All the vegetation was stripped off during Hurricane Irma so we are very concerned about the flooding there.

The effects will definitely have been felt on the British Virgin Islands. We are hoping that the military personel there, hunkered down during the worst of it, will be up and back in communication with us in the next hour or so. The worst in terms of the wind will be certainly have been over the last few hours.

Speaking via video link from Barbados, Ridge added: “We did everything we could until the last moment and then the teams out there hunkered down so that they were ready prepared.

“The moment the hurricane is clear, one of the first things I’ll be asking them to do is to confirm the state of the runway which is on Beef Island, just to the east of Tortola.

“That’s critical because it allows me to continue the inload of aid and other support as required.”

Ridge confirmed that 60 tonnes of UK aid is due to arrive in the Caribbean (https://www.theguardian.com/weather/caribbean) on HMS Ocean on Friday.

Updated at 11.45am BST
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3h ago 10:20 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/19/hurricane-maria-category-5-caribbean-live-updates?page=with:block-59c231eee4b008311a98ed6e#block-59c231eee4b008311a98ed6e)
Landfall on Puerto Rico (https://www.theguardian.com/world/puerto-rico) should happen in the next two hours, according to the NHC.
Its latest update says (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT5+shtml/200857.shtml):
On the forecast track the eye of Maria will make landfall in Puerto Rico in a couple of hours, cross Puerto Rico today, and pass just north of the northeast coast of the Dominican Republic tonight and Thursday.
Maximum sustained winds are near 155 mph (250 km/h) with higher gusts. Maria is an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale, and it should maintain this intensity until landfall.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 60 miles (95 km) from the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 150 miles (240 km). Fajardo recently reported sustained winds of 79 mph (128 km/h) with a gust to 100 mph (161 km/h). The minimum central pressure recently reported by an Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft is 917 mb (27.08 inches).

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Maria dips to a category 4 hurricane
Maria is still an “extremely dangerous” hurricane as it nears Puerto Rico, but it has slightly dipped in intensity and is now classed as a category 4 storm with sustained wind speeds of 155mph, according to the latest update from the US National Hurricane Center (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT5+shtml/200857.shtml).

A Hurricane Warning is still in effect for:


US Virgin Islands
British Virgin Islands
Puerto Rico, Culebra, and Vieques
Dominican Republic from Cabo Engano to Puerto Plata
Turks and Caicos Islands
Southeastern Bahamas


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Virma De Ris
20th September 2017, 14:41
I lost communication with my parents and brother about hour and a half ago. It's 10:30am EST now. My in-laws have been lucky and haven't lost their cellphone signal (yet). They live in the north and are far away from Maria's track. My family is closer to the eye's path, they may actually fall in the eye. Will know once they communicate with me. 😔

Madeira lives farther from my parents but he's getting battered by winds and rain.

This link (https://www.facebook.com/keila.l.cruz/posts/10155235655374690) will take you to a video from a Facebook post that was on my feed. Guayama is a town located close to where the eye entered the island. It's bad. I'm just praying that the damages are not so catastrophic because the island isn't doing good already.

Seeing the destruction from afar is quite maddening. Me and my husband are trying to keep calm.

anandacate
20th September 2017, 14:52
A 49-minute video of a person reporting his experiences while helping with rescue in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey in Texas.

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Noelle
20th September 2017, 15:07
I lost communication with my parents and brother about hour and a half ago. It's 10:30am EST now. My in-laws have been lucky and haven't lost their cellphone signal (yet). They live in the north and are far away from Maria's track. My family is closer to the eye's path, they may actually fall in the eye. Will know once they communicate with me. 😔

Madeira lives farther from my parents but he's getting battered by winds and rain.

This link (https://www.facebook.com/keila.l.cruz/posts/10155235655374690) will take you to a video from a Facebook post that was on my feed. Guayama is a town located close to where the eye entered the island. It's bad. I'm just praying that the damages are not so catastrophic because the island isn't doing good already.

Seeing the destruction from afar is quite maddening. Me and my husband are trying to keep calm.

It's unbelievable. My husband's mother, grandmother and uncle live in Bayamon. Very worried about them. Please keep us updated if possible. The safety of you and others in Maria's path are in my thoughts.

Foxie Loxie
20th September 2017, 16:42
Thanks so much, anandacate, for letting us know what is REALLY happening in Texas & how our gov't. operates in emergencies. :frusty:

Foxie Loxie
21st September 2017, 11:23
Madeira & Virma De Ris....it's hard to imagine the devastation Puerto Rico has taken! Our hearts & prayers are with you. Just heard on The W. Channel it will be 4-6 months to get power back on. What a disaster!! :facepalm::heart:

Virma De Ris
21st September 2017, 13:32
Reporting here for those who can't. I had a chance to communicate with my parents and brother. They're doing fine. There's damage to their home but nothing that would severely impact their quality of life. My husband also communicated with his parents, they're also doing fine. With that said, I have to add that we haven't heard from all of them since yesterday evening.

The eye of Maria has left the island but there's tons of rainfall. Some areas have seen up to 18” of rain, might be more. I've seen the damages in social media outlets like Facebook. You can use the link provided and see for yourselves (https://es-la.facebook.com/tmcaribe/). It's bad, really bad. Kind of reminds me of a mix between the Harvey floods and Irma’s destruction. We've confirmed with my husband’s parents that indeed the entire island is 100% without power. This has never happened since Puerto Rico had electricity. There was a hurricane in 1928, the San Felipe, and that one caused major destruction in the island. This one is far worse than San Felipe. We haven't heard from other family members or friends at all. The south (from southeast through southwest) doesn't have communications at all. There have been reports of mudslides in the south. People outside of PR are desperate. It's quite maddening, really.

I haven't heard from Madeira yet. I texted his wife (we grew up together—how small is the world, right?) but she never answered my text. Their house, as far as I know, isn't near the river, and that's good because their town has gotten around 15” of rain. All rivers and bodies of water have overflowed and are running through the streets. Some dams had to be opened which means that neighborhoods will be flooded. The surge from the coasts got deep inside. My dad owns a business near the beach in the south-southeast of the island. I don't know if he lost the building or not (and he just finished remodeling the place this past June).

There's going to be lots of financial ruin in an already financially ruined land. I live in Central Florida and did find out that the eye of Irma went over my neighborhood as Cat 2. We were extremely lucky that we didn't have serious damage (just a few shingles in the roof were blown away). It will be our job to help our families by offering them our house. Yes, the island is facing months of not having power (and running water). They say is between 3-6 months but it can be more than that. They need to send people from the USA to help since the electricity infrastructure has collapsed. Workers are busy with Texas and Florida (and Georgia). This just plainly sucks. The good thing is that Puerto Ricans are stubborn to boot. The people will stand up and rebuild. Puerto Rican's, like us, living outside of the island will help economically. We already begun

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I lost communication with my parents and brother about hour and a half ago. It's 10:30am EST now. My in-laws have been lucky and haven't lost their cellphone signal (yet). They live in the north and are far away from Maria's track. My family is closer to the eye's path, they may actually fall in the eye. Will know once they communicate with me. 😔

Madeira lives farther from my parents but he's getting battered by winds and rain.

This link (https://www.facebook.com/keila.l.cruz/posts/10155235655374690) will take you to a video from a Facebook post that was on my feed. Guayama is a town located close to where the eye entered the island. It's bad. I'm just praying that the damages are not so catastrophic because the island isn't doing good already.

Seeing the destruction from afar is quite maddening. Me and my husband are trying to keep calm.

It's unbelievable. My husband's mother, grandmother and uncle live in Bayamon. Very worried about them. Please keep us updated if possible. The safety of you and others in Maria's path are in my thoughts.

I lived in Bayamón. The town gets flooded easily. I have family living there too and haven't heard from them yet. I hope your husband's family is doing fine. I've seen pictures and videos from neighboring Guaynabo and it's bad.

Foxie Loxie
21st September 2017, 13:44
Thanks for the update, Virma De Ris. What has happened there is unimaginable!!

For anyone who hasn't viewed it, please go to the video anandacate posted on this thread. It gives one a true picture of what goes on during these disasters. The earthquakes in Mexico are horrific as well. :facepalm:

norman
21st September 2017, 14:02
I'm guessing TargeT got hit pretty bad ?

Foxie Loxie
21st September 2017, 14:09
Apparently, as we haven't heard from him yet. :silent:

Noelle
21st September 2017, 14:37
Reporting here for those who can't. I had a chance to communicate with my parents and brother. They're doing fine. There's damage to their home but nothing that would severely impact their quality of life. My husband also communicated with his parents, they're also doing fine. With that said, I have to add that we haven't heard from all of them since yesterday evening.

The eye of Maria has left the island but there's tons of rainfall. Some areas have seen up to 18” of rain, might be more. I've seen the damages in social media outlets like Facebook. You can use the link provided and see for yourselves (https://es-la.facebook.com/tmcaribe/). It's bad, really bad. Kind of reminds me of a mix between the Harvey floods and Irma’s destruction. We've confirmed with my husband’s parents that indeed the entire island is 100% without power. This has never happened since Puerto Rico had electricity. There was a hurricane in 1928, the San Felipe, and that one caused major destruction in the island. This one is far worse than San Felipe. We haven't heard from other family members or friends at all. The south (from southeast through southwest) doesn't have communications at all. There have been reports of mudslides in the south. People outside of PR are desperate. It's quite maddening, really.

I haven't heard from Madeira yet. I texted his wife (we grew up together—how small is the world, right?) but she never answered my text. Their house, as far as I know, isn't near the river, and that's good because their town has gotten around 15” of rain. All rivers and bodies of water have overflowed and are running through the streets. Some dams had to be opened which means that neighborhoods will be flooded. The surge from the coasts got deep inside. My dad owns a business near the beach in the south-southeast of the island. I don't know if he lost the building or not (and he just finished remodeling the place this past June).

There's going to be lots of financial ruin in an already financially ruined land. I live in Central Florida and did find out that the eye of Irma went over my neighborhood as Cat 2. We were extremely lucky that we didn't have serious damage (just a few shingles in the roof were blown away). It will be our job to help our families by offering them our house. Yes, the island is facing months of not having power (and running water). They say is between 3-6 months but it can be more than that. They need to send people from the USA to help since the electricity infrastructure has collapsed. Workers are busy with Texas and Florida (and Georgia). This just plainly sucks. The good thing is that Puerto Ricans are stubborn to boot. The people will stand up and rebuild. Puerto Rican's, like us, living outside of the island will help economically. We already begun

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I lost communication with my parents and brother about hour and a half ago. It's 10:30am EST now. My in-laws have been lucky and haven't lost their cellphone signal (yet). They live in the north and are far away from Maria's track. My family is closer to the eye's path, they may actually fall in the eye. Will know once they communicate with me. 😔

Madeira lives farther from my parents but he's getting battered by winds and rain.

This link (https://www.facebook.com/keila.l.cruz/posts/10155235655374690) will take you to a video from a Facebook post that was on my feed. Guayama is a town located close to where the eye entered the island. It's bad. I'm just praying that the damages are not so catastrophic because the island isn't doing good already.

Seeing the destruction from afar is quite maddening. Me and my husband are trying to keep calm.

It's unbelievable. My husband's mother, grandmother and uncle live in Bayamon. Very worried about them. Please keep us updated if possible. The safety of you and others in Maria's path are in my thoughts.

I lived in Bayamón. The town gets flooded easily. I have family living there too and haven't heard from them yet. I hope your husband's family is doing fine. I've seen pictures and videos from neighboring Guaynabo and it's bad.

I am trying very hard to "hold the pole" with my emotions, but my heart sank a mile while reading your post. Thank you for the updates and what you offered about Bayamon. My husband said his family does not live near a river, but who knows. He could be mistaken. Continue to be safe.

Bubu
21st September 2017, 19:05
Mods,
can we please have this thread on the home page till the worst is over so that everyone can see it, be reminded and able to send their prayers to our friends out there.

Thanks

justntime2learn
21st September 2017, 21:41
TargeT owes me a visit and I'm holding him to it :heart:

Still praying for all and their families.

TargeT
21st September 2017, 23:37
When I go out side it looks like I live somewhere-else, every tree is stripped of leaves (only about 1/3 of the trees actually got knocked down, most just lost big branches), some have their bark stripped off, we were getting gusts of 176mph before the wind meters broke off their stations and quit reporting.

I lost small parts of my roof and 5 solar panels (they landed with in about an 800 foot radius of my house, it was kind of a fun scavenger hunt). Our house got minor flooding and the property has a lot more dirt in some areas from run off. All of our fences are compromised but none of the horses were injured or missing (surprisingly). Almost all of my gutters are gone so I can't collect rain water until I fix that (which will be a priority, that's what I water the horses with). Our pigs made it through the storm and we have this poor humming bird that keeps circling our property looking for flowers (all of those are gone).

I'm still trying to processes it all, apparently we should plan to be with out power for a few months, but stores will be open as soon as the curfew is lifted, so that's a good thing.

there is one cell tower left on the island (well the bottom half of it is still there) so we get some service if you know where to drive, no internet (My modem was full of water when I plugged it in today.. doubt that thing will work again.. haha, I dumped a good half cup of water out of it after the sparks flew...).





Mostly I'm worried about the horses, we were only able to care for them because of the money we got from tourists taking horse-back-tours; I don't think that will be happening again for a while (maybe sooner than I think? hopefully?) so I need to figure out a way to pay for all the horse expenses.




I've got some video of before, during, and after; I'll see if I can get it uploaded tonight (I'm at work, we have internet). The concrete walls of my house were shuddering and vibrating; that was a pretty crazy experience with the "bad winds" lasting for about 6 hours, and my entire family was playing "guess what that noise was from" every few min...

It could be worse, my solar system was damaged somewhat but still keeps the fridges cool for about 10 hours a day (which is a huge bonus, storing food is one of the more important issues for most people now) and lets us run fans and the water pump (to water the horses, take showers etc..) I also have a generator if I need power at night (solar batteries don't last more than 2 hours after sun down) so I'm not as bad off as some people.

Looks like it's going to be an interesting next few months.

norman
21st September 2017, 23:50
Whaw !... that's the post I was really waiting for, Target. Glad you got through it more or less in one piece.

Noelle
22nd September 2017, 00:09
I am thrilled to hear that you and your family survived -- and with limited damage to your property. Why don't you set up a Go Fund me account to help raise funds for the horses, and then post it here on Avalon and every other place that you can.

TargeT
22nd September 2017, 00:48
I am thrilled to hear that you and your family survived -- and with limited damage to your property. Why don't you set up a Go Fund me account to help raise funds for the horses, and then post it here on Avalon and every other place that you can.

as soon as we are done moving trees, fixing fences etc.. we will do a fund raiser, definitely. Until this point I've been pretty proud of the fact that we are mostly a self funded rescue; but that's probably not going to be the case in the future if we can keep this going.

RunningDeer
22nd September 2017, 01:05
Why don't you set up a Go Fund me account to help raise funds for the horses, and then post it here on Avalon and every other place that you can.
In the meantime, here is Target’s family horse rescue page with PayPal @ bottom - CruzanCowgirls.com (http://www.cruzancowgirls.com/cruzan_cowgirls_horse_rescue/)

CruzanCowgirls YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/user/CruzanCowgirls/videos)


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