Attn: all sufferers of PTSD - ecstasy

[Chester]

All clear for the decisive trial of ecstasy in PTSD patients (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/all-clear-decisive-trial-ecstasy-ptsd-patients)


One of the main targets in the war on drugs could well become a drug to treat the scars of war. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has designated 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), better known as the illegal drug ecstasy, a "breakthrough therapy" for posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a status that may lead to faster approval.

The agency has also approved the design for two phase III studies of MDMA for PTSD that would be funded by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), a nonprofit in Santa Cruz, California. MAPS announced the "breakthrough therapy" designation, made by FDA on 16 August, on its website today; if the group can find the money for the trials, which together could cost an estimated $25 million, they may start next spring and finish by 2021.

That an illegal dancefloor drug could become a promising pharmaceutical is another indication that the efforts of a dedicated group of researchers interested in the medicinal properties of mind-altering drugs is paying dividends. Stringent drug laws have stymied research on these compounds for decades. "This is not a big scientific step," says David Nutt, a neuropsychopharmacologist at Imperial College London. "It’s been obvious for 40 years that these drugs are medicines. But it’s a huge step in acceptance."

[Harley]

Drugs Drugs Drugs. That's all we need is more drugs.

I guess they're not rich enough yet, huh?

And besides, can you just imagine the sight of a 65 year old veteran on Ecstasy at the local night club?

:dancing::bowing::ROFL:

[Jayke]

Drugs Drugs Drugs. That's all we need is more drugs.

I guess they're not rich enough yet, huh?

And besides, can you just imagine the sight of a 65 year old veteran on Ecstasy at the local night club?

:dancing::bowing::ROFL:

Lmao they were promoting magic mushrooms for anxiety a couple years ago, didn't turn out too well for a close friend of mine.

Drugs can either be a shortcut or a last resort, always good to have a back up plan though...

There's actually a congress being put together by the worlds top PTSD psychologists, for those interested in the underlying mechanics of how PTSD comes about...

https://www.wisemindus.com

Peter Levine has some great insights, his book in an unspoken voice (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unspoken-Voice-Releases-Restores-Goodness/dp/1556439431) is exceptional.

[justntime2learn]

Drugs Drugs Drugs. That's all we need is more drugs.

I guess they're not rich enough yet, huh?

And besides, can you just imagine the sight of a 65 year old veteran on Ecstasy at the local night club?

:dancing::bowing::ROFL:

You crack me up Harley :bigsmile:

I suffer from PTSD and I can see how magic mushrooms would lesson my anxiety, but I wouldn't get much done LOL.

I'm such a conspiracy analyst.

Could this be some marketing ploy aimed at the adolescence for repeat customers? There's a lot of kids taking Molly nowadays so this could be good justification in one's mind to use. How many would medicate themselves without the supervision of a doctor?

When I was in grade school the local police would come and do a presentation on street drugs and marijuana. I remember learning smoking marijuana would make you sterile but that " knowledge" didn't Slow Me Down when I was older. btw, I have eight children!

Much love :heart:

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Drugs Drugs Drugs. That's all we need is more drugs.

I guess they're not rich enough yet, huh?

And besides, can you just imagine the sight of a 65 year old veteran on Ecstasy at the local night club?

:dancing::bowing::ROFL:

Lmao they were promoting magic mushrooms for anxiety a couple years ago, didn't turn out too well for a close friend of mine.

Drugs can either be a shortcut or a last resort, always good to have a back up plan though...

There's actually a congress being put together by the worlds top PTSD psychologists, for those interested in the underlying mechanics of how PTSD comes about...

https://www.wisemindus.com

Peter Levine has some great insights, his book in an unspoken voice (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unspoken-Voice-Releases-Restores-Goodness/dp/1556439431) is exceptional.

Additionally Bessell Van Der Kolk, MD (a psychiatrist) with a complex PTSD treatment center in Boston is also a world authority. His book, "The Body Keeps the Score" (2014) is quite fine.

[happyuk]

I have also heard of ecstasy being considered as a possible treatment for rape victims, but I remain sceptical of many drug treatments.

Drugs, like television have a satanic effect. Grossly inferior intoxicants stimulate the senses, obliterate reason, and bring spiritual, physical and moral degradation. The life force and consciousness become engrossed in body consciousness and as a result easily become habit forming.

The temptation of alcohol and sensual indulgence serve to delude people with counterfeit substitutes for the satisfying bliss of found in deep meditation. True spiritual experiences come from purifying rituals, not from ingesting substances. Drugs do not offer a shortcut to ego transcendence.

Yes, drugs do sometimes open a person to the idea of expanded states of consciousness. But the same drugs can also bring on frightening experiences ("bad trips"), even psychotic states. So those who have a spiritual experience from drugs are tapping in to their own "samscars" (latent tendencies). The drug itself is neutral.

No true saint, master, holy scripture has ever suggested that enlightenment can come through anything but self-effort.

When Jesus Christ was asked how to tell a true prophet from a false prophet, he answered, "By their fruits ye shall know them.". This is a surefire way to evaluate anything that in itself is difficult to examine. Drug experiences by their very nature are subjective, so the only way to evaluate them is by their long-term effect. Drug users have a kind of confused aura around them, not the clarity and ferocious will power that characterises a saint.

The long term effect of drug use is to weaken the will power. Drugs teach you to measure spiritual progress in terms of experiences, while true progress is measured by increasing inner freedom. Therefore dependence on drugs gives you the opposite of freedom.

With drugs you get the impression that a great deal is taking place in consciousness, when in fact, nothing is changing but your body chemistry. Spiritual life is about giving. Drugs are about getting. It is simply the wrong direction.

And even all this doesn’t even take into account the fact that you have no idea what the drug itself might be doing to your brain in the long run. It seems foolhardy to conduct experiments on your brain that could in the end prove disastrous.

[The Freedom Train]

I have also heard of ecstasy being considered as a possible treatment for rape victims, but I remain sceptical of many drug treatments.

Drugs, like television have a satanic effect. Grossly inferior intoxicants stimulate the senses, obliterate reason, and bring spiritual, physical and moral degradation. The life force and consciousness become engrossed in body consciousness and as a result easily become habit forming.

The temptation of alcohol and sensual indulgence serve to delude people with counterfeit substitutes for the satisfying bliss of found in deep meditation. True spiritual experiences come from purifying rituals, not from ingesting substances. Drugs do not offer a shortcut to ego transcendence.

Yes, drugs do sometimes open a person to the idea of expanded states of consciousness. But the same drugs can also bring on frightening experiences ("bad trips"), even psychotic states. So those who have a spiritual experience from drugs are tapping in to their own "samscars" (latent tendencies). The drug itself is neutral.

No true saint, master, holy scripture has ever suggested that enlightenment can come through anything but self-effort.

When Jesus Christ was asked how to tell a true prophet from a false prophet, he answered, "By their fruits ye shall know them.". This is a surefire way to evaluate anything that in itself is difficult to examine. Drug experiences by their very nature are subjective, so the only way to evaluate them is by their long-term effect. Drug users have a kind of confused aura around them, not the clarity and ferocious will power that characterises a saint.

The long term effect of drug use is to weaken the will power. Drugs teach you to measure spiritual progress in terms of experiences, while true progress is measured by increasing inner freedom. Therefore dependence on drugs gives you the opposite of freedom.

With drugs you get the impression that a great deal is taking place in consciousness, when in fact, nothing is changing but your body chemistry. Spiritual life is about giving. Drugs are about getting. It is simply the wrong direction.

And even all this doesn’t even take into account the fact that you have no idea what the drug itself might be doing to your brain in the long run. It seems foolhardy to conduct experiments on your brain that could in the end prove disastrous.

Fantastic.