I suspect the shadow government is purposefully fulfilling bible prophecy.

[Jayren]

Hi all my name is Jayren, I'm coming to you today because of a post I saw on Facebook, we all know that the government has the capabilities to wage weather warfare, it's been publicly released and documented in Vietnam. I didn't know if Hurricane Harvey was a naturally caused even or an artificial created event, but I heard that the hurricane took out a chemical plant evacuating anyone in the area, and I also heard that a lot of oil production in that area will be shut down because of the hurricane. And as I was getting read to type this the news came on and we are about to see "sky rocketing oil prices".

So I'm not really sure how this Hurricane can benefit them but the truth will come to light as it always does. I also wanted to touch base on the dates... Now it is true that after the eclipse on the 21st, Hurricane Harvey hit Texas HARD on the 25th... Then on the 26th that's when it started flooding.

Now if you look up Luke 21:25-26 in the Bible you'll here Luke describing the solar eclipse that just happened recently and the Hurricane that just happened, now the question. Is this nature corresponding to bible prophecy exactly , I mean how often do coincidences like this happen? We've been here long enough to know that things don't really just happen for no reason, there's always a reason as to why something has happened , its better to say that this coincides with something then to call it a coincidence. Some could say that it's god, but me I think the shadow government is purposefully fulfilling prophecies themselves, what is the agenda behind this? I mean if we look through time and go back to Christianity , when the Bible came out the church wasn't as popular then because people could just read the Bible but you got to go to church to be forgiven for your sins. But after the Bible the something called the black pope was created that few people know about till this day, I'm not gonna go to deep into that, instead I'll let you do your own research into that.

My intuition is telling me that this Hurricane is manmade, and they also specifically made the calculations to MAKE SURE that it happened like Luke said in the Bible, the explode yea that happens naturally but they targeted that specific date afterwards to do all these things like Hurricane Harvey and there's another one on its way. So for someone who controls religion and the rest of this world it wouldn't be hard for them to do what they did with the type of technology they possess. That's my take on this whole situation , I would love to hear other people connect the dots.

[mojo]

My intuition is telling me that this Hurricane is manmade

Its a great question to consider... In Dr Judy Woods book, "Where did the Towers Go?" she dedicates a whole chapter on Hurricane Erin which hardly anyone knows about in terms of how it impacts 911. Dr Woods Woods mentions that Hurricane Erin data suggests weather manipulation.

[Curious77]

mojo --

We very definitely have manipulation of weather -- from Chemtrails to moving hurricanes around, it seems.

Elites will aim to manipulate everything they can, including Mind Control of humans.
See: MKULTRA

Aside from the Biblical stuff, are there any guesses at what purpose they might have
moved Erin in to serve?

There's always an "abort" available -- would Erin have had something to do with that?

In many of the "false flag" events that we see, there is always a back-up training exercise
of some kind going on.

We saw this in 9/11 where the "training exercise" for cover up was widespread.
Cheney had been put in charge of every/the world by W at the time of 9/11.
Norad's planes were sent to Alaska to watch Russia and also to Southern states (as I recall).

We saw these same training programs with Sandy Hook, with Boston Marathon and with JFK
assassination where Cabinet members and other officials were sent up in airplanes headed for
Japan and Hawaii -- and as I recall it, it was Robert Bennett/R-Utah who at that time was
either a Senator or a Rep. who was in control of the "abort," if needed.

So what's the guess on the purpose of Erin?

[Noelle]

I don't know if there is a connection to what's being discussed in this thread, but I think it's odd that NASA began its sonic boom testing here on Florida's Space Coast on the day of the eclipse.

[Curious77]

Well, yeah, the right wing is very fond of Kabuki, but to think of them as
in any way truly "Christian" or honest men would be delusional.
These are criminals, murderers.

So, yes -- they will use any thing they can from the Bible to number schemes --
33 is a favorite I believe from Mormons/Freemasons?

But, in the JFK coup you can also see the love of #33 ....
11/22 is a 33, for instance.

You also, however, have to look at the planning.
It was a Friday about noon when the shooting began and needless to say most businesses closed down early.
Probably we were all on our way home by 2:30 or so.
My first thought was fascism and probably a lot of other people were thinking the same thing, but probably feeling alone in those thoughts.
We didn't know how much we were all thinking alike at the time.
A lot of suspicion around LBJ, but he made it to the White House nonetheless.
And, a lot of LBJ's murderous history wasn't known at that time by Americans.
But back to the calendar --

The TV reports went on all night Friday and all day Saturday.
Saturday 11/23, we got to see and HEAR Lee Harvey Oswald.
That turned out to be a big problem for the conspirators because they were
planning to use a recording of him at the Russian Embassy which wouldn't
have sounded like him at all. And we had seen LHO and heard him speak.

On Sunday, 11/24, Oswald was to be transferred to another location, but
instead he was shot by Jack Ruby. And it became clear to everyone by then
that this was something much more than we were being led to believe.

The events of Saturday and Sunday which concerned LHO probably weren't
intended to exist. Don't think they were planning for Oswald to live past the
22nd and it seems he was to be captured/killed in the theater that afternoon.
Just didn't happen that way and Jack Ruby was forced into duty.
From what I've read, the lives of Ruby's sister and brother were threatened if
Ruby didn't carry out the murder. But, it looks like some extra time was
allowed in the planning for clean ups like this. None of these assassinations are
carried out perfectly, but they can rely on a cover up -- and of course murder of
witnesses.

Monday the 25th of November was JFK's funeral -- and Thursday the 28th
was Thanksgiving.

Needless to say, the conspirators also were counting on our SHOCK lasting long
enough for us not to be asking any hard questions.
Mark Lane however began asking some hard questions and soon after wrote a
book called "Rush to Judgment."

Margueritte Oswald, the Mother of Lee Harvey Oswald, woke us up by claiming that LHO was working with the CIA. Many years later, the Tunheim Panel set up under
the 1992 JFK Assassination Classified Records Act Review ordered by Pres. Bill Clinton found unanimously that ...

"OWALD WAS EMPLOYED BY THE CIA WORKING ON HIGH LEVEL
ASSIGNMENS AND PROBABLY ALSO FOR THE FBI."

And there were many documents and records to support that finding.
But you won't find any record of it because Chair John Tunheim reported the results of the Panel's finding to a limited number of members of the Senate/Congress about the time that Clinton was being impeached for the Lewinsky affair.

Also, though John Tunheim stated this in a History/Discovery Channel documentary ... TWICE ... as the text appeared below on the screen, the program which was made during the time that they were calling themselves "The Network for the New Millennia" was confiscated upon an alarm sent up by former Pres. Carter to Bill Moyers, former Pres. Jerry Ford and the Lady Bird Johnson. Seemingly, all record of it has been erased.

Since the coup on JFK, only those directly involved in the conspiracy or the cover up have reached the White House -- LBJ, Nixon, Ford, (Carter), (Reagan), GHWBush, (Clinton), (W Bush), (Obama), (Trump) ...

Carter is always a question, but a big question.
Reagan seemed distantly involved in giving approval to the coup.
Of course, GHW Bush was involved.
W Bush would have been about 17 at the time of the coup on JFK as he was
born July 6, 1946.
If Trump isn't a fascist, neither was Hitler.

Many of these men seem to have deep connections to the CIA and its corruptions.
See: MKULTRA Mind Control

[Bill Ryan]

Regarding Luke's 'prophecy', it reads:




There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.
That could — at a stretch — apply to ANY natural disaster (and/or eclipse) in the last 2,000 years. And there have been a LOT of those.

Regarding the supposed numerical alignments, Luke himself didn't arrange the verses. That was all carefully edited (with a ton of stuff edited out) several centuries later.

And since those times, the introduction of the Gregorian calendar changed all the dates: September 2, 1752 was followed by September 14, 1752, and 11 days were dropped out as an astronomical correction.

(Aside: there were riots in the streets, with people clamoring: "Give us back our 11 days!!" They really thought 11 days had been stolen from their lives.)

My suggestion: this is more nonsense. There have been countless FAR FAR greater disasters in the last 2,000 years than this, anyway. To presume otherwise is a kind of Americo-centrism reflected in the huge attention on the recent solar eclipse... which happens pretty regularly everywhere else in the world every year or two, but few Americans know or care about those other events. (Not an insult. It's just true!)

[Tam]

Thank you! You elucidated on pretty much everything I thought, including the American-centrism.

One thing that was interesting, however, is that I saw a number of unmarked black helicopters the day of the Eclipse in my area, something I had never seen before.

[Bubu]

when your consider that they manipulated or invented the bible and place themselves in place of gods then it makes perfect sense.

[TrumanCash]

From my research I concluded that the elitists were intentionally manipulating religious beliefs that the Anunnaki, Mantids, etc had created to keep mankind in spiritual darkness.

1) I read a book that was endorsed by the Rockefeller family that told of David and Allen Dulles meeting after church on Sundays to discuss controlling religious beliefs. It was not stated what exactly they were wanting to control.

2) Aaron Russo reported that his friend Nick Rockefeller told him that their end goal was to create a cashless world wherein everyone would be chipped, which would directly correspond to chapter 13 of Revelations.

3) Congress passed US Code Title 42, Section 666, which was passed under the guise of "deadbeat dads" but actually forces a voluntary social security number on everyone in the US.

[Foxie Loxie]

Bill...loved the phrase "Americo-centrism". That is SO true!! :clapping: I remember back in the 1960's a person newly arrived from Spain asked me why the event was called "The World Series" when only teams from the U.S. were playing!! :nod:

[Mandala]

Being in South Florida, I'm interested in seeing where Irma is headed and at what strength. We should know on 9-11 we have been informed. Is September 23rd supposed to be of any importance with another celestial prophesied event? I just ride the waves and prepare the best I can.

[Mandala]

Maybe instead of Bible prophecy, it is their strategy to weaken us in various areas and make us more dependent on them. Produce chaos in strategic areas makes it so much easier to enforce martial law and reliance on the government.

[Kindred]

FWIW; While I cannot immediately find the citations, I do remember Jane Robert's 'Seth' discussed the fact that at least one of the Bible's books was an 'insert', probably from the time of the Council of Nicaea (~325 AD), or possibly a later rendition. I also remember reading somewhere that 'Revelations' was an insert, possibly by the Jesuits, or the Knights of Malta. It would stand to reason that this insertion would be the basis by which later actions could be taken which would then be seen to 'fulfill' biblical prophecy.

Just a thought...

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I suspect that the manipulators and control freaks, physical and not, use ancient prophecy to create a specific scenario. The more people that fix their attention on an event, positive or negative, the more likely the materialization of that event. Group think is rumored to be powerful, more powerful than the sum of the components.
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[Yetti]

Mojo, I don't think the hurricane was man made, but i think it was steered as a weapon to station on the coast ans cause the damage we all saw. who benefit this? Many, banks ,construction company's , and also keep people focused one way meanwhile in the other 359 degr, the sky can fall and nobody notice .... you get the point? of course it's just my personal opinion...

[Ernie Nemeth]

Jayren. Are we really still leafing through an ancient book looking for prophecy and trying to tie it to current events? Come on, I thought we were beyond such superstition. The answers are not in a book, especially not that one.

[Foxie Loxie]

If one has written the "script", fulfillment of "prophecy" is quite simple!! :Angel:

[daviddjg23]

Didnt the American government have a plan of projecting a image of jesus in cuba to allow panic so they could get castro ??

Sure was somthing like that so it shows they have used biblical ideas to suit their own ends at least in planning before.

Nothing would suprise me today people say the elites wanted to leave America in ruin and go play their games in India and China.
maybe this is still there plan in which case id expect somthing to happen or maybe lots of little things.

Maybe they will go straight to the fake alien invasion !!!!!
To be fair i dont know how a psychotic satan worshipper thinks so i wouldnt know!!:Angel:

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Hi all my name is Jayren, I'm coming to you today because of a post I saw on Facebook, we all know that the government has the capabilities to wage weather warfare, it's been publicly released and documented in Vietnam. I didn't know if Hurricane Harvey was a naturally caused even or an artificial created event, but I heard that the hurricane took out a chemical plant evacuating anyone in the area, and I also heard that a lot of oil production in that area will be shut down because of the hurricane. And as I was getting read to type this the news came on and we are about to see "sky rocketing oil prices".

So I'm not really sure how this Hurricane can benefit them but the truth will come to light as it always does. I also wanted to touch base on the dates... Now it is true that after the eclipse on the 21st, Hurricane Harvey hit Texas HARD on the 25th... Then on the 26th that's when it started flooding.

Now if you look up Luke 21:25-26 in the Bible you'll here Luke describing the solar eclipse that just happened recently and the Hurricane that just happened, now the question. Is this nature corresponding to bible prophecy exactly , I mean how often do coincidences like this happen? We've been here long enough to know that things don't really just happen for no reason, there's always a reason as to why something has happened , its better to say that this coincides with something then to call it a coincidence. Some could say that it's god, but me I think the shadow government is purposefully fulfilling prophecies themselves, what is the agenda behind this? I mean if we look through time and go back to Christianity , when the Bible came out the church wasn't as popular then because people could just read the Bible but you got to go to church to be forgiven for your sins. But after the Bible the something called the black pope was created that few people know about till this day, I'm not gonna go to deep into that, instead I'll let you do your own research into that.

My intuition is telling me that this Hurricane is manmade, and they also specifically made the calculations to MAKE SURE that it happened like Luke said in the Bible, the explode yea that happens naturally but they targeted that specific date afterwards to do all these things like Hurricane Harvey and there's another one on its way. So for someone who controls religion and the rest of this world it wouldn't be hard for them to do what they did with the type of technology they possess. That's my take on this whole situation , I would love to hear other people connect the dots.

Here's another dot for you to connect. Assuming everything you saw on the Facebook post was true, what do we behaviorally do about it (other than pray, spread the message, or wake up others)?

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Here's another dot for you to connect. Assuming everything you saw on the Facebook post was true, what do we behaviorally do about it (other than pray, spread the message, or wake up others)?

I feel that this helps:

Spreading the word can be helpful if it does not create fear.

Meditate and follow your intuition for inspired action, not fear motivated action. Negative emotions of fear, hate, revenge, etc. feed the dark side. When you discover what you do not want, you automatically should know what you do want. Focus on what you do want, pretend you already have it. That procedure is called a pivot. Make a list of things you appreciate.

I like to use this Planetary Cleansing Visualization (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=3611). Especially powerful done in a group setting.

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[Bubu]

Here's another dot for you to connect. Assuming everything you saw on the Facebook post was true, what do we behaviorally do about it (other than pray, spread the message, or wake up others)?

I feel that this helps:

Spreading the word can be helpful if it does not create fear.

Meditate and follow your intuition for inspired action, not fear motivated action. Negative emotions of fear, hate, revenge, etc. feed the dark side. When you discover what you do not want, you automatically should know what you do want. Focus on what you do want, pretend you already have it. That procedure is called a pivot. Make a list of things you appreciate.

I like to use this Planetary Cleansing Visualization (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=3611). Especially powerful done in a group setting.

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couldn't agree more. And before you attempt to know what you want, first go into a place of peace and calmness. A state of fear will only lead you to the false "want"

[Ernie Nemeth]

To play devil's advocate:
There may be another reason why biblical prophecy seems to be playing out right in front of us. It may be that those that actually authored the bible were and still are our masters and that they have had a plan that spans the eons from that time to now. Maybe the plan is at the end game - revelations material.

[GloriaP]

Apparently the same devastation was occurring in Mumbai at the same time but I've yet to see anything on the media about it. A while back I was reading about how Texas, of all the US states, was the best placed to survive the upcoming economic collapse because they are(were) pretty much self sufficient in terms of fuel. My first thought was 'that makes them vulnerable' (to the powers who have demonstrated that they do not want any person or community to be self-sufficient). If total control is the name of the game, they're not going to allow self-sufficiency. So Harvey could have been man-made (entirely within their capabilities with geo-engineering/HAARP) or it may have been an act of nature. I don't know, but I do feel sympathy for everyone affected.

[Foxie Loxie]

Ernie....my point, exactly! The "ones" who have written the script can certainly see that the prophecies are fulfilled! :caked: This point was driven home to me when I listened to the Book of Enoch & found out in one of his "visions" he was describing exactly what we have in the O.T. about Moses going up the mountain, etc.! No wonder The Controllers excluded Enoch from our Bible!

The BIG mistake was that the O.T. was not translated correctly & the plural word "elohim" was written as "God" so we all assumed the "god" of the O.T. was the Creator of All! I have come to the conclusion that is not true. Mauro Biglino has done a great job doing a correct translation. It is a BIG step to finally realize we, the human race, have "controllers"....that is why we have been dumbed down for centuries so we did not know we are actually Eternal Beings & we need not BE controlled! Talk about REAL Freedom!! :dancing:

[Jayren]

Hi all my name is Jayren, I'm coming to you today because of a post I saw on Facebook, we all know that the government has the capabilities to wage weather warfare, it's been publicly released and documented in Vietnam. I didn't know if Hurricane Harvey was a naturally caused even or an artificial created event, but I heard that the hurricane took out a chemical plant evacuating anyone in the area, and I also heard that a lot of oil production in that area will be shut down because of the hurricane. And as I was getting read to type this the news came on and we are about to see "sky rocketing oil prices".

So I'm not really sure how this Hurricane can benefit them but the truth will come to light as it always does. I also wanted to touch base on the dates... Now it is true that after the eclipse on the 21st, Hurricane Harvey hit Texas HARD on the 25th... Then on the 26th that's when it started flooding.

Now if you look up Luke 21:25-26 in the Bible you'll here Luke describing the solar eclipse that just happened recently and the Hurricane that just happened, now the question. Is this nature corresponding to bible prophecy exactly , I mean how often do coincidences like this happen? We've been here long enough to know that things don't really just happen for no reason, there's always a reason as to why something has happened , its better to say that this coincides with something then to call it a coincidence. Some could say that it's god, but me I think the shadow government is purposefully fulfilling prophecies themselves, what is the agenda behind this? I mean if we look through time and go back to Christianity , when the Bible came out the church wasn't as popular then because people could just read the Bible but you got to go to church to be forgiven for your sins. But after the Bible the something called the black pope was created that few people know about till this day, I'm not gonna go to deep into that, instead I'll let you do your own research into that.

My intuition is telling me that this Hurricane is manmade, and they also specifically made the calculations to MAKE SURE that it happened like Luke said in the Bible, the explode yea that happens naturally but they targeted that specific date afterwards to do all these things like Hurricane Harvey and there's another one on its way. So for someone who controls religion and the rest of this world it wouldn't be hard for them to do what they did with the type of technology they possess. That's my take on this whole situation , I would love to hear other people connect the dots.

Here's another dot for you to connect. Assuming everything you saw on the Facebook post was true, what do we behaviorally do about it (other than pray, spread the message, or wake up others)?


You do whatever your heart tells you, but do not let fear lead the way.

[Mari]

I suspect that the manipulators and control freaks, physical and not, use ancient prophecy to create a specific scenario. The more people that fix their attention on an event, positive or negative, the more likely the materialization of that event. Group think is rumored to be powerful, more powerful than the sum of the components.
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Spot on! I believe that's exactly what's going on. The amount of coverage here in the UK of Irma leads me to think that there's a 'disempowering' agenda also - good old fashioned fear-porn to lower our vibration & stall our evolution.

There are so many who buy into all of this - that's the scary bit! :facepalm:

[sigma6]

I don't think this is about increasing the price of oil, I don't think that fits the bigger picture... although I do agree to a great extent the PTB are very well read on Biblical text and absolutely use it as a social lever of control... however as far as economics and geopolitics goes... the US wants as much oil production as possible and intends to keep oil prices down for a plethora of factors, the main ones being; benefits US production, US/Saudi oil covenant is either completely gone (i.e. oil for treasuries...) or on it's way out... (Trump's visit was allay any fears of outright abandonment... but Saudi is no longer under the same level of protection...) Also the low cost of oil is now being used to suppress and control the Saudis and the Russians, the South American BRICS countries... and any other wannabes... as well as retard Syrian and Iraqi efforts at reconstruction as well as tax Iran, etc, etc... I see oil remaining at this level for as long as the US can maintain their production... (years) as far as I can see it... all this while they continue their 'program' in the middle east and look for another angle (excuse the etymological pun : ) ) to maintain geo-political control... Bush was 'right'... i.e. when he claimed "you are either with us, or against us"... with the implicit consequences apparently.... (still the 'Law of Empire') my 2¢...