The Truth about 'Pete' Peterson, David Wilcock, the foreclosure, the dead cats, and GoFundMe

[Bill Ryan]

Moderator note:

61 recent posts were moved to create this new thread, which is important.

Summary so far: (this is written on 7 Sept, 2017, two days after this first post)

1) There is strong reason to believe that Peterson was lying (knowingly) or confabulating (because of some mental incapacity) when he told David Wilcock, reported on the 16 August Jimmy Church interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsBUyEqBgtM), about the presence of armed police, how his belongings including his truck were being seized, and much of it was being bulldozed into a pit. Extract here:


http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_incident_voicemail_August_2017.mp3 (3 mins)

2) It was just a regular foreclosure that had been in process for years. Full documentation here:


http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf

3) As of 24 August, 9 days after Peterson's voicemail message, workers at the house stated they had not yet cleared the house, reported toxic conditions, Peterson had not been there for a while (and was living in Boise, an hour away), and his truck was still there. (See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178319&viewfull=1#post1178319) for the photo.) Not a bulldozer, a pit, or an armed policeman in sight.

4) Close examination of Peterson's testimony causes me personally to suspect that there's a high probability that some of the information he presented in the 2009 Project Camelot interview (http://projectcamelot.org/pete_peterson.html) was inaccurate, exaggerated, or invented. I do not any more believe he was a reliable witness then — and certainly not now.

5) We did not see documentation, his DD214, any devices which he had or had made, never saw his laboratory, and never even visited his house at the time. We did NO due diligence. There is even reason to question (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178268&viewfull=1#post1178268) his educational credentials.

6) In retrospect, this was a huge lapse in proper research. I fully acknowledge my part in this. 8 years later, with the benefit of a great deal of experience, my approach would have been entirely different. We are all on a journey of learning here. I was partially responsible for this inasmuch as Peterson was just so astonishingly convincing. But David Wilcock, Kerry Cassidy and I just took his word for everything he said.

7) There may be serious problems with the GoFundMe campaign (https://www.gofundme.com/help-support-pete-peterson), which to date (7 Sept 2017) has raised $52,751. There is strong reason to believe that little or none of the descriptive text is true.

8) Some supporters who were extremely generous, and had unquestioningly taken David Wilcock and Peterson at their words, may very reasonably be rather unhappy about what has happened.

9) As I stated here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178329&viewfull=1#post1178329):


I'm not saying that David Wilcock has been knowingly complicit in any publicly stated untruth.
I'm not saying there has been any knowingly perpetrated fraud by him or Coco Luau (the GoFundMe campaign organizer) concerning the $52,000+ so far collected for Peterson. (Though something, somewhere, is wrong with that picture.)
I am saying that he was grossly negligent in not fact-checking what he was told (which anyone reading this could have done, and which now has been done) — and in believing, as he often does, everything that 'one of his insiders' tells him.

Please read the whole thread. More information may be forthcoming.

Thanks to all ~ Bill Ryan, 7 Sept 2017

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In post #1479 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1178155&viewfull=1#post1178155) i.e., "Space Jesus Saves : Cults, Corey Goode & Tom Delonge" video @ 25:15 (https://youtu.be/djMNa0UTz9w?t=25m15s), Chris said there’s a funding campaign for a person who recently passed away. He’s probably referring to William Tompkins. Chris continues that the reports say the money went directly to David Wilcock to dispense.

I’m not aware of that campaign. My guess is it's more likely that David is involved with the Pete Peterson Go-Fund-Me (https://www.gofundme.com/help-support-pete-peterson).


PETE PETERSON GoFundMe
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/Pete-Peterson-GFM.jpg



The campaign organizer is stated as Coco Luau, and there's a link on the page about how to send a message.

He or she may have acted in good faith (and very possibly David Wilcock, too). But it strongly appears that little or none of the information in any of the descriptive text is accurate.

Some of it can only be described as totally false. There's documentation on the public record about exactly what happened. It's nothing like what Peterson has said. And David Wilcock never once did his own checking.

No armed police, no bulldozers, no pit. It was a regular foreclosure, ongoing since 2013. And the house, which Peterson hasn't been at for a while, has NOT been cleaned out yet.

It would be up to GoFundMe to determine whether this constitutes some form of fraud or not. It's a potentially serious thing. $52,000 may have been gathered together under someone's false pretenses.

[RunningDeer]

It would be up to GoFundMe to determine whether this constitutes some form of fraud or not. It's a potentially serious thing. $52,000 may have been gathered together under someone's false pretenses.
Thanks, Bill. I'll add two of my recent David Wilcock posts on the topic of his me-me-monEY:

Post One:

It’s beyond words how Wilcock is capitalizing on William Tompkins death. It’s heartless and self-serving. People have got to be wising up to these Paul Bunyan tales.

On the Jimmy Church show, Wilcock said @ 1:47:38 (https://youtu.be/bsBUyEqBgtM?t=1h47m38s):


…all of the things he [Pete Peterson] owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life.


On DivineCosmos.com it's posted (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1218-mega-attack):


David was set to inherit at least a portion of all of these valuables.



http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/Cartoons_Silly/pen-border2.jpg
Post Two:

@ 1:47:38 (https://youtu.be/bsBUyEqBgtM?t=1h47m38s)

David Wilcock: Who in the world would take an elderly war hero like Pete Peterson and want all of the things he owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life.

FFT: Me, me, it’s ALL about me. If Pete Peterson is worth millions, why not sell what he can to pay off debts, reduce overhead, or do whatever it takes to rectify and prevent the situation? IF it’s true that David Wilcock is the sole heir that speaks to his relationship with him. So why didn’t David help his dear friend before he lost everything?

David Wilcock: "...And it’s all being sent to the dump right now. Tomorrow is when it’s going to be done. And it will be crushed by a bulldozer, tomorrow. There’s nothing we can do about it. They’re guarding the site right now with guns and if I or Pete or anyone else goes within one mile of it, we will be arrested…." "…This is happening right now as we’re talking. They are taking stuff out of his house right now and are putting in dumpsters."


bsBUyEqBgtM

[Mike]

Bill do you have any ideas at all why Pete Peterson would add all the bells and whistles to what appears to be a pretty mundane foreclosure???

[avid]

This was so 'drama-queen' desperate 'look-at-me, look-at-me', a sickening Wilcock in full flood of service-to-self, what an utter .... words fail me, but I'm sure others can fill in the blanks 😡

[norman]

It would be up to GoFundMe to determine whether this constitutes some form of fraud or not. It's a potentially serious thing. $52,000 may have been gathered together under someone's false pretenses.




David Wilcock: "...And it’s all being sent to the dump right now. Tomorrow is when it’s going to be done. And it will be crushed by a bulldozer, tomorrow. There’s nothing we can do about it. They’re guarding the site right now with guns and if I or Pete or anyone else goes within one mile of it, we will be arrested…." "…This is happening right now as we’re talking. They are taking stuff out of his house right now and are putting in dumpsters."




That sentence from David Wilcock is quite scary, in a way. If I extrapolate up from that to his huge body of 'work', and assume the same kind of thing is going on there, what's left for real practical consideration ?

Not a lot, I think.

[Bill Ryan]

It would be up to GoFundMe to determine whether this constitutes some form of fraud or not. It's a potentially serious thing. $52,000 may have been gathered together under someone's false pretenses.

David Wilcock: "...And it’s all being sent to the dump right now. Tomorrow is when it’s going to be done. And it will be crushed by a bulldozer, tomorrow. There’s nothing we can do about it. They’re guarding the site right now with guns and if I or Pete or anyone else goes within one mile of it, we will be arrested…." "…This is happening right now as we’re talking. They are taking stuff out of his house right now and are putting in dumpsters."


That sentence from David Wilcock is quite scary, in a way. If I extrapolate up from that to his huge body of 'work', and assume the same kind of thing is going on there, what's left for real practical consideration ?

Not a lot, I think.

Again, that's false. That did not happen.

There was a vast amount of stuff there — including three dead cats. Neighbors described Peterson as a hoarder and stated that he might be mentally unwell.

Pretty sad, and not a joke. The cats had been trapped in the house, and Peterson had not been there for a long time.

2 (two) dumpsters had been filled, as of a couple weeks ago. The workers said there would be 18 (eighteen) more to go. That was AFTER David Wilcock had written the above.

This 43 page document shows the entire thing. No bulldozers. No police. No pit. The process has been ongoing for years.

http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf

http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf

[Shadowself]

So according to this paperwork I think I read 3 to 4 times that the stuff would be put in storage....not a pit! He could after paying the storage fees regain all of his stuff.

Perhaps Wilcock could retrieve his inheritance he's so concerned with by paying the storage!

And how come David did not know about the hoarding? The dead cats? Could it be because he never went to investigate exactly what happened to his close friend Pete?

[RunningDeer]

That sentence from David Wilcock is quite scary, in a way. If I extrapolate up from that to his huge body of 'work', and assume the same kind of thing is going on there, what's left for real practical consideration ?

Not a lot, I think.
From my first video of David Wilcock, I found that more energy was expended trying to get past his non-stop, braggadocio talk than any information I’d glean.

I purchased two of his books figuring it’d be different. Nope. I chucked them out after the CG/DW partnership was cooked up.

[Shadowself]

So he lived in an apartment according to Wilcock for the last year? That means those dead cats were locked in that house for quite some time! OMG! Poor things...

[Shadowself]

We knew that if they ever did start removing items from the home, they were required by law to place them into storage.

We could then repay the costs to recover the items. This would be very well worth it, as certain easily-overlooked items are literally worth millions.

I was set to inherit these items. That is a very key point here. There is nothing else like this on the horizon in my life. This was it.

Pete wanted me to have greater financial stability in the future after all I have done to help him over the years, often when no one else would.
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1218-mega-attack



Well here's your chance David! Get his stuff back...it's your inheritance for all you have done to help him over the years even though you had no idea he was a hoarder and had three dead cats he left behind! Locked in a house to perish!

[Chester]

So he lived in an apartment according to Wilcock for the last year? That means those dead cats were locked in that house for quite some time! OMG! Poor things...

Isn't that subject to charges for "animal cruelty"?

[norman]

So he lived in an apartment according to Wilcock for the last year? That means those dead cats were locked in that house for quite some time! OMG! Poor things...

Isn't that subject to charges for "animal cruelty"?

Probably not if he has proof he was mentally ill at the time.

[Kristin]

David should have gotten off his butt, flown there, and helped out with the situation even years ago. Yes, he would have gotten his hands dirty. But if it's that important, he should have been there to find out for himself and to aid his friend. This did not just suddenly happen.

[Mike]

If Pete Peterson is mentally unwell, it makes me wonder how long he has been mentally unwell for. Taking it a step further, I wonder if he was mentally unwell when he supposedly signed all his stuff over to the manipulative Wilcock. I recall the joint interview with Bill way back when, and Peterson seemed to regard David like an annoying fly.

I don't want to speculate irresponsibly, but the guy has shown himself time n again to be a lying, scheming weasel.

[RunningDeer]

I recall the joint interview with Bill way back when, and Peterson seemed to regard David like an annoying fly.
This is from another post, and it's the one that came to mind when Wilcock claims to be sole heir to Pete Peterson's million(s) dollar fortune.




David Wilcock: Who in the world would take an elderly war hero like Pete Peterson and want all of the things he owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life.

It's 3 part series with Dr. Pete Peterson. He made little eye contact with David. He came across as trying to impress Dr. Peterson. Every time David asked questions, they were really him going on and on with opinions. At one point Dr. Peterson says, “So the question is?”

Snippet of Pete/David exchange @ 56:11 (https://youtu.be/ooSRh7V68uk?t=56m11s).


Project Camelot interviews Dr Pete Peterson - part 1 of 3
ooSRh7V68uk

[Satori]

I've read the Idaho court documents in post #75 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99113-Any-Info-on-David-Wilcock&p=1178205&viewfull=1#post1178205) very thoroughly. My vocation requires me to not only read, but understand legal documents such as these.

What I can tell you without any hesitation or doubt is that the documents establish that the property was the subject of a more or less routine foreclosure and ejectment action originally filed by Bank of America.

The real estate that was foreclosed upon was owned by one Michelle Mims, who died in 2010. Peterson apparently lived there and had personal property there. Peterson claimed that he was in a common law marriage with Mims and that he had certain rights to the real state. That claim did not hold up to analysis under Idaho law.

In short, after some legal wrangling, BoA successfully foreclosed. The property sold at a sheriff's auction. First Nat'l Mtg was the successful bidder and is the owner. First Nat'l had to get not 1, not 2 but 5 writs of ejectment.

5 writs of ejectment were issued by the judge in this case. That is an unusually high number of such writs. Typically, a writ of ejectment is issued after a foreclosure only when there is a person or persons, and/or personal property, at the real estate and they will not voluntarily leave the premises and remove the personal property after the foreclosure is over. To have 5 writs issued is very unusual and informs us that whoever was at the property and/or who had personal property there, would not voluntarily leave and remove the personal property.

If this is Peterson's property as reported by David Wilcock, then for whatever reason Peterson would not comply with the court's order and writs. He would not do so even after after having the full range of due process and legal remedies afforded to him

The claim that the "Dark Alliance" through Gestapo-style police tactics were taking millions of dollars of personal property, throwing it into a pit and bulldozing it, under orders by the judge no less, is demonstrably false and not borne out by the documents. To the contrary. At least two of the writs instruct the sheriff not to take certain personal property and that any property actually removed should be placed in storage for safe keeping. So, rather than being ordered to take, destroy and bulldoze millions of dollars of personal property, as has been falsely claimed, the judge ordered that any personal property either be left in place or safely and properly stored.

It is my best guess that the personal property that the writs instruct be left alone is Peterson's personal property. This is likely, because upon a close reading of the documents it is clear that Peterson did not own the house and real estate and he was not a borrower on the loan to Mims from BoA. Thus, BoA's foreclosure judgment was not a judgment against Peterson and any money still owed to BoA was not recoverable from Peterson, only Mims' estate. Therefore, it is likely the judge ordered that Peterson's personal property be set aside from any personal property that was subject to the judgment. In short, it appears that far from having his personal property stolen it is, or at least was for a very long time, left available for him to come and get.

Although I may weigh in again later, I want to close by making one important point: To reasonable minds it is clear from the Idaho foreclosure/ejectment documents alone that Peterson received all due process under law, and then some. The claims being made to the contrary are rooted in pure fiction, not fact. Cui Bono?

[Shadowself]

That means all that money collected for Pete was collected under false pretense? Interesting.

I'm beginning to wonder who's more corrupt....Wilcock or Goode?

Maybe they have equal footing!

[Chester]

David should have gotten off his butt, flown there, and helped out with the situation even years ago. Yes, he would have gotten his hands dirty. But if it's that important, he should have been there to find out for himself and to aid his friend. This did not just suddenly happen.

I am sorry to say but after following all this and then, for this documented information to have surfaced, I have to conclude that this information was obtained by someone doing basic research as it now seems that this information was available to anyone in the public... all they had to do is just ask for it!

And my point is that doesn't Wilcock claim to be a researcher? If he was any sort of legitimate researcher and if he had an inkling of integrity he would have done this research himself and thus would have avoided misleading thousands of vulnerables.

Instead, what he did was to bring forth unsubstantiated claims, claims which are now easily and thoroughly debunked, and brought the false information in a lie packed, emotional rant (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1218-mega-attack) where he then directs people to go donate money to a GoFundMe account (https://www.gofundme.com/help-support-pete-peterson) where, when I read the text, looks pretty much like Wilcock likely wrote it!

I have to wonder if some "deal" may have been made with whoever would be getting their hands on this what? over $50,000!!?? I barely make that in a year!

When will the people at Gaia wake up and stop performing their role as "grandstander for frauds?"

When are all these "followers" going to wake up and see the reality that they are being constantly scammed?

[Bill Ryan]

Bill do you have any ideas at all why Pete Peterson would add all the bells and whistles to what appears to be a pretty mundane foreclosure???

It's a good question. I am now questioning everything that Pete Peterson has ever shared with anyone. That's not a joke.

Here's one example. On the GoFundMe page (https://www.gofundme.com/help-support-pete-peterson), there are all kinds of things that Peterson has apparently stated about himself. Here's an excerpt:




"Pete comes from a long line of inventors, including his grandfather who was Tesla's right-hand engineer at the Colorado laboratory. Known as "Mr. Do" by President Ronald Regan [sic], he is one of the top scientists, technology problem solvers, and is widely considered as the single most valuable and prolific inventor whose inventions remain highly classified.

Pete worked directly with top neocons like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and ended up having a change of heart that led to his coming forward. He felt he had "mud on the wheel of his karma." (source) (https://www.amazon.com/Ascension-Mysteries-Revealing-Cosmic-Between-ebook/dp/B0191ZL2EC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484970115&sr=8-1&keywords=ascension%20mysteries)

Pete helped design some of the craft and other technologies that the Secret Space Program uses. This included advanced computer chips that are far more powerful than anything we have in the commercial world, featuring photon-based transistors instead of those using electrons."

The difficulty I have with this is that none of this was shared with us in June 2009 when we interviewed him on record (http://projectcamelot.org/pete_peterson.html) — or when we talked with him for 12 hours the previous day, off-record. (I have that all captured on a tabletop dictaphone, with Peterson's knowledge and consent, transcribed and archived.)

You'd think he'd have REALLY happily and IMMEDIATELY told us the innocent, non-sensitive story of his grandfather and Tesla. He never mentioned that in 2009, in two full days of conversation.

When we met him, he was totally convincing. He sounded like a very high-level scientist, in every way.

BUT — we never saw any documents, never saw any devices, never visited his lab. We never even saw his house. We took him at his word, as David Wilcock has been ever since, and to this day.

It has to be a possibility that Project Camelot was fooled back then, and David Wilcock is being fooled now. For him to be a center column that supports Corey Goode's testimony is a REAL problem.

I am more and more suspecting that he's been confabulating. That might mean all or any of


Filling in memory gaps creatively
Inventing stories that sound great (and are self-aggrandizing)
Maybe even fully believing what he is saying.

Some of his former neighbors intimated that he was mentally ill, at least in part.

In this 2009 bio, Peterson states:


http://marketwired.com/press-release/mediag3-welcomes-dr-pete-peterson-software-development-pioneer-accomplished-engineer-1171541.htm





"Dr. Peterson holds an Associates Degree in Science & Engineering and a Ph.D. in Natural Philosophy from Golden State College now known as Stanford University."
And here, it states


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56338696





"Dr. Peterson has Associate Degrees in Science and Electrical Engineering and a Ph.D. from Golden State University in Natural Philosophy, a degree combining Linguistics and Semantics with Quantum Physics as related to Thermodynamics and Information Theory. His thesis is Classified."
Stanford University was never known as 'Golden State College'. Go look.

Golden State College (or University) is the former name of Honolulu University. I wrote to them two weeks ago to ask if Peterson attended there. They have not yet replied.

In the latter, his service record was also stated:



"Dr. Peterson served ten years in the United States Marine Corps (1962-1972), serving as an Officer in Vietnam for 23 months and served additional time in Japan and Okinawa with a final tour of duty as the (active duty) "Inspector/Instructor" of the U. S. Marine Corps. Reserve Training Center in Newport News, Virginia. In the capacity of a “Marine” he was awarded 12 various medals, 3 by foreign Governments. He was accorded a "Final Top Secret" security clearance and was specially trained by the military as a Military Engineer, Petroleum, Oils, and Lubricants Engineer, and a Nuclear Demolitions Expert and performed service as a Nuclear Explosive Devices Team Leader."
His DD214 has been requested in writing. That's the formal, documented public record for all US military servicemen. These can be obtained via this site:


https://archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel

I am very close to making a public statement of apology that Project Camelot did NOT do ANY due diligence at the time, and that at least some of what Peterson shared with us may have been fictional.

As each day passes, it looks more and more to be the case.

It's (thankfully!) not my decision, of course, but the question arises whether the $52,000 so far collected for him should be returned to the very well-meaning and generous donors.

Peterson is elderly (now 77), and is not in great shape, certainly physically, and (according to his neighbors) maybe not in great shape mentally either.

Clearly, documented by the four-year-old foreclosure saga, which has now reached its end (the house will be on the market within weeks), he has little or no money. This may be the personal tragedy of a lion in winter.

It's a tough call, but should be one made by GoFundMe according their community guidelines. Nothing else.

[Bob]

OMG... deep sigh...

[Chester]

I have no idea how, but hopefully someone contacts GoFundMe because if they allow folks to raise money in the way this money was raised, then I cannot imagine they would not become exposed to conspiracy to commit fraud charges.

This is mind-blowingly-unacceptable.

[Chester]

If Pete Peterson is mentally unwell, it makes me wonder how long he has been mentally unwell for. Taking it a step further, I wonder if he was mentally unwell when he supposedly signed all his stuff over to the manipulative Wilcock. I recall the joint interview with Bill way back when, and Peterson seemed to regard David like an annoying fly.

I don't want to speculate irresponsibly, but the guy has shown himself time n again to be a lying, scheming weasel.


You know what its starting to look like regarding Wilcock? He's been networking to find "vulnerables" to play "witness/whistleblower" as it is clear now this is what he's done with Peterson and Goode. Holy wow... I cannot imagine being anything "lower."

At least all this is finally getting exposed.

[Shadowself]

How did you find out he was hoarding and the dead cats again Bill? That seems important. Are the neighbors involved there or what?

You said:


There was a vast amount of stuff there — including three dead cats. Neighbors described Peterson as a hoarder and stated that he might be mentally unwell.

Pretty sad, and not a joke. The cats had been trapped in the house, and Peterson had not been there for a long time.

2 (two) dumpsters had been filled, as of a couple weeks ago. The workers said there would be 18 (eighteen) more to go. That was AFTER David Wilcock had written the above.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

That means all that money collected for Pete was collected under false pretense? Interesting.

I'm beginning to wonder who's more corrupt....Wilcock or Goode?

Maybe they have equal footing!

Well, I for one am no longer giving David a pass. I am rescinding his open invitation to board game night. Effective immediately.

[HaveBlue]

I recalled back when PC interviewed PP that right at the start he spoke of a UFO sighting by himself and 150 wedding guests along with 6000 people in surrounding towns that would have seen the multiple UFOs that came within 150 feet of him! That should have made that event one of the most important and widely known UFO sightings in history. Yet nobody present asked PP for more details or said that they had not ever heard of that particular event.

Yet this was the first time we UFO researchers (cough) had ever heard of this multiple UFO sighting. To me, that was the most incredible thing of all! Incredible does not mean amazing. It means without credibility, yet we most often use the word as though the former is true.

Remember 'Dr' Michael Wolfe, who when revealed, said 'it was better to be a pretend somebody than a real nobody. Sad as it is, I suspect this may a condition of many nearing the end of their lives who accomplished nothing worthy of note, so they make up a story that gets them attention, something they have never had. There are a lot of very lonely people out there, many are elderly.

[Bill Ryan]

How did you find out he was hoarding and the dead cats again Bill? That seems important. Are the neighbors involved there or what?



Anyone can drive out there and talk to the people clearing out the house. They said they had to wear hazmat masks because of the 'toxic conditions'.

This is very unsavory, but they reported bottles full of pee, cat feces everywhere, and mice jumping out of the boxes. The three dead cats were reported by them.

They said they had filled two dumpsters, with an estimated 18 more to go. This was all on 24 August.

David Wilcock's radio show with Jimmy Church was on 16 August. Extract here, featuring Peterson's voicemail to David Wilcock the previous day played on air by Jimmy Church.

None of that was true.


http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_incident_voicemail_August_2017.mp3

On the basis of Peterson's story, $52,000 has been collected so far.

[Chester]

This post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99113-Any-Info-on-David-Wilcock&p=1178268&viewfull=1#post1178268) took a lot of guts, Bill... but it is what this community needs from you trailblazers... an ability to admit when mistakes have been made and then the most important step - when the researchers decide they better do some serious due diligence and vetting before creating the next Corey Goode (reading this David???).

[Shadowself]

How did you find out he was hoarding and the dead cats again Bill? That seems important. Are the neighbors involved there or what?



Anyone can drive out there and talk to the people clearing out the house. They said they had to wear hazmat masks because of the 'toxic conditions'.

This is very unsavory, but they reported bottles full of pee, cat feces everywhere, and mice jumping out of the boxes. The three dead cats were reported by them.

They said they had filled two dumpsters, with an estimated 18 more to go. This was all on 24 August.

David Wilcock's radio show with Jimmy Church was on 16 August. Extract here, featuring Peterson's voicemail to David Wilcock the previous day played on air by Jimmy Church.

None of that was true.


http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_incident_voicemail_August_2017.mp3

On the basis of Peterson's story, $52,000 has been collected so far.

And Mr I'm so in tuned to insiders and the truth Wilcock didn't know this side of Peterson? He didn't know the house was a toxic waste hazard? Bottles of pee and cat feces and mice jumping out of boxes? And his psychic senses didn't know this?

He sucks as a psychic!

Dark alliance my a$$!!

[Mike]

Hmm..even if Peterson wasn't lying about his bio, it would be equally as disturbing. With his gramps being cozy with Reagan(hypothetically) and him working directly with people like Cheney n Rumsfeld, that suggests to me maybe some kind of multi generational mind control, project monarch type stuff. I dunno, maybe I'm going too far. That's just where my mind goes when I see stuff like that (a part of me wishes I never read Cathy O'Brien's testimony 'Tranceformation of America....i'm seeing ghosts everywhere now..or am i?)

[HaveBlue]

Sammy, that is exactly what Bill is doing, has done and will no doubt continue to do. It cost him a lot to fly from Switzerland to Idaho just for this one interview. How do you think he feels?

Why not just state the obvious after the horse has (long since) bolted.

[RunningDeer]

Anyone can drive out there and talk to the people clearing out the house. They said they had to wear hazmat masks because of the 'toxic conditions'.

This is very unsavory, but they reported bottles full of pee, cat feces everywhere, and mice jumping out of the boxes. The three dead cats were reported by them.

They said they had filled two dumpsters, with an estimated 18 more to go. This was all on 24 August.

David Wilcock's radio show with Jimmy Church was on 16 August. Extract here, featuring Peterson's voicemail to David Wilcock the previous day played on air by Jimmy Church.

None of that was true.


http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_incident_voicemail_August_2017.mp3

On the basis of Peterson's story, $52,000 has been collected so far.

Shadowself asked, “How did you find out he was hoarding and the dead cats again Bill?”

You answered, “Anyone can drive out there and talk to the people clearing out the house. They said they had to wear hazmat masks because of the 'toxic conditions’...”

I agree, but it doesn’t answer the question. Where can this info be found about the pee, mice and the three dead cats? I’m asking, in part, 1) for clarification 2) I want to put out the fires before those gnarly ones come out to play.

♡

[Bill Ryan]

Sammy, that is exactly what Bill is doing, has done and will no doubt continue to do. ... How do you think he feels?


* Bill will answer the question as best he can. :) *

I feel that Kerry Cassidy and I did a lot of pioneering work with Camelot, that was and still is important. We got a lot of things right, but got some things wrong.

I'm in no personal doubt about the value of some of the work we did.

BUT — I look back on our visit to Peterson in 2009 and (with the hard-won experience I have now) I cannot believe that we never asked for documentation, or for sight of his lab, or for any devices that he'd built. We just sat and listened to him, for many hours. That's all we did.

And he was just fantastically impressive to listen to. David Wilcock and Kerry will agree. Anyone watching our interview (http://projectcamelot.org/pete_peterson.html) might agree.

I do think that some of what he told us had to have been true. It'd be impossible to invent all that. (Wouldn't it?)

But it looks more and more and more like he's been confabulating. ('Confabulating' is a medical term for when an elderly person fills in gaps and blanks with fanciful inventions, which they may sincerely believe.)

The alternative is that he's knowingly lying, at least now, to David Wilcock.

Whichever it is, we don't know when it started.

[Bill Ryan]

Where can this info be found about the pee, mice and the three dead cats? I’m asking, in part, 1) for clarification 2) I want to put out the fires before those gnarly ones come out to play.

♡


The address of the house is on the foreclosure documents (http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf). (Peterson has not lived there for a while.)
Anyone can fly to Boise and rent a car for a day.
Anyone can talk to the people cleaning out the house.

I do suggest that other researchers should now do this. It's extraordinary to me that David Wilcock had clearly not recently been to Peterson's house (if he ever had). His 'inheritance' was described by the workers there as 'hoarded junk'.

There are more questions to be answered. For instance, Peterson's truck was right there — on 24 August. You can even see it clearly on Google Earth. (It'd been there for a while, unmoved.)

Anyone with keys could drive it away. It's not been impounded. It's parked there. It's currently unknown how come Peterson was and is living in Boise, an hour away, and has been unable to retrieve it.

Everything I've been posting here is in the public domain. No special access, no inside information, no paid investigators.

Just good research, the kind people used to do, long ago. :) Once again, the latter is what the issue really is.

[RunningDeer]

Where can this info be found about the pee, mice and the three dead cats? I’m asking, in part, 1) for clarification 2) I want to put out the fires before those gnarly ones come out to play.

♡


The address of the house is on the foreclosure documents (http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf). (Peterson has not lived there for a while.)
Anyone can fly to Boise and rent a car for a day.
Anyone can talk to the people cleaning out the house.

I do suggest that other researchers should now do this. It's extraordinary to me that David Wilcock had clearly not recently been to Peterson's house (if he ever had). His 'inheritance' was described by the workers there as 'hoarded junk'.

There are more questions to be answered. For instance, Peterson's truck was right there — on 24 August. You can even see it clearly on Google Earth. (It'd been there for a while, unmoved.)

Anyone with keys could drive it away. It's not been impounded. It's parked there. It's currently unknown how come Peterson was and is living in Boise, an hour away, and has been unable to retrieve it.

Everything I've been posting here is in the public domain. No special access, no inside information, no paid investigators.

Just good research, the kind people used to do, long ago. :) Once again, the latter is what the issue really is.

Thanks for the reply, Bill. I did google using your words before I checked back with you. Nothing came up about pee, mice and the three dead cats. I'll try again tomorrow and if I find anything, I'll include the link(s).

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks for the reply, Bill. I did google using your words before I checked back with you. Nothing came up. I'll try again tomorrow and if I find anything, I'll include the link(s).

You won't find any Google results about dead cats, bottles of urine, hazmat masks, Peterson's truck, and dumpsters by searching the net. The only results that will come up will be these posts, and anywhere else this might be copied.

This isn't just about Google searching. Or even public record searching. That's just part of investigating something.

One finds out about dead cats by talking to the people who found them and whose job it was to move them and super-clean the entire house before it was put on the foreclosure market.

That can be verified by anyone talking to them again. (It's what Richard Dolan would describe as a falsifiable statement. :) )

[Shadowself]

So I wonder how long it will take for this to get back to Wilcock? I wonder how he will react to this bomb shell?

OH wait! Corey reads the forum every day! He'll tell him.

[RunningDeer]

Thanks for the reply, Bill. I did google using your words before I checked back with you. Nothing came up. I'll try again tomorrow and if I find anything, I'll include the link(s).

You won't find any Google results about dead cats, bottles of urine, hazmat masks, Peterson's truck, and dumpsters by searching the net. The only results that will come up will be these posts, and anywhere else this might be copied.

This isn't just about Google searching. Or even public record searching. That's just part of investigating something.

One finds out about dead cats by talking to the people who found them and whose job it was to move them and super-clean the entire house before it was put on the foreclosure market.

That can be verified by anyone talking to them again. (It's what Richard Dolan would describe as a falsifiable statement. :) )

Yes, again I agree and I understand. The statements you posted are specific accounts, but you didn’t state that you or someone you know passed it along. Where I’m coming from is anyone out there that’s looking to rip Project Avalon a new one could have a field day with accusations of unverifiable information.

In short: I’m watching out for the Avalonian Family. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/hat-tip.gif

[Bill Ryan]

Where I’m coming from is anyone out there that’s looking to rip Project Avalon a new one could have a field day with accusations of unverifiable information.

In short: I’m watching out for the Avalonian Family. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/hat_tip.gif

Thank you! :heart:

It's completely verifiable. I want independent researchers out there to confirm everything. :)

Not because there's any doubt. But because then it's not just one person's word... there's been way too much of that already.

[Chester]

I think at this point there has to be a little faith that the information provided was well sourced. I doubt anyone would think that Bill would, at this time, ever share information of this nature that wasn't well sourced and easily falsifiable (or confirmable). I could also imagine that sources might prefer to remain private because of reasonable concerns for their safety. There's plenty of posts documenting veiled threats from the crowd currently under scrutiny as well as a video admission of one of these participants carrying firearms.

[Shadowself]

You know what bothers me the most? The fact that people donated their money to this guy based on a lie perpetrated by David and possible Pete himself.

I was looking at the go fund me pages and saw one that struck me because they were asking for 50K to help pay for their 11 year old son's emergency who had a brain hemorrhage and needed a second surgery as well. They only collected 18k and they were telling the truth.

https://www.gofundme.com/dylan-popescu-brain-hemorrhage

Then to make things worse in the update:
Two days ago Dan, Dylan's dad, was rushed to the ER and had brain surgery he has stage 5 Glioblastoma, a very fast and aggressive brain cancer. Please pray for Dan's healing and recovery. Dan is a GREAT man he cherishes his family he is needed on earth. Prayers, love, faith and strength for Dylan and Dan and their entire family.


This family is suffering hardship in a big way.

Pete is suffering hardship. But what kind?

This crap is based on a lie. Now perhaps if the people donating all that money were told the truth they would at least have had that option to make their decision to donate the money. It seems like outright fraud to me to base this whole money thing on a fraud story and I'm sure they would want to know the truth.

[Bill Ryan]

Some images:

The first two are from June 2009, and the last one was from 24 August, 2017.

http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_group_shot_7_sm_edited.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_Ford_pickup_mirror_2009.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Ford_truck_in_photo_2017_edited.jpg

In the last photo, you can look up Google Earth (or Google Maps) from the address in the foreclosure documents, and see the same truck in the same place. (The exact date of the Google Earth image is unknown, but it's 2017. Google Maps doesn't show that, but Google Earth does.)

The two red dumpsters are the ones that are being filled, or maybe have been by now, 12 days later.

[Innocent Warrior]

Forget faith, anyone who doesn't believe Bill, go check out the situation at the property yourself.

Update: this post was in response to Sam's post.

[Chester]

Forget faith, anyone who doesn't believe Bill, go check out the situation at the property yourself.

Update: this post was in response to Sam's post.

Looks now like someone did, eh? (referencing Bill's post with a photo).

[Mike]

Where I’m coming from is anyone out there that’s looking to rip Project Avalon a new one could have a field day with accusations of unverifiable information.

In short: I’m watching out for the Avalonian Family. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/hat_tip.gif

Thank you! :heart:

It's completely verifiable. I want independent researchers out there to confirm everything. :)

Not because there's any doubt. But because then it's not just one person's word... there's been way too much of that already.


Did *you* fly out to Boise to speak with the workers Bill?:) You must have a good reason for playing it a bit coy, but I must say, it's eluding me!:confused: I trust you have very good reason to say the stuff about the dead cats and so forth. I don't doubt that in the least, but it would be nice to know how you found out. If we can't google it, and we can't fly to Boise, then short of a blue avian sphere taking us there............

seriously, what am i missing here?

edit to add: ok, i think i know what i'm missing:ROFL:

[Bill Ryan]

Did *you* fly out to Boise to speak with the workers Bill? :)

(I realize the posts here are overlapping, btw.)

To respond to your question indirectly, let's just say that the photo I posted of the truck parked by the two red dumpster containers can be verified by anyone on Google Earth. Anyone reading this can do that in 5-10 minutes, and maybe less.

That shows it's a real photo taken at the real location.

And you can see even with the plates redacted (I did that) that it's Peterson's truck, a Ford F250, with the same color, same mirror attachments, same badges, and the same small dent on the left end of the bumper.

The photo was taken on 24 August 2017.

No police, no bulldozers. No pit. No cleared house yet.

That was 9 days after Peterson's voicemail message that Jimmy Church played here, which David stated he received the day before the 16 August show.


http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_incident_voicemail_August_2017.mp3

[Bill Ryan]

The photo was taken on 24 August 2017.

No police, no bulldozers. No pit. No cleared house yet.

That was 9 days after Peterson's voicemail message that Jimmy Church played here, which David stated he received the day before the 16 August show.



http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_incident_voicemail_August_2017.mp3



Something to clarify here:

I'm not saying that David Wilcock has been knowingly complicit in any publicly stated untruth.

I'm not saying there has been any knowingly perpetrated fraud by him or Coco Luau (the GoFundMe campaign organizer) concerning the $52,000+ so far collected for Peterson. (Though something, somewhere, is wrong with that picture.)

I am saying that he was grossly negligent in not fact-checking what he was told (which anyone reading this could have done, and which now has been done) — and in believing, as he often does, everything that 'one of his insiders' tells him.

To all reading this, Avalon members or not: Do you begin to see how important this all is?

[Gemma13]

I've read the Idaho court documents in post #75 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99113-Any-Info-on-David-Wilcock&p=1178205&viewfull=1#post1178205) very thoroughly. My vocation requires me to not only read, but understand legal documents such as these.

What I can tell you without any hesitation or doubt is that the documents establish that the property was the subject of a more or less routine foreclosure and ejectment action originally filed by Bank of America.

The real estate that was foreclosed upon was owned by one Michelle Mims, who died in 2010. Peterson apparently lived there and had personal property there. Peterson claimed that he was in a common law marriage with Mims and that he had certain rights to the real state. That claim did not hold up to analysis under Idaho law.

In short, after some legal wrangling, BoA successfully foreclosed. The property sold at a sheriff's auction. First Nat'l Mtg was the successful bidder and is the owner. First Nat'l had to get not 1, not 2 but 5 writs of ejectment.

5 writs of ejectment were issued by the judge in this case. That is an unusually high number of such writs. Typically, a writ of ejectment is issued after a foreclosure only when there is a person or persons, and/or personal property, at the real estate and they will not voluntarily leave the premises and remove the personal property after the foreclosure is over. To have 5 writs issued is very unusual and informs us that whoever was at the property and/or who had personal property there, would not voluntarily leave and remove the personal property.

If this is Peterson's property as reported by David Wilcock, then for whatever reason Peterson would not comply with the court's order and writs. He would not do so even after after having the full range of due process and legal remedies afforded to him

The claim that the "Dark Alliance" through Gestapo-style police tactics were taking millions of dollars of personal property, throwing it into a pit and bulldozing it, under orders by the judge no less, is demonstrably false and not borne out by the documents. To the contrary. At least two of the writs instruct the sheriff not to take certain personal property and that any property actually removed should be placed in storage for safe keeping. So, rather than being ordered to take, destroy and bulldoze millions of dollars of personal property, as has been falsely claimed, the judge ordered that any personal property either be left in place or safely and properly stored.

It is my best guess that the personal property that the writs instruct be left alone is Peterson's personal property. This is likely, because upon a close reading of the documents it is clear that Peterson did not own the house and real estate and he was not a borrower on the loan to Mims from BoA. Thus, BoA's foreclosure judgment was not a judgment against Peterson and any money still owed to BoA was not recoverable from Peterson, only Mims' estate. Therefore, it is likely the judge ordered that Peterson's personal property be set aside from any personal property that was subject to the judgment. In short, it appears that far from having his personal property stolen it is, or at least was for a very long time, left available for him to come and get.

Although I may weigh in again later, I want to close by making one important point: To reasonable minds it is clear from the Idaho foreclosure/ejectment documents alone that Peterson received all due process under law, and then some. The claims being made to the contrary are rooted in pure fiction, not fact. Cui Bono?


Extract from Corey Goode Statement on Divine Cosmos, David Wilcock Blog: Dark Alliance Mega Attack ... Repelled for Now.

Normal standards of law require that your items are moved into storage. You then must be given a period of time to recover them, providing that you pay the fees for their removal and transportation.

David was fully ready to give Pete whatever he needed to recover the items.

The judge also ordered the simultaneous theft of Pete’s truck. This left him with no means of transportation right as the operation began.

The reason the judge gave for stealing Pete’s truck was that he didn’t appreciate how Pete had tried to defend himself against these actions.

He expected Pete to just accept what was being done instead of filing various motions to challenge the legality of these operations.

[Shadowself]

Now see what you did Gemma! I was feeling all warm and fuzzy about Bills last post and you had to go and spoil it. :p


David was fully ready to give Pete whatever he needed to recover the items.

The judge also ordered the simultaneous theft of Pete’s truck. This left him with no means of transportation right as the operation began.

This sounds pretty shady to me Bill.

The judge never order the theft of a truck that is still there waiting to be picked up. And just when was he ready to give Pete whatever he needed to recover it?


Normal standards of law require that your items are moved into storage. You then must be given a period of time to recover them, providing that you pay the fees for their removal and transportation.

They didn't/don't even need to pay fees...just get a key made if you can't find it and pick up the truck. Or pay to have it towed.

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[Sequoia]

You know what bothers me the most? The fact that people donated their money to this guy based on a lie perpetrated by David and possible Pete himself.

Exactly, Shadowself. Been going on for a long time now...PP certainly isn't some ''poor innocent victim'' here.

[Nasu]

It's my business to know that courts pay locksmiths every day to fabricate or duplicate keys so as to remove vehicles that are claimed as "chattel" in court cases. No biggy, just business, in this case court business. Seems to me $52,000 goes a long way to softening that blow for the claimant or so called wronged party. This whole story stinks to high heaven. The worst part being that David Wilcock, the heir apparent, so called, as well as his sidekick / lap-dog James Goode, failed to do any due diligence at all, but rather CHOSE to jump to crazy conclusions for the sake of online click bait and daily active users...

Says a lot about both men to me. Good sleuthing Bill, carry on...x... N

[Mike]

David's "insiders" are basically Pete and Corey (yes, feel free to laugh) and probably have been for a while.

New "Intel" (a Wilcock favorite) suggests Pete is not the man we thought he was. I would guess that he's been playing Wilcock all along. Like a fiddle.

No coincidence that his "intel" corroborates Corey's - they're quite likely working in tandem to use the naive and dramatic Wilcock as their pawn. Perhaps not knowingly working in tandem, but fulfilling their roles for the same cause for whoever is pulling the strings.

To what end? Who knows exactly? Most likely to completely deligitamize the ufo community among other things. But I doubt they're only working as a twosome. If this is true, there are certainly people behind them. Gaia, sure, but maybe even beyond that.

Salla endorses every flaky "whistleblower" out there now. He can't be that dumb. He's playing a role too.

Oh the tangled webs....

Sure I could be off by more than a few degrees, but this is where my spidey senses are taking me.

In another scenario, Wilcock is in on the scam too, but i dont think this is the case. I believe he's just being used.

[Shadowself]

Good morning,

Even after a good nights sleep and my first cup of coffee this still does not look good for David Wilcock. I was just reading one of his face book posts and his wording stinks! Check it...


NEW UPDATE III: I have leaked just a bit of the information we have about the corrupt judge in this case against Pete.
We have absolute proof of illegal collusion between Bank of America and this judge. Many other judges have already been put away for life in cases just like this.

We are not coming forward with the proof yet, but are prepared to. This case could be a bellwether for all Americans and potentially go to the Supreme Court.

Furthermore, the fundraiser has been a wild success, building us a "war chest" of over 36K and climbing to fight this insane criminality. Go check out Update III!

Building 'us' a war chest? Supreme court? We have absolute proof of illegal collusion?

36123

I don't know about you but I'd sure like to see that absolute proof.

[Mike]

Wilcock doesn't have absolute proof of sh!t. Never will. More nonsense of course. Just like his alleged list of "dark alliance" members....it'll never see the light of day.

Besides, we already know his standard for proof. It's quite low.

I can already see it now: "well we were prepared to come forward with our proof of corruption but the blue avians ordered us not to..."

Seriously. Watch. That's what will happen.

[Shadowself]

I think the whole Dark Alliance was some kind of diversion. But why? Why make up all the BS just before Corey has some kind of event? It certainly didn't help it? So why bring all this out...death threats...to him and to the dark alliance?

36135

They weren't very successful with the Peterson information.

Makes no damned sense but look at who we're talking about here... It's never made any sense!

[Shadowself]

I remember years ago Wilcock owed money to one of our forum members, $20k? Was it the Camelot forum? The lady was very distressed, and had obviously been 'duped' by Wilcock. This went on for months, with various members trying to help her, to no avail. Seems as if he's still 'at it' ?






Note from Bill: It was $10,000, the member was Weezer, and it was here:


An Open Letter to Mr. David Wilcock (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61721-An-Open-Letter-to-Mr.-David-Wilcock)





And then there is Corey Goode's response....interesting no?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61721-An-Open-Letter-to-Mr.-David-Wilcock&p=707739&viewfull=1#post707739


His EGO, self worship/prophet syndrome (Fed by weak minded people all over the world, it would be a struggle for anyone!) as well as over dependence on the "RA Material" (ROOT Luciferian belief system material found within some of it) has raised my eye brow here and there... but his work recently on Financial Tyranny and our shared sources (Wink and nod verified, could be them ego tripping) have caused me to drop any of those concerns. HE will be a major target of various types going after the Financial guys... what better way than him being a financial fraud?

Funny how he's changed his tune.

[Kristin]

I remember years ago Wilcock owed money to one of our forum members, $20k? Was it the Camelot forum? The lady was very distressed, and had obviously been 'duped' by Wilcock. This went on for months, with various members trying to help her, to no avail. Seems as if he's still 'at it' ?






Note from Bill: It was $10,000, the member was Weezer, and it was here:


An Open Letter to Mr. David Wilcock (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61721-An-Open-Letter-to-Mr.-David-Wilcock)





And then there is Corey Goode's response....interesting no?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61721-An-Open-Letter-to-Mr.-David-Wilcock&p=707739&viewfull=1#post707739


His EGO, self worship/prophet syndrome (Fed by weak minded people all over the world, it would be a struggle for anyone!) as well as over dependence on the "RA Material" (ROOT Luciferian belief system material found within some of it) has raised my eye brow here and there... but his work recently on Financial Tyranny and our shared sources (Wink and nod verified, could be them ego tripping) have caused me to drop any of those concerns. HE will be a major target of various types going after the Financial guys... what better way than him being a financial fraud?

Funny how he's changed his tune.

Classic sociopath, play both tunes and always be right in someones eyes.

[ditting]

Regarding the photograph of the truck with the dumpsters: those do not appear to be dumpsters to me, they appear to be containers. Dumpsters usually are designed to roll off of a truck and are open on top with a door hinged one one side across one full face. Containers usually are sealed boxes with a pair of hinged doors on one face.

Dumpsters would imply they would be disposing of the contents. Containers such as those which can be easily loaded on a truck and moved off sight are more likely there to store Pete's belongings off sight. This makes me think his items are just being removed from the property and not necessarily being disposed of. If this were true, David's statements are even less credible.

Dumpsters:
http://www.hometowndumpsterrental.com/files/Common-Roll-Off-Dumpster-Sizes.png

Containers:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mt5ShQ4hI4A/TNz3-7_lKXI/AAAAAAAADuA/BOsEl-kTpjE/s400/Container.jpg
http://clipart-library.com/data_images/538812.jpg

[Joe from the Carolinas]

If Pete Peterson is mentally unwell, it makes me wonder how long he has been mentally unwell for. Taking it a step further, I wonder if he was mentally unwell when he supposedly signed all his stuff over to the manipulative Wilcock. I recall the joint interview with Bill way back when, and Peterson seemed to regard David like an annoying fly.

I don't want to speculate irresponsibly, but the guy has shown himself time n again to be a lying, scheming weasel.


You know what its starting to look like regarding Wilcock? He's been networking to find "vulnerables" to play "witness/whistleblower" as it is clear now this is what he's done with Peterson and Goode. Holy wow... I cannot imagine being anything "lower."

At least all this is finally getting exposed.

If that is indeed the case, it is against the law in both the state of Idaho as well as the state of California to engage in abuse /neglect of a person who lacks decision-making capacity. If indeed Peterson's decision-making capacity is impaired, wilcock could be in some very deep trouble. Maybe he will be booking a world tour soon?

[Shadowself]

I listened to an audio of the show with Peterson and David on Cosmic Disclosure and he talks about a spectacular UFO display in 1950 when he was ten I think it was at a wedding. He said over 6000 people witnessed it. I did a pretty thorough search and could not find anywhere this was reported as a mass sighting. Then he talks about meeting ET's which he never mentioned as I recall in his interviews back in 2009 with the Project Camelot interviews. I wonder if Bill remembers that at all?

So....is he being manipulated to say these things for the sake of the show to verify and corroborate the Goode material from the Goode Marketing Organization and to support the Wilcock show? It's starting to look that way to me.

If he is being used to say these things one wonders when that audio phone message actually happened. Perhaps he called Wilcock, and David offered him a spot on the show to make some money to say certain things which would support the show and in turn help Peterson's situation.

Which bring us back to why David didn't know the facts in the case and has not seen exactly what has happened. He obviously made up most of the claims in the Dark Alliance posts and claims which are now verified in the court documents here. Then on the Jimmy Church show he conveniently used the phone conversation to promote the whole thing as some conspiracy which does not exist and was actually explained quite well by Cliff High in his report. In that they are desperately deflecting the criticisms and inventing the Dark Alliance using Peterson as a pawn.

Very stupid move on David's part to use this situation of foreclosure to promote himself and Goode.

One has to ask what is the next stupid move...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwSTe9uit48

[Kristin]

If Pete Peterson is mentally unwell, it makes me wonder how long he has been mentally unwell for. Taking it a step further, I wonder if he was mentally unwell when he supposedly signed all his stuff over to the manipulative Wilcock. I recall the joint interview with Bill way back when, and Peterson seemed to regard David like an annoying fly.

I don't want to speculate irresponsibly, but the guy has shown himself time n again to be a lying, scheming weasel.


You know what its starting to look like regarding Wilcock? He's been networking to find "vulnerables" to play "witness/whistleblower" as it is clear now this is what he's done with Peterson and Goode. Holy wow... I cannot imagine being anything "lower."

At least all this is finally getting exposed.

If that is indeed the case, it is against the law in both the state of Idaho as well as the state of California to engage in abuse /neglect of a person who lacks decision-making capacity. If indeed Peterson's decision-making capacity is impaired, wilcock could be in some very deep trouble. Maybe he will be booking a world tour soon?

I'm having a hard time seeing victims here, rather what I see are willing participants in cooperation with each other. Pete may be an exception to this at this time in his life, but he was well into spreading the butter thick earlier on.

[UfonautRadio]

Guys,

I'm starting a Go Fund Me because I don't have the $12 needed for the Teresa Y / Stacy Goode webinar coming up.

https://www.facebook.com/events/156060608307369/?acontext=%7B%22ref%22%3A%2222%22%2C%22feed_story_type%22%3A%2222%22%2C%22action_history%22%3A%22nul l%22%7D&pnref=story

[Nasu]

Guys,

I'm starting a Go Fund Me because I don't have the $12 needed for the Teresa Y / Stacy Goode webinar coming up.

https://www.facebook.com/events/156060608307369/?acontext=%7B%22ref%22%3A%2222%22%2C%22feed_story_type%22%3A%2222%22%2C%22action_history%22%3A%22nul l%22%7D&pnref=story

Nice. You could have enough for a small yacht very soon, start by asking for $12 and watch it rise to over $50,000.. This gives me a great idea...x... N

[Bill Ryan]

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61 recent posts have been moved to create this new thread. It deserved its own new topic.

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[Bill Ryan]

Regarding the photograph of the truck with the dumpsters: those do not appear to be dumpsters to me, they appear to be containers. Dumpsters usually are designed to roll off of a truck and are open on top with a door hinged one one side across one full face. Containers usually are sealed boxes with a pair of hinged doors on one face.

Dumpsters would imply they would be disposing of the contents. Containers such as those which can be easily loaded on a truck and moved off sight are more likely there to store Pete's belongings off sight. This makes me think his items are just being removed from the property and not necessarily being disposed of. If this were true, David's statements are even less credible.

Dumpsters:
http://www.hometowndumpsterrental.com/files/Common-Roll-Off-Dumpster-Sizes.png

Containers:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mt5ShQ4hI4A/TNz3-7_lKXI/AAAAAAAADuA/BOsEl-kTpjE/s400/Container.jpg
http://clipart-library.com/data_images/538812.jpg

Yes, you may well be right. (Forgive me! 'Dumpster' isn't really a term used in the UK. :) )

Here's the satellite photo from Google Earth:

http://projectavalon.net/Ford_truck_Google_Earth.jpg

And on the ground: (24 Aug 2017)

http://projectavalon.net/Ford_truck_in_photo_2017_edited.jpg

[Chester]

If Pete Peterson is mentally unwell, it makes me wonder how long he has been mentally unwell for. Taking it a step further, I wonder if he was mentally unwell when he supposedly signed all his stuff over to the manipulative Wilcock. I recall the joint interview with Bill way back when, and Peterson seemed to regard David like an annoying fly.

I don't want to speculate irresponsibly, but the guy has shown himself time n again to be a lying, scheming weasel.


You know what its starting to look like regarding Wilcock? He's been networking to find "vulnerables" to play "witness/whistleblower" as it is clear now this is what he's done with Peterson and Goode. Holy wow... I cannot imagine being anything "lower."

At least all this is finally getting exposed.

If that is indeed the case, it is against the law in both the state of Idaho as well as the state of California to engage in abuse /neglect of a person who lacks decision-making capacity. If indeed Peterson's decision-making capacity is impaired, wilcock could be in some very deep trouble. Maybe he will be booking a world tour soon?

I'm having a hard time seeing victims here, rather what I see are willing participants in cooperation with each other. Pete may be an exception to this at this time in his life, but he was well into spreading the butter thick earlier on.

I understand your post and the point about victims.

There are the vulnerable who, then, wittingly become part of the problem makers. There are the vulnerable who might then become victims.

For example, the story of Hollie Craig who, if the stories are reasonably true, was/is a mentally challenged individual (a vulnerable) who was purportedly sexually abused since she was six years old (a victim).

There is then the possibility of a Pete Peterson having his own potential vulnerabilities (proclivities towards mythomania, megalomania, pathological lying, etc.) who, if discovered by someone who can see a way to "use" (and thus bring into the fold, nurture, coach, etc.) the individual whereby the individual then willingly and wittingly becomes a part of the "tag team" then I do not see them as a victim. I believe Corey Goode is an example of this as well.

The key legal decider would be based on a determination as to whether they were mentally competent at the outset and/or as the charade progressed. If Pete Peterson's current mental/emotional state could be deemed incompetent at this time, I would think its a far reach to think a case could be built that he was incompetent 8 years ago when Pete's stories (and Wilcock's involvement along with others) brought his stories to the public.

The point I am hoping to make is that there's likely no excuse for Peterson just as there's likely no excuse for Goode (and many, many others), but what the entire alternative community should recognize is the danger of someone in Wilcock's position (who has access to media outlets) in bringing forward folks of little or no conscience who then 'pied piper' the vulnerables among the audiences over the cliffs of disinformation to the land of pure fantasy.

[Kristin]

Well said Sammy :)


The point I am hoping to make is that there's likely no excuse for Peterson just as there's likely no excuse for Goode (and many, many others), but what the entire alternative community should recognize is the danger of someone in Wilcock's position (who has access to media outlets) in bringing forward folks of little or no conscience who then pied piper the vulnerables among the audiences over the cliffs of disinformation to the land of pure fantasy.

This is why I have not dropped this topic and why I continue to post. The distortion of truth and the distortion of other researcher's hard work is creating an unrealistic image that people believe in a cultish way. It's dangerous. People have been getting threats, stalked, and generally labeled as a "dark cabal" without any evidence.

Everything that they claim is being done to them they are in fact DOING to others. We are just here gathering and looking at REAL evidence. Their world is inverted... which brings forth disturbing conclusions beyond psychopathy. AND there are kids involved and being marketed to.

I worry about these people who are actually believing in this. They were vulnerable, looking for answers, and they give their time, money, and devotion. They have lost their way and will spit in your face to defend it. They are blinded by tall tales and a need for spiritual understanding.

Guru types are coming out of the woodwork everywhere these days to try to harvest up the unknowing, claiming to have all the answers in a world that is in chaos. These are troubling times but the only answer is in knowing the truth about any of it. Without that, everything we do will have no effect and nothing we do will be lasting because nothing we do will be real.

Compassion is based in truth. It's not pretty, safe, or filled with bowels of rose petals and essential oil. It just IS. What we are uncovering is a small micro version of a much broader issue and a BIG problem which needs to be focused upon.

What happened to critical thinking, discernment, sovereignty? I am grateful that this is is alive and well here. Let us continue to nurture and develop our skills. It is empowering and healing to do so.

[neutronstar]

I do think that some of what he told us had to have been true. It'd be impossible to invent all that. (Wouldn't it?)

.

Not really. You would be surprised at some people's abilities. I am not saying that all of it is a lie, but it very well could be.

I don't want you to take this the wrong way but this should be a lesson for everyone on this forum. Everyone can be fooled. Just because you meet someone and they are nice, impressive, or whatever, doesn't mean they are on the level. I have learned this first hand and nothing surprises me anymore.

I really don't know what to believe in the 48 years I have lived. I will listen to everything, and at the end of the day, I make my best guess, and I never am afraid to change my mind and admit that I could be wrong.

You and Kerry were a target for the deep state the moment you two started to do interviews. Don't you think that they sent people to you to muddy the waters. Do you think you could tell the difference between an actual whistle blower and one that was sent to deceive you? Knowing what I know I am almost certain I couldn't. I would think they would be very good at what they do.

[Chuck]

Thanks for this news on PP Bill. WOW! I considered Pete as one of the brightest, dynamic, genuine, credible and principled whistle blower that you have interviewed. (and perhaps in a way ... still do). I say that because if you believe what Omnisense and others are revealing about voice to skull, behavior modification and remote neural monitoring and control ... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals.... or perhaps not ... Very tough to have a handle on anything anymore.

Wow ... is all I can say. I have a strange suspicion that as the veil continues to lift, that word will be common.

[Jantje]

For me the Pete Peterson interview of 2009 was one of the camelot interviews I always thought of as very sincere and real. One of the best Camelot interviews even.
When I saw Peterson again a few months ago, in conversation with Wilcock I felt something was not quite right. This led me to believe Peterson was compromised, but now all this is coming out I wonder if Peterson was ever genuine.

I guess this shows that it's very important to do a background check and ask for evidence that can back up what a whistleblower is presenting, otherwise it's just a person telling a story that might be true.

Never the less thanks for the thread Bill.
There is a reason I think you are one of the most credible people in the alternative/truthseeking community. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

[Bill Ryan]

I guess this shows that it's very important to do a background check and ask for evidence that can back up what a whistleblower is presenting, otherwise it's just a person telling a story that might be true.

Yes, really. Even the first time we met 'Henry Deacon', in late 2006 (real name Arthur Neumann), he placed his documents on the table for us to read, but asked us to be silent when we read them.

He'd deliberately asked us to meet him in a really crowded Pizza Hut at 6 pm on a Saturday evening, filled with noisy children. The very first thing he did was put his cellphone on the table and take out the battery while we watched, and he motioned us to please do the same. He then showed us the documents. One item he wrote on a sheet of paper in pen, made sure we'd seen it, and then crumpled it up again.

That's how a real whistleblower thinks, fears, and operates. (Also see the extremely good Ed Snowden documentary, Citizenfour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenfour): it's very similar in some ways.)

A few weeks later, 'Henry' took us to his local pub in the small village close to the base he worked at, and Kerry and I sat in a corner watching his ex-colleagues come in the door and greet him with surprise. That was also a pretty good check for us. 'Henry' was always exactly who he said he was.

[Chester]

... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals....

Great post. I had to quote one specific part to ask the following question -

If true... if someone is a TI and then consistently behaves deplorably - does the fact that they are a TI make any difference with regards to their own personal responibility to behave responsibly?

I ask this question to all who might read this post.

I believe that this is the most important question of all to consider and then answer with regards to this whole TI thing.

[Jantje]

I don't think of David Wilcock as a TI. David Wilcock is more like a brand.
All he has to do is come up with new content and stay relevant to his gullible audience to secure his income at this point.
There is no way back for him now. A complete 180 turn would destroy all his credibility to even his own audience

[raregem]

Through the years I have not been able to pay real close attention to Wilcock. I tend to turn off his videos quickly.
I have wondered about his back ground,education, family, marriage perhaps, children.????
A basic search today came up with RationalWiki.com. A partial write up is copied below. It was short.

RationalWiki:

David Wilcock (born 1973) is an American author known for promoting pseudoscience and pretending to his readers his ideas are factual.
Contents

1 Claims
2 Publications
3 External sources
4 References

Claims

Wilcock claims in his book and on his website that everything from extraterrestrial visitation, 2012 phenomena to reincarnation and ancient aliens are all scientific and factual. He believes in "ancient prophecies" and how they apparently align with the "latest research in quantum physics." He wrote that in 2012 there would be a consciousness shift on Earth.[1] It didn't happen.

In his book The Source Field Investigations (2011) he advocated intelligent design and vitalism by writing that all biological life on earth emerges directly out of an "energy source field".[2][3] Wilcock also believes he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.[4]

Wilcock's 2016 book is titled The Ascension Mysteries: Revealing the Cosmic Battle Between Good and Evil. According to historian Jason Colavito, who reviewed it, it is more about the cosmic battle between Wilcock and his high school bullies. See External sources.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/David_Wilcock

[Chester]

... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals....

Great post. I had to quote one specific part to ask the following question -

If true... if someone is a TI and then consistently behaves deplorably - does the fact that they are a TI make any difference with regards to their own personal responibility to behave responsibly?

I ask this question to all who might read this post.

I believe that this is the most important question of all to consider and then answer with regards to this whole TI thing.

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

[Ewan]

... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals....

Great post. I had to quote one specific part to ask the following question -

If true... if someone is a TI and then consistently behaves deplorably - does the fact that they are a TI make any difference with regards to their own personal responibility to behave responsibly?

I ask this question to all who might read this post.

I believe that this is the most important question of all to consider and then answer with regards to this whole TI thing.

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

With all due respect I believe that would call for a new thread, and it is something I've pondered myself.

[Satori]

... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals....

Great post. I had to quote one specific part to ask the following question -

If true... if someone is a TI and then consistently behaves deplorably - does the fact that they are a TI make any difference with regards to their own personal responibility to behave responsibly?

I ask this question to all who might read this post.

I believe that this is the most important question of all to consider and then answer with regards to this whole TI thing.

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

In my opinion, yes it does make a difference.

If a person's thoughts and actions can be proved to not be of their own making, but rather are being influenced by outside factors over which they are not involved and have no control, then that should be considered and can be a defense to person responsibility. The criminal law recognizes this with such defenses as diminished capacity and insanity. But these are hard defenses to prove and for judges and juries to accept.

[Callista]

A new thread is a good idea. Shall we call it "TI or karma?"

[Bill Ryan]

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

Sure. To me it's crystal clear.

There are many ways that someone can be influenced... by being targeted electronically (which can be real), by psychic influence (very real), or simply a spouse, friends, or media articles or videos saying or urging certain actions or attitudes.

The point of choice lives within us all, at each moment of our lives, whatever those internal or external influences. (And they're ALL 'external' relative to the sovereign spiritual being that each of us really is.)

[findingneo]

Bipolar Psychosis?
.............................
I can't stop thinking about those poor cats. How people treat their pets says a lot about people.

[Chester]

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

Sure. To me it's crystal clear.

There are many ways that someone can be influenced... by being targeted electronically (which can be real), by psychic influence (very real), or simply a spouse, friends, or media articles or videos saying or urging certain actions or attitudes.

The point of choice lives within us all, at each moment of our lives, whatever those internal or external influences. (And they're ALL 'external' relative to the sovereign spiritual being that each of us really is.)

Thanks for the response, Bill.

You don't say it directly, but what I am assuming is your direct answer that can be deduced from your response is that at least at the level of the sovereign spiritual being... we are all, each, ultimately fully responsible for our behavior (our actions and our words, written and spoken). If this is what you are saying, this is my opinion as well.

More of my own opinion... I would say that at the level of this one life, Samuel Hunter, I have reached the point about five years ago that I concluded I am ultimately responsible for my words and deeds even at the level of this one life and how that affects others through this shared reality we call "3D."

What I then realized was that sophisticated mind hacking tech (if it exists and I am very open minded that it does) which can actually plant clear, precise thoughts "into our heads" where we might initially think that the thought came from that same sovereign spiritual being that each of us ultimately may be (I say "may" because I avoid as best I can the imposition of my opinions regarding unprovable, other worldly matters) - though I must add that this "possibility" is a core operational assumption in my current set of operational assumptions... and thus I adopted an operational protocol which accomplished two things.

The operational protocol is this: Whatever thoughts I may experience, I decide as to what thoughts I wish to "own" (and for how long). It is the thoughts that I chose to own which I am now responsible for because it is possible some thoughts that appear to "arise from within" were placed within me from a third party controlled form of influence (and Bill listed several forms) yet that some are actual, word for word "thoughts" implanted by tech such as has been described by Omniverse and has been written and talked about by Dr. Robert Duncan and also investigated by Dr. John Hall.

The two things accomplished by my adoption of this operational protocol is that when I act in a disciplined way (instead of react as I have done most of my life) such that I examine my thoughts and then make a conscious decision on which thoughts I am prepared to own, I find my actions and words are better for anyone impacted by them (including myself). The second thing which has helped me so greatly that I cannot express the degree... having realized that the thoughts I observe that spontaneously arise may not be "my own," I now no longer experience any guilt or engage in self condemnation for this thoughts. Again, I cannot emphasize enough how greatly this has helped me.

I do though hold myself to extremely high standards as to the thoughts which I choose to won, reserving the right to change my mind. Of course sometimes these thoughts that I have chosen to won are the basis for what then becomes my words and actions. Because I still make all sorts of mistakes and still find myself disappointing in myself, I have clearly not perfected my application of this operational protocol and in fact... I do not expect I ever will. But since I have adopted this operational protocol, everyone in my life has benefited including myself.

[waves]

... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals....

Great post. I had to quote one specific part to ask the following question -

If true... if someone is a TI and then consistently behaves deplorably - does the fact that they are a TI make any difference with regards to their own personal responibility to behave responsibly?

I ask this question to all who might read this post.

I believe that this is the most important question of all to consider and then answer with regards to this whole TI thing.

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

I was paying very close attention to David and many others over 10 years ago and quite a few facts have been forgotten that may shed some light on David.

He admitted having been a heroin addict. He grew up near a military base. There was a period of time when his and Andy Basiago's speech tone, speed, content and affectations were utterly identical when Andy first arrived out of nowhere, the two were absolutely indistinguishable. Suddenly Andy changed into a different speech 'presence'. It screamed software to me. He has continuously cited his 'dreams' as being the main source of revelations and where he is given insider knowledge, never once addressing the military ability to insert dreams... but I don't think there are any at all in the first place. He spent years riding his claim of the huge significance of 2012 and I think it was early last year flat out admitted in a public lecture it was all a lie. His encyclopedic instant recall of vast amounts of complex scientific data also screams software to me.

To me this and much, much more has long added up to being a MKUltra programmed pawn for the military industrial complex. This doesn't mean he's wrong about everything, it means deep muddying, distracting and manipulation/delaying all us annoying seekers ability to get it right. You've got society infecting MKultra 'stars' in the music industry, politics, media, authors and more, and of course, new age charlatan stars like David.

I have completely ignored him for over 5 years now wondering if there's even something dangerous about even exposing myself to his 'something', maybe wordings. Like not wanting to catch something from someone contagious.

[Mike]

I'm just hesitant to answer that question Sammy. I think it's a really good one, but unless we've been mind hacked in some way, I don't know how we can honestly say one way or the other how much choice is still available after all that tampering. For example, Cathy O'Brien didn't appear to have much choice while she was being made to do all those awful things(extreme example, I know) during her exposure to the traumas and tortures of Project Monarch.

I think in most cases your will is slowly eroded. Any wise, effective choices need to be made early, while you still have some personal power. Of course all situations are different. I agree, a new thread would be prudent.

I hope Omni chimes in. I think he's most qualified to answer that

[Bayareamom]

Hi Kristin,

I loved your post. One statement you've made: ..."I worry about these people who are actually believing in this. They were vulnerable, looking for answers, and they give their time, money, and devotion. They have lost their way and will spit in your face to defend it. They are blinded by tall tales and a need for spiritual understanding..."

From what I understand (and others may disagree, which is fine), all souls are here to LEARN. Think of planet Earth as a school of sorts. We all come here to continue learning whatever it is we've not yet mastered, then, when it's time, we leave and go HOME (to a better place, hopefully). So while it may be very, very difficult to watch certain individuals fall prey to the deceptive, at the same time, those same individuals ARE, indeed, on their path re learning and will take back w/them whatever lessons they learned when believing these deceivers.

I liken this to being a parent. It's hard watching your beloved child learning life's harsh lessons. You want to protect your child and do whatever you can and keep them safe and snug, away from all of life's woes. But they don't learn this way, do they? As much as we may not like this, we all learn the most from ADVERSITY. That saying, "What doesn't kill you will make you stronger," comes to mind.

I know many good-hearted souls just want to step in and prevent others from making the same mistakes that they, perhaps, have already made, but as hard as it is to accept, sometimes the KINDEST thing we can do for another soul is to allow them to make their own mistakes, as hard as it is to watch it when it's all going down. This is how we all learn!

Just my .02...

[Mike]

Well said Bayareamom. I particularly liked what you said about stepping away and allowing souls to make their own mistakes.

I think our role here is not so much wasting our energy trying to convince people of the truth or pointing out their errors, but instead to offer up a sane option should they come around to desiring it.

As long as there are people like CG and DW etc spouting their nonsense, I believe we need to provide the ying to that yang. Maybe we can't rescue the ufo community from their contamination, but we can at least - by pulling hard on our side of the rope - keep it from going totally to sh!t

[UfonautRadio]

Mike is right. We are losing good, rational people in this field because of the antics of Gaia and MUFON. I myself have recently thought of quitting the field for good, because being a UFO cop wasn't what I signed up for.

Still, I can't turn my back on a subject I've been involved with for over fifteen years of my life. It's a belief system I can't turn off.

These people are the lowest you can go. EVERY single effort of theirs involves begging for change, and getting it... I can't turn away from it, or ignore it.

[Bayareamom]

Hi Mike,

Wow! Your words really resonate with me. I especially liked your second sentence. Offering up a sane option, should someone be willing to accept it, is sometimes the only way to turn someone around. But having said that, sometimes it IS necessary to allow someone to jump off that cliff, if that is what they choose to do. This is, in part, what freedom of spirit, is all about.

Learning life's lessons isn't dances with rainbows and unicorns. It's HARD work. This life wasn't meant to be easy - for any one of us. It's very painful living down here at times and some of us seem to have it harder than others. But in the end, I truly believe that the kindest thing we can offer any one other individual is their own FREEDOM to experience all that they need to experience, IN ORDER TO GROW.

Again, that's just my opinion, but this is what I truly believe.

[jack]

I love how everyone jumps down David's throat right after he started his expose on the murderous satanic pedophilia that is absolutely RAMPANT in the United States.

It seems to me like an outright character assassination and all taking part in this are suspect. He's focusing a lot on the satanic pedophiles which are very much our problem right now, and he's talking about it knowingly taking his life in his hands because this is not a popular subject and people are being murdered left right and center for even opening their mouths about it.

You all should be congratulating David for his bravery and also his clear and unequivocal gesture of allegiance to the good forces of this world by hitting the enemy where it really hurts and where the enemy will never hit himself.

Again I will say that I find it absolutely mind boggling that any of you would be talking about the Pete Peterson issue right now it looks like an absolute deflection from the very serious issues that David has been discussing lately. Lets talk about the satanic murderous pedophilia that is rampant guys because while you sit here gossiping needlessly about what could be's children are being tortured, raped and murdered in the most horrific ways imaginable.

Remember that because all watching can see who is attacking David right after he set his sights on the satanist pedophiles. We can see you.

Bill I am boggled that you started this thread at this very moment in time over conjecture and condemnation by association at best.

[UfonautRadio]

Bill, how do you do it...

[Chuck]

... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals....

Great post. I had to quote one specific part to ask the following question -

If true... if someone is a TI and then consistently behaves deplorably - does the fact that they are a TI make any difference with regards to their own personal responibility to behave responsibly?

I ask this question to all who might read this post.

I believe that this is the most important question of all to consider and then answer with regards to this whole TI thing.

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

Hi Sammy, thanks for your question. My answer is that I honestly don't know. If I had a gun to my head I would answer that every individual situation is unique, depending on the level of intervention and behaviour modification.

[norman]

. . . . all watching can see who is attacking David right after he set his sights on the satanist pedophiles. We can see you. . . .



I'm hoping that most who are watching have raised their eyes a little higher than that.

[Foxie Loxie]

UfonautRadio...Glad you're staying in The Game. We each have our role to play. Each of us can decide from our own learned experiences which way to turn & exactly where to put our energies! :highfive:

[Chester]

... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals....

Great post. I had to quote one specific part to ask the following question -

If true... if someone is a TI and then consistently behaves deplorably - does the fact that they are a TI make any difference with regards to their own personal responibility to behave responsibly?

I ask this question to all who might read this post.

I believe that this is the most important question of all to consider and then answer with regards to this whole TI thing.

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

Hi Sammy, thanks for your question. My answer is that I honestly don't know. If I had a gun to my head I would answer that every individual situation is unique, depending on the level of intervention and behaviour modification.

And I believe many people would answer similarly. I also understand this answer. Having said this though... I have contemplated what that would mean and what that would mean is that we would always have an available excuse to use for our own unacceptable behavior as there is no way in the world anyone would ever agree with anyone else where that fine line might be drawn as to "are they responsible" or "are they not" - much less a majority of us would ever find agreement.

And sure, there are extreme cases (examples) where most of us would... but I am concerned about the massive sea of "grey area" where I am certain some would side with "they are a victim and should not be expected to take responsibility to stop listening to that voice'", etc. to "regardless of how obvious it is that this person is compromised and clearly under the major influence of directed energy weaponry... they are fully responsible for all their words and actions."

Yet when I consider one of those extremes over the other... the only one that appears to me to offer any true hope for humanity is that we conclude a s a society that each individual ultimately is and then in a case by case basis, assist them to achieve their sovereignity while considering their actual capacity to so do. For those who are less capable, we should assist them ever way we can while simultaneously protecting the greater society.

All the above words are "ideals" and I recognize this very well. I don't necessarily expect humanity to achieve this ideal perfectly. I do think its the only ideal to have in this regard.

[neutronstar]

I would really appreciate folks making an attempt to share their opinion as to my question. Please.

Sure. To me it's crystal clear.

There are many ways that someone can be influenced... by being targeted electronically (which can be real), by psychic influence (very real), or simply a spouse, friends, or media articles or videos saying or urging certain actions or attitudes.

The point of choice lives within us all, at each moment of our lives, whatever those internal or external influences. (And they're ALL 'external' relative to the sovereign spiritual being that each of us really is.)

I have to agree. They can pump anything into your head, but you have the choice to listen to it or ignore it. After all the voice in your head is not who you are, it is simply the ego, or in the case of a TI, it is someone external pumping the voice in threw some device. Either way you have the choice to ack on it or ignore it.

[jack]

. . . . all watching can see who is attacking David right after he set his sights on the satanist pedophiles. We can see you. . . .



I'm hoping that most who are watching have raised their eyes a little higher than that.

Raised higher than what has been described as an epidemic of child sex trafficking in the United States by Attorney General Jeff Sessions?

I find it terribly suspicious that David would be under such attack considering he is one of the few with the courage to speak out against what Ex FBI Chief Ted Gunderson estimated to be the torture rape and murder of at least 500,000 American children each year. By comparison 32,000 people were killed in motor accidents in 2014.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill I am boggled that you started this thread at this very moment in time over conjecture and condemnation by association at best.

Not all that much conjecture. :) The truth is the truth. What David has claimed to be true, in this instance (which I know quite a lot about personally) simply doesn't fit the researched facts.

That's not the best state of affairs for anyone who is trying to expose anyone or anything.


I find it terribly suspicious that David would be under such attack

Given the details now known, I don't believe that either David Wilcock or 'Pete' Peterson are under attack at all from anyone.

[Kristin]

These are great points jack, but no one is "attacking David" due to his research into child trafficking. That's NOT even on the table, don't confuse the issue here. In fact, PLEASE start a new thread about child pornography and what David has uncovered.

[jack]

These are great points jack, but no one is "attacking David" due to his research into child trafficking. That's NOT even on the table, don't confuse the issue here. In fact, PLEASE start a new thread about child pornography and what David has uncovered.

Yes but Kristin this is the issue here. 500,000 children murdered each year is more important then a fundraising scam accusation that if anything David was also a victim of yet I see the thread has filled with attacks on David's integrity when you should instead be applauding him for his bravery for talking about something few have the courage to talk about.

I'm not accusing you of anything Bill Ryan, as im pretty sure that you are not a satanist but do not think for a moment that this forum isnt full of them and they wont jump on the first chance to destroy someone who is doing them harm.

Support the people who are trying to save the children. Don't destroy them at the first opportunity.

[Kristin]

Sorry Jack, but your brave hero is also a lousy researcher and more than stretched the truth here. Not negotiable.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill Ryan, as im pretty sure that you are not a satanist but do not think for a moment that this forum isnt full of them and they wont jump on the first chance to destroy someone who is doing them harm.


Wow, you're on a roll today. Thank you for saying you're pretty sure I'm not a Satanist (I'm pretty sure of that, too :) )... but if 'this forum is full of satanists', then maybe you might prefer to go somewhere else that's full of more decent, angelic folks.

:focus:

[Kristin]

Jack, you need to start another thread on this as I suggested. I'm blocking you from posting on this one based on being off topic, and you really are.

[Satori]

Jack,

Even if, as you perceive it, DW is correct about the issue of pedophilia, it does not follow that he is correct about what he has recently publicly said about Peterson in connection with the unsupported claims DW has made and is making about the "theft" of millions of dollars of Peterson's personal property under the alleged strong-arm of DW's du jour variety of the Dark Alliance.

The essence of what you are saying is: that because the falsity of DW's recent claims about Peterson, vis-a-vis Peterson's personal property (and what was actually a lawful foreclosure/ejectment action), and DW's embellishment of the foreclosure/ejectment by introducing the "Dark Alliance", are being exposed and challenged with objective documentation and other evidence to the contrary, then, to you, the failure or refusal by such people (and anyone) to unquestionably believe DW makes one a part of the Dark Alliance and a supporter of pedophilia.

I can assure I do not support pedophilia in any way, shape or form. I can also assure you that I do not believe a word DW has said about the alleged theft of Peterson's personal property as described by DW. That does not mean I would or do disagree with him on the subject which seems to be so close to you.

Your position is at best comparing apples to oranges. The premise of your argument is false, and, therefore, your conclusion(s) is/are logically invalid. I'll leave it at that...

[7alon]

Thanks for this news on PP Bill. WOW! I considered Pete as one of the brightest, dynamic, genuine, credible and principled whistle blower that you have interviewed. (and perhaps in a way ... still do). I say that because if you believe what Omnisense and others are revealing about voice to skull, behavior modification and remote neural monitoring and control ... it is really tough to know exactly what is going on! Perhaps Pete Peterson and David Wilcock are targeted individuals.... or perhaps not ... Very tough to have a handle on anything anymore.

Wow ... is all I can say. I have a strange suspicion that as the veil continues to lift, that word will be common.

There could very well be brainwashing involved. We all know it is an effective tool to make people believe the disinformation they are sharing. We also all know that disinformation is quite often mixed with real information. That is all I am going to say regarding Pete.

[HaveBlue]

So many posts since I last visited this thread. Some corrections RE: matters of fact,

1. The wee Scottish lass mentioned' name is Holly Greig not Craig.

2. Removing cellphone batteries may well be a modus operandi of 'real whistleblowers' but it is also the M.O of drug dealers, those who buy them and all sorts of other criminal activity. (A casual observer could entertain any scenario about what was going on!)

3. David W said he was a pot smoker in earlier years, never have I heard him say he was a heroin addict. If he has since added heroin to the list, I stand corrected.

He did, probably in black humour jest when requesting payment from Kerry at her 1st Awake and Aware conference say to her 'I need paid so I can feed my 6 crack babies'. Context is important and I err on the side of not taking it too seriously.

4. Just because someone speaks out against something it does not mean they are actually against it. It could be a case of 'Projection'. Mac Beth: I think they protesteth a bit too much!

4. The pics of PP property do indeed look like 40 foot shipping containers and the way they are positioned and the length of time they have been there makes sense that is what they are, however dumpsters of the same size do exist and load from the side, not the end or the top. My local council puts them out one Sunday every 4 months for locals. It used to be free but now we have to pay!

5. Henry Deacon, on the other hand did say he weaned himself off a 160 mg morphine habit. This is not illegal Heroin, but both are opiates. 160mg is indeed quite some 'jack rabbit' (jack is rhyming slang for Jack and Jills (pills) and rabbit means habit, so drug habit = jack rabbit.)

6. None of the above is paydirt on anyones character, however David Wilcock should IMO be FedExed Pete Petersons property as 'inherited' ASAP. He will need to pay shipping on 3 cats, numerous bottles of 'moonshine' and at least 2 possibly 15 large shipping containers of assorted 'antiques'.

7. Slandering people publicly, especially Judges is unwise to say the least. Don't be too surprised if David
W and Sean M are soon cohosting Strange Universe together and often heard interviewing each other.

[Hypothetical]

I find it very interesting how there's so much abhorrence towards another's views on this site. There's a constant buffet of sh*t sandwiches doled out to people, that many of us regard as sources of information we chose to discern information from. Many of them about David ... David does good research, but he's a gullible twit but he means well. I like many people on here were sucked into the whole Charles (Rulers of the World) story line. One could argue Bill should have done a better job himself following his research ideals to discern the Charles' material. I don't look on Bill badly because of how that mishap happened because there is no foolproof way to be 100% confident in the information were provided. Which leads me to remind us of the old adage 'that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'. I'm tiring of all the hit pieces on David, Pete, Corey et al. I prefer to do my own discernment. Too many threads are thinly veiled character assassinations in my opinion. If we can believe in reptilians then we should be able accept that a Cabal could make a foreclosure (stealing Pete House) look like a regular foreclosure.

[Billy]

I'm tiring of all the hit pieces on David, Pete, Corey et al. I prefer to do my own discernment. Too many threads are thinly veiled character assassinations in my opinion. If we can believe in reptilians then we should be able accept that a Cabal could make a foreclosure (stealing Pete House) look like a regular foreclosure.

If you had taken the time to research the court PDF document, you would have noticed that Pete was never the owner of the house. No one stole anything from Pete, all his belongings are still there, Discernment has more value when based on facts.

[Bill Ryan]

Charles

Off-topic here, but Charles was exactly who he said he was.

:focus:

[Desire]

I feel sorry for the cats. Poor innocents.

[Hypothetical]

You're automatically accepting the fact that i hadn't read the court document and you also are inferring that I don't accept facts but neither of those things are correct. I'm simply stating that I could choose to decide for myself whether I want to accept the document as a fact and I do agree it has merit. At the same time however I think it's quite simple to concoct a case that this is simply a regular foreclosure if I had the power of shadow government and I wanted discredit someone. So facts are a loose term especially for people like me that question the motives of a Cabal hell bent on maintaining their control on the population. And yes at some point it gets to a spot where you become isolated and refuse to accept any truth. The powers that be have webbed a perfect storm of control where information and money are the perfect slavery system.

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Charles

Off-topic here, but Charles was exactly who he said he was.

:focus:

We'll have to agree to disagree

[Ernie Nemeth]

Bill, if Charles was exactly who he said he was, then the objective of his stay here at the forum was also clear from the beginning, as stated by him in his first interview with you. He stated that he could get any number of disruptive members to leave the forum of their own volition - and he did...

[Mike]

Bill, if Charles was exactly who he said he was, then the objective of his stay here at the forum was also clear from the beginning, as stated by him in his first interview with you. He stated that he could get any number of disruptive members to leave the forum of their own volition - and he did...


Hi Ernie, I think Charles represented a very rare opportunity to dialogue with the "elites". There was going to be some risk involved with that, and ultimately one has to decide if the risk was worth it. In the moment it seemed worth it to me. In hindsight, I'm not sure.

Maybe a retrospective thread is in order.

[Foxie Loxie]

Are we talking about the "Charles" of the Anglo Saxon agenda? :confused:

[Kristin]

BACK to topic, Please and thank you!

[Chester]

One could argue Bill should have done a better job himself following his research ideals to discern the Charles' material.

Besides the fact there's a far greater set of factual data that suggests Charles (indeed) was the real deal...

Bill and Kerry were trailblazers. People who travel uncharted waters do things that they later look upon as "mistakes" but are actually lessons to be learned from.

I don't follow Kerry and haven't for a long time but I have paid attention to Bill and all I have seen is someone striving to do a better job in every way.

When are folks going to recognize this?

EDIT Added - apologies, Kristin... saw the back to topic post only after I replied to the earlier one.

[Gemma13]

I'm tiring of all the hit pieces on David, Pete, Corey et al. I prefer to do my own discernment. Too many threads are thinly veiled character assassinations in my opinion. If we can believe in reptilians then we should be able accept that a Cabal could make a foreclosure (stealing Pete House) look like a regular foreclosure.

No problem with one being tired of reading investigations into whether people are being deceived by lies to extort money, labour and sanity, because of self serving, self appointed, non-transparent "leaders" of knowledge, information and ideologies - god knows it goes on everywhere and is crushingly overwhelming.

But to those interested in helping our world expose these deceits to help usher in transparency in whatever corner we reside, the topics are not motivationally self serving in gratification for ...I...
They are about ...WE...
And this is where (WE) takes precedence over (I).

Letting the obvious and provable deceptions slide under the carpet because we don't know all the answers to the bigger picture questions is a cop out and is not going to enable us to get any closer to any truth.

If we continually expose dishonesty then over time we have a good shot at prevention of deceit continually being accepted and allowed to take centre stage - and oh what a different world that would look like.

[Innocent Warrior]

"Silence is complicity. Speak now or surrender your ground."

[Nasu]

"Silence is complicity. Speak now or surrender your ground."

Imo, David Wilcock is NOT the spokesperson or protector of any avian aliens / any whistle-blowers / any children / any slaves / any child slaves / any downtrodden / any future secret space retirees / any common law husbands, senile and otherwise / any silent witnesses / the weak / the meek. The evidence shows he can't even look after his own car.

Imo, David is never going to be THE disclosure. David is but a mere mortal, a rather highly strung mere mortal, but Just like the rest of us he too is making it up each day as he goes along and is very far from being perfect.

Unlike the rest of us he pretends that he is above all that and very far from imperfect. That is the point of THIS thread, showing him to be the big fibber that he is. If it bothers you to see your savior or the one that you believe to be somehow righteous, proved to be human / fallible, please look away. If that is you then this thread is not for you.

Look someplace else to see his righteous works at play, or better still, start a new thread about it. I for one would love to read about the wonderful good that David has brought into the world, the many children that he has saved from the elite pedophiles, the vast inheritances he has manged to accumulate through his friends and save from the IRS's deep pits, like a modern day robin hood. I'd like to hear about the downtrodden he has managed to rescue from damnation and all the rest of his messiah like activities. I would be really glad to give a thread like that my "like"

Till then, please, please don't waist anyone's time trying to say that David is anything other than what he is, a mere fallible human, more so a Barnum type entertainer who needs his financial support of his many followers to support his existence, for his disclosure. Don't waist your time writing something most of us won't waist our time responding to.

Someone who, imo, doesn't ever want to have a real job. Said support only comes from his perceived inside info, his drip drip drip of disclosure, so called. My opinion is that it will never arrive, please prove me wrong..

Like I said, if this thread really bothers you, then please start a thread of your own listing his many good deeds and proving us all wrong with his many verifiable accomplishments, his real and true DISCLOSURE of anything at all. I'd love to read all about it.

Till then, for the rest of us, carry on....x.... N

[Innocent Warrior]

Nice post, Nasu, although you have Wilcock in a much nicer light than I can muster. But as the saying goes, if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything, I've decided to go with that (best I can while not being complicit :bigsmile:) ...

:silent:

[Hypothetical]

Kristin, out of respect I assume my challenging the ideal of this thread is best done here otherwise I apologize in advance and no further comment is required because this will be my last post for the unforeseeable future. It is not my intent to instigate but I believe an open minded view of how simple it would be concoct these facts should be at least considered. Instead we accept the simplest of things to doctor as hardened proof and go on to destroy the characters of others whose main goal is no different then ours which is to break free from the chains of control that the Cabal has placed on us. There's a feeling of self righteousness from many of these posts and I fear are egos are getting the best of us.

I admit I do like to focus on positive conversations and this could be one if the message wasn't so one-sided and the hangman hadn't already been sent for. Being positive in life has served me extremely well. At 45 I'm fortunate enough to be a self-made millionaire and retired (it will be short lived my wife wants me out of 'her' house. lol). I accomplished this goal very simply through hard work, seeing the good in all bad and most importantly keeping a positive attitude. An example I'd use to describe the value of a positive attitude is that when I as the owner would walk through my office I'd have a smile on my face, say a good morning to everyone and be genuinely happy. Each member of my team would instantly be able to get back to their work knowing things must be well with the company which wasn't always the case. However if I walked through with my head down, didn't acknowledge the team and looked serious then the opposite was true in so much as the employees were now potentially concerned the business was in trouble. I'm not a fool I get the fact that there is a true evil out there and they have controls over material things but they don't have control over my choice to always see the good in the bad and maintain my choice to be happy. The opposite is always true 'misery loves company'. For sh*ts and giggles a few years back I got certified as a Conversational Hypnotherapist and I know the power of the unconscious mind so if you feel you're being held back from being able to be positive seek one out. It may surprise you what you may unlock in your mind.


Cheers
Karl

[Bill Ryan]

At 45 I'm fortunate enough to be a self-made millionaire and retired.

Well, wonderful! So you're in a great position to support and encourage good work by people who are doing their honest best to help present truth to the community (no matter how unpalatable it may occasionally be).


http://projectavalon.net/donate

:heart:

[RunningDeer]

At 45 I'm fortunate enough to be a self-made millionaire and retired (it will be short lived my wife wants me out of 'her' house. lol). I accomplished this goal very simply through hard work,

...when I as the owner would walk through my office I'd have a smile on my face, say a good morning to everyone and be genuinely happy. Each member of my team would instantly be able to get back to their work knowing things must be well with the company which wasn't always the case. However if I walked through with my head down, didn't acknowledge the team...
Hey! I’m self-made too, and retired. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/yes.gif Though I’m no where near a millionaire, my worth is immeasurable.

I walked away from the money world in 2004 at the age of 54, but not before I made a difference for 27 years with hundreds every day. They went on to nurture their self-made perspectives. Hopefully, they still carry the knowing that outward validation from bosses, spouse, strangers, etc. don't make or break their day.

Much joy on the next leg of your journey, Karl.

[happyuk]

Would it be beneficial to take a cold analytical look at any other interviews perhaps. These elites know what they're doing when it comes to muddying the water and they are very good at it. Bill Brockbrader springs to mind. In fact I would be particularly vigilant about testimonies from any of the supposed super-soldiers or anyone claiming to have been given enhanced abilities.

[PathWalker]

2) It was just a regular foreclosure that had been in process for years. Full documentation here:


http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf

3) As of 24 August, 9 days after Peterson's voicemail message, workers at the house stated they had not yet cleared the house, reported toxic conditions, Peterson had not been there for a while (and was living in Boise, an hour away), and his truck was still there. (See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178319&viewfull=1#post1178319) for the photo.) Not a bulldozer, a pit, or an armed policeman in sight.


Thank you for the update.
Our collective experience suggests: official government documents are subject to modification and 'inaccuracies'.

I would trust better private people, pictures and recording of living traceable people.

I suggest patience and thorough research into the subject. Official documents have low validity. Traceable people testimony and pictures have better validity. Linda Moulton Howe was a recent victim for such kind of "official document" hoax.

[Bill Ryan]

Official documents have low validity.

I do understand your point. But court documents are court documents. This wasn't a briefing from MJ-12 leaked by Richard Doty! :)

[Satori]

Official documents have low validity.

I do understand your point. But court documents are court documents. This wasn't a briefing from MJ-12 leaked by Richard Doty! :)

Indeed. Bill is right.

Anyone at all with a computer and the desire to do so can gain access to and review not only the documents that were posted on this thread, but other related court documents as well. One can access the entire court docket and read what is essentially a log or index of what happened in the cases. I have done so mostly out of sheer curiosity, but also to vet what was being said by DW. What he said did not seem right. And it isn't. (By the way, DW himself referenced a court case and a judge, in connection with whom he made other ridiculous claims about crimes and judges being put away for many years to life by some imaginary lawyer on DW's team.)

This was a fairly run-of-the-mill foreclosure action, followed by an ejectment action, the latter being made necessary because Peterson would not voluntarily vacate the real estate and take his personal property with him. Peterson did not own the house and his personal property was being stored and protected, not destroyed. Photos show storage pods on the site, not dumbsters. No pits and no bulldozers either.

Sure, governments can and do falsify documents. But, falsifying foreclosure and ejectment doucuments in connection with cases pending for about the past four years and with a clear docket and record of everything that took place in the cases....? No way. Why would they? Peterson and his story and where he is at this time in his life are not on TBTB's radar. DW wants you to think it is because it keeps the yarns he spins in public view, so he whips up a "Dark Alliance" conspiracy as needed. Nope, not passing my smell test. That's fiction, not fact on this score.

I'm also amazed, and disappointed by the implications, that genuine, verifiable documents that are the product of lengthy courts proceedings, in which Peterson participated not only in the form of the documents he submitted, but also the hearings he attended, are challenged and tagged fake. Yet, DW and C Goode, for instance, provide no evidence and no documentation at all and they get a free pass and what they say is treated as gospel. That is completely wrong and the implications and effects of that kind of thinking is fraught with peril.

[Praxis]

2) It was just a regular foreclosure that had been in process for years. Full documentation here:


http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf

3) As of 24 August, 9 days after Peterson's voicemail message, workers at the house stated they had not yet cleared the house, reported toxic conditions, Peterson had not been there for a while (and was living in Boise, an hour away), and his truck was still there. (See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178319&viewfull=1#post1178319) for the photo.) Not a bulldozer, a pit, or an armed policeman in sight.


Thank you for the update.
Our collective experience suggests: official government documents are subject to modification and 'inaccuracies'.

I would trust better private people, pictures and recording of living traceable people.

I suggest patience and thorough research into the subject. Official documents have low validity. Traceable people testimony and pictures have better validity. Linda Moulton Howe was a recent victim for such kind of "official document" hoax.

Um government documents are important because they represent what is the officially sanctioned reality. If you can prove they dont actually match reality, then you got something to work with and show people that the government is lying.

Are there fake documents or doctored official documents? Yes.

But to disregard ALL official documents because this is the case. WOW. They are a data point that should be incorporated into the whole picture.

[UfonautRadio]

This thread is a perfect representation of the issue in this field. Many just don't want the truth. Even self made millionaires.

[Joe Akulis]

I'm kind of interested in the paranoia angle.

I'm seeing David exhibit some things--if the things we've found out in this thread are true--that remind me of someone I know who is dealing with paranoia issues. She once was convinced that her next door neighbor had broken into her apartment and stolen her scarf. After I spent an afternoon with her going over some mantras that I coached her to use, about taking back her own sovereign power and stuff, she called me that evening and said she found the scarf hanging in her closet.

She swore she had checked there a number of times and it was not there. I think her mind convinced her that she was not seeing it. Ironically, this reminds me of a cool experiment I read about in one of Wilcock's books where a hypnotist told a guy under trance that he didn't have a daughter. When we woke the guy up, he had his daughter walk into the room and the patient gave no indication that he even saw her.

Then the cool part: The hypnotist put an index card behind the daughter's back, so that she was standing between the patient and the card, and the patient was able to read everything written on the card.

We seem to be just brushing the surface of our understanding of "if you have faith the size of a mustard seed" when it comes to what the mind can influence in our reality.

I see some signs of things like this with David now. Sort of like, I'm up against the cabal, so everything thing I encounter all day long could be a trap. They're out to get me.

Well, the universe has a way of confirming your beliefs if your faith in them is that strong.

[Bill Ryan]

this reminds me of a cool experiment I read about in one of Wilcock's books where a hypnotist told a guy under trance that he didn't have a daughter. When we woke the guy up, he had his daughter walk into the room and the patient gave no indication that he even saw her.

Then the cool part: The hypnotist put an index card behind the daughter's back, so that she was standing between the patient and the card, and the patient was able to read everything written on the card.

Just for reference, David Wilcock got that from Michael Talbot's masterwork, The Holographic Universe.

The story about the hypnotist is here:


http://projectavalon.net/The_Holographic_Universe_Michael_Talbot_p141_hypnotist_story.pdf

Corey Goode (interestinglyl) features in a similar anecdote re paranoia. From this post of mine (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84013-What-to-Believe.........--Wilcock-interviews-Corey-Goode-on-GaiamTV-July-2015-&p=983333&viewfull=1#post983333) in 2015:

~~~




My first encounter with Corey Goode was in 2006, when he was a Project Camelot follower. I have all our early e-mail correspondence. He made it known he was an IT specialist, and a sensitive and controversial issue came up (connected with the Serpo affair, that was very heated at the time) in which I wanted to correctly identify IP addresses from several different e-mail headers, some from government contacts.

Corey was able to assist me with that, but the very next day he wrote to me saying he had to break off all contact because he and his wife had returned home one evening and found all the lights left on. He was very anxious, and felt it was a warning.

A while later, he wrote back to me saying that I could be reassured that it was all a false alarm, as his wife had reminded him that he had left the lights on himself.

This is a true story.
:focus:

[Flash]

Very interesting

This is called an "acte manqué" in French, which means that we unconsciously want to sabotage something. Too many of these are definitly signs of psychological imbalance that can have many causes.



this reminds me of a cool experiment I read about in one of Wilcock's books where a hypnotist told a guy under trance that he didn't have a daughter. When we woke the guy up, he had his daughter walk into the room and the patient gave no indication that he even saw her.

Then the cool part: The hypnotist put an index card behind the daughter's back, so that she was standing between the patient and the card, and the patient was able to read everything written on the card.

Just for reference, David Wilcock got that from Michael Talbot's masterwork, The Holographic Universe.

The story about the hypnotist is here:


http://projectavalon.net/The_Holographic_Universe_Michael_Talbot_p141_hypnotist_story.pdf

Corey Goode (interestinglyl) features in a similar anecdote re paranoia. From this post of mine (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84013-What-to-Believe.........--Wilcock-interviews-Corey-Goode-on-GaiamTV-July-2015-&p=983333&viewfull=1#post983333) in 2015:

~~~




My first encounter with Corey Goode was in 2006, when he was a Project Camelot follower. I have all our early e-mail correspondence. He made it known he was an IT specialist, and a sensitive and controversial issue came up (connected with the Serpo affair, that was very heated at the time) in which I wanted to correctly identify IP addresses from several different e-mail headers, some from government contacts.

Corey was able to assist me with that, but the very next day he wrote to me saying he had to break off all contact because he and his wife had returned home one evening and found all the lights left on. He was very anxious, and felt it was a warning.

A while later, he wrote back to me saying that I could be reassured that it was all a false alarm, as his wife had reminded him that he had left the lights on himself.

This is a true story.
:focus:

[Wind]

I'm seeing David exhibit some things--if the things we've found out in this thread are true--that remind me of someone I know who is dealing with paranoia issues.

I see some signs of things like this with David now. Sort of like, I'm up against the cabal, so everything thing I encounter all day long could be a trap. They're out to get me.

Showing signs of paranoia or having delusions of grandeur?

[Al Borealis]

Seems to me all the conmen, crazies, and disinfo agents out there has an open mike over at this Jimmy Church fellow. A few may be by mistake and poor judgement, but at some point it becomes a pattern. Just an observation, I'm not that familiar with Church.

[HaveBlue]

'Charles' info about a giant computer simulating the whole world is correct. Alex Jones has talked about such equipment himself on a few different occasions. That was the gist of his interview with Bill and I can't fault that as being wrong info.
What came after that is another matter. Charles was not the same interview as The Anglo Saxon Mission' and should not be confused as the same, which incidentally has been on my mind a lot lately. It is one interview I have never forgot. I do think it will play out or some version of it when the controllers are ready. Charles just happened to have seen Bills talk about the Anglo Saxon Mission and commented that he agreed with what Bill had said. Charles never said anything that wasn't already out there on the web already.

Charles was who he said he was is very easy to believe because he only claimed to be a soccer (football) hooligan and all round thug and standover man for other more well heeled men.
Charles attempt to hijack Avalon was a deluded, uninformed piece of moronity I still roll my eyes about!
It was never going to work and was doomed from the start. He actually did this forum a favour because all he achieved was taking those with him that would have been eventually helped out the door anyway!

[HaveBlue]

I have a hard time believing that. Nobody could ever convince me I don't have a daughter, let alone some stranger. Maybe if he was drugged with something pretty severe, but just plain old hypnosis? I say it was staged for the TV show, just like those TV psychics who to this day have never solved any murder of found one missing person, despite claiming all sorts of success, they never specify who they found and when. Youtube has a lot of exposes' about magicians and audience plants etc...along with the editing and cobbling together of the mundane to make it all very exciting

Very telling about Corey Goode leaving his own lights on and needing to be told by someone else it was himself that did it. That sort of says it all in one sentence. That the guy has a poor memory of his own actions and likes to make a big deal over nothing. Another case of maybe taking drugs, even plain old cannabis for that sort of forgetfulness, and accompanied paranoia!

I notice Corey has a lost, concerned and rather paranoid look on his face all the time. I don't see him relaxed, ever. David Wilcock makes a suggestion, and Corey obliges. That seems to be the 'interview' process with those two. Pete Peterson also has the same 'nervous as a cat' look too when appearing on Davids TV show.

[Sequoia]

I notice Corey has a lost, concerned and rather paranoid look on his face all the time. I don't see him relaxed, ever. David Wilcock makes a suggestion, and Corey obliges. That seems to be the 'interview' process with those two. Pete Peterson also has the same 'nervous as a cat' look too when appearing on Davids TV show.

Ain't that the truth! We are on the same wave-length here bro, the same thing always turned me off too. You said what I always thought, simple but profound observation about by these above named lost puppies..I mean, charlatans.

[KansasGirl]

I notice Corey has a lost, concerned and rather paranoid look on his face all the time. I don't see him relaxed, ever. David Wilcock makes a suggestion, and Corey obliges. That seems to be the 'interview' process with those two. Pete Peterson also has the same 'nervous as a cat' look too when appearing on Davids TV show.

Ain't that the truth! We are on the same wave-length here bro, the same thing always turned me off too. You said what I always thought, simple but profound observation about by these above named lost puppies..I mean, charlatans.

Did you all watch the panel discussion from this year's MUFON conference? Corey Goode was on the panel with Michael Salla, William Tompkins, Richard Dolan.....I don't remember everyone but you all probably watched it too. Corey Goode barely said 2 sentences. He looked completely uncomfortable, but what was more telling to me was how little he said when asked questions. His first response sounded memorized, and then his other responses sounded to me as if he was trying to say as little as possible. I would too, if I were bamboozling the public and happened to be in the presence of an audience who didn't necessarily believe my crap.

[Gemma13]

The multi-million dollar global marketing campaign for the Spiritualist Disclosure Niche is creatively capitalizing on ONE BUZZ WORD that somehow magically absolves them from ever having to produce a shred of evidence, let alone personal behaviour credibility; and their "communities" are the driving force because it is a word that is felt by and applies to every person on the planet regardless of context:

EXPERIENCER

Corey opened with this at Mufon which instantly disabled evidence based researchers from engaging with him whilst giving false validation to the audience that he deserved to sit at this particular table.


The DISCLOSURE EXPERIENCER CULT are going to be in for a devastating shock when the TRUE EXPERIENCES OF COREY GOODE et al are revealed.  And they will be.

Like previous cults it's only a matter of time.  We recently witnessesed another cult outing not that long ago via Zen Gardner.  Not everyone who is unfortunately caught up in these movements stays in them forever and then there are brave ex-followers who step up and tell it like it really is which gives investigators everything they need to prove out and dismantle cults bit by bit - or in some cases with one almighty blow!

[Carmody]

If one has never read Lynn McTaggart's book "the Field', it is a thing that should be done.

It lays out the scientific groundworks for what you are dealing with in all these cases. It lays out the interconnectedness in scientific terms.

A lot of the mystery aspects can disappear and a frameworks of understanding can emerge, in a scientific way. Which is critical to be able to know where one is stepping from, standing on/in, and moving to.

More data with more correlation brings about a clearer view with more shape to it.

Otherwise we are going in circles with too may unknowns and no real way of framing or ordering them.

Scientific discipline applied to these areas can be astoundingly helpful.

[turiya]

If one has never read Lynn McTaggart's book "the Field', it is a thing that should be done.

It lays out the scientific groundworks for what you are dealing with in all these cases. It lays out the interconnectedness in scientific terms.

A lot of the mystery aspects can disappear and a frameworks of understanding can emerge, in a scientific way. Which is critical to be able to know where one is stepping from, standing on/in, and moving to.

More data with more correlation brings about a clearer view with more shape to it.

Otherwise we are going in circles with too may unknowns and no real way of framing or ordering them.

Scientific discipline applied to these areas can be astoundingly helpful.

With this, I would certainly agree.

Often times I've seen various so-called 'scientists', 'scholars', 'philosophers', 'pundits' & other of the 'logically-minded' running very, very close to that blurred borderline that separates objective reality from that which is called another's subjective reality. And often times, these same individuals waffle back & forth over that line when it suits their own belief system & then back across to the other side when it doesn't suit.

The following I posted on August 5, 2017 on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99009-The-Mantis-Alien--Insectalin--Hybridization-Agenda&p=1171235&viewfull=1#post1171235). This was one month before Bill had started this The Truth about 'Pete' Peterson (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe) thread.


Regarding this GaiaTV / Wilcock interview
with Pete Peterson:

Apologies go out to all those Zecharin Sitchin fans that would be more than willing to jump on board the 'Reptilian & Mantis are Real' bandwagon, as it has been promoted in this GaiaTV / David Wilcock interview with Pete Peterson.

I have to say, a red flag immediately went up for me when David Wilcock steered the direction of the interview into what I have previously called the "Zecharia Sitchin / Annunaki: The Creator-gods of Humanity / Gold Mining Slaves / Nibiru koolaid punch Bowl." And as revealed by Pete Peterson - in his own words - has obviously shown that he consumed his fair-share amount of. Or perhaps, even more typical would be to say that Pete Peterson had been paid to say what he did. This, in itself, is enough to "throw the towel in the ring", and discredit whatever else comes out of Pete Peterson's mouth.

I must admit that I have a personal respect for the man after seeing the 2009 Project Camelot interview of Pete Peterson, at least for what he portrayed himself to be. By this I mean: his statements of patriotism, his support for this American Constitutional Republic, his list of supposed accomplishments & genius for what he had supposedly done for humanity, and his warnings of a coming collapse of the world economy.... All of which makes absolute sense to me.

However, Pete Peterson's mention of the Annunaki having come to this planet for their supposed lust for gold (to supposedly prolong their already extensively long lives), as being the creator gods of humanity for the purposes of mining for that gold... this but wreaks & smells badly of Zecharia Sitchin folklore fantasy. It is quite disappointing to see that Pete Peterson, being a man of his supposed caliber, has bought into such fantasy fiction nonsense and accepting it as being a true reality. A red flag immediately was raised.

David Wilcock plays his part to a 'tee' in his attempts to mislead his audience in the way he phrases his lead-up to the question that he queries to Pete. The specific question is tainted with bias when he poses the following to Pete in the following way:

"So, when we go back to the Cuneiform Tablets of Sumerian texts, MOST of the conventional scholarship on that now is in agreement that these Annunaki were some type of extraterrestrials, and they specifically were coming to Earth to steal our gold.

Do you have any comments on that?" (Emphasis mine.)
This is an absolute misleading statement by Wilcock, as we have a prominent scholar, Michael Heiser, drawing his own investigative conclusions into Zecharia Sitchin's credentials relating to his qualifications for correctly translating the Sumerian cuneiform tablets...

Be sure to also have a look on Michael Heiser 's website > Sitchin is Wrong (http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm): Zecharia Sitchin's Errors: An Overview


Zechariah Sitchin has NO Credintials
Michael Heiser
(Published on Feb 1, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZkkNHR1p6k

There are a number of interviews that Michael Heiser has made that can be found on the internet, all debunking Zecharia Sitchin proposed theories regarding the outlandish things he has said in his several published books.

It must also be brought out that Zecharia Stitchin was a member of the Illuminati, as revealed in the following video clip...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2ybmocVfo

This embellished bias is typically the style on which David Wilcock has come to be masterly quite good at - in this form of deceit - adding embellishment(s) in his making overblown statement(s) to match his own self-promoted theory, as if it were indeed the truth. For it can be clearly seen that David's use of the word phrase 'Most of conventional scholarship' - better & more correct to replace it with 'Some or Few of conventional scholarship'.

The interview goes on & does make it a bit confusing as its title and subject matter relates to 'Three Fingered Technology'. In the interview, Pete states that most all aliens have three fingers. And that these type of aliens with three fingers are most prevalent. And describes them as being artificial life forms, robotic in nature, in the service of other entities. Then later in this same video he moves into describing the 15 different types of aliens that were on board this second craft that was found beneath the icy surface back in the early 1940s. And that many were shot & killed by Germans. Peterson then moves on to describe these different races by his mention of an insect variety.

Now, it must be said that it is quite unclear as to whether Pete Peterson is still talking about a robotic biological life forms when he starts talking about the 15 different kinds of aliens that had apparently shared this particular spacecraft?


Regarding this GaiaTV Wilcock interview with Pete Peterson (Excerpt taken from Post #188 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4417-The-Saga-of-Dr.-Pete-Peterson&p=1170963&viewfull=1#post1170963) from another thread & posted below in part):


David: So when we go back to the cuneiform tablets, the Sumerian texts, most of the conventional scholarship on that now is in agreement that these Anunnaki were some type of extraterrestrials and that they specifically were coming to Earth to steal our gold.

Do you have any comments on that?

Pete: We, as a race, exist only because we were designed to be gold miners. That's why we exist.

We were a genetically-manipulated cross-breed of the Anunnaki and . . . I'll give you an example, which is easy to tell.

I think we have about 92% of the same DNA as the chimpanzee.

David: Chimpanzee DNA is 98.8% similar to human DNA.

Pete: Yep. And very early people were not fair of look and bred by the Anunnaki. Ha, ha. They bred a lot more into us.

And that's why a lot of the aliens . . . I mean, you know, we're bipedal. We have hands, We have fingers. We have two ears, two eyes, two nostrils, one mouth.

And we look at a good part of the aliens and they're exactly the same.

David:Right. So, just to be clear, are you saying that the Anunnaki bred us out of something like a chimpanzee and then mixed their own DNA with it?

Pete: We were somehow bred into what had the DNA . . . similar, obviously very similar, to chimpanzee. It gave us the ability to squat down, get in small . . . Gold usually appears in very small cracks.

You follow the crack up through the Earth. It came up with water and then set up.

And remember that a lot of gold is found in quartz. Most gold is found in a quartz deposit.

David: Hm.

Pete: Quartz is piezoelectric. If you squeeze it, it produces electricity.

David: Right.

Pete: The electricity would do the conversion process. The movement of the Earth would make the electricity that did the conversion process. That's why we find yellow gold there.

David: Do you think there is a relationship between the Anunnaki that we're talking about just now and the crashes that you personally saw in Antarctica?

Pete: Well, I think there is because the Anunnaki were the ones who . . . Imagine a mining claim. Well, the Anunnaki were the first people to find that there was a lot of gold on Earth.

David: Hm.

Pete: So they had a certain claim and were given a certain task by their task masters, who are, very probably, Draconian.

David: Are these three-fingered people still on Earth with us today?

Pete: When I was reverse engineering the controls, I had three-fingered people helping me.

David:Really? What would they look like in terms of their head and face?

Pete: Well, there's a difference in the eye structure because of the inner eye fold between Orientals and Anglos. So you have that kind of difference. It's different.

Lesser nose and different nostrils.

Their mouths are round, kind of like an octopus sucker. I mean, they're more round than ours.

Their food is produced by them eating food and excreting an excretion that comes off their skin. And they scrape it off and eat it.

David: Hm. Is there anything about the head that we should know about?

Pete: Well, it's different, but it's very much the same.

David: What's the color of the skin of these beings that you personally interacted with?

Pete: Well, they are differing colors. I've seen them look almost like aluminum. And I'm not sure but what they might not be, you know, might be aluminum. They might be clones, because they tend to clone these people.

And they are clones, by the way. This is why their whole feeding system works differently than ours does.

David: Hm.

Pete: They're actually like robots, but they're more biological than non-biological.

David: Hm.

Pete: I have kind of clandestinely measured the electric fields to kind of get some information, and I can't find any different . . . much different than the human electric field.

David: Are there any known places on Earth where these people or creatures might have been?

Pete: Yep. Arctica, Antarctica, Alaska, Canada. Most people don't know, but the Yukon and the Northwest Territory are not part of Canada. They're owned by the . . . whoever the sovereign of England is. They're directly . . . They're privately owned.

But that's where most of the gold is found. Surprise, surprise.

David: Ha, ha.

Pete: Ha, ha.
No. Really, the laugh is on you guys!
:)



In Defense of Pete Peterson

In playing a bit of the "devil's advocate" on this just to balance out the narrative somewhat....
So, in running down the list on some of the numbered points in the OP of this thread....


1) There is strong reason to believe that Peterson was lying (knowingly) or confabulating (because of some mental incapacity) when he told David Wilcock, reported on the 16 August Jimmy Church interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsBUyEqBgtM), about the presence of armed police, how his belongings including his truck were being seized, and much of it was being bulldozed into a pit. Extract here:


http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peters...ugust_2017.mp3 (http://projectavalon.net/Pete_Peterson_incident_voicemail_August_2017.mp3) (3 mins)

As was noted above, David Wilcock's style & method of reporting is typically filled with embellished, over-blown, exaggerated statements, so as to fit with what his promoted concepts / theories are attempting to prove. Since the audio mp3 excerpt is not a recording of what Pete Peterson has said, but of what David Wilcock is reporting, then it can be safely construed that the confabulating is coming from DW, and was not coming from Pete Peterson.


2) It was just a regular foreclosure that had been in process for years. Full documentation here:


http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf

Now, in looking over the court documents pdf file, it appears it was not entirely a "regular foreclosure". For it is further noted that Pete was living with a woman by the name of Michelle F. Mims who seemingly passed away in May, 2010 at the age of ~ 60.

I would like to ask Bill if he had come into contact with Michelle Mims when he had interviewed Pete back in 2009?

For, if Michelled Mims was having health issues at the time, this may have played a role in Pete's response to questions.

Also, it is noted that according to Pete's side of the documentation, Pete had "community property interest in the property" at 126 West Castle Creek Road, Garden Valley, Idaho due to his common law marriage status with Michelle Mims. Idaho does recognize common law marriages as shown below.

ICJI 911 COMMON–LAW MARRIAGE DEFINED



INSTRUCTION NO.


Idaho recognizes what is called a "common-law marriage". There are four requirements for a common-law marriage.
First, the man and the woman both must have been eighteen years of age or older and unmarried.
Second, they must have consented to be husband and wife. Such consent need not have been made in any particular way. It can be shown by evidence that they agreed orally or in writing to be husband and wife, or it can be implied from their conduct.
Third, after they consented to be husband and wife, the parties both assumed marital rights, duties, and obligations to each other. This requires that they lived together as husband and wife, treated each other in a manner typical of married people, and held themselves out as husband and wife.
Fourth, the man and woman consented to be husband and wife and they assumed marital rights, duties, and obligations while they were living in the State of Idaho.

Comment

Idaho does not recognize common law marriages formed after January 1, 1996. Wilkins v. Wilkins, 137 Idaho 315, 48 P.3d 644 (2002); I.C. §§ 32-201, -301.

I.C. §§ 32–201 to 32–203. The consent to be married can be express or implied. Metropolitan Life Ins. Co. v. Johnson, 103 Idaho 122, 645 P.2d 356 (1982). What constitutes the assumption of marital rights, duties, or obligations was addressed in Freiburghaus v. Freiburghaus, 103 Idaho 679, 651 P.2d 944 (Ct. App. 1982).

A marriage is void from the beginning if it is incestuous (I.C. § 32–205) or between first cousins (I.C. § 32–206). Under certain circumstances, a polygamous marriage can become valid (I.C. § 32–207). Even if one of the parties were shown to have been married previously, however, the presumption of validity operates in favor of the second marriage. Warner v. Warner, 76 Idaho 399, 283 P.2d 931 (1955). Thus, where it was shown that the wife was previously married, had filed for divorce, and the action had been dismissed, the evidence did not show that she was married at the time of her second marriage because it did not show that her former husband had not obtained a divorce or that she had not filed a second divorce action. Nicholas v. Idaho Power Company, 63 Idaho 675, 125 P.2d 321 (1942). If any of these issues are raised, the instruction will have to be amended accordingly.

If the consent and assumption of marital rights, duties, and obligations occurs outside the state of Idaho and the parties thereafter live in Idaho, there can still be a common-law marriage. In re Foster, 77 Idaho 26, 287 P.2d 282 (1955). Merely visiting Idaho may not be sufficient, however. In re Marriage of Wharton, 639 P.2d 652 (Or. Ct. App. 1982). The instruction should be amended accordingly. It is noted in Pete's statement(s) that Bank of America refused to accept further mortgage payments that were coming from Pete. In doing so, it is claimed that the bank waived its right to foreclosure when they estoppelled Pete from making further payments in January 2011.

Its obvious that the bank was no longer interested in receiving payments for the property, but sought to get the property back in their hands for reselling purposes. Pete Peterson never defaulted on making payments on the property that he had an interest in due to his common law marriage to Michelle Mims. Its unfortunate that the court sided with the bullying tactics used by the Bank of America in this matter.

Bank of America is quite well known for its underhanded methods used in jilting people out of their property. A few articles of interest:

Bank of America Smacked with Foreclosure Fraud Lawsuits (http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/bank-of-america-smacked-with-foreclosure-fraud-lawsuits?news=844158)

Bank of America Forecloses on Houses without Mortgages (http://www.allgov.com/Controversies/ViewNews/Bank_of_America_Forecloses_on_Houses_without_Mortg ages_100215) (by Noel Brinkerhoff and David Wallechinsky, AllGov)

New WhistleblowerCcases Allege Continued Bank Fraud (http://www.iwatchnews.org/2012/03/09/8359/new-whistleblower-cases-allege-continued-bank-fraud) (by Amy Biegelsen and Emma Schwartz, iWatch News)

Mackler Civil Fraud Lawsuit against BoA (https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/323989/bofawhistleblower.pdf) (pdf)

Lagow Civil Fraud Lawsuit against BoA (https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/323984/kyle-lagow-countrywide-complaint.pdf) (pdf)


3) As of 24 August, 9 days after Peterson's voicemail message, workers at the house stated they had not yet cleared the house, reported toxic conditions, Peterson had not been there for a while (and was living in Boise, an hour away), and his truck was still there. (See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178319&viewfull=1#post1178319) for the photo.) Not a bulldozer, a pit, or an armed policeman in sight.Again, David Wilcock has a modus operandi of exaggerated, embellished statements in an attempt to promote his conjecture & theories.

From Post #6 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178205&viewfull=1#post1178205):


Neighbors described Peterson as a hoarder and stated that he might be mentally unwell.Now from the 2009 Camalot interview Part 1 of 3 with Pete Peterson @59:56:

Pete Peterson:

"I moved here because I was told by various people that I should relocate & be in an area that would be safe when we got eventually a financial, and therefore, political collapse. And so, there have been certain things that I've done to make sure that myself, my family, my friends are safe from that.

The question that David just asked is a little bit different - having to do with the fact that numerous ones of us have heard a bit of apocalyptic things in the future, ranging from the fact that supposedly in the year 2011, or 2012, we have the end of the Mayan Calendar when we have an apocalypse coming.

People who are apocalyptic Christians are about the same thing - that the End-Times are here, or are coming. We've heard very dire things about the economic posture of the United States & the whole world. And we see things happening. We see Iceland, for example, declaring bankruptcy.

And I hear from people that I know in the banking system that a number of the European States are going to following them into bankruptcy.... when the U.S. currency fails - which I can't imagine that it won't - because we've printed so much currency and put it out there that is backed by nothing. Its all beginning to come home to roost (as in chickens), the T-bills & the bonds are coming back to us, you know, and I can't see what's going to happen there.... yada...yada...yada..."So, as anyone can clearly see, Pete Peterson is talking like one who is a 'prepper' - one who is planning for the hard times that are coming & those times are just around the corner.

Now, there are those that are quite content in their "ignorance is bliss" state of mind - thus, keeping their head buried in the sand, so-to-speak. And these people are those that would call such people who store food & supplies for emergency situations, as what a "prepper" does, as what Pete Peterson was doing - they would call such a person as being a "hoarder".

In other words, Pete Peterson has some neighbors that don't agree with the way that Pete sees what is possibly coming on the horizon. Obviously, such people would view such a person - a "prepper" - as being someone that has a "loose screw" in the head - i.e. a nut-case! Or, as stated above "mentally unwell."

And so, extrapolating out any other statements that would be coming from disagreeing neighbors, like "mice jumping out of boxes" (boxes that would contain food storage items) or "dead cats," these statements would also need to be suspected of carrying somewhat of a biased quality.

With Pete's truck being on the property without Pete, then this may also mean that he could have been taken by possibly an emergency vehicle to Boise, Idaho.


https://www.boise.va.gov/images/rotate1_VISN20_Boise.jpg

As, Pete Peterson did say in that legal document pdf (http://projectavalon.net/CV2015151.pdf) that at times he had to go to Boise for medical treatments. So, this is still a question that needs an answer to it. How did Pete Peterson leave his residence without his truck?

From Page 22:
#7 Defendant Gary D. Peterson and John and Jane Does 1-10 claim that Plaintiff's attorney Derrick J. O'Neill was the same attorney on the Boise County Case No. CV-2012-72.
http://www.curezone.org/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/JORDAN_MAXWELL/126_W_CASTLE_CREED_RD_GARDEN_VALLEY_ID_83622_8032_ circled_red.png (http://newhousehuntersnet.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/9/9/23990942/id-_boisecounty.pdf)

Page 23:

#10 Defendant Gary D. Peterson and John and Jane Does 1-10 claim Plaintiff and Plaintif's attorney has know and continues to know Defendant Gary D. Peterson's name and his physical and his Post Office Box address, as well as house phone number and cell phone number, as well as the knowledge in that Defendant has to spend significant time for treatments at the Veterans Administration hospital.
Trust me, I am not a fan of GaiaTV, David Wilcock, or Corey Goode. All that I am pointing out here with Pete Peterson, is that there are possibly some reasonable explanations for the apparent picture that is being shown of him. Things are not all of what they appear to be.

The end of playing Devil's Advocate.















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[Satori]

Nice post Turiya. That took some thought and time.

I agree with you about DW and I do not necessarily disagree with you about Peterson. From what I know, I do not see Peterson as a wrong-doer in any way. I wish no harm to Peterson at all and I bid him well. In contrast, I certainly have called DW out on his false claims and spin on the foreclosure/ejectment action in which Peterson was and is involved.

The Mims/Peterson foreclosure was a fairly routine foreclosure. Any claim otherwise is not accurate. However, what was not so routine was the ejectment action. An ejectment following foreclosure is not unusual, but it is unusual that the judge had to cause 5 writs of ejectment to be issued by the clerk of his court. I'm doing this from memory but I believe Peterson had about two years after the foreclosure to vacate the property. But he did not. The whole process took at least 4 years, which is 2 years or so more than the average foreclosure. And, the ejectment seems to still be underway. He did well stretching things out. But DW is stretching the truth about what went down. That is when and where I take issue.

We can tell from the court record that Peterson had his day in court, including on the common law marriage issue. The court was open to Peterson's arguments, heard him out and made rulings as required by law based upon the relevant facts. Btw: Peterson's common law marriage argument was irrelevant. That is, even if there was such a marriage, that did not give him any greater rights in the property than Mims. The mortgage and note were pre-common law marriage debts owed by Mims. So, being married, or not, could not--as a matter of law--change the result. Peterson had no rights or duties in connection with the property, or if he did, he cannot have any rights/duties in the property that were greater than Mims'. So, even if he was right that they were married, he was in the same position as Mims which was default on the loan and subject to foreclosure.

To take a 4-year long foreclosure/ejectment action and spin it into a gestapo plunder and pillage raid, all sanctioned by an alleged rouge judge, has DW has done, is going way too far. It is simply false. But we seem to be in agreement about DW's proclivity for saying things that are false.

[turiya]

You can call me a persistent fan for the 'underdog'.
Its understood that the actual physical eviction can take a very long time.
Obviously, Pete (quite angry about the outcome) was willing to stretch it out as long as possible.
Thank you, Satori.
(As I have told you before. Your username sweeps me off my feet.
Truly an unforgetable experience is what 'satori' is.)

:heart:

[section9]

This is yet another object lesson in the necessity for those in the Alternative Research Community to police themselves and audit when necessary. It's worth noting that our forum host has shown great leadership in this regard.

He has my thanks.

[DouglasDanger]

When I first viewed the PP interview it left me with two questions/thoughts.
1) this is too good to be true, could PP be a plant to discredit anyone using his information as truth?

2) PP admitted to sucking on a chunk of lead solder for many years how does he not have mental deficiencies from lead poisoning?
Also thinking he may not now but he will in the future.

(I guess if he does have mental problems the answer is in the interview.)

[Kristin]

In this 2009 bio, Peterson states:


http://marketwired.com/press-release/mediag3-welcomes-dr-pete-peterson-software-development-pioneer-accomplished-engineer-1171541.htm





"Dr. Peterson holds an Associates Degree in Science & Engineering and a Ph.D. in Natural Philosophy from Golden State College now known as Stanford University."
And here, it states


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56338696





"Dr. Peterson has Associate Degrees in Science and Electrical Engineering and a Ph.D. from Golden State University in Natural Philosophy, a degree combining Linguistics and Semantics with Quantum Physics as related to Thermodynamics and Information Theory. His thesis is Classified."
Stanford University was never known as 'Golden State College'. Go look.

Golden State College (or University) is the former name of Honolulu University. I wrote to them two weeks ago to ask if Peterson attended there. They have not yet replied.



Bill, having just gotten off the phone with Stanford University I can tell you that he did not receive this Ph.D. at Stanford nor was he ever enrolled there. Stanford also confirms that they have never been called "Golden State College" nor do they hand out "classified Ph.D's" I used Peterson's full real name and DOB for my information. Just a simple phone call for Wilcock or anyone else.

[RunningDeer]

, having just gotten off the phone with Stanford University I can tell you that he did not receive this Ph.D. at Stanford nor was he ever enrolled there. Stanford also confirms that they have never been called "Golden State College" nor do they hand out "classified Ph.D's" I used Peterson's full real name and DOB for my information. Just a simple phone call for Wilcock or anyone else.
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[Callista]

Nice find Kristin!

This now opens up a whole new can of worms as to the validity of anything that Peterson has claimed in the past.

[happyuk]

, having just gotten off the phone with Stanford University I can tell you that he did not receive this Ph.D. at Stanford nor was he ever enrolled there. Stanford also confirms that they have never been called "Golden State College" nor do they hand out "classified Ph.D's" I used Peterson's full real name and DOB for my information. Just a simple phone call for Wilcock or anyone else.
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Good work. Traditional fact-finding methods like picking up the phone are often the best.

[neutronstar]

I guess this shows that it's very important to do a background check and ask for evidence that can back up what a whistleblower is presenting, otherwise it's just a person telling a story that might be true.

Yes, really. Even the first time we met 'Henry Deacon', in late 2006 (real name Arthur Neumann), he placed his documents on the table for us to read, but asked us to be silent when we read them.

He'd deliberately asked us to meet him in a really crowded Pizza Hut at 6 pm on a Saturday evening, filled with noisy children. The very first thing he did was put his cellphone on the table and take out the battery while we watched, and he motioned us to please do the same. He then showed us the documents. One item he wrote on a sheet of paper in pen, made sure we'd seen it, and then crumpled it up again.

That's how a real whistleblower thinks, fears, and operates. (Also see the extremely good Ed Snowden documentary, Citizenfour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenfour): it's very similar in some ways.)

A few weeks later, 'Henry' took us to his local pub in the small village close to the base he worked at, and Kerry and I sat in a corner watching his ex-colleagues come in the door and greet him with surprise. That was also a pretty good check for us. 'Henry' was always exactly who he said he was.

Although I think there is a very good chance he is telling the truth. How far will the deep state go to fool someone. If they did a profile on you, maybe they thought they would have to go to that length to fool you. Just saying.

This goes right into Bob Lazar. I think he is telling the truth, but it is not what it seems. I think the deep state showed him what they wanted to show him, told him what they wanted him to know, and knew that he would talk. I think the whole thing was a psychological operation, and it probably went the way they wanted it to.

At the end of the day we make are best guesses. My guess here would be he is telling the truth but I am not going to drop dead with shock if somehow I found out he was a plant.

[RunningDeer]

A :bump: for Bill. :wave:




In this 2009 bio, Peterson states:


http://marketwired.com/press-release/mediag3-welcomes-dr-pete-peterson-software-development-pioneer-accomplished-engineer-1171541.htm





"Dr. Peterson holds an Associates Degree in Science & Engineering and a Ph.D. in Natural Philosophy from Golden State College now known as Stanford University."
And here, it states


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56338696





"Dr. Peterson has Associate Degrees in Science and Electrical Engineering and a Ph.D. from Golden State University in Natural Philosophy, a degree combining Linguistics and Semantics with Quantum Physics as related to Thermodynamics and Information Theory. His thesis is Classified."
Stanford University was never known as 'Golden State College'. Go look.

Golden State College (or University) is the former name of Honolulu University. I wrote to them two weeks ago to ask if Peterson attended there. They have not yet replied.



Bill, having just gotten off the phone with Stanford University I can tell you that he did not receive this Ph.D. at Stanford nor was he ever enrolled there. Stanford also confirms that they have never been called "Golden State College" nor do they hand out "classified Ph.D's" I used Peterson's full real name and DOB for my information. Just a simple phone call for Wilcock or anyone else.

[geofffxdwg]

I feel Jimmy Church is just as guilty. It was his show. He announced it on the air. Basically it was his platform which enabled all three of them to perpetrate this con. As I recall. David was doing some damage control for Goode. He said "It's impossible that Goode is a fraud" "Because I vetted him myself" or words to that effect. ISMH because moments later he is giving play by play almost live coverage of the raid going on at Pete's place. All lies from the second David got on the air and $52K later and they all want more.

[RunningDeer]

I feel Jimmy Church is just as guilty. It was his show. He announced it on the air. Basically it was his platform which enabled all three of them to perpetrate this con. As I recall. David was doing some damage control for Goode. He said "It's impossible that Goode is a fraud" "Because I vetted him myself" or words to that effect. ISMH because moments later he is giving play by play almost live coverage of the raid going on at Pete's place. All lies from the second David got on the air and $52K later and they all want more.

Just shy of $56,000 - gofundme (https://www.gofundme.com/help-support-pete-peterson) Whistblower Peter Peterson


http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/Dark-Journalist/56000.jpg

[Wind]

I wonder how they split the money from the fraud. Shame on them.

[HaveBlue]

Now this in July 2018, DW claims PP is dying and will never be interviewed again.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CosmicDisclosure/comments/8wp24k/david_wilcocks_resignation_letter/

[RunningDeer]

Now this in July 2018, DW claims PP is dying and will never be interviewed again.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CosmicDisclosure/comments/8wp24k/david_wilcocks_resignation_letter/

Note: Bill added David Wilcock's Gaia TV resignation letter here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103398-David-Wilcock-s-apparently-very-real-letter-of-resignation-to-Gaia-TV&p=1233757&viewfull=1#post1233757).

[geofffxdwg]

They should have just announced it for what it really was. A money bomb to finance DW's wedding. And what a lovely wedding it was. BTW any change left over is going in a fund so they can fight the cabal.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Wilcock also said in that church interview (one of his 30+) that he had some sort of inheritance from Pete Peterson. I wonder if Wilcock leaving Gaia has something to do with Pete getting ready to leave his body, ya know, why work for peanuts when soon there will be a new media company to run?

Is Wilcock Peterson’s guardian?

Also, do we have independent confirmation about Peterson’s health status, or is Wilcock taking someone else’s word for it? He seems fairly gullible.

[Innocent Warrior]

So it’s been just over a year. Plenty of time to conclusively answer the question; is David Wilcock just a credulous, terribly inadequate researcher, or is he complicit in, if not the primary perpetrator of this fraud?

As far as I can see, nobody took Bill up on his suggestion to vet his report by gong to the property themselves. Wilcock himself has neither directly challenged Bill’s report with any evidence to the contrary, or confirmed Bill’s report, apologised, and returned the money to the donors. If I’ve missed anything, please correct me.

Bill (and others) knows his own report is 100% factual, so does Wilcock and Pete Peterson. Any of Wilcock’s most diehard fans, who are aware of this thread, can be forgiven for their wilful ignorance, since they didn’t bother to vet this report themselves and continue to take Wilcock at his word.

Wilcock and Peterson cannot be forgiven, Peterson knows the truth and Wilcock can’t plead ignorance since he has had plenty of time to vet Bill’s report himself. This would be the bare bones of decency since he rallied his followers for the cause to the tune of $55k.

We could, at a long stretch, consider that Wilcock is not aware of this thread, if it wasn’t for ridiculous attempts at damage control like THIS (https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/dark-alliance-in-panic-mode.html) (past example). At the very least, Wilcock could have demonstrated a shred of decency by dropping Peterson as a credible insider, but instead he carries on with the charade, like THIS (https://divinecosmos.com/davids-blog/21021-happening/comment-page-5/) (see “Threats To Insiders” section).

Unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary (or valid argumanets against my assessment), I conclude that David Wilcock has been proven to be both a terribly inadequate researcher and a fraud. Pete Peterson has been proven to not be a credible insider because he’s a liar, and a fraud - that’s if he’s not mentally ill, if he is, as his ex neighbours suggested, then he is being exploited by Wilcock.

[RunningDeer]

Wilcock also said in that church interview (one of his 30+) that he had some sort of inheritance from Pete Peterson. I wonder if Wilcock leaving Gaia has something to do with Pete getting ready to leave his body, ya know, why work for peanuts when soon there will be a new media company to run?

Is Wilcock Peterson’s guardian?

Also, do we have independent confirmation about Peterson’s health status, or is Wilcock taking someone else’s word for it? He seems fairly gullible.

Wilcock: "…all of the things he [Pete Peterson] owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life."



https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

Here's my repost (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178194&viewfull=1#post1178194):


It would be up to GoFundMe to determine whether this constitutes some form of fraud or not. It's a potentially serious thing. $52,000 may have been gathered together under someone's false pretenses.
Thanks, Bill. I'll add two of my recent David Wilcock posts on the topic of his me-me-monEY:

Post One:

It’s beyond words how Wilcock is capitalizing on William Tompkins death. It’s heartless and self-serving. People have got to be wising up to these Paul Bunyan tales.

On the Jimmy Church show, Wilcock said @ 1:47:38 (https://youtu.be/bsBUyEqBgtM?t=1h47m38s):


…all of the things he [Pete Peterson] owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life.


On DivineCosmos.com it's posted (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1218-mega-attack):


David was set to inherit at least a portion of all of these valuables.



http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/Cartoons_Silly/pen-border2.jpg
Post Two:

@ 1:47:38 (https://youtu.be/bsBUyEqBgtM?t=1h47m38s)

David Wilcock: Who in the world would take an elderly war hero like Pete Peterson and want all of the things he owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life.

FFT: Me, me, it’s ALL about me. If Pete Peterson is worth millions, why not sell what he can to pay off debts, reduce overhead, or do whatever it takes to rectify and prevent the situation? IF it’s true that David Wilcock is the sole heir that speaks to his relationship with him. So why didn’t David help his dear friend before he lost everything?

David Wilcock: "...And it’s all being sent to the dump right now. Tomorrow is when it’s going to be done. And it will be crushed by a bulldozer, tomorrow. There’s nothing we can do about it. They’re guarding the site right now with guns and if I or Pete or anyone else goes within one mile of it, we will be arrested…." "…This is happening right now as we’re talking. They are taking stuff out of his house right now and are putting in dumpsters."


bsBUyEqBgtM

[Valerie Villars]

Maybe it's time to go dumpster diving like a real person.

[Tangri]

Wilcock also said in that church interview (one of his 30+) that he had some sort of inheritance from Pete Peterson. I wonder if Wilcock leaving Gaia has something to do with Pete getting ready to leave his body, ya know, why work for peanuts when soon there will be a new media company to run?

Is Wilcock Peterson’s guardian?

Also, do we have independent confirmation about Peterson’s health status, or is Wilcock taking someone else’s word for it? He seems fairly gullible.

Wilcock: "…all of the things he [Pete Peterson] owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life."



https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

Here's my repost (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178194&viewfull=1#post1178194):


It would be up to GoFundMe to determine whether this constitutes some form of fraud or not. It's a potentially serious thing. $52,000 may have been gathered together under someone's false pretenses.
Thanks, Bill. I'll add two of my recent David Wilcock posts on the topic of his me-me-monEY:

Post One:

It’s beyond words how Wilcock is capitalizing on William Tompkins death. It’s heartless and self-serving. People have got to be wising up to these Paul Bunyan tales.

On the Jimmy Church show, Wilcock said @ 1:47:38 (https://youtu.be/bsBUyEqBgtM?t=1h47m38s):


…all of the things he [Pete Peterson] owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life.


On DivineCosmos.com it's posted (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1218-mega-attack):


David was set to inherit at least a portion of all of these valuables.



http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Cartoons_Silly/pen-border2.jpg
Post Two:

@ 1:47:38 (https://youtu.be/bsBUyEqBgtM?t=1h47m38s)

David Wilcock: Who in the world would take an elderly war hero like Pete Peterson and want all of the things he owns which are in the millions of dollars which I was set to inherit that stuff. It would have kept me financially solvent for the rest of my life.

FFT: Me, me, it’s ALL about me. If Pete Peterson is worth millions, why not sell what he can to pay off debts, reduce overhead, or do whatever it takes to rectify and prevent the situation? IF it’s true that David Wilcock is the sole heir that speaks to his relationship with him. So why didn’t David help his dear friend before he lost everything?

David Wilcock: "...And it’s all being sent to the dump right now. Tomorrow is when it’s going to be done. And it will be crushed by a bulldozer, tomorrow. There’s nothing we can do about it. They’re guarding the site right now with guns and if I or Pete or anyone else goes within one mile of it, we will be arrested…." "…This is happening right now as we’re talking. They are taking stuff out of his house right now and are putting in dumpsters."


bsBUyEqBgtM


Hi RunnigDeer,
I just saw this thread,

I am wondering if you ever find out "3 dead cats and pee in the bottles" news' origin ?
(Post #23, 31, 34 ,37)

Hearsay,

Confabulating?

[Bill Ryan]

Hi RunnigDeer,
I just saw this thread,

I am wondering if you ever find out "3 dead cats and pee in the bottles" news' origin ?
(Post #23, 31, 34 ,37)

Hearsay,

Confabulating?

It's all in the first post(s) of this thread. A longstanding Avalon member, part of a small team who were researching all this seriously, happened to live within an easy drive of Peterson's property.

They went to the property physically, and talked to (a) the team cleaning out the house, and (b) the neighbors. Everything reported in this thread is accurate.

[we-R-one]

Listen everybody, everything Bill is telling you is true. I was the person who physically drove to Pete’s house….

Pete’s property was in the process of being cleaned out when I arrived on the scene. There were no sheriffs with guns to greet us and no bulldozers. There was a locked gate at the entrance of his driveway. A couple of workers walked down the road to greet me and my friend when they saw us standing just inside the gate. They were very forthcoming with information, I didn’t even have to ask. Both workers were wearing hazmat masks…that’s how bad it was inside! Below is what I originally shared with a handful of people.

ok, so I found Pete Peterson's house. They didn't demolish it, but it's being cleaned out. Omg you guys, it's bad....we weren't allowed to walk up to the house. There was a guy and gal there who were hired by the bank to clear it out. They were wearing hazmat masks because of the toxic conditions. They told us that the guy who lived there was a hoarder. They had already filled up 2 huge trailer bins...not garbage bins, trailer bins! The guy said he thought it would take 20 more! He also said that Pete was in Boise.

There were two long trailers crammed full of stuff that they hadn't gone through yet! Oh and it gets worse.....he said so far they found 3 dead cats in the house, mice jumping out of boxes and layers of cat feces everywhere. He also said there were jars of pee that the guy had peed in! WTH? Hey said the guy was not mentally right upstairs. He also made mention that the owner was involved in alien topics, but that's all he said.

The property sits on 10 acres on a dead end road. Even though the gate was locked, we crawled through the fence and got the workers attention. We were not allowed to go up to the property for liability reasons so I didn't wanna push it.


There was no ‘joy’ in making this discovery. Like many, I’m both irritated and disappointed in the continued lies and glorified stories infiltrating the Alternative Community. I’ve been urging people to ‘vet’ for years…I even started a thread on Avalon on the topic long ago and this is exactly why. It’s a sad state of affairs for many reasons…Pete doesn’t seem to be a person of sound mind and it appears he’s being/has been exploited. Balanced and lucid individuals don’t live in ‘layers of cat feces everywhere’ or lock their pets inside their home and abandon them.

It’s the perfect example as to why an isolated planet is needed for souls to learn and grow as the individuals involved in this situation are publicly demonstrating in more ways than they even know, why the human race is far from being considered advanced and capable of governing themselves.

[Tangri]

Hi RunnigDeer,
I just saw this thread,

I am wondering if you ever find out "3 dead cats and pee in the bottles" news' origin ?
(Post #23, 31, 34 ,37)

Hearsay,

Confabulating?

It's all in the first post(s) of this thread. A longstanding Avalon member, part of a small team who were researching all this seriously, happened to live within an easy drive of Peterson's property.

They went to the property physically, and talked to (a) the team cleaning out the house, and (b) the neighbors. Everything reported in this thread is accurate.


Sorry,

I didn't see and still not see "3 dead cats and pee in the bottels" in first post. Probabaly, post#23 ,31, 34, 37 writers couldn't see either.

"3 dead cats" is mentioned at post #6 , and "pee bottles" at Post #26. no sourses name is provided.

I am not familiar with this case but when I was reading post# 23 , 31, 34, 37 they consistently asked same question and received different responds. This one, pulled my attention. It must be a realy good reson for this , otherwise it was very easy to explain who was (personaly) witnessed to the scenery. ( now we learned she was we- R- one who didn't need to wait 1 year to come forward)

If it is a "hearsay" nothing wrong with this, but I felt over sensitivity on the subject.

It was a constructive critism and normally should be tolerated with humble.

[Spellbound]

Listen everybody, everything Bill is telling you is true. I was the person who physically drove to Pete’s house….

Pete’s property was in the process of being cleaned out when I arrived on the scene. There were no sheriffs with guns to greet us and no bulldozers. There was a locked gate at the entrance of his driveway. A couple of workers walked down the road to greet me and my friend when they saw us standing just inside the gate. They were very forthcoming with information, I didn’t even have to ask. Both workers were wearing hazmat masks…that’s how bad it was inside! Below is what I originally shared with a handful of people.

ok, so I found Pete Peterson's house. They didn't demolish it, but it's being cleaned out. Omg you guys, it's bad....we weren't allowed to walk up to the house. There was a guy and gal there who were hired by the bank to clear it out. They were wearing hazmat masks because of the toxic conditions. They told us that the guy who lived there was a hoarder. They had already filled up 2 huge trailer bins...not garbage bins, trailer bins! The guy said he thought it would take 20 more! He also said that Pete was in Boise.

There were two long trailers crammed full of stuff that they hadn't gone through yet! Oh and it gets worse.....he said so far they found 3 dead cats in the house, mice jumping out of boxes and layers of cat feces everywhere. He also said there were jars of pee that the guy had peed in! WTH? Hey said the guy was not mentally right upstairs. He also made mention that the owner was involved in alien topics, but that's all he said.

The property sits on 10 acres on a dead end road. Even though the gate was locked, we crawled through the fence and got the workers attention. We were not allowed to go up to the property for liability reasons so I didn't wanna push it.


There was no ‘joy’ in making this discovery. Like many, I’m both irritated and disappointed in the continued lies and glorified stories infiltrating the Alternative Community. I’ve been urging people to ‘vet’ for years…I even started a thread on Avalon on the topic long ago and this is exactly why. It’s a sad state of affairs for many reasons…Pete doesn’t seem to be a person of sound mind and it appears he’s being/has been exploited. Balanced and lucid individuals don’t live in ‘layers of cat feces everywhere’ or lock their pets inside their home and abandon them.

It’s the perfect example as to why an isolated planet is needed for souls to learn and grow as the individuals involved in this situation are publicly demonstrating in more ways than they even know, why the human race is far from being considered advanced and capable of governing themselves.

Every so often I log into Avalon and am blown away at what I find. WOW!!

Dave - Toronto

[we-R-one]

Sorry,

I didn't see and still not see "3 dead cats and pee in the bottels" in first post. Probabaly, post#23 ,31, 34, 37 writers couldn't see either.

"3 dead cats" is mentioned at post #6 , and "pee bottles" at Post #26. no sourses name is provided.

I am not familiar with this case but when I was reading post# 23 , 31, 34, 37 they consistently asked same question and received different responds. This one, pulled my attention. It must be a realy good reson for this , otherwise it was very easy to explain who was (personaly) witnessed to the scenery. ( now we learned she was we- R- one who didn't need to wait 1 year to come forward)

If it is a "hearsay" nothing wrong with this, but I felt over sensitivity on the subject.

It was a constructive critism and normally should be tolerated with humble.


Let me share something with you...the day I went up to investigate Pete's house, I had very little time. I had a house full of people for almost 3 weeks to be exact and we were flying out to an immediate family members wedding early the next day. I was up late pounding out the story including pictures in an attempt to pass on the information to Bill before I headed out of town, there was no time. Upon returning, I had to catch up with my small business, and start preparing for my upcoming trip to Scotland which was only a few weeks out. And you know what, it's a good thing I passed the info onto Bill when I did instead of hanging on to it and 'reporting' myself when I had the time. Because right before my long awaited adventure, I started to get really sick. It's the reason why I didn't go back up there a second time to gather more info. I fought it off as I refused to miss my trip, something we had planned for over a year. I spent almost 3 weeks in Scotland and as soon as I came back it became critically necessary to deal with my health. I was taking medication to alleviate a separate growing problem and buy me time while in Scotland that was causing a secondary problem, multiple blood clots in my legs..seriously painful is all I can say...By the grace of god, I didn't experience a fatal embolism because I should have based on my ultrasound readings done immediately upon my return.

Long story short, and 5 surgeries later, I'm hopeful the worst is over. So forgive me for not being able to 'report' my findings, I was a bit busy for the last half of 2017 and the first half of 2018, lol. Besides, I didn't really see the necessity to interject myself, what difference would it make? Providing the information and getting the story out there was the point and I'm glad I did it the way I did....had I experienced a fatal embolism, the findings would have been lost and you would know nothing of the sort.

'And now you know the rest of the story.....'

[Did You See Them]

It’s the perfect example as to why an isolated planet is needed for souls to learn and grow as the individuals involved in this situation are publicly demonstrating in more ways than they even know, why the human race is far from being considered advanced and capable of governing themselves.

Love this line we-R-one !!

[James]

Also spend any time at old folks homes or Psych wards and you have a lot of very sincere people telling you the most outrageous stuff you could ever assemble, record and peddle at any UFO conference.

So true.

I spent way too much time and money several years ago trying to unravel the Pete Peterson mystery so I could get my paws on one of those Accucomb devices. Unfortunately, I could only verify:

-Pete Peterson’s brief involvement with a really shady telecommunications company called MediaG3, located in Boise, ID. It was headquartered in a strip mall location, and traded OTC on the markets for a fraction of a fraction of a penny. Not sure if it’s still around.

-A Gary D. Peterson invented an acupuncture-related device, I believe called an Accupath 1000, and presented it a few decades ago. After reading the recent court documents, it’s safe to say that Gary is Pete. There’s a holistic clinic in a nearby town that still uses one.

And that’s it.

I checked the list of recipients of the Order of Lenin and did not see a single Peterson. His alleged alma mater, Golden State College, was never synonymous with Stanford University, and doesn’t exist as an accredited higher education institution. And so on...

There’s nothing further I could verify.

And I stopped there, because I realized I was trying to interfere into the life of an older man, likely a military veteran with some tech knowledge, dealing with a type of memory disorder where confabulations are commonplace.

I can only hope David stops exploiting him for personal gain, and that he’s able to seek any potential treatments for what sounds like a very difficult mental and physical state of being to reside in.

[Innocent Warrior]

A warm welcome to new member, midnighthourshow. :waving:

Special report this Thursday at midnight EST on Steven’s YouTube channel (https://m.youtube.com/user/haywiremagician/videos) -

https://i.postimg.cc/rpddQkGJ/38-D121-E8-A228-48-BD-AE69-8-EB618-CB8-C6-C.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The Midnight Hour Show website: https://themidnighthour.home.blog/episodes/

[Gemma13]

Bit of topic, but I heard a snippet of Steven Colbern’s “Cosmic Conmen” episode where he talks about Jimmy Church being stabbed in the back by Corey and not saying anything about it.

My hypothesis is that most people who were intimately associated with Corey would be very reluctant to whistleblow on him because they now know his tactics for spying and recording personal conversations.

It was released, (in the Thomas Crown Blog I believe), that Corey had recorded conversations with Gaia employees, etc. This would be enough to scare off his ex-associates who would have to be wondering what he has on them.

And it doesn’t mean he has anything bad on them, it just means he can dox their personal lives in public creating unnecessary stress and drama in their lives.

This is classic “blackmail protection strategy” and we’ve witnessed Corey doing this to people over the years, so he ain’t gonna stop now. He’s deceitful and will do anything to protect his skin in this game; especially with blackmail/scare tactics used prolifically in government and business.

[Denise/Dizi]

A warm welcome to new member, midnighthourshow. :waving:

The Midnight Hour Show website: https://themidnighthour.home.blog/episodes/

Thank you Rachel! I follow Steven on Twitter. This should be a great show.. I appreciate the heads up.. ( I missed the tweet) Welcome midnighthourshow :D

:waving:

[midnighthourshow]

Here is the link to the show for tonights party. I hope to see all my new project avalon forum friends in the live chat. Party starts at midnight tonight, eastern standard time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k_EayKEyps

[Innocent Warrior]

Here is the link to the show for tonights party. I hope to see all my new project avalon forum friends in the live chat. Party starts at midnight tonight, eastern standard time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k_EayKEyps

Show Summary

(Long intro, skip to around the 26 minute mark if you want to get straight to the investigative section)

The show consists of two main sections; vetting Pete Peterson’s bio, and the donations (foreclosure).

The main claims covered (I haven’t listed all sources/resources mentioned in the show) -


Invention of first commercially available microprocessor based computer and creation of a company called Cyberdyne. He claimed his computer was bought by every major university and computer companies. Eight vintage computer museums, Steven’s computer science professor, and Dave Haynie were contacted - no record of Peterson’s claims were found.
Education. He has a degree from Golden State University/college which is what Stanford was called before it was named Stanford. Stanford was contacted; it was always Stanford and there’s no record of Peterson.
Russian space program. No records found.
Awarded Gold order of Lenín. Russian historian contacted, no record of Peterson.
Prolific inventor. No patents.
Science and tech advisor to Reagan. No record of Peterson found from exhaustive search done by archivist at Reagan library.
House foreclosure donations - local police department contacted, stated no armed police surrounded the house, no police entered, and no belongings were removed from the property by police.

[Mike]

Rach you have 3333 posts. And coincidentally, that's exactly how many times Steven called Jimmy Church a "b!tch" in the first part of the show. Synchronicities everywhere.

(I relished each one, honestly. So true)

This was a thorough ass kicking by Steven. Way to go mate.:clapping: Thanks for all your efforts.

[Bill Ryan]

This link is for Gary Dean ('Pete') Peterson's Obituary.

https://legacy.com/obituaries/idahostatesman/obituary.aspx?n=gary-dean-peterson&pid=193764724 (https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/idahostatesman/obituary.aspx?n=gary-dean-peterson&pid=193764724)

Gary Dean ("Pete") Peterson
1940-2019
Gary passed on July 11, 2019 in Boise. Gary grew up in Boise and attended Longfellow, North Jr. High and Boise High School, graduating in 1958. He attended Boise Junior College, and BYU. He enlisted in the Marine Corp and spent his military time in Viet Nam, and D.C. among other assignments. He married Susan Madsen and they raised five children. They later divorced and Gary married Michelle Mims. Gary and Michelle moved to Garden Valley where he spent the last years of his life enjoying the fresh mountain air and the many good people living there. He was an inventor, a friend and mentor to many. He is preceded in death by his parent, Ernest Dean and Helen Marie Peterson and his second wife Michelle. He is survived by his first wife Susan and their children Randy, Travis, Elyse, Jennifer, and Danielle. Also by his sister, Katholyn Neyle Larson and close first cousins Frank Tussing and Fran Carr, and a number other family members and friends. Services will be held at the Veterans Cemetery at Dry Creek on Friday August 30th procession stating at 12:30 at the gate and get together after the formal ceremony to swap Gary/Pete stories.

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'BYU' is Brigham Young University (Provo, Utah) and is owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).

The obituary, which can probably be presumed to be accurate, seems significant for what it didn't say. There is no mention of a PhD, for instance. There are obviously some legitimately named surviving family members which could be of interest to any serious researcher.