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starlight
11th September 2017, 02:53
https://youtu.be/-JmNKGfFj7w
The MSM dubbed this red carpet interview "bizarre"
Most of us here on PA will totally get what he's preaching. He seems to have awakened and really grasp the idea of reality. I love his attitude about celebrity "icons" - we need more people to think like that.
I found his last statement the most intriguing: "Its not our world. Thats the key. We don't matter... we don't matter."
Take that as you will, but I think this guy may know some things. I'd love to have tea and chat with the guy :bounce:
Chester
11th September 2017, 03:23
Jim Carrey is a mystic.
Justplain
11th September 2017, 03:43
We matter to ourselves. Perhaps we are chattels. Perhaps we are cattle. But when you detach it doesnt matter.
I think that's where Jim is hypothetically coming from.
Also, he is extremely sarcastic of the cult of peraonality..
Good for him!
Fellow Aspirant
11th September 2017, 03:45
Jim Carrey - the clown - has become enlightened and is here shown giving an inspiring and (for me) completely unexpected speech to the graduating class of 2014 at the Maharshi University of Management. He is truly awesome, delivering a message that is transcendental. Jim Carrey - who knew?
"You didn't think I could be serious, did you? Well you don't know who you're dealing with! I have no limits! I cannot be contained because I am the container!"
and ... " As far as I can tell it's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass."
And that's just for a start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V80-gPkpH6M
B.
Daozen
11th September 2017, 04:16
Comedy is one of the highest arts. It circumvents mental blocks and shatters the psyche like nothing else. Comedians can hide many truths in their routines. I always saw Jerry Seinfeld as a high level Buddhist soul. He hides many Buddhist/spiritual concepts in his shows, whether he knows it or not. I guess he does know. His signature phrase "OK Im outta herre." teaches detachment and letting go. He doesn't engage past a certain point. Jerry is always 100% in the moment, focused on the task at hand, whatever that is. As Castaneda reminds us, detachment comes from concentration. A "show about nothing." That's a Buddhist concept. I always thouyght Seinfeld taught people the deep magic of daily life.
BTW, many Hollywood ppl read Avalon and other forums. They have their path, we have ours. Some of them, IMO, are extremely talented, uh "lightworkers" who incarnated into that particular path even though they knew they would have to sign spiritually dangerous contracts. Eyes Wide Shut (which Kubrok died to make) was heavily edited. I think The Believers is a more accurate portrayal of occult America.
Right now its the time of The Awakening, so everyone is hoping for a reset/forgiveness. It's slowly happening. That's why we're seeing lots of stars breaking free from their handlers and starting to talk. It's also, sadly, why there has been a spate of celeb murders recently. This is not an easy time. By signing up with the darks, they forfeited some of their protection. They knew this would happen and they did it anyway because they incarnated to dissolve the power structure. Some Hollywood celebs, despite what they may have done in various Eyes Wide Shut parties, are like elite troops. They incarnated behind enemy lines, so to speak. Tila Tequila was one of the first to break free. Nicky Minaj (partially) did so too. Just writing this so they know we are aware of them and that they are in our thoughts.
I think this will be a long haul but I am always hopeful for peace, however incremental.
findingneo
11th September 2017, 05:28
What you said here Starlight,about what Jim Carey said,
"I found his last statement the most intriguing: "Its not our world. That's the key. We don't matter... we don't matter.""
My response to that is,
I hear ya' loud and clear Jim!
findingneo
11th September 2017, 05:34
I have seen Jim saying things on talk show programs that I have seen online, and the proper response should have been stunned silence from the audience, and hanging on to hear every word. Instead, folk just thought it part of an act. I am sure it was not just canned laughter, or even all encouraged by one of those folk who walk about to encourage a response from the crowd. Folk were totally oblivious to the desperate look behind his stage grin, and to what he was saying.
At least that is what I saw.
It reminded me of a scene from what I would call "the haves" (in contrast to "the have not's") in The Hunger Games.
Simply no idea of what is real and what is not.
sandy
11th September 2017, 08:11
One could also understand that Spirit is not matter and thus does not matter!! :happythumbsup:
Innocent Warrior
11th September 2017, 09:36
Here's parts of the inspiring speech he gave at the Maharishi University, it expands on and clarifies what he was referring to in the video in the OP.
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Link to full speech in the video description and in post #4 of this thread.
findingneo
11th September 2017, 11:44
Just watching your video Starlight. I have not seen Jim since he was a bit younger on any videos. Looks like he is not doing that grin so much anymore and letting much more of himself through, which is a bit of a challenge for the glitzy lady selling icons, but I love it how he is pointing out how shallow it all is.
Jim is the opposite end of the Spectrum to Depp, thank goodness.
Wind
11th September 2017, 12:21
He's been through a lot and you got to give credit to these artists & comedians, they're actually way more deeper than people usually even realize and they can get away by saying many outrageous yet honest things. Also when he talked about how Eckhart Tolle had changed his life I knew that he had already seen glimpses of awakening. I've always found him funny, he's been good in more serious roles too and I've always liked his personality.
Innocent Warrior
11th September 2017, 13:12
Just watching your video Starlight. I have not seen Jim since he was a bit younger on any videos. Looks like he is not doing that grin so much anymore and letting much more of himself through, which is a bit of a challenge for the glitzy lady selling icons.
Hi findingneo - yes, he pretty much says as much in the clip below -
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The audience seems to think he's having a go at conspiracy theorists in the clip below (disregard the title) but the tone of his voice near the start suggests otherwise. Pair this clip with the one in the OP and it seems he's rebelling against the celebrity culture but veiling it with his comedy.
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justntime2learn
11th September 2017, 13:48
Just watching your video Starlight. I have not seen Jim since he was a bit younger on any videos. Looks like he is not doing that grin so much anymore and letting much more of himself through, which is a bit of a challenge for the glitzy lady selling icons.
Hi findingneo - yes, he pretty much says as much in the clip below -
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The audience seems to think he's having a go at conspiracy theorists in the clip below (disregard the title) but the tone of his voice near the start suggests otherwise. Pair this clip with the one in the OP and it seems he's rebelling against the celebrity culture but veiling it with his comedy.
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You were a couple minutes ahead of me on that Rachel lol ... Great minds think alike :wink:
When I saw that episode I thought that took a lot of guts and next thing you hear about his wife. So predictable!
Go Jim!!! You do us proud.
bogeyman
11th September 2017, 13:58
He isn't turning into some prophet I hope, maybe he is just having a mid life moment
BlueMoon
11th September 2017, 15:57
Always remember: There are clusters of tetrahedrons moving around together.
Also:
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Smell the Roses
11th September 2017, 16:48
Yes, I wasn't very impressed. He actually just sounds confused.
Bubu
11th September 2017, 18:12
I think he did
https://www.unilad.co.uk/film/everyone-is-worried-about-jim-carrey-after-bizarre-interview/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
neutronstar
12th September 2017, 01:05
https://youtu.be/-JmNKGfFj7w
The MSM dubbed this red carpet interview "bizarre"
Most of us here on PA will totally get what he's preaching. He seems to have awakened and really grasp the idea of reality. I love his attitude about celebrity "icons" - we need more people to think like that.
I found his last statement the most intriguing: "Its not our world. Thats the key. We don't matter... we don't matter."
Take that as you will, but I think this guy may know some things. I'd love to have tea and chat with the guy :bounce:
A lot of people in Hollywood knows stuff. They just don't say anything because they want to continue to have a career, so they keep their mouth shut. That comes from Rosanna Bar.
Satori
12th September 2017, 01:11
He's had what he considers an epiphany. He's right on many levels, but to most people he chose the wrong forum to go there. But as he said: "It doesn't matter. We don't matter." He does look a bit thin to me and his aging is becoming apparent. I like him, but not his politics.
Daozen
12th September 2017, 01:42
Just watched the 2016 Golden Globe speech posted by BlueMoon. Again, I love the way he's dropping high level concepts like "terrible search" and the constant need of the ego for empty fulfillment :happy dog: in a seemingly off-hand wacky speech. That takes real skill. He makes it look ultra-casual but there's some real wisdom there, just artfully hidden. As these concepts are embeded subtly in the speech, and non-didactic, they can bypass mental firewalls and go deep into the soul. Im not too focused on comedy, but I hope I can reach that level one day. His message hit home much harder than a thousands dry Buddhist texts proclaiming the emptiness of desire.
Fellow Aspirant
12th September 2017, 03:43
I have seen Jim saying things on talk show programs that I have seen online, and the proper response should have been stunned silence from the audience, and hanging on to hear every word. Instead, folk just thought it part of an act. I am sure it was not just canned laughter, or even all encouraged by one of those folk who walk about to encourage a response from the crowd. Folk were totally oblivious to the desperate look behind his stage grin, and to what he was saying.
At least that is what I saw.
It reminded me of a scene from what I would call "the haves" (in contrast to "the have not's") in The Hunger Games.
Simply no idea of what is real and what is not.
This is the classic response of the masses (and the elite) to the clown, the jester. He is allowed to speak truth to power because of his/her acknowledged role. Some listeners will pick up a shard of truth now and then, but if questioned about it, will be able to deflect criticism from others and dismiss it because of the source. Royalty kept jesters in their courts because they understood that the joker could always be counted on to tell the truth, even as the sycophants around them were lying. Such a role also kept the jester safe from harm: he could always claim madness as a defence. Carrey is one of a long line of such truth tellers.
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sunwings
12th September 2017, 05:48
This is worth posting in full.
Fear is going to be a player in your life, but you get to decide how much. You can spend your whole life imagining ghosts, worrying about your pathway to the future, but all there will ever be is what’s happening here, and the decisions we make in this moment, which are based in either love or fear.
So many of us choose our path out of fear disguised as practicality. What we really want seems impossibly out of reach and ridiculous to expect, so we never dare to ask the universe for it. I’m saying, I’m the proof that you can ask the universe for it — please! (applause) And if it doesn’t happen for you right away, it’s only because the universe is so busy fulfilling my order. It’s party size! (laughter)
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meat suit
12th September 2017, 05:59
what a hero.... I guess I am looking at aprox 2 grams of psilocybin added to his existing condition... but yeah the man has done his homework...
https://youtu.be/-JmNKGfFj7w
Wizard Of Ozark
12th September 2017, 06:03
Comedy is one of the highest arts. It circumvents mental blocks and shatters the psyche like nothing else. Comedians can hide many truths in their routines. I always saw Jerry Seinfeld as a high level Buddhist soul. He hides many Buddhist/spiritual concepts in his shows, whether he knows it or not. I guess he does know. His signature phrase "OK Im outta herre." teaches detachment and letting go. He doesn't engage past a certain point. Jerry is always 100% in the moment, focused on the task at hand, whatever that is. As Castaneda reminds us, detachment comes from concentration. A "show about nothing." That's a Buddhist concept. I always thouyght Seinfeld taught people the deep magic of daily life.
BTW, many Hollywood ppl read Avalon and other forums. They have their path, we have ours. Some of them, IMO, are extremely talented, uh "lightworkers" who incarnated into that particular path even though they knew they would have to sign spiritually dangerous contracts. Eyes Wide Shut (which Kubrok died to make) was heavily edited. I think The Believers is a more accurate portrayal of occult America.
Right now its the time of The Awakening, so everyone is hoping for a reset/forgiveness. It's slowly happening. That's why we're seeing lots of stars breaking free from their handlers and starting to talk. It's also, sadly, why there has been a spate of celeb murders recently. This is not an easy time. By signing up with the darks, they forfeited some of their protection. They knew this would happen and they did it anyway because they incarnated to dissolve the power structure. Some Hollywood celebs, despite what they may have done in various Eyes Wide Shut parties, are like elite troops. They incarnated behind enemy lines, so to speak. Tila Tequila was one of the first to break free. Nicky Minaj (partially) did so too. Just writing this so they know we are aware of them and that they are in our thoughts.
I think this will be a long haul but I am always hopeful for peace, however incremental.
I haven't read this whole thread so someone else may have said this but Jerry Seinfeld is a long time practitioner of meditation. Interesting observations.
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Bubu
12th September 2017, 08:39
Just watched the 2016 Golden Globe speech posted by BlueMoon. Again, I love the way he's dropping high level concepts like "terrible search" and the constant need of the ego for empty fulfillment :happy dog: in a seemingly off-hand wacky speech. That takes real skill. He makes it look ultra-casual but there's some real wisdom there, just artfully hidden. As these concepts are embeded subtly in the speech, and non-didactic, they can bypass mental firewalls and go deep into the soul. Im not too focused on comedy, but I hope I can reach that level one day. His message hit home much harder than a thousands dry Buddhist texts proclaiming the emptiness of desire.
I think you are on spot here. The clown has learned the art of subliminal communication. "so that I can end this terrible search, for what I know ultimately wont fulfill me"
findingneo
12th September 2017, 13:22
Thanks to those folk who posted in response to my posts. Yes, that was the illuminutti speech where I did not remember the content, but just the truth telling behind the gags. And the desperation of getting it across to folk who did not hear his words but could only see the joke. I was gobsmacked with how the audience and host could not see it. He was spelling it out.
And yes, thanks for the other videos where Jim is becoming more and more himself. And the comments where he still has to use comedy. I think, yes, he is a Jester, telling the truth behind the jokes, but I very much can see that comes from him, rather than him being used to get that message across. I think he very much knows who he is, knows the fallacy, emptiness and pointlessness of materialism, wrapped up in superficial glitz and illusion of fulfillment through empty seeking of status. He is as sharp as a new razor. He is being direct and using his position to get the message across. He still has to use comedy because that is why he is on stage and why folk listen, but he is easing off the comedy and shedding the superficiality little by little. If he were to say what he does without humor, which, going by what he says, he would prefer to do, to shed all superficiality, he would not be standing there, and to not stand there would mean it would be an end to him getting the message across. The stage does not matter to him, but the message does. He is completely on the ball. I am sure of it. The sanest and bravest. We need more people in the world like him. Thanks Jim.
justntime2learn
12th September 2017, 14:12
Thanks to those folk who posted in response to my posts. Yes, that was the illuminutti speech where I did not remember the content, but just the truth telling behind the gags. And the desperation of getting it across to folk who did not hear his words but could only see the joke. I was gobsmacked with how the audience and host could not see it. He was spelling it out.
And yes, thanks for the other videos where Jim is becoming more and more himself. And the comments where he still has to use comedy. I think, yes, he is a Jester, telling the truth behind the jokes, but I very much can see that comes from him, rather than him being used to get that message across. I think he very much knows who he is, knows the fallacy, emptiness and pointlessness of materialism, wrapped up in superficial glitz and illusion of fulfillment through empty seeking of status. He is as sharp as a new razor. He is being direct and using his position to get the message across. He still has to use comedy because that is why he is on stage and why folk listen, but he is easing off the comedy and shedding the superficiality little by little. If he were to say what he does without humor, which, going by what he says, he would prefer to do, to shed all superficiality, he would not be standing there, and to not stand there would mean it would be an end to him getting the message across. The stage does not matter to him, but the message does. He is completely on the ball. I am sure of it. The sanest and bravest. We need more people in the world like him. Thanks Jim.
Excellent summary to the post!
I think you're spot on!
greybeard
12th September 2017, 15:32
Jim Carrey is enlightened--if you cross check what is said by Tim a member, about enlightenment you will see where Jim is coming from.
Carrey spent a lot of time with Eckhart Tolle who many on the forum will have heard of.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904
Chris
Marikins
12th September 2017, 17:29
I am removing a rumor I heard. Even though someone is a public person gossip is still gossip.
greybeard
12th September 2017, 17:38
What he is saying here is virtually the same as mystics say---"I am not the doer---of myself I do nothing"
https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/jim-carr...103130238.html
Jim Carrey spent time with Eckhart Tolle.
Part of what he said on the link
I’m not a part of it anymore. Dressing happens, doing hair happens, interviewing happens, but it happens without me, without the idea of a ‘me.’ You know what I’m saying? It’s a weird little semantic jump, and it’s not that far, but it’s a universe apart from where most people are.
“I’m not the continuum. There’s no me. It’s just what’s happening. It’s not personal.
“Things are happening, and they’re going to happen whether I attach myself as an ego to it or not. There’s grooves that are cut pretty deep from my entire life. There’s still an energy that wants to be admired and wants to be clever, and there’s still an energy that wants to free people from concern, and now it goes further.
“I want to relate what this is to people so they can also glimpse the abyss! It sounds scary, but it’s not. Everything still happens.”
Caliban
12th September 2017, 23:32
Jim Carrey is enlightened--if you cross check what is said by Tim a member, about enlightenment you will see where Jim is coming from.
Carrey spent a lot of time with Eckhart Tolle who many on the forum will have heard of.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904
Chris
Enlightened? Jim Carrey? Let's slow down a little, eh. Sounds like he caught some glimpses of this stuff we all talk about. Yes, it's good he's putting non-dual ideas out into the mass media, sure. I'm not saying he hasn't had some realization but let's take it easy with this. Many of us have had such insights. Doesn't mean we're "enlightened". Remember Lao Tzu - 'Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.'
Innocent Warrior
13th September 2017, 00:30
Completely agree with the previous post.
BTW we DO matter. We may be a drop in the ocean but when you're that drop it means a whole lot. Saying this doesn't matter is lazy. Humanity is being exploited and souls are being trapped into lives full of suffering and that is cosmically abhorrent.
Bill Ryan
13th September 2017, 00:52
For reference, some existing Jim Carrey threads:
Jim Carrey Framed for Killing Girlfriend After Exposing Illuminati Secrets? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98583-Jim-Carrey-Framed-for-Killing-Girlfriend-After-Exposing-Illuminati-Secrets) (July 2017)
Jim Carrey's Secret Hand Signal (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77293-Jim-Carrey-s-Secret-Hand-Signal) (Nov 2014)
Jim Carrey's Secret of Life (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74291) (Aug 2014)
Jim Carrey's Commencement Address at the 2014 MUM Graduation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72094-Jim-Carrey-s-Commencement-Address-at-the-2014-MUM-Graduation) (June 2014)
Jim Carrey Rolls Out a Children's Book - And it's Spiritual (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63280-Jim-Carrey-Rolls-Out-a-Children-s-Book-And-it-s-Spiritual) (Sept 2013)
Chester
13th September 2017, 01:07
Jim Carrey is enlightened--if you cross check what is said by Tim a member, about enlightenment you will see where Jim is coming from.
Carrey spent a lot of time with Eckhart Tolle who many on the forum will have heard of.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904
Chris
And
What he is saying here is virtually the same as mystics say---"I am not the doer---of myself I do nothing"
https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/jim-carr...103130238.html
Jim Carrey spent time with Eckhart Tolle.
Part of what he said on the link
I’m not a part of it anymore. Dressing happens, doing hair happens, interviewing happens, but it happens without me, without the idea of a ‘me.’ You know what I’m saying? It’s a weird little semantic jump, and it’s not that far, but it’s a universe apart from where most people are.
“I’m not the continuum. There’s no me. It’s just what’s happening. It’s not personal.
“Things are happening, and they’re going to happen whether I attach myself as an ego to it or not. There’s grooves that are cut pretty deep from my entire life. There’s still an energy that wants to be admired and wants to be clever, and there’s still an energy that wants to free people from concern, and now it goes further.
“I want to relate what this is to people so they can also glimpse the abyss! It sounds scary, but it’s not. Everything still happens.”
And Post #2 of this thread
Jim Carrey is a mystic.
So if someone here really wanted to understand what Jim Carrey was pointing to, in these videos, and is pointing to in what he is saying today… study mysticism...
which, can lead to enlightenment (as is meant in the context the word has been used in Greybeard’s threads and tim’s threads).
Good to see you post, Chris… I miss you a lot… just not the same around here without you, Sam.
Innocent Warrior
13th September 2017, 01:25
Jim Carrey has also stated what I argued against, which is ignoring half the paradox of duality, but don't mind me, I'm just spiritually ignorant...
Chester
13th September 2017, 02:03
Jim Carrey has also stated what I argued against, which is ignoring half the paradox of duality, but don't mind me, I'm just spiritually ignorant...
Actually... and you should know this from dozens of my posts - I am of the school of "Tim Freke" that honors both, a.) the timeless formless eternal one life and, b.) one's current single lifetime / one's story of that life.
I also have extended Tim Freke's idea further where I celebrate the possibility of an individuated aspect of that me, that continues beyond the end of Sam's story and thus perhaps may, if exists, have existed prior to Sam's story of this one life.
Tim calls his "thing" - paralogical perception and thus I dubbed mine, Trilogical perception.
Here's Tim Freke (not to be confused with PA's tim) explaining this philosophy.
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IMO one does not have to look at it dualistically (as in one or the other) and as Freke suggests, one can see "both/and" as opposed to "either/or" so along those same lines I view my trilogical approach.
explored here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91743-One-s-Metaphysical-World-View)
and expanded upon here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96555-Gnosticism-Miguel-Conner-Sam-s-Level-Two--A-and-B-&p=1139566&highlight=monistic#post1139566)
Note the second thread references Miguel Connor (a modern day Gnostic) who just so happened to interview Tim Freke a while back where in this interview is an exploration of the same thing my "Level Two" points to... so one could reasonably conclude Tim Freke sees the "trilogical" concept as well.
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Chester
13th September 2017, 02:30
Jim Carrey is enlightened--if you cross check what is said by Tim a member, about enlightenment you will see where Jim is coming from.
Carrey spent a lot of time with Eckhart Tolle who many on the forum will have heard of.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904
Chris
Enlightened? Jim Carrey? Let's slow down a little, eh. Sounds like he caught some glimpses of this stuff we all talk about. Yes, it's good he's putting non-dual ideas out into the mass media, sure. I'm not saying he hasn't had some realization but let's take it easy with this. Many of us have had such insights. Doesn't mean we're "enlightened". Remember Lao Tzu - 'Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.'
Fortunately I do not claim to be enlightened... I am stark raving enlightened... sorta like Jim Carrey.
greybeard
13th September 2017, 07:15
after enlightenment everything carries on the same as before, the difference being there is no claim to be the doer.
Hence the well known Chopping wood, fetching water ---statement---which is more or less what Jim Carrey has said---nothing to be feared.
"Event happen
deeds are done
there is no doer there of."
Jim Carrey did not claim enlightenment, I said he was --the signs are there. by their fruits you will know them.
I accept I may have been a little quick too state he is enlightened. May be so.
No enlightened person ever said that the non enlightened do not matter--just that they are unaware of their true nature.
From their perspective everyone is enlightened just not aware.
Ch
Rich
13th September 2017, 15:14
Enlightenment IMO is a bit of a fairy tale, the only measurement we have IMO is happiness, if s/he is truly happy (not just pretending) then they can claim to be enlightened.
shadowstalker
13th September 2017, 15:27
Perhaps Jim was always enlightened , but found this opportunity to finally speak out, maybe this explains his form of outrageous comedy.
Wind
13th September 2017, 15:33
Enlightenment IMO is a bit of a fairy tale, the only measurement we have IMO is happiness, if s/he is truly happy (not just pretending) then they can claim to be enlightened.
Beyond happiness and unhappiness there is peace - Eckhart Tolle (http://detoxifynow.com/et_beyond_happiness.html)
"Is there a difference between happiness and inner peace?
Yes. Happiness depends on conditions being perceived as positive; inner peace does not.
Remember that we are not talking about happiness here. For example, when a loved one has just died, or you feel your own death approaching, you cannot be happy. It is impossible. But you can be at peace. There may be sadness and tears, but provided that you have relinquished resistance, underneath the sadness you will feel a deep serenity, a stillness, a sacred presence. This is the emanation of Being, this is inner peace, the good that has no opposite."
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Chester
13th September 2017, 19:18
Enlightenment IMO is a bit of a fairy tale, the only measurement we have IMO is happiness, if s/he is truly happy (not just pretending) then they can claim to be enlightened.
Beyond happiness and unhappiness there is peace - Eckhart Tolle (http://detoxifynow.com/et_beyond_happiness.html)
"Is there a difference between happiness and inner peace?
Yes. Happiness depends on conditions being perceived as positive; inner peace does not.
Remember that we are not talking about happiness here. For example, when a loved one has just died, or you feel your own death approaching, you cannot be happy. It is impossible. But you can be at peace. There may be sadness and tears, but provided that you have relinquished resistance, underneath the sadness you will feel a deep serenity, a stillness, a sacred presence. This is the emanation of Being, this is inner peace, the good that has no opposite."
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This is brilliant, Wind. Eckhart Tolle has been one of my "facilitators" and it is from Eckhart Tolle that I obtained the word grouping that points to "that one consciousness" - "the timeless, formless eternal one life."
This is the heart of mystical understandaing and reflects the metaphysical cosmological world view - "monistic idealism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism)"
Monistic idealism holds that consciousness, not matter, is the ground of all being. It is monist because it holds that there is only one type of thing in the universe and idealist because it holds that one thing to be consciousness.
As greybeard points out and as Tolle points out in the video... Life (as in "the timeless, formless eternal one life") is the dancer and each of us are individuated expressions of that dance.
All of this is not meant to be shared in any way that is meant to "impose" this view. It is meant all and only to help others understand the view. Each expression of the dance is free to decide for themselves what may be true.
Rich
13th September 2017, 20:31
Jim Carrey has also stated what I argued against, which is ignoring half the paradox of duality, but don't mind me, I'm just spiritually ignorant...
There seems to be 2 main spiritual teachings about this "reality";
1. That this world exists as an experience an expression of God, and there is a purpose behind it, this is what Bashar and most non-dual teachers say.
2. That this world does not exist and is a hallucination, according to ACIM and perhaps a few other teachers, for example Papaji said nothing has ever happened nothing ever will happen, or Ramana who has said ultimately there is no creation.
Whatever the truth may be I think important is the trust that the positive is true and negative is untrue. What reason to have a negative belief unless there is a underlying more negative belief that we think needs to be avoided?
DNA
14th September 2017, 01:55
Yes, I wasn't very impressed. He actually just sounds confused.
I agree 100%.
He is coming off like a 19 year old kid who is on a six month pot smoking binge questioning the existential meaning of it all.
findingneo
14th September 2017, 03:28
While getting in a lather regarding definitions and terminology and labels, what he is saying and how he says it gets pushed out of the center of the discussion. Does it matter? We are all flawed. I am just listening to what he is saying.
When he says that we don't matter, that is not what he thinks. He is trying to say "None of us matter, to them." Them. The folk or whatever, doing the controlling. He is saying, those in control think that we do not matter. He is telling us because he thinks we do matter, otherwise, why would he bother putting himself out on a limb. (That is not actually a question BTW).
Anyway, thank you Bill. I will will take a look at your links the first chance I have.
Wind
14th September 2017, 23:48
Can YOU imagine going through the suicide of a loved one? That's something incredibly painful, but spiritually transforming too. Like death and loss is.
Jim expands on his thoughts :
https://www.wmagazine.com/story/jim-carrey-explains-existential-fashion-week-interview
"Whether he knew it or not at the time, a pivotal moment in Carrey’s “journey,” as he called it, was taking on the role of Kaufman in the 1999 film Man on the Moon. “It was about immersing myself in a character or a couple of characters so deeply that I realized that myself, Jim Carrey, was a character as well and something I could push aside at will,” he explained. “So once you know that, you go, ‘Who am I?’”
Carrey’s answer:
“We’re a bunch of ideas cobbled together to look like a form. There’s a body and there’s a mind, but the body is part of the field of consciousness, just dancing for itself and it’s no different than a plant or a chair or your phone—it’s all one thing. Because we are sentient, there’s a consciousness, and we have to deal with this thing we create, like a fortress of ideas around it. So we say, ‘This is my name and this is my heritage and this is my nationality and here’s my hockey team and these are all of the things that I am.’ That’s the mistake.”
So how do we avoid that mistake?
According to Carrey, there’s only one way:
“The only way to it is to step into the river of tears and the sorrows of your life. The things that everyone is avoiding with everything from drugs to drink to sex and gadgets and whatever else you can distract yourself with, all of it is designed for you to never stop going and moving and, for god sakes, not feel the abyss. Don’t allow yourself to feel the abandonment and pain that you’ve suffered. And I’ve done it; I’m through it. I’m sure there will be things that happen again, but I realized that by letting myself fall into it completely, that it’s not to be feared. Death is not to be feared.”
While some are writing off Carrey’s newfound Zen, it’s worth noting that the actor, who’s been open about his struggles with depression, seems to be doing genuinely great. For one, he looked great—gone is the scraggly beard, and he appeared sharp in a Tom Ford leather jacket. “I have no depression in my life whatsoever,” he declared. “I don’t have meds, I don’t have supplements, I don’t have anything. I’ve got a couple of fish oils a day and the rest of it is just good diet and a little bit of exercise and understanding that I don’t exist.”
I commented that the Tom Ford jacket seemed like an odd choice for someone who just described a fashion week event as the “most meaningless thing that [he] could come to.” In response, he likened his appearance to dressing up as a character in a video game: “You don’t have to believe this character exists—it’s a f---ing avatar on the gaming grid! Today I had extra points so I got a cool jacket to dress my avatar in,” he added. “I have cool weapons, too! Cool weapons on the game grid.”
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Joey
15th September 2017, 09:36
after enlightenment everything carries on the same as before, the difference being there is no claim to be the doer.
Hence the well known Chopping wood, fetching water ---statement---which is more or less what Jim Carrey has said---nothing to be feared.
"Event happen
deeds are done
there is no doer there of."
Jim Carrey did not claim enlightenment, I said he was --the signs are there. by their fruits you will know them.
I accept I may have been a little quick too state he is enlightened. May be so.
No enlightened person ever said that the non enlightened do not matter--just that they are unaware of their true nature.
From their perspective everyone is enlightened just not aware.
Ch
The head of enlightenment is so much different than the heart of it.
Talking about the concepts of enlightenment does not mean anything at all. Having the concepts right is the prime indication that the essence is missed in it's entirety.
In my view there does not exist a thing as enlightenment. Because if you in the state of total immersion, you are not wondering and thinking about it all anymore. It just is as you are wholly infused with life, the rest is just nonsense. It's all subjective and a matter of experience.
I don't feel it Jim, to me it feels like a mental trip with a lot of confusion.
greybeard
15th September 2017, 10:06
Assumptions are made--by me.
Who can say for sure.
I always come back to Tim's opening post.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904
There is no subject nor object--this is beyond mind---intellect
C
Rich
15th September 2017, 13:34
The head of enlightenment is so much different than the heart of it.
Talking about the concepts of enlightenment does not mean anything at all. Having the concepts right is the prime indication that the essence is missed in it's entirety.
Also, words are something we made up, language is an invention.
Foxie Loxie
15th September 2017, 13:51
Living "in the moment" seems to be what this is about. Having lived most of my entire life within a certain narrowminded belief system....I was never living "in the moment", it was simply doing what had to be done. I guess one could say "like a robot"....or, I might call them my Zombie Years! :der: Perhaps I'm way off topic here? I guess it depends on what one's definition of "enlightenment" is! :bigsmile:
Hym
15th September 2017, 15:08
Unbound is the infinite nature of Being, yet the entrainment of words binds attention to the illusion that they can free anyone or that they have anything close to the true value of being.
Within the Knowing is it's opposite, the No-ing, telling us that the truth within speech is something always present that Lives Beyond Words...
Words seeded by masters of illusion, the ones called creators.
Funny that those creators were unaware that the words they twisted would be unbound
By Us,
to free us,
By our own arrangements, suiting our truths and our rights to No all of the truth.
The real No-ing lives transcending the trance of words, with it's own meanings and intent...
Within the No-ing is the suggestion to the totality of our soul's awareness that there is the Yes that is beyond a guess,
Connected to the temporal body's guest that is guided within the quest for meaning and purpose,
Constantly prompting the loving light that is within all things....Yes Is
It is the Naa-ing upon the ever, the eternal....
Alive in it's own presents, constantly unwrapping.....
to end up in the endlessness, without end or beginning, constantly a-knew, alive in the No-ing.
We apply the pressure of the Locks within the body centers
to travel
beyond the loke,
held deep below
in the underwater cavern holding the soul.
It is always the forever time to go up to the surface and breathe in that deep and giving breath that connects us deeper and deeper to the timeless, beyond the mythical monster of the ness, the need planted within the seed...
to be beyond the binding knot that drives one not to be,
the time needed to release the awareness from the bonds that hold it,
without any true agreement, or fully aware beyond the bully of fear, held too dear by the smell of it's own enticing fragrance....
It is only the lack of self acceptance that you have been trained to accept, as the life that has been yours to hold on to and hold onto it you must in order to realize the gift of eternity.
Awareness lives most alive in the letting go that has held on to the precious addiction of time.....
You are as alive as you want to be,
unbound by words and thoughts.....
sunwings
15th September 2017, 21:50
Jim Carrey Addresses His Existential Interview At NYFW
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https://stillbleedingheart.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/neitzsche.jpg
Worth listening to in full and checking out the comments section. The amount of interest it has stirred gives pause for thought.
Justplain
16th September 2017, 00:25
I believe that Mr. Tolle specifically describes the time of his personal 'enlightenment' was when he stopped identifying with his little 'me' self. In the following days/weeks he experienced a flushing of psychological baggage, both emotional and mental. Another person who described a similar happening was the recently departed Wayne Wirs. There seems to be a significant change in the person's outlook, they are no longer trapped into identifying with their body, or personality, or possessions, or status, etc.
Personally, watching Mr. Carey's speech to the MUM graduating class, i am convinced he has had a similar experience to that of Tolle's and Wirs'. He no longer identifies himself with his personality or possessions or status. He may enjoy experiencing some those things, but he recognizes he isnt those things. Some of the clips above in this thread could be confusing to this point, but if you watch the MUM speach, in addition to the golden globe speech, one can see he definitely understands this.
What total enlightenment is is a good question. Some who have attained a very expanded consciousness have been known to have clairvoyance, etc. I think expanded consciousness is an honorable goal, its just not something that fits the description boxes of our intellects. And this is a journey we continue on with life after life.
Virilis
16th September 2017, 08:51
https://youtu.be/-JmNKGfFj7w
The MSM dubbed this red carpet interview "bizarre"
Most of us here on PA will totally get what he's preaching. He seems to have awakened and really grasp the idea of reality. I love his attitude about celebrity "icons" - we need more people to think like that.
I found his last statement the most intriguing: "Its not our world. Thats the key. We don't matter... we don't matter."
Take that as you will, but I think this guy may know some things. I'd love to have tea and chat with the guy :bounce:
The paradox of consciousness trying to quantify and ascribe value to an ineffable Reality of which it is itself a part....
Thanks for posting that enjoyable Carrey interview starlight. I hope you also invite Timothy "Speed" Levitch to that afternoon tea and chat session. The iguana will bite those who do not Dream!
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"On this bridge," Lorca warns, "life is not a dream. Beware. And beware. And beware." And so many think because Then happened, Now isn't. But didn't I mention the ongoing "wow" is happening right now? We are all co-authors of this dancing exuberance where even our inabilities are having a roast. We are the authors of ourselves, co-authoring a gigantic Dostoevsky novel, starring clowns. This entire thing we're involved with called the world, is an opportunity to exhibit how exciting alienation can be. Life is a matter of a miracle that is collected over time by moments, flabbergasted to be in each other's presence. The world is an exam to see if we can rise into direct experience. Our eyesight is here as a test to see if we can see beyond it. Matter is here as a test for our curiosity. Doubt is here as an exam for our vitality. Thomas Mann wrote that he would rather participate in life than write 100 stories. Giacometti was once run down by a car, and he recalled falling into a lucid faint, a sudden exhilaration, as he realized that at last something was happening to him. An assumption develops that you cannot understand life and live life simultaneously. I do not agree entirely. Which is to say I do not exactly disagree. I would say that life understood is life lived. But the paradoxes bug me, and I can learn to love and make love to the paradoxes that bug me. And on really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. Before you drift off, don't forget. Which is to say, remember. Because remembering is so much more a psychotic activity than forgetting. Lorca, in that same poem said that the iguana will bite those who do not dream. And as one realizes that one is a dream figure in another person's dream, that is self awareness."
And then, sometimes, a tiny iridescent ray of sunshine breaks through and momentarily lifts the fog....WE CAN DANCE IF WE WANT TO!
:dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing:
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greybeard
16th September 2017, 16:09
"A huge number of people are going through the process of awakening,
some in the early stages, some in later stages.
and its wonderful to see."
Thats a Eckhart Tolle quote and Jim Carrey followed the teaching of Eckhart.
Who knows what is going on--one can but hope.
Chris
sunwings
16th September 2017, 21:29
More Jim Carrey quotes
We’re a bunch of ideas cobbled together to look like a form. There’s a body and there’s a mind, but the body is part of the field of consciousness, just dancing for itself and it’s no different than a plant or a chair or your phone—it’s all one thing. Because we are sentient, there’s a consciousness, and we have to deal with this thing we create, like a fortress of ideas around it. So we say, ‘This is my name and this is my heritage and this is my nationality and here’s my hockey team and these are all of the things that I am.’ That’s the mistake.
When asked how we avoid this mistake, he had this to say:
The only way to it is to step into the river of tears and the sorrows of your life. The things that everyone is avoiding with everything from drugs to drink to sex and gadgets and whatever else you can distract yourself with, all of it is designed for you to never stop going and moving and, for god sakes, not feel the abyss. Don’t allow yourself to feel the abandonment and pain that you’ve suffered. And I’ve done it; I’m through it. I’m sure there will be things that happen again, but I realized that by letting myself fall into it completely, that it’s not to be feared. Death is not to be feared.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/09/14/jim-carreys-response-to-reactions-over-his-bizarre-interview-really-has-people-thinking/
Chester
17th September 2017, 05:31
Jim Carrey Addresses His Existential Interview At NYFW
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At 1:20
“…it’s about not taking it personally…”
Chester
17th September 2017, 05:45
"A huge number of people are going through the process of awakening,
some in the early stages, some in later stages.
and its wonderful to see."
Thats a Eckhart Tolle quote and Jim Carrey followed the teaching of Eckhart.
Who knows what is going on--one can but hope.
Chris
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You follow your feelings,
you follow your dreams
You follow the leader
into the trees
And what's in there waiting,
neither one of us knows
You gotta keep one eye open
the further you go
You never dreamed
you'd go down on one knee,
but now
Who could have seen,
you'd be so hard to please
somehow
You feel like a poor boy,
a long way from home
You're just a poor boy,
a long way from home
(Chorus)
And it's wake up time
Time to open your eyes
And rise and shine
You spend your life dreaming,
running 'round in a trance
You hang out forever
and still miss the dance
And if you get lucky,
you might find someone
To help you get over
the pain that will come
Yeah, you were so cool
back in high school,
what happened
You were so sure
not to have your
spirits dampened
But you're just a poor boy
alone in this world
You're just a poor boy
alone in this world
(Chorus)
And it's wake up time
Time to open your eyes
And rise and shine
Well, if he gets lucky,
a boy finds a girl
To help him to shoulder
the pain in this world
And if you follow
your feelings
And you follow
your dreams
You might find the forest
there in the trees
Yeah, you'll be alright,
it's just gonna take time,
but now
Who could have seen
you'd be so hard to please
somehow
You're just a poor boy
a long way from home
You're just a poor boy
a long way from home
(Chorus)
'Cause it's wake up time
It's time to open your eyes
And rise and shine
Matthew
25th September 2017, 19:05
Howard Stern chats with Jim Carrey June 2017 (53 mins long)
Jim Carrey on Howard Stern (06/13/2017)
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noxon medem
25th September 2017, 19:34
- ha ha !
Viagra have made an effiicient pr. campaign as the "blue pill" ?
;- )
Matthew
25th September 2017, 20:14
Eckhart Tolle to a Viagra joke (I laughed). Both enlightenment and jokes probably apt for a Jim Carrey thread
KingJamesCorona
4th October 2017, 04:12
VHG7mHKwQqA Haven't seen it yet.
For your entertainment - Jim, Norm, and Adam Eget the Jewish holocaust denier.
Chester
4th October 2017, 20:58
Jimmie my boy! Says more about his non existence
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justntime2learn
7th October 2017, 13:09
Likely most don't need an explanation, but here is a great one that seems right on target.
JIM CARREY "CRAZY" BEHAVIOR EXPLAINED!!!
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loc333
7th October 2017, 15:05
what a way to start the day,,,thank you justintime....always looking for the truth.
sigma6
7th October 2017, 19:09
Besides Cable Guy which was the zenith of Jim's Career... and he steered it into the most brutally funny satire I've ever seen in a long, long time... and played Hollywood on his own terms... I loved him in "The Majestic"
A truly humble Canadian... from living in a van in Hollywood to commanding 20 million for Cable Guy... Way'd go Jim...
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Tbone500
8th October 2017, 01:29
I have seen Jim Carey... And he isnt going to be frrom DEVIL to Saint in 1 life time.
I BET he is still an Illuminati asset.
Wont you agree?
Chester
8th October 2017, 15:31
I have seen Jim Carey... And he isnt going to be frrom DEVIL to Saint in 1 life time.
I BET he is still an Illuminati asset.
Wont you agree?
Nope.........................
Mike
9th October 2017, 15:06
Jim Carrey *is* the red pill:)
Bill Ryan
9th October 2017, 15:12
Likely most don't need an explanation, but here is a great one that seems right on target.
JIM CARREY "CRAZY" BEHAVIOR EXPLAINED!!!
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:bump:
Excellently done, and genuinely profound. At first I thought it was probably nothing special, but in the end I felt like taking notes. :)
ThePythonicCow
9th October 2017, 23:57
Excellently done, and genuinely profound. At first I thought it was probably nothing special, but in the end I felt like taking notes. :)
In my (rather esoteric, aka unusual) view, this video presents a false dilemma by asking us to choose which aspect of our being we really are. "Are" we our mind, body or spirit?
In my view, we are not any one of these levels, but rather we exist at several levels, from the aetheric (the level below the subatomic) to the ethereal (whatever is our highest level of awareness.)
Each level is a self-organizing, self-replicating ordering - aether, particles, atoms, molecules (including simple chemically reactive molecules, 3D complex folded structural proteins, and even more complex genetic material with the blueprints for those protein structures), tissues, organs, the body, the heart and brain, mental, and some higher levels that I am less articulate about.
That one level (say the mind) can speak of another level (say the body) as if it (the mind) owned it (the body) does not mean that the mind is "the real us", nor does it mean that the unnamed observer who notices the mind thus speaking is "the real us".
It's layers, all the way down, and all the way up. We exist, are instantiated, at many levels at once.
Satori
10th October 2017, 00:28
Excellently done, and genuinely profound. At first I thought it was probably nothing special, but in the end I felt like taking notes. :)
In my (rather esoteric, aka unusual) view, this video presents a false dilemma by asking us to choose which aspect of our being we really are. "Are" we our mind, body or spirit?
In my view, we are not any one of these levels, but rather we exist at several levels, from the aetheric (the level below the subatomic) to the ethereal (whatever is our highest level of awareness.)
Each level is a self-organizing, self-replicating ordering - aether, particles, atoms, molecules (including simple chemically reactive molecules, 3D complex folded structural proteins, and even more complex genetic material with the blueprints for those protein structures), tissues, organs, the body, the heart and brain, mental, and some higher levels that I am less articulate about.
That one level (say the mind) can speak of another level (say the body) as if it (the mind) owned it (the body) does not mean that the mind is "the real us", nor does it mean that the unnamed observer who notices the mind thus speaking is "the real us".
It's layers, all the way down, and all the way up. We exist, are instantiated, at many levels at once.
Paul, In your view, what becomes of the mind and spirit after the body ceases to operate? That is, upon death--so called.
ADD: If, in your view, upon death the spirit in some way survives, never died, or dies but returns to the great pool of energy (if it ever left), would that imply anything about the spirit? About the body? Mind?
I do not mean to put you on the spot, and you are of course under no duty to reply to me, but I wonder where you stand.
ThePythonicCow
10th October 2017, 03:18
Paul, In your view, what becomes of the mind and spirit after the body ceases to operate? That is, upon death--so called.
By "mind" I refer to the thoughts, intuitions, and emotions primarily realized in the nervous system, especially in the heart and brain. That "mind" I figure most likely perishes with its body ... and that perishing may well be the "best" way to define the moment of death.
By "spirit" I refer to higher levels of ordering, which may transcend in space or time, the life span and location of ones body. It's quite an open question, to me, whether or not that spirit (any of those higher levels) retains a unique one-to-one enumeration with physical bodies, once disembodied. If not, then it would not make sense to say that one (the spirit currently occupying one's current body) had a particular past life, occupying some other body in the past ... at least not in a literal sense.
My current hunch is that spirits are like buckets of water, occupying some particular bucket at present. But once spilled onto the ground, sent down to the sea, evaporated into the clouds, rained down on the earth, and collected into another bucket ... the association of a particular bunch of water with a particular bucket is lost.
I do however find plausible the many reports of near death experiences which tell of a transient separation of body from awareness of one's physical surroundings. These would seem to contradict my above current hunch. My guess is that there is some truth to both my current hunch and these reports, in some way that escapes my current (mis)understanding.
In other words, these reports of near death experiences are, I suspect, telling us something ... I just don't know what they are telling us.
... of course, after I die, I might come to a different understanding :).
Mark (Star Mariner)
10th October 2017, 12:42
Likely most don't need an explanation, but here is a great one that seems right on target.
JIM CARREY "CRAZY" BEHAVIOR EXPLAINED!!!
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Thanks for this. I think this guy is operating at a very high level of awareness. This was reinforced when I checked another video on his channel.
I cannot recommend it enough to be honest. It is only 7 minutes long. What you will hear is amazing. Such incredible truth, delivered with such poise and clarity. I have heard many talks and presentations from self-styled gurus over the years, who ramble on for hours, and I have to say they often do not convey half of what this guy manages to do in 7 short minutes.
I can almost certainly promise, it will be the most valuable 7 minutes you spend today.
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justntime2learn
10th October 2017, 15:11
Likely most don't need an explanation, but here is a great one that seems right on target.
JIM CARREY "CRAZY" BEHAVIOR EXPLAINED!!!
ESB00WsWOAU
Thanks for this. I think this guy is operating at a very high level of awareness. This was reinforced when I checked another video on his channel.
I cannot recommend it enough to be honest. It is only 7 minutes long. What you will hear is amazing. Such incredible truth, delivered with such poise and clarity. I have heard many talks and presentations from self-styled gurus over the years, who ramble on for hours, and I have to say they often do not convey half of what this guy manages to do in 7 short minutes.
I can almost certainly promise, it will be the most valuable 7 minutes you spend today.
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Thank you All :sun:
I :heart: I :heart: Terrorists Star Mariner!
7 minutes well spent and shared.
I found the vid I shared in a stream of video's with this just prior. I couldn't find the english version, however Jim's words are in english
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justntime2learn
31st October 2017, 14:19
The video kept me interested until the end...
Any thoughts ?
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Noelle
31st October 2017, 16:10
The video kept me interested until the end...
Any thoughts ?
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Although he uses different terminology, I see a correlation with Tom Campbell's theory (http://wiki.my-big-toe.com/Individuated_Unit_Of_Consciousness).
You are an Individuated Unit of Consciousness (IUOC) residing on the RWW, a subset of AUM in Consciousness Space.
Our IUOC is our true self, a digital individuated consciousness, as it resides on the RWW, also called Indra's Net historically. Historically with reference to Indra's Net, an IUOC was referred to as a jewel of consciousness with each jewel reflecting all of the others within its facets.
The consciousness system has free will -- free will is necessary for consciousness. Little and big you, as an individual character, such as Ramon, and as an individual IUOC (defined by the historical data of your experience within virtual realities) are always a potentiality within the Larger Consciousness System (LCS). This is more accurate than saying that you are an independent piece of the LCS – you are not independent, you are one with the LCS – you have the potential to be independent, to have an independent freewill, within a virtual reality within the LCS. Your independent free will requires a virtual reality. Otherwise you are simply data, a potentiality within the LCS. The LCS has free will and you are one with it, not independent or separate from it.
greybeard
14th January 2018, 12:32
The title is misleading
Up to people to make up there own minds--discuss what he is saying etc..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI_fCBRicyY
Carmody
15th January 2018, 19:54
Yes, I wasn't very impressed. He actually just sounds confused.
Confused is good.
It's when you are certain - that you are already dead.
Flash
15th January 2018, 20:08
To me he doesn't seem confused at all. He had a spiritual epiphany and he is living by it. He has infused his epiphany within himself. Reminds me of the epiphany of David Icke some 20 years ago where he would go on TV and be laughed at.
From an inner relfective point of view, it may seems confused. From a higher self sight, it is not at all, I think/feel.
Carmody you are right, he is quite alive and seems to enjoy it greatly. ??!!
Yes, I wasn't very impressed. He actually just sounds confused.
Confused is good.
It's when you are certain - that you are already dead.
greybeard
15th January 2018, 21:49
Jim Carrey followed the teaching of Eckhart Tolle (mystic and author of The Power of Now and A new Earth)
Proximity to that enlightened energy is contagious.
After Self Realization there can be a period of maturing where it is difficult to express the new perception of what is.
Tim does a great job here on Avalon by way of explanation what enlightenment is.
The True Self is realized.
Anyway for those interested in Non-Duality (this would seem to be what Jim Carrey is experiencing) here is the link.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904
HaveBlue
1st April 2018, 10:55
I am sure Jim Carrey has been taking many pills of many different colours. There may even be a red one in there somewhere but it has gotten lost in the mix!
It would be good if he could do a self portrait so we can compare his less than flattering version of Sarah Huckabee- Sanders. This would let us know how he sees himself especially when up against such coherent intellectual giants such as her. He should have learned from the last dem who attacked her and went down in flames. She does have a large head which houses a large brain and I bet she uses it to a much greater capacity than he currently uses his very large and contorted mouth. He is no slouch in the IQ dept either to be fair, but he could have picked on a better target such as HRC, Nancy, Diane F or any number of senile crazy women and gotten a better response/laughs.
But being a loyal Hollyweird disciple, dems are out of bounds and only repubs are fair game in his mind controlled world. This is extremely obvious.
His behavior may be due to suffering the loss of his fiance' to alleged suicide however 'erratic' may as well be his middle name anyway. At any rate, I feel for the guy and would not want to swap places with him. This seems to be yet another case of 'has millions of fans and millions of dollars' but is a complete mess. Hollyweird at its most blatant.
It is very hard to remain grounded when going through periods of enlightenment and those around you do get concerned for your well being. Best to just go off by yourself for a while. No wonder that is why all the pics and stories of the proverbial yogis and meditators are solo ones.
We all know how David Icke was mocked when he had his 'experience'. Let's hope Jim can stick it out the way David has and be getting taken just as seriously as David now is 25 odd years later.
I guess Jim is one of the few who could 'pull it off' on MSM TV since he is already in a whacky comedic class and people can dismiss his talk as a joke they didn't get or something to keep themselves 'safe' and not be forced out of their comfort zone to take him too seriously. But I'd leave Sarah out of it if I was him.
Valerie Villars
1st April 2018, 20:51
They incarnated behind enemy lines, so to speak.
We all incarnated behind enemy lines. Respect to each and every one of us.
ExomatrixTV
11th July 2021, 00:03
Jim Carrey - How To Manifest What You Want:
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The Real You - Jim Carrey:
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MEANING OF LIFE - Jim Carrey Motivational Video:
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thepainterdoug
11th July 2021, 03:34
I believe hes on to it, but its problematic. To say it doesnt matter, yet present yourself like it matters, still doesnt necessarily mean he believes it matters, but does send a conflicting message to those who still believe it all matters. He could of stayed home, but then he wouldnt of delivered the message of how it all doesnt matter, to those who think it does.
And that message matteres to me.
wow, did I say that?
Gracy
11th July 2021, 12:05
There's another side to Jim Carrey that may give many pause on the red pill thing, his art work:
https://www.thewrap.com/jim-carrey-trump-political-art-trump-photos/
Brigantia
11th July 2021, 12:16
There's another side to Jim Carrey that may give many pause on the red pill thing, his art work:
https://www.thewrap.com/jim-carrey-trump-political-art-trump-photos/
Wow, thanks for that link Gracy May. No matter what anyone's views may be on Trump, those are nasty. I'm always suspicious about any big names who profess to go against the mainstream, they probably all do a deal with the devil in the first place for fame and riches. Controlled opposition IMO.
muxfolder
11th July 2021, 15:21
I'm not buying. The elite-scum from Hollywood are all the same. This guy has never even seen red bills, except those in his medicine cabinet. Remember, it's a big club and we're not in it. He's just acting.
ExomatrixTV
17th July 2022, 15:35
Jim Carrey's Speech NO ONE Wants To Hear — One Of The Most Eye-Opening Speeches:
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Jim Carrey is a Canadian-American comedian who established himself as a leading comedic actor with a series of over-the-top performances and who won plaudits for his more-serious portrayals as his career progressed. This is one of his most emotional and inspiring speeches! Watch the video until the end for mind-blowing life advice by Jim Carrey!
thepainterdoug
17th July 2022, 17:16
John K/ great video, should be seen by all
ExomatrixTV
25th September 2024, 20:13
Jim Carrey Doesn't Exist:
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Jim Carrey claims he doesn't exist. In 1994, he catapulted to superstardom with unforgettable roles in 'Ace Ventura,' 'The Mask,' and 'Dumb and Dumber,' yet as the world laughed, he began to lose himself. Spanning the pivotal years from '94 to '98, this video chronicles Carrey's profound existential odyssey – a voyage that transcends Hollywood's commercial confines and guides him toward a deeper understanding of his place in the universe.
0:00 - Jim Carrey Doesn't Exist
0:29 - I Had a Sick Mom, Man
1:12 - Why Are We Here?
1:51 - Man in The Mirror
2:35 - I Had Nothing At The Time
3:14 - A $10M Dream
3:41 - A New Life
4:45 - I Imitated My Father
5:24 - A Childhood To Forget
7:01 - Sssmokin'!
8:03 - Your Father Died
8:43 - It Was Our Dream, Together
9:13 - I Got What I Wanted
9:34 - Skyrocketing Salaries
10:51 - The $20M Man
11:22 - A Poor Reception
11:54 - I'm More Than A Product
12:49 - The (Jim Carrey) Show
14:53 - The Dodford Show
16:01 - Carrey Should Stick to Comedy
16:54 - Who is the Real Jim Carrey?
17:59 - Just a Character
18:24 - Life is But a Dream
19:34 - It's All Just Weather
20:22 - Everybody Wears a Mask
20:50 - It's All Falling Apart
21:12 - Change is Necessary
21:30 - Open The Door
22:43 - The Dodcord
23:15 - Technical Difficulties
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