The drums of war

[mojo]

Paul's recent post on North Korea brings up a very good point about the drums of war sounding but didn't wish to detract from that focus so hoping to highlight a little point that isnt getting much notice. Trump is an easy target on beating drums but feel that its part of his method to negotiate, there is also the shadow government operating and beating the war drums very loud. Tucker Carlson on Fox hosted Rob Reiner about his Russian War ad and believe it provides keen insight to whom is wishing for real war. Perhaps its part of the plan to get the human population down to the numbers on the Georgia Guidestones? We need to keep the focus on the real enemy a shadow government operating against humanity.
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[Jayke]

Rob Reiner, using cyber warfare to accuse Russia of using cyber warefare...their blind hypocrisy would be hilarious if they weren't trying to put lipstick on genocide and seduce us into war.

The Neocons do love their Alinsky communist tactics of social subversion (accusing others of the crimes you yourself commit, thereby distracting attention away from the crimes they're committing)

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Educate/alinsky_method.htm

At least more and more people are wising up to the social subversions and calling them out on their tactics...tucker carlson is the only talking head on mainstream news that I'll watch occasionally

[WhiteLove]

The political values of nations all over the world are a BIG MESS and so hence the fruits of that are also a BIG MESS. But WHY are the political values of nations all over the world a BIG MESS... Because the truth is subject to manipulation and in the process humans get lost.

This has now been going on as far as I can remember, so for whatever reason - the likelihood for change done by new world leaders in the short term are sadly slim. It is a disease that somehow for some reason is very active over the very long term among humans on this planet. Is it an alien terraforming process as part of a colonization process? Who are they? Why are they here? What do they want to create on this earth?

As human beings, we have the right to be able to create a system for survival and happiness on our world, that totally excludes human suffering.

Whatever that's going on, our future depends on finding out the truth and take action on it.

[Cidersomerset]

I almost posted this segment on Pauls thread when Jayke posted the Morgan Freeman
teleprompter add , but got distracted. It highlighted how the wests propaganda machine
has gone into over drive post the Trump victory. Though it has always been there....

The US/UK are still leaders in surveillance and cyber war fare , China , Russia and
many other states , groups and individuals are also active in this field and cyber
crime has grown with the web as it has in all walks of life.

Its been open warfare since the start with China's fire wall , the UK putting forward
strong cyber legislation. (Theresa May: Internet data will be recorded under new spy laws
Home Secretary sets out new spying laws which will force internet firms to help spies to
hack into computers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11974112/New-spying-powers-to-be-unveiled-by-Theresa-May-live.html )

The US has be exposed by Wiki in Vault 7 , and with attacks on RT and others under the
foreign media bill things are hotting up or catching up depending on who's telling the story.
Hillary Clinton pointed this out years ago as Russia and others entered the media game/war
stepping on the toes of the western dominated airwaves till then.

This sums item up the situation perfectly ....."The US is in an information war "

Clinton asks for cash as US 'losing world info war'

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Published on 3 Mar 2011
The U.S. is losing an information war to alternative media outlets, including RT. That's the
message from Hillary Clinton to Congress members, who are questioning the State Department's
US $47 billion budget request for next year. And as RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports, the U.S.
Secretary of State says Washington needs to step up its propaganda efforts.
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Amusing clip on the same U'tube link summing up globalist puppet links...
Clinton/Rothschild relationship exposed in emails
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cp-sDATMyg

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Mark Steyn sums up the farce pretty well....." There are no Russians in the Russian
investigation ".

Mark Steyn, Clapper, Manafort, Trump Wiretapping, and Mueller!

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Published on 21 Sep 2017

[Cidersomerset]

There are many connected threads....

MENWITH HILL: NSA's Spy Center in the UK - 2012 Report ( This is not new) !!

I have touched on this in a previous post....This will also explain why any leaks
about this place will be treated as a violation of National Security ......and
why the US/UK are so interlinked at this level, it goes back to WW11 thru
the cold war to today. A massive defence bureaucracy that needs an enemy
or the fear of one.

read more....http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60355-MENWITH-HILL-NSA-s-Spy-Center-in-the-UK-2012-Report---This-is-not-new----&highlight=Menwith+Hill


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This is why the Western intelligence agencies dislike RT and others as they
cover issues that they would rather keep discreet. It was okay the other way
around and now the competition is exposing truths in English which is a
touchy subject to the US and UK governments...

Of course all countries are sensitive over security and with reason , but its just
hypocritical to say its just one player in this deadly game and Russia gate is
the latest example of this hypocrisy imo....

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Published on 8 Sep 2016..( not date of article)

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[Cidersomerset]

Perhaps its part of the plan to get the human population down to the numbers on the Georgia Guidestones?
We need to keep the focus on the real enemy a shadow government operating against humanity.

I think the agendas could be running parallel with some groups ?

It is said they must publish/hide all their plans in plain sight....

Georgia Guidestones UPDATED for 2014 - NEW STONE ADDED to Illuminati Monument!

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Published on 21 Sep 2014
Georgia Guidestones UPDATED for 2014 - Illuminati Monument Got NEW STONE ADDED!!
Is the Year The Illuminati's Population Reduction Prophecy Will Be Fulfilled?


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A Thread by Cursichella

New Info about the Georgia Guidestones

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84794-New-Info-about-the-Georgia-Guidestones&p=992706&viewfull=1#post992706

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A Thread by Atlas
Thread: Our Trip to Georgia Guidestones
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85678-Our-Trip-to-Georgia-Guidestones&highlight=Georgia+Guide+stones

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The Georgia Guidestones: Mysterious Time Capsule, Blood On the Capstone?
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Published on 13 Oct 2016


http://undergroundworldnews.com
The Georgia Guidestones is an enigmatic granite monument situated in Elbert
County, Georgia. Also known as the American Stonehenge, the gigantic structure is
almost 20 feet high and is made of six granite slabs, weighing in total 240,000
pounds. The most astonishing detail of the monument is however not its size but
the message engraved into it: Ten rules for an “Age of Reason”. These guides touch
depopulation, a single world government, the introduction of a new type of
spirituality, etc. The authors of those rules have requested to remain totally
anonymous and, until now, their anonymity has been duly preserved. However, this
mysterious group left a text explaining the reasoning behind the rules, a text that
was not discussed online before. With this new information, the purpose behind the
Guidestones become very clear, leaving little room for hypotheses. The Guidestones
describe the ideal world, as envisioned by occult Secret Societies. The monument is
therefore proof of an existing link between secret societies, the world elite and the
push for a New World Order.The monument is therefore proof of an existing link
between secret societies, the world elite and the push for a New World Order.

[Cidersomerset]

David and others have been pointing out the continuing agendas for decades....


The Stunning Hypocrisy of Puppet Proxy 'Leaders' - The David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast

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Published on 22 Sep 2017

[mojo]

Sadly we citizens may have not done enough to protect ourselves from enemies domestic (insiders) and where was the mainstream media reporting about it?...thats a joke, most reporters are just opinion-based anyway, and forget about vetting the story. JFK did warn us from the oval office but the call was not heeded as much as we needed it to be. They are entrenched now and like a tick burrowed in deep, its gonna take a lot to remove it.

Here is JFK's warning on the real enemy... lest some forget...
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[Michelle Marie]

The "real focus on the shadow government operating against humanity" and "putting lipstick on genocide" and "finding out the truth and taking action on it" rings true to my inner perceptions and conscience.

We sure have brilliant people on this forum. It makes me very happy and appreciative to be on this forum.

Great thoughts, Mojo, Jayke, and Whitelove!

This is a great thread.

In gratitude,
Michelle Marie

[Cidersomerset]

Here is JFK's warning on the real enemy... lest some forget...

Alas the US lost a piece of its soul that day in Dallas , JFK had his faults and
skeletons but was trying to stand up to the increasing power of the corporate ind
complex and those who pull the strings from the shadows ......

JFK's immediate predecessor President Eisenhower was head of the Allied forces in
the west during D Day and head of NATO and two term occupant in the White
house and was an insider but did not know everything and there is speculation he
met with ET's and more. As he left office in 1961 only a couple of years before the
US coup he tried to warn of the power of the mil ind complex etc.....

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Full Speech.....Eisenhower Farewell Address (Best Quality) - 'Military Industrial
Complex' WARNING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU
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Eisenhower Speaks About Murder of JFK (1963)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyGzVQGgdqw

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Eisenhower's Meeting With Alien's

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Published on 8 May 2010
Henry W. McElroy, Jr, retiring State Representative to New Hampshire, declared
that former U.S. President Eisenhower was briefed about the presence of
extraterrestrial intelligent beings on Earth. McElroy also said that the document he
viewed while at the State Legislature made reference to the opportunity for
Eisenhower to meet the alien visitors.

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President Eisenhower's Secret Meeting with ETs in 1955 - The Real Story

Presented at the X Conference 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1ZCEiVrgg

Published..... 2009

Art Campbell Brings with him to this years X-Conference an astounding story
backed up with witness testimony. Manuel Kirklin, was an Air Force Medic and high
altitude chamber specialist stationed at Holloman AFB in 1955. Kirklin details
several eye witness reports of President Eisenhower at Holloman on or about
February 11th, 1955 in Ike's third year of his first term. After Ike's arrival at
Holloman, two UFOs flew over the flight line; one landed near Iks's plane,
Columbine III, and Ike went aboard. What was intriguing about the incident was
that the President snuck away from thirty or so reporters while on a bird hunting
expedition near Thomasville, GA during high international tension over Formosa
(Taiwan). Campbell's investigation includes information through guards assigned to
the president, the complete flight records and two additional independent witnesses
who give LIVE video taped testimony. This story and the trail of investigation that
followed provide compelling proof that President Eisenhower did indeed met with
beings from another planet at Holloman AFB in 1955.

[Universoul]

Maybe we're living in a day and age where the machinations of those in worldly power are showing more, that or they (or their bosses) are getting impatient for more suffering.

Then again peasants of old were probably aware of how much their feudal lords liked to war too. So maybe malignant aggression and senseless destruction never went out of style.

Both sides of the political fence in America are beating the war drum. I can't talk to some conservative friends without them talking about how we need to bomb NK and teach them a lesson, yet some liberal friends are living in a new "red scare". It's like their conscious minds shut off and hysteria takes over, as if they don't realize what they're giving their emotions to.

There's little representation in the media (and the general collective consciousness) for opposition to war, or rather for a path of sanity and constructive futures. I think most people don't want war, their souls/instincts/common sense don't want war. That isn't given a voice by actors and the media. I think some of those people who are pushing the fear rhetoric are going to wake up some day and feel really low about themselves. Maybe guilt and regret help pull people back to this planet to reincarnate. Maybe people are set up so that by the time they do sober up and realize their selves it's too late to change many things, so they get drawn back. Point is we're all victims of the "matrix" mess to some degree.

So you have to wonder what's running it all. Greedy people who see a chance to make more billions with more war? Archons or some kind of negative entities? If those entities have benefited from human suffering for ages, what can we do? What's the most constructive path toward healing, and not turning into another destroyed civilization in history?

The "end of the world" predictions that we see these days may be steam valve releases, anxiety stored up in people for all the fear that is shoved into the collective mind. That fear rhetoric seems to be leading toward insane saber rattling for war. Talk about nuclear war has turned into water cooler conversation. If you talk about freedom and healing for all, that we have the means and technology to walk a much better path today, you get called crazy.

If there are negative entities influencing people toward suffering, we might be in a stalemate. The negative will never totally win and defeat all the life and positive energy on the planet. The positive will never totally defeat the negative while it sinks to that level of conflict with it. It may be able to develop and mature though like the bigger white circle in the yin/yang symbol, learn to contain the negative and appreciate that it has a place (as long as it doesn't get out of balance and take over).

The negative, whatever you define it as, will never achieve total control and order across the planet. There's too many tones here. I believe we could do a lot toward healing for all, including those negative entities, if there wasn't so much resistance. I find that exercising an integrative and accepting mind and heart helps. Remembering that there are many tones on this planet. It's not about pushing one's own on to everyone else, or following one monotone beat. It is simply empowering to remember that we each have our own and are surrounded by many others. Then we can also look at nature, the world, the universe as a sort of symphony of all these different tones and notes with a complexity that would boggle Mozart and Tesla (yet a child could understand). The human body itself is a collection of different energies working together, so it's not a far off new age concept.

When war is stirred it's like clanging two pieces of metal together. We could quickly rejoin the civilized universe if we remembered that it is in our natures to do more than clang destructive things together.

So if we're at a stalemate and those with the means are promoting a "reset" of civilization what can we do? How can we save ourselves, individually and as a whole? I'm not trying to present a literal "go rush out and do something right now" answer with this post. Just speculation. Maybe wanting to rush to "do" something and have the answers is part of the problem.

[Foxie Loxie]

Excellent post, Universoul!! :highfive: I think your "name" contains the answer. We ARE all One Soul. Everything flows from One Consciousness, but each one of us has to make our own choices....thus the chaos & confusion is never ending as each "soul" is going through its learning process. As we all know, that can be a very painful process. :bigsmile: As Wade Frasier pointed out, we have to rise above the wanting to punish the evildoers & look at everything in a different light.(I'm just paraphrasing what he said.)

[Charles Harris]

I noticed you pop up on Wades' thread recently. It's encouraging to see his work referenced, "Love IS All We Need"

[Universoul]

Excellent post, Universoul!! :highfive: I think your "name" contains the answer. We ARE all One Soul. Everything flows from One Consciousness, but each one of us has to make our own choices....thus the chaos & confusion is never ending as each "soul" is going through its learning process. As we all know, that can be a very painful process. :bigsmile: As Wade Frasier pointed out, we have to rise above the wanting to punish the evildoers & look at everything in a different light.(I'm just paraphrasing what he said.)

Thank you:highfive:! I like the name because you can't spell soul without the u (you/unity/universe), and do appreciate those who've done work to relay ideas about oneness to the world. I think concepts of oneness can help with making some sense of what is going on here both personally and collectively. Just opening the mind and thinking about Oneness, or One Consciousness, or the "One", or the notion that there's "more" to the bigger picture can be important. I'm a fan of any idea that can give constructive pause and cause us to sober up. Especially if that means pausing and not lashing out in reckless ways. Is it the best course? Is it a fight that can be won or does it (more likely) lead to self destruction? I think that sober logic and deep empathy are often on the same side, that of finding the most constructive way forward.

I really agree with your last statement about seeing things in a different light. Sometimes it's the only thing we can do. It doesn't seem like one is "doing" anything just by looking at things differently but it can be a first step.

[Foxie Loxie]

"sober logic and deep empathy" What an unlikely combination, right?! That's good!! :idea: May we all move in that direction! It took me a long time to learn to just BE....I AM! :cool:

[shaberon]

What have been the real risks for peace to break out?

In the European/American theater, it seems to me that the Treaty of Westphalia and the Iroquois Confederation were probably the only potentials for that. Most any other treaty, surrender, or empire breakup, carried the seeds of future destruction in it.

The Yemen problem is almost an exact copy of what happened around 1961. We've already bombed N. Korea, which is why they're mad at the U. S. and probably would be happier with a peace offering than a truce. The "people behind it"--those who won't directly participate, but do seek material gain--well, all I can say is they're particularly unwelcome wherever I am.