The unified field theory as explained by Nassim Haramein

[dynamo]

September 25, 2017
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2017/09/25/unified-field-theory-explained-nassim-haramein/

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Nathaniel Mauka, Staff Writer
Waking Times

Nassim Haramein is a rogue physicist who thinks way outside the box. In fact, when he was just nine years old, traveling on a long bus ride to get home from school, when he realized that the Universe was just a bunch of “dots.” What came from an experience of astral projection in a small boy’s mind turned into the Theory of Everything, or what is commonly known as the Unified Field Theory.

An Elegant Discovery

Haramein’s discovery is elegant. In comparison to other theoretical physicists’ notions about what makes up “everything” it makes sense all the way out to the gargantuan real estate of our cosmos – in galaxies and quasars (baby galaxies just being formed), but also all the way down into the microcosmic level of quarks and planks. A planck being the energy discovered by Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck who won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1918 for discovering that all energy can be measured in universal constants.

The planck constant defines how particles and waves behave in the quantum field. This is an important concept, but let’s get back to Haramein’s discovery before we go much further.

A Boyhood Conundrum

In his boyhood class on geometry, his teacher told him that a point did not exist. This was called dimension zero. The teacher then wrote a line on the board – a series of dots, and said that this also did not exist. He called it dimension 1. Next, his teacher put four of these “non-existent” lines together to form a plane, and called this a plane. Of course, as you may have guessed, he called this dimension 2 and said that it still, did not exist.

Something that Exists from Nothing that Doesn’t Exist?

Finally, Haramein says when explaining his childhood memory, “my teacher gets to the third dimension – which is just a bunch of these planes put together to make a cube, and says, “now, this exists!” but I said to myself, it doesn’t matter how many planes you put together – 230 or a billion, you don’t get something that exists from a nothing that doesn’t exist!”

In brief, he was smart enough to question the assumption that even highly advanced theoretical physicists still try to work from today. This causes mathematical proofs that go on for pages and pages, but “at the end of the day” as Haramein explains, “they still don’t add up.”

In another lecture, Haramein explains that science must make sense all the way up and all the way down. When it doesn’t, the scientific community becomes manic – because there is no unity. They develop more grandiose equations to try to explain the simplicity of all things which, to him, became inordinately apparent. But, his view is seen as rogue and outlandish due to its simplicity. It creates unity instead of division.

The Paradox

When he says all the Universe is made up of dots “all the way up and all the way down,” he means that nothing ever exists, but “nothing” is all that exists. This was Haramein’s epiphany. The universe simply makes an infinite number of dots within dots within dots, within dots. The answer to the riddle was the exact opposite of what his teacher had told him when he was just a young boy in school.

The universe makes points of infinite division and assembles them on different scales to make everything we see. That includes the biggest things we can imagine like massive black holes ten billion times the size of our sun, all the way down to the smallest particle we have discovered thus far – the quantum particles below Planck’s scale. But there is no “smallest particle.” There are only infinitely smaller and infinitely larger dots.

These dots within dots within dots (or points in space-time) are what we experience as the material world, but this makes up less than 99.9% of our universe. Moreover, the space around these points is not empty– rather it’s a vacuum that’s filled with energy and only appears empty because it’s everywhere.

A Hong Kong University of Science and Technology study even found something to back up Haramein’s theoretical physics.

While studying astrophysics, they found that density distributions of the vast universe and the nature of the smallest particles are related – just like Haramein’s hunch that a true Theory of Everything must work all the way up and all the way down.

Scientists found a connection between those two aspects, and argued that our universe could be used as a particle physics ‘collider’ to study the high energy particle physics.

Only, we don’t need to keep colliding particles (CERN) in order to find another even smaller particle, because there is not a “smallest” particle, just more dots within dots within dots – infinitely.

Which brings us back to what was the smallest observable particle – the Planck – a subatomic particle, (but there are even now particles below Planck’s scale in the V range – because, remember there are only infinite points in space/time), yet the Theory of Everything works here, too, because Haramein’s physics is explained whether we are talking about massive black holes or subatomic wave/particles.

In brief, there are only dots. That’s all that exists.
And that’s the Theory of Everything. Simple.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFbCYOfxOnI

[Foxie Loxie]

WOW! Too amazing! :highfive: This is why I'm grateful to be a part of Avalon!! Makes me think of the "blinking" I heard about on some other video. Thanks SO MUCH, dynamo! :waving:

[mojo]

There are some really smart people on Avalon whom are into Physics that disagree with Nassim's hypothesis. And although I see Nassim as a bit of an outsider from the leading Physicist's POV it's important to consider that much of what we think of as solid science changes and at least Nassim is presenting outside the box. I watched one of his more recent lectures and it was definitely not the norm in terms of classrooms as it looked very down home. Yet watching some of his lectures was captivating. Reminded of that saying don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Here's the video I was mentioning and also he even comments about how the mainstream has it wrong.
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I think Nassim is close and eventually would led him to emergence theory.
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[Noelle]

WOW! Too amazing! :highfive: This is why I'm grateful to be a part of Avalon!! Makes me think of the "blinking" I heard about on some other video. Thanks SO MUCH, dynamo! :waving:

You mean how the universe blinks on and off? Richard Lighthouse - The Blinking Universe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g4kP4d83hw).

[zen deik]

Turtles on top of turtles on top of turtles.....

[ThePythonicCow]

There are some really smart people on Avalon whom are into Physics that disagree with Nassim's hypothesis. And although I see Nassim as a bit of an outsider from the leading Physicist's POV it's important to consider that much of what we think of as solid science changes and at least Nassim is presenting outside the box.
In my view, it is bogus reasoning to say that Nassim deserves consideration because he's thinking outside the box, and to say that criticism of Nassim is to be discredited because, of course, it is to be expected that thinking outside of the box will attract criticism.

Deeply flawed "thinking" is deeply flawed, regardless of where one draws the boundaries of the box called "conventional thinking".

I have previously shredded Nassim's "science". An "Advanced Search" on the ProjectAvalon.net forum for Posts with the Keyword "Nassim", by the User "Paul", will provide links to my debunking of Nassim's "science."

In short: Those "thinking" outside the box can be just as full of it as those "thinking" inside the box ... or, in Nassim's case, perhaps even more full of it.

Unfortunately, such disinformation (http://whale.to/m/disin.html) finds an audience.

[Foxie Loxie]

I admit I am NOT a scientist!! :sun: What I like is being exposed to all types of thinking here; I have learned so much since I joined. I'll have to check out your side of the aisle on Nassim, Paul! Thanks! This Grandma is having fun! :Party:

[dynamo]

I am truly surprised that no one asked (as I was hoping they would)...
"Ok, so Mr. Haramein, what exactly is a "dot", please?"...LOL!
But thanks to all for the comments, enjoyed reading them all!
Personally, I agree that Mr. Haramein is correct in simplifying what others have tried to do with elegant equations.
He just doesn't really finalize anything, however, IMO...
Life can be viewed as complicated and people will spend their entire lives trying to explain it, or life can be simple and people can spend their entire lives enjoying it.
The choice is a personal one...

I admit I am NOT a scientist!! :sun: What I like is being exposed to all types of thinking here; I have learned so much since I joined. I'll have to check out your side of the aisle on Nassim, Paul! Thanks! This Grandma is having fun! :Party:
Agreed, as will I, Foxie Loxie

[Ernie Nemeth]

I do not seem to use the same criteria as others. I am not looking for a guru of science who has all the answers. That person does not exist. I do look for pertinent data points - anywhere I can find them. Even if in a back alley espoused by some derelict of society. These points go in my personal file. That file is huge. Each point brings me a little closer to an understanding of reality I can make my own.

Nassim has some unique points, unlike anyone else - that is what I prize. Not his bank account, his affiliations, his opinions, his demeanor, his ambitions, his life style, his religion, or his race.

But then again I dared to say that of Wilcock - and not one word of his theories are even considered here.

And yet when some brainwashed newbie comes with wisdom teachings by some wanna-be master, and an agenda for recruitment, they get the floor.

Starting to make me wonder what the heck is going on

[dynamo]

I do not seem to use the same criteria as others. I am not looking for a guru of science who has all the answers. That person does not exist. I do look for pertinent data points - anywhere I can find them. Even if in a back alley espoused by some derelict of society. These points go in my personal file. That file is huge. Each point brings me a little closer to an understanding of reality I can make my own.

Nassim has some unique points, unlike anyone else - that is what I prize. Not his bank account, his affiliations, his opinions, his demeanor, his ambitions, his life style, his religion, or his race.

But then again I dared to say that of Wilcock - and not one word of his theories are even considered here.

And yet when some brainwashed newbie comes with wisdom teachings by some wanna-be master, and an agenda for recruitment, they get the floor.

Starting to make me wonder what the heck is going on
Remember the old saying..."Money talks".
The puppet masters will put those who can best relay their agenda to the masses, whom they wish to control, on the pedestal.

[Baby Steps]

PART 1 - not concerning protons

I had to wade through the maths to verify Nassim's paper on 'Holographic mass' before I posted here. I should have done it before, when I was trumpeting him on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97116-One-man-s-g.u.t.&p=1145971&viewfull=1#post1145971).

I looked into him because I am looking into the idea that particles are 'Black holes'. I wondered if Nassim's train of thought fitted in. Luckily he came through - in that my low level of maths was enough to establish what is going on in his paper.

Nassim's position in the earlier lectures was simply that his discovery is significant- it points to SOMETHING, but at the time he did not know what. Perhaps his later work takes it further. One reason why many would see a red flag is all the charisma, slick presentation, and woo woo semantics. Being an un-trained physicist, he is not rigorous in terms of what he found compared to where he suspects the research might go. This kind of presentation of his work would naturally attract those who want to follow a physicist without understanding the nuts and bolts of his work.

What he is doing in his paper 'Quantum Gravity & the Holographic Mass' (http://resonance.is/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1367405491-Haramein342013PRRI3363.pdf)is as follows:

1. Postulates a particle called a PLANCK SPHERICAL UNIT, derived from the planck length and mass- these quantities being fundamental and well established.
2. Works out the equatorial area and volume of those spheres
3. Using equatorial area, he mosaics them onto the surface of a black hole (a body defined by the schwarzchild equation r=2Gm/c2)
4. Using PSU volume he calculates how many would fit inside the black hole
5. He divides one by the other
6. He multiplies THAT number by the planck mass (the mass of a PSU)- and gets the same black hole mass as derived from Schwarzchild!

So we can say that his unconventional method is an alternative method for weighing a black hole. What does it mean? Not sure, however it IS a bridge between the quantum world and the macro world. I am going to try and grasp the proton bit next, but so far , so good.

https://i.imgur.com/dJ027nr.png

[sigma6]

I admit I am NOT a scientist!! :sun: What I like is being exposed to all types of thinking here; I have learned so much since I joined. I'll have to check out your side of the aisle on Nassim, Paul! Thanks! This Grandma is having fun! :Party:

This may come as a shocker, but neither is Paul...
"...Deeply flawed thinking is deeply flawed..." ?
wow... you can say that again... Lol...

Nassim's scientific research is now published, i.e. vetted by scientific peers... (and they are scientists!) '; D

Personally, I think he is a genius... with the ability to simplify concepts the masses can't even comprehend, consider the continuum, there are still people who believe the earth is flat... this alone gives one pause for thought...

[ThePythonicCow]

I admit I am NOT a scientist!!

This may come as a shocker, but neither is Paul...
... and neither are you :).


Nassim's scientific research is now published, i.e. vetted by scientific peers... (and they are scientists!) '; D
My prior work posted on this forum debunks both Nassim's "science" and his claims to "scientific peer review".

One has to do a bit of thinking however, and not just take Nassim's claims to being scientific or to having been competently peer reviewed.

[amor]

Consciousness, mind, is the fundamental field out of which the concept of a charge is created. There is only ONE charge. Spinning vortices (pinwheels) located next to each other emit the charges (or forces). The arms (forces) of neighboring pinwheels meet those of its neighbor coming up as its arms are going down. They meet at an angle less than 90 degrees, and as they are the same "charge," they repel at "resultants" of their meeting angles. Extrapolating enumerable and continuing happenings like this forms a huge knitting of moving masses which eventually form the same patterns everywhere. They begin small and get larger because of the form of the fibbernachi(?) sequence. The points at which the "charges" overlap is the point at which they change their angles and accelerate away from each other at "resultant" angles; these may be considered the MASS points. At the same stage of interactions the patterns are the same everywhere. As the size of the sequences increase so do the patterns that they form, e.g. "As above so below." This complex, layered knitting is the electric field born out of the zero field which, from our point of view down the line, is the world of MATTER. Matter is a constantly moving pattern which is really a WAVE FORM of what we may call elementary particle complexes. Expand on this idea and you may get back to Harriman's shape for the Universe. Extrapolate this idea and you may find how the creator replicates itself into duplicates (US). When we are complete, our minds can manipulate "matter" to co-create with the creator. Run with this idea and see where it leads.

[Red Skywalker]

OK, nice theory, but WHY are there spinning fields of magnetic and electric energies? What is their origin and how do they relate to consciousness and time?

My answer is: because there is still absolutely nothing and only absolute coldness till infinity, never to be 'heated' up. Impossible. There is also no 'space', even now. It's all an vibratory illusion created by the EM-feedback loops, also called consciousness.
Each of us IS that One consciousness, indeed from the start of the Big Bang / start of the feedback loop as result of inside out turning of the tension created by the absolute cold emptiness. A story already mentioned in Genesis.

These answers you get when digging into this theories. Am I nuts?

[sigma6]

I admit I am NOT a scientist!!

This may come as a shocker, but neither is Paul...
... and neither are you :).


Nassim's scientific research is now published, i.e. vetted by scientific peers... (and they are scientists!) '; D
My prior work posted on this forum debunks both Nassim's "science" and his claims to "scientific peer review".

One has to do a bit of thinking however, and not just take Nassim's claims to being scientific or to having been competently peer reviewed.

"...Deeply flawed thinking is deeply flawed..." :idea:

[sigma6]

Worth watching, you can't watch this and not realize this guy is a natural genius...
The insights, independent confirmation and his regression and correlation analysis (if you understand statistics ;-) is clear scientific confirmation that he is onto something game changing... there is no way all these independent data points dovetail so perfectly... then goes even beyond that to independently confirm and decode all the ancient religions and philosophies... who apparently already knew this information... best video, as it was done by a professional production crew... watch at least 3 times...

Black Hole - Black Whole, Nassim Haramein


https://vimeo.com/141980138

[Baby Steps]

IS THIS SCIENCE?

I am not a trained scientist, and I do not know enough about physics to say, so for somebody like that, exploring this work it might be cheeky to say 'this is science'. To retain one's integrity, one would say - wow , I want to look deeper into this, as it APPEARS to have merit.

How about using the word 'Artist'? A metaphor being - a landscape artist, highly intelligent, observant, and intuitive, sees a pattern in the landscape he is painting. He decides that beyond words or paint, he will learn to depict what he sees with maths.

Is that science? No.

I suspect that Nassim is close to uncovering some fundamental patterns in how the universe and physics work. I however, am not qualified to state that it is right, nor , while retaining my integrity, can I believe that it is right. All I can say is I wish to go on that journey.

Looking into his paper, in the middle he just magics up a formula for the mass of a proton. It produces the correct result. It is not really derived from any established science or observation. However it works - and again, it is done in terms of Planck measurements.

This is not a condemnation. Reading about how Planck revolutionised physics 130 years ago, he was trying to arrive at an algebraic model for black body radiation. It had to fit with observations. There were others trying to do the same thing. Planck's great leap was that he came up with the idea of 'quantisation' , and the Planck constant.

But what process were they using? Sorry but it looks to me like the following: Planck and others were playing around algebraically with terms- temperature, distance etc. They were literally saying - to model what we see do we need to square this one, or put that one under the line, or invent a 'constant'. If one invents a constant- does one multiply or divide? Planck created his constant, much like Newton created G. Subsequent observation and algebra then confirmed the constants, and physics is built on them.

So I would not be too hard on Nassim, for dreaming up a formula for proton mass. If it is right, subsequent scientific examination will confirm it. The interesting bit is, once one understands his two key formulas- the Holographic Mass of a black hole, and the Holographic mass of a Hadron - like a proton, what , assuming they are right, do they tell us about how the universe works?

It is epic and revolutionary.

[Baby Steps]

Part 2 - Derivation of Proton mass

The following is how he derived PROTON MASS.

https://i.imgur.com/MX9EKBp.png

[ThePythonicCow]

Part 2 - Derivation of Proton mass

The following is how he derived PROTON MASS.
When someone calculates a bunch of numbers and derives an interesting numerical result, one has to ask, and understand, whether or not the interesting result was implicit in the supposedly innocuous inputs to the calculation.

For those reading this who are unsure what to think ... I would recommend being leary of glossy hype and over hyped messengers ... I find such to be signs of a bastardization of a topic, converting it into a modern day religion. The one's behind such propaganda usually have other more nefarious purposes.

This happens in physics, technology, energy, economics, politics, etc, etc ... and has been happening throughout the history of human civilization.

It is a key means by which the elite control the masses.

Personally, in the field of physics, I am presently listening with interest to the work of Robert Distinti. I find the physics claims by Nassim Haramein to be unfortunate, and I am dismayed, but sadly not surprised, that he is being hyped as a key "priest" of the coming new physics, which will replace the relativity and quantum mechanics of the last century (also sadly flawed physics) and which will apparently provide the foundation for the new energy and transportation technologies that will likely take humanity to the stars.

[Jayke]

I was a big fan of Haramein when he first came on the scene, he has a gift for debunking the flawed Einsteinian physics model, but his work seems to have been hitting dead ends when it comes to using his new physics to engineer anything practical or create new inventions.

I always follow the golden rule from the Huna spiritual system when it comes to assessing the validity of people's theories, the idea that "Effectiveness is the measure of truth", and in that regard I've been following the inventors who talk at the energy science conference (http://energyscienceconference.com/2017-speakers/) on a yearly basis. Aaron Murakami is the host and in his personal work he's created a synthesis of all these various inventors ideas and created a physics model that explains all the exotic energy technology phenomena he's encountered. His presentation called 'hacking the aether (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s67EjlIJv5E)' can literally turn a persons perception of physics on its head.

There's also the ex-darpa physicist Claude Swanson whose collated a couple huge tomes of research on subtle energy physics in his books synchronised universe (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Synchronized-Universe-New-Science-Paranormal/dp/097452610X) and life force (https://www.amazon.com/Life-Force-Scientific-Basis-Synchronized/dp/B003MS8M3O), which contain lots of studies into torsion physics and how an understanding of it really replaces both general relativity and quantum mechanics.

Haramein smashes general relativity but then tries to use the broken pieces to build his own theory, he'd be better off just throwing the pieces away and clearing the slate completely imo.

[sigma6]

Science is it's own 'religion'... meaning it has accumulated it's own dogmas... this is particularly troubling in science because nowhere is the hypocrisy and dishonour of such practices so inappropriate and embarrassing... this is why the modern lay person is so justifiably confused to begin with... there is so much political contamination of 'science' in today's corporate sponsorship of universities, not to mention the secret societies infiltration of administrative positions... which leads to things like the hiding of prehistoric high technology, and numerous giant human bones... to introducing 'evolution' into schools based on PhD hoaxed non existent missing links, in this case, and at that time, it was 'Piltdown Man'... with no correction even after 40 years of misinformation (enough to brainwash entire generations) in fact anything that exposes the fallacy of darwinian evolution... is perversely endless...

we now have evidence of faster then light speed travel, yet anything that contradicts Einstein's theories is equally 'buried'... These are abuses of complex ideas to confuse people... and maintain a certain status quo... now if you were applying this to darwinian evolutionary theory... you'd have my attention, but the fact that something like this is so overlooked and accepted as "science" by many, even on this forum... and yet what Haramein is doing isn't accepted suggests some people have no concept of statistical analysis or even fundamental scientific methodology in general... (go figure...) there was some controversy around the proton interpretation, but that represents a tiny percentage of the ovrall picture, and there have been ongoing updates to the model... that's how science works... no one on this thread comes close to Haramein's genius... despite the grandiose prognostications suggested otherwise... but of course it's nice to bask in the shade of copying and pasting or repeating someone else's jargon and giving the 'impression' of indepth understanding...

There is simply no way to fake the perfect integration of the sacred geometry which represents a precise model of the structure of the vacuum with ancient egyptian schematics etched into stone using laser technology to hebrew cabala to chinese concepts of yin yang, i-ching, the pyramidal structures themselves, the manifestation of the pyramid layout with the belt of orion, repeated all over the planet, planetary hotspots perfectly aligning with the internal pyramid inside the planet (as a manifestation of the atom energy pattern, duplicated on mars and jupiter, etc, etc, etc. ad nauseum... just to mention a few independent confirmations that were previous 'mysteries' for the last many centuries (until Haramein arrived...) To not even begin to grasp the basic gist of what is being presented must be a sad place to be... I think it most unfortunate... but let people watch Black Whole for themselves... it's just too brilliant... and you really might want to consider watching it a few times... it is so rich with so much information... it was a quite bit to digest on the first go... but with each viewing, the profundity and amazement will only increase... as the presentation of how all the pieces fit together is truly breathtaking... truth is truly stranger (and more marvelous) than 'fiction'...

His knowledge is dangerous to the mainstream 'public' view... precisely because the implications are that we are still living in the dark ages... yet we are literally, physically, scientifically sitting on the cusp of a universe of unlimited energy, unlimited possibilities... if we could only learn to pull our collective heads out of our collective arses... ': D

[Foxie Loxie]

What came to my mind was the Aether talked about by the ancients. If we can pull energy out of the entirety of what surrounds us or that medium in which everything exists....?? If I understand correctly, many Free Energy systems have been simply bought up by the Controllers. How DOES one break down entrenched systems that have been in effect for a lifetime; or for that matter....hundreds of years?(Like the System that had controlled my entire life) :bigsmile:

Belief Systems of any kind seem to be a large part of what is causing confusion within humanity & not allowing "progress"; that & the love of power & money! :cash:

[Jayke]

There is simply no way to fake the perfect integration of the sacred geometry which represents a precise model of the structure of the vacuum with ancient egyptian schematics etched into stone using laser technology to hebrew cabala to chinese concepts of yin yang, i-ching, the pyramidal structures themselves, the manifestation of the pyramid layout with the belt of orion, repeated all over the planet, planetary hotspots perfectly aligning with the internal pyramid inside the planet (as a manifestation of the atom energy pattern, duplicated on mars and jupiter, etc, etc, etc. ad nauseum... just to mention a few independent confirmations that were previous 'mysteries' for the last many centuries (until Haramein arrived...) To not even begin to grasp the basic gist of what is being presented must be a sad place to be... I think it most unfortunate... but let people watch Black Whole for themselves... it's just too brilliant... and you really might want to consider watching it a few times... it is so rich with so much information... it was a quite bit to digest on the first go... but with each viewing, the profundity and amazement will only increase... as the presentation of how all the pieces fit together is truly breathtaking... truth is truly stranger (and more marvelous) than 'fiction'...

His knowledge is dangerous to the mainstream 'public' view... precisely because the implications are that we are still living in the dark ages... yet we are literally, physically, scientifically sitting on the cusp of a universe of unlimited energy, unlimited possibilities... if we could only learn to pull our collective heads out of our collective arses... ': D

Yes I'm sure Harameins presentation is all very pretty and intellectually stimulating but what has he actually invented based on his theories?

[sigma6]

There is simply no way to fake the perfect integration of the sacred geometry which represents a precise model of the structure of the vacuum with ancient egyptian schematics etched into stone using laser technology to hebrew cabala to chinese concepts of yin yang, i-ching, the pyramidal structures themselves, the manifestation of the pyramid layout with the belt of orion, repeated all over the planet, planetary hotspots perfectly aligning with the internal pyramid inside the planet (as a manifestation of the atom energy pattern, duplicated on mars and jupiter, etc, etc, etc. ad nauseum... just to mention a few independent confirmations that were previous 'mysteries' for the last many centuries (until Haramein arrived...) To not even begin to grasp the basic gist of what is being presented must be a sad place to be... I think it most unfortunate... but let people watch Black Whole for themselves... it's just too brilliant... and you really might want to consider watching it a few times... it is so rich with so much information... it was a quite bit to digest on the first go... but with each viewing, the profundity and amazement will only increase... as the presentation of how all the pieces fit together is truly breathtaking... truth is truly stranger (and more marvelous) than 'fiction'...

His knowledge is dangerous to the mainstream 'public' view... precisely because the implications are that we are still living in the dark ages... yet we are literally, physically, scientifically sitting on the cusp of a universe of unlimited energy, unlimited possibilities... if we could only learn to pull our collective heads out of our collective arses... ': D

Yes I'm sure Harameins presentation is all very pretty and intellectually stimulating but what has he actually invented based on his theories?

Have you considered the differentiation between the concepts of "researcher" and "technologist"? ... Technology is the application of scientific research... i.e. I think that's why they are called theoretical physicists... because they do the research... hope that helps.. Now which one is 'prettier'? You got me there... but you can't have one without the other... (Tesla might have been the exception, but he was buried in favour of Einstein, who might not even have been the original author of his own theoretical works... ) ; )

Is it any wonder we are still living in an intellectual and even spiritual 'dark ages'?... at least for the great majority of the masses... almost there.... almost there... ; P

[Jayke]

I'd agree that Harameins work would be a huge paradigm shift for the majority of people, moving us out of the dark ages and inspiring a shift to something more golden...but I'm always drawn back to Tesla's quote when it comes to theoretical physicists "Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality".

Theoretical physicists have been spinning around in circles for the past century trying invent new theories, how much in the way of practical inventions have come out of those theories though? Haramein might be spinning an octave (or several) above traditional, supposedly 'academic' physicists, but until anyone can build a practical, useable, real world invention based on Harameins theories, then it's a theory that's of no more use than the useless string theory imo. Especially when there's communities of inventors who are following in the tradition of Tesla, building real world devices first and then reverse engineering the physics model based on the phenomena they witness in the engineering lab.

If people like Eric Dollard, Paul Babcock, Aaron Murakami, Peter Lindemann, John Bedini etc got as much exposure as Haramein gets, then society would be in a place where the rubber could hit the road (theory combining with invention) to take flight into a new stratosphere of human evolution. Haramein was the one who broke me out of the 'relativity paradigm' pushed by the elite--so in that regard I'm greatfull for his work--but once you get outside the box and realise how many alternatives their really is to choose from, Haramein will continue to get left behind until he comes out with the first practical invention based on his theories (otherwise society will just keep spinning in circles for another century while ultimately getting nowhere).

[sigma6]

He's just another guy showing that the vacuum isn't really a vacuum... (in a big way...) the Michelson–Morley experiment was either accidentally or purposely misinterpreted... either way it was redone by the US Navy and eventually proved to be quite real... (as per Gregg Braden research...) but even this discovery is being suppressed! i.e. that space is substantial and energetic, not an empty void... which is meaningless in quantum physics, the 'ether' is a field of unlimited potentiality... But right now that is being suppressed in mainstream science... thanks to people like Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye (who are magically positioned front row center in front of the kids (what a shame)... however once this scientific reality is established, more research will start to grow on how to tap it... but I think all this stuff has been done already... But as long as the public refuses to even acknowledge it's existence we have no momentum... each consciousness either contributes to the change we seek in this world or holds it back... right now the majority of consciousness is not even conscious!... Of course this only serves though who wish suppress this knowledge...

Haramein's job is to raise consciousness with his theoretical research, his proofs, the formulas, the models, the mechanism behind the theories... he's not an inventor (technological application) but his research will create the rationale and lead the way... right now every career physicist and his cousin is trying to suppress this rather than go back to the drawing board and re-educate themselves and/or jeopardize their lucrative paychecks and tenure...

[Baby Steps]

A quick visualization of NH's work (the tiny bit I get)

So the PSU's are a postulation. Very small. Very Heavy. Oscillators. He calls them worm holes, because they are not fully here in this dimension.

To what extent are they 'here' and to what extent are they 'elsewhere'?

Well, lets start with three conditions that they can be in (perhaps of many).

a) we have the vacuum. They are NOT THERE- no mass is present, just a teeny feed of energy (Casimir effect) into the vacuum from elsewhere. NH would argue that it is the Plancks that are the route into our reality for this energy.

b) we have the event horizon of a Proton. NH is saying that this event horizon is composed to Plancks, however they, like in the vacuum, are not fully there. They are in a condition where they are partially there, some mass is present, but most of the mass IS NOT. The system, however is very stable.

c) We have the event horizon of a black hole. If you wall paper a black hole sized body (per Schwarzchild) with ONE LAYER of the postulated PSU’s, the mass is much greater than that of a black hole. So the Plancks are not fully there. But they are there to a greater degree, and they are there in proportion to the surface theorized quantity in ratio to the spherical volume theorized quantity.

So where are they – or is there a condition where they are fully ‘there’? In a mathematical construct, you can just imagine them as spheres in a tightly packed matrix. This would be so dense that the entire universe would pack into a very small volume. This has led some to postulate a ‘Planck Epoch’ very early on in the life of the universe.

To visualize these PSU’s

I kind of think of them as a spring. Bouncing between different spaces – so a bit like string theory. Energetic events in our 3D vacuum can tug onto the springs that very slightly impinge here, and pull enough into our reality to weave a stable event horizon out of the vacuum. Energy would be needed. NH talks about Coriolis effects. I interpret that to mean centrifugal spin. So if there is a strong eddy caused in the vacuum/Aether, with enough disturbance or energy input, a stable particle can be woven out of Plancks that stabilize with a greater part of their mass anchored into our 3d reality.

A visual metaphor for this - start with a diver. You dive down and enjoy swishing your hands through the water. Then you get to the sandy bottom and use sand grains to swish with water – so you can see the architecture of the eddies and vortexes.

Now, lucky you, you are a space man instead of a diver. You have been given a magic hand. Its magic because it can wave and swish at very high energies, speeds etc, it is small, but you can see it. It reveals what is going on, at a quantum level. So let’s swish. When you start increasing the energy, you start feeling resistance in the vacuum that you are floating in. You start to see in the turbulence behind your swishing hand, little bits of something that briefly appear then disappear. Wow. Swish harder. You start seeing eddies and vortexes. Wow, lets go harder still. POP! A spherical object formed in a vortex behind your hand.

It is strong and stable, and floats away into space. The magic hand can tell you how much energy you expended to weave some mass into our 3D reality.

At this point I would part company with NH, and suggest that the partial stabilization of the Plancks into 3D is partial because they are springing back and forth within multiple higher physical dimensions, leading possibly to a continuum up in an 8D space. If our continuum is a weave of Plancks then it says some interesting stuff to me.

According to Garrett Lisi , his maths allows for the plethora of particles, including the Higgs(?), that are all expressions of the same continuum lattice surface that twists and moves in different ways, so stabilizes into different forms according to different movements. Note the Higgs ‘decays’ so really, the different particles are expressions of the same continuum. So there are NOT quarks inside protons. The quarks observed are an expression of a different energetic condition of the same continuum lattice. You get the quarks when you smash bits of the lattice together at sufficiently high energies.. But that does not mean they are present within protons , or make protons.

The proton can be a fundamental particle, and quarks can also be a reality.

This idea casts a humerous angle on CERN and the quest for ultimate reality by making things as small and energetic as possible. It’s like trying to learn about the biology of grapefruit by shooting them out of a cannon onto a brick wall. There is an elite of rich scientists, with massive credibility, but who’s physics and maths are so complex and rarified that only a few hundred people understand them. These people are telling the world that they need billions more to make huger machines to get higher energy levels. Really they are saying that if they had a bigger cannon, and a harder brick wall, they expect – finally – to have demystified the ultimate reality of that poor grapefruit.

[Foxie Loxie]

Loved the grapefruit analogy, Baby Steps! Of course, I understand none of this, but I did like sigma6's statement, " ...space is substancial & energetic, not an empty void." Could you intelligent guys tell me how The Electric Universe fits into all this? Is plasma the Aether? :confused:

[Baby Steps]

Loved the grapefruit analogy, Baby Steps! Of course, I understand none of this, but I did like sigma6's statement, " ...space is substancial & energetic, not an empty void." Could you intelligent guys tell me how The Electric Universe fits into all this? Is plasma the Aether? :confused:

hi, youv'e got me....but I bet it does fit. There are some great thinkers in that paradigm, i think at some point it will come together and all instruments in the orchestra will be seen to be playing in tune!

[Foxie Loxie]

What I don't "get" is that apparently we are already using some sort of energy to "send ET home", yet no one in the public truly understands what is going on? Huh?!

[Baby Steps]

What I don't "get" is that apparently we are already using some sort of energy to "send ET home", yet no one in the public truly understands what is going on? Huh?!

me neither, however the 'black' guys have had a long time to back engineer stuff. They also may have a working grand unified theory of physics that allows them to solve stuff that is still a mystery in mainstream science. Now that would be 'the biggest secret'

[Jayke]

Loved the grapefruit analogy, Baby Steps! Of course, I understand none of this, but I did like sigma6's statement, " ...space is substancial & energetic, not an empty void." Could you intelligent guys tell me how The Electric Universe fits into all this? Is plasma the Aether? :confused:

As far as I understand it, plasma isn't the aether but plasma (and electricity) follow aetheric lines of force, or torsion waves as lots of scientists call them now. Aaron Marukami talks about the connection between the two in his 'hacking the aether' presentation. He draws a lot of his principles from the work of Bruce Depalma, another free energy inventor who got silenced by the big oil companies.

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[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Jayke! Now I can add "torsion waves" too! Plasma, Aether, Electricity? :noidea:

[Zanshin]

sigma6 - with reference to all your posts above, well said.

[Ernie Nemeth]

The relationship between line and circle is the fundamental key to understanding reality in this region of space at least. Reality is the melding of the finite and the infinite into a comprehensive whole. From the point of view of the infinite, there can be no finite phenomena. From the point of view of the finite, the infinite is forever out of reach. Yet these two fundamental principles drive the reality around us.

Nothing finite can exist, by definition alone it cannot. Any finite form requires the rest to define it, an infinity of information that can never be resolved. And the infinite has no form at all. Yet in some cosmic mystery, form became manifest and infinity expanded beyond the limits of our understanding.

There is no solvable relationship between the line and the circle, only an approximation that is itself unresolvable. This unresolved condition seems to be the vector of reality. The swirling rivers of cosmic energy continually vector a resolution that never defines but merely circumscribes. These orbits of approximation resolve only the area of interference but never the phenomena itself.

Infinity dances circles around the finite. And the finite, instead of refining an existence, travel in straight lines away from resolution and definition. This is the cosmic motion, the reason why we say all things are in motion - they are, they are moving away from definitive proof, because there is none.

As we learn more, we see that perhaps the finite, the forms and structures, are upheld by an elastic, energetic, super-structure that stretches as a sheet across the entirety of reality. Not a form and not finite, it must be infinite and non-local.

This is the aether. This is the sea, the bedrock of reality. A singular whole. A totality. The cosmic egg.

[Foxie Loxie]

Ernie Nemeth....are you saying that is what Consciousness is? The Aether...of which we all are a part? :confused:

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Foxie. I was just trying to frame the problem in a simplified way. The line and the circle are fundamental tools, as concepts. But as a context these two are very nearly an entire mystery. We have the mathematics, but we do not understand the meaning, the reality.

I had not thought of it that way. But since you bring it up, I suppose I am saying that, although, again, that does not explain much, does it? A sea of consciousness? From which we all take our sustenance and our ground of being?

Then the world of phenomena would be our 'work in progress' - our very own creation, itself alive and growing, spinning off new realities and new potentials.

Could be, I suppose.

[Flash]

That is precisely the actual problem with science and universities. In order to have grants, theres is to have a payback soon enough.

However, just 50 years ago, scientific research was mainly pure science, pure research, mainly theoretical, with no application in sight. If you had wanted applications with the relativity theories of Einstein, and financial payback, too early in his research, you would not have had the relativity theory, nobody would have supported his research.

Theoretical research, pure research, is a must of the advancement of science but it is very rarely done these days. So no, Harameins has not invented any application and he should not.



There is simply no way to fake the perfect integration of the sacred geometry which represents a precise model of the structure of the vacuum with ancient egyptian schematics etched into stone using laser technology to hebrew cabala to chinese concepts of yin yang, i-ching, the pyramidal structures themselves, the manifestation of the pyramid layout with the belt of orion, repeated all over the planet, planetary hotspots perfectly aligning with the internal pyramid inside the planet (as a manifestation of the atom energy pattern, duplicated on mars and jupiter, etc, etc, etc. ad nauseum... just to mention a few independent confirmations that were previous 'mysteries' for the last many centuries (until Haramein arrived...) To not even begin to grasp the basic gist of what is being presented must be a sad place to be... I think it most unfortunate... but let people watch Black Whole for themselves... it's just too brilliant... and you really might want to consider watching it a few times... it is so rich with so much information... it was a quite bit to digest on the first go... but with each viewing, the profundity and amazement will only increase... as the presentation of how all the pieces fit together is truly breathtaking... truth is truly stranger (and more marvelous) than 'fiction'...

His knowledge is dangerous to the mainstream 'public' view... precisely because the implications are that we are still living in the dark ages... yet we are literally, physically, scientifically sitting on the cusp of a universe of unlimited energy, unlimited possibilities... if we could only learn to pull our collective heads out of our collective arses... ': D

Yes I'm sure Harameins presentation is all very pretty and intellectually stimulating but what has he actually invented based on his theories?

[Jayke]

That is precisely the actual problem with science and universities. In order to have grants, theres is to have a payback soon enough.

However, just 50 years ago, scientific research was mainly pure science, pure research, mainly theoretical, with no application in sight. If you had wanted applications with the relativity theories of Einstein, and financial payback, too early in his research, you would not have had the relativity theory, nobody would have supported his research.

Theoretical research, pure research, is a must of the advancement of science but it is very rarely done these days. So no, Harameins has not invented any application and he should not.

I wish no one did listen to Einstein, he was living in the world of make believe, which is why how many inventions have been based on Einsteins theories exactly? The atomic bomb? Maybe some GPS satelites...but no they still use Newtonian mechanics to launch rockets. The theory of relativity is a dead that's continued to be a dead end for over a hundred years. How much money has been wasted in universities trying to prove it to be true? Without any conclusive proof appearing in a hundred years, where's the payout in that?

Pure research has nothing to do with fantasy, that's called a hypothesis. A hypothesis isn't proven until you can create a repeatable experiment that leads to repeatable results, results that then lead to workable technology. The real actual problem with universities is that genuine science, science that leads to real technology, gets suppressed and shifted into the black projects, while the fantasists get free reign to promote their theories to the general public.

[Sunny-side-up]

sigma6 - with reference to all your posts above, well said.

Ill second that.

Too much Main-Stream, Old-School-Established science is corrupted, misdirected, and or conveniently substituted.
This being done to make things seem to work, to keep new ways secret.
Being done by those who have vast vested interest in keeping things moving along the their old lines and so saving their power and face and reality.

[Baby Steps]

Without any conclusive proof appearing in a hundred years.

Relativity is the bed-rock of modern physics, as much as Newton and Planck. Haramein builds on it. One of the many proofs is light deflection (http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/light_deflection).

I found a good bio of Nassim here
(http://www.ascensionnow.co.uk/nassim-haramein--the-resonance-project.html)



This unification theory, known as the Haramein-Rauscher metric (a new solution to Einstein's Field Equations that incorporates torque and Coriolis effects) and his most recent paper The Schwarzschild Proton, lays down the foundation of what could be a fundamental change in our current understandings of physics and consciousness.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Baby Steps! I see I have a lot to look through! One statement that caught my quick attention was "We are at the Center of Creation". I'm wondering how that applies to the "Others" as we are not the only biological entities in existence. :confused:

[Baby Steps]

Thanks, Baby Steps! I see I have a lot to look through! One statement that caught my quick attention was "We are at the Center of Creation". I'm wondering how that applies to the "Others" as we are not the only biological entities in existence. :confused:

We use the term 'others' or even more disconnected 'Aliens'. The chances are that most of them, being very enlightened and recognising that they are us and we are them, are on a journey towards wisdom in which they attempt to refine their engagement with us, to a level that would be identified as 'divine'. They do not wish to cause any bad stuff, they respect free will, including our collective free will not to have contact , which we express whenever we, as a society, ignore events like the phoenix lights.

[Flash]

pure science does not have to translate into technology, and if and when it does, it may take a few centuries before you seen the results. So repeatable results, within centuries, maybe. And yes pure science is often theoretical and often seems to be in the dream land. But without it, you would not have the actual technology you have actually.

to me, your basic paradigm is wrong. Not everything on this planet has to give immediate results or be technology oriented. What about the planet evolution itself, it took millions of years. what about spiritual evolution that could be helped or proven through science? there is no immediate returns on this. Your view is very capitalistic, one slice of thinking over one tiny tiny slice of time on a whole planet evolution

The only thing I agree with you here is that the results of pure science leading sometimes to technologies are escaping into dark projects, and this is a shame really.






That is precisely the actual problem with science and universities. In order to have grants, theres is to have a payback soon enough.

However, just 50 years ago, scientific research was mainly pure science, pure research, mainly theoretical, with no application in sight. If you had wanted applications with the relativity theories of Einstein, and financial payback, too early in his research, you would not have had the relativity theory, nobody would have supported his research.

Theoretical research, pure research, is a must of the advancement of science but it is very rarely done these days. So no, Harameins has not invented any application and he should not.

I wish no one did listen to Einstein, he was living in the world of make believe, which is why how many inventions have been based on Einsteins theories exactly? The atomic bomb? Maybe some GPS satelites...but no they still use Newtonian mechanics to launch rockets. The theory of relativity is a dead that's continued to be a dead end for over a hundred years. How much money has been wasted in universities trying to prove it to be true? Without any conclusive proof appearing in a hundred years, where's the payout in that?

Pure research has nothing to do with fantasy, that's called a hypothesis. A hypothesis isn't proven until you can create a repeatable experiment that leads to repeatable results, results that then lead to workable technology. The real actual problem with universities is that genuine science, science that leads to real technology, gets suppressed and shifted into the black projects, while the fantasists get free reign to promote their theories to the general public.

[Jayke]

pure science does not have to translate into technology, and if and when it does, it may take a few centuries before you seen the results. So repeatable results, within centuries, maybe. And yes pure science is often theoretical and often seems to be in the dream land. But without it, you would not have the actual technology you have actually.

to me, your basic paradigm is wrong. Not everything on this planet has to give immediate results or be technology oriented. What about the planet evolution itself, it took millions of years. what about spiritual evolution that could be helped or proven through science? there is no immediate returns on this. Your view is very capitalistic, one slice of thinking over one tiny tiny slice of time on a whole planet evolution

The only thing I agree with you here is that the results of pure science leading sometimes to technologies are escaping into dark projects, and this is a shame really.

To me, you've obviously misinterpreted (or theoretically imagined) what you perceive my basic paradigm to be, to label it as capitalistic is highly naive and shows how far off the mark your comments are from what I've actually suggested in this thread. but seriously, you're going to have to define what you see as 'pure' science, because my definition of science is similar to what you see on wikipedia:

"Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe."

Testable, provable (i.e. predictable), repeatable
Am I mistaken, is that not what science is?

As I mentioned in my first post in this thread "Effectiveness is the measure of Truth"...That's a maxim from the Huna spiritual tradition, and its a maxim I live by. Effectiveness means to use your knowledge to create a reliable result. Creating technology shows that you know how to use knowledge to create reliable results, understanding how to create reliable results with your actions is wisdom.

The reason I look for inventors who've actually invented technology first, and then reverse engineered their theories based on what they see working in their engineering labs (people like Tesla, Bruce Depalma, Eric Dollard etc) is because their knowledge has grounded them in effectiveness, the implementation of their knowledge has grounded them in wisdom. There's nothing capitalistic about seeking effectiveness (seeking wisdom). Grounding yourself in effectiveness is what empowers spiritual growth and spiritual evolution.

Theoretical science is just magical thinking imbued with fairy dust, great for throwing glamour into a persons eyes, and enamouring them with fantasies, but if you ever want to achieve anything productive in life, you have to work with provable and effective principles that operate in the here and now, not something that might manifest aeons from now after enough magical thinking has been thrown at it by enough minds to rearrange the limitations of the universal or collective consciousness.

Theoretical thinking is great for conjuring up possibilities--I agree with that completely and see great value in it--but theoretical science just leaves you with a multitude of fantastical ideas, some of those hypotheses get filtered into reality through the trial and error approaches of refining how to make things work in the lab, other of those ideas have to be consigned to the garbage can, because as Tesla said "todays scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and...eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality"

Why waste time waiting for science to manifest in centuries when their are already a multitude of inventors building over-unity devices in the here and now (using completely different physics models than both Einstein and Haramein btw). Why sit under a barren tree waiting for something to sprout? Where's your support for the magical sciences that are already bearing fruit right now?

and why call my view capitalistic? (for simply asking for proof of a theory?) :facepalm: identity politics should be kept out of 'pure' science altogether don't you think?

[sigma6]

Loved the grapefruit analogy, Baby Steps! Of course, I understand none of this, but I did like sigma6's statement, " ...space is substancial & energetic, not an empty void." Could you intelligent guys tell me how The Electric Universe fits into all this? Is plasma the Aether? :confused:

thanks Loxie, I can see your my sweetest supporter '; ) and btw ... I absolutely loved Chicken Little Lol... I love to watch it over and over...

btw... the way I look at it... 'space' might not even be 'space'... if any of the simulation/holographic universe concepts apply, then there is no more space here then there is "space" inside a virtual reality video game... it's just "information"... with that example... I get what they mean it's all "information" (thanks to computers we can easily understand this...)

re: electric universe and plasma... is a whole other equation... since I'd say that operates in our "3D" reality... i.e. we can see plasma discharges etc... it should fit in with Newtonian physics (knock on wood) so one is "classical" physics, the other (ether) is described more in relation to quantum physics... I watched that video and the model makes more sense than current interpretation... I might even add it could be touching on both realms... due to it's unlimited scalability (maybe why it's being suppressed so much?) another example of a perfectly valid model being suppressed for what appears to be petty political reasons?... (disgraceful!)

[Foxie Loxie]

It's ALL, simply Consciousness.....could that be it?! :Angel:

[sigma6]

It's ALL, simply Consciousness.....could that be it?! :Angel:

I would agree... but it begs the question... what is consciousness?... I like Ayn Rand's (and other philosopher's) approach... it just is... she simply accepted it as an axiomatic constant... a given... and based all her analysis starting from that point... and in the process created two camps in the world of philosophy, pragmatics and realists who accepted their own experience and 'deniers' aka 'materialists' who insisted they were not really conscious... (i.e. insisting that their interpretation therefore was the result of pre-determined super sophisticated, but nonetheless robotic behaviour... (go figure!)

Obviously it should be easy to decide which side would eventually win... but this was a real delineation in philosophy... ( and still is by some accounts, but why heed anything someone says who insists they're not conscious? LOL... that would be like falling love with a Turing test program... and that IS an illusion, a simulation... ) And I have met and been taught by people (apparently professors) who maintain this view (completely unaware of the irony apparently... ': o

And I think Haramein's interpretation of how it could work (the mechanism) that explains WHY we experience consciousness is equally brilliant and a quantum leap (excuse the pun) in interpretation over and above Rand... (who just used simple logic and direct immediate experience...(insert "duhhh" here...) Haramein's explanation that because there is a "in here" (quantum, void, nirvana, ether, spirit world) and an "out there" ( the so called "3D physical reality" (that is not really "physical" at all...) so by definition, self awareness requires a feedback loop... and his answer, once again fits so beautifully... our conscious experience IS the proof... these two worlds must exist, one feeding into the other... in a reciprocal relationship...

To build on Tom Campbell's analogy... that I use myself... i.e. the first player video game, I would suggest we are both the avatar and player... or we can directly experience being the avatar, and with practice... we can separate (like OBE) and see ourselves as the player... but if there was no player, there is nothing to "animate" the avatar... in that case then the materialists would be right ... the avatar is nothing more than a physical (or should I say "informational" construct)

No wonder materialists have to deny their very own consciousness!

(God!... I just can't get enough of this kind of topic... : D

[Ernie Nemeth]

Didn't like the line and circle analogy? Okay then.

The two fundamental camps of science are interestingly divided on the topic of the duality of light. One team considers the particle aspect of light as fundamental, the others think it is the wave aspect. That's it. That is the history of modern science in one sentence.

Since the turn of the twentieth century, Dadaists and their leaders have led the vanguard toward existentialism and the modern belief in the particle nature of reality. This is the old guard stance to this day, over 100 years later. The universe is driven by forces that are 'carried' by particles.

Science is not driven by 'pure' research - it is driven by philosophical determination, by men like Satre and his ilk. They think the big thoughts, then others (scientists) venture forth to prove them right or wrong.

Most do not understand this tenuous connection, and it has been circumvented in recent decades by the black projects that give the wrong people the right to steer research into operational technology.

Research is no longer done for knowledge alone, if it ever was, following the trail wherever it may lead. No, now we research areas to do with vested interests and how to keep those interests and grow them exponentially via pys-ops, warfare, and information technologies.

Pure science has no immediate payback and so for the most part it is not done.

[Ernie Nemeth]

The line: particles.
The circle: waves.

[Jayke]

The line: particles.
The circle: waves.

Particles and waves. Materialism versus aether. It's all very left brain, right brain to me. Left hand path versus right hand path. Personally I've always been more interested in what happens when those two hemispheres are united in an alchemical wedding of insight, and the left hand and right hand combine in the spirit of harmony and collaboration.

Within particle and wave there's also sound and cymatics...and in that regard I'd suggest leaving the binary dualistic world of left and right for a moment and incorporate the third element of movement to create a dynamic tripartite structure.

A good place to start is Eric Dollards Versor Algebra, an algebra that combines lines and circles to create sound.

http://www.gestaltreality.com/energy-synthesis/eric-dollard/and-in-the-beginning-versors-by-e-p-dollard-2012/

Dollard is one of the only engineers since Tesla to recreate Teslas magnifying transmitter technology. Not only does he know how to recreate teslas work but he's also created his Versor algebra to teach people how to engineer the amplification of energy process. What does Dollard think of today's theories of quantum mechanics...

(A qoute from the above article)

The music of today has degenerated into the gutter sounds of “Hump N’ Slap,” and “Eubonic Barking Savages”, then the Boom….Boom Boom…….. Accordingly it is seen that the so called Science has followed a parallel path. This is known as “Quantum Mechanics”, the science of delusions. This “Science” in reality is no more than one big “Khazarian Circle Jerk”. And finally? Art! What an absolute joke. To criticize it is like slaying the slain. Today one can obtain a grant from the “Sheisenburg Foundation” to express one’s “artistic talent” by smearing human fecal matter onto a large canvas. Upon calling it “God” it will be worth millions. This is society today, COMPLETELY DEGENERATE

A "Khazarian Circle Jerk" lol that line cracks me up :)

So What does Dollards Versor Algebra look like in practice...it looks like J.S. Bach and Mozart, the science of the music of the spheres.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qccdb

If pure science has no immediate pay-off, why are the black projects supposedly 10,000 years (technologically wise) ahead of where we're currently at today? (According to various sources at least)

[Ernie Nemeth]

In the referred to article there is a mathematics that seems at first confusing, yet it is exactly the proportional relationship between line and circle that is being addressed, both in music and electrical fields. The mathematics is a phase relationship, just like the phases of the moon. In terms of electrical fields, the field strength and direction. In terms of music, the frequency and number of notes to a scale. Related harmonics are merely fractals of the original and resonate or relate in whole number intervals, thereby removing the small +/- error to all reasonable satisfaction (but not to perfection).

Yet in each case the relationship is proportional and cannot be resolved in terms of whole numbers. That is the reason for the math - to smooth out, or to average, the discrepancy.

A circle cannot be divided evenly by seven...

[Jayke]

To play beautiful music you don't need to play all 7 notes at the same time. I've watched how Dollard implements his Versor Algebra to find pristine chords i.e. find 2 or 3 notes on a scale whose harmonics don't cause any dissonance between each other, and the result is a resonance that allows aether to flow freely, without resistance, through an electrical circuit. With a series of overtone harmonics on a higher scale, that energy can be amplified through sympathetic resonance to the point that it generates more energy than required to put into the system to get the initial notes vibrating.

That's my current understanding of how his stuff works at least, I'll probably have to refine my analogies as I get into it more deeply. But currently Dollard is using this method to build an early warning seismic device, that detects extremely subtle vibrations in the earths crust and amplifies those signals, giving a pre-seismic warning system that can alert to the onset of earthquakes before they happen, giving a much earlier window of warning for people to find safety than traditional seismic detection devices.

[Foxie Loxie]

Either that or watch Dutchsince & follow the logic! :idea:

[sigma6]

When it's in superposition (existing in more than one place at a time, essentially a distribution of positions... it's a wave...) when it is viewed, recorded, interacted with... it collapses and behaves like a particle... and the mind blowing part, is that there is an undeniable relationship between these two states and our conscious interaction... another proof that consciousness is tangible and effects the (was going to say 'material') external 3D realm we call 'reality'... 'intention' experiments (exercises in the focus and control of our consciousness) show that we can move random number generators to produce statistically proven non-random results... plus the Emoto experiments... consciousness is part of the equation... Tom Campbell has one of the most intriguing explanations on the how and why...

[Baby Steps]

I asked Nassim the following, the correct answer would be 'go read my work and stop distracting me'

Anyway, maybe someone here could help. Sigma 6?


1. I think I have grasped the idea behind your very significant discovery that the strong force is in fact gravity- the way I put it to myself is - think of the proton as a bubble with the surface moving at c. When interacting with it - at a distance when the system can be modelled as a point mass, it has a certain mass (and gravitational attraction) based on the amount of mass it is presenting to us. But it is a spinning system (in some way), so as much of that surface is spinning away from us, as towards us. in these circumstances the relativistic component of the mass cancels out, and we are left with the mass of the part of the psu's that are held in our space, which is much less. Hence a proton is much lighter than a black hole. But if you get very close, you can no longer consider it a point mass. You are so close that your event horizon is much closer to the near surface of the bubble than it is to the far surface. In that location, the relativistic effect of 'spin' on the psu surface makes it locally VERY HEAVY- enough to produce the strong force. Am I in the ball park?

2. What holds a fixed proportion of the psu's in our reality? Can I assume that the psu's are in the same condition on all locations of the spherical proton event horizon (is it spherical?). If the force holding them in their condition is inertial, what kind of motion at the surface would produce identical inertial conditions over the whole sphere surface? Is that where coriolis forces come in?

3. If the surface is travelling at c, and the proton event horizon can be considered a 'black hole' event horizon, under what conditions could a greater proportion of the psu mass appear in this space? This difficulty appears to my (very slight) understanding to question the idea of a holographic psu solution for a black hole (but not a proton)

[Baby Steps]

The following is a great introduction to Elizabeth Rauscher a scientist of towering reputation, who co-wrote Nassim's paper: Scale unification- a universal scaling law for organized matter. (https://resonance.is/wp-content/uploads/SU.pdf)
Also a great you tube channel that I found on the following Collective Evolution article (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/07/10/one-of-sciences-most-spookiest-phenomena-was-just-achieved-in-space-quantum-entanglement/).(Covers the possible implications of entanglement.)

This lady is very inspiring. Part of the Berkeley hippy physics scene of the 60's, wisdom just pours out of her on topics such as remote viewing, quantum physics, Turing and 'psychic computers' . She says that although an AI might be able to pass the Turing Test, because it could never be psychic, it could never be conscious. I was thinking that the human race would be out of the woods by now if people like her had double the life span. If you downloaded her knowledge and personality into an AI bot, I fear it would, due to lack of a psychic connection, do more harm than good.

Her energy is fantastic and even without following the physics it is worth a listen to pick up on her sheer joy in exploring ultimate reality.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rwsIiihohA


Elizabeth A. Rauscher, PhD, is a physicist and parapsychological researcher. She is author of over 250 scientific papers as well as co-author of several books including Orbiting the Moons of Pluto: Complex Solutions to the Einstein, Maxwell, Schrodinger and Dirac Equations and The Holographic Anthropic Multiverse: Formalizing the Complex Geometry of Reality. She is also co-author of a forthcoming book titled Mind Dynamics in Space and Time: A Physicist’s Exploration of the Nature and Properties of Consciousness. She has served on the faculty of the University of California, Berkeley; John F. Kennedy University; and the University of Nevada, Reno. She has also worked as a researcher at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford Research Institute Radio Physics Laboratory, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. Her work has been featured in a book written by MIT professor David Kaiser titled, How the Hippies Saved Physics: Science, Counterculture, and the Physics Revival.

Here she explores the philosophical implications of quantum theory. She points out how “spooky action at a distance” has haunted physics since Isaac Newton’s theory of gravitation. Albert Einstein, who developed relativity theory, resisted quantum mechanics and developed the “EPR paradox” (with colleagues Podolsky and Rosen) as a way to show that quantum theory must be incorrect. Physicist John S. Bell later formalized the EPR paradox as a theorem. In recent years, John Clauser and other physicists have been able to test Bell’s Theorem and have shown – as Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen had predicted – that quantum theory does indeed imply “spooky action at a distance.” Particles are entangled with each other across space and time. This is also known as “non-locality”. Rauscher suggests that this entanglement may tell us something about how the human mind works.

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). His master's degree is in criminology. He serves as dean of transformational psychology at the University of Philosophical Research. He teaches parapsychology for ministers in training with the Centers for Spiritual Living through the Holmes Institute. He has served as vice-president of the Association for Humanistic Psychology, and is the recipient of its Pathfinder Award for outstanding contributions to the field of human consciousness. He is also past-president of the non-profit Intuition Network, an organization dedicated to creating a world in which all people are encouraged to cultivate and apply their inner, intuitive abilities. His American Indian name, chosen at age eight, is Soaring Eagle.

[ThePythonicCow]

The following is a great introduction to Elizabeth Rauscher a scientist of towering reputation, who co-wrote Nassim's paper: Scale unification- a universal scaling law for organized matter. (https://resonance.is/wp-content/uploads/SU.pdf)
Also a great you tube channel that I found on the following Collective Evolution article (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/07/10/one-of-sciences-most-spookiest-phenomena-was-just-achieved-in-space-quantum-entanglement/).(Covers the possible implications of entanglement.)

This lady is very inspiring. Part of the Berkeley hippy physics scene of the 60's, wisdom just pours out of her on topics such as remote viewing, quantum physics, Turing and 'psychic computers' . She says that although an AI might be able to pass the Turing Test, because it could never be psychic, it could never be conscious. I was thinking that the human race would be out of the woods by now if people like her had double the life span. If you downloaded her knowledge and personality into an AI bot, I fear it would, due to lack of a psychic connection, do more harm than good.

Her energy is fantastic and even without following the physics it is worth a listen to pick up on her sheer joy in exploring ultimate reality.

...

Elizabeth A. Rauscher, PhD, is a physicist and parapsychological researcher. ... In recent years, John Clauser and other physicists have been able to test Bell’s Theorem and have shown – as Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen had predicted – that quantum theory does indeed imply “spooky action at a distance.” Particles are entangled with each other across space and time. This is also known as “non-locality”. Rauscher suggests that this entanglement may tell us something about how the human mind works. ...
I will confess to preferring the "energy" of another physicist, Dr Caroline_H_Thompson, who has published papers casting a serious shadow of doubt over the published results of the EPR experiments and over their conclusion that this results demonstrate the presence of quantum entanglement and spooky action at a distance.

To put it simply, Dr Thompson shows that the results of these EPR experiments depended on showing that some measured values would be seen more often than other values, and that they incorrectly arrived at their conclusions, supporting quantum entanglement, by first discarding some of the data that would have otherwise led to the opposite conclusion.

Her papers on this topic:

Subtraction_of_Accidentals_and_the_Validity_of_the_Bell_Tests_by_Caroline_H_Thompson.pdf ("http://thepythoniccow.us/Subtraction_of_Accidentals_and_the_Validity_of_the_Bell_Tests_by_Caroline_H_Thompson.pdf)
The_Chaotic_Ball__An_Intuitive_Analogy_for_EPR_Experiments_by_Caroline_H_Thompson.pdf ("http://thepythoniccow.us/The_Chaotic_Ball__An_Intuitive_Analogy_for_EPR_Experiments_by_Caroline_H_Thompson.pdf)

[sigma6]

I asked Nassim the following, the correct answer would be 'go read my work and stop distracting me'

Anyway, maybe someone here could help. Sigma 6?


1. I think I have grasped the idea behind your very significant discovery that the strong force is in fact gravity- the way I put it to myself is - think of the proton as a bubble with the surface moving at c. When interacting with it - at a distance when the system can be modelled as a point mass, it has a certain mass (and gravitational attraction) based on the amount of mass it is presenting to us. But it is a spinning system (in some way), so as much of that surface is spinning away from us, as towards us. in these circumstances the relativistic component of the mass cancels out, and we are left with the mass of the part of the psu's that are held in our space, which is much less. Hence a proton is much lighter than a black hole. But if you get very close, you can no longer consider it a point mass. You are so close that your event horizon is much closer to the near surface of the bubble than it is to the far surface. In that location, the relativistic effect of 'spin' on the psu surface makes it locally VERY HEAVY- enough to produce the strong force. Am I in the ball park?

2. What holds a fixed proportion of the psu's in our reality? Can I assume that the psu's are in the same condition on all locations of the spherical proton event horizon (is it spherical?). If the force holding them in their condition is inertial, what kind of motion at the surface would produce identical inertial conditions over the whole sphere surface? Is that where coriolis forces come in?

3. If the surface is travelling at c, and the proton event horizon can be considered a 'black hole' event horizon, under what conditions could a greater proportion of the psu mass appear in this space? This difficulty appears to my (very slight) understanding to question the idea of a holographic psu solution for a black hole (but not a proton)

This is too technical for me... and I am not even sure what the stated goal of trying to ask this type of question and what you hope for in an answer... It's like seeing a Maserati in your driveway... the spiritualists want to know how it got there... the geeks want to know how individual components were manufactured... the 'pragmatic realists' (for lack of a better label in this context) although they might want to look under the hood (who wouldn't) they will foremost want to find the keys and want to take it for a spin in a large empty mall parking lot to see what it can do... '; ) best I can answer this... : )



On another note:

The following is a great introduction to Elizabeth Rauscher a scientist of towering reputation, who co-wrote Nassim's paper: Scale unification- a universal scaling law for organized matter. Also a great you tube channel that I found on the following Collective Evolution article.(Covers the possible implications of entanglement.)

This lady is very inspiring. Part of the Berkeley hippy physics scene of the 60's, wisdom just pours out of her on topics such as remote viewing, quantum physics, Turing and 'psychic computers' . She says that although an AI might be able to pass the Turing Test, because it could never be psychic, it could never be conscious.


Exactly my interpretation and rationale on the issue of "AI" and consciousness... (I just love it when someone or something independently confirms my own thoughts ; ) ) i.e. 'AI' will never be anything more than a hyper fast interactive database (that by definition, is constantly out of date...) and when an AI car runs over and kills someone... it will obviously have zero comprehension, remorse, and sadly this isn't an acceptable learning curve (or in the case of a computer... more additional info to file into said database...) i.e. there is NO CONSCIOUSNESS, NO AWARENESS...

And btw ... the 'statistical' argument that was used almost instantly to "defend" the 'accident', despite the fact that even laypeople instantly latched onto it in mindless agreement (even more pathetic) is a completely erroneous and misleading argument... unbelievable... scary unbelievable...

[sigma6]

Worth watching, you can't watch this and not realize this guy is a natural genius...
The insights, independent confirmation and his regression and correlation analysis (if you understand statistics ;-) is clear scientific confirmation that he is onto something game changing... there is no way all these independent data points dovetail so perfectly... then goes even beyond that to independently confirm and decode all the ancient religions and philosophies... who apparently already knew this information... best video, as it was done by a professional production crew... watch at least 3 times...

Black Hole - Black Whole, Nassim Haramein


https://vimeo.com/141980138

reposting with new vimeo insert... (awesome thank you to Ilies I think!?) ... this is so worth watching... I can't stress enough how it needs to be viewed many times...

[Baby Steps]

I reproduced a brilliant Nexus article on Nassim's work here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97116-One-man-s-g.u.t.&p=1172243&viewfull=1#post1172243)

When Nassim talks about a 'Schwarzchild Proton' he is saying that the Proton event horizon is 'Black Hole' event horizon. What he means is, that the attractive force that binds the nuclei of atoms together - the 'strong force' exactly resembles gravity IF you take the correct radius for the Proton, and ASSUME it is a black hole as described by Schwarzchild.

You then use Einstein's field equations for gravity , that describe gravitation in the vicinity of a black hole (part of general relativity) and it produces a facsimile of the strong force. To me this is earth-shatteringly significant, epic and a discovery that ranks with the work of the greats.

However, the conventional academic world almost totally rejects the importance of this.

Probably the main reason is that a proton does not weigh anything like as much as a black hole of that size. As far as I know, nobody including Nassim has come up with an answer to this problem, but it will come. It means that for a distant observer, the proton weighs a certain amount, and responds to gravity as does any other object, in a Newtonian way. But if you are looking at conditions in the immediate vicinity of the spinning event horizon, the local surface that you are interacting with becomes much heavier.

To marry the two issues would be great, and I think it will relate to how the fluid dynamics of the vacuum/psu matrix work.

https://i.imgur.com/AwK0tLS.gif

[Foxie Loxie]

Beautiful!!!! :sun:

[Baby Steps]

Difference in mass measured for a Proton and a schwarzchild Proton



As far as I know, nobody including Nassim has come up with an answer to this problem

Wrong, Baby Steps.

He has (kind of) - more study needed. He refers to this issue in the following lecture, after the 1 hour point. This is probably the most useful one I have found if getting the maths is the objective.
Interestingly it is also the one that Bill introduces!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TivS3vw7EI

[onawah]

Nassim Haramein Latest Discoveries the Inner Workings of Our Holographic Fractal Universe UAMN TV
Published on Oct 8, 2018
"Physicist Nassim Haramein will be presenting the next step in the application of the holographic mass solution to the electron and the entire periodic table of elements thus describing all the material world in a Connected Universe. During this 90 minute presentation, get a look into Haramein’s latest discoveries on the inner workings of our holographic fractal universe, ourselves, and our collective evolution."
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[ExomatrixTV]

Profound "Planck Length Update" by Jimmy Blanchette:

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