Re: [HOAX] Vatican blackout - Pope arrested on 80 count indictment
There was a countrywide electricity blackout in Pakistan yesterday too..
Re: [HOAX] Vatican blackout - Pope arrested on 80 count indictment
Re: [HOAX] Vatican blackout - Pope arrested on 80 count indictment
We can do better than this. ... Pope arrested. " conservative beaver " the source.
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We can do better than this. ... Pope arrested. " conservative beaver " the source.
Can you post it? I could no longer view the source - I only had a piece of it on a phone text.
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ramus
We can do better than this. ... Pope arrested. " conservative beaver " the source.
Can you post it? I could no longer view the source - I only had a piece of it on a phone text.
https://www.conservativebeaver.com/2...ficking-fraud/
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VATICAN BLACKOUT: Pope arrested on 80 count indictment for Child Trafficking, Fraud
conservativebeaver_skphjv Posted on January 10, 2021
UPDATE: It appears that Pope Francis tweeted out this morning, however Conservative Beaver has confirmed Pope Francis has a social media team that schedules his posts, and this one was pre-planned. If you click on the tweet, you can see TweetDeck was used to schedule the post.
Pope Francis is still in Federal Custody in Italy, hence, he has not been seen on video. The FBI are enroute for the interrogation, according to sources.
VATICAN / ITALY – Pope Francis aka Jorge Mario Bergoglio was arrested Saturday in connection with an 80- count indictment of charges including possession of child pornography, human trafficking, incest, possession of drug paraphernalia and felony fraud.
The Italian National Prosecutor’s Office confirmed it ordered the arrests, and filed the charges.
Man arrested on drug charges now facing 63 additional charges including child porn, human trafficking in Limestone County
Military officers, Italian police, and their Sex Crimes Unit went to the pope’s home in the Vatican, they arrested him and several other high ranking officials, and placed them all under arrest without incident. People near the scene have reported hearing gunshots, but the Police would not confirm if they were the ones firing the weapons.
Pope Francis is currently being held in an unknown prison, being interrogated by Federal Agents working for the state of Italy and Interpol. The FBI is reportedly making arrangements to fly in and interrogate him once Interpol is done with him.
Giuseppe Governale, Italy’s chief anti-mafia prosecutor, was called in early into the investigation into Pope Francis and others within the Vatican. He said the group was “underestimated” and particularly dangerous because of its ability to proliferate across nations and infiltrate them.
“These individuals are truly the worst of the worst in society. I can promise you, we will not stop targeting human trafficking until we put a stop to this despicable trade in the Vatican and Italy, as well as surrounding countries around Europe. While I am a lead prosecutor in Italy, my department will strive to protect our citizens, especially those that need us most, our children”.
Giuseppe Governale
In order to make the arrest, police and military agents had to cut off the power in the Vatican, as well as dim the live cam. This was noticed by web-sleuths, who quickly became suspicious of what was happening in the Vatican.
Some people speculated the Pope could be the “first arrest.” And it appears they were right in their speculation. According to the Interpol agents, this is the “first out of many.”
The judge has imposed a EU wide publication ban. Fortunately, the ban doesn’t affect Canada or the US, and the Conservative Beaver received the exclusive scoop for this story via a confidential Italian contact.
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Greg Holloway
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It sounds a bit like what DJ (Dark Journalist) calls "Junk conspiracy".
Also the story about the arrest of the Italian president seems to make sense only for people unfamiliar with the Italian governmental system. The presidency has just a symbolic, ceremonial role in Italy so arresting the Italian president would be almost meaningless.
We won't go far if we just keep on spreading unverified rumors that turn out to be completly unfounded in the next news cycle....
Re: [HOAX] Vatican blackout - Pope arrested on 80 count indictment
As I understand, the Vatican is an independent city state (according to wikipedia "the Vatican has full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction"). Therefore to me it seems unlikely that Italian police or military units would make arrests in the Vatican, unless asked to do so by the Vatican itself. That the Vatican would have asked the Italian police or military to arrest it's head of state, the pope, seems strange.
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As I understand, the Vatican is an independent city state (according to wikipedia "the Vatican has full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction"). Therefore to me it seems unlikely that Italian police or military units would make arrests in the Vatican, unless asked to do so by the Vatican itself. That the Vatican would have asked the Italian police or military to arrest it's head of state, the pope, seems strange.
If the information is correct, it was stated that Interpol made the initial arrests.
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ramus/ ill go with the conservativebeaver over the liberal one running with corn pop
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Crossposting from the "other" thread ....
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This guy says there was no blackout at the Vatican ... (he lives a stones throw away)
https://thecatholictraveler.com/blac...t-the-vatican/
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This morning I woke up to hundreds of messages from people asking me if I was okay because they heard there was a massive blackout at the Vatican.
First, thanks everyone for your concern.
Second, there was no massive blackout at the Vatican.
I received so many links to videos and articles about how a huge sting was underway. There was a gunfight. The Vatican was surrounded by military and police. And the pope was arrested and being held in an Italian prison waiting for the FBI to arrive.
Now, I love a good conspiracy as much as everyone. You might remember when I posted the video of smoke rising over the Vatican. That video was shown in newscasts all over the world. It was actually a fire at a nearby tire shop. I’m in Snopes now thanks to that one.
But a gunfight at the Vatican and the pope being held by the FBI.. what?
I looked out my window (I can see the Vatican from my apartment) lights were on. No gunfights. No police. Cars were coming and going as usual on an early winter Sunday morning.
I can't find anything on India, except an article citing that India is blackout capital of the world as blackouts a regular occurrence.
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Daily mail report:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-blackout.html
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Power restored after Italy blackout
Italy has got its power fully back today after a nationwide blackout plunged millions into darkness.
As engineers worked to keep the network up after Sunday's outage, politicians said Italy had received a wake-up call to kick-start economic reforms including measures to boost power generation and reduce dependence on foreign power supplies.
The head of Italy's grid system said power had been fully restored across the country but targeted power cuts were planned to avoid overloading the network.
"We are planning precautionary cuts to reduce demand so that it meets the availability (of power)," Andrea Bollino, chairman of the national grid company GRTN, said today.
Storms
Authorities attributed the outage to a breakdown of electricity lines, some in heavy storms, from France and Switzerland - neighbours supplying Italy some 17 percent of its power. But they disagreed on who was to blame.
Almost all of Italy's 57 million people were affected by Sunday's blackout, a scale similar to last month's collapse in the US Northeast and Canada.
Four deaths were unofficially attributed to the cuts which struck at 3.20am (1.20am UK time) on Sunday.
GRTN blamed the blackout on problems in the Swiss and French networks. Italian Industry Minister Antonio Marzano called for an investigation.
Tree blamed
Swiss power firm ATEL said a tree, uprooted by strong winds, had knocked out a line carrying power to Italy over the Alps. But it said that alone could not block power to all of Italy, and blamed Italy's power grid for not reacting swiftly enough.
It was the fourth major Western blackout in two months, after cuts in North America, parts of London and Scandinavia.
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Iancorgi
It sounds a bit like what DJ (Dark Journalist) calls "Junk conspiracy".
Also the story about the arrest of the Italian president seems to make sense only for people unfamiliar with the Italian governmental system. The presidency has just a symbolic, ceremonial role in Italy so arresting the Italian president would be almost meaningless.
We won't go far if we just keep on spreading unverified rumors that turn out to be completly unfounded in the next news cycle....
I fully agree - there may have been an actual blackout (those happen occasionally). I think we should cautiously wait and watch, and try to substantiate before we come just another conduit for spreading nonsense.
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The Conservative Beaver report has an incredible amount of detail and conclusion for something that just happened.
A known tactic in spotting lies that investigators use is to watch for how much a suspect rambles on with extreme details ... it is sometimes telling.
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Iancorgi
It sounds a bit like what DJ (Dark Journalist) calls "Junk conspiracy".
Also the story about the arrest of the Italian president seems to make sense only for people unfamiliar with the Italian governmental system. The presidency has just a symbolic, ceremonial role in Italy so arresting the Italian president would be almost meaningless.
We won't go far if we just keep on spreading unverified rumors that turn out to be completly unfounded in the next news cycle....
I fully agree - there
may have been an actual blackout (those happen occasionally). I think we should cautiously wait and watch, and try to substantiate before we come just another conduit for spreading nonsense.
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The Conservative Beaver report has an incredible amount of detail and conclusion for something that just happened.
A known tactic in spotting lies that investigators use is to watch for how much a suspect rambles on with extreme details ... it is sometimes telling.
I have a feeling that conservativebeaver report is really old and that I discounted previously as I mentioned in another thread. I suspect there is an old link to it from this site somewhere.
Edit: can't find any evidence of previous post so memory might be wrong. I do know I discounted the site at one point rightly or wrongly.
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DeDukshyn
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Iancorgi
It sounds a bit like what DJ (Dark Journalist) calls "Junk conspiracy".
Also the story about the arrest of the Italian president seems to make sense only for people unfamiliar with the Italian governmental system. The presidency has just a symbolic, ceremonial role in Italy so arresting the Italian president would be almost meaningless.
We won't go far if we just keep on spreading unverified rumors that turn out to be completly unfounded in the next news cycle....
I fully agree - there
may have been an actual blackout (those happen occasionally). I think we should cautiously wait and watch, and try to substantiate before we come just another conduit for spreading nonsense.
EDIT:
The Conservative Beaver report has an incredible amount of detail and conclusion for something that just happened.
A known tactic in spotting lies that investigators use is to watch for how much a suspect rambles on with extreme details ... it is sometimes telling.
I have a feeling that conservativebeaver report is really old and that I discounted previously as I mentioned in another thread. I suspect there is an old link to it from this site somewhere.
You may be right ... I couldn't access the actual site, but I suspect that perhaps someone noted the blackout in Italy - googled it, found an old Conservative Beaver article made a false connection and then the rampant spreading of speculation started. We should verify if this isn't the case.
EDIT: Finally could open the page - article date is today. :confused:
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DeDukshyn
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Iancorgi
It sounds a bit like what DJ (Dark Journalist) calls "Junk conspiracy".
Also the story about the arrest of the Italian president seems to make sense only for people unfamiliar with the Italian governmental system. The presidency has just a symbolic, ceremonial role in Italy so arresting the Italian president would be almost meaningless.
We won't go far if we just keep on spreading unverified rumors that turn out to be completly unfounded in the next news cycle....
I fully agree - there
may have been an actual blackout (those happen occasionally). I think we should cautiously wait and watch, and try to substantiate before we come just another conduit for spreading nonsense.
EDIT:
The Conservative Beaver report has an incredible amount of detail and conclusion for something that just happened.
A known tactic in spotting lies that investigators use is to watch for how much a suspect rambles on with extreme details ... it is sometimes telling.
I have a feeling that conservativebeaver report is really old and that I discounted previously as I mentioned in another thread. I suspect there is an old link to it from this site somewhere.
Edit: can't find any evidence of previous post so memory might be wrong. I do know I discounted the site at one point rightly or wrongly.
Maybe this one from 2018?
https://mainerepublicemailreport.com...pe-and-murder/
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DeDukshyn
You may be right ... I couldn't access the actual site, but I suspect that someone noted the blackout in Italy - googled it, found an old Conservative Beaver article made a false connection and then the rampant spreading of speculation started. We should verify if this isn't the case.
EDIT: Finally could open the page - article date is today. :confused:
I suspect you are correct, because I thought I remembered blackout being part of the story I checked out previously. Will dig a little more.
Re: [HOAX] Vatican blackout - Pope arrested on 80 count indictment
At the very least someone is reaping a ton of money on ad revenue right now ... seems like traffic is so heavy the site is having problems ...
The Conservative Beaver seems to be a brand new site - only a few months old.
It is claimed they also claimed in an older article that Obama has been arrested on espionage - I do remember that report but the article seems to have been removed ... hmmm ....
Edit: (cited here): https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1393818
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