CE5 UFOs part of a Secret Plan to 'control' Millions? Yes or No?
- [My first ProjectAvalon Poll Test] CE5 UFOs part of a Secret Plan to 'control' Millions? Yes or No?
After 3 different personal successful CE5 encounters and all with other witnesses (and 2 without) I concluded all 5 were 100% positive ... but I was and still am 100% fearless due to my Near Death Experience when I was 5 years old ... lot of people have to face their own created demons first to be able to transform these obvious fear-based projected obstacles.
I started to study the CE5 Protocols in very early 1990s via "CSETI Project Starlight" long before Dr. Steven Greer became world-famous.
To me it seems like UFOs could be a mirror for your own level of consciousness all depends in how well do you know yourself.
Best example would be like if you are traumatized at young age with cats or dogs and because of that experience you become fearful to all cats or dogs ... animals can sense your fear and they become a mirror of that projected energy ... as fear makes you unpredictable & maybe even dangerous to them ... for you having had the trauma most likely do not see what you are doing is exactly why a dog or cat can sense danger coming from you! ... Thus acting totally different if you were neutral (fearless) ... Aliens could be 100 times more sensitive to any living being having fear.
So, again, how well do you know yourself?
Image you come from a Planet where deceptions are impossible and everything is transparent ... and that there is no need for (self)-deceptions. The moment that kind or level of Souls/Spirits are confronted with species who are raised with so many (self)-deceptions it is hard to "connect" with distorted Souls surrounded with a web of lies ... as so many do not really know who they really are ... trapped in so many layers of lies & (self)-deceptions.
If you are closer to who you really are ... "malevolent Aliens" may sense you are connected with "benevolent Aliens" thus protected some-how and they leave you alone as they may assume they will lose at the end ... But if you do not know who you really are and fearful on top of that ... you disconnected yourself form where you originally came from ... Thus is the chance higher you experience a mirror of that level of consonances.
Raising your own vibrations is KEY to grow out of your (fear based & self-imposed) mind-prison/thought-cage.
In my view/perspective, we are all Multi-dimensional Alien Souls having a limited human experience with (temporary) amnesia.
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It's the same as playing with a ouija board .. or meditating without protection
Using tools like: ouija board, pendulum, tarot cards, i-ching, oracle-cards, a coin "heads or tails" and so many other tools >>> all of it DEPENDS on your level of consciousness & your TRUE intent ...
if you assume by default you "need protection" you already INJECT that kind of thinking/reasoning to others too thus opening a whole different experience.
... and again you mean well as you want to protect others for falling in to a (assumed) "trap" ... but it happens to ANYONE having fearful assumptions to begin with ... (get the hint!).
And everybody can find a "echo chamber" amplifying all kinds of biased (fear based) thinking. Nothing new.
To project your assumptions on others hoping the other copies your assumptions, is to me a disservice and not helpful ... you want to deprive others to find their own unique way if they fall for your suggestions because to me that is what it is: "power of suggestion" like a hypnotist.
- quote: "It's (CE5) the same as playing with a ouija board" unquote
You did not say: "It's FOR SOME the same as playing with a ouija board" and even then you project your fears other others without knowing for sure.
Any (limited) fear-based projections on others based upon spiritual issues is different than fear-based projections about Vaccines, Agenda2030, The Great Reset, 5G, New World Order Agenda etc. etc.
We could start a separate thread on this topic alone. When is something fear-porn when is it justified and to what level ...
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...how well do you know yourself... what your consciousness level is and how you work on yourself or not.
Did you see the black helicopter thread John???
People meditating get visited! ... The reach of the controllers is much more than people imagine ... they are in the astral plane . They will see you if you raise your vibration , and particularly if you call out and invite them to come! ... This planet is controlled by the bad guys .. Others cannot get near , so if you call out for contact YOU WILL GET THEM!
You still do not get it ... you project your fears and assume you "help" others ... RIGHT? ... you don't ... how I see it, you only make it worse!
- And the beauty of all of this is:
everybody is responsible for their own quality of thinking and act accordingly
I lost my loved one (Iris) due to suicide who had General Anxiety Disorder and other Fears she could not control. I lived with a very very intelligent individual trapped in multiple projected fears for 5 years long ... She studied Psychology on University level so did my mother ... so am well aware how FEAR can paralyze (extremely limit) someones life.
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You still do not get it ... you project your fears and assume you "help" others ... RIGHT? ... you don't ... how I see it, you only make it worse!
I didn't start that black helicopter thread ... countless people have reported being visited while meditating .. were they all in fear???
I know what you are saying ... I don't have fear , because I avoid doing things which cause danger ...
You have to lock your door at night , but that doesn't mean you live in fear. (lol actually I never lock my door , but then I live very remote)
I was on Dutch National Radio discussing Black Unmarked Helicopters I saw in 1997 (24 years ago) with Beau van Erven Dorens and he asked me to call back the next day when he calls up Dutch Ministry of Defense (live) ... including dozens of other eyewitnesses confirming what I saw ... Not much later I showed/broadcasted a Black Unmarked Helicopters Documentary made by Linda Thompson on our Amsterdam TV called "Exposure TV" ... I filmed Black Unmarked Helicopters myself twice ... one was extremely up-close and very low to the ground ... We also had several articles about Black Unmarked Helicopters harassing whistler-blowers ...
- I also studied all Jim_Keith excellent work/research on Black Unmarked Helicopters over America.
But all of that ... is still just a tiny fraction of the bigger picture.
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OK ... so we are agreed the bad guys are aware of meditators , they can sense any outreach ... calling for a UFO to appear will get noticed by these same bad guys ..
Still it does NOT represent the bigger picture:
- @oz93666 ... How many of the thousands of people around the world who used the "CE5 Contact App" reported being "harassed by black (unmarked) helicopters"** ?!
Everything is just perspectives from a point of view YOU want to make or not.
- Everyone Can Download Free CE5 Contact App: (Apple / Google)
** answer is ZERO!
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How many of the thousands of people around the world who used the CE5 Contact App reported being "harassed by black unmarked helicopters" ?! ... Please answer me that question!
In my first post on this thread I said ....
"They could send a black helicopter , but won't , will send a UFO or Orb to get people excited and trick them into thinking there are some nice ET's out there ..."
So this is their game with these people who invite an ET experience ... they want to give such people a positive experience ...an indication there are friendly ET's out there who are listening ... they will tell their friends and soon millions will be doing this !!
This is about getting people used to the idea of ET's , just like the released videos of navy filming them ... They ARE planning to land soon ! And they will pretend to be friendly , offering to save us from global warming with free energy and advanced tech ... and the politicians will welcome them , and the Pope will baptize them ....lol ...
Pope Francis says he would baptise aliens: 'Who are we to ...https://www.independent.co.uk › World › Europe
May 14, 2557 BE — He said Catholicism was a church of “open doors”, and that it was up to Christians to accept the Holy Spirit however “unthinkable” and
Millions of people inviting them only makes this event more likely ...
So this is the big danger ... they are the same ET's who control our world now using the illuminati as managers .
So your agenda is to make everybody fearful having CE5 encounters? All based upon conjecture & having assumptions.
Maybe you don't realize you can be played (used as a tool) to promote (help spread) that kind of fear.
Really sad.
Because everything seems to push a false narrative to prevent people to have their own unique uplifting experiences.
They must be laughing at all of us right now.
Let everybody practice their own discernment skills not being pushed in a state of fear ... but step back and figure out what is really going on here and why.
So many can talk seemingly "sensible" but what are the true foundations of it? ... If it is just a bunch of conjecture, opinions & assumptions scaring others ...
Any generalization for or against is not doing justice to the full spectrum of the truth.
On top of that people are grownups that can make their own decisions without being spoon-fed "what to think".
quote: "They could send a black helicopter , but won't , will send a UFO or Orb to get people excited and trick them into thinking there are some nice ET's out there ..." unquote
... but all assumptions with absolutely NO EVIDENCE if it is really the case ... if so share some hard data we can really verify that (fear based) assumption!
cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
July 2021
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Now that life down under is normalising in the wake of COVID-19, we are looking to establish an experimental group in Canberra ACT to apply the principals and protocols of the CE5 initiative.
Attendees do not have to be believers, but do need to be commuted to regular CE5 sits to develop the practice to achieve successful observations. My experience, is too often CE5 attendees will want to stray from the protocols known to work, rather then a disciplined approach to deeper the experience, which leads to real phenomena.
The intent is to sit either Monthly or every 2nd week under the open sky near Canberra. Gatherings normally last a couple of hours to ensure observation, discussion and sharing of experiences (both inward experiences and observed phenomena).
Prerequisites
- Aged 21 years and above
- Have watched the CE5 movie
- Critical thinking
- Committed to experimentation sittings
- humble by nature
- kindness is a core value
- Basic understanding of energy systems (spiritual energy, chakras etc)
- Warm clothes
- fold up chair
- I recommend Ugg boots
- laser pointer
To register your interest please navigate to the contact page and send a message expressing your interest.
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Re: CE5 UFOs part of a Secret Plan to 'control' Millions? Yes or No?
Another excellent video John ...( the one from Kerry Cassidy ) .. She pretty much expressed my position on this ...She says Greer believes in what he's doing , but he is very dangerous .. The only ET's Kerry sys she knows about are the ones that eat humans , cattle mutilations etc ... These are the ones who control the world .. they will not allow benign ET's near this place , they hold it by force.
Encounters may not be perceived as negative ..These ET's are very advanced can induce felling's of love or euphoria in the experiencer ..
Their broad aim in these interactions will be to get humanity into an accepting frame of mind for an arrival ...
5,000 years ago these same ET's walked among us and treated us as slaves , passed themselves off as "Gods" .
Now they plan to return presenting themselves as our saviors ..their free energy and anti grav tech will get us off fossil fuels and save us from "global warming" .. but this changeover will be easier if we let them govern the world .. this is a big trap to enslave us completely ..
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XxrMmbxvfXs?t=301
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Hi John, excellent post. Due to the frail state of my [Contact Experiment] iPhone 5s battery I have to be brief.
The dichotomy of human evolution or diversity of is greater now than ever numbers considering.
While today’s top scientists mostly, entirely exclude the topic of “alien intervention hypothesis” from serious debate, some of us have got the key and eyes to see while bigger perspective of how our lives are a mirror of another, greater family of life in the Universe.
But how much can we grasp and process with meaning in one human lifetime - compared to the evolution of Universe - very little perhaps.
In my relation-Ship to ET civilisations possibly visiting us times to times I’ve realised we learn by steps , from them and about them though firstly they ask us to learn about ourselves and then only we are allowed to understand them from different perspectives.
Most of them are as complicated as we are, as individuals and civilisations , from deeper and longer look though they’re rarely as vocal about it.
There are groups out there to be cautious about as well. Even if the chances of malevolent Contact are extremely low, more frequently some people get abducted or contacted later who really did not want the experience.
So I would certainly put a disclaimer in front of every wannabe contactee to read in simple words: be aware what are you asking for🙏
Your mind and life are ultimately the most precious to you and what belongs to you, your mind to cultivate , your garden.
More later and thanks for patience
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Although this is a very interesting question, it's not very applicable. That's because the encounter does not depend on luck and stats, but on the individual's awareness and karma.
Other than that, my take is simple. If the UFO is metallic, it belongs to the cabal. If it's etheric or of another light form, its origin is of a higher dimension. As simple as that.
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I had contact more than once, and it scared the bejeezus out of me. I also have experienced a vast array of 'paranormal' events/phenomena, since childhood. I don't know if they are connected in any way, and would like to explore this further if anybody is interested.
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I had contact more than once, and it scared the bejeezus out of me. I also have experienced a vast array of 'paranormal' events/phenomena, since childhood. I don't know if they are connected in any way, and would like to explore this further if anybody is interested.
Looking back now, do you think having those fears were justified? ... or is the experience being in a state of fear more important than your true connection to these UFO(s).
(it is not a "trick question") ;)
cheers,
John
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Congrats on you first poll. I don't wish to voice a different opinion but let your poll and thread develop from an unbiased pov... best wishes John...
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Looking back now, do you think having those fears were justified? ... or is the experience being in a state of fear more important than your true connection to these UFO(s).
The issue is not whether the encounter itself was perceived as positive , more whether the ET's are malevolent and a game is being played ...
The ET's controlling Earth are very advanced , telepathic and psychic.. but morally depraved ...
Books have been written on the "Love Bite " phenomena . ET's can get the victim to fall in love with them , or fall for another human (for selective breeding experiments ) ..
The Love Bite: Alien Interference in Human Love Relationships
Lorgen, Eve Softcover
The Love Bite presents us with a woman's refreshing view of the UFO and alien abduction phenomena. Many people find themselves mysteriously thrown into obsessive relationships, but a few, otherwise reliable witnesses, claim to have been set-up in bonding dramas by alien beings. Eve Lorgen is determined to solve the mystery. While other abduction researchers politiely gloss over this highly controversial subject matter, Eve describes the Love Bite hypothesis with astounding clarity, compassion...
A few abductees have seen through the deception , but a great many fall for it and end up having many hybrid children and love their ET abductors/abusers !
In fact their are no accounts of positive Aliens interacting with us ... none come down and feed the starving millions in Africa ...
A great many accounts of reptilians ...They EAT CHILDREN ... ( see Revelations of a Mother Goddess by David Icke) torture them first to release adrenal chrome ( makes the meat more delicious) ... many accounts of reps in underground bases working with US military .... accounts of reps Working with Hitler trying to help him win with advanced tech help ...
Some researchers agree reps are bad , but the "Nordics" (Arcturians) are OK , even though these too were working with the NAZI's
Arcturians can pass as humans , are very beautiful and hyper intelligent.
Maria Orsic worked with the NAZIs ...... Valiant Thor worked with US military
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The author of the above book has swallowed the lie that they are here to help , even though they always work in secret with military helping them develop more powerful weapons , and have no "message of hope for mankind"..
They also make contact with the many "contactees" who have started movements , the Simon Parkes types ... always giving a positive message that they are here to help ..
Greer is a contactee , he says his first experience was age 18 , and he's continuing the work of softening people up for the coming arrival and grand deception.
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- There are many UFO-Cults worldwide indeed! ... That does not represent all who are involved contacting ET's even if you love to assume that is the case.
cheers,
John
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One serious question that comes to my mind at this point ( and would perhaps deserve its own thread here) is whether ETs do really want to be approached by us , at all.
I mean well. Compare the number of contact cases initiated by ETs ( from space) and their quality with contact experiences gained during many, various CE5 attempts ( not restricted to Dr Steven Greer group since people have tried and aspired for contact with ET civilisations for long time now, worldwide and through many cultures) and notice the principal difference (?).
Personally, just for honesty sake, none of my ET contacts were physically attracted or initiated by me ( that I am aware of). The only way they suggested they can be contacted was through “my mind” and that happens without any ceremony, ringing bells or shining lasers and the timing of response - if any- is entirely theirs ,
it may be days or much, much longer.
The clues to their intervention here are entirely on their side so far which is both baffling and disturbing fact for casual human mind but they’ve given us no open keys so far, no warranties or timetables of their arrivals and departures.
Without doubt, they’re keeping their space controls in their hands safely which should not be this surprising in the age of space flights and exploration.
The question always remains .. are any of the people promising “contact in the desert” that eventually does attract lights and apparitions legit ?
Yogis of old and other advanced spiritual people of this era were known to be able to emanate and manipulate plasma and the rest of elements in some cases and groups of psychic trainees are more so capable of attracting plasma bursts, spheres and creating apparitions ( such that can be occasionally photographed).
I’ve had two Japanese friends long ago, here in India who were very special ( a couple). In fact they were the best students of one senior lama with many otherworldly connections for years but that’s after they left their carrier in self styled Beetles group. No mistake they were almost perfect photocopy of John Lennon and Yoko Ono by the looks and lived and performed in Liverpool ( the UK) - in the 90s of last century to put it chronologically.
If I say they were special they meant lots to me. We did not talk a lot but on one occasion I mentioned my ET Contact openly with them at birthday party
and they almost fell off chair :)
Then they started talking one over the other about how and before they left the UK , ET contact ( UFO sightings ) happened during their concerts around Liverpool and some secret military personnel approached them and threatened them to initiate contact under supervision.
Which they did but were followed by secret service ever since.
Nobody knew about these events in their life and they both said they felt relived to confine to me but the discussion almost abruptly ended there and they asked me never to mention it to other people.
Again I would sum my point as : did ETs ever suggest we could contact them thus ?
If not , isn’t all the effort little childish ?
I know what you say “and what shall we do then”?
Negotiate with them , mentally could turn more people little whacky, that’s for sure or just wait and accept what we were given for granted ?
I know it’s not that way and it won’t let us sleep, at least some of us anyway.
Dr Greer is way more advanced in his endeavours, spiritual and strategical than most people are ready to accept quite yet , in my opinion , too advanced for this era we come to. Give it thousand years ( I say to myself as well ) and this mission will make full sense.
Of course I’ve not promised to come back but someone else will.
🙏😄🌟
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It’s true to me also to say that as children we had more freedom of imagination and little worries compared to whatever Life has thrown on us later so also,
ET Contact - through minds was much easier than now and without electronic intrusions of all kinds.
We did not watch that much TV and did not have computers. Some kids had play stations and rarely game consoles but not everyone had electronics.
I have read books all through my childhood and fairytales were read to me till I preferred to read myself. Then I spent hours with closed eyes pretending to sleep and not to attract parental attention. I thought I was quite good in it as my neurotic mum would get up to any noise immediately :)
Submerged to my own zone and universe that displayed number times more shapes and colours and music than those surrounding me I kept exploring various nooks and corners of the landscapes of our mental Universe and its dimensions, well in accordance with my ability as a child.
I’ve moved freely and rejected some “universes” against others. Played movies in vivid details and the themes settled to couple favourite genres,
one had to do with escaping the family and rejoining Native American tribe 😅
Times to times I could listen to strangely beautiful music coming through that I recognised immediately as “music of spheres”. No human instrument could replicate such a music, except for voice choir perhaps or a harp.
I tried to make sure I’m talking to myself all that time and could isolate from the rest of the world.
I did not consciously “seek contact” but as a young mind explorer I was obviously being contacted , though I’ve rarely seen them or heard from them .
Most of the time I felt they were teaching me something , imparting some knowledge or trying to entertain.
It was more like a frequency that was with me all the time but more surrounding certain small events.
They were around in 1986 if I remember that for example.
That was the year of “Chernobyl disaster” and my mum went to hospital and subsequently medical retirement , for hepatitis B infected herself in the lab by accident. That much about virus power.
I know and feel I can return to the same frequency whenever I can calm down completely and let go of worldly worries.
So I’m teaching myself to do just that..
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The way how to counterfeit their plans , I feel the need to focus on healing powers since the overall human situation and its health has been severely compromised ..
This is a rare Vedic chant I found. It’s in Sanskrit but wish everyone can play that. The interesting part of explanation of what the Mantras mean come at the end.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NA4d7OQVGSw
It says among else “We are born in dark mothers womb in the moment of Lightening. May all illnesses originating from shocks and lightenings be surpassed ..”
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this is a lot for something i thought everyone did at night.
i didn't need greer to start doing this when I was a kid in the 90s. i found out he ALSO did it a decade and a half later.
i think that's more common than you'd think. i kept it private. i wonder what others keep private?
don't need him or a protocol. a meditative state helps, but isn't necessary (it is a tool).
you don't need him.
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1. get calm (as you can)
2. humble yourself before the universe (as you do)
3. surrender to it all (its not up to you anyway)
4. let them know you are there (in your way)
if you aren't trying to call the universe down upon your head in moments of quiet contemplation/desperation/exhaustion then you ain't livin.
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this is a lot for something i thought everyone did at night.
i didn't need greer to start doing this when I was a kid in the 90s. i found out he ALSO did it a decade and a half later.
i think that's more common than you'd think. i kept it private. i wonder what others keep private?
don't need him or a protocol. a meditative state helps, but isn't necessary (it is a tool).
you don't need him.
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1. get calm (as you can)
2. humble yourself before the universe (as you do)
3. surrender to it all (its not up to you anyway)
4. let them know you are there (in your way)
if you aren't trying to call the universe down upon your head in moments of quiet contemplation/desperation/exhaustion then you ain't livin.
Agree 100% ... but CE5 protocols were made for practical reasons when you are doing it in a group session ... and it is not for everybody ... nobody claimed "it is the only way".
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
