Inventor Drives Car 3,000 Miles on Nothing But Water

Super smart researchers and generous, too!

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HHO (Oxyhydrogen) is a contentious technology that has both its proponents and detractors. Whether or not you believe it’s possible, two guys in Arizona have been working on a system for quite some time and claim to have a system capable of producing 55 liters of HHO per minute on 55 amps of power. They’ve proofed the concept in a Dodge pickup truck.

Unlike most other HHO proponents, however, these two are not commercializing their product for sale as a “kit” and have completely open sourced the whole shebang for anyone to copy and try. Once they’ve perfected the setup and done a lot more testing, they do plan to sell conversion kits for vehicles as well as begin concepting for larger uses such as power plants and industrial engines. All of their data and how-to/DIY information is freely available on their website at Future Energy Concepts, so if you want to see how this works and try it for yourself to see if it does work, everything you need to know is there.......

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Please read on at link:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/300/2...But_Water.html

Here's the link to their site:

http://www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/

This is really interesting. Thanks for the link, I'm really going to dig into this. Hydrogen power isn't a new concept, but the way they are doing it is...I think.

Thanks for the info! The beforeitsnews link is not displaying the article for some reason. Their site looks great, hope they get the detailed plans up soon.

I did a bit of research (not proper research, just internet searching) about fuelling cars on water (salted or plain). Many have done it and many early ones appear to have learnt it from Alexander Kraft who died in 1941
apparently there is something you can do to coal that produces a green matter that when added to water is runs the same as fossil fuel. apparently tastes like bitter almonds. Analysis showed a pure hydrocarbon and has no emmissions
1917 John Andrews
1916 Louis Enricht
? date: Guido Franch - he called it MOTA (atom backwards)

There was also (urban legend) a man in NZ, whose party trick was to grab a bucket of water out of the river to fill his car up on. He was paid over $1m way back in the 60's I think to shut up.

sorry dont have links but should be easy to look up if you are interested.
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Sorry folks about the link... I found it again, although the article has been completely reworded (go figure!), here:

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/296/9...But_Water.html

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By Grant Lawrence (Reporter)
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martedì 7 dicembre 2010 02:21:03

The vehicle in the video below supposedly went on a 3,000 mile road trip running only on water.

...Inventor Frederick W. Wood, and his associate, David Seigler, from Future Energy Concepts, Inc., give a video tour of the pickup truck that they claim to have converted to run on nothing but hydroxy gas, electrolyzed on-board, and on-demand, via a super-efficient electrolysis (from water) method they have developed. Their system allegedly produces 55 liters per minute on 55 amps. They also say the truck recently completed a road trip of more than 3000 miles, running on this set-up...(youtube)


Supposedly the inventor is willing to give away the basic design. He is doing it for the planet and so "our children can stop dying."

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Just in case they hide it again here is the link to the researchers' video on the same page:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Py8QY...layer_embedded

Just to add to this. There was a news clip about a car invented in Japan that ran on water over a year or two ago. It might have been backed by an American company.

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Posted by Alaois

Just to add to this. There was a news clip about a car invented in Japan that ran on water over a year or two ago. It might have been backed by an American company.

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I remember seeing it. The website of the inventor's company apparently had to "abandon" the project due to excessive production costs. Yeeaaa right.

Does anyone know what is presently going on with this technology? I checked out the sites and there seems to be a deafening quietness of news and information. Just wondering what happened and why the information flow has stopped?

Sadly the concept of not making money off their invention has led to the decline of the project. It now sits in the hands of people who did not create the concept. If you want further information about this try researching it yourself through a modern search based website. You'll find that there is more stunning information about mechanisms and propulsion then water technology.

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You'll find that there is more stunning information about mechanisms and propulsion then water technology.

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I have been doing a lot of research, but not finding much that is sustainable in 'survival' situations. Would love to get a few leads....:cool:

http://www.simplewaterfuel.com/?hop=homemadeen

The thread has been deleted... they may begin to cover up something...

There is alot of how to's on YouTube about this, I would recomend watching Stanley Myer's(Meier?) videos there, he's the man, or was the man, the govt/corporations out right killed him because his water cars were so good. BTW if you dont want to make them yourself you can buy kits on Ebay but do your homework first.

I knew someone in NZ that built a car motor that operated on gravitational force (I think that was the wording) just to see they could. Then they got death threats and people driving slowing passed the out of the way property.

I think the person disassembled the motor but it just proves that it is possible.

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... Jim Stone on the subject of water powered engines:

The car that runs on water

This topic has come up again, and as usual, the same garbage that obscures the truth about this is being told.

I'll once again put this straight. Water is basically inert. It does not matter how much "energy is stored in the bonds" between the hydrogen and oxygen because ZERO energy is stored in the bonds, Water is stable because the energy that made those bonds was released while making them. And electrolysis does not cut it as a viable way to put that energy back.

But there IS a way to get a car to run with water as a component of the process, and this is what the Pogue carburetor was about. It seems no one ever mentions the Pogue carburetor had a water inlet. And I figured this process out before I even heard of the pogue carburetor.

Here is how you make a car "run on water", (only, not really, it still runs on fuel) and there are MANY WAYS, not just one.

To make a car "run on water" you utilize the expansion characteristics of water. Once water hits 700 farenheit it is automatically at 3,000 PSI vapor pressure and THAT can drive a LOT.

Water expands enormously when transitioning from a liquid to a gas, and at 700F it has so much pressure it is outside the realm of what most people consider running in a gasoline engine.

Get water in a diesel and see what happens, a diesel will actually vaporize the water and put it to 3,000 PSI and then BOOM, with far less than needed to hydrolock. So you set up your gasoline engine to take advantage of this.

There are MANY WAYS to do it.

How about insulating your exhaust manifold so it is always at 700F or more, and while burning your gas in the engine, you pre-heat water with it and then have a separate set of injectors inject a little water that wants to go to 3,000 PSI instantly when released?

How much boost could that possibly give you?

Enough to crush the piston rods if you were not careful, but today we have computers they did not have in the 1800's so we can utilize the higher pressures where water is most efficient. They could not do that back then.

The pogue carburetor did something a little different - instead of preheating water it just separately atomized it and had it go into the cylinder along with the fuel, where it provided additional expansion when the explosion happened. That worked, it gave amazing fuel economy and that is why allied tanks went as well as they did. I'm sure some fool is going to rip this and post "the pogue carburetor" that does not do this, and I have one comment for those types: MAKE IT WORK THEN.

I am not going to go over 1,000 ways to do this right, there are MULTIPLE WAYS, I'll just say this:

Gas engines in automobiles take about 15 percent of the energy in gasoline and convert that to usable power, while the exhaust system and radiator throw away 85 percent. If you get rid of the radiator, if you get rid of the entire cooling system plus use the exhaust for pre-heating and then instead internally cool the engine with properly regulated water you could probably at least get an engine up to about 90 percent efficient.

But TPTB don't want that, and here's why: #1. Let's say you have a piston powered airplane that gets 30 mpg (and those exist). It has a range of 600 miles with the basic 20 gallon tank. All of a sudden you do a design change and have condensors in the exhaust system to re-capture and re-use water, and you run ONE gallon of water in a continuous cycle, while now getting 180 MPG with an engine that is now 6 times as efficient - now your little prop job with a range of 600 miles can go 3,600 miles and bomb the hell out of the bad guys from let's say Zimbabwe on a budget of practically $0.

WAR IS EXPENSIVE. FIGHTING EVIL IS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE EVIL PROTECTED ITSELF BY BURYING GREAT TECHNOLOGIES LITTLE GUYS COULD USE TO STOP THE EVIL. THEY DO NOT WANT WAR TO BE CHEAP, SO THEY BURY ALL TECHNOLOGIES THAT COULD MAKE WAR CHEAP. THEN THEY JUST STEAL THE BILLIONS THEY NEED TO WAGE WAR THE EXPENSIVE WAY VIA TAXES.

A stealth piston powered prop job with totally self contained cooling would be FAR EASIER, and I mean 1,000+X as easy to design and build than a stealth jet, so what if you go slower. And obviously, for greater range you start out with a propeller plane that has a greater range. You'd match a 180 million dollar stealth jet for $50,000 no sweat and you would not even need an aircraft carrier and thousands of troops to support it, you'd simply take off, fly to your tyrant 5,000 miles away, turn around and fly home for the cost of ONE normal fill up in a ****ty plane.

The ultimate would be a solid copper block engine with only oil channels, a high temp oil, a copper head, run it at about 450F and use the thermal stability copper would provide to keep it running perfectly controlled and perfectly smoothly. I am not going into the details on this because they are vast as to why copper would be the best for this, (with steel sleeves for the pistons and lightweight alloy pistons of course) - the high temperatures would be handled by simply having a simpler system and using different materials for the seals. No radiator, and if there was an overheat you'd just start injecting water only and when above 450 degrees, water alone would run it with steam expansion alone no, that's not a conventional steam engine!

And there is why we don't have "water powered engines - a bad label not 100 percent accurate) plus how to do it.

As a side note, you need to ceramic coat the tops of the pistons, the cylinder walls, the head and the valves because water at 700F at that concentration will eat the metal. For a quick start on this idea, rip apart a $99 predator engine, ceramic coat all parts that face the combustion chamber, and then use a super high capacity fountain fogger to atomize the water and have the carburetor suck that in straight with no air filter. Turn the fountain fogger on AFTER the engine is good and hot. You need a REAL fountain fogger, not one for a bowl on the table. It would have to be able to atomize as much water as gas you'd normally use, water that would get re-claimed by a condensor in the exhaust system. That type of high capacity piezoelectric water fogger costs more than a penny.

There is an extremely high chance this absolutely would work, it could be that simple, run the engine lean. I have considered setting this up but never got around to it. And the governor will probably not work once you do this, you need to have the engine loaded to prevent runaway.

Lawn mower engines are already partially ideal for this process, no computer to worry about (if you run straight fog rather than injection) and the solid head and block run hot and would balance the process a lot better than a car engine. If you get it to work, block the fan so there's no air cooling.

The best solution would be a fully computer controlled solid block engine with direct injection, but there's nothing even approximate to that in existence now.

And don't even bother with dreaming about "the water only engine", that's a hoax intended to derail critical thought. It can't work, that's why water is used to put out fires. the "water engine" does not burn water, it instead uses the expansion characteristics of water to make the combustion of FUEL drive a piston lot more efficiently.

Quote - "This short film presents Mr. Bate, an inventor who discovers a substitute for gasoline in barnyard manure. Even though he fits the classic mold of single-minded know-how and practical dreamer, his discovery is tried and tested. He demonstrates how his home-made digester does turn manure into potent methane gas that powers his auto. And for good measure, he demonstrates his latest sustainable invention -- a bicycle powered by the bumps on the road."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EISUKNgMNmM

Am wondering if anyone happened to have archived the site info and or the vid associated with the HHO fuel system building.

Thanx in advance

Hi Friends,

A treasure trove of good info here. Here is the circuit/schematic diagram.

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Basically the water is pumped into the pressure vessel when the internal float switch is closed. The PWM is used to produce and electrical pulse which is tuned to the resonant frequency of the inner electrodes. This vibrates the water trapped between the outer and inner tubes. The outer tube is charged positive and is tuned exactly 180 degrees out of phase with the inner tube. The vibration wave is propelled by the positive charge towards the outer tubes just to be attenuated by the outer tube tuning.

The excited water molecules 2(H2O) now only require a fraction of the amperage to be converted into (2H2 + O2). Also experimentation of harmonic frequencies have produced interesting results, sometimes exceeding HHO production of the tubes at resonance. The vessel has a large inner and outer tube which is tuned 4 octaves lower than the outer tubes and has a clearance between the tubes of only 1mm. This tube produces the most heat and HHO. The smaller outer tubes have a 2mm clearance and run cooler and take less amperage and are mounted around the large tube assembly. The epoxy used to seal the bottom inside of the vessel and bottom of the electrical enclosure is laced with ferrous oxide dust 10% by weight which creates an capacitor which smoothes out the square wave pattern to a sine wave pattern which helps the transition between off and on for the PWM. Experimentation with an air coil after the mosfet drivers and before the load also resulted in an increase of efficiency.

The HHO is then pressurized to 60 PSI within the vessel, and regulated by the pressure switch which cycles the PWM as needed and the under the hood pressure regulator and dryer assembly. The HHO then travels through a check valve to an injection tee. The fuel line from the rail originally is connected to the tee before a metering valve and spring loaded valve. When accelerating hard, towing, or driving up extended grades the HHO production is not sufficient to power the vehicle alone, so when the HHO pressure dips below 55 PSI the spring loaded valve opens to let a small amount of stratified HC into the injection rail. Being stratified by the large flow of HHO allows a very small amount of HC to be burnt almost 100% and fill in for the HHO vessel until the load demand ends, and the vessel regains over 55PSI of pressure. Also if you have an HHO system fault, this allows you to continue driving until you can repair it.

Cheers,
Szymon

Splitting water into its constituents to power an engine is an old idea. It fails because of the physics law "you can't get more out of a system that you input". Maybe there is a caveat though, as Szymon alluded to. And that is feeding an alternating current into water at the same frequency that the water naturally resonates at. Thus you are using its inherent energy to increase the efficiency of breaking those hydrogen/oxygen bonds.

As an analogy, think of pushing someone on a swing, pushing in phase to increase the swing takes little effort. Pushing out of phase or pulling directly (as with using DC electrolysis) takes much greater effort.

And you only have to break one of the two bonds.

Then you get Brown's gas, HO and oxygen, O. The HO burns using O as fuel. Exhaust - water.

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