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Yes, and it yes, it's over, lay down and go to sleep, it's over for your time of fakery, we are done with it. Sleep tight
I could show you things you don't want to see, and neither i want to show you, speculation when the entire thing has been around for the most part of 8 years is not suitable to our current time understanding of reality.
Please look into it. And i you want, i will share the information the UN had since 2015 and that they chose to ignore. It's very graphic so i be aware of that, there's images of kids blown up and people burned and such and such. So i would suggest to not look at it at all.
But it did happen, it's not like you can kill 13,000+ thousand people without leaving any evidence. It's more like the UN decided to no look into the evidence because they are unable to be "independent" anymore
I'm very sorry but this is a thing that has already happened, years ago. You just did not knew about it at the timeQuote:
So if the conflict expands it could turn Ukraine to battlefield
This is how it feels
One day, you get dinner with your friends all sitting there in the floor and joking about dumb things, bullying each other and stuff
The next day in the morning, some of them are not back. We all know what happened to them. They're gone
But we pretend to still hope they will be back, and some of the younger kids do cry but also have to make themselves strong because they have to
We all feel like stupid idiots sitting there pretending the persons missing did not exist because we know they died through the night and we have to enforce our will and not let this take us down so we can fight tomorrow
That's how war is
So excuse me when i say that i know better than most people, but i do know better.
I'm sorry our life experiences are so different, i also wanted a nice life but i did not had it. Right now i know what the people there are going through because i went through the same already, as a kid. So yeah, i don't have much more to say. very sorry about this
There were way too many years that this was asked from the Donbass region, it went unheard. So unheard that the "president of Ukraine" said they would take it back by force.Quote:
Though I sincerely hope that it can be stopped from expanding and solved immediately by peaceful negotiations and insistence to withdraw Russian troops from the territory immediately.
It doesn't matter for them what the people of Donbass wants, there is no humanity at all in their treatment.
Please look more into this, it's just a crime against humanity, and a war crime as well. You are just not been told the facts
Here are the facts as I understand them.
Russia did indeed invade Ukraine from many directions simultaneously, that is obviously an act of war.
The build-up along the border was obviously very real and not fake as some have previously suggested.
Ukraine did not commit any act of war.
The Minsk accord was not agreed to by Ukraine.
The Donbass region (which is Ukraine territory) has been in civil war for 14 years or so. This appears to be one of the reasons Putin used to justify the invasion.
The photos, videos and news reports are unreliable because they can be faked and in some cases have proven to be sourced from past conflicts.
Commentary and questions:
I am not convinced the people in Donbass want to become part of, or controlled by, Russia.
What is Putin's larger objective? Here are a few possibilities..
- Demonstrate NATO & US impotence
- Frighten former USSR states to make it easier to bring them back under Russian control
- Take all of Ukraine
- Return everything back to Ukraine except for the land mass that includes Donbass and south to connect Crimea
I also wonder what China will do. This is exactly the time for them to make a move.
Finally, without a trustworthy press/news media, we wont know anything other than propaganda. This will wake up more people to the fact that much of what is reported in the MSM is fake and that will lead people to ask the question why.
Discussions about what US or NATO did or did not do are red herrings (irrelevant) and are designed to deflect the argument away from the fact that Putin invaded a sovereign country.
No wonder the plandemic is suddenly over. Throw your masks away, it's time for war now. And frankly I'm a bit worried how this is going to turn out. Both sides seem to be pushing this forward for whatever reasons (great reset maybe?) and all the fake news and old footage is too confusing.
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Any good news we don't already knew?
The only valuable thing i found i this was
Even then you failed to say "why"
Do you know the "Why" game? want to play it?
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Thought the same, how odd they all kind of "agree" while disagreeing? It's like they knew beforehand, how 'odd' isn't it?
Perhaps this is the actual trigger for the big reset after all
Malisa, that was dismissive and offensive, you are better than that.
It seems you don't agree with any of these facts:
Russia did indeed invade Ukraine from many directions simultaneously, that is obviously an act of war.What is your agenda?
The build-up along the border was obviously very real and not fake as some have previously suggested.
Ukraine did not commit any act of war.
The Minsk accord was not agreed to by Ukraine.
The Donbass region (which is Ukraine territory) has been in civil war for 14 years or so. This appears to be one of the reasons Putin used to justify the invasion.
The photos, videos and news reports are unreliable because they can be faked and in some cases have proven to be sourced from past conflicts.
This is a game for you, isn't it?
I agree, this is a very real possibility...
I don't have a game, but at this time, seeing as you had plenty of years to figure out the real purpose of what is happening in Ukraine and you come post this as if it was something that "just happened yesterday" i have to truly wonder. Please don't turn things around this way
I have been very clear and transparent about myself, yet you skip about all of it?
It's actually a game for you, pretending you don't know the actual game the US is playing, and has been playing all along for decades now
That's why i asked that, to bring you up to the front. So do you know the "why game"? Because if you don't then you are being played, but if you do, then you are a player on it, see?
I don't ask stupid questions
You guys are really annoying with the personal attacks and the sassy rethoric.
Anyways.
I've been watching the msm since 4am when I somehow woke up middle of the night for the news.
I heard Putin, Borrell, Macron, Johnson, the german leader, Von der Leyen (or however is written) and the NATO spokesperson talk. And taking their words, and the general talk on MSM.... Europe is going to war at some point. Either Putin will go over Ukraine (because of sanctions or whatever) or Europe will go to Ukraine.
Remind that France pulled out of Mali.
None seem to have a limit on their actions, and the talk is about military Capabilities and, literally, an attack on "European soil". They are already marketing the great Spanish Leopard tanks and glorious army helping NATO.
The talk of everyone is on leaders asuming responsibility themselves (about going to/causing war?) and how Putin will be "held accountable". They are building this Hitler image around Putin.
This evening/tomorrow morning there will be the official assessments on the matters. I'll go to the supermarket before that
:P Rotten hell with you :P lol
That's why you get from watching that garbageQuote:
I've been watching the msm since 4am when I somehow woke up middle of the night for the news.
Let's go sleep now, we should not be affected by those idiots in general, so let's go sleep for a bit, it will be over soon :PQuote:
I heard Putin, Borrell, Macron, Johnson, the german leader, Von der Leyen (or however is written) and the NATO spokesperson talk. And taking their words, and the general talk on MSM.... Europe is going to war at some point. Either Putin will go over Ukraine (because of sanctions or whatever) or Europe will go to Ukraine.
Remind that France pulled out of Mali.
None seem to have a limit on their actions, and the talk is about military Capabilities and, literally, an attack on "European soil". They are already marketing the great Spanish Leopard tanks and glorious army helping NATO.
The talk of everyone is on leaders asuming responsibility themselves (about going to/causing war?) and how Putin will be "held accountable". They are building this Hitler image around Putin.
Don't get me wrong, I don't watch msm, EVER. And as I said posts before I took this whole matter rather lightly.
My claims are made after watching msm with deconstructing purposes, and try to read on what they want the people to believe. If you think I buy on any of either's side narrative, youre wrong.
I don't think anything about anything, i know the realitity of what's going on there. Why would i care about media stupidity? When i have been there?
Think about that, you are looking at this the wrong way
I.Don't.Care.About.Media.In.Any.Possible.Way
I know better, i did not look at it from far away or was paid to lie
It does look like people are unable to realise that i was there, and plenty other kids were, no matter what. You fail to understand that what is happening right now was already a reality back in 2013 and until 2015 or so, but it's reality
You have not seen the things i've seen, or what we saw in general, it's just like a "far away thing" for you guys. You just don't get it
I'm so frustrated by this lack of understanding of reality
Jesus F. It does seem that no one around is able to truly grasp this. Hope it never reaches your country or city, but if it does, hope also you won't be crying about it. FFS
I don't think anything about anything. I know the reality of whats going on here, in my house. And that reality is TV halfway promoting war, so that I'm sharing. You can believe it as part of your genuine reality, take it into account, or completely dump it.
For all I know, or care, you could be a virgin 40 year old man with adventurous issues from North Grafton Massachussets. And Ukraine couldn't even exist as a country, nor Its people, nor Putin, nor the whole entire Avalon comunity.
Hi Sr,
I supposed i can say now, that all assumptions are off
Ukraine is done for
As of right now:
- Air force has deflected or given up
- The army is resigning their positions and surrendering to Russian army
- The navy has been "terminated"
- The radar systems are destroyed entirely
- All the drones are grounded, there is no personal able to drive them anymore
This took around 2 hours tops across the entire country
I supposed this says all about the current status of Ukraine
Later today we will see another page, or step, or side of the war, but it won't be what most people expect. Let's wait and see
There is such thing as bluffing in the great scope of international matters. The US gave to the Ukraine government the wrong assumption that they would be protected and the false promise they would be part of NATO. Things developed very quickly and now all those promises are just air. It already happened, so now NATO will have to figure out how to proceed from here, while trying to not look bad in the eyes of the entire planet, because of those false promises they have been exposed around
It's the usual problem "the boy that cried wolf too many times"
I bet realising Ukraine fell without any effort in less than 2 hours is now making all the countries around Europe double check their posibilities if they keep lying and supporting the US on this false "freedom" crusade
Let's see how fast they act, today and tomorrow. And if they are willing to sacrifice themselves for the US. This is the real thing, not like the game the US thought they were playing, where everything ends in a game of diplomacy words.
Even if all the above is practically true, kindly realise that Ukraine is sovereign nation who won’t submit their legacy and government overnight and under threat of power.
I don’t see this would happen any soon and this being subversive and technological war of 21st century , they will fight back by all and any means.
They’re on their last leg , for sure. Now that they’ve been shot to it, they will fight to the last man.
Pray everyone stopped fighting right now or we all may also end up in another staged nuclear disaster.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtube.com/watch?v=YuRp2zoKd2s
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Here our prime minister and president have already sided with US. Didn't take long so that's why I'm worried this will escalate very very quickly. It really is strange they didn't fight back so does this mean that the NATO-countries are already planning something with Ukraine?
Sweden and Finland (which is a big Russian neighbor) are very likely joining NATO tomorrow on an extraordinary event.
https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000008639711.html
It says Finland and Sweden have been invited to a virtual NATO-meeting tomorrow and try to figure out what to do. Not really sure it's going to lead both of us end up as NATO-country. That Jens Stoltenberg freaks me out though. He says "Europe's new normal is a start of a war." Translated almost literally. :eek: Of course, maybe it's not exactly quoted correctly because IS is known here to be very sensational and ****ty publication.
All scripted, choreographed and under orders, just like the lockstep political responses almost in unison re covid and the vaxx, all over the world,
As evidence, watch to see what Justin Trudeau says (and has already said), and also Tony Blair. (Many others too, of course.)
As a provisional opinion, I'd guess that Putin is no part of this. He's just doing his own Russian strongman nationalist thing. But the situation may very likely be quickly taken advantage of, re the 'Great Reset' — just as covid was, lab leak accidental or not.
The next thing may be a collapse of stock markets worldwide... not manipulated per se, but maybe inevitable as all the major investors start taking their profits as fast as they can. It's a classic bubble-bursting event.
I would argue that what the US/NATO did or did not do, is highly relevant. Without the NATO's expansion towards the Russian border, the situation certainly would be different. Even if one would name this expansion as irrelevant, the US/NATO could have easily avoided the actual scenario by just giving Russia the guarantee that the Ukraine would not be accepted into the NATO. So mentioning that whatever led up to the actual situation is irrelevant, is in my opinion a wrong statement and wrong conclusion.
Just a little more on that thought. Putin is smart enough to know all this, of course, but I'd be pretty sure that he's playing his own game. He'll know that this will result in huge damage to the US and its economy (and that of other countries too, probably in Europe), and he'll not mind that one bit.
He's playing a strong hand of poker and will be betting that Russia will be able to ride all this out and emerge in a very strong global position. If the globalists are leveraging this to take down America just a little faster, that's just fine with him.
Wouldn't a bubble bursting event like that, publicly blamed to the Russian agression, lead to war at some point? It would be either war, or the complete loss of credibility for European countries. (if they had any left)
Holding this whole situation on the edge doesn't seem doable to me, at least not on the long term.
Take it with a grain of salt because it just came out.
Turkish cargo ship reportedly hit on the black sea. Turkey is NATO.
By now we all know Putin is not stupid. And also he might not be part of the global elite. He's not part of the WEF, is he? That's where this all warmongering is probably coming and now they're desperate to get one started because Covid didn't work as well as they wanted. They just don't seem to care at all as long as half of the population of the world is dead. Wouldn't it be nice if there was the WW3, the greatest war of all time, which they seem to want, and none of us would fight it?
Yes, the amount of damage to Russian economy has already been calculated, we can survive almost 20 years on our own, with reserves and current deals. By that time the China pipeline will be fully working and others as well, it matters little what the NordStream 2 pipeline does or even exists by then.
Even Europe has blocked the US sanctions on existing Gas deals, so we just remain going as we were 2 weeks ago, no change at all.
Sanctions are useless because none of them affect existing deals which is good income. :)
Always 3 steps ahead, so annoying! :PQuote:
He's playing a strong hand of poker and will be betting that Russia will be able to ride all this out and emerge in a very strong global position. If the globalists are leveraging this to take down America just a little faster, that's just fine with him.
Russia military taking over Ukrainian military bases just few minutes ago, no resistance, nothing but delivering their weapons and giving up
Possible war crime against Ukrainian people by the Ukrainian army
thread about US Biolabs facilities in Ukraine..
later - not sure why tweets stopped being inserted later?
**** - the twitter account was just suspended!
Huge documentation of recent history of biolabs in Ukraine!
one of the tweets included this image
https://media.gab.com/system/media_a...13246d51e.jpeg
https://twitter.com/warclandestine/s...672857602?s=21
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/s...-TmVADtPtBs5jg
https://t.me/s/drawandstrikechannel
some of the above thread, now nuked, is documented at link above, but I can't copy it in easily...
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Brian Cates - Political Columnist ⭐️⭐️⭐️
The US bioweapon research industry is suppose to be use for 'defense only', of course. Studying bioweapons to learn how to prepare and defend against them. But in the case of COVID, Fauci and Co. repurposed US funding to gain of function research on bat coronaviruses that then either escaped from a lab in China or was deliberately released. If you think COVID-19 was deliberately released from the Wuhan lab, and the same Fauci/Daszak/WEF crew that run our viral research labs across the world are also running bioweapons labs in Ukraine, if I were Putin I'd have been warning them get that **** off my frontier also.
Looks like the damage has been done now and I’ve almost expected something in that category:
Nuclear waste storage destroyed in Chernobyl
In attempt for takeover of Chernobyl nuclear power plant that has suffered tragic accident in 1986.., the nuclear waste storage was “accidentally” destroyed ,
Ukrainian nuclear advisor warns of radioactive cloud dispersal over neighbouring g countries and probably most of EU.
For your own safety sake and if something really odd happens any night soon,
I suggest ..stop watching the news
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Quite right on the opposite : but I think that we all are feeling even little more upset about the situation in Europe than usually and mixing plums and apples does not help.
Not even the UN secretary would care to compare the situation between Taiwan , Hongkong and Ukraine as legally adequate.
Why offending as many parties at once as possible ?
So self convinced of your power ?
Don’t get angry on us Masha. I’ve seen young kids, people fighting in consignment in all kinds of wars who had to but once they’ve got out they’re out. They’ve suffered but hate no one. We all have suffered for many reasons and I see no reason for the history to be repeating itself in rounds.
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Hi Malisa,
I just wanted to personally thank you for all the info you have provided. I have learned not to trust anything I hear from MSM and politicians, so any info from "regular people" is much appreciated.
I also, in a way, completely understand where you're coming from with your stance and opinions, because as you can see from my profile info, I'm from Serbia.
Serbia is a country that was unjustly bombed by US/NATO, where far more civilians and civilian targets were destroyed than military ones. They have also taken a part of our land (Kosovo) and given it to Albanian terrorists who have, and stil are, killing our people and doing much worse things.
Anyway, thanks for info, and all the best.
As Serbians like to say:
Rusi i Srbi, braća zauvek.
Russia has been nbr1 in buying up gold for years (not sure about the last couple), it basically means the Ruble is backed by Gold iso Oil, this will serve the Russians quite well, especially with those weak arse sanctions coming. Russia learned a huge lesson the past 30 years and has been preparing. Another thing, you make an agreement with a Russian, you better keep it, they will.
This always works for me. Don't read news, don't watch news, don't read any social media, only be with loved ones and have a couple of beers, try to relax. It's been over 2 years since this worldwide MK-ULTRA experiment began with Covid-threat and now it's WW3-threat. They do need people to be afraid all the time. Otherwise can't push any restrictions or new rules. It's been hell of a ride. But yet we're still alive to see the next day. :)
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Quite right on the opposite : but I think that we all are feeling even little more upset about the situation in Europe than usually and mixing plums and apples does not help.
He quite said a few things he wasn't supposed to say, he's not better than any person on the street as far as i can see him, He lies about things and pretends not to know the reality of what's truly going on in Donbass for 8 years. That's not a respectable person, in my eyes, because of his position and access to information.Quote:
Not even the UN secretary would care to compare the situation between Taiwan , Hongkong and Ukraine as legally adequate.
Si hablamos de matar mis palabras matan. I speak up and can't be running around beating the bushes, i'm truly sorry, the way i had to grow up made me a very straight and sometimes very hard person to deal with, but it's most times out of my own control. You don't survive by being nice with words out there, i'ts a very slow and hard road once you want to change it, you would have to be there to understand why it's required to survive another day. But i never try to insult or harm anyone by speaking up, it's needed to raise awareness and force people to pay attention immediately, and not much moreQuote:
Why offending as many parties at once as possible ?
Not at all, i don't have any, i used to, but i don't at all. Arrogance such as that one is more like the one we would see from the American government. I'm just hard but it does affect people some times in this wayQuote:
So self convinced of your power ?
Well as you can see we are not still out, there's a very big difference, i have to live day by day with attacks in several ways that keep me going on the defensive with everything i say onlineQuote:
Don’t get angry on us Masha. I’ve seen young kids, people fighting in consignment in all kinds of wars who had to but once they’ve got out they’re out. They’ve suffered but hate no one. We all have suffered for many reasons and I see no reason for the history to be repeating itself in rounds.
Even when i joined Avalon, just a few weeks after i got an attempt on my life, someone dropped house made explosives on the door of the building i was living in, after kicking the door open, one exploded and one failed, but a kid went to see what had happened and he could have died there if the second bomb had exploded. It was a very bad situation, that was around 2 years ago. It never ends for people like me. It's not a thing of the past see?
I don't repeat history, but i do get tired when i see people repeating lines they do not understand and then when explained how they are wrong, even with evidence, they try to go through the tangent and keep going along without any acceptance that they may have misjudged the situation entirely because they don't know the full details.
You can always say that we can beat around the bushes for 10 more years until it doesn't matter anymore. But we could also stop on our tracks, inspect the full details of the current situation and put a stop on it right now, not 20 years from now in a very slow process that won't matter anymore since we may not even be alive by then
I want to see something happening in my life time, not wait for who knows how many years. That's why i get involved in the current affair in a very direct form instead of just giving leads to what i may or may not think
I'm not sure if i am explaining myself in a good way here. I'm sorry if i'm not
In the position i am, i can't just say "someone will figure it out". It's people like me who is "someone that will figure it out"
"Who if not us" is the key sentence here. Because we can't depend on anyone else to do this for us
So it's not "power", it's a privilege to be able to serve, and my will that is mistaken for some kind of self entitlement or power lust. Lots of my friends lost their lives out there, and they spoke as strong or more than me, it was not a lust for power or any kind of power trip, it was because if you don't speak up strong, people will die, not "may" but it is certain they will die. This is far removed from you, but it's not for me, we are watching in real time and i have never lied about how i am, i'm just exactly the same as they are. I can't just switch to not be me, This is hard
When i joined the Nashi and went there, i did not think about just wishing them the best, i knew i was in for a real fight and that i could die and we all did. We knew some of us would not make it back. It's not about wishing the best or anything like that, you know that you may and most likely will die, but you still go
Because you can't help yourself when you look at little kids that just got orphaned by a crazy imbecile with a military uniform and Nazi patches who laughs at the misery of the kids. Or the lies you see on tv or anywhere else about what truly goes on.
No amount of tender spiritual wishes will fix that. You have to unfortunately go a shoot them down, or they will keep raping and killing and torturing and then lying all about it, and people will accept their lies because the voices of the victims have been silenced
That's why i joined and if i were able to i would do it again, unfortunately i can't anymore. But if i could, i would be there just now
One of the hardest thing in life is being 17 and be watching over kids as young as 13 and listen to them crying at night trying to hide the crying, so that they won't be bullied for being weak, when they saw they parents in pieces due to mortar shells thrown from the Ukrainian side at the afternoon
No one is prepared for that, and then you cry too in silence and have to make yourself strong as a rock because now you are their parent figure, while you are basically equally weak
That's just some part of it, the other one is having to speak to them after one of their friends is just gone. How do you even start? So you become a rock or otherwise won't be able to lead or survive
And they won't take anything but the truth but also will break apart in your hands like a little piece of ice, so is not easy to do that. No song or nice words will fix them up, it's a life long job from then on
That's why we are the way we are, it's hard, is not easy to express at all, ever