Is this stupidity or something WAY more sinister? 5 more doctors died in Italy and the waves in NYC are starting to crash and HCWs told NOT to use PPE ???
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Is this stupidity or something WAY more sinister? 5 more doctors died in Italy and the waves in NYC are starting to crash and HCWs told NOT to use PPE ???
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Posted by Delight
So true! I think many people just do not realize how bad it is when you are to the point of requiring a ventilator, for whatever purpose.Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanThanks for your post, also. :sun:Quote:
Posted by Caliban
I'm just saying the mechanics of testing are no longer relevant if you (or any friends or relatives) are fighting for their life on a respirator.
A ventilator is considered Life Support, like when you hear the news that someone is on "life support", that is what it usually means.
Many things can affect the lungs to reach that point, but does it matter what exactly caused it? Flu, chemicals, corona, pneumonia, injury, etc. The big point is, we need to do everything possible to avoid the need for a ventilator. Period.
Ventilators themselves can CAUSE injury. They are working real hard on getting that right, but there are many cases of ARDS and pneumonia caused by the ventilators. They don't always get the pressures and adjustments right. They can cause long-term injury too! And in untrained hands, I shudder to think. There are a lot of injuries caused by ventilators already. The health-care workers will be tired, maybe "not-so-experienced" helpers, rushed - so many things to go wrong.
I guess I have a particularly traumatic reaction when I hear "ventilatilation" due to my husband having a ventilator induced injury 3 years ago, from which he almost did not make it. I was told he may die, or very likely would be on that machine the rest of his life in a "care unit". Many are in units like that now. It took him about 2 years to basically recover, but he is doing fairly well now. I trust he was saved by Source and a series of serendipities. He had gone in for a hernia surgery, and wound up in the ICU for almost a month. (oxygen cannulas are not ventilators, btw.)
Ventilator-associated lung injury
Hi all,
this is David Icke's newest interview on the YouTube channel London Real - it dovetails with Daniel Liszt's newest posting-
please be well all-
Larry
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gMTZu6_TjU8
Mod note from Bill: already posted several times, but many thanks... your new thread is merged here, and it's well worth posting the interview again.
:thumbsup:
A double post here. First, a serious note. Second, a joke. After this, I'm taking a needed break for the rest of the day. My very best to every single person reading this. :flower:
~~~A doctor who spent nine hours moving critically-ill Covid-19 patients around London has issued a plea to the British public. Anaesthetic registrar Natalie Silvey posted the image of her face – reddened after hours spent wearing personnel protective equipment – to Twitter today.
https://twitter.com/silv24/status/1241447017945223169
Here are two posts from Cynthia McKinney's Twitter; one purported to be from San Diego, CA - and one from Italy.
The human spirit has a way of breaking out past the boundaries.
About the coronavirus testing disaster in the US in brief:
- the U.S. rejected the WHO test and developed its own test around late January, but their own test was faulty
- the FDA waited until February 29 before allowing private companies and academic institutions to make their own tests
- on March 13 the pharmaceutical company Roche got approval to develop an automated test
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/20/211882...-united-statesQuote:
6 things to know about the coronavirus testing disaster in the US
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In the US, the CDC chose not to follow WHO protocol and made its own test, shipping it to states in early February. (The CDC has not made a public statement on why it didn’t follow WHO protocol.) The kit was actually designed to run three tests: two for SARS-CoV-2 and one for other known coronaviruses, which cause many common colds. But laboratories around the country soon reported that the tests didn’t work.
By comparison, German scientists developed the first test for Covid-19 in January in line with WHO protocol, and the WHO shipped 250,000 of these tests to the 60 countries that had accepted them by early February — saving valuable weeks of being able to identify people who’d been infected.
Despite a nationwide shortage, the need for FDA approval kept local, state, private, or academic institutions from developing or producing their own tests. Although in a crisis the FDA can use something called emergency use authorization to allow unapproved medical tests, the agency waited until February 29 before actually doing so.
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The good news is that the FDA is now allowing private companies and academic institutions to make their own tests. The pharmaceutical company Roche got approval to develop an automated test on March 13; prior to that, all of the tests had been hand-done. And as of March 19, 89 public health laboratories and even more private ones are finally able to run tests for SARS-CoV-2.
The CDC told Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI) on March 13 that, nationwide, the US had the capacity to run around 7,000 tests per day; a tracking project run by Scott Gottlieb, a former FDA commissioner, suggests that as of March 18, more than 36,000 Americans can now be tested in a day.
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See also:
Why Did the Trump Administration Reject the WHO Coronavirus Test?
Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humans
Testing in U.S.
Spain is now third behind China and Italy in CV cases. The country has been put on COMPLETE lockdown. BUT...You can go out ten times a day to buy food. You can take the bus, train and metro to work or buy food. You can go to work. You can walk the dog, the neighbour can walk your dog (they had to remove 2000 adverts of people offering out their dogs on one website.)
I go out once a week. The supermarket has plenty of toilet paper, nappies, rice and milk. There is no hoarding but, maybe worse we have not changed our habits.
I think it is time to listen to the professionals.
A UK doctor getting very frustrated that people are not taking the idea of self isolation more seriously
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tQD4B_hmdvo
(Apologize if it is already posted) Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in Treatment of COVID-19 associated pneumonia in clinical studies.
Any good or just a Big Pharma Profiteering?
cheers,
John
Reality Check ... Truth-CHECK: Seasonal FLU "TWICE as Deadly" as Coronavirus?
I've been warning for the past few weeks so just take a look at the numbers from the W.H.O. and in an “apples to apples” comparison, the Coronavirus has HALF the mortality rate of the seasonal flu when it comes to "death to confirmed cases" ratio.
--o-O-o--
Finally some decent reporting (...) imagine we had 1000s reporters like him worldwide!
You almost think MSM is more dangerous than anything else ... on top of that and they want to silence others.
cheers,
John
Dr. Ron Paul: The Coronavirus Hoax:
Yes John :flower:Quote:
Posted by ExomatrixTV
Here: Post #2197
March 19 update,Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
At 21:31 in this really helpful presentation Chris discusses this Breakthrough study and it can be linked to here.
Copy in the library, here.
Video discounts the fact that we have no idea what the fatality rate is or will be because we are in the earliest stages of the pandemic. It's probably a very good idea to follow evidence based opinion coming from qualified epidemiologists, pathologists and science journalists.Quote:
Posted by ExomatrixTV
Chris Martenson knows the science and is in a position to be skeptical of some of the science, judge it as incomplete, unverified, not carefully vetted or not replicated. Pay attention to these people and those working directly with those who have the virus (in hospital settings particularly) Ben Swann is a great political commentator but lacks the credentials to make a sound judgement here.
Same with Ron Paul. It's been a long time since he practised medicine and if he has made up his mind that this is some kind of a hoax he will not expose himself to material that counters his view. You know, "crabby old man" syndrome, right?
These are 2 through 5 plus 6 and 7 of Wendell Potter's initial tweet above.
The absurd, foolish and contradictory reason appears to be directed by the CDC:
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Folks have been asking for what the “explanation” is for this decision. We’ve been told the hospital administrators are concerned patients & visitors would be unduly alarmed & fearful if they saw health care workers wearing protective clothing & masks.
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Hospital physicians tell me this is happening across the state. Nurses worry they could be fired if they wear protective gear, but worry if they don’t they’re putting themselves & patients at risk. It comes as NJ has an explosion in COVID cases, particularly Bergen County. (2/5)
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@GovMurphy, please immediately investigate this, and order a ban in New Jersey on such a dangerous practice. No hospital should threaten doctors and nurses with disciplinary action for wearing masks. This is not complicated. (3/5)
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I've heard other hospitals nationwide are enforcing this policy, too. Who knows how rampant it is? Some internal documents we obtained suggest certain federal restrictions by the CDC may be guiding this decision. (4/5)
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If that's the case, @realdonaldtrump should immediately intervene & prohibit public hospitals from being able to threaten their staff for wearing protective equipment during this crisis, including gloves and masks. This is urgent and common sense. And it will save lives. (5/5)
See what it is like to be tested for Covid-19
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KWpq5zliENc&feature=emb_logo
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Posted by Franny
Ron Paul has a very good point to make here. "Hoax" is probably the wrong word to use. This is not a hoax. This is not the Truman Show. We can all agree. But the way we deal with this crisis will determine what kind of sociopolitical system we find ourselves living under, which is seemingly changing by the hour.Quote:
Posted by ExomatrixTV
I also watch Dr John Campbell (but rely much more on Chris Martensen at Peak Prosperity) - you are right that he is totally mainstream, but he has been critical of the WHO response and I don't think he believes the Chinese numbers, but he does take them on face value (an error of course).
What's most interesting is his complete refusal to join the dots or think about the big picture. He is obviously intelligent and capable of independent thought but he just cannot go there. Like so many people in the mainstream. They are going to be completely lost when things get weirder.