Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit
the first time i seen real fear in my wifes face over what had been taking place on the farm for the last 2 years was just recently and still makes my wife nervous to even talk about.december 22 is when we were followed by what i think was a drone for over 3 hours while we did last min christmas shopping in ottumwa ia. we took back road home to see what would happen and would stop car to see if it would stay or go.....it would hover and pace car. the same thing happend again 3 days later.that time i waited in car while wife went in to walmart to get somthing when again i noticed something over the parking lot hovering.this object to followed us home and even graced us with a short visit over the house.this was the first time my wife asked me not talk about what we had seen. how do i protect my family from this...? there has also been aleast one break in where nothing was stolen.i do travel with camera all the time now.sorry so long.peace to all
Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit
Hi William,
I guess that it's time for you to get acquainted with this thread as well: Must Read: The Matrix Deciphered by Dr Robert Duncan
Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit
Great post Vivek ("Brain Zapping Electronic Mind Control" by Jason Jeffery).
I listened to this the other day, Weidner's been busy lately, and a lot of his interviews are similar...but I can't get enough:
He gets to the archons around the 57th minute, the thing I like about this is one is that he is almost directly asked (if I remember correctly, it's been a few days, I lost the note I wrote myself): are these things truly external from us, or are the created (thought forms)...purely internal. There was something else that struck me a few mins later, but again, I forget what...
Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit
...ok, got a chance to refresh my memory--the exact question at 58 mins is: ...You actually think the archons are something external to us?
His response is that he thinks they definitely are...suggests they are leftover "traces of the annunaki" and goes into gnosticism...
I wondered who the woman mentioned...sounds like the interviewer says something like: Leafy Wyatt...can anyone make that out of know who she is talking about?
And the other thing I thought was real interesting I had forgotten was about an hour and a minute he talks about how the "true history" of Ghengis Khan is that he was going after the archons...their "civiliztion"--towns, cities and such that "goes against the tao".
Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit
Excerpts from -- Gnostic Parallels in the Writings of Carlos Castaneda -- by John Lash.
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They warned that the Archons invade the human psyche, they intrude mentally and psychologically, although they may also confront us physically as well. Their main impact, however, is in our mental syntax, in our paradigms and beliefs, exactly as don Juan says of the flyers.
Don Juan tells Castaneda that the predator’s mind is “a cheap model: economy strength, one size fits all.” This description fits the hive-mentality of the Archons. Sorcerers call this uniform alien mind “the foreign installation, which exists in you and in every other human being.” The foreign installation (italicized by Castaneda) pulls us out of our syntax. It deranges our indigenous abilities to organize the world according to the language proper to our species. The role of correct syntax in the sorcerer’s mastery of intent is one of the central factors in the later teachings of Don Juan. The sorcerer's concern for deviation of syntax, and consequent derouting of intent, parallels the importance of language and correct definition emphasized in Gnostic teaching.
Don Juan makes a number of statements pertinent to strategies against alien intrusion. He says that the sorcerers of ancient times “found out that if they taxed the flyers’ mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, giving to any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind’s foreign origin.” In other words, the realization that another mind can operate in our minds only becomes fully clear and certain when the foreign mind has been exposed and expelled. Only then do we understand how “the real mind that belongs to us, the sum total of our experience, after a lifetime of domination has been rendered shy, insecure and shifty.” The “real mind” of Castaneda can be equated to the nous authenticos of the Gnostics. The main effect of the flyers upon our mind is seen in mental conditioning, brainwashing. This is also the main effect of Archontic intrusion.
Source: http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique...a/CCgnosis.php
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Excerpts from an interview with Credo Mutwa on alien abduction and reptilians.
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These so-called gods, who were like human beings, but very tall, with a long tail, and with terrible burning eyes, some of them had two eyes-yellow, bright eyes-some had three eyes, the red, round eye being in the center of their forehead. These creatures then took away the great powers that human beings had: the power of speaking through the mind only, the power of moving objects with their mind only, the power of seeing into the future and into their past, and the power to travel, spiritually, to different worlds.
All of these great powers the Chitauli took away from human beings and they gave human beings a new power, now, the power of speech. But, human beings found, to their horror, that the power of speech divided human beings, instead of uniting them, because the Chitauli cunningly created different languages, and they caused a great quarrel between people.
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Before the coming of the Chitauli, before the coming of the Imbulu creatures, human beings were spiritually one. But when the Chitauli came, human beings became divided, both spiritually as well as by language.
Source: http://www.metatech.org/credo_mutwa.html
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Excerpts from -- The Electronic Revolution -- by William Burroughs.
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In the beginning was the word and the word was god and has remained one of the mysteries ever since. The word was God and the word was flesh we are told. In the beginning of what exactly was this beginning word? In the beginning of WRITTEN history.
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It is doubtful if the spoke word would have ever evolved beyond the animal stage without the written word. The written word ist inferential in HUMAN speech. It would not occur to our wise old rat to assemble the young rats and pass his knowledge along in an aural tradition BECAUSE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF TIME BINDING COULD NOT OCCUR WITHOUT THE WRITTEN WORD. The written word is of course a symbol for something and in the case of hieroglyphic language writing like Egyptian it may be a symbol for itself that is a picture of what it represents. This is not true of an alphabet language like English. The word leg has no pictorial resemblance to a leg. It refers to the SPOKEN word leg. so we may forget that a written word IS AN IMAGE and that written words are images in sequence that is to say MOVING PICTURES. So any hieroglyphic sequence gives us an immediate working defini- tion for spoken words. Spoken words are verbal units that refer to this pictorial sequence. And what then is the written word? My basis theory is that the written word was literally a virus that made spoken word possible. The word has not been recognized as a virus because it has achieved a state of stable symbiosis with the host.
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I quote from MECHANISMS OF VIRUS INFECTION edited by Mr. Wilson Smith, a scientist who really thinks about his subject instead of merely correlating data. He thinks, that is, about the ultimate intentions of the virus organism. In an article entitled VIRUS ADAPTIBILITY AND HOST RESISTANCE by G. Belyavin, speculations as to the biologic goal of the virus species are enlarged ... ‘Viruses are obligatory cellular parasites and are thus wholly dependant upon the integrity of the cellular systems they parasitize for their survival in an active state. It is something of a paradox that many viruses ultimately destroy the cells in which they are living...”
And I may add the environment necessary for any cellular structure they could parasitize to survive. Is the virus then simply a time bomb left on this planet to be activated by remote control? An extermination program in fact? In its path from full virulence to its ultimate goal of symbiosis will any human creature survive? Is the white race, which would seem to be more under virus control than the black yellow and brown races, giving any indication of workable symbiosis?
‘Taking the virus eye view, the ideal situation would appear to be one in which the virus replicates in cells without in any way disturbing their normal metabolism.’
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‘It is worth noting that if a virus were to attain a state of wholly benign equilib- rium with its host cell it is unlikely that its presence would be readily detected OR THAT IT WOULD NECESSARILY BE RECOGNIZED AS A VIRUS. I suggest that the word is just such a virus. Doktor Kurt Unruh von Steinplatz has put forth an interesting theory as to the origins and history of this word virus. He postulates that the word was a virus of what he calls BIOLOGIC MUTATION effecting the biologic change in its host which was then genetically conveyed.
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In the Electronic Revolution, I advance the theory that a virus IS a very small unit of word and image. I have suggested now such units can be biologically activated to act as communicable virus strains.
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Is a virus perhaps simply very small units of sound and image? Remember the only image a virus has is the image and sound track it can impose on you.
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“A virus is characterised and limited by obligate cellular parasitism. All viruses must parasite living cells for their replication. For all viruses the infection cycle comprises entry into the host, intracellular replication, and escape from the body of the host to initiate a new cycle in a fresh host.” I am quoting here from MECHANISMS OF VIRUS INFECTION edited by Dr. Wilson Smith. In its wild state the virus has not proved to be a very adaptable organism. Some viruses have burned themselves have burned out since they were 100 per cent fatal and there were no reservoirs. Each strain of virus is rigidly programed for certain attack on certain tissues. If the attack fails, the virus does not gain a new host.
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Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology, says that certain words and word com- binations can produces serious illnesses and mental disturbances. I can claim some skill in the scrivener’s trade, but I cannot guarantee to write a passage that will make someone physically ill. If Mr. Hubbard’s claim is justified, this is certainly a matter for further research, and we can easily find out experimentally whether his claim is justified or not. Mr. Hubbard bases the power he attributes to words on his theory of engrams. An engram is defined as word, sound, [or] image recorded by the subject in a period of pain and unconsciousness.
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I have frequently spoken of word and image as viruses or as acting as viruses, and this is not an allegorical comparison. It will be seen that the falsifications of syl- labic western languages are in point of fact actual virus mechanisms. The IS of identity the purpose of a virus is to SURVIVE. To survive at any expense to the host invaded. To be an animal, to be a body. To be an animal body that the virus can invade. To be animals, to be bodies. To be more animal bodies, so that the virus can move from one body to another. To stay present as an animal body, to stay absent as antibody or resistance to the body invasion.
The categorical THE is also a virus mechanism, locking you in THE virus universe. EITHER/OR is another virus formula. It is always you OR the virus. EITHER/OR. This is in point of fact the conflict formula which is seen to be archetypical virus mechanism.
Source: http://mindingthegaps.pbworks.com/f/...Revolution.pdf
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Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit
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Amzer Zo
Because there is the possibility (based on what I have read so far in this book) that all my experiences have been simply imaginings from my own mind and that these imaginings have been, in part (and perhaps in large part) been placed in my mind by fellow human beings who chose me as a target of their experiments or, perhaps, I have simply been more "open" to random energy directed signals from lovely fellow human beings, then it is very hard to conclude what may have been real, what may have been influences from "aliens," what my have been influences from "demons," etc. that I have no foundation any longer to which I can form a view point from and thus, it appears, I am not going to be any help to anyone regarding these subjects anymore.
Everything - human sacrifice, SSPs, The bad guys according to LRH, reptilians/Draconians/evil Pleiadians/etc., "illuminati", all things conspiratorial, all my synchronicity experiences, and on and on - all have no significance anymore.
Looks like I am left with one thing and one thing only to do now...
just live
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justoneman
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Because there is the possibility (based on what I have read so far in this book) that all my experiences have been simply imaginings from my own mind and that these imaginings have been, in part (and perhaps in large part) been placed in my mind by fellow human beings who chose me as a target of their experiments or, perhaps, I have simply been more "open" to random energy directed signals from lovely fellow human beings, then it is very hard to conclude what may have been real, what may have been influences from "aliens," what my have been influences from "demons," etc. that I have no foundation any longer to which I can form a view point from and thus, it appears, I am not going to be any help to anyone regarding these subjects anymore.
Everything - human sacrifice, SSPs, The bad guys according to LRH, reptilians/Draconians/evil Pleiadians/etc., "illuminati", all things conspiratorial, all my synchronicity experiences, and on and on - all have no significance anymore.
Looks like I am left with one thing and one thing only to do now...
just live
Yep!
That's about right!
When one reduces life to its premises everything becomes much simpler:
1) Everything is alive;
2) the only impetus of anything alive is "SURVIVE !"
Now, if you go back to that R6 lecture, everything that currently befalls this planet is inherently contained in it. I let you chew on that one and find that for yourself.
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Amzer Zo
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justoneman
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Because there is the possibility (based on what I have read so far in this book) that all my experiences have been simply imaginings from my own mind and that these imaginings have been, in part (and perhaps in large part) been placed in my mind by fellow human beings who chose me as a target of their experiments or, perhaps, I have simply been more "open" to random energy directed signals from lovely fellow human beings, then it is very hard to conclude what may have been real, what may have been influences from "aliens," what my have been influences from "demons," etc. that I have no foundation any longer to which I can form a view point from and thus, it appears, I am not going to be any help to anyone regarding these subjects anymore.
Everything - human sacrifice, SSPs, The bad guys according to LRH, reptilians/Draconians/evil Pleiadians/etc., "illuminati", all things conspiratorial, all my synchronicity experiences, and on and on - all have no significance anymore.
Looks like I am left with one thing and one thing only to do now...
just live
Yep!
That's about right!
When one reduces life to its premises everything becomes much simpler:
1) Everything is alive;
2) the only impetus of anything alive is "
SURVIVE !"
Now, if you go back to that R6 lecture, everything that currently befalls this planet is inherently contained in it. I let you chew on that one and find that for yourself.
I am ok with the R6 lecture and premise as it has to start somewhere - but this then points one to the implant prior to R6 as mentioned by Truman Cash - the "universal implant" (meaning the implant that kick started this particular universe). Is it possible by going back to that, the R6 seems like an illusion?
Where does real start and illusion end?
Or, where does illusion start and real end?
It just seems everything boils down to the now moment and what you (meaning me, you, any of us) think, speak/write and do.
Can't do nothing about the past.
Can only do in the now which sets the stage for "the future."
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Amzer Zo
1) Everything is alive;
2) the only impetus of anything alive is "SURVIVE !"
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Isolating this specific comment (I can "speak" and thus am only speaking for myself), anyone who knows me, is with me, thus observes me, knows I am the last one to be concerned about "surviving."
That guy already died, resurrected and ascended.
Now, my physical body has other ideas it seems, but that isn't "me."
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thank you.thats about where i am at..aliens....goverment...alien with goverment or angels or demons..how do i chose.when all i want is the truth.the book is compelling and i could find many correlations to our situation here at home but i also found many similar things in the book the watchers and about 10 other well known abduction books.i just dont know. i feel like im a cat chasing its own tail.
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Early on in said lovely book -
http://thoughtlessness23.blogspot.be/
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If there was a virtual reality machine that seemed real in every way and you could determine what your perfect life would be in advance, would you agree to live in it for the remainder of your physical existence assuming your memory could be erased that you chose to do it? Your answer is quite revealing about the base motives that drive your everyday living. If you answer, “No. It isn’t real. My life would be meaningless.” Then you are the type of person who is driven through creating meaning in your life and define your value through your relationships with other people. If you answer, “Yes. Of course. Who wouldn’t want a perfect life?” Then you are a pleasure seeker and define the reason for existence is to optimize your quantitative happiness through your chronological lifespan.
Good test - I chose (and continue to choose) the former. And yet the big rub is that 99.999% of those relationships are with those who chose the blue pill.
Lots of fun, yes?
Only a few, like you, Amzer Zo a few of our friends here have actually chosen to swallow in whole that red pill.
So now what do we do?
I know no other choice but to continue agreeing to be held hostage by this trap, my physical body, and make the best of it... but concerns of "survival" died long ago... died with that guy I was 14.5 months back when hanging out that window, dies during the three month depression that ensued (the depression caused because I could not even "off" myself), the realization a "third party" had somehow (I can only accept I allowed it...) taken charge of my mind... and now I am faced with the dilemma it may only be fellow human beings with toys.
I just laugh at it all now... what else can one do?
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sorry i posted in wrong thread...peace.
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Amzer Zo
Chester!
Start chewing!
You know that this leaves one with one and only one choice - leave and never return, if you can.
If one then makes this choice, the next dilemma is... when.
Pretty sad it seems.
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[QUOTE=justoneman;643447]Early on in said lovely book -
http://thoughtlessness23.blogspot.be/
Quote:
If there was a virtual reality machine that seemed real in every way and you could determine what your perfect life would be in advance, would you agree to live in it for the remainder of your physical existence assuming your memory could be erased that you chose to do it? Your answer is quite revealing about the base motives that drive your everydameaning in your life and define your value through your relationships with other people. If you answer, “Yes. Of course. Who wouldn’t want a perfect life?” Then you are a pleasure seeker and define the reason for existence is to optimize your quantitative happiness through your chronological lifespan.
Good test - I chose (and continue to choose) the former. And yet the big rub is that 99.999% of those relationships are with those who chose the blue pill.
Lots of fun, yes?
Only a few, like you, Amzer Zo a few of our friends here have actually chosen to swallow in whole that red pill.
So now what do we do?
I know no other choice but to continue agreeing to be held hostage
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justoneman
Early on in said lovely book -
http://thoughtlessness23.blogspot.be/
Quote:
If there was a virtual reality machine that seemed real in every way and you could determine what your perfect life would be in advance, would you agree to live in it for the remainder of your physical existence assuming your memory could be erased that you chose to do it? Your answer is quite revealing about the base motives that drive your everyday living. If you answer, “No. It isn’t real. My life would be meaningless.” Then you are the type of person who is driven through creating meaning in your life and define your value through your relationships with other people. If you answer, “Yes. Of course. Who wouldn’t want a perfect life?” Then you are a pleasure seeker and define the reason for existence is to optimize your quantitative happiness through your chronological lifespan.
Good test - I chose (and continue to choose) the former. And yet the big rub is that 99.999% of those relationships are with those who chose the blue pill.
Lots of fun, yes?
Only a few, like you, Amzer Zo a few of our friends here have actually chosen to swallow in whole that red pill.
So now what do we do?
I know no other choice but to continue agreeing to be held hostage by this trap, my physical body, and make the best of it... but concerns of "survival" died long ago... died with that guy I was 14.5 months back when hanging out that window, dies during the three month depression that ensued (the depression caused because I could not even "off" myself), the realization a "third party" had somehow (I can only accept I allowed it...) taken charge of my mind... and now I am faced with the dilemma it may only be fellow human beings with toys.
I just laugh at it all now... what else can one do?
seems if i had a choice...both pills.
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justoneman
Early on in said lovely book -
http://thoughtlessness23.blogspot.be/
Quote:
If there was a virtual reality machine that seemed real in every way and you could determine what your perfect life would be in advance, would you agree to live in it for the remainder of your physical existence assuming your memory could be erased that you chose to do it? Your answer is quite revealing about the base motives that drive your everyday living. If you answer, “No. It isn’t real. My life would be meaningless.” Then you are the type of person who is driven through creating meaning in your life and define your value through your relationships with other people. If you answer, “Yes. Of course. Who wouldn’t want a perfect life?” Then you are a pleasure seeker and define the reason for existence is to optimize your quantitative happiness through your chronological lifespan.
Good test - I chose (and continue to choose) the former. And yet the big rub is that 99.999% of those relationships are with those who chose the blue pill.
Lots of fun, yes?
Only a few, like you, Amzer Zo a few of our friends here have actually chosen to swallow in whole that red pill.
So now what do we do?
I know no other choice but to continue agreeing to be held hostage by this trap, my physical body, and make the best of it... but concerns of "survival" died long ago... died with that guy I was 14.5 months back when hanging out that window, dies during the three month depression that ensued (the depression caused because I could not even "off" myself), the realization a "third party" had somehow (I can only accept I allowed it...) taken charge of my mind... and now I am faced with the dilemma it may only be fellow human beings with toys.
I just laugh at it all now... what else can one do?
seems if i had a choice...both pills.
That is actually my own choice, though not popular here on Avalon. Tim Freke calls it "paralogical" thinking.
Red and Blue makes Purple, yes? And that's the color won by "royalty" which Alex Collier states all humans happen to be...
What do you do when stuck in a body? Seems Amzer Zo hints (if I read him correctly) do all you can to end "the mistake" and if you can't, do all you can to never return to the mistake.
But I have misunderstood Amzer Zo many times before so maybe I have done so again.
It seems oddly very important to me that I understand what Amzer Zo is attempting to get "us" (or maybe me alone regarding the last 1/2 dozen posts) to understand.
I guess what works best for me is direct, human to human communication, best in the flesh but at least in voice.
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After taking Amzer Zo's advice and "chewing on it" for awhile... I came to this -
Thoughts that came to me “after chewing” on it all.
What is “life” when in the process of living, your physical body dies?
From the point of view that “you” are “a body” (in this case, I am speaking of a physical body), life is a lie.
If you are “something” that occupies a body that experiences “life,” if even .00001% of your thought comes from the point of view where you put your physical body above actual principles... where you put your physical body first, which puts what is right second, then for those moments, you are accepting a lie.
Now because most of us do not want to believe we have settled for a lie, we use the mind to “justify” every single compromise we make when we put the physical body first.
Because most of us in the physical realm accept what we believe are the requirements of our physical bodies for these bodies to continue to “exist” we are accepting a lie. There is no way out of the truth of this statement. I do this, most of us do this.
Now what level of sanity could possibly ever include acceptance of a lie?
I can’t think of any. Yet at my core, I believe I am sane. Is this just my core, hoping to be sovereign, spirit breaking through? If this is the case, then it has been (at least for me and based on what observer calls “the objective evidence”) that somewhere along the line of the journey of who/what I actually am, I allowed myself or chose to accept the imprisonment within a realm and within a container which create the dynamic which is a lie.
I am unsure if my original error was that “i” created this dynamic or if “someone else” created it and I chose to enter into it or if “someone else” created it and I was duped into falling into it or if “someone else” created it and I was somehow captured and then placed into it.
The fact is, “i” am in it.
So what are the choices?
One of the choices: Intentionally exiting this body. But I would be risking being returned again back into some “body” if I had not achieved some level of sovereignty at my core level of being (if there be one).
Another choice: Figure out how to truly free “me” so that I would be able to choose after the death of my body whether or not I want to return to this dynamic. Clearly the various methods mentioned in this thread seem to be the best hopes of reaching this level of being – Steve Richards methods, engram relief processes mentioned by Amzer Zo (the “old” Scientology auditing process) and methods mentioned by Truman Cash (and written up in a document he gives freely to anyone who asks for it), Ho'oponopono, etc.
But the major point I am making is that no matter how I try and wiggle out of this, I cannot find any escape from what appears to me to be – the truth.
To chew is to be chewed.
Did I “get it” Amzer Zo?
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Hi Chester...
You sure chewed up what's in your mind and its pictures pretty good... but I didn't see any of that in that lecture... you know... the DATA themselves...
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Hi Chester...
You sure chewed up what's in your mind and its pictures pretty good... but I didn't see any of that in that lecture... you know... the DATA themselves...
... and now, I have truly transformed. But what about the rest of "us"?